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"Semi-Mental Hygiene" (Friday, January 30, 2026, Hour 1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: The houseful, ridic and dangerous threats and hate yes Time.
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  Speaker 2: First Thing Today on the Talk Media Network by Joe Thomas,
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  Speaker 2: the second most famous Thomas and Charlottesville Jewart.
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  Speaker 3: Said, steal me stem at least for work. When the
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  Speaker 3: sun comes up, drops at the school, joy.
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  Speaker 4: All the treasure needs.
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  Speaker 3: No wonder Josas Smith, he only ass.
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  Speaker 5: Joe, God bless you for letting me be of service
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  Speaker 5: to you this morning. I want to be joined in.
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  Speaker 5: After we tell you what's been going on, we want
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  Speaker 5: to hear how it's impacting you where you are. Of course,
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  Speaker 5: I will share our analysis of the evidence left behind
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  Speaker 5: in the debris field of yesterday's news, and as we
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  Speaker 5: sort through it all, we will share our forensics with you.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know full transparency whatever. Everyone's on fire here
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  Speaker 5: in our flagship city. Because the American Civil Liberties Union has,
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  Speaker 5: through Freedom of Information Act requests, received a list of
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  Speaker 5: potential ice detention facilities, and one of them is right
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  Speaker 5: here in Stanton, Virginia's Technically, if you look at the
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  Speaker 5: list from the ACLU, it says Craigsville. It's the Augusta
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  Speaker 5: County former Augusta County Jail. But they've closed it two
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  Speaker 5: years ago. And I love this though the ACLU and
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  Speaker 5: there were probably said, you know, there was a lot
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  Speaker 5: of sexual assault. You know, report said this jail. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: it's been closed for two years. I imagine any of
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  Speaker 5: the perpetrators have been moved elsewhere. The silliest thing we know.
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  Speaker 5: I just it's today's silliest thing. Okay, in a pantheon
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  Speaker 5: of other silly things, this one's today's silly thing. There
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  Speaker 5: are a lot of sexual assault allegations. Really in a jail.
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  Speaker 5: There's the phrase, don't bend over for the soap mean
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  Speaker 5: anything to I know, I know they mean they mean
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  Speaker 5: in between the guards and the and the inmates. I
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  Speaker 5: understand that I'm being obtuse. For a point. It's an
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  Speaker 5: empty jail, it's a hulking facility. It's it's decades centuries
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  Speaker 5: away from being Alcatraz. Nobody's coming for a tour of it.
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  Speaker 5: And now the ape, well, it's a rice once again.
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  Speaker 5: We must bring the conversation back to reality, to or
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  Speaker 5: to take Tom Holman's words to hearts.
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  Speaker 1: Writ and dangers of threats and hate must stop.
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  Speaker 5: As Tom Holman yesterday in Minneapolis. He went on to
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  Speaker 5: say and.
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  Speaker 1: We all agreed to that. All everybody may to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: we got to stop the rhetoric, the hateful riddick that
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  Speaker 1: has caused an increase in assaults that it calls because
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  Speaker 1: of that has to send security teams out with the
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  Speaker 1: rest teams which serves the city of additional resource because
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  Speaker 1: of the rhetic, because of the threats, because of the assaults.
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  Speaker 5: I can't disagree with him on that. It's a resource
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  Speaker 5: management deal. And the most damning part is we've all agreed,
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  Speaker 5: the mayor of the governor and me. They've abandoned us,
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  Speaker 5: our citizens, that the neighbors, the people who reside in
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  Speaker 5: our community and clean up the dishes at the coffee
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  Speaker 5: shop that we like to go to and are keeping
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  Speaker 5: the prices down on the coffee that we have to
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  Speaker 5: buy there. Oh I'm sorry, was that bit out loud?
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  Speaker 5: Did that hurt your feelings? Maybe they need to be
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  Speaker 5: hurt a little bit. Our first things this morning, shut down, shutdown?
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  Speaker 5: Who's got the shutdown? President Trump and Democrats in the
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  Speaker 5: Senate say there is a deal to avert a partial
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  Speaker 5: government shut down and fund the Department of Homeland Security
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  Speaker 5: for two more months, as two more weeks pardon me
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  Speaker 5: as negotiations continue on proposed restrictions to what DHS can
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  Speaker 5: do regarding immigration enforcement. Under the agreement, the Senate would
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  Speaker 5: move quickly to pass five of the six spending bills
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  Speaker 5: that have already cleared House funding and most of the
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  Speaker 5: federal government for the rest of the fiscal year ending
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  Speaker 5: September thirtieth, while passing a two week extension for DHS.
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  Speaker 5: Notice what they've managed to do is move the discussion
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  Speaker 5: away from the extension of subsidies into premiums for the
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  Speaker 5: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, House Republicans are proposing
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  Speaker 5: sweeping changes to voting laws. It's the Save Act. It's
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  Speaker 5: been re a filed long shot, yes, as many think,
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  Speaker 5: but the package was re released Thursday, including requirements for
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  Speaker 5: photo identification for people before they can get into a
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  Speaker 5: government building or receive a snap benefit check. Oh no,
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  Speaker 5: I mean to vote, I'm sorry, and proof of citizenship,
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  Speaker 5: both to be put in place in twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 5: some states, including Oregon, that would happen immediately, and President
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  Speaker 5: Trump says he plans to announce who he wants to
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  Speaker 2: Twitter amaze your friends here in First Thing Today by
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  Speaker 2: Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for letting us be of service to you
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  Speaker 5: this morning on the subject of who is behind the
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  Speaker 5: door first and foremost for Scott down Virginia Beach found
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  Speaker 5: us on the radio, was listening. I'm not sure. We're
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  Speaker 5: on two stations, their sister stations, w NI S and
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  Speaker 5: w t A R down there, but bracing for the
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  Speaker 5: snows that are coming this weekend there, trust me, affeliate
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  Speaker 5: player up here, we're still under six inches of ice
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  Speaker 5: because of the sleet and freezing rain. Oh it didn't
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  Speaker 5: know so much. Yeah, and then two inches of ice
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  Speaker 5: on top of it. They still the cities can't because
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  Speaker 5: the city has decided, you know, it doesn't snow so
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  Speaker 5: much here, so for budgetary concerns, we're going to cut
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  Speaker 5: back on city facilities. Now they're going to go out
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  Speaker 5: and pay bust out retail on people with snowplows and
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  Speaker 5: front loaders. Can we borrow you guys with the diggers
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  Speaker 5: to break up this stuff that's like slabs of granite.
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  Speaker 5: And got my wife's car out of the driveway yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: This is a week after it snowed and it was
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  Speaker 5: still like slabs of granite. They're just teaching us all
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  Speaker 5: what it's like if you really want to run Greenland,
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  Speaker 5: get on with your bad self. But anyway, Scott down
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  Speaker 5: in Hampton Roads found us because he heard us entree
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  Speaker 5: each segment with a little Zebra band called Zebra from
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  Speaker 5: the early nineties Gold Records, and you know they were
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  Speaker 5: Darley on MTV still out there touring fiftieth anniversary of
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  Speaker 5: the band, and Scott just quick question, did you come
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  Speaker 5: see him in Chesterfield last year? I was there with
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  Speaker 5: my wife. So hopefully if you see him around, they're
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  Speaker 5: supposed to join us on one of our Saturday programs
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  Speaker 5: to talk about their new album. Actually have a new
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  Speaker 5: record coming out, but that's not the reason we used
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  Speaker 5: that particular diddy from the Zebra Library. The subject of
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  Speaker 5: Freedom of Information Act requests has come up because we
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  Speaker 5: were talking about this ac LU report that they received
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  Speaker 5: through Freedom of Information Act and Kareem is calling them liars.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't say, you know, acl you are liars. I
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  Speaker 5: think they are. They play fast and loose with truthiness,
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  Speaker 5: let's just put it that way. But he calls them out.
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  Speaker 5: He says, Foyer requests aren't fast or quick. This is
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  Speaker 5: a legal leak. So he's saying that the government leaked
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  Speaker 5: this information about repurposing some jails, most of them in
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  Speaker 5: the Middle Atlantic, some Pennsylvania and some in North Carolina,
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  Speaker 5: and some here in Virginia. Hanover and Augusta County are
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  Speaker 5: the two that are inflaming people the most. And I
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  Speaker 5: don't mean it was a jail for years, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: and the point I was making about the ACLU is
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  Speaker 5: they're bringing up sexual assaults that happened, you know, decade ago,
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  Speaker 5: and even it hasn't happened for two years because the
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  Speaker 5: facility has been closed. But Kareem's point about Foyer, fast
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  Speaker 5: and quick are not in the words that make the
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  Speaker 5: acronym It's Freedom of Information Act. They aren't fast, No,
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  Speaker 5: they're not. And this began with one of our guests
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  Speaker 5: that's coming up later in the morning, former DHS Secretary
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  Speaker 5: Ken Kuchinelli. Ken Kuchinelli, as the Attorney General for Virginia
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  Speaker 5: asked some of the universities, could you show us what
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  Speaker 5: these climate scientists were doing with taxpayer money because there
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  Speaker 5: was a law called the Fraud Against Taxpayers Act, and
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  Speaker 5: they wanted to make sure that Virginia wasn't violating the
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  Speaker 5: Fraud Against Taxpayers Act. And they said, no, you can't.
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  Speaker 5: And so Ken filed through the Attorney General's office. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of sad when your attorney general has to
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  Speaker 5: file a Freedom of Information Act request to get information
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  Speaker 5: from one of his own clients. Anyway, So since then,
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  Speaker 5: the liberals who all wrote the Freedom of Information Act
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  Speaker 5: request laws, starting with Hillary R. Clinton, when she was
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  Speaker 5: a young lawyer climbing the political ladder trying to ignore
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  Speaker 5: her husband's peccadillios down in Arkansas, was up in DC
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  Speaker 5: working on the Watergate case and stuff like that. She
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  Speaker 5: was one of the the godmothers of Foyer requests in
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  Speaker 5: that kind of ironic, don't you think. Uh So they
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  Speaker 5: wrote them so that they could find out what those
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  Speaker 5: nasty Republicans were all doing, like Dick Nixon. And then
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  Speaker 5: once they got into office, like Hillary's husband, when people
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  Speaker 5: would file Foyer requests like Ken Couchinelli even or Chris
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  Speaker 5: Horner or me, they wrote laws that said, well, it's
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  Speaker 5: kind of onerous for you to ask for all this information,
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  Speaker 5: so we can start charging you. And this is what
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  Speaker 5: they did, Kareem. They created a price list where you
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  Speaker 5: had to pay to get information from the government you
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  Speaker 5: had already paid taxes into. There were protests so they
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  Speaker 5: carve out for the fees, and foyer generally are waived
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  Speaker 5: for journalists. Now they want to add authorized journalists like
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  Speaker 5: licensed journalists to the list. So uh foya is a game.
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  Speaker 5: The liberals wanted it when they wanted to bring down Republicans.
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  Speaker 5: As soon as people started using it against them, they
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  Speaker 5: wanted to turn it into this obfuscated mess of well,
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  Speaker 5: here's what it's going to cost, and we have thirty
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  Speaker 5: days to comply with your request, and if we comply
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  Speaker 5: and say we've got your request, then another thirty days begins.
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  Speaker 5: And it's just it's a run out the clock four
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  Speaker 5: corners defense thing. Let me get to four three four
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  Speaker 5: eight eight two four two one seven. Good morning. You're
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  Speaker 5: on the air with Joe. First thing this morning? Who's this?
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  Speaker 17: Good morning?
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  Speaker 2: This is Moscow, Bob lost.
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  Speaker 5: Wid you I say, in the language of your people.
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  Speaker 17: Hey, guess what. I am pretty sure that mister Pritty
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  Speaker 17: had a psychiatric issue and should not have been near
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  Speaker 17: any patient because he was indocrinated, just as the people
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  Speaker 17: from the Jonestowns massacre in the brand S Pavilions by
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  Speaker 17: David koresh All, these leftist protesters out there are psychiatrically
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  Speaker 17: problem because they've been indoctrinated. Therefore, they should all be
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  Speaker 17: removed of any type of firearmy and not be allowed
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  Speaker 17: to ever ever have one again.
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  Speaker 5: Is that part of the what's the psych book, the
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  Speaker 5: DSV or whatever it's called, the book that tells you
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  Speaker 5: all the psychological maladies? Is that an actual part of
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  Speaker 5: it that says, if you've been part of a cult,
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  Speaker 5: you're suffering indoctrination is a mental health issue.
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  Speaker 17: Yes, it's the same. It's like working, you know, I
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  Speaker 17: worked at a crisis center with kids from ten to
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  Speaker 17: senior citizens in their seventies and eighties for psyche issues.
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  Speaker 17: That's one of the things kids are groomed. Look at
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  Speaker 17: the kids, they're groomed for child abth. They're groomed. Same
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  Speaker 17: thing with all these people that were in these cultist groups.
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  Speaker 21: It's been twenty three minutes.
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  Speaker 2: The First Thing Today on the Talk Media Network by
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  Speaker 19: Maybe something of your own line, so fun.
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  Speaker 5: I know what you're saying, you can't do Eastern that is,
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  Speaker 5: I know you're saying, Joe, I don't recognize this. I
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  Speaker 5: don't I don't remember this in that wonderful Dabney Coleman flick.
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  Speaker 5: I don't remember this being one of the lyrics. No,
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  Speaker 5: this got Dolly Parton canceled of all the people in
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  Speaker 5: all of Christendom. But I use it to remind you
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  Speaker 5: that this is a four hours sucker. Radio Programs that
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  Speaker 5: a physician that said, we do do this for four hours.
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  Speaker 5: If you're part of the group that only gets a
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  Speaker 5: few of the hours, blessings on you forgetting that much there,
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  Speaker 5: and we appreciate every second that we get. But we
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  Speaker 5: have some notable folks coming up later in the program,
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  Speaker 5: like former DHS Secretary Ken Kochinelli. We're going to talk
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  Speaker 5: about redistricting. He's now with the election Transparency Initiative. But
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  Speaker 5: we're also going to talk a little bit about detention
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  Speaker 5: centers and things like that, and what's going on in
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  Speaker 5: Minneapolis there and the mental health ism. By the way,
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: correction and US is self correcting here. The research Department
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  Speaker 5: hadn't jumped on me yet about this. It is the
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  Speaker 5: DSM is the Mental Health Manual, right.
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  Speaker 15: V?
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  Speaker 5: What would what would leave you with the letter V?
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  Speaker 5: At the it's the Mental Health Manual there. So if
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  Speaker 5: you want to get any of this stuff the point
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  Speaker 5: I was making about the four hours, go to Joe
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  Speaker 5: Thomas in the Morning dot com. There's a link to
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  Speaker 5: when we post all this stuff online in our podcast.
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  Speaker 5: you can just get it and listen to the other
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  Speaker 5: hours that you didn't get there as well. But let
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: me get to you at four three, four eight eight
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  Speaker 5: two four two one seven doctor Clark coming up early
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  Speaker 5: beautiful sunrise over Alabama. Doctor Clark, thank you for sharing
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  Speaker 5: that with me. How are you doing.
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  Speaker 25: I'm all good.
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  Speaker 26: And that was a moonset, Joe.
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  Speaker 5: Oh wow, that was a bright moonset. Holy cow. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I've seen some moons at night, but you know.
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  Speaker 25: I think maybe like the frosty air or something magnified
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  Speaker 25: the amount of light or something I don't.
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  Speaker 5: There you go, refractions and contractions. So what's on your mind?
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  Speaker 25: Well, I read an article this morning. Is up an
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  Speaker 25: American thinker?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, on the uh.
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  Speaker 26: Stuff you're passing in your state of Virginia. There, Joe,
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  Speaker 26: you know, if you're gonna have to get a mobile
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  Speaker 26: truck so you can broadcast on the run, we'll need
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  Speaker 26: some advanced notice on that to where we can get
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  Speaker 26: your set up.
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  Speaker 5: I've always, honestly, I've always wanted one of those, you know,
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  Speaker 5: kind of that Charles Kralt get you know, get you
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  Speaker 5: a and it's gonna be somewhere. I'd love one of
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  Speaker 5: these big monster, you know, camper trucks, but I don't
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  Speaker 5: think i'd want to drive one. But you know, something
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  Speaker 5: with something in the middle. Maybe you know, one of
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  Speaker 5: those cabovers, you know on a pickup truck, you know
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  Speaker 5: that kind of thing, and just set up a little
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  Speaker 5: broadcast booth. I don't need it of space for this stuff,
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: and just go around places. I mean, we loved going
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  Speaker 5: to Conquered for the two hundred and fiftieth are and
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: it was just a blessing to be able to actually
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  Speaker 5: broadcast from rights Tavern. But some of these places I
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  Speaker 5: go to, like the Consumer Electronics Show. I was doing
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  Speaker 5: my show from the hotel room because the convention center
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  Speaker 5: was not open at two o'clock in the morning when
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: the show went live on the East Coast, so I
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: had to come up with something else. It would be
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: great to have the camper and the parking lot fired up,
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: you know, put the coffee maker on, put on some
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: first free in the morning coffee, and just wherever we
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: needed to be. But'll be careful. You know, everything is
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: going to have a sales tax. If they come after
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: you in Virginia they want a license. Yeah, I mean
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: everything you name it. Renting a storage facility is going
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: to come with sales tax. The rent on your property
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: might be included in sales tax. Renting an office space,
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: you would pay sales tax on it. This the insatiability
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  Speaker 5: you know of this is you know, Linda Lovelace has
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  Speaker 5: nothing on this kind of insatiability. There there's an analogy.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, could we do that with Spanburger. She
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  Speaker 5: would be offended, I think. But the insatiability to raising
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  Speaker 5: the income tax from six to thirteen point eight percent
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  Speaker 5: more than doubling people's income taxes and catfished everybody catfished
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  Speaker 5: the whole and people asked, well, what are your plans. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: we want to make things affordable for Virginians again, And
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: that's all they said. And nobody followed it up before
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: because you know she wouldn't come on shows like this, Uh,
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: because you know you got a campaign. This is what
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: the echo chamber winds up being.
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  Speaker 25: Well, I figure if when they'd occur, you an enemy
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  Speaker 25: of the state, you might have to have a mobile
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  Speaker 25: unit just so you can take it on the run.
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  Speaker 5: No, they'll they'll come after it. And and I can't
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  Speaker 5: count on David Carr at the FCC to protect me
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  Speaker 5: because I have a right to this frequency that I'm on.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: So do the owners of all the stations that carry us.
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  Speaker 5: They have a right to that frequency. It's a deed.
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  Speaker 5: We paid money for this frequency, and the FCC is
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  Speaker 5: supposed to protect it, not act like they invented it.
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  Speaker 5: And and David Carr is not going to defend me
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  Speaker 5: when Abigail Spanberger makes a noise saying we need to
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: shut down some of these radio stations exactly.
• 50:36
  Speaker 25: So you can always come to Alabama where were deverired
• 50:40
  Speaker 25: defend our rights.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: So anyway, but on your mind otherwise.
• 50:45
  Speaker 25: Yes, My favorite thing that I saw that your state
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  Speaker 25: legislature is doing is all school children.
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  Speaker 26: Will be taught that what occurred on January sixth was,
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  Speaker 26: in fact that insurrection.
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  Speaker 5: And nothing else either. By the way, there's no option
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  Speaker 5: for and nothing even beyond or after, So teachers think
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  Speaker 5: about this for a second. So January sixth as a
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  Speaker 5: date in history, and we'll go further into this, but
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  Speaker 5: just as an abstract. And we're not the only state
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  Speaker 5: with laws like this. I checked when I saw this.
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  Speaker 5: There are nineteen states already in the United States with
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: rules on how January sixth is taught in their classes. Wow,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think Alabama is one of them. I'll run
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  Speaker 5: the list down a little bit. But you cannot even
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  Speaker 5: go into why January sixth was a date frozen in time.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: It was just some arbitrary date Donald Trump picked to
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  Speaker 5: have a mass invasion of the Capitol building and you know,
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  Speaker 5: go after the lives of these sanctified legislators and commit insurrection.
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  Speaker 5: That's all you can say. You can't explain why January
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  Speaker 5: sixth was a date that they chose, which was the
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  Speaker 5: history of challenging election results what's her name from California.
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  Speaker 5: It was regular every time a Republican won the presidency,
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  Speaker 5: she'd be up there because she's one hundred and seven. Now,
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  Speaker 5: I think she questioned whether Dwight Eisenhower's electoral college results
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  Speaker 5: were righteous. But this is January sixth was constitutionally the
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  Speaker 5: date that Congress ratified the electoral college results, and they
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  Speaker 5: were allowed to question them. They're not now because in
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  Speaker 5: the next year, Congress took that privilege away, and now
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