Latest / Inside Country with Wayne D / How Kelsea Ballerini Landed The Voice Gig, You Won't Believe It
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- 0:00It's gonna be like a therapy session. I hope you're ready. Oh that's
- 0:02my love language. Are you kidding me? It's Wayne d in studio with
- 0:07the lovely and talented Miss Kelsey Ballerini. How are you so good? I'm
- 0:11happy to be here. Listen your life. It feels like you kind of
- 0:14were in like chill mode. You put out some music and like, all
- 0:17of a sudden, you lit your world on fire because the Voice, some
- 0:21coffee, some new music, all the things. Why why all at the
- 0:25same time. Yeah, well, I don't you know, it's interesting that
- 0:29it seems like I've been chill. I feel like I have not been chill
- 0:31at all. But I guess when everything gets announced at once, it seems
- 0:36like. But you know, I've been working on this record NonStop since like
- 0:40last year, since like I guess November, no before that even, and
- 0:48you know, like the Voice announced like we've had that plan for a couple
- 0:50of months. So yeah, I guess it seems like a lot, but
- 0:54it's been it's been a crazy few months. Let's let's start with a Voice,
- 0:57because you got some new music we're going to hit on in a second
- 0:59hit too. Have you been approached before this to be a part of whether
- 1:03it's Idle or the voice or a similar I've I've done some stuff with the
- 1:07voice. I was like, kind of. They did this thing called the
- 1:11comebackstage like six years ago, I think, and I was the fifth coach,
- 1:15so I did that, and then I was Kelly's advisor, and then
- 1:17Kelly got six so I filled in for her in her actual seat a couple
- 1:19of years ago. And then when Blake left the show, all the producers
- 1:26came to town and they were having dinner. They're having meetings with several country
- 1:30artists. That's all I knew, and I was one of them. And
- 1:33you'll be so proud of me. I you know, I knew the producers
- 1:36from from the work on the show. And at the end of dinner,
- 1:38I had the audacity to lean across the table and I just said, Hey,
- 1:44I really want this, and I promise you, like I know that
- 1:47I'm newer, I know that you're probably talking to legends. I can do
- 1:51this, I can do this, and I will I will do it well,
- 1:53I promise, and I really I want you to know that I really
- 1:55want this. And as soon as I said, I was like, go
- 1:57on Kelsey. But I've I'm so proud of myself for doing that and putting
- 2:00myself out there like that, and the timing just worked out really really well
- 2:05to be able to do welcome that and tour NonStop last year and then this
- 2:08year come up for air and do that. So how does it? And
- 2:13I'm going to just say this as loose as possible, how do you have
- 2:16the balls to say that? How do you? Cause? I mean that's
- 2:19a totally obviously you got the personality, You've done TV stuff before, You've
- 2:23performed in front of thousands of people, but like this is this is way
- 2:25different, It is way different. I just chase the things that scare you.
- 2:30I just I'm in this place in my life and I don't know if
- 2:34it's turning thirty or whatever, but I just I want to do things that
- 2:38challenge me and things that scare me. And being in that chair on a
- 2:43massive TV show is terrifying. I'd be lying to say that it's not,
- 2:46but it's something that I know will challenge me in a really good way as
- 2:50an artist. And I think I've learned a lot the last ten years.
- 2:54I'm also still actively learning so much my bucket list is still stacked. There's
- 2:59a lot I want to do, So I think it'd be really cool to
- 3:00be, you know, like the baby coach and just figure it out with
- 3:07them. I will say you probably, as this gets clipped and shared on
- 3:10our socials and people will hear the interview on the radio, you probably just
- 3:15inspired a lot of tattoos saying chase the things. That's scary true, but
- 3:19it's so true, you know, And like the worst thing that can happen
- 3:22is you fail and then you move on to something else, and that's okay.
- 3:25But like making music is always going to be the thing that I protect
- 3:30the most and I put the most love and intention into. But the ability
- 3:37to ask yourself what else is so liberating. So I'm gonna ask you to
- 3:42be super honest. Yeah, therapy, let's go. And that is for
- 3:46anybody that is tuning into the channel that is your life right now. Looks
- 3:51awesome, right, this is happening, This is happening career wise. What's
- 3:54the time you fell on your face and you had to look at me and
- 3:57be like, we're gonna get our ish together and we're going to keep going.
- 4:00I mean, the putting out subject to change, like was right when
- 4:05I was getting divorced, and I didn't get to hide. I mean I
- 4:11like, I put that album out and got my butt on stage every night,
- 4:15and it was hard, really really hard, and you saw it,
- 4:18like I broke down every other night, and I just challenged myself to not
- 4:23be embarrassed and to let myself be human and know that for whatever reason,
- 4:28that was how that journey was supposed to go. But that was hard.
- 4:31That was really hard without going like to behind behind the curtain. Why was
- 4:38it important for you to be transparent in the life changes you were going through,
- 4:45because you could have just stayed home and been like, I know,
- 4:46I'm going to wait till the water. Yeah. I think for me,
- 4:54just the decision to put out that record, like making the record and writing
- 4:58about it, I would have done whether I was like a semi successful artist
- 5:03or not, like that's just how I deal with my life. But I
- 5:06think putting it out, you hear a lot of songs about breakups and divorce
- 5:12and whatever that are like you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep your car
- 5:15and it's all your fault and burn your stuff. And I listened to those
- 5:19songs a lot, but I think there's a lot more nuance to it sometimes
- 5:24and being able to write the record really help me and I just for me,
- 5:30I really often think about what do I need to hear and if I
- 5:34need to hear it, then maybe someone else does. And that's why I
- 5:38make music. So that's why I put it out with that was it was
- 5:45there ever a point where You're like, maybe I'm being too vulnerable And the
- 5:46second part of that question, the second part of that question is at any
- 5:53point did you sit back and go, this is helping me more than I
- 5:56realized. Yeah. I think when I first out rolling up the welcome matt
- 6:01and immediately like we got SNL and like all that, and I was like,
- 6:05oh my god, like this is already becoming way different than I had
- 6:10anticipated. And at first I kind of like rejected the idea of making these
- 6:16songs a big part of my life and my my set on tour and stuff.
- 6:21But then as soon as I did, those are the songs that I
- 6:24looked forward to singing the most because it was like the air in the room
- 6:28change and like everyone put their shields down and stopped worrying about like you know,
- 6:31if they looked cute in their selfies, and we all just leveled with
- 6:34each other and we were singing about a human experience that is a life change
- 6:39or a breakup or you know, whatever version of that they related to.
- 6:44From the first single we ever heard from you to the most recent project,
- 6:46obviously, life is completely different. Yeah. So if we hopped in a
- 6:51time machine you me tay, it would probably be like a forward station.
- 6:57I don't want to go back with wood panels. I's not go back.
- 6:59I don't want to go back. Listen, We're going to the beginning.
- 7:02What would Kelsey today look at Kelsey then and be like that's cute. But
- 7:09I wouldn't. I wouldn't tell myself a thing, you know, like have
- 7:14I done everything perfect? No? God, No, in life or career.
- 7:19No. But like I like my journey. I'm really I'm proud of
- 7:25what's happened in the last ten years. And I'm proud of like the big
- 7:29number ones, and I'm proud of the songs that just didn't work. I'm
- 7:31proud of like the Growing Pains. I'm proud of being a woman on an
- 7:35independent label and breaking records. I'm proud of, Like I'm proud of all
- 7:41the things and even the things that didn't work how I thought they were supposed
- 7:45to, they were supposed to work exactly how they did. And it feels
- 7:47like you brought up your record label. It feels like they almost lifted you
- 7:53up to help you get started. Yes, and then you have flown Since
- 7:57Why is that important for you? Because at this point in your career you
- 8:00can kind of pick where you go, right, why is this journey the
- 8:03important one? Well? I just I don't know. I think being able
- 8:09to feel supported, whether it's you know, like your label, your team,
- 8:15your friends, just being with people that see you and know you and
- 8:20trust you, I think is really valuable. And I have so many friends
- 8:24that are in different situations that have a different experience with their labels and their
- 8:31teams. And for me, they trust me to make music. And you
- 8:37know, I finished the record the last two days in the studio and Gordon,
- 8:41the president CEO, came down and he hadn't even heard some of the
- 8:43songs yet, but he trusted me to just make the record that I was
- 8:46going to make. And I know that that is not everyone's experience, and
- 8:50that really matters to me. To be able to have that artistic freedom from
- 8:54the beginning. Country music is crazy how it's it went through like the pop
- 9:01phase or the broke country phase or whatever, and then it feels like country
- 9:05kind of slowed down and now it's in this massive research it's and you're part
- 9:09of the strongest class of female artists in country music in I mean maybe as
- 9:13long as I've been alive, which we're not talking about this is your therapy
- 9:16sessions, Slash. What does it mean to you to be a part of
- 9:20this massively strong class of female artists. Oh, it's awesome. I mean
- 9:26I wouldn't know what it looks like to be a woman in country if I
- 9:30didn't have women on the radio growing up, you know, Shanaia, Tricia
- 9:33Faith why noa Like I only knew that I could do this because of them.
- 9:39And so I think it's always important in every genre, in every career
- 9:46field to have those people in place, those women in place, so people
- 9:50know that that is an option for them. And and yeah, I think
- 9:54you know iron, I always say this word wrong. Iron, Iron sharpens
- 10:00iron, iron sharpens iron. And I just think there's a lot of really
- 10:05really strong, powerful, smart, really smart women in our in our field
- 10:11right now, and it's it's cool to be a part of it. Do
- 10:13you stand back and let yourself realize that iron iron that you say iron wrong?
- 10:18No, I'm kidding. Do you ever stand back and let yourself realize
- 10:22that you were a little girl in a car singing Atricious song and now there's
- 10:26a little girl in a car singing in Kelsey song. When I think about
- 10:30that, I want to start solving. But I do think about it.
- 10:31We'll move on country music as it has expanded. Being an artist is fantastic,
- 10:39but there's so many artists that get an opportunity to become a brand,
- 10:43which is a very toxic words. That's a story for another time. But
- 10:48literally, Tay and I I got to host your Ballerini brunch, which we'll
- 10:52get to in a second here a couple of days ago, and and Tay
- 10:56and I got to be there and it was awesome. But literally as soon
- 10:58as I got home that now, I turned the TV on and you were
- 11:01literally the first thing I saw was your face in a hair commercial. Yeah,
- 11:05which, like I was mildly offended. But at what point where you're
- 11:11like, hey, I can do more than just the music kind of like
- 11:16what I was saying earlier, I really the people that I look up to
- 11:20are women that ask themselves what else? You know? Whether it's Riba who
- 11:26is obviously a country music icon, but she also did acting. You know,
- 11:31she has a clothing brand, Reese Witherspoon, she's an actress, but
- 11:35then she also started a company and you know, produces things. I think
- 11:39there's so much liberation and being able to say, like what else can I
- 11:43do? Like how how how far can I ride this wave? How do
- 11:48you select what to do and what not to do? And I asked that
- 11:52because we see what you're a part of, but I can only imagine the
- 11:56emails and the dms and the texts, and you know that you hear in
- 12:00your team heres, how do you how do you know what to pick and
- 12:03timing? Obviously I used to overdo it. I think I just used to
- 12:07say yes to everything because I was It's hard not to operate from a place
- 12:11of scarcity as an artist, because you're like, when is this gonna be
- 12:13done? And then what you know? And so I think over the last
- 12:18few years, I've really challenged myself to to not operate from that place and
- 12:22and say yes to things that inspire me, not because I think that it's
- 12:26going to make things bigger or flashier, but like, does this feel like
- 12:28the right synergy? Does this feel like the right collaboration? And just do
- 12:33things from that place because that also just feels more fulfilling. And if it
- 12:37doesn't work, at least it's a hill I can die on. The original
- 12:39Donut Shop coffee just came out with the Ballerini blend. Yeah it's delicious,
- 12:45which, by the way, I was going to say this that day you
- 12:48were you missed out on an opportunity. We did a Ballerini brunch, but
- 12:52if your man came out with his own eggs, we could do Ballerini brunch
- 12:56with Stokes Yolks. I'm just saying it's an opportunity that y'all could run.
- 13:00Stokes Yolkes is crazy saying that goes. I feel like that's a spot you
- 13:03could open in downtown Franklin right now, Stokes Yolks holler at me, all
- 13:07right, I'm gonna pitch that, but but tell me how the coffee.
- 13:13Because artists have tequila's, whiskey's wines. Yeah, this is very PG.
- 13:18No, it's I love coffee and honestly, like it's it's one of those
- 13:22things that whether I'm home or on the tour bus or in a hotel,
- 13:24it's like one of those little simple consistencies in my life. It makes me
- 13:28happy. And so I was like it was an easy partnership. And then
- 13:31they were like, do you want do you want your own flavor? I
- 13:35was like, say, say less so cool. You talked about career bucket
- 13:39list and there's so many more things. What things have popped up that you
- 13:43didn't realize were like, Hell yeah, I think getting into work with heroes,
- 13:48whether it be Shania or Kenny, that's that's a huge one for me
- 13:50where I'm like little me would be forreaking out. And I think that's been
- 13:54probably one of the highlights of my my career that has been more fulfilling than
- 13:58I thought it could be. And then yeah, like like doing the Voice,
- 14:03that's huge and a huge bucket list. And I'm making my fifth record
- 14:09right now, Like a lot of people don't get to make five records,
- 14:11And it's not lost on me, and I know I'm very lucky to be
- 14:16in that position to be able to, you know, put fourteen songs out
- 14:20again into the world. So I'm very I'm like a helicopter mom with this
- 14:26album. I really am. That's but that's a good thing and a lot
- 14:30of people don't get to do that right. They have to get approved from
- 14:33twenty different places, and yeah, you're able to run with it. The
- 14:35first song we're getting off there is with Noah Khan. How does that happen?
- 14:39Because country music fans are still kind of getting introduced to Noah Khan,
- 14:43you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. I mean, I feel like,
- 14:46not only do genre lines blend so much lately, but his record six Season,
- 14:52I mean, it's not it's country adjacent, you know, it's all
- 14:54about the storytelling. The instrumentation is really organic, and I'm a huge fan.
- 15:03I fangirled him when I met him at the Grammys and he was like,
- 15:07Hey, how long ago did you put out Peter Pan And I was
- 15:09like, I was like, I think it was like eight years ago,
- 15:13and he was like, I remember hearing that song and hearing that hook and
- 15:16being like, god, I wish I would have written that. I was
- 15:18so impressed with that that hook, so immediately it was just like songwriter synergy.
- 15:24He's just the nicest dude, and so we all hung out at Grammy's
- 15:28and then I had this song Cowboys Cried too. And I loved being able
- 15:33as a woman to write a song kind of about toxic masculinity and my perspective
- 15:39on it and honor the men in my life that are emotional, Like I
- 15:43think it's so beautiful whenever you feel safe enough to cry in front of someone
- 15:50or talk about your past or your childhood or whatever. I think it's just
- 15:54I don't know, We're in a world where a lot of people feel like
- 15:58they have to have it together all the time, and so I wanted to
- 16:00write a song to honor those men in my life. And Noah, I
- 16:03just thought the way that he wrote his album, he's so down to go
- 16:07there, And so I sent it to him and he wrote his verse and
- 16:11it just made the song a million times better. It is. It is
- 16:15awesome too, because you hear a collaboration. Some collaborations are like, oh
- 16:18that works, you know, yeah, but it literally feels like this was
- 16:22born this way. I agree, No, I agree, and I you
- 16:25know, I've gotten to do a lot of different collabs, and each one
- 16:26kind of has a different feeling and sometimes, like I was saying earlier,
- 16:30sometimes you kind of do it for the wrong reasons. You're like, oh,
- 16:33they have a lot of streams, and I just don't want to operate
- 16:36from that place ever. And this song, well, I was gonna have
- 16:41no collabs on the album. I really just wanted it to be a storyteller
- 16:44album. And and then he added more story to it. And there is
- 16:48just such a beautiful artistic friendship and synergy there, and I'm really grateful he's
- 16:53on it. The first song we get off a new album is I always
- 16:57call it the handshake, right, this is you introducing the latest chapter of
- 17:03your life career? What does this say for fans? And first, what
- 17:08does it say for fans that this is the first song? And two what
- 17:11is it safe for where you're at in life and your career that this is
- 17:15the introduction to our next chapter? I say our because we helped write it.
- 17:22It really took me a minute to start writing again after Welcome Back,
- 17:25cause I was like, I don't I don't know how to follow that up.
- 17:30And this album is so important this stage in my career, like I
- 17:37want it to be just the best thing I've ever done. And it freaked
- 17:41me out. I was like, you know, welcome, Matt was it
- 17:45was so specific about such a specific thing in my life, and obviously I'm
- 17:48not in that chapter anymore. So I was like, how do I take
- 17:51that amount of vulnerability and honesty and move it into a happier season? And
- 17:56it freaked me out. But then I just kept that level of honesty and
- 18:03tackling things that mayfield taboo, are like weird to talk about or whatever.
- 18:07And Cowboys was one of the first songs we wrote for the whole record,
- 18:11and so you were like, this is Yeah, it feels like a perfect
- 18:14segue and to let people know that, like the honesty is not going anywhere,
- 18:18and you know, I put put shit in a song from growing up
- 18:26your mother is very upset with Well, you know, sorry, Kelsey,
- 18:33We know how busy you are. Thanks for taking the time out and we
- 18:34can't wait to see the boys. Thank you, Sam. Yeah,