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Hutton & Withrow: John McClain’s NFL Predictions: Super Bowl Pick, Cam Ward, Titans & Patriots | Hour 2 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: No accident. What's happening with Davo or with the SEC
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: versus what's going on at LSU? And accidents don't wait
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  Speaker 1: for good timing. One bad moment, a wreck, a fall,
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  Speaker 1: a doctor who wasn't paying attention. Suddenly, you're fighting an
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  Speaker 1: insurance company that does this every single day. So that's
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  Speaker 1: why you see the name on the screen. That's why
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  Speaker 1: Clay started Clay Travis Law. He's a Vanderbilt Law grad.
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  Speaker 1: He built a firm around... The idea that people deserve
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  Speaker 1: Based in Nashville, Chad, trusted across the country.
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  Speaker 2: Car and truck wrecks, rideshare accidents, medical malpractice, premises liability,
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  Speaker 2: about it. And here's what they promise. Honesty. They're not
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  Speaker 2: going to sugarcoat your case. You'll hear what it's actually worth,
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  Speaker 2: No case is too big or too small.
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  Speaker 1: Glad you're with us this a.m. on Hutton & Withrow.
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  Speaker 1: We're presented by Hard Rock Bet. John McClain, Pro Football
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame selector, formerly Houston Chronicle, longtime friend of
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  Speaker 1: this show. We've been a day one season ticket holder
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  Speaker 1: of John's. John McClain. John. He's joining us in exactly
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  Speaker 1: 29 minutes. We'll be whenever he joins us. First, it's
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: time for primary complaint. Chad, my primary complaint this week. Charities.
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  Speaker 1: I donated in 2025 to the VFW, the Veteran and
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  Speaker 1: Foreign War. I don't know what the check was for,
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  Speaker 1: but I've sent in something around the holidays. And since then,
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  Speaker 1: they've been paying me back my donation.
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  Speaker 2: Slowly. Slowly.
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  Speaker 1: I've got this in the mail, and I've complained about
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  Speaker 1: this before, but now it's up to another level where
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  Speaker 1: they're not getting the memo, and that's my primary complaint.
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  Speaker 1: Get the memo, check your mentions, and know you need
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  Speaker 1: to answer the question of why. Why are you sending
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  Speaker 1: me money back from your.
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  Speaker 3: Nonprofit?
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  Speaker 1: A $ 1. 50 check, and I've got a note from the
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  Speaker 1: guy who runs this place saying, I've also enclosed a
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  Speaker 1: very important, please find a real $ 1. 50 check, plus they're
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  Speaker 1: giving me nickels that represents real money that someone donated,
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  Speaker 1: and they're giving it back to people that don't benefit
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  Speaker 1: from this charity. That's my primary complaint.
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  Speaker 2: It's a strange tactic for a nonprofit to do this,
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  Speaker 2: and it's also so unnecessary. It's not what you're looking
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  Speaker 2: for when you open up your mailbox is coins, right?
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  Speaker 2: from someone. I feel bad even when I go to
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  Speaker 2: a coffee shop and I just take the change they
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  Speaker 2: give me and put it in the thing. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I'm spamming them, even though I'm giving them a
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  Speaker 2: slight tip on a small order. You know that moment
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  Speaker 2: you look the person in the eye and it's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not putting any of this cash in here. Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: And the sound of the change going all the way down.
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  Speaker 2: I can just feel them.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great point, man.
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  Speaker 2: I can feel them putting the frothy milk on the
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  Speaker 2: top of my drink. and in disdain as they do it,
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  Speaker 2: as I give them 17 cents as a tip. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody wants change. Nobody needs coins anymore. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: So my primary complaint, youth cross country meets.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter is seven and my oldest daughter just graduated
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  Speaker 2: out of elementary school. Cross-country meet she's no longer doing.
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  Speaker 1: She got pretty good at it. Which is crazy to
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  Speaker 1: think about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she got pretty good at it, but she didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to continue on doing cross-country in middle school. She's
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  Speaker 2: got plenty of other things going on, so we're fine
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  Speaker 2: with it. But they have these things at the Hermitage,
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  Speaker 2: home of Andrew Jackson. Sorry to offend a lot of
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  Speaker 2: you out there who are still pissed off that we
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  Speaker 2: included the awful Andrew Jackson on our Mount Rushmore of
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  Speaker 2: Tennesseans to bring his name up again, but I will here.
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  Speaker 2: It's on the grounds of his home they had this
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  Speaker 2: cross-country meet, okay? This is the biggest racket going, all right?
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  Speaker 2: One of the biggest rackets that I've seen. It's $ 5
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  Speaker 2: for every vehicle to get in, okay? And these cross-country meets,
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  Speaker 2: they have like 25, 30 schools that are represented. They
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  Speaker 2: are raking in money at this place.
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  Speaker 1: All right? Is it cash? It's got to be cash.
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  Speaker 2: All cash.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: You got to have cash. They're not... Now, this is
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  Speaker 2: actually something that worked out for me. I give the
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  Speaker 2: girl who's taking the money, and there's tons of them everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: They triangulated the whole property. You can't get in there
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  Speaker 2: and park in a field somewhere without someone taking your money.
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  Speaker 2: I give the girl yesterday $ 20. She hands me back $ 30.
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  Speaker 2: So I actually made $ 10 when I entered the hermitage.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how that happened, but I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even notice until I'm going, because I'm on the
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  Speaker 2: phone and I'm taking the money. I'm like, she just
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  Speaker 2: handed me back $ 30. Anyway, she says, there's going to
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  Speaker 2: be an entrance, you know, down there, way on the
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  Speaker 2: other end. You can go that way because you've missed
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  Speaker 2: the first entrance. And I'm thinking, okay, whatever. I'm in
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  Speaker 2: a truck. I'm going to go over this curb and
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go park in this field however I want,
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  Speaker 2: which I do right next to her. She says nothing,
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  Speaker 2: but I go ahead and park exactly where I want.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, it's just, Of all the sporting events,
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  Speaker 2: and JT knows this with softball tournaments the way I do,
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  Speaker 2: I just leave everyone feeling a little bit empty. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what it is about it. It doesn't feel real.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to insult runners out there, the endurance athletes.
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that. It's just the whole, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I'm getting robbed as I'm there. It's extremely hot
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  Speaker 2: when they have these things. My allergies are awful for
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  Speaker 2: three days, leaving the hermitage every time. My daughter's eyes,
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  Speaker 2: my oldest daughter's eyes are swollen leaving there. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what's in the air at that place or what
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  Speaker 2: trees exist that aren't in normal nature, but I can't
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  Speaker 2: breathe for a week straight every time I go to it. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I know there are other parents out there who understand
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. There may be someone who competed in
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  Speaker 2: these things. I'm sorry if you had to endure that
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  Speaker 2: as a child. Yeah, cross-country meets for kids, one of
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  Speaker 2: the worst things going.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get to JT, I can tie this in. Chad,
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  Speaker 1: cross-country meets, they're the Bill Street of the track and
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  Speaker 1: field industry right now. You're giving cash. It's a cash
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  Speaker 1: cover charge to every bar in Memphis. You also leave
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  Speaker 1: feeling robbed, hot, and your eyes are swollen. And you're
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  Speaker 1: sorry that anyone else had to endure Memphis and, uh,
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  Speaker 1: bill street. I would compare it to that where it's
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  Speaker 1: cash at the door and you better believe the guy
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  Speaker 1: taking the cash. In my opinion, uh, you think they're
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: spreading the wealth around the bar. If you give a
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  Speaker 1: bartender cash, you think they're splitting that tip with the
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  Speaker 1: other bartender? No, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: And also, are they really going to turn someone away?
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  Speaker 2: That's there to watch their kid. Like I have no cash.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know this. Like I bet they're just like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: pull in here. you know, and just go ahead. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it just, it's almost punishing you for
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  Speaker 2: having cash on you. If you do it, you could
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  Speaker 2: probably just tell them you don't have any cash. And
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to, I'm going to try
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  Speaker 2: next time. Since I got $ 10, I received $ 10 to
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  Speaker 2: attend yesterday's event. I'm going to see if what they
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  Speaker 2: do when I say I have no cash in the
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  Speaker 2: next one.
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  Speaker 1: Good primary complaints, but JT is going to win this,
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  Speaker 1: win this week. I think JT, you have the floor, sir.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, here's a tip, Chad, on the parking situation.
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  Speaker 4: I just always tell them that I'm with the guy
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  Speaker 4: behind me. He's getting mine, and you just go on through.
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  Speaker 4: They'll always just drive forward, and they're taking care of you.
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  Speaker 4: I would then respond if I'm them. I'd be like, well,
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  Speaker 4: this is like Chick-fil-A where we pay it forward. Would
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  Speaker 4: you like to pay for the person behind you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: It's also a good route to just act like you
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  Speaker 2: know what you're doing at all times. If you just
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  Speaker 2: look official, half the time people want to stop you.
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  Speaker 2: If you go with that, JT, I think you're right.
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  Speaker 2: They'll just let you go through it.
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  Speaker 4: First, I want to say to the two of you,
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  Speaker 4: thank you for not being that guy that I'm about
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  Speaker 4: to discuss. There are a lot of people that when
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  Speaker 4: I get text messages, I just want to throw.
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  Speaker 1: My phone against the wall.
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  Speaker 4: You guys brought up the spam stuff last week, and
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  Speaker 4: that's frustrating. But there's nothing more frustrating than you sitting
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  Speaker 4: there with your phone on your desk, and you.
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  Speaker 1: Hear ding or buzz, and then buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz.
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  Speaker 4: And you pick it up and you have seven text
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  Speaker 4: messages and what could have been sent in one text message.
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  Speaker 4: Why the hell do you people, why do we have
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: to hit the send button? Just keep typing, hit the
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  Speaker 4: enter button and continue your thoughts. It's almost like we're
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  Speaker 4: having a conversation and I just stop. And then I
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  Speaker 4: start again.
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  Speaker 2: And then I stop. And then I start again.
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  Speaker 1: And then I stop.
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  Speaker 4: And then I started over and over. Why the hell
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  Speaker 4: can you not just send me one text message? Why
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  Speaker 4: does it have to be seven?
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  Speaker 1: JT, this is excellent. It's excellent.
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  Speaker 2: And a great point. But he sent it to us
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  Speaker 2: in our group in this order. People that text like this,
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: separate text, are my primary complaint, separate text, multiple text,
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  Speaker 2: separate text, when it can be said in one text,
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  Speaker 2: to which Hud and I responded with four different hearts
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: and then four different ha-has to each and every single text,
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  Speaker 2: just so JT got all of them. That's an outstanding point,
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  Speaker 2: the run-on. And a lot of times it's like somebody
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  Speaker 2: who's in their car and they're, like voice texting or
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to, you know, get, they're not in a
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  Speaker 2: good spot to text properly, but also like you send
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  Speaker 2: the one that makes no sense. I don't know if
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: you guys get this. And then it's like, sorry. And
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: then they send another one that makes no sense. Then
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: sorry again. And then eventually you get to the right
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  Speaker 2: thing they're trying to say. Yeah. It's frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: And with the, with the spell check and stuff, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you'll try to correct the spelling of a word and
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  Speaker 1: it's still correct. It then changes the word again on
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  Speaker 1: your second text. it's unavoidable. That really irritates me with that. Like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I want, to say the word sorry. You know, not
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  Speaker 1: Siri or whatever. Well done. Stop and think.
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: When you have a second today, when you're sending that
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  Speaker 4: text message, just breathe for one second and go, is
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  Speaker 4: my thought complete? And if it's not, just hold on
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  Speaker 4: a second and gather your thoughts and then click the
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  Speaker 4: send button.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody would appreciate that. Well done, Chad. I would also
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: add in a collective primary complaint to the woman, the
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  Speaker 1: credential woman at a high school we were at this
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  Speaker 1: past weekend, demanding that we have credentials to get into
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  Speaker 1: the venue to call the football game.
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  Speaker 2: JT, we're never going back to Segal High School. I
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: hate to break the news to you over in your neighborhood.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: That was an absolute nightmare. We got through it. Not
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: only was it maybe the worst football game I've ever
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: witnessed in my life, If that game was a dog,
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: we would have put it to sleep about midway through
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: the second quarter. It was awful. And the lady working
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: the gate would not listen to reason. Now, it just
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: so happened that when I pulled up, the assistant principal
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  Speaker 2: knew who I was and was a fan of the
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: show and said, hey, I know this guy. And this
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: was as I'm talking to our sideline reporter who's in
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: an argument with the old lady who wouldn't let her in.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, she's with us too. And the
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: guy's like, oh, yeah, they're good. Let them in. I said, well,
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: I'm on the phone with Hutton. Hutton can vouch for this.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: He's on the speaker with me. I say, Hutton, say hello.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: What's up, bro?
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, all these guys are good. And then her
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: response was, well, you still can't get on the field.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. It
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  Speaker 2: was awful.
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  Speaker 1: Again, the Titans ban a reporter and a YouTuber, and
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  Speaker 1: now we can't get into a high school game to
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  Speaker 1: call the game on YouTube.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this PE teacher– At Siegel, heard the news of
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: Jared Stillman getting banned and was like, finally, I get
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: to invoke some power here and I'm going to ban
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: people who think they have a credential. I mean, we
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: have like credentials through the company we work for, for
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  Speaker 2: high school football games. And she was studying this thing
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  Speaker 2: like it was the Magna Carta. when she was looking
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: at Ella, our sideline reporter's pass. And then, so she
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  Speaker 2: couldn't go on the field. We had to go through
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: the Rutherford County school system has some sort of online credentialing.
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  Speaker 2: And of course it wasn't approved in time. So we
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: had to climb up a ladder to the top of
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: a press box over and over again to get to
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  Speaker 2: the top of the press box. And then no one
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  Speaker 2: could go on the field to talk to a coach,
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  Speaker 2: a ref or anything else. So Hutton, what was your response?
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  Speaker 2: Since we're on the primary complaints, since we didn't know
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  Speaker 2: the ref's name, since they wouldn't allow us in the field,
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: the ref suddenly became Ryan Mudd.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: Ryan Mudd about to tell us the penalty on the
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: flag on the field, the reason for the flag. So
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: we had the official, the referee JT on the field
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  Speaker 1: was named Ryan Mudd the entire night.
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  Speaker 2: We just made stuff up.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Great job by Mudd.
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  Speaker 2: At that point. We were like Carissa Thompson hunting. We
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: just made stuff up during that game. But the opposite
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: of that is because Carissa Thompson has access when she's
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: at the game. She's actually on the sideline, and we
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: weren't allowed to go on the sideline on Friday night.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Lucky for us, we won't be going back to Siegel.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: And we got Gallatin and Cookville this Friday night. I
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: know the people at Gallatin will be very welcoming, so
• 13:01
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• 13:03
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• 15:01
  Speaker 1: John McClain will make his first appearance on Sporting State
• 15:03
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• 15:07
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• 15:11
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• 15:33
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• 15:38
  Speaker 1: with Dave Cannell, slowly making the ascension back. He's been
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: through the depths. He's been in the cellar. Now he's
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: making his way up, but can he continue before he plateaus?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Jr., all the number two wide receivers at
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Ohio State ball out year one. Next up, maybe Carnell Tate.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: But prior to that, it was Marvin Harrison Jr. that's
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: just transcending the world of wide receivers in football. I
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: realize where he's playing, but now they also have Jeremiah Love.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: It's time for Marvin Harrison Jr. to show out. Kayvon Thibodeau.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: And quickly on Marvin Harrison Jr.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Chad.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Big decision the other night in our fantasy football draft.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I had Marvin Harrison Jr. in the queue, and I
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: went with someone ranked well below him At that point,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember who it was. But for the
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: very reason you're talking about, I'm like, how is Marvin
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Harrison Jr. not a no-brainer at this point in the
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: draft when you're talking about players, given what he was
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: coming into the league? So, again, I'm just saying that
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: to reiterate, yes, this is a good guy to put
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: on that list.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson is putting up some numbers when he plays.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: He's playing with Geno Smith this year. And I think
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: sooner rather than later, Harrison will be playing with Carson Beck.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: which was also an interesting tie-in there. Back to the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: list is Kayvon Thibodeau. Chad, I'll never forget our chance
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: to chat with him prior to his draft at the
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He joined us as a guest. He was cool,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: but he was going to be the number one overall pick.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: All this talk about, are you going to go with
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: the Titans? What are you going to do? He ends
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: up in New York, and now they've got a defensive
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: roster chock full of the defensive front with guys who are–
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Highly talented. This guy certainly was. And with the name Thibodeau,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: it just fits so perfectly into where he's from. Well,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: now he's in New York, and it's time to put
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: up and show up with expectations off the edge. Keon Coleman.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: He became the household name whenever you've got the owner
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and the general manager specifically mentioning Keon Coleman in press
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: conferences about why they're making decisions the way they are. J.C. Latham.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: comes out and says that the offensive line in Tennessee,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: they're not going to be anybody's bitch in 2026. He's
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: on the list because of it. And because he was
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: drafted to play left tackle. He's now at right tackle.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And he's speaking and talking the talk. I love the confidence,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: the anger he's playing with. He's being a bulldozer. He's
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: talking trash in the run game whenever he's blocking the
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: defensive end or defensive tackle. Now carry that over to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the regular season and do it consistently.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Let me say this quickly about J.C. Latham as we
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: go down the list here.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: J.C.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Latham, I love that demeanor. I love the mindset. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: love everything he's saying about we don't want to be
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: anybody's bitch this year. Love that. I wish he would
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: have said it after the first game after they beat
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the Jets. That's part of it. I know beggars can't
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: be choosers. But I just wish that is a line
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: that was reserved for we just went out there and
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: mauled somebody on the offensive line. And had a great
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: game as a group. We ran the football. We protected
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: our second-year quarterback. And we won convincingly against the New
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: York Jets. And now we have set the tone for
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the season, having won a game, and saying we're no
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: longer going to be anyone's bitch. I wish it would
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: have happened after the first game. That's all I'm going
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: to say. I know there's plenty of reasons to be
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: critical of the Titans. And maybe Titans fans are going
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: to say you're nitpicking here because you actually like something.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: But again, with where that organization has been, I don't.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: care about the talk right now before games have started happening?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Get a game under your belt and then say it.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that you answered the question. I'm with you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: The question specifically was just about Cam Ward taking violent
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: hits during the Texans game last year, but no one
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: did anything about it. This year, the O-line has a
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: more feisty defensive mindset. What changed? And the quote is,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: culture is what you stand for and what you allow.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: This offseason, we all did a moment of self-reflecting of,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: we want to be the offense. line that we know
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: we can be. We can't be no pushovers. We can't
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: be nobody's bitch, just being completely honest. So all this
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: late hits, all the extra stuff that defenses do, if
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: we want to be what we know we can be,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: we can't stand for that. Bravo. That is the old
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: school mentality that this guy brought at Alabama. that now
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: he needs to bring on the offensive line. And bravo
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to Robert Sala, who's allowing this. How's that guy not
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: doing that last year? I think they're slowly starting to
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: talk the talk. But, you know, it's not BTA. Not
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: anywhere close to it yet.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I love the line. Now let's see it. That's
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: all I'll say. I want to see it now from
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: this Titans offensive line.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Chad, Michael Pinnock Jr., one of your favorite players, is
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the backup to start the season. He's been hurt. back
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: up to start the season to Tua Tagovailoa in Atlanta.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: At some point, Tua's going to get dinged. I'm not
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: trying to make fun of it. He will be concussed.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: It just happens to him. This guy's going to come
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: into the game, and Michael Pinnock Jr., who they drafted
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: very high, top 10 pick. Everyone was stunned that they
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: went quarterback. There's a reason why they went quarterback. But
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: their franchise quarterback is now running the franchise in Matt Ryan.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And when this guy enters the lineup, he's got to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: prove it. Or the franchise quarterback, the former guy, Matt Ryan,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: is going to move on. And they're going to be
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: way too much in a cost versus result business. Travis
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Hunter's next up. Transcendent player in college football. I want
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: him to be that in Jacksonville. I love the player.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I want that to reflect on game day. He was
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: banged up last year, but also the two-way player didn't
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: work out. He got hurt very quickly. Kyler Murray's on
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: my guys to bet on, but he's got to prove it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I think he will. And, Chet, George Pickens. He's in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the contract year in Dallas. Watch out. Watch out. This guy,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: he's not the number one receiver. He's the number two.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: One-on-one coverage. Because CeeDee Lamb's going to get it. I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: think he's going to prove it, but he's on the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: list because he's top ten worthy of that. What do
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you think of the list?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I like it, Hutton. Looking at one through ten here
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: on your list, I think you've got to start with quarterbacks,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: and that's exactly what you did with Stroud and Bryce Young.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: My guy Michael Penix Jr. has been a disappointment so
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: far based on what I thought he was going to be.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Definitely a prove-it year for him. And Travis Hunter is
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: a great one. I mean, what is he in Jacksonville?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Is he that transcendent player that we all thought he
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: was going to be? We're going to find out a
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: lot more about him this year. So, Hutton– Quickly, let's
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: go through one through ten.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: C.J. Stroud and Bryce Young back-to-back for me, and it's
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: really no particular order. These guys are lumped together with
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: where they are in their careers and what they have
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to do. Marvin Harrison Jr., tons of talent, huge catch radius,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: ability to run routes better than anyone. Let's see it, man.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's get after it in Arizona and
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: turn some things around with a trio at quarterback and
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: eventually Carson Beck. Harrison Jr., And then you have a
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: first-round pick and a love as well at running back.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Let's show it. Kevon Thibodeau, it's a proven year for
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: him because he can get paid if he puts out
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: on the stats. Keon Coleman's being called out as a
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: bad pick, bad selection in Buffalo. He's still on the roster. J.C. Latham,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: a mentality we all love. Let's just see it on
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the field. Michael Pinnock Jr., Travis Hunter, Kyler Murray in Minnesota,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the veteran minimum for him after making, what, 50-plus million
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: last year in Arizona, and then George Pickens in Dallas.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: There's your top 10 prove-it seasons upcoming across the NFL.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: The guy we're about to bring on coming up, John McClain,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: his ability to project the future and tell you who's
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: going to play in the Super Bowl is uncanny. Now,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: he'll tell you, I didn't get it last year. That
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: might be true. But normally, more times than not, the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: guy's in the plus money in this. We get to
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: talk with him as the season starts. And we get
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to catch up with a longtime friend who makes the.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Move over, Swami and Chris Berman. The real Swami is
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: John McClain when he talks about his season projections.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: He's the general. He's the man in black. John McClain
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: making the first appearance on Hutton and Withrow with Sporting State.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: But man, he's been a part of our show or
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a part of our careers for decades. over two decades.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: He's covered the league for, what, five? Can't wait to
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: talk with him next. We're presented by Hard Rock Bet.
• 24:27
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• 24:40
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• 24:44
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• 24:45
  Speaker 1: something she didn't believe. And so she started this athletics company, XXXY.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Their mission, in their words, is to empower female athletes
• 24:53
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• 25:04
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• 25:21
  Speaker 2: That's xx-xyathletics.com. I don't think Clay's heard back from the
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas Aces or the WNBA.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Is it $ 10 or $ 20 million he's got it out now?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: $ 10 million. He's gone to the eighth.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Graders, right? He went from a high school state champion
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: of his choosing to an eighth grade boys basketball team,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and they've still yet to respond.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Not shocking. Not shocking that they've not responded. I don't
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: think we'll be hearing from them anytime soon.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Our guest, John McClain, he's not allowed to say this
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: is a bunch of BS. He's a legend. And here's why.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: 50th year. 50th year covering the National Football League. That's
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: unheard of. I mean, you get to do something for 50.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: You celebrate a marriage that goes that long. And some
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of these people get married at 18. John is covering
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the NFL for 50. John McClain, welcome. Great to see you.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: You guys weren't even born when I started covering the NFL.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I was six years away from being born, John, when
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you started covering the league. I was six years out.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: And, Jonathan, how far out were you?
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I was born in 84. Eight years out. I was
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: eight years out.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you for having me. Congratulations on the new
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: show and, of course, Clay's new site. You guys are
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: killing it already.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, I don't know how you don't remember this. You
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: were getting at least one of the two teams, if
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: not the matchup in the Super Bowl, of late. Let's
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: just start there as the season kicks off. Who's going
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: to live up to expectation in your mind? And which
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: teams are taking a fall back? Because there's always a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: worst to first. And you were great at always pointing
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: out the runner-up for the Lombardi Trophy generally doesn't go
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and repeat what just happened.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: That's why I don't have the Patriots making the playoffs.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: A lot of other people have them among their top
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: five teams. And talent-wise and coaching-wise with Mike Brable, they
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: should be. But Super Bowl losers just don't respond the
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: next year when you think they would be the hungriest
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: team in football. And we don't have repeat champions anymore
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: other than the Patriots with Tom Brady. So I'm not
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: going out on a big a limb. Everybody is picking
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: the Rams so heavily. And you talk about Super Bowl
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: or bust, they better because they are built to win
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl now. And I've been picking a team
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: that I would love to see win. Last year, I
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: picked Detroit and Buffalo because I wanted their fan base.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Their long-suffering fan base. Lions haven't won a championship since
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I was a child. And the Bills haven't won once
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: since the AFL when they were led by Jack Kemp
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: and Cookie Gilchrist, a very underrated running back back then.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: And so I picked them this year. I'm going with
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: the Rams. I'm going with the Bills. I think the Bills,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: who begin the season in Houston, will lose. And then
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: they will beat the Texans in their new stadium to
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: go to the Super Bowl at SoFi Stadium.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Who do you have in the AFC South this year?
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I have Houston and Jacksonville second, just reversed from last season.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe the Colts, who were 8-2 when Daniel Jones was injured,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: maybe the Colts will be really good again. All I'm
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: confident in is the Titans will finish last, even though
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I saw on the NFL Network yesterday, Titans are in
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: the playoffs and the Texans are out.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Cal Grant had to win in the division, right, yesterday?
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: I wasn't going to embarrass Kyle, but last year I
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: remember Mike Tannenbaum on ESPN said the Titans would win
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: a division, and I don't hear people pointing that out.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: When you go way out on a limb, and I've done–
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: He's buddies with Sala also. I'll put that out there.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tannenbaum you're saying?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, Kyle Brandt.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I knew there was some sort of reason as to
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: why you would do that. And I was thinking with
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Tannenbaum here before, I'm like, is Brian Callahan his brother-in-law
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: or something? we don't know about?
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Salah should be coach of the year, coach of the decade,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: maybe coach of all time.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: John, yeah, that's a wild take. Hey, I want to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: get your opinion on something because you have covered the
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: league for 50 years. Jared Stillman, who used to work
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: for a radio station I know you go on weekly
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: in Nashville, now is an independent YouTube host for his
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: own show. He got booted. He got banned from the
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Titans media and is no longer allowed a credential. It
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: blew up and became a national story. And Jared ended
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: up doing interviews all over the place about it. There
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: was a back and forth right before it with Cam Ward,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: where he asked Cam Ward to assess his play and
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Cam Ward asked him, how would you assess it? And
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: he said, not well. And then, you know, that was
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: about it. Then he answered the question. I didn't think
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: it was that big of a deal. But it's no
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: coincidence to me that he got his credential revoked shortly
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: after that. What do you make of that and that
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: decision by the Titans in doing this, which it feels
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: like to us just sort of an unnecessary black eye
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: for the organization when you do something like that?
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: It's almost like Jared Stillman called the Titans and said, man,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I need some more attention. I need some clicks. I
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: need more people subscribing to my YouTube channel and also
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: listening to me on Sirius. So what can you help
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: me do? Because all they did was take him national,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: give him unbelievable publicity, and they had to have known
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: what was going to happen, and they didn't care. And
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I'm never in favor of pulling anybody's credential unless they've
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: done something illegal or against the rules. I know several
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: times here in Houston, there have been people in the
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: media who've broken a rule that might have it pulled
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: for a week and never came out or they were threatened.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: But boy, you can't just pull something because of negative
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: publicity because they give him So much attention. And they're
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: not stupid. They may have made a stupid decision, but
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: they knew what the fallout was going to be. And
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they're thinking, okay, when the season starts, it
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: will have died down. But I think overall it was
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: a really dumb decision to do that. And not just
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: what Jared does locally, but the fact that he is
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: on Sirius and he has a national platform and he
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: has milked it as he should have.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: John, what's reasonable for Cam Ward in year two? Disappointing
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: year one, a lot of factors with that. He's got
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: a new coach now, new offensive coordinator and play caller
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: in Brian Dayball. How long are you giving this if
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you're the organization? Does he have the entire season to
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: show something? What are you wanting to see early, and
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: what are you wanting to see throughout the year from
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Cam Ward to know that he's your guy if you're
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans?
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: First of all, they got to beat the Jets. If
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: they don't beat the Jets, the criticism will be even more.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Somebody will say, huh, so it wasn't Stillman's fault. And
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I think in this case, you want to see improvement.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: They're going to struggle early. You've got new system, new coaches,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: new terminology. They still need more talent, of course. What
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: you want to see is improvement. And you want to
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: see them, if they can win five or six games,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: that would be improvement. But with the quarterback drafts the
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: next two years, and they would have to seriously say,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: because you have a head coach, he didn't draft him,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: he wasn't here during that period, but you have a
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: new coach, and if Robert Sala wins, say they double
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: their win total and win six, or they make Kyle
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Brandt look like the greatest genius since Albert Einstein, if
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: that's the case... then they know what they've got. But
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: with quarterbacks coming out the next two years, at least
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: what it looks like, if he does not improve, if
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: he continues to make the same mistakes, and some of
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: them you're like, my God, doesn't he listen? How can
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: he do that? But you see some big plays too,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: and I think he will be in there all year,
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: and then he'll be evaluated after the season. They'll see
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: where they are, and if they haven't seen the kind
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: of improvement they want to see because they stand behind
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: the scenes.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: We don't.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: And when they know, they should know after the season,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: he's our guy or we're getting somebody else.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: John, I've got four organizations that I want to hit
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: on here, but I'm going to lump three together. In
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the AFC North, the trio of Baltimore, Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: how do you have those franchises aligned right now and
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: how they finish, just prediction-wise? Where do you tier them?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And which organization faces the most pressure given the the storyline.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Baltimore has been the talked about team that is not
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: winning the AFC. You've got Pittsburgh with Aaron Rodgers in
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: his final year and Joe Burrow and everyone, the collective
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: offensive group, now trying to actually get back to the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: They're got like several of the divisions. All you know
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: is who's going to finish last and that's going to
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: be the Browns. I do not think the Steelers are
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: going to be a playoff contender after watching them make
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: it last year and get destroyed at home by the
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Texans because the Texans had two defensive touchdowns. I think Baltimore,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: you guys, first of all, Cincinnati, Zach Taylor, everybody says
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: he's on a hot seat. And Joe Burrow needs to
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: get off to a good start. He needs to stay healthy.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: When he does, he's a top three quarterback. And the
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Ravens have made a lot of changes and it starts
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: with John Harbaugh. I think that that they're under more
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: pressure because Harbaugh was fired, and now he's with the Giants,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: of course, and Harbaugh had won a Super Bowl. So
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I think it's the Ravens, even though they're not going
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: to make a head coaching change, are under more pressure
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: than the Bengals.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: And the Kansas City Chiefs, what do you make of
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Mahomes coming back off injury, Kelsey, all this? And just,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: of course, they've got the coach. They've got the quarterback.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Where are the expectations right now?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I think Denver's going to win that division. A lot
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: of people nationally are always hounding Chargers. What have the
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Chargers done? They've done squat. They make the playoffs. They
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: don't do squat. So I think Kansas City, to blow
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: them off, would be a mistake because Mahomes and Andy Reid.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: But they've gotten old. They've had a lot of bad
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: draft choices. They've taken receivers who are head cases. They've
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: gotten rid of a receiver who was a head caser.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: And they'll take anybody, as you guys know. But because
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: of Reed Mahomes, they're going to factor into the playoff
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: picture whether it's as a spoiler or whether they make it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I would take the Chiefs over the Chargers. I guess
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: most people take the Chargers because of Jim Harbaugh. But
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going with the Chiefs because they are tried and true.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe all three of them make the playoffs. But because
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: the Broncos have a great defense led by their pass
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: rush and because Sean Payton is a great coach, I
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: would put the Broncos as a division winner because I
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: think Bo Diggs will bounce back. If Bo Diggs had
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: been healthy, they would have been in the Super Bowl.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: So I think that division is going to be really good,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: but all we know in the AFC West is who's
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: going to finish last.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: NFL kicks off tonight, John, on a Wednesday night. First,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: do you like the Wednesday night start, getting the one-day
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: jump on the season as opposed to the normal Thursday
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: night kickoff?
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Chad's like, it wouldn't bother me if we had a
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: game every night. You can't have too many NFL games.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Just like I love college football. College football is off
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to an incredible start. Yes, a lot of it's controversy, chaos, confusion.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: But that just makes it more interesting. I watch everything
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin does. He's like a car wreck. You go by,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: you can't take your eyes off of him. And now
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I want the NFL to come out. have exciting games,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: starting with the Seahawks and the Patriots, and I think
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: it's great. I wouldn't be in favor for it every
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: week because of logistics, although as a fan, I could
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: never get enough NFL.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: John, are we going to see a Diana Rossini hangover
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: with Vrabel and the Patriots going into this season, or,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: and this is kind of the way I feel about
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel, knowing him a little bit, He's a guy
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: that when his back's up against the wall or there's
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: any type of controversy or any type of people are
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: doubting me type thing that he seems to come through
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: more often than not. Do you think that has any
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: effect on him and the Patriots this season on the field?
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I don't think they're going to
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs because last year they had the easiest
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: schedule in 25 years. Now they're going to have the
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: hardest schedule in 25 years. I don't think it will
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: be because of Rabel and Rossini. They are storing ESPN
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: this week, talking to some unnamed players and two players
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: allowed to be quoted. And it looks, one of them
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: said he was able to get a high five. One
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: of them said he's a dirtbag like we are, and
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: he's the former player, Sean Smith. But the players don't
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: care about things like that. They want to make money.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: They want to get women, and they want to win.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: That's what they play the game for. And I think
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: that it's.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Very– That's our clip for the McLean segment. That was perfect.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: It is tilted, of course, against women reporters. And that
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: story in ESPN covered a lot of that about how
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: it's made it even tougher for women. And coaches are
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: more careful about talking to a woman. What if at
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: the combine where you didn't think twice before about seeing
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: a woman and a coach talking? at a table talking football,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: now you're like, oh, are they having an affair? So
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: it's just unbelievable where it's done, but I don't think
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: that Mike Grable's off-the-field issue will have anything to do
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: with their season because he's got an owner who totally
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: supports him, and that's all it matters.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: John, final minute and a half or so here. I'm
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: curious what you think about the Pro Football Hall of
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Fame selectors' changes that the hall made. And is this
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: in direct reflection of Bill Belichick not making the Hall
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: in the first ballot?
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: First of all, we still don't know if we're on
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: the committee. I've been on it for more than 30 years.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I may be on it. I may be off of it.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I would no longer, if I'm on it,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: represent Houston, the Oilers, or the Texans. They don't have
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: that anymore. And I can say I don't like any
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: of these changes. And even though they swear it has
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with Belichick, it's just curious when Dion
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: complained publicly and created a controversy three years ago, they
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: made changes to make it harder to get in all
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: the paint. And this time Belichick didn't get in and
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: it could have been 30, 39 of us voted for
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: him and 11 didn't, but you got to get 80%.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: So it's another major changes. And if I'm, In it,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I'll do my best job under the new format. And
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: if I'm out, I'll look back on my more than
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: three decades with great pride.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you be in? What's the criteria for who
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: they want?
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: They haven't said. They just want people that are going
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: to get it right. And so I don't know. We're waiting.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Each of us, 50 of us, will get a call
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: telling us we're in or out. Do we want to
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: not be part of it if we're in? Do we
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: want to resign? So we're all waiting with bated breath.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: But right now, I don't know if I'm going to
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: be in, but I don't like the new format because
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I always took great pride in making presentations about Oilers, Texans,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: and a guy like Chuck Cowley with the Cowboy who
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I presented.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: John, do you feel like they're trying to punish those
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: who stood against Belichick?
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, Chad, like I don't think they're
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: trying to punish anybody. I think they're trying to work
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: harder to get the people they believe should be in there.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: And in starting with Bill Belichick, who was always going
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: to get in on the second ballot. You know, Vince
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Lombardi didn't get on the first ballot. Tom Landry, were
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: they pretty good? But they didn't raise a big stink
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: back then. And but hey, it's it's part of NFL history.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I'll still love the Hall of Fame where I've been
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: over 50 times and will continue to go if I'm
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: not part of the group.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: And by the way, what they can't do is take
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: away the fact that John McClain is in the Pro
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame, not just a selector.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: That's the truth.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: He is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Damn right.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I wear their caps with pride.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Always. Damn right.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, John, we mentioned right before you joined, it is
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: great to have you back with us. You've been a
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: great friend of ours behind the scenes. And also- great
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: friend of the show for over two decades. For us,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: in some shape, form, or fashion, we appreciate you, man.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I always love coming on with you. Thank you very much.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Congrats again on the show and Sporting State, and I
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: can't wait to talk to you guys again.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I have to say, John, that I have known you
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and worked with you in some capacity for 22 of
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: your 50 years covering the NFL as long as I've
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: been doing this So thank you for all the help
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: and great to get you back on the show.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: George Plaster has called you Chadwick. You're like, that's not
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: going to cut it, George. How about Chadlack?
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: And that stuck.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Chad, tell them your fantasy football team name.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my fantasy football team every year is the Mount
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Juliet Chadlacks in honor of John McClain. So I tell
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: everyone John McClain gave me this nickname. I ran with it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: And my fantasy football team name, the Cadillacs, every single year. John,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: you're the man. Thank you.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: On underscore NFL is where you can find John McClain.
• 43:48
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  Speaker 1: We're calling this segment Going for the Bundle because we're
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: giving a parlay for you.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: In honor of?
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: In honor of the late Mark Howard, which we'll get to.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I've got an example coming up. But I want to
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: go for the bundle with what we're doing. We're each
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: going to give a three-leg parlay. And then I think
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: it'd be great if we pick our favorites from the
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: three-leg parlay and combine it into another three-leg parlay. JT's
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: going to join us for this, too. Chad, lead us off.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, so we're not keeping records on this, by the way.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go ahead and make that addendum right now.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Our bank account will, Jeff. It's not a loss, right?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: We're going to look at the overall percentage within this
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: parlay because betting a three-leg parlay is very difficult to
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: hit on all three. If we get two out of three,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: we'll consider that a success. But, Hutton, we're going for
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the bundle this week, and I'm hoping to win. Boy,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I tell you right now, my confidence meter is not
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: high on my first one. Patriots to win outright. That's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: the lowest one. I have been sweating that one all day.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Not feeling great about it, but I do have the Patriots'
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: backs against the wall. Mike Vrabel's been talked about in
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: a negative way all offseason. This seems like the time
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: that he responds in a big way. And you've got
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: the defending Super Bowl champ. Everybody's thinking they're going to win.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: It's not a big point spread in the game. I'm
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: taking the Patriots to win this thing outright. and surprise
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday night, tonight, against the Seahawks. Also, give me Missouri.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be good again under Eli Drinkwitz.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not as high on Kansas. Only a five-and-a-half point line.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: SEC showed out well in week one. I think they're
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: going to do the same in week two. They're going
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: to win. I like the minus five-and-a-half at Kansas. And
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: give me Mississippi State. I think they're a half-a-point favorite.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to take them on the money line,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: because that's what it is, to cover the spread to
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: win that game outright. At Minnesota. And I'll give you,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: let's get to yours. I think my highest confidence, though,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: on this one is Mississippi State on the money line
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: at Minnesota if I had to pick one to combine
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: into a parlay.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Okay. Mine. Check this. Memphis. Now, I've teased some of
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: the lines here for my parlay. I'm taking Memphis minus 10.5.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Or plus 10.5, excuse me. Plus 10.5 as they take on, what, Boise. Boise.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I like the point. I'm going with coaching here, Chad.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just taking the momentum of the Memphis Tigers.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Winning on the road and answering on offense. They can score.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Give me the Memphis Tigers plus the points here. Marshall,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: they're taking on Middle Tennessee State, and Derek Mason is
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: head coach. I haven't talked about my alma mater in
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: three years.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: For now. Derek Mason's the head coach for now.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, this was like 12, 13 points. I've got
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: it down to 10 and a half. And then Tennessee,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I moved that down by two points. I'm laying the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: points there, though, Chad, and I'm taking the balls in
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: this matchup against Georgia Tech after what I saw from
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the Yellow Jackets. What do you think?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I like it. I mean, I'm reluctant only because I
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: want to see Faison Brandon on the road once before
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I really feel confident about taking Tennessee in points on
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: the road. But from what I saw in week one,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: and yes, it was Furman, and yes, it was Colorado
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: they played who's better than Furman, but I don't know
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: how good Colorado is. And Georgia Tech lost at home
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: to them. So if I bet that game, I'd roll
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: with you with Tennessee minus the 12.5 or whatever it
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: is right now, maybe 13.5. I like it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: All right, JT, pick three of our six options, and
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: that's our extra parlay.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: I've got to say I'm going to go with anybody
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: against NTSU because I've been going to watch them lately.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I don't like that.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I don't really care what the line is.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I live in Murfreesboro, proud supporter of the Blue Raiders.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: They have not been good.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: I like Mississippi State because I think that portion of
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: the SEC versus that portion of the Big Ten SEC should.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Be favored there, right? And let's go with the Vols.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I like that one. We've got Marshall, Mississippi State, Tennessee.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: All right. That's the official Withrow, Hutton, JT parlay is
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: to go.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Good work, Wes. Good work.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I like it. Let's play.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: This is going for the bundle, and here's why. Mark Howard,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: a great friend of ours, the late Mark Howard, who
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: had this in an arena football league, courtesy of Titans Radio.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I was producing live in Austin, Texas.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Austin getting a defensive touchdown in the third quarter. Cats,
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: three interceptions from Ahmaud Hawkins. On first down, Smoker back
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: in his own end zone, going for the bundle. He's
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: got Bonner, who lays it out and catches the ball
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: down on the 7, and he's in for the touchdown.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: He was not touched. He was not touched by the defender,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Nate Coggins. Jeff Smoker is a touchdown-throwing inferno.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: It's 57-49, Nashville.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Jeff Smoker is a touchdown-throwing inferno.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Jeff Smoker, who missed the flight because he was hungover
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: to the playoff game against the Kansas City Brigade.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: We don't have time for it today, but when we
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: get back into story time on this show, I will
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: tell the story about... The high school football game you
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: called color with Mark Howard and his not listening at
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: all to your story about the kid who battled cancer
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: or whatever was going on.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a later show.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: We love, love, love, love Mark Howard. Another great story
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: of love, love, love. What a great call from the
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: great Mark Howard, the late and great Mark Howard, RIP.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: That is going for the bundle. Hard rock. dot bet
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: slash clay to take care of the offer there and
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: join us as we, we win, enjoy the NFL kickoff
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: and enjoy all of the shows coming up right here
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: at sport and state.com. We'll catch you tomorrow morning on
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Hutton with rope.