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#307 - Nick Cannon · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yoseidel Yasha Man, Nick Cannon aka Dresse Jackson, AK mister Popular,
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  Speaker 1: ak Yo, Daddy's Daddy.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting it in. This is the Bootleg keV Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. It's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Bootlet keV Show. A big special guest in here, big
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  Speaker 3: inspiration of mine. One of the hardest working guys in entertainment,
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  Speaker 3: he also has quite possibly the most impressive hit list
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  Speaker 3: of all time. And here he go. Nick, I hit
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  Speaker 3: it first, Cannon.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, what's good man, I'll take the intro, I'll take it.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, belove it?
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  Speaker 3: You're good. I told you this because you call on
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  Speaker 3: the show. I was like, I'm just glad you ain't
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  Speaker 3: a powering the six anymore because now we can have
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  Speaker 3: you on the show.
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  Speaker 2: I know, man, but that's see I was talking a
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  Speaker 2: big about that. It was always love.
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  Speaker 3: It was always love.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, like that's old mentality.
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  Speaker 1: Like first of all, everybody owns all of their content
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  Speaker 1: now everybody like so the people move like dinnahs.
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  Speaker 2: So like this is our gang and that's your gag.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you. We gotta let that.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta let that ship go.
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  Speaker 3: Listen. I totally agree with you. The problem is is
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  Speaker 3: that there are people who are in charge.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. We can't be maneuvering like
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  Speaker 1: well paid servants, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Like you know there's like like my thing is, it's
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  Speaker 3: like damn, like I fuck with like so many people
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  Speaker 3: at Power one six.
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  Speaker 1: But that was like, first of all, I never like
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  Speaker 1: I didn't work for Power one six. I was with
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  Speaker 1: partners with them.
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  Speaker 3: So I heard did they give you a restaurant or
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  Speaker 3: something like that?
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  Speaker 2: A little we make some money, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, like we got to stop
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  Speaker 1: thinking like especially I encourage anybody who wants to get
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  Speaker 1: into space of media entertainment, specifically podcasts and ready own
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  Speaker 1: your ship. Because when you do that, then if your
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  Speaker 1: boy got a podcast, I got a pocket, then we
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  Speaker 1: can get money together. But this mentality of like this
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  Speaker 1: is my station, that's your station.
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  Speaker 3: That's when you don't own the radio stations.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's always like you gang banging on blocks
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  Speaker 2: your don't own.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, it's like you could wake up tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: and the company can be like we're flipping.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you got to go get a job.
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  Speaker 1: Over at the places and then doesn't even exist anymore, right, Yeah, so,
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  Speaker 1: but that's why I was always love like it was
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  Speaker 1: never like but I mean, like you said, the powers
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  Speaker 1: that be, because some of them get still stuck in
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  Speaker 1: that old school mentality of like the competition is how
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  Speaker 1: we come on.
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  Speaker 2: Man, we all can get numbers, we all can do.
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  Speaker 3: I think, what is something you learned from? Because you've
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  Speaker 3: done radio a lot. I don't think people understand you
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  Speaker 3: were on moving to New York. You still have the
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  Speaker 3: syndicated show with.
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  Speaker 1: Always my syndicated show, my syndicated countdown a decade.
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  Speaker 3: Right, You've been doing that for a long time. But then, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what did what did you learn from the
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  Speaker 3: Powerwin O six experience, because it obviously there was upstairs downs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think again, like I always say,
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  Speaker 1: like you got to move like a boss at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, and even more so like a leader.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like we know what that brand means to
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  Speaker 1: our community, to hip hop and.
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  Speaker 3: So the legendary radio station.
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  Speaker 1: So that was the whole purpose for me even being
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  Speaker 1: over there, wanting to be like this. I was had
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  Speaker 1: a daily talk show at the same time I had,
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  Speaker 1: you know, mass singer whil'n out. So it was just
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  Speaker 1: another outlet for that I felt like was a real
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  Speaker 1: uh probably like fixture in the community that I could
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  Speaker 1: really harness. And even at time there was times where
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  Speaker 1: I was you know, they asked me if I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to buy the station now once once we looked into it,
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  Speaker 1: there's no point in, like, you know, it's probably overpriced. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you don't need to pay for dinosaurs, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean when you can go create something of your own,
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  Speaker 1: uh and invest the same amount of money and you
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  Speaker 1: only one hundred percent uh and you don't have to
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  Speaker 1: worry about you know, satellite towers.
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  Speaker 3: And so they offered you to buy it. Yeah, oh wow,
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  Speaker 3: what what did you could jellus? How much it was?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was six No, no, no, not that much.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really it was less. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just somewhere around around that area. So but
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  Speaker 1: to say all of that, it's like, you know, even
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  Speaker 1: the things like I've been able to you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: probably one of the few people in entertainment that I
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  Speaker 1: was able to have deals at you know, NBC and
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  Speaker 1: Universal and Fox and Viacom and all those places at
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  Speaker 1: the same time.
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  Speaker 3: It is kind of crazy yeah, I'm on every network. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so give me your okay. So when you're doing mornings
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  Speaker 3: and you have the TV show and you have mass Singer,
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  Speaker 3: and you have wild'n Out and you have.
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  Speaker 1: Don't forget my new number one show, Celebrity Prank Wars
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  Speaker 1: with Kevin number one, and you have the biggest family
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  Speaker 1: family know to man me NBA young boy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he just had number eleven. He had number eleven.
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  Speaker 1: He might catch me because he started earlier than me.
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  Speaker 1: I had no kids. I was thirty.
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  Speaker 3: So what do you do in terms of like just scheduling,
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  Speaker 3: making sure you don't go crazy, making sure you have
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  Speaker 3: time for the kids, making sure you have time for yourself. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I can't even imagine.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell everybody it's like energy management. Man.
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  Speaker 1: If you see me, I'm cool, calm, collected. I know
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  Speaker 1: how to manage my energy probably better than most.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't move off of emotion.
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  Speaker 1: Or other people's energy because people think it's time management.
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  Speaker 1: But time is, you know, a man made construct that
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  Speaker 1: we all subscribe to. Like you can get enough of
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  Speaker 1: that you can get, but it's having the right team
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  Speaker 1: and knowing how to delegate your energy. Because I've been
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  Speaker 1: in situations where I've overly stressed myself. I've been in
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  Speaker 1: situations where there was literally too much on my plate
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  Speaker 1: and people were just constantly pulling at me. But when
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  Speaker 1: you know how to manage your energy, I think that
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  Speaker 1: that allows you to do more than the average human being.
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  Speaker 3: So it's about the key would be delegation.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of it, I mean, how to delegate them.
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  Speaker 1: And also because we got some people who delegate in
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  Speaker 1: a way that like it's stressful and it's toxic, but.
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  Speaker 2: Like you just got to allow people.
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  Speaker 1: You know people's strengths, you know people's weaknesses, you know
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  Speaker 1: the ability to say I have this much to give,
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  Speaker 1: then I gotta go recharge.
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  Speaker 3: Right. And also so much like everything you do, you're
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  Speaker 3: you're you have to be there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's not like.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing stuff you can do from the crib or
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  Speaker 3: you can like do on a laptop. No, you have
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  Speaker 3: to literally be in front of a camera.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But like somebody asks me or tell me, like, man,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have no free time. It's like all my
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  Speaker 1: time is free times perspective, it's how you look at it.
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  Speaker 1: Everything I do, I love it. So my vocation is
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  Speaker 1: my vacation. So it's a situational where, like I would
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff I get paid to do, I
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  Speaker 1: would pay to do, you know what I'm saying. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's that's really the nature of what I
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  Speaker 1: talk about, managing your band with your spiritual band, within
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  Speaker 1: your energy because from that standpoint, we make time for
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  Speaker 1: the things we want right and you know, as a father,
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  Speaker 1: you got to make that a number one priority. But
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  Speaker 1: then everything else is really just a big ass hobby.
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  Speaker 3: Wild'n Out is season twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we coming up on twenty right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy because I do feel like when we think
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  Speaker 3: of like the most successful TV shows ever, I think
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  Speaker 3: that like wild'n Out has surpassed so many of the
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  Speaker 3: shows that we look back on and be like this,
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  Speaker 3: Like I think sometimes it's almost like when Lebron's playing,
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  Speaker 3: we don't realize we're watching Lebron. And I feel like,
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  Speaker 3: one day when wild'n Out's over.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna be like, damn, wild Out was on for
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  Speaker 3: X amount and was heat and there was all these
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  Speaker 3: moments with all these fucking legendary artists, just so many
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  Speaker 3: just memorable and the.
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  Speaker 1: Fact that was dope about it because you bring up
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  Speaker 1: a good point of like what the definition of what
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  Speaker 1: a TV show is? We know, because that's our generation.
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  Speaker 1: The kids today don't even understand it to be a
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  Speaker 1: TV show. They understand it's like TikTok YouTube viral sensation.
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  Speaker 2: Kids.
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  Speaker 1: Kids used to come up to me and be like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 1: I love your show. It's my favorite show. Now kids
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  Speaker 1: come up to me like, man, I love your videos. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I love I love you know, like they I love
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  Speaker 1: the content, Like they literally say that. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: nobody watches the big shit on the wall anymore. It's
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  Speaker 1: like it's in their hands on the iPads. And we're
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  Speaker 1: probably more successful online than we've ever been than we
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  Speaker 1: were on television.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the show is like very great for work. Today's
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  Speaker 3: like environment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, clips yep, the small we know how the compartmentalize
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  Speaker 1: and break up those clips for you know, all day long.
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  Speaker 2: And so one of the most I think we're.
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  Speaker 1: Probably the biggest UH digital imprint in UH the whole
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  Speaker 1: entire paramount network that includes Comedy Central, that includes b
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  Speaker 1: T Yeah, wilding Out. And we have more followers on YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: more followers on TikTok uh than anything else in the
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  Speaker 1: paramount ecosystem.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe the Daily Show might be like close on
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  Speaker 2: one of those.
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  Speaker 3: Can you give me some insight on like the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of wilding out, like the break, like you're like, this
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  Speaker 3: is your baby, this is your your you know your idea.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I was just really trying to give my
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  Speaker 1: friends jobs. Like at the end of the day, like
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  Speaker 1: people didn't know who Kevin Hart and A Crockett, d
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  Speaker 1: Ray Davis.
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  Speaker 2: Made a lot of these guys, they didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want that, but you helped shine, You helped
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  Speaker 3: put them on the National Show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And because actually they were all my
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  Speaker 1: my colleagues and counterparts.
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  Speaker 3: They were they were you were that.
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  Speaker 2: I came up.
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  Speaker 3: You were doing a little stand up at a certain
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  Speaker 3: pointing time where I started, as you started in San
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  Speaker 3: Diego doing stand up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I started doing stand I mean I started, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I started in that spat. I started in music obviously
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  Speaker 1: when I was even younger, but stand ups will put
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  Speaker 1: me on the mat, got me my first deal at
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  Speaker 1: Jamie Fox's Lallapalooza uh in Atlanta, and then from.
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  Speaker 3: There by the way, willis Jamie Fox.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, always I'm believing in one hundred percent complete healing.
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  Speaker 2: That's my brother right there. We've been playing strong.
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  Speaker 3: For I might need security. One of the best specials ever. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, he's the most talented man on the planet.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred say, I say it's either him or Chris Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the one and two.
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  Speaker 1: Those are one and two and nobody else, because Chris
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been able to spread his wings the way Fox has.
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  Speaker 3: And I look at Chris is like, Chris is really
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  Speaker 3: good at basketball. Yeah, and he can paint a mural yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fact like all the other think about, like Jamie
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  Speaker 1: is amazing at football, stand up a classical piano impression
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  Speaker 1: between the two and both.
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  Speaker 2: Of them like the nicest human beings in the world.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like it's you want to go to either
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  Speaker 2: party at either one of those dudes out.
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  Speaker 3: So for whiling out, you kind of come from the
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  Speaker 3: stand up background. These are your friends, These are guys
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  Speaker 3: who you consider your peers, and for you, it was like, what,
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  Speaker 3: there's not an outlet.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was doing movies and music and stuff at
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  Speaker 2: the time, so I left.
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  Speaker 3: Them cost the thing was already on. You were you
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  Speaker 3: were popping.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and those couchs looking at me like, yo, man,
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  Speaker 1: spread the love. So I was like, all right, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go to the MTV because I was I was
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  Speaker 1: hosting TRL doing all that stuff. So I went to
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  Speaker 1: them and they didn't understand it at first. They was
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  Speaker 1: like you want to do what? And I was like, nah,
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  Speaker 1: we got this comedy club and we do this this.
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  Speaker 1: Then it's like they ain't really understand it. So I
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  Speaker 1: was like, all right, I rent the comedy club on myself,
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  Speaker 1: got some cameras together, uh, called everybody to the club,
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  Speaker 1: and we shot that ship. And therefore I owned the
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  Speaker 1: IP since the day one.
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  Speaker 3: So you bankrolled the demo, shot the demo yourself, facts,
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  Speaker 3: and then shopped it around and.
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  Speaker 2: Then then now I had. Now I had all of
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  Speaker 2: the equity and the negotiating power.
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  Speaker 3: Because how so for people who don't know, I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people are a little bit more familiar
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  Speaker 3: with like record deals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you're trying to get a TV show deal,
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  Speaker 3: usually a production company comes in with the money to
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  Speaker 3: pay for the pilot, and that's their excuse to take
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  Speaker 3: ownership exactly. But if you handle that yourself, then you
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  Speaker 3: can at the table. I already got this handled. Yeah
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  Speaker 3: you want it or not?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? And then that everything from the wild and Out
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  Speaker 2: logo to all this it was all owned by me.
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  Speaker 3: Was it a scary situation where they tried getting you
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  Speaker 3: up out of here and it felt like they took
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  Speaker 3: you off TV?
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  Speaker 2: It was like it was got of cancel me like
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  Speaker 2: at least once a year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, no, I know, there was the time
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  Speaker 3: I think it was a couple of years ago and
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  Speaker 3: you had the interview. I forget, I don't even want
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  Speaker 3: to get into this specific, but that's I mean, that
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  Speaker 3: was a learning moment that you went through with everybody.
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  Speaker 2: One percent, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the thing, Like moments like that either show
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  Speaker 1: show your toughness and show how quickly you could fold.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I think Martin Luther King said it best,
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  Speaker 1: is like the test of the true test of a
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  Speaker 1: man's character isn't in times of comfort, but in times
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  Speaker 1: of controversy. So that just showed you how solid I
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  Speaker 1: was to every community to where where most people instantly
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  Speaker 1: or they waiver, and where like I leaned into it
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  Speaker 1: and then began to understand and really focus not only
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  Speaker 1: on my business and saw who was riding with me
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  Speaker 1: and who wasn't. But then at the same time, any
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  Speaker 1: wrongdoings that I made, I corrected as every man should.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we need to be more. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of crazy because we don't give a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people that opportunity anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean I got another show that I'm
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  Speaker 1: creating right now that I already created, that we already shot,
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  Speaker 1: that'll be debuting pretty soon. But literally does what deals
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  Speaker 1: with that? I mean, I coined the frame counsel culture.
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  Speaker 1: It's not about cancel culture. It's counsel culture. Don't cancel
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  Speaker 1: on another council one, and that to take your brother
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  Speaker 1: and show them how to shake it up and how
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  Speaker 1: to really get it right and give them an opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: None of us are greater than God, and so we
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  Speaker 1: should allow him to be the one to judge.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like in a time where like we're
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  Speaker 3: so at least perceived, I think we have a lot
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  Speaker 3: more in common than people would like to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they always said there's more.
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  Speaker 3: There's likeilarities, they're differently small things that people are far
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  Speaker 3: apart out. But everything else. Everyone loves their family, Everyone
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  Speaker 3: wants to be safe. Everyone wants to be prospered. But
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  Speaker 3: if you don't agree on this or this, it's like
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  Speaker 3: you got to hate the other person.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, and that's I mean a Buddhist
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  Speaker 1: mentality is we are one without uh, one without none,
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  Speaker 1: and none without one. So and that idea of like
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  Speaker 1: we got we need each other to operate. And if
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  Speaker 1: we keep allowing the powers that be to split us up.
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  Speaker 3: It really feels like it is some powers to be
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  Speaker 3: ship broa because.
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  Speaker 1: That's how they control you. They control you, divide and conquer.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they would really understand. Like again, like we
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  Speaker 1: got more similarities and differences and the ship that we
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  Speaker 1: bicker about. I mean, that's one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I say while I was the most progressive show on television,
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  Speaker 1: because we can have people from two different walks of life.
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  Speaker 1: We can have someone from the Jewish community something from
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  Speaker 1: the Ransom community.
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  Speaker 2: And they go at it and hug it out at
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  Speaker 2: the end.
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  Speaker 1: We can have a homophobic person and a transgender person
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  Speaker 1: go at it and hug it out at the end.
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  Speaker 1: Because but they talk the most shit, say the most
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  Speaker 1: stereotypical offensive stuff. But when you say it's up all
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  Speaker 1: the guides of family and comedy and humor, we win.
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  Speaker 1: So but when you allow that stuff to be rooted
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  Speaker 1: and hate and therefore you think you better than somebody
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  Speaker 1: else because of your life experience trice versas, that's where
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: shit goes wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's like people will talk out of
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: like people will make mistakes, and I think that's just
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: human nature. So if someone makes a mistake that's not
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: from a hateful place exactly, talk to them.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why they put the racist on pencils. It's
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: like it's like, yo, fuck with earthlings.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: So the new show that you're working on is called
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: it's called Council Culture.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you getting exclusive here because I actually
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: it wasn't supposed to talk about that yet.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: It's something I kind of realized, man that when I
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: was doing my daytime talk shows, like this ain't where
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: the bag is, you know what I mean? All of
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: that Llen money and Oprah money, they came and scooped
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: all of that up.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: So like they kind of got the last of that.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so I went in there, I was like, this,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: no way that this makes sense to make.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: It takes sixteen hours to make one hour and.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: The bandwidth of doing it every day, like.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: It was trying to do radio, Like it was literally
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: draining me. So I had to step away. So I
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: was like, I want to be able to do the
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: same thing, have the same type of impact, but you know,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: consolidated and.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: Do all episodes of season or something.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but really, what even even though on a daily perspective,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: it's like it has to be able to be a
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: part of my lifestyle opposed to me trying to come
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: here and show up for work, like I don't work
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: for nobody, So.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: It's like, if it feels like I got a job,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: then I'm out.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: But the fact that I can actually live my life
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: and document the process and show the process and actually
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: truly help people, and you know, the fact that I
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: go to therapy a few times a week, how can
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I bring that to the table. The fact that you know,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I have great relationships with the mothers and my children,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: and knowing how fascinated intrigue people are by my life,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: how can I offer that in a way to not
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: only I can be open and honest and control my
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: own narrative, but then at the same time, you know,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: monetize it for.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: You talk about like you are. Listen, twelve children, Yes,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: twelve kids.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Obviously you're and counting something they say and counting. Nah,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I think I'm good with my dirty dozen right now.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you something. Do you ever regret not
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: getting Kim Kardashian pregnant?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: You try to go viral?
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I'm just asking. I'm just asking because I look back
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: at your history, and I'm like, man, if there was
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: ever anyone that you could have put one up a
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: bun in the oven, it could have been a billionaire,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: you know what.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I believe that would alone. I'm tired of going viral
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: every week. They already got mad at me about what
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I said about Taylor Swift. Oh you did say christ
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: so I know that's now he says he's gonna get
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: He regrets because how would were Howard was kimming? You dated?
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: We were both like in the mid twenties.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Was this post Love Don't Cost a Thing?
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Or just right after Love Don't such a classic?
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Fucking just like a great movie.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Mah man, it's fun. We're back.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I've been I stepped away from from I kind of
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: make like one movie a year that I own and
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: control but I think I'm gonna dive back into movies
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: in a little bit, like probably in the next five
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: years and kind of get back to that space of
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: like making classic content for our community.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Have you thought about like they're like the lack of
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: good comedies and it's crazy like done, I think cancel culture, yeah,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: or just over sensitizing.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Just we lost all our r rated comedies that made
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: it good comedy. Yeah, Hangup was great.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like since since some Hangover. Yeah, Girls, Trip
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: and Bride'smaids are the only two.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and those are I don't I don't where
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: those I guess those where those are rated comedies.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: But like it's been twelve years since we've gotten like
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: a classic hardcore comedy. Yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: No, I'm even in the sense of, like you said,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to just stuff that even that you know you can
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: sit around and watch it the family too, Like we
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: don't have none of those like family film, we don't
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: have it. We're our forest gumps where you know, like
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: where's the stuff like that?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Everything's like Marvel or yeah.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Like Billy Madison or water Boy like that. Shit.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I remember water Boy opening eighty million dollars this first week,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, Like.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: You know, it's it's kind of crazy because I always think,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: like I'm like someone rich enough hello, uh needs to
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: come along and just be like fuck it.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: You gotta focus on it though.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: That's the thing that to make a good movie, you
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: gotta focus on that shit. Like one, it takes the money,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: but then it also you got to make sure your
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: marketing is together on the post and even like you
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: can't make a good movie without having a great script.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's stuff like that that you just
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: It's like I've done independent films really well too. But
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: then because you can make the greatest independent film in
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the world, but if it don't reach the amount of people,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: then nobody ever really really know except for the festivals
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: that gave you, you know, your little laurels and crests.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: So if you to do a great classic film, you
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: gotta check the boxes from development all the way to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: it's actually in the theaters. So it takes it. It
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: takes to trust me. People ask me all the time
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: and you should do more movies. It's like that's the
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: most time consumer ship out there.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: It's to make a good movie.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Good movie you could put you could put some Hood
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: classic TV ship.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it shouts out to toob I fuck with them heavy,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: but he's running it up.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: But but if you if you want to make some
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: classic ship, if you want to make minutes of society.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Boards in the hood drum line. I love don't cost
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the thing.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I mean like I think, you know, probably for the
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: culture that they did it the right way. I love
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: with what Mike b is doing from you know, I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: feel like creed to go down classics.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I feel like Black Panther go down as classics.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: But anything else for the culture ain't resonated except for
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: like those those Jordans.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Obviously Jordan Peele's putting out some crazy Yeah, but would
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: you horror movie? Yeah? With that? Is that?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Are we are we gonna be talking about? I'm just
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: a question, like I think get out absolutely out for
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: sure out I'm not sure us or.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: What's the the other one?
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Fuck? It just came out, yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, like, but no offense.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, because you only can and what time
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: will tell as well, you know what I mean? Like
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: like people, people didn't really start fucking with love don't
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: cross the thing heavy into back then it was out
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: on home video.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I mean it. They're decent in the in the theaters.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: But then once it was constantly playing that your Auntie
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and your Mama's House all the time, then it became
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a classic. So you know, maybe these films that we're
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: talking about today, but I'm saying the ones that feel like,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you know, we talked about, we talking about Love Jones,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: we talk about do the right.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Thing, We talk about the wood boys in the hood.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: There's none of that ship it's crazy or people try,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: but they come short.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Every time I've come short, you know.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: But it was like, damn, you know why because the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: studio didn't like I made a film called that everybody
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it's a hood classic like school Dance, but everybody was talking.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: About is that the one James is in?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: James Jefferson, Yeah, yeah, but everybody was talking like when
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: we was making it, they was like, oh, this is
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: like the next Friday, because yeah, Pete Day saying, Tiffany Hattish,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Kat Williams, George Lopez, Mike Epps, Kevin Hart, little Duvaut
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: like now we had everybody in this motherfucker and it's
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: hilarious if you watch it. But because Lionsgate didn't market
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: it correctly and they didn't.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: They did, They didn't really know what they had. They
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: just threw that ship out there.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So it's like you got it going, I say, from
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the script to the time, like it's fucking in the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: theaters and like the marketing, all of everything gotta be pristine.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Would you ever try to develop like a scripted like
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: drama or comedy or something like.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: We got some shit, we got some shit coming, Like
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I got it. I got it pretty like I said,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I got deals at all of these difference.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Instead of like I do feel like we don't get
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: it in movies anymore, but we do get it in shows. Yeah,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: we do, and that's old false fire. There's some great
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: comedy shows.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: So I got We've been developing for a while and
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I just you know, I like making more moves and
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: less announcements. But I can I can tell you about
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the ship that we've been cooking up and spending money on.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Is a me E forty and too short, got yay
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: area project? Is that the one Simpson?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Uh no, no, not that one.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: That one's fire like that playing too short?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I heard about it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about this is like a series that
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the three of us are producing. That's gonna be like
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the same way that you see the BMF, the Powers,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the Wise.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: A home for you or you just trying to put
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: it together and then try some things.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I can't talk about right now, but you're fifty cents
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: leaving stars.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: They could use you.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Na hey, that's good business over there.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But I mean, like, I do have a few deal
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: set up around town that allow me to do scripted things,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: so we excited about it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I do feel like what I appreciated about your YouTube
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: show it was Cannon's Class right, Yeah, yeah, I feel
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: like you were doing like a lot of dope, like
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: necessary interviews conversations, and they've kind of gone away.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Well see we launched the Canyons Class again.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I actually kind of never went away, but now even
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: on a bigger level again because now I was doing
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: that before. Podcasting was the thing to do and it
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: was really part of our college career Leman Howard University.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Now, I just love the YouTube channel. I remember when
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: we were one. Yeah, you had some dope episode.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: We back on that too, We definitely, and you'll start
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: seeing that stuff roll back out. It was just I
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: had to get I had to get everything a line
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: because I do have so many shows that I wanted
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: people to recognize and and respect what the content was
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: coming from.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, your schedule on December twenty fifth every year? What
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: are we doing?
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I'm saint nick baby?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Are we bringing everyone to the same crib?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I think I always said I was saying this.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I think that only benefits me, you know what I mean,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: because then everybody has to come to me, And I
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: think that's pretty selfish.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Kids, you got twenty four hours in a day on Christmas.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Just the half Latino ones get Christmas Eve because that's
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: their day.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what they're to your point, you're joking,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: that's the truth, because Abby and her kids.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Bag they celebrate Christmas on the twenty four See you
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: know how this works? Like, yeah, exactly.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: No. To be honest, though, it is really about I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: mean not just it just happened, even agetting with Easter.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you don't you don't necessarily have
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to operate based off of the social construct that everybody
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: else is subscribed to. So we make sure that we
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: celebrate Christmas however long we want to celebrate Christmas. I
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: mean not that late, but I mean like it's a
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it's could be the twenty second. Yeah, you know, they
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: always wonder how Santa Claus can deliver all those presents
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to still get home to Missus Clauses by the morning.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: So it's we move around and I'm I'm festive like that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: As much as holidays, the pagan holidays don't matter to me.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I love what it does for children, So I'm always
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: dressing up. And Chris, it ain't Christmas Day, It's Christmas week,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you know in my house a week.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be a week. Yeah, like we're.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Throwing Easter egg hunts all week long when it's Easter time.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, all the moms and kids live in Cali.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Besides Mariah, she lives in Cali too. Oy. Yeah, I
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: mean she got property every.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Special, but that's usually it is.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: You know, we got we got houses on the and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the west coast, so we everybody's.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: The newer children are all in Cali.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: U currently, I tell you, I got calabasses on lot.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: You just canabasas cannon basses.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Everyone's over there.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Everybody's over there.
• 25:13
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  Speaker 3: each other.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Ralphs and shit, we lit, we tear, we tear, the commons. Up.
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  Speaker 3: are are your kids mom's friends at all?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I never like to generalize because or they or are
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: they at least cordial friend like they don't like the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: ones who like they? I leave that up to them
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: in the narratives in which they share every No, like
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: everybody is like nurturing and loving and respectful enough that
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: they understand what's going on. So nobody got any problems
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: or any negativity. Like we fly on a higher frequency
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: than that. So like, but i't, you know, don't expect
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: everybody to be hanging out together.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: But it's like, listen, I'm just trying to figure because
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of these cults are coldon cult
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Netflix documentaries recently.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Are the cannon cults?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Is the cannon cults of thing you must wear a
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: turbine and bears a term seven.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Let's have at least one base.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: To operate against the Circadian clock.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Nah Man, I think it's it's just I mean, obviously
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I'm probably just more open and honest about my very
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: very transparent about I think look at look at you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: everybody from the Bob Marley's to the Muhammad A. L's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: to the you know, Quincy Joneses of the world. All
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: of these great men have are fathers of many and right.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: But I do think what you did was you did
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: it all at once.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Hey man, the clock is ticket.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: It felt like it was so crazy because like, we
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: do a nationally syndicated radio show every day and I
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: couldn't talk about you on the show because our biggest
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: affiliate was Real ninety two three power six.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And did they literally tell you don't talk about it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I just you know, just shoutut to doc. I ain't
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: fucking with doctors. Of course he is.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: But our kids was playing together when we competition, so
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Be crazy because me and James would be like, fuck,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Nick's having another. I felt like every six weeks there
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: was just a new I think it's it's it's you know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: because all the kids are going to be pretty.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be an interesting upbringing. I mean, I'm
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: pretty sure there will be some challenges, but I think
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: there'll be some beautiful things.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Come Gradua. Put them all in the same school.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping, I mean, in the same area. It all depends,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you know, even some
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: of my kids right now, at home school. So it's like, well,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: we'll figure all of that stuff, but what what will
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: school be in ten years? If you want to be
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: honest with it, you know, based off of the way
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the world is going. So I think, you know, a
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: lot of my kids right now are active in extracurricular
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: activities and sports and stuff, so that probably might become
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: challenging to where you know, they're definitely going to try
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to make a certain simular games on certain days now,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: you know, baseball, basketball, and track overlap, you know what
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I mean. So even sometimes they can't even make it
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to their own games. So it's like it's always going
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: to be something.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I've only been married once tomorrow, Yeah.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, only will be married once. It's only going to
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: happen once.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: So when all this starts first happening, right, does Mariah
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: call you be like what the fuck are you doing? Broh?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Not really we have that type of like type of conversation,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: but she's a little bit more understanding. She's kind of
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: be like, I see you out there making waves, Like
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: she kind of comes from it more from that perspective.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: But there was no I think only sometimes maybe when
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: things in the media get misconstrued or people make up
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: stuff like you.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Got to clear it up?
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got, we got We talk every day, so
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: it be like yo, like it was some wild ship
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: of like saying that we were having like a custody
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: battle or something. I saw that, and it's like I
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: was like, we just was at dinner yesterday. You ain't
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: telling me, you know. But it's like once we kind
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: of do away with all the rumors, because people do
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: like to start rumors and operating that low frequency, but
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: we all we all be on the same phase.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Do you still have the tattoo? Did you cover it up?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I added to it. Shall we say it's my whole?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: That was my only tattoo at one time? Now I remember.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I remember I was like this this guy's outside, Yeah
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: he got the whole.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Mariah Carriers damn right, our game I or nothing that
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: she gave by Ryan Carrey was.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: My as a small child. She was like my first crush.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: So when I saw it, I was like shot out
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: to Nick man it was Brian Jlo And actually my
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: boy ended up being with Jlo Casper. Smart.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Look at these young tin cools out here in these.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Street getting it together. Man. How I want to talk
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: about because I don't feel like you get enough credit
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: in terms of your ear for talent on the music side.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: A girl like Kailani somebody who was signed with you initially,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: her was signed when she was eleven to you too
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: incredible you have like a.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Now she went in Oscars and Grammys and stuff, shouts
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: out the young Gabby.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. How like for you? Like, why do you think
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: you get enough credit?
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: When it comes to the music shit? Because I feel
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: like I think I feel like people obviously listen, you've
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: put out some dope records, but I also feel like
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: people don't really take you serious as an as an
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: artist ever tried to push it well also because I
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: feel like we just see you as.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Doing so many things, and like I came up in
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: a time where you couldn't do more than one thing,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: so I had your pick and choose. So I chose,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, comedy and movies and shit, but
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: so you couldn't do both when I was young.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: But what's dope is that I was a DJ and.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: A producer, like all through high school, so I didn't
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: really I never wanted to be in front of the camera.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: So throughout my career I've written and produced records that
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I got platinum records all day long. But it's just
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: like I never was like, this is me looking and
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: paying attention to me even when it came to the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: artistry stuff. I never was really on that. So what
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I've done now, just because obviously the spotlight is hot,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I created a new show for BT called Future Superstars
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: and it's a tour as well.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: So so you just were on tour with us, all
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: So the fact that now the television show will show
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that journey. They will show you know, me as a
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: music man and show me in the space of talent
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: discovery or show me me as a producer and all
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: of that type of stuff. So I'm excited about that
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that wave of my career because it.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Has I haven't talked about it.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: It has been the afterthought a lot of times, even
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: though I've been doing you know, I make all the
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: music on wild'n Out, you know what I mean, Like
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I it's a I'm a musician's musician. So that's where
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: like the fact that you know I could play drums, piano, guitar,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: all of that stuff, I've never really been like, oh well,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: look out, well I rhyme these words together.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Shouts out to everybody who does that.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: But that was never like my main focus because I
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: was more about creating movements and creating opportunities. So I'm
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: glad now that I get the opportunity to kind of
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: take that side of my career.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Seriously, when you have like someone like her, you sign
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: her as a kid, sign her as a kid or Kaylanie?
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Was she signed you before she was eighteen? Yeah?
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was right before she finished high school.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: What was the name of the group that went on
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: tour with Tech nine psych Woord Druggies that kid passed away?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan ba address is soul Man.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: That was my man, super But do you like, like
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: you let them out of their deals that the deals
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: run their course.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not even one of them dudes, Like everybody else
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: around me wants me to be one of those dudes,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Like take the credited sign on it, you need your
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: logo on it. I'm like, look, give me the credit
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: when you want to give me the credit.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Other than that, it's cool, Like I'm a handshake type
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: of person. I don't want nothing from you except to
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: see you win. So that's a rare thing in this game.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: But it's like I always tell the artists that I
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: rock with, Look, I'm gonna be rich whether you make
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: it or not.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Like, so I don't need like those ideas.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: It is like I don't need anything from you, Like
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I'm cool help you out.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: So all I want to let me help you. I'll
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: give you advice and see how you run.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: But you know, obviously a lot of people think that
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I should, I should be taking percentages and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: doing all of that. So usually I only ask for
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: you know, ask back for the money that I put
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: in if you're if you're stable enough to do that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: But I don't even ask.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, these major labels still owe me,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: owe me checks for you know, the artists that I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: kindly just gave them. So but I just I did
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: that because I wanted to see those artists when and
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: didn't want them to get into a deal in debt.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: So I can always step away.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: But you know those big record execs, you know, you
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: know who you owe.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: You some money?
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Absolutely yes for her, and I mean if they look
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: up the paperwork. But I mean I'm good with all
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: of those people just based off of the But I definitely,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: like I said, I never wanted anything from them, right, Like,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I always wanted them to succeed, And even the arrangements
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: that we made with various management and various record labels,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I'll be I'll step back now
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: that I know they're in good hands. You know, I'm
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: off to the next thing, because I really don't want
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: anything from anybody. But when those major systems who make
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars off.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Of these artists, like, yeah, let me get my investment back.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, at least give me the money that
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I spent to bring them to you.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: So, you know, but again I ain't that's small paper count.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Was there anyone who you almost signed that it got
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: right to the finish line? But for whatever, Yeah, a couple.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Of people like Becky G.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I remember Becky g early on, you know she was
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: she was like a little fourteen year old girl rapping.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so many people.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, because I used to run Teen Island at death,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: jam l A. Reed put me a charge of all
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: of the teen acts and you know, obviously the it was.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: It was a cool roster. It was a group I
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: created called the school Girls. Artist named Aaron Fresh, who
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: was super dope, and we had an arsenal of artists
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and I was making I was putting them all in.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: The Gabby was a part of that as well. We
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: put them all on in these Nickelodeon movies that we
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: were making. And the first the star at the time
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: and the one that obviously the biggest act on Teen
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Island he just was bubbling up the internet was this
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: young kid named Justin Bieber who.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: The rest is history.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Really, the whole Teen Island budget just folded then went
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: into Beaver's career and it's the Justin Bieber that we
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: know to this day.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: So was that prior to him linking with Usher It
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: was during.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: The same time, same time that feel like it was,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: like I said, te he got the deal in the building,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: but as you you know.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: They upstreamed him quick.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So like.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I think the Nickelodeon movie that we put on, it
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: was Justin's first thing ever on television, so in the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: first movie and stuff that he had ever did, because
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: before then he was just this dope little kid from
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: YouTube that they were about to put out a record
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and all that, and so I was like, yo, he
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: about to go and then he he he went.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: He went, can you give for people who are watching
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: this who want to get involved in making original content,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: or maybe they want to try to figure out how
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: to get an idea they have for a TV show
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: going or something like that, but maybe they might not
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: necessarily have the relationships, the resources, whatever it is, what
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: would be some advice you would give them?
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Don't stop, I mean to think about like everybody and
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: do all of this literally from their phone. That's even
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I'm excited about launching a
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: daily canning because it's like it's literally from your phone
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: if need be, Like the fact you can make millions
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: of dollars from your phone, so there's no more excuses.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Back in the day, I used to have to shoot
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: pilots and rent cameras and stay all of that stuff
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to just to get my ideas out. Now you can
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: do the same level of content from your phone. Like
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: if you listen to DC Young Fly story man he
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: was he didn't even have a phone. He had to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: steal somebody's phone and make the content to you know,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: now do is a millionaire in a household name, So
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: it's like there are no excuses. You could do it
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: from the trap you could do it from your projects.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: You could get you know, the homie WATSOI Kwan. He's like, dude,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I do everything on my phone. Everything you see is
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: edited on my iPhone. These are the two apps I use.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: There's no excuse.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: You know that was somebody you know, I saw his movement.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: We gave him opportunity on wild'n Out, So it's like
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: there's no excuses out there. Talk about the new radio
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: show Daily Canning. Man, it's a new platform. It's on
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: a Yeah Yeah, yeah so, which is owned by Amazon,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: so we over there cooking.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: But it's like it's beauty.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: It's reinventing radio and kind of bringing social media and
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: podcasting all into the same form. So it's dope because
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: in the same way, like I'm always I remember when
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Twitter first popped off, I remember when TikTok was musically
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I was in there, and like, I feel like, I
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: feel like the same buzz is going on now with
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: these ideas of like community and we've seen it pop
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: with Clubhouse, but I feel like AMP is even taken
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: to another level because now you're allowed to have your
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: own show and your own content and your own brand,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and they're empowering you like, through the system of Amazon,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: so you know, it's no more talking at people as
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: talking with people. So everybody can have a show, everybody
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: can have listeners. So that's how we rocking, you know,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, six am to nine am.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: So you're doing that Monday through Friday, six to nine
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: live live, what the fuck? And this is with Abby?
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's gonna be on there too. Shout out
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: to Abby DJ Abby de la Rossa.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: She's playing music. Yeah, oh so she's playing music your hosting.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's part of the show too, but you
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: got to have her talk with that rat voice.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she's up, but she she runs it.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: She's the musical director as well, so she's she's getting
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: it in.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Abby for people who don't know, you're
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: to your kids she had twins, Yeah yeah, yeah. She
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: she been on radio for a long time.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Started she was a star before before the cannon.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like you were like yo.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she she's a master in this space. If anything,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I need her more than she needs me in this space.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: So that's six to nine wilding out. Then the new
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: show with Kevin Hart where you're you're pretty much. It's
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: kind of like filling a space that has been vacated
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: for a very long time. Because back in the day
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: we had punked.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah before that candy camera, uh, celebrity bloopers and practical
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: jokes and all that stuff. But now we just did it.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: You know, everybody knows me. And ever since we got money,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: we started playing pranks on each other, right uh, and
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you know that's what rich friends do to each other.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: So we wanted to be like, Yo, we could, we
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: should turn this into a TV show and let the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: world in on it, because I mean, we were doing
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: it through social media already, but now it's a number
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: one show on e Yo.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: You mentioned you being rich. You have all the money.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: You don't leave no money for nobody else.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Now I'm at this stage my life where I'm trying
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: to get everybody else. It's lonely at the top, baby, like,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I want my friends to be rich too. So that's
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: always been the concept. So now I'm at the stage
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: it ain't. I don't care about making.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Money no more.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: I want I want some financial friends. Financial literary literacy
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: advice from Nick Cannon, Yes, give me, give me a
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: few gems, some tax listen I have lots.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Of babies, and instead of giving them the money, create
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: trust in their name. So by the time the eighteen
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: year old their CEOs of their own company and it
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: could be whatever the company they want to be.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: And you finance it. So now you birth the business.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: And also, isn't there some sort of like account that
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: you can put a certain amount of money in for
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: each kid? That's an account, it's a tax ran off
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: every year.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Well that don't fuck with irs. We ain't trying to
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: get no tax, right. I give all my money to
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: where it's.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Supposed to be.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: You pay taxes, yeah, absolutely, but no, but see what
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: it is. You got to understand you got to have
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: your tax money make money. But we'll get into that
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: another conversation. But I'll give the government everything they ask for.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Your tax money make money.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, so you again, I give the government everything they
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: ask for.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I'm just really I get out of it, like Nick,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, listen, Nick, I'm sarting to do pretty good
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: right now. I really just need some advice not to
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: pay I.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Mean honestly that that's don't ever play with the I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: r s oh, I'm not trying to No, fuck that, Okay,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: because that's where they go. You see that the biggest
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: gangsters in the world what they imprisoned.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: For tax evasion exactly. So shout out to Wesley Snipe.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Do not play like give them the money that they
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: ask for, but learn how to how to get your
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: money and operate and give them everything that they need.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: But there's ways to actually if you're a wise business man,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: you got good business man.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: There's like there's stuff in the tax school you can
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: take advantage of it.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but see like I make and not to get
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: it to like I make so much money that like
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: all of that that that concept of oh or tax
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: write offs, that's only for when you when you're in
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: a certain level, when you make more, when you pay
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: more in taxes than most people make in a lifetime.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Just you always hear how like Jeff Bezos doesn't pay
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: taxes stuff.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: But that's actually that Yeah, that's not what they're So
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: what they're saying is there's infrastructure set up.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a perfect.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Example, like and that's it was probably gonna get a
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: little too deep. But when you get into like the
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: world of like lobbyists, in the world of like even
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: nonprofits in that sense, to where there's levels you can
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: give an abundant amount of money to things that you
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: really care.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: About, and and and that you'd rather do that than
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: give it to the I R. S or And that's legal.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you can give you can you can have
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: charitable philanthropic efforts where you can give hundreds of millions
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: of dollars.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Away to education, to childcare too. Uh.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: And you would rather do that than give it to you?
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because and and you're saying that's not you're saying, hey, government,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: let me do what you're doing, right, You know what
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: It looks like you would rather spend your tax money
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: on stuff that you care about exactly. So what lobbyist
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: is Nick Cannon? What are we lobbying for? Nick?
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Well? See, that's where you know, I feel.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Like nobody knows where you are on the political spectacs.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: And that's how it should Yeah, that's how it should be,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Nick Cannon.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: You're like in a enigma.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I let you know. I'll let them live how
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: they want to live.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Yo. Did you ever regret bringing all the wilding out
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: boys into your beef with Eminem?
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: No? That was amazing.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: You had you dragged all these guys, and now all
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: these toxic mountain dude drinking cargo, short wearing mfs.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, your attention is my currency, baby, keep it going.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: All of those guys are a lot more popular now
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and than they were before they started. And that was
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was all again, that was all the media.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: That was just trying to get people to watch Wilding Out.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: You shot a music video for that, Oh, we shot several. Yeah,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: we were on the set of Wilding Out. But the
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: logos is all in the back.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Do you think MGK be Eminem in their battle? What?
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: What? It depends on beat?
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: I think I think he won.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I won.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: I don't agree with I don't. I don't agree.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: If somebody picks a fight but doesn't show up to
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the fight.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think he would.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: So so who won? How did he win.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: By not responding?
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: He did respond? First of all, I responded to him.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: He start talking ship first.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: He was on Fat Joe's record talking all.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: How many years and see, but that's the thing everybody thinks.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: I don't I love Eminem. He started sucking with me
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: and then right off like a little bitch like so you.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Think his Eminem didn't reply to your record.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: He did not know he started. He started making records
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: about me.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Said on the Fat Joe record, He's.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, something like a lot of ship.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I went on. I was like,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: why are you fucking with me? Like and I know,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: like for it was some shit. He says he's gonna
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: cut my dick off of some weird ship like that,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: like and I was like.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Huh, like that was years ago.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: So then you replied.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, let's have some fun. And
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I had a great fucking time. He got sug on
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: the record.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: It was he was licked shooting on the song. It's
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: from jam he made the record just called in like
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: fucking back in the day, who was that rapper from
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Sacramento X rated?
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: No, but I think it was off of Sport. I
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: mean I love him, I mean I love I mean
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: even so.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: You think you won the battle absolutely like we're talking
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: for the sport.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: He didn't respond.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think he needed to.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: He started it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: See you wanted you wanted the mother Mountain do motherfuckers
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: on Twitter was the greatest.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: While I'm sitting here drinking a fucking energy drink, one.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Of those guys. I didn't. First of all, I didn't.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I would love it if.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I mean he responded with a tweet and all that,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: because that became the narrative. Because if you remember how
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the narrative, I smashed him over the head, people like, oh, ship,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: this ship is hot. Then I gotta look. No, absolutely,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I smashed him over the head. Then I came again
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: and they were like, that's when I brought you know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the Black Squad and all the battle Rappers.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: And then I'm like, this is a little too much.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: They're beating them now, you guys are bullying him.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: That was the thing. And then and then when I
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: did no, that's what they said. They said we were
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: bullying him. He was like, it's three on one. You
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: had to go get.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Battle rap what I said.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Then the third time I started bringing race into it.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Now that's why I went too far. I should have
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Then it just looked like I was I did too much.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I should have stopped at the second record.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: You should have put Benzino on a song. I was, hey,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: that was that everlast just pulled all his fucking.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: But we all know Eminem is the goat and like
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: he's one of them. Yeah, he can.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely, you know, top five. But I think
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Drake is coming for a spot though, Like that's that's s.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's an argument you made Drake, because it's
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: all about numbers, Drake might have passed him and them.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: So then him might not have a fifth spot.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Eminem is a better rapper, though, what is what is
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: your definition of better?
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I mean Eminem is.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: A better word smith. Lyrics, he's better.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I don't all about lyricist, well, I mean we've definitely
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: we've heard lower and storyteller.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: We have heard Drake reference tracks.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: But see, I don't want to get into that, because
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Drake is a better songmaker than the majority of the industry.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: One million percent. Drake will wipe his ass with Eminem
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: as a songmaker.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: But if we're talking about bar for bar, punchline and lyricism,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Drake wordplay even because only thing
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: about because word prey is difficult because wordplay has to
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: do with flow and Eminem is the king of flow.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: You think Drake bar for bar is better than Eminem? Yeah?
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: What was he that? Life?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Strictly if you're if you're because lyrics like Eminem is
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: a great storyteller. Might be one of my favorite storytellers
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: in hip hop, and that's I got him Cube Biggie
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: slick Rick storytelling, and that, to me is probably the
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: most difficult part of hip hop. Sure pock as well.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: You know Brenda's got a baby keep your Oh yeah
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: it see, I don't whole is a great storytelling. Maybe
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: he has a song called Meet the Parents. It's on
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the blueprint too. It's one of the best storytelled records ever.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean just Streets is watching and that
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: whole project. But if we're going to guys who can
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: tell a fucking story, Eminem is probably number one because
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: ain't nobody topping stand, ain't nobody topping. He's good, but
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: he's not consistent with It's not like with lyricism now.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: But Nas did a whole story backwards backwards.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I mean Nas did a whole record as a bullet
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: like creativity is out of here. But if we're talking storytellers,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Eminem is a better storyteller than Drake. But if we're
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: going ooh that bar for Barr, Eminem's never said nothing
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: bar wise.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: That blew my mind.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: What is he said? Hey, listen, I'm just letting you talk,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Mom Spaghetti spoken from a man who lost the battle.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: You care.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I did not lose, and you might not have lost,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: but you didn't win.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I showed up to the fight, motherfucker. You did show up,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: like but and that's that, you know.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I was just in Detroit last week with my man Roy,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: So that's it's all.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, listen, that's that's great.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: But I think if we're talking about the sport of it,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: like to me, hip hop is wrestling, I.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Think MGK won his battle because I think the fact
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: we even questioned it again, I think he had a
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: better song, yes, and I think like he was actually
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: saying shit that people were like kind of thinking, like, yeah,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: this guy just wears fucking stupid sweatpants. He's been wearing
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: the same Jordan jumpsuit for twenty five years.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: But I think I think.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: MGK made the same mistake that I made, that we
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: were probably a little too excited into over zealous that
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: we got to battle with the gleamed into it that
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: we got to get in the ring with one of
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the best to ever do it right, I'm I ain't
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: gonna for I was excited.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, he's paying attention.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Let's go, We're gonna get so many whild out like,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: because the whole goal was to get attention. I mean,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: that's why everyone's on social media. Don't give it fucked up.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: You all sold your souls.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: The all content. You got a fucking Instagram account.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you sold your soul to the devil a Instagram.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Uh. But so we were and the real goal, and
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I mean it was conversations that we're being had behind
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: the scenes, like we was trying to get them at
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: least to even just give just the step.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Foot on one of your minions, Sen Royce. No, that's why.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: First of all, Royce is a goat by himself, one
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: of the greatest lyrics.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Hey, there's an argument you made lyrically roices.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Just it's good. It's eminem. I'm just saying, if not better,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: damn it.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I said it like like but uh, and I mean
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure m would say the same thing. That's
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the reason why I invested in him and made him
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: his partner and put his arm around him. But uh,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: it's just you know, it is what it is, Like, dude,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: we know what it is. We know these marketing machines
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: are massive.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Yo, You're kind of like Switzerland in so many ways.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: I feel like you're cool with so many people. Have
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: you tried to ever, like bring people together that are
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: having disagreements?
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the time. But the best in the game
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: to do that is Fat Joe. Fat Joe's the one
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: that got me and him too. I mean it wasn't beefing,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: but Fat Joe was like because one it started over
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: his record and then uh and then he was like, man, come.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: On, y'all, y'all was that on the Lean Back remix?
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Now long ago?
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: It was like, what what was doing?
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: It was Joe's last album.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, Eminem is a song that's what started all this ship.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I was on the station at power and people like
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: you heard Eminem. I was like, you mean twenty years ago, there's.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Like no today, Lord Above. I think I heard it
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: one time.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: He brought up all some old ship.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Damn Eminem. Can't let go? Man, I was, do you
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: think he's just sitting at home watching while and out like,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: fuck this monk that's twenty seasons. Fucked this Scott Nah.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I think at this at this point, I think you know.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Because what was it all over? Mariah?
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I guess that's where he started talking ship. And then
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: that's where you know again.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I always never knew what the fuck actually because he
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: would bring up Mariah so much in raps. I was like,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: that was like, what the fuck?
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I think it's a little bizarre. Yeah, you
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: know he's a.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Bizarre Yeah shout bizarre from twelve.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're gonna be coming at you. Funk you cav.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: That's why your boot leg.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: They're gonna be give someone. That's what they'd say exactly.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: That's those guys on.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Twitter that I know do I see the comments all
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: the time. Now, I know why I call you.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: You don't come up with nothing original?
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Who you got in a lot of Nikki battle?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, nik I gotta ask. I mean I love stir
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: it up. That's like I feel, so where if you ask.
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  Speaker 2: Me Kim or Nicky, I'm gonna go Kim.
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  Speaker 3: Really, she didn't write her ship.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you make a good point, but I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: she's still the only reason I say I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: the hierarchy.
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  Speaker 2: Queen nikis.
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  Speaker 3: I think Nikki is the female goat.
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  Speaker 1: She is.
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  Speaker 2: I think, first of all, that's not disrespect. Nikki is
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  Speaker 2: a goat. Whether whatever her ginger.
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  Speaker 3: You know for sure she is one.
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  Speaker 1: Of the coldest artists in the last decade, like we
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  Speaker 1: can't sleep on the like her skill, her pen sonically,
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  Speaker 1: she changed.
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  Speaker 3: The goats on the on records.
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  Speaker 1: That's what exactly. When she came with that Monster, that
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  Speaker 1: was her record and she that was whole Kanye Ross
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  Speaker 1: like she is whatever, gender aside, sex aside.
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  Speaker 3: She she's that bit dope.
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  Speaker 1: She's the only person in that that she could to me,
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  Speaker 1: that has the same level of talent and that you
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  Speaker 1: should even we should even be comparing her.
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  Speaker 2: To is Lauren.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Lauren, those three, that's those, that's
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  Speaker 1: those kind of I agree.
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  Speaker 3: Missy to me, probably out of the three we just named,
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  Speaker 3: has my favorite music. I just think that like when
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  Speaker 3: over Lauren, well, I mean Lauren went out, Missy got more.
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  Speaker 3: Well there was the Score and then the mis Education,
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  Speaker 3: but I just feel like Missy had like a four
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  Speaker 3: or five album run that was just like Jesus right,
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  Speaker 3: But those those are the three she was working with,
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  Speaker 3: timbaland Missy helping right for fucking genuine.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody everybody that's w V missus, but so Missy
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  Speaker 1: Nikki as well, as Lauren, who's your overall top five
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  Speaker 1: all time in no order? I don't make you put
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  Speaker 1: so difficult. I mean we do this on my show
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  Speaker 1: all the time. We break it down in categories. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I was talking like storyteller. But if we're just
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  Speaker 1: saying overall pack, okay, there's like just the most influential
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  Speaker 1: person in hip hop to ever do it, then the
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  Speaker 1: best to ever do it. From the authenticity, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Just like I said, we went from influence, uh, then
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: we went to uh. Then it gets tricky because there's
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  Speaker 1: so many other people that could check this box. But
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  Speaker 1: I need, like, like more the the effect on the
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  Speaker 1: culture with your lyricism.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, that's when you.
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  Speaker 3: Well you already said that top five, but that's what
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm saying because I'm still I'm gonna give you
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  Speaker 1: my last three and this is six to get me six.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: So it has to be between Kendrick, Drake, and m.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: I love that you put Kendrick in there.
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  Speaker 2: It has to. I agree with you man like it
• 1:00:38
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• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: That's fair, like can like Drake might cancel out for
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: him and put him at six. Kendrick might cancel out
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Drake and put him at like, I don't know where
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: those last three gos. Like, well really, because there's only
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: two spots left and I got three people.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I love the it's a good six, so it's a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: respectable six. Yeah, the only person missing is Nas in
• 1:00:58
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• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: would take Cuba?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Would what Cube is done for the culture?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Though? I know CE got bigger record, he's got classics,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Q got way bigger. If the cub did a versus
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:23
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  Speaker 1: I agree because this way ain't got more records. Fifty
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  Speaker 1: Nah? I mean, Dago is a weird city too, because
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  Speaker 1: Right, That's what I'm saying, even more like trying to
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm me. It's a difference. You can beat him.
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  Speaker 3: That's when who you're voting for? Joe biden Er, Donald.
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  Speaker 2: Trump, Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go, you're voting for Trump. I don't even vote
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  Speaker 1: But I fuck with Trump. I like how I like
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  Speaker 3: So you're gonna go with Trump if it's between the
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  Speaker 2: Because Trump I like my racism served right to my face.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of people say that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like people lying to me and then in
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  Speaker 3: It's it's almost like you'd rather have someone tell you
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  Speaker 3: what they're gonna.
• 1:07:14
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• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Because now I got a fair fight, all right, But
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  Speaker 1: don't don't act like you fuck with me and then
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: throw some shit at me like that. So the thing
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• 1:07:28
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• 1:07:30
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• 1:07:36
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  Speaker 3: Said, Hey, you are somebody who could literally be the
• 1:07:42
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  Speaker 2: Says that people are saying that I've been trying to
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: fuck up on purpose, so they don't.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, you could be the president, bro. But
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  Speaker 1: You could grow your I don't want that job, but
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  Speaker 1: people have told me that all my life. But like because,
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  Speaker 1: to be to you.
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  Speaker 3: Might be able to like be the guy who doesn't
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: lie to people for that.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's what Trump tried to do and everybody
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  Speaker 1: turned it on them, and now Moucker might go to jail.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's the thing, Like I did too much dirt
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: that have to like, I mean, I'd rather spilling I'd
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  Speaker 1: rather spend all my money and like uh on children
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: in other countries and building like I can probably do
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: just as much good in the world with just philanthropy
• 1:08:33
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• 1:08:36
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• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: all about ego. It's not about like, it's about like
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: about power, likable. But even until this is like who
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: wants to rule the bit? I don't want that job.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I want to be in charge of war. I don't
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: want to be charge of killing people. Like as much
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: like I love Barack Obama, but I guarantee you he's
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: like yo. If I would have known, I had to
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: make some of the decisions, I make sure.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: He has a hard time sleeping the night because I mean,
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• 1:09:02
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• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: About some of the ship that happened in Africa. I'm like, whoa, whoa,
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• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: to that. We're going too deep anyway.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: But to say, I don't want I don't want none
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: of them problems. So I'd rather spend all my money
• 1:09:16
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• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Let's name some hospitals after me. Let's let's name some library.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I'll buy all of that ship. I do not want
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  Speaker 1: to be in the game of politics. Yo.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see you going to Joe Rogan show.
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  Speaker 2: I love that's my man. You haven't I haven't done
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  Speaker 3: Legendary Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck with your boy, or have Joe come on my show.
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  Speaker 2: We got nothing.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: Bring the fucking podcast back. It was so good. Bring
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• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: All of that's coming, bro. I got you.
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  Speaker 3: You be on the same page. Nick Cannon, I appreciate
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  Speaker 3: you all day, appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go