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Happy Hour #158: SMNTY (Doesn't) Go Method · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
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  Speaker 1: I've never told you your production by Heart Radio, and
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  Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: As always, if you choose to drink or whatever you're doing,
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  Speaker 2: please do so responsibly. What are you doing, Samantha? Are
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  Speaker 2: you doing it responsibly?
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  Speaker 3: Always?
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  Speaker 4: Because I get sleepy, like I just love how I'm
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  Speaker 4: now and to the point of adulthood where I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't party anymore. Really, I've never really parted, let's
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  Speaker 4: be very honest, but I barely do any of that.
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  Speaker 3: I used to. I went to clubs like a short
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  Speaker 3: spent time because I do love dancing. I do love dancing.
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  Speaker 4: And now my clubbing is Zumba classes with the other
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  Speaker 4: forty fifty year olds and we get into it just say,
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  Speaker 4: you know anyway, But yes, I'm drinking coffee because I
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  Speaker 4: am tired and it feels groggy. And it's cold again.
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  Speaker 4: Why is it cold? For the dear love of God,
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  Speaker 4: it is very cold here.
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  Speaker 1: And I oh, I made the mistake of turning off
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  Speaker 1: my radiator because it was hot.
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  Speaker 2: It was warm for a while.
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  Speaker 3: And now I'm really worried about that radiator.
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  Speaker 1: We have a very adversarial relationship me and this radiator.
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  Speaker 1: But now it's steaming up so much. I can't see
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  Speaker 1: out my windows.
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  Speaker 2: And uh.
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  Speaker 1: This morning a friend of mine texting me and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: it's knowing where I am. And I was, I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to look out the window. I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: can't tell im too cold to go outside, so.
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  Speaker 2: We'll never know.
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  Speaker 1: I am drinking wine because today it's a good wine.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to make this clear at the top,
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  Speaker 1: this is my opinion. This is my personal opinion. And
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  Speaker 1: I might ruffle some feathers in the acting community if
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  Speaker 1: we've got any actors listening, But all right.
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  Speaker 4: We are.
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  Speaker 3: Are you really doing something? Huh?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that that was such a big warning
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  Speaker 4: because I love drama.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do this team.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: I've gotten into so many arguments with other actors about this.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So it is award season as we record this.
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  Speaker 1: And I also want to say it does feel strange.
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  Speaker 1: I think my Monday mini upcoming will be about this
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  Speaker 1: kind of but it feels strange to talk about this
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  Speaker 1: when it feels like the world is falling apart.
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  Speaker 2: But we're going to talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: So it is a Ward season coming up, and I've
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  Speaker 1: had this in my on my list of possible happy
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  Speaker 1: hour topics for a while, but this was a ways back.
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  Speaker 1: Natalie Portman made this comment where she said method acting
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  Speaker 1: is a luxury that women can't have, and she was
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  Speaker 1: mostly commenting on how women are still expected to do
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  Speaker 1: a lot more domestic work and especially raising kids. So
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  Speaker 1: she was saying, like, I can't show up at the
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  Speaker 1: pickup like covered in blood or whatever. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Someone finally said right, I will get into it,
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  Speaker 1: but I've got a lot of thoughts about method actors.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them are very good and have produced really
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  Speaker 1: good performances. I will I will break it down in
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  Speaker 1: a minute, but I've always kind of had an issue
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  Speaker 1: with it, and I know.
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  Speaker 2: For people, I think you know what method acting is.
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  Speaker 1: It's when someone like quote becomes that character and they
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  Speaker 1: ask people to call them by that name. They like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff like that. I do want to
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  Speaker 1: differentiate between that and doing your research. I think doing
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  Speaker 1: the research part is good, like going to work at
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  Speaker 1: a factory for a month or whatever. As long as
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  Speaker 1: you're not a total jack about it, I think that's good.
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  Speaker 1: I got a lot of thoughts about this, But that's
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  Speaker 1: different than what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Jared
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  Speaker 1: Leto is like one of the most famous examples of
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  Speaker 1: recent times. Oh yeah, when he was in a suicide squad.
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  Speaker 1: He was in there for ten minutes. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: he basically just harassed the rest of the cast. He
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  Speaker 1: had like an assistant that would sneak into their dressing
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  Speaker 1: rooms and put things like rats or used condoms our
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  Speaker 1: fish heads because he's playing the Joker. And he was like,
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  Speaker 1: it adds a level. That's what the Joker does. It
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  Speaker 1: adds a level of surprise and a lot Okay, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the other actors have spoken about it, and
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  Speaker 1: it said it made them feel really uncomfortable, makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of said it's been over exaggerated. I am
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  Speaker 1: leaning more to her. He probably did do that, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't there. I don't know, But that's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. That kind of behavior is what
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  Speaker 1: I was talking right. I just feel that as a
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  Speaker 1: viewer of something I I can have the capacity to know, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're the Joker and you're a good actor, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: scared of you, but I actually appreciate this more because
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  Speaker 1: I know as a human being, you're not that. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, right, Like, I have the capacity
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  Speaker 1: to differentiate between those two things. Right, You don't have
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  Speaker 1: to convince me you are the joker. If you do,
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  Speaker 1: you've really freaked me out more than I think you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to. You can be a good actor and not
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  Speaker 1: convince me that, like maybe you shouldn't be allowed your people,
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  Speaker 1: Like there's a different there's a difference, right.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's all comes back to the understanding that
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  Speaker 4: if you're good at your craft, you don't have to
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  Speaker 4: change a personality, Like it doesn't have to be that way. Like.
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  Speaker 4: It also kind of comes to people who are like,
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  Speaker 4: if you truly do this, then you're truly this, like
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  Speaker 4: as in like you're not validated until you're boiling to
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  Speaker 4: push to about me.
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  Speaker 3: That's not healthy.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not healthy. And there have been a million
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  Speaker 1: examples of how it's not healthy.
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  Speaker 2: And there is.
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  Speaker 1: A quote it's frequently attributed to Lawrence Olivier, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's ever been proven he was like the
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  Speaker 1: one that said it. But it's you know, my dear boy,
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  Speaker 1: have you tried acting like you don't have to do
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  Speaker 1: these things? And it makes people, not just other actors,
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  Speaker 1: it makes people on set uncomfortable. Like one time I
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  Speaker 1: was working with somebody who said they were a method actor.
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  Speaker 1: He was playing a rapist. Oh you know how uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: that made everyone?
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean? This method acting?
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  Speaker 1: Like? What are you talking about exactly? And it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those things where I think and I have.
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  Speaker 1: When I was kind of lightly researching this, I found
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  Speaker 1: a BuzzFeed list and it was like seventeen worst examples
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  Speaker 1: of method actors. They were all white men, and I
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  Speaker 1: just feel like if a woman or a person of
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  Speaker 1: color did this, the set wouldn't stand for it. They'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, she's crazy, get her out of here. But
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  Speaker 1: instead it's like, look at this genius work.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: What I don't know did Michael B. Jordan did he do?
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  Speaker 4: He didn't do method acting for Black Panther, right. He
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  Speaker 4: said he just isolated himself.
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  Speaker 2: He like went on the streets and isolated himself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but not necessarily actually full method.
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  Speaker 1: Right, which is I do think there are different degrees
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  Speaker 1: of method, and some of them I'm like, okay, I
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  Speaker 1: get that. Yeah, that's where it sort of blurs the
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  Speaker 1: line between research and method to me, right, I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do think there are some method actors that are
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  Speaker 1: not as obnoxious and frankly kind of terrifying. One example
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  Speaker 1: is I know a lot of actors who use accents
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  Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, so like if they're doing an
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  Speaker 1: American accent, they're not an American, they'll just start using
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  Speaker 1: that accent all the time. I think that's okay. Like
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  Speaker 1: I I would weird me out if I knew the person, right,
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  Speaker 1: But that's that's I understand that, right.
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  Speaker 4: I think, uh Rene Zelleger she did that because she
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  Speaker 4: couldn't go in and out really well, and she said,
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  Speaker 4: if I lose it, I'm going to lose it, So
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  Speaker 4: I just have to keep it the entire time, like
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  Speaker 4: she would keep her English accent for Bridget Jones diary.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, which I get. That makes sense to me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree, it's still a little weird. It makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: If I knew you personally and you had an accent,
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  Speaker 4: I would make fun of you the entire time. I
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  Speaker 4: would have a hard time. Not like not because I'm
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  Speaker 4: being mean, but I just think it's hilarious to see
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  Speaker 4: you doing the switch up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's just odd, but I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Another issue I have with this kind of hardcore method
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  Speaker 1: acting is it has led to instances of sexual assaw
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  Speaker 1: and physical abuse, largely against women because they were method
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  Speaker 1: which I just think is ridiculous and unacceptable. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't kind of going back to what you were saying,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think if you had to do that as
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  Speaker 1: part of a role, it almost feels.
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  Speaker 2: Like an excuse.
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  Speaker 4: To me.
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  Speaker 1: It just kind of feels like an excuse to act
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  Speaker 1: like a And in some cases, I think that's what
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  Speaker 1: it is. In other cases, I think that people believe
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  Speaker 1: they're pursuing brilliance or whatever, like I'm really going to
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  Speaker 1: capture this thing. But if that's what it takes, then
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  Speaker 1: I you can go I don't need your brilliance. That's
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  Speaker 1: what That's what it did, and I will I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to say here, like actors of all schools can be.
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  Speaker 1: I know this is true. It's not just method actors.
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  Speaker 1: People who are just famous can be. People have liked
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  Speaker 1: that I'm an artiste vibe can be. But I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: there's something about like I was reading the examples in
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  Speaker 1: that BuzzFeed article about how people have done this, this
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  Speaker 1: just sounds like a check to me right right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean also there's a crossover to where they really
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  Speaker 4: say this is for film, and it's so much like
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  Speaker 4: the Last Tango. I was trying to remember which movie was,
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  Speaker 4: which was Marlon Brando and they assault a woman on
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  Speaker 4: camera and the director and Marlon Brando the director being
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  Speaker 4: cause I don't want to just leave one predator name
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  Speaker 4: out being Bernardo Bortolucci. They hadn't made this plan not
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  Speaker 4: to tell her what was going to happened in order
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  Speaker 4: to get her real quote reactions in order to her
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  Speaker 4: essentially and the fact that that case is so infamous
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  Speaker 4: that no, and the two of them are still like revered,
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  Speaker 4: Marlon Brando and Bortolucci really are just still revered. I
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  Speaker 4: think the conversation has gotten bigger about it and understanding,
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  Speaker 4: but like that level of it, like it becomes it
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  Speaker 4: needs to be real conversation, which takes it to the
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  Speaker 4: point of like why.
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  Speaker 3: What what what for you? Why? Why does what is
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  Speaker 3: it doing for you?
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  Speaker 4: That you need this to happen in this route and
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  Speaker 4: it's giving you a thrill and that you really want
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  Speaker 4: to have it on camera.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the same thing with like.
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  Speaker 4: The shining with the shining and how they tortured fall
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  Speaker 4: like they tortured her because she wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Quote unquote real enough in her reaction, Like.
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  Speaker 4: It's such a way that it is white men wanting
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  Speaker 4: to torture women.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And one of the examples the BuzzFeed article gave
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  Speaker 1: was I never heard of this. I've never seen this movie,
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  Speaker 1: but it was Meryl Streep and Dustin Hoffman. Apparently Dustin
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  Speaker 1: Hoffman slapped her in a scene and it wasn't he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to, and he said he did it to
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  Speaker 1: like get her in character. Meryl Streep is one more
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  Speaker 1: Oscars than like anyone. You tell me you need to
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  Speaker 1: get her in character.
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  Speaker 3: No, they hate each other, right?
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  Speaker 4: Did I feel like they really like disliked each other
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  Speaker 4: and never wanted to work with each other again with
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  Speaker 4: relevance to things like that, Maybe I look it up
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  Speaker 4: before I'm missing I present myself here.
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  Speaker 1: But the director apparently told Meryl Streeplake, I'm sorry you
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  Speaker 1: didn't need that, and she like nailed this scene, and
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: she nailed the scene and as she would have, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so it's just so like you made it about
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  Speaker 1: you and you belittled her at the same time, and
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  Speaker 1: you hit her.
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  Speaker 4: Apparently he's abused her a lot. But that's a first
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  Speaker 4: literal quote that I see from a headline, because it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't the only time. Doesn't Hoffin allegedly abused Meryl Streep
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  Speaker 4: And this was from screen rant. So like the fact
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  Speaker 4: that he continue to do that to this woman, who
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  Speaker 4: I think had already been nominated for things. She even
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  Speaker 4: those is one of her earlier films.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the thing. I don't even know if
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  Speaker 1: he know he was on that list. He is a
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  Speaker 1: method actor.
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  Speaker 2: I just it feels like so much of it is.
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  Speaker 1: It is causing harm to someone else, and then you're
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  Speaker 1: taking credit for like I'm sure probably in private conversations
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  Speaker 1: he said, you know, I made Meryl Streep who she is,
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  Speaker 1: Like I was the one she complains about it, but I,
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  Speaker 1: by doing this right helps her get further. And we've
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  Speaker 1: even talked about it with Bridgett, like the is it
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  Speaker 1: Evan rachel Wood the music video? And I was thinking
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  Speaker 1: about it too, because I was lying awake as I
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  Speaker 1: want to do, and I'm wrestling with these topics, and
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about the audition process and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: did Jared leto who again was in that movie for
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes. Did he start the method acting for the
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  Speaker 1: audition or did he start it after, Because if you
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  Speaker 1: did the audition you got the part, then I think
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  Speaker 1: you've already proven you can do it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you need this method. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he was doing it before, but like I just don't.
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  Speaker 3: Bad actor, maybe he needs it. There's a few that's
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  Speaker 3: like you, genuinely good.
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  Speaker 2: He don't need this.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe Jared Letto from These Infamous.
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  Speaker 4: Times, Robby Jordan, Catilano, Catalana anyway needed can't do it
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  Speaker 4: without it, especially for a thirty second like preview, because
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  Speaker 4: he has that baseless in acting.
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  Speaker 3: They doesn't even about to get attacked on't I mate?
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  Speaker 1: I'm just why I tell you we're ruffling some actor
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  Speaker 1: feathers right now.
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  Speaker 4: Philip Seymour Hoffmann, who was also an infamous method actor.
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  Speaker 3: He was genuinely great. He was genuinely great.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he needed it again like that
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  Speaker 4: kind of goes to that same level.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's that introvert thing, because he was an introvert.
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  Speaker 4: I think for the most part that really felt like
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  Speaker 4: his craft came from all the emotions. I'm assuming these
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: are like things that I've seen as at an alleged
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  Speaker 4: so maybe that's the different level. But like again, there's
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  Speaker 4: nothing about Jared Leto's performances and any performances that I'm like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he's so great unless.
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  Speaker 3: He has to be, unless he can be extreme.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting because I wonder if I did think about
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  Speaker 1: this too, because I was wondering if there's some level
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  Speaker 1: of insecurity around it of like I want I when
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  Speaker 1: the critics come when the awards season rolls around, I
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  Speaker 1: want them to know I lived in the the winter
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  Speaker 1: tundra to prepare like quote dedication I put into this
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  Speaker 1: role and this character, which again we've talked about this before.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was in our Intimacy Coordinator episode. But personally,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a good actor, then that doesn't really necessarily
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  Speaker 1: factor into what I'm thinking, and in fact, it might
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  Speaker 1: take me out performance. Like I'm not sitting there thinking, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 1: they definitely lived in the winter dundrum.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Like so, I wonder if there's some kind of thing
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  Speaker 1: I've been guilty of this too, where you want to
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  Speaker 1: prove when the critics come at you like but I
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  Speaker 1: did all this research though, like I at all this.
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  Speaker 2: I think research is good. It's the it's the kind
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  Speaker 2: of unhingedness, unhinedness.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I clearly have strong thoughts about this of making
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  Speaker 1: everyone else uncomfortable and putting like yourself, your performance before everything,
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  Speaker 1: because in a good I think in a good movie
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  Speaker 1: or a good production, everyone's working together in a way,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes somebody is such a good actor a method
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  Speaker 1: or not that you are scared of them because they're
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  Speaker 1: doing so well and you don't hang out, but you
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  Speaker 1: still work together really well. Right, you know this isn't
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  Speaker 1: actually going to kill me.
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  Speaker 4: Well, like as I'm looking at Jared Leto's like list,
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  Speaker 4: like he played a serial killer. I don't know any
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  Speaker 4: of his films, and he did get several awards, so
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: people are probably mad at me.
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  Speaker 3: Like he is a great actor.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a great actor when he has someplace
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  Speaker 4: of extreme like that's different when it's drama drama versus
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: like actual minute like detailed acting, that's different, I say,
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  Speaker 4: as non actor. But like, yeah, he won for Dallas
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  Speaker 4: Buyers Club. I remember he played a trans woman, which
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  Speaker 4: spruffled a lot of feathers because he's not a trans woman,
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  Speaker 4: So how did he method act for that? You know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean? Like there's a whole biting he there's
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  Speaker 4: nowhere in life, ever, ever, ever that he can understand
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  Speaker 4: what a trans woman has been, and so like there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of questions in his method and when he
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: wants to be method and how deep of a method
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: actor he wants to be. I say, this really may
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: really just don't like Jared Letto apparently.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry that.
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  Speaker 2: His autograph. I had a huge crush on him when I.
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  Speaker 4: Was when he was acting like Emo, like Emo man
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  Speaker 4: young who wasn't creepy and all the other things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to say, like, when I think
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  Speaker 1: about I've done some acting, and when I think about why,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like imagining things and I like
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: but I feel like I would never ever maybe part
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  Speaker 1: of his conditioning as a woman, I don't I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: want to make people so uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to do.
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  Speaker 3: Like that.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there's a health thing too, where you
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: can be like, Okay, let me turn this off for now.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: It's a stressful role. I'll be better if I can
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  Speaker 1: like recharge. I know some people will argue with me,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: But I just don't I get the sentiment of I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: want to really get in the mindset of this per se.
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  Speaker 1: But I also don't think that's a super healthy thing
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  Speaker 1: to just do it and completely erase yourself and not
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: think about it anybody else anyway.
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  Speaker 4: I mean again, I think I'm going back way back
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  Speaker 4: to like because there has been a big conversation just
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: because the woman may not be enacting doesn't mean it's
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  Speaker 4: not something that's questioned by society because as a person
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: on the outside, For me, I've heard people talking about this,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: We've had people have had this conversation about it's method
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: acting healthy. I think again, like people like Philip Seymour
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Hoffman who died of drug overdose. Like in general, to
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: be famous and to be in that world alone is stressful. Yeah,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: So to like have that other layer of like you
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: want these deep, dark dramas that really get your name
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: out there, which is a lot of like conversation. I
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: think in the acting world, maybe I'm wrong, like big break,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: and often that big break is something controversial and that
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine what kind of toll like just listening
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: to people talk about I had to listen to this
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: one type of music.
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  Speaker 3: In order to get me into this dark place.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I had to think about these deaths and to get
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: to me get to this dark place like these things,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: or I had to go through my childhood trauma to
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: get Like could not imagine living in that for six
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: months to a year saying that I can't let this
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: go or I'm going to fail in this and that
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: in my career. Like there's so many layers to that
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: that you have to have, like a real conversation about
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: what is worth sacrificing forum entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And you know, we do see a lot
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: of unfortunate early deaths in in celebrities, and it's just
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: people harmed. I mean people harmed and not just method acting.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I mean one time I did a scene once with
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: somebody I'm supposed to be pushing and the next day
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I found out he had all spruce it.
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  Speaker 2: I still think about it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I feel so bad about But like those things, I
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: don't know, I just I got a lot of thoughts
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: about it, clearly.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: So maybe we'll come back to talk about with it,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: to be honest.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Well maybe we'll come back and do a full episode
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: on it and not just my rants.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Uh, but apologies to all the Jared Leto lovers.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Apparently I really don't like him. I don't know why
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: it came out. I know I did. I was like
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: this go bad.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: He's the joker.
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