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Dr. McCullough: The Vax has Killed 500k-600k Americans, and It’ll Get Much Worse · Man in America Podcast

• 1:33
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So maybe you've seen the news that there's a new variant spreading, and it's gonna get really bad, and they're gonna have to lock us down. And thankfully, thankfully, president Biden has now he's talked about it publicly that he's rolling out a new vaccine. Right?
• 1:53
  So the new vaccine is not gonna give you myocarditis and strokes, and, you know, you're not gonna be dying in your sleep or dying as you're running across the football field, and it's just gonna save the world. Thank goodness that we live in a country with such a fearless leader that is protecting us from these frightening viruses. So that's all. That's all folks. That's the show that I was gonna interview Peter McCullough today and talk about the reality of this, but we're saved.
• 2:20
  So, gotta have a little humor here, right? So anyway, so joining us today to talk about these new vaccines, and talk about the real damage that's being done by the current vaccines where, you know, Doctor. Peter McCullough, who's my guest, he's actually saying that he's seeing in his calculations between five and six hundred thousand deaths in America from the vaccines. Also, we're gonna be talking about this new round of lockdowns and the new variants and all this stuff. So it's gonna be a great interview.
• 2:50
  I'm also going to be asking him about his opinion about the whole idea that there are no viruses because I've had some guests on here that have made that, made that statement and they've come to the table with, you know, a lot of evidence showing that the viruses have been isolated. And so, you know, I'm going to ask them, you know, just just say, Look, what's your perspective on this? I'm just the interviewer and I want to get a rounded amount of knowledge for you, the audience that represents different perspectives on these issues. So, folks, I hope you enjoy this interview with Doctor. Peter McCullough.
• 3:20
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• 3:45
  So it helps me to bypass some of the censorship that I met with because of interviews like this. Alright, folks, enjoy the show. Doctor. Mercola, it is such an honor and really a joy to have you back on the show. Thank you for being here.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: It's great to be here. You're doing such great work, Seth. And let's bring in the truth today.
• 4:05
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, that's what I'm all about. So, there's a lot to be going over. But I want to start with something that just is kind of in the news cycle right now. And I have to say, I'm so relieved because I was so worried about this next round of COVID, but thankfully, Biden is going give us a new vaccine for it. So, I'm going to be safe.
• 4:27
  He's going to rush it through. And so a little bit tongue in cheek there. But I just want to see, I'm sure you've been following this with Biden talking about this new vaccine that's, you know, somehow going to be better and not, you know, kill people, who knows what. But what are your what are your thoughts in seeing this right now?
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: The new vaccine is targeted against the Omicron variant called XBB one point five. Now, this variant is rapidly exiting The United States, so it's fewer than five percent of cases as through mid August. I bet it's down to about zero. So what's happened with the last two boosters, BA four, BA five, and now XBB one point five, they're simply too late. The virus is, is changing too quickly and responding to various, non sterilizing ecological pressures in the environment, and the vaccine manufacturers are too slow.
• 5:29
  To make matters worse, what we understand is that XBB one point five vaccine has not been tested in human studies. So just like with BA. Four, BA. Five, they're actually relying on animal studies and studies that simply just what's called bridging, immunobridging studies, see if they can raise antibodies against XBB one point five. We are in a new outbreak, Seth, but the outbreak is led by a new variant.
• 6:03
  It's called EG5, and it stands for Eris. And you know who Eris is?
• 6:10
  Seth Holehouse: Is it the goddess of destruction or something like that? Right?
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, good job, Seth. Yeah. It's Eris is the Greek goddess for strife and discord. Boy, you can't make this up. You can't make it up.
• 6:26
  So COVID is back for the fall causing strife and discord in our society, and it's led by a new omicron variant, e g five, which is heavily mutated. It is contagious. I have patients with it, so I want people to understand they probably will get it. My mom, who's in senior independent living, just got through it. Modification of the McCullough protocol.
• 6:52
  We're not having to use any prescription drugs now. So what's really working, Seth, are the virucidal nasal washes and sprays. I had my mom use one of the leading nasal sprays because we had a lot on hand called KofixRx, and she used that acutely every four hours and then used scope and Listerine gargles with, you know, some iodine added as a base. And then after that, dose vitamin C, zinc, high dose vitamin D. And she was able to get through it fine.
• 7:29
  No prescription drugs needed.
• 7:32
  Seth Holehouse: And no vaccines needed.
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: Mom was smart. She never got a vaccine. We looked at it carefully early on. Early in the vaccine campaign, early in 2021, I was neutral. Many recall I was asked under oath in the US Senate in November of twenty twenty what I thought about the vaccines.
• 7:52
  And I simply the entire majority we were testifying for a Republican majority leader at the time, Ron Johnson. We we had no opinion because they were they were out they were just by a press release. I had, in August of twenty twenty, published an op ed in The Hill, questioning the vaccines, and I said they were a great gamble. They were a great gamble. But when they came out of the gate, I was neutral, Seth, as I should be.
• 8:16
  Now, everyone should have been neutral at first because we didn't know what was going to happen. But it wasn't the case. You know, the American Board of Internal Medicine, which provides a credentialing for my internal medicine and cardiology and, you know, probably, you know, over half of doctors in The United States are credentialed through the American Board of Internal Medicine. They they, you know, give our board exams. Do do you know within seven days of release of Pfizer in December 2020, they put out a communique, which is still on their website, saying that doctors should actually take the vaccine, take pictures of themselves taking the vaccine as selfies, and then use that to encourage their patients.
• 8:55
  Now that was, I think, 12/17/2020. So the American Board of Internal Medicine had zero equipoise. They were going gun all guns for the vaccine, even if they had no safety data. And, you know, the same board never warned Americans or doctors about myocarditis. Myocarditis was on the FDA slide material October of twenty twenty before they came out, so it was expected.
• 9:24
  And then by December by June of twenty twenty one, the FDA and the CDC said the COVID nineteen vaccines cause myocarditis, full stop. They caused the problem. The American War of Internal Medicine never warned about myocarditis, never warned about blood clots, stroke, hemorrhage, or inflammatory neurologic problems. None of the boards did. Actually, none of the state medical boards, they never put out warnings regarding the vaccine.
• 9:50
  None of the credentialing boards I mentioned American Barber Maternal Medicine, but also American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, American College of Cardiology. We can go on and on. And so, you know, groups of doctors have written these organizations and said, listen, you know, bad things are happening here. Do you want to revise your position on this? And you know what their response is?
• 10:10
  No response. They are not responding. Not not even an engagement regarding the discussion.
• 10:17
  Seth Holehouse: Got a quick message for you. So, folks, thank goodness inflation is going down. Thank you, Biden. But wait, if inflation is going down, then why are food prices going up, energy prices going up and gas prices going up? Well, because they're lying to us.
• 10:33
  Imagine that. You see right now, the real rate of inflation is closer to 25%, not the 5% the White House wants you to believe. You can see this with your own eyes and your own wallet. What this means is that if you had a hundred thousand dollars in your savings account just one year ago, today, it's only worth about $75,000 in terms of your actual buying power. Your money is losing value by the day.
• 11:00
  If you went back to 1920, and you had a $20 bill or a one ounce gold coin, you could walk into a men's clothing store and buy an entire suit, jacket, shoes, pants, belt, everything. But think about it, what would a $20 bill buy you today? Maybe some socks, but an ounce of gold will still buy you that same suit. And this is why I believe that now more than ever, it's a good time to consider transferring at least a portion of your wealth into physical gold and silver. Real world assets have stood the test of time.
• 11:35
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• 12:00
  And when it comes to your wealth, you need someone that you can trust. So to learn more, open up a new tab right now and go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900 to speak to a real person right now. Kirk LA's team will answer all of your questions and take care of you every step of the way. So before we kind of jump into the meat of our discussion, I have a question for you. So I'm in a unique position where I'm really I'm not gonna say I'm a passive observer, because I'm obviously proactive in interviewing and asking questions, but I get to interview people across the spectrums.
• 12:40
  Get people that are, say, pro Ukraine, Anti Communist, people that are, you know, anti Ukraine, and there's there's this whole spectrum of folks that I get to interview. And I'm I I try very hard to within my own self, not form extremely fixed ideas about how things are because I find that what it does, and I see it with some journalists, that they've become convinced that this is how things are. And then they only really go that way within their interviews and their questions, is they're kind of looking for how can I reinforce my belief system through the guests I bring on? And so, you know, now I'm not saying I'm interviewing Jen Psaki to ask what she thinks about the White House, right? I've obviously followed a certain path.
• 13:26
  But one thing, and this is just a curiosity, I feel like it's a it'd be good to ask it, is that there's some doctors I've interviewed that are much more of the perspective and the whole germ versus terrain, where they have said, they've told me, Look, Seth, a virus has never been isolated. There's only been kind of bogus studies. And if you dig into them, they've never isolated it. And so they therefore have said that the basically that COVID as a virus doesn't exist in how it's presented. And so you have certain people that that have that belief, and they seem to think anybody that counters that belief and talks about COVID as a virus is problematic and wrong.
• 14:06
  But then I see the same thing happening on the flip side. And so, and I'm, you know, I kind of take in information from both aspects of it. People say, What's your opinion? And a lot times this kind of stuff I'm like, Well, I'm not really an expert. And I've heard really good arguments on all these different sides.
• 14:20
  And so I keep that strong opinion to myself if I might have one a lot of times, but I wanted to see what are your thoughts on that? Like, what do you have you come across that argument before? And how how do you frame your thinking around that? Because I just I'd love to hear your perspective.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I can tell you, I'm one of the most peer reviewed published doctors in the world in my field and one of the most peer reviewed published in COVID in history. So there are no peer reviewed papers that are evidence based that state that the virus doesn't exist. So it's almost kind of a layperson's, you know, I don't know. I guess it's a saw or it's some type of useful axiom.
• 15:09
  Do you know where I think it came from, the whole idea the virus doesn't exist? It came from a, a, some type of contractor or laborer in Alberta. And he made a city council presentation that people shouldn't have to wear masks and do all these things because the virus doesn't exist. And the city council didn't have any scientific backup, and they said, well, I I guess you're right. We can't find anything.
• 15:36
  And so they they somehow got out of wearing masks, wherever this guy was, and people cheered him. He was he was great. But in all truth, SARS CoV two, the virus, clearly exists. It was engineered by Ralph Barack at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He had the blueprints for making a chimeric virus using a bat coronavirus than a human coronavirus and making the chimeric.
• 16:01
  This was published in Nature Medicine and precedes the National Academy of Sciences in 2015. It was funded and really operationalized by Doctor. Anthony Fauci and the National Allergy Immunology Branch. EcoHealth Alliance brought the plans over to the Chinese and coordinated all this led by Peter Dasek, and the papers were published. So the virus exists.
• 16:25
  It cultures in standard viral cultures. It's been isolated. It's clearly been isolated because the Chinese isolate it. They make a vaccine out of it called the Sinovac coronavirus. You can see the virus under electron microscopy.
• 16:40
  Those papers have been published. These are all cited on my Substack Courageous Discourse, anybody who wants to look at it. So for those who deny the virus, it's it's I guess they could deny that, you know, the sky is blue or they could they could deny that oceans aren't there. I mean, people could make some type of ridiculous argument, I guess. But, no, the virus truly exists.
• 17:03
  The thing about the virus deniers and a lot of them are in The U. K. I've been on a couple of their conference calls, and they they they really get into this. Well, you can't prove it to me, and I'll I'll I'll I'll show them all the papers. They'll say, well, that's not good enough.
• 17:16
  Then I'll show them some more, and we'll just keep going and going. And then finally, said, okay. If the virus doesn't exist, what made people sick? What caused people to die of blood clots and respiratory failure? They go, oh, that was just the flu.
• 17:33
  I said, no. The flu doesn't cause blood clots. I'm a doctor. I take care of flu. No.
• 17:37
  It doesn't cause blood clots. What caused all this? And they I said, well, what they said, well, you can't trust the PCR. I said, okay. Well, antibodies that we measure and rely on that bind us to the spike protein, the nucleocapsid.
• 17:53
  What are those? And then and they quickly run out of out of answers. So so they can't ex if it's not if the virus doesn't exist, they can't explain the clinical syndrome. They can't explain the in vitro diagnostics. They can't explain any of it.
• 18:06
  So I we just simply have to dispose with that. It's a folly, basically. It's a folly that the virus doesn't exist, and and I think it does detract for the important work at hand that people have been hospitalized and died of SARS CoV-two infection, and now they are being injured, developing disabilities, dying with the vaccine. So, now germ versus terrain, I'll just say a few comments there. This is interesting.
• 18:34
  You know, one viewpoint is that it's all about the germ and that we can be free of COVID nineteen or we can test positive. It's either binary. Either we have it or we don't, and therefore, we should wear masks to prevent us from getting the virus. The that would be the the germ theory. You know, it turns out that that's probably almost completely false, and we know that because the CDC keeps wastewater SARS CoV-two data.
• 19:03
  They've been checking the water, and the water is universally positive everywhere. There's not a single nook and cranny that this country doesn't have SARS CoV-two running in it. So we're because we constantly sniff it and we swallow. We swallow probably, you know, I don't know, half a liter of secretions from our nose and mouth per day. So we're constantly swallowing the virus.
• 19:24
  So probably all of us have SARS CoV-two virus in some degree. And it's just a matter of do we have a big enough inoculum to overcome our immune defenses, or do we have a weakness, a temporary weakness in our defenses where we clinically get the infection? So the germ people are only partially correct. I mean, probably all of us have it, but someone acutely sick really, you know, transmits to somebody else. The terrain people are right because we pretty much all have it.
• 19:53
  It's just a matter of what tips us over. The one thing that's clear, though, is that we learned, you know, the hypothesis with masking is it would prevent some people from getting the virus. That was the hypothesis. That's what they worked on in the White House for months. Trump met with Scott Atlas.
• 20:09
  Scott Atlas wrote this in his book. They actually thought people were not gonna get COVID, and and that was a completely false aspiration. Turns out everyone got it. The seroprevalence studies there's there's a very good one, and good modeling studies, one from Clauset and colleagues from Harvard, shows we all got COVID. So all the efforts spent on masking and social distancing and lockdown was a complete waste of time because we all got COVID.
• 20:35
  No one avoided it. So we should have done what I've always supported doing is treating patients at high risk to prevent hospitalization and death. We should have always assumed everybody's going to get it.
• 20:46
  Seth Holehouse: Well, thank you for answering that. It's helpful to hear your perspective on it, and it gives me more to kind of sit back and think about as I'm falling asleep at night and trying to figure out the, you know, the meaning of life. It's helpful. Appreciate that. It makes a lot of sense what you've presented.
• 21:03
  So what kind of one of the big topics I wanted to really jump into with you is just this like the hundred thousand foot view of medicine and viruses and pandemics and how it's now obvious to anybody who's really looked at it that the the you know the medical industrial complex and the WHO that this has become a tool to implement a totalitarian system. And how, you know, pandemics and fear and viruses and social distancing and masking and vaccines, you now see it as it's fit fit into this plan to, you know, bring us into agenda 02/1930 and have everyone, you know, really under the control that Klaus Schwab envisions or, you know, these globalists. And so as we're looking at the murmurs of this next pandemic, and understanding what that could mean, and what it might mean if we go along with it, you know, with you as being someone that, you know, as you mentioned, is highly, highly respected, peer reviewed, you published a lot of information on this. Merging that perspective with also the understanding of how this can be used to take away our freedoms and how to combat that, What are what are your thoughts on what the American people, really people around the world, especially America where Biden's talking about this, what what do we need to do to overcome this?
• 22:27
  What do we need to do to resist? I mean, what for people that are looking at this and thinking, oh my gosh, know, might be coming, what's the advice that you have for them?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I think that one of the most important things people need to do is they need to wake up the medical community. There's a million doctors in The United States. There's a half a million nurse practitioners and physician assistants. There could be 7,000,000 nurses. That group collectively needs attention.
• 22:58
  And I think if every patient, you know, when they have a medical encounter, which people have all the time, is constantly messaging, saying, listen, you know, the masks didn't work. The CDC says we only need to mask when we're acutely sick with COVID, facing some of COVID, that the Cochrane analysis, you know, 80 plus studies showed that masking doesn't work. The virus is too small. It moves right through a mask. You know?
• 23:25
  And then, you know, you can get in these conversations with front desk personnel, with nurses in and out of the room. And then when you get to the doctor, I think you got to bring up the big issue. The big issue with the doctor is not the masking or the hand sanitizer. It's the vaccine. And with the doctor, I think that the thing to ask is, doctor, have you taken seven vaccines yourself, seven shots?
• 23:47
  And if the doctor says no, that means they have not kept up with the program. Remember, the government program says a shot every six months. No questions asked. So if the doctor has not kept up with seven shots, honestly, say, doctor, if you haven't kept up with shots, you must not believe in it. I don't think they're safe.
• 24:05
  I'm not going to take any more shots. And just needs that conversation needs to happen patient after patient after patient after patient. And then I think the doctors would say at the minimum, the doctor would say, you know what? My patient's not going to take these shots. And then I think even more, some doctors would be moved to say, You know what?
• 24:23
  I'm starting to get the sentiment that these shot these shots aren't safe and they don't work.
• 24:28
  Seth Holehouse: And that's interesting, because I think it's asking a question like that that then opens that up, because I think this, you know, in my experience, you know, I at one point spent a lot of time in the hospital system with, with a sibling, and the doctors didn't really care what my opinion on the matter was. Like, if it was something personal, but if it had to do anything with the medical that it was, it was almost as if they were above the clouds, and I couldn't even I couldn't even touch where they were at in their realm. So I think that those simple questions like that are very important.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's called the you know, the on the doctor side of it, the term that's used is disclosure. So when a doctor discloses something, it's pretty powerful. So, you know, if I take a medicine myself for a common problem, I'll say, listen, I take it myself. Then patients say, Okay, that doctor's taken it.
• 25:18
  If that doctor has enough trust in the medicine, that kind of, you know, elevates my trust. But if the doctor says, no, no, no, I, you know, I took a couple of these, and I'm not taking any more shots. Okay. Well, doctor, don't you agree these shots, aren't safe and don't work? So you can get the doctor, but you can't go to the doctor and say, hey, doctor.
• 25:38
  Should I take some more shots? I mean, because, you know, what do you think they're gonna do? They're gonna hold this party line. So ask them first how many shots they've taken. Everyone should know they should be on seven.
• 25:50
  Now, I did a Twitter poll recently, as unscientific as that is, and I asked the question, does anybody out there know someone who's taken seven shots? Because, by the way, no public figure and no doctor in public view has admitted to taking seven shots, sir. No one. Not Trump. Not Biden.
• 26:11
  None of the vice presidents. Nobody in the senate. Nobody in the house. No one. So I asked that question on Twitter, and I was surprised with the results.
• 26:19
  You know how many people said they knew somebody who took seven shots?
• 26:24
  Seth Holehouse: Five, maybe.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Not it was nine point nine percent.
• 26:29
  Seth Holehouse: That much?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Now, nine point nine percent. Now, interesting, most of the positive respondents came from Canada or other countries, not The United States. Hey. In in Canada in Canada, listen. You you know, they're keeping track.
• 26:44
  They've got a really tight system. There's not gonna be any fake vaccine cards, and you gotta take them. If you wanna stay employed in the hospital, we gotta take them. Now Canada of interest, Doctor. William Macus, oncologist in Canada, has kept track, very careful track.
• 27:01
  There are up to one hundred and eighty dead Canadian doctors after the vaccine, one hundred eighty. It's a huge number. He's got the list. He's written the the Canadian Medical Association, all the various medical authorities, and said, listen, here's the list. You know, do you still still support these vaccines?
• 27:21
  Is there going to be any investigation? I mean, that's a lot of physician manpower to go down. And and to my knowledge, they're doing the same thing that the American College of Cardiology, the American College of Obstractors and Gynecology is doing. They are stonewalling. Stonewalling, meaning no response.
• 27:42
  Seth Holehouse: Which it just it's just incredible. Though, I mean, it's almost what you'd expect from how they've acted thus far. This is this is their response. Yeah, and and William Maccasie, he's his sub sack is incredible. I've interviewed him, and his data that he puts together, I mean, it's sad, especially when you look at, you know, we had a show specifically about all the children that have died, which was just, you know, just a difficult, difficult topic.
• 28:08
  And so as we, you know, enter into whatever comes next, you know, they, if you look at how things worked in the first pandemic, it was the pressure, it was, if you want to keep your job, you have to take the vaccine. It was if you want to go to work, you have to wear a mask. If you want to go to Whole Foods, you got to wear a mask. How how do you think that how would you respond to that? How should we respond to that?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I think it's coming back. Already, there was an elementary school in Texas that was shut down, but the principal said, it's a no brainer. We have to keep people safe. Well, I mean, it's it's like less than a common cold even for the most frail senior citizen. I mean, we're gonna close down schools now because of the common cold.
• 28:53
  And and I can already tell you, I think masking is is at least the recommendations aren't gonna masking to come back. And so I think the question I ask is, well, how has the data changed? The CDC said masks don't work, and the only time we should wear them is in a health care setting when we're coming face to face with COVID, just like we would have tuberculosis or anything else. And it doesn't stop the spread. It's just gonna try to reduce, you know, a large droplet spread of the virus, a big inoculum.
• 29:24
  So I think a lot of people will passively resist. They won't wear masks. They can't they can't find a mask to wear, and they're going to resist it. We are going to have a rise in cases. There's no doubt about it.
• 29:38
  The hospitals have been empty for a long time. We need to resist testing. There was a blip in August about increase in hospital COVID, and it wasn't pulmonary COVID at all. It was just, you know, stray testing that's being done, inappropriate testing for the virus. If someone's clinically ill now, unless there's some complicated circumstances, I don't even advise testing.
• 30:02
  We just it's like a common cold. We treat it the same way and and just simply get through it. I think people will need to really, really strongly look at taking any more shots. Number of deaths that's accumulated now, we're over seventeen thousand five hundred deaths certified by the CDC. The accepted underreporting ratio in FDA testimony is thirty.
• 30:26
  That puts us between five hundred and six hundred thousand vaccine deaths. And I don't know if you saw this, Seth, but did you hear about the Kaiser Family Foundation survey results that just came out?
• 30:37
  Seth Holehouse: I I feel like that I saw that floating around Twitter, you know, being shared around, but but tell us about it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: The Kaiser Family Foundation is a very pro vaccine organization. And so they try to do survey sentiment on vaccines largely to try to encourage families to take vaccines. So so they ask very biased questions. But they asked a series of questions, and the responses came out, and even they can't hide the truth. So in the Kaiser Family Foundation survey, about a third of Americans know the vaccine is causing death, large number of death?
• 31:22
  I think the answer was thousands of deaths, a third of America. It it can't be hidden. So, when you have a third of the country that knows something, they talk to the other two thirds. I don't think there's anybody walking around right now that thinks these vaccines are safe. That's the reason why there's no engagement in the medical community.
• 31:44
  You know, if I would if I'd send an email to the American College of Cardiology and I said Beta blockers don't work. And then immediately someone emailed back, Yes, they do, and here's the reason why, you know, we would get a debate. But if I emailed the American College of Cardiology, which I did, and I said, Listen, the vaccines don't look safe, and here's our publication saying so. You know, I strongly encourage you to reevaluate your position. Please respond.
• 32:10
  Nothing. Did the same thing with the American College of Gynecology and Obstetrics this weekend. Nothing. Zero. That is distinctly unusual.
• 32:21
  Do you think it's because they know
• 32:23
  Seth Holehouse: that's the truth and they just they they can't they just can't respond?
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I I think it's this. I I think I think the vast majority of doctors took these shots, and they can't psychologically handle the truth. They can't handle it because it's in their own body, and they know they can't get it out. And now that we've learned the messenger RNA is not broken down by ribonucleases, it's in the body for the long term, produces the spike protein, which is really in the body for the long term, probably, you know, over a year, maybe more two or three years.
• 32:56
  They can't psychologically handle it. Recently, we've submitted a, the largest autopsy series paper on myocarditis. We certainly submitted it to a very good journal, circulation. And and, you know, in one of the edits, one of the suggestions by the reviewers, he said, I think the the authors take an alarmist stance that we're alarmists. I was like, wait a minute.
• 33:26
  This is a brand new genetic technology. We should be alarmists. We should be conservative. We should be concerned. Matter of fact, the opposite of alarmist is laissez faire.
• 33:37
  One doesn't care or being casual or being dismissive. We should never be laissez faire, casual, or dismissive on safety concerns like death.
• 33:50
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family, with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?
• 34:10
  This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.
• 34:43
  So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food.
• 35:02
  This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is. So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar.
• 35:32
  They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etc. But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seeds, you can buy all of your restorable food. And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year.
• 35:57
  Again, depends on your budget, but definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed, those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future. So to go ahead and do this right now, go up a new tab and go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, that's s e t h, promo code Seth, you'll save 15% off of your entire order. So again, folks, the time is running out and you'd rather be three months or one year early than one day late. Again, heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth to save 15% today.
• 36:33
  You brought a good point, which is looking at the fact that I think that there's a lot of people that they might see it for what it is now, but they won't admit it because not only did they take, say, you know, the shot and three boosters, but they gave it to their 10 year old kid, and their 80 year old And now they're sitting with that weight. I can imagine that that that must be a very difficult thing. I mean, look, with my daughter, if say she eats some food, and then I find out that there was a particular dye in it that I know causes some kind of cancer, it's like, I'm like, oh my gosh, how could I have done that? I need to be more careful with her. I just I can't imagine what people will be going through to think that they gave their kids these vaccines to then find this out this information out.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: It's true. Well, you know, the case in point for that is Democratic congressman Sean Kasten from Illinois. He's pushing the vaccines, pushing the vaccines. Everybody needs to get vaxxed, vaxxed, vaxxed. You know, he's in social media, you know, proudly saying as soon as says, as soon as I can, I'm gonna vaxx my kids.
• 37:39
  And ostensibly, he vaxxed his kids. His 17 year old daughter, Emily, dies in her sleep. And this is a classic myocarditis death. When subclinical myocarditis, there's two periods of time where we see young people die, and they both have surgeons of adrenaline, and that's during sports and during the waking hours, three a. To six a.
• 37:59
  M. So she finds her daughter dead. The doctor's opinion in the end is a lethal cardiac arrhythmia, which is how myocarditis cases die. And and Kasten just seems like he's in a daze. He's just lost his daughter.
• 38:14
  She's perfectly healthy. She was gonna go to college next year. And I I, you know, I I don't know how that he can psychologically handle it. The only change in behavior of Sean Kasten is he no longer tweets about the vaccines. You know, same thing with Deion Sanders.
• 38:33
  Deion Sanders is tweeting about the vaccines. Everybody should take the vaccines. He's holding seminars. He's really trying to cajole all of his players that are taking the vaccines, and there's all these videos of him. Vaccines are gonna be so great.
• 38:44
  When Aaron Rogers, quarterback of the Packers, doesn't take the vaccine, Deion Sanders, former football great, says, oh, Rogers is being selfish. He should take the vax. He should take the vax. And sure enough, Deion Sanders is rewarded by getting blood clots after taking multiple shots in his arterial system. He's had multiple surgeries, amputations.
• 39:08
  He's in a wheelchair half the time. He'll never run normally again. He's trying to coach the Colorado buffaloes. But you know what? Sanders doesn't mention the vax anymore, doesn't say how important it is.
• 39:20
  Or how about weatherman Al Roker? Al's the nicest guy in the world. I met him one time. I did a TV show with him. Al's a great guy.
• 39:28
  And so Al takes his first vaccine on TV at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York, and he asked the doctor. He goes, hey. Is this safe? And the doctor kind of chuckles nervously. Yeah.
• 39:40
  These are really safe, Al. And so he takes his shot. He takes three or four or five shots, then he gets COVID about a year ago, and then he's hospitalized multiple times for blood clots. Blood clots, blood clots, blood clots. He nearly dies.
• 39:55
  And you know what? I don't think Al Broker's going on TV anymore and taking any more shots. He doesn't mention the shots. Or how about my favorite football broadcaster, Kirk Herbstreit, former Ohio State great? He gets COVID first, then he gets long COVID afterwards.
• 40:15
  I mean, that's the worst time to take shots is when you're already loaded with COVID. So what does he do? He goes, well, I gotta take shots. He goes, it's the only way to come back. So he tweets out that he's taking shots, probably had a couple rounds.
• 40:28
  And then guess what happens last year? Blood clots. Talk about a young, healthy father. He's got blood clots, pulmonary embolism, a shoot to his lungs. He can't travel.
• 40:38
  He misses the the NFL draft and other events. And you know what? Doesn't mention the vaccine anymore. Now now what if public figures came out and were honest and said, you know what? I was wrong.
• 40:50
  The vaccines aren't safe. I got blood clots. This is not such a good thing. If all the public figures came out and said that, I think it would change the sentiment of the country. But I had to turn Seth to Twitter to find an answer.
• 41:08
  And I asked on Twitter why our public figures who obviously got burned by the vaxx, they took the vaxx, now they've got blood clots, myocarditis, why are they silent about their vaccine problem? After they promoted the vaccine publicly, why are they silent? What do you think they said?
• 41:29
  Seth Holehouse: They'll lose their job or lose their their money or their contracts or
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: ego. It's so interesting. Well, I mean, but think about think about some of these people. I mean, they're not they're not living, you know, from paycheck to paycheck. Some of these Yeah.
• 41:46
  Public figures are so far ahead financially.
• 41:49
  Seth Holehouse: Dion Sanders is just not begging for money.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Jamie Foxx. None of these guys are. And you know what the answer was on Twitter? You you pretty much got it.
• 42:00
  Is people think that the reason why is they've already lost something with the blood clot or the amputation, what have you, but they're afraid they're gonna lose more. They're afraid. So it's the fear of losing more that that they simply can't come out and be honest. And you can see how circuitous this becomes and how, you know, how nebulous people are. I think one of the real examples is Jamie Foxx.
• 42:30
  Everybody knows Jamie Foxx. So in 2021, I was at a Cowboys game. Jamie Foxx and his his entourage came by. He wanted to meet me. We talked, and this is 2021.
• 42:41
  And so, you know, we had a private conversation. I'm not at liberty to to give you all the details, but he he he I can tell you, when we finished, he knew the vaccines weren't safe. He knew he knew my viewpoint. And according to Hollywood Reporter, AJ Benza, which Fox, by the way, has not refuted, Benza said that Fox took some vaccine shots because he had to take them to go on set for the next movie. And according to Benza, Fox had a stroke.
• 43:08
  He was hospitalized for months. We didn't hear from him. Then he was in inpatient rehab. So when Fox comes out, he's lost a lot of weight. His left side of his face is is somewhat paralyzed.
• 43:19
  Fox says he has tubes in him for a long period of time, and I can tell you, my medical doctor, someone's had a stroke. That means a a percutaneous jejunostomy tube or a feeding tube through the stomach wall and then a tracheostomy tube, and Fox's shirt is up high enough where it would cover up. He had he had a he had, like, an IZOD shirt, but it was buttoned up to here where you wouldn't be able to see where the tracheostomy tube was. Fox says he has tubes. Now when Fox gives his comeback video, he never says what the diagnosis is, which is kind of interesting.
• 43:54
  Right? Why did he say I had a stroke or I had something else? He doesn't say that. He just says he's been to held it back, and he talks about, you know, the difficult journey and all this. And he's clearly lost a lot of weight.
• 44:06
  You see the pictures of me and him. You know, he's he's younger than I am. He's really fit. He's he's obviously a tremendously gifted person. So whatever has happened, he's been ruined by it.
• 44:16
  And he doesn't deny any of the reporting, which is widely out there that he took the vaccine and his drug. And I think the other really notable public figure, because he's back in the media now and he's back on the field, is Damar Hamlin. So Hamlin plays for the Buffalo Bills, and on Monday Night Football last year, of 2022, he has a cardiac arrest after making a tackle. And the cardiac arrest requires CPR. He's shocked.
• 44:52
  And within twenty four hours, I was called to be on TV. Was going on Tucker Carlson. And there were other doctors talking about, you know, how much money was raised in sympathy for him. And, you know, they weren't talking about his condition. Other doctors came on through the day and said, It wasn't the vaccine.
• 45:10
  It wasn't the vaccine. Of course, how did they know? I mean, the guys in the ICU, we don't have any information yet. But but but somehow they knew it wasn't the vaccine. Well, now we know the NFL ran a vaccine mandate from August of of twenty twenty two August of twenty one to March of twenty twenty two.
• 45:32
  And so let's make sure I get my dates right. So August of twenty one yeah. For nine months to March of twenty twenty two. Hamlin is playing actually in January of twenty three, so he's playing in this year. The NFL says that ninety five percent of the players took the shot, so let's assume Hamlet took it.
• 45:56
  When I went on Tucker Carlson, I said, Tucker, what I need to know, I'm seeing this every day, is I need to know if he took the vaccine Because if he took the vaccine, vaccine induced myocarditis could be the source of his cardiac arrest. It was the surge of adrenaline making that big tackle put him into a near fatal rhythm. This is happening all over the world. And I also told Tucker that he's going to walk out of the hospital. He's going to find some recovery because I had all the parameters, and people were stunned.
• 46:24
  It's like, Doctor. McCullough, how do you know it's only twenty four hours? I said, This is what I do. Listen to doctors who actually know something. There were doctors saying he's brain dead and doctors all these doctors on TV who, you know, are out of clinical practice.
• 46:36
  They quickly lose their acumen. And so I was right. He walked out of the hospital. Then what happens with Hamlin is interesting after that. The doctors in the hospital never say what caused the cardiac arrest.
• 46:47
  Just like Jamie Foxx. They never say what happened. And wait a minute. You're a doctor. When people are in the hospital, there's two things people want to know.
• 46:56
  One, what's wrong with me? And two, when do I get out? That's everything what people want. So Hamlin and his family must have wanted to know what's wrong with him. So Hamlin goes about, and again, he talks about how difficult his journey is, but never mentions the diagnosis.
• 47:12
  He meets president Biden. They buy ICDs for elementary school, Seth, and this keeps going, but he never says what happens. So then he goes on Michael Strahan. And Michael Strahan, former New York giant, interviews Hamlin. And he finally says, well, listen.
• 47:30
  What caused your cardiac arrest? And Hamlin just kinda bites his lip, and he looks left and right, and he goes, I really don't wanna go there. So he doesn't wanna say what causes it. So he's so evasive. And then it was about a month later.
• 47:45
  Ham Hamlin comes out. He goes, I know what caused it. I know what caused it. He goes, it's because I made a hard tackle, and it was commodio cordis, which is just taking a blow to the chest. Well, that that's that's very, very rare, and it's never happened in football or pro football because the pads prevent that.
• 48:05
  And he goes, well, my doctors, all the doctors think that's what I have. So here we go. So Hamlin is back out on the field playing, and he may not have a defibrillator in. Now a lot of the athletes are taking defibrillators quietly. They're called subcutaneous ICDs, and they're going back to play.
• 48:24
  So we know Vince Iwichuku for USC did that. I met pilot Snow who had a cardiac arrest in DFW Airport on the jetway afterwards. Due to the vaccine, he came out and said it's due to the vaccine. And so I've met him. I had a chance to to examine him, see his defibrillator.
• 48:41
  So I know he took a subcutaneous ICD. But to my knowledge, Hamlin's the first player ever to have a cardiac arrest, need to be shocked on the field, now is coming back on the field with no protection.
• 48:54
  Seth Holehouse: Incredible. Incredible. Something I want to ask you about. So earlier you mentioned, based upon some of the data that's been published, and then the kind of extrapolation of that, I think it was like a 30 x kind of number that you arrived at I think between five hundred and six hundred thousand deaths, you know, caused by the vaccine, which I assume myocarditis, strokes, etc, are a lot of these types of deaths. Now looking at, you know, the long term of what this looks like.
• 49:26
  So this is, you know, really, think that what that what we're looking at is just the the more immediate, right, the people that are dying, obviously, within one to two years of getting the vaccine or the second or third booster. So, as we're looking to the future, say another year out, two years out, whether it's myocarditis or the turbo cancers that are developing or any of the other health issues that are coming about. And also then bringing into picture the what trends that you're seeing now. Do you think that we're going to continue to see an increased number of people that are dying? Or do you think that we're, we're since people that the uptake of the vaccines and boosters has really fallen off, that we're kind of over the hump and it's gonna be less and less, or do you expect the opposite?
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Boy, that's a critical question. We know that, let's say of the seventeen thousand five hundred deaths, the CDC has registered. Remember, the CDC has only seen a trickle of what's happening. But of those they register, about eleven hundred of those are on the same day you take the shot or within a few hours. It's almost right there in the vaccine center.
• 50:38
  So those acute deaths are obviously going to go away because very few people are taking the shot. The CDC is still stating fifteen percent of people are taking the shots. We can't confirm that. And so some of that acute risk is gone. I think the case to look at is the case of Oscar Cabrera Odomis Odomis.
• 51:01
  I don't know if you have you heard of this case, Seth?
• 51:03
  Seth Holehouse: No. I haven't.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. This is a notable case. So in 2021, Odomis, from The Dominican Republic this year is a international player basketball, Takes the shots. He has a cardiac arrest on the court.
• 51:17
  I mean, just a complete face plant. And they have to do CPR, shock him, and they saved him. Yeah. That's Adamas there. And he's taken out of basketball, which is the right thing to do.
• 51:30
  He's treated like I'm treating patients in my office. And then he's trying to recover and come back to playing international ball. And he's in a health center, and he's he's has a medical stress test done. You can see that the leads are taped in. Medical stress test means there's a crash cart, there's defibrillator, IV, all the drugs we need.
• 51:49
  And, Seth, he dies on the treadmill. This guy is fit as a fiddle. He dies on the treadmill. This case is important. It means that, a, if someone has a cardiac arrest with sports, they can arrest two years later.
• 52:04
  That applies to Damar Hamlin with no ICD. It also applies to, like, Vince Iwichuku. Yeah. There's Adamas that says stress test right before he died. On the right is right before he died.
• 52:16
  So the case of Adamas has to be looked at very carefully, because if one can die two years later after the shots from myocarditis, you know, all bets are off if we're out of the woods or not. The other paper that's notable is by Lee and colleagues, LI and colleagues. Huge study, Seth. Seven hundred and fifty thousand people who've taken two shots in 2021 versus one point five million who didn't. And they were evaluating the retinal arteries and retinal veins on scanning, and they found really an ominous finding.
• 52:50
  There were micro blood clots traveling through the retinal arteries and veins of those who took the shot. Now it wasn't everybody. It was a small percentage, maybe two percent, but it was ostensibly zero in people who didn't take the shots. So what I'm telling you is there are people who take the shots two years later where the blood clotting processes are not the same, heart function may not be the same, risk for blood clots is still elevated, risk for heart disease is elevated, know, potentially risk for stroke. Clearly risk for blood clots, immunologic problems.
• 53:25
  And I think the big wild card out there is cancer, Seth. And I'm not I'm not ready to call cancer right now, but this is what we know there. Cancer horizons are about five years. There's about a five year horizon for cancer, meaning if you got exposed to something now, there'd be about a five year risk where cancer could pop up. A paper from the University of Pittsburgh by Singh and colleagues published in 2020 that by computational modeling of the spike protein, it looked like the s two segment of the spike protein, which is installed in the human body after vaccination and not after COVID.
• 54:08
  So not after the respiratory infection, but the vaccine recipients have plenty of s two segment in the body that inhibits two tumor suppressor systems, one called p 53, the other one called BRCA. So that's worrisome. So our immune system, our immune surveillance system to to keep cancer in check could be done. That's first point. Second point, the Chinese published a paper stating that the vaccines could actually, because they're new genetic material, that they could actually impair natural DNA repair mechanisms.
• 54:42
  If DNA is damaged, that we have a variety of mechanisms to repair it, and the vaccines by loading the body genetically may impair that. And then the final piece of information to hit was a manuscript published on the preprint server by Kevin McKernan, a molecular biologist, where he's analyzed vials of Pfizer and Moderna. And in Pfizer vials only, he discovered contamination by what's called SV40 or simian virus forty, not the entire viral site segment, but just the promoter and enhancer regions. These are standard genetic tools used, by the vaccine companies to amplify the production of messenger RNA from E. Coli.
• 55:23
  So they're just not properly washing the products and using, what's called, DNA aces to, cleanse the DNA. And so it's way over the thresholds of concern from contamination perspective. Now multiple labs have confirmed that. So with SV40, people are getting a direct DNA injection, and if there are oncogenes or cancer related genes, SV40 can turn them on. It's a known promoter of cancer.
• 55:54
  So what I've just summarized is a multi hit hypothesis that the COVID nineteen vaccines given over and over and over again could actually be cancer promoting. So the clinical observations have raced way ahead, Seth. You know, there's something called turbo cancer. Have you heard of that term?
• 56:13
  Seth Holehouse: I have. Yeah.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's scary. Turbo cancer means it means the development of a cancer and it progresses so rapidly that there's almost no way you can treat it and it's fatal. And turbo cancer is also being referred to reactivated cancers. There's a lot of cancers in remission and then they take the vaccine and they they literally come out of remission. So I'm not ready to call cancer yet.
• 56:40
  There's no agency that has said that vaccines cause cancer yet. But even what the regulatory agencies say is terrible, Seth. The regulatory agencies say the vaccines cause myocarditis. They all do. In fact, The UK and Australia have guidelines on how to manage the myocarditis.
• 56:58
  It's so common. They they they they all the the regulatory agencies and society say the vaccine causes blood clots, for sure. They all say that. And they also agree that the vaccines cause neurologic problems, immunologic neurologic problems like Guillain Barre syndrome, but there's a whole bunch of others, peripheral neuropathies, etcetera. And the agencies do say, and there's warnings, that the vaccines cause a blood disorder called VITT, vaccine induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia, and then and then multisystem inflammatory disorder.
• 57:35
  I mean, what I've mentioned, just one of these is bad enough. It should have been pulled off the market, Seth. What's blowing people's minds is is this is a this is a cornucopia of of new medical diseases, and and the governments are still promoting these.
• 57:51
  Seth Holehouse: And I think that the reasons as to why that is, that that's a whole other show, whole other hour long discussion because it just it doesn't make sense from the perspective that these organizations are supposed to be protecting us, keeping us safe, and helping us heal. I mean, it just it doesn't make sense at all from that through that lens.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: It's true. The agencies, their first priority is to protect public safety, but their actions are doing just the opposite. They're putting the public at risk to be harmed with more vaccine injections.
• 58:28
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. So, Doctor. McCullough, before we finish up, I'd love to learn more about the McCullough Foundation. So, you've got that behind you, and I've got your website here. So, tell us what you're doing with this.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: McCullough Foundation is a new five zero one(three) organization for tax deductible donations, and it supports myself and my team in really four important areas. The first is investigative scholarship. That's what brought the world the McCullough protocol and now, what's called base spike detoxification. The second area is, media, like I'm doing right now. I spend a tremendous amount of time in media.
• 59:09
  Do you know, Seth? You know, I've given more media appearances and generated more time in the media, media clips, than all the public health and government officials combined worldwide. I'm the leader by a mile, actually. And then the third area is legal. I'm a pro bono expert in over 100 cases, and I'm supporting many others in there, military, nurses, others who have been wronged.
• 59:36
  And then finally, I advise governments. I'll be testifying in the European Parliament. I just finished advising the House of Representatives in New Hampshire. I've been in the US Senate multiple times. So McCullough Foundation is is very big.
• 59:48
  The money supports me and my team, information technology, graphics, my co author, John Leek, who's a wonderful investigative journalist. So donate to the McCullough Foundation. You know, I have been I've been basically self funding my efforts to help the world for the last three years, and I'm glad I got this over the finish line.
• 1:00:09
  Seth Holehouse: Well, good. And I encourage folks to do that. And I'll put the URL link in the description to the show. So, know, I mean, you've been, I think it's a pretty incredible feat to say that you've been on, you know, on the air more than any of these other people combined. And, you know, I'm happy that I can be a few hours of that airtime.
• 1:00:30
  I thank you for what you're doing. I just, I think that you've got a very important voice in, you know, whether it's your Joe Rogan interview or your Tucker interviews, you know, you're reaching you're reaching an audience that is not easy to reach with this information. And that's very important. I'm I'm preaching to the choir a lot, you know, that people are following, whether it's Alex Jones or people that are out there kind of banging the drum about this, I think that you have an ability to cross over and reach, you know, people that may have gotten the first vaccine and are considering whether to give it to their kids or not. And maybe it's that interview they see with you and Tucker or that clip of Joe Rogan going around.
• 1:01:06
  So it's it's a very important statement because you mentioned before that there's that one third that know the truth. And they're, you know, they're trying to convince the other two thirds that, hey, join us on this. And I think that you're playing an important role in that.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah. No. I agree. You're doing the same.
• 1:01:23
  You're doing great work. And, you know, now's the time now is the rise of independent media, Seth. Independent media is where it's at. Everyone knows it. And, as soon as something becomes censored, everyone knows it's true, and everybody gravitates to it.
• 1:01:39
  Exactly.
• 1:01:42
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Well, thanks again for for taking the time with us today. I really appreciate it, and I hope to have a wonderful rest of your day and your week. Thank you.