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Gracie Abrams Was “Worried Feeling Secure” in Relationship Would Threaten Her Creativity · On Air with Ryan Seacrest

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  Speaker 1: Ah, it's kiss, Little John and Pitbull. I love my AMMI.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning for you, asks in a moment here at kiss,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for having us on. Got a second date update
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  Speaker 1: on the way as well. Now Tanya's over here talking
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  Speaker 1: about this. When you're happy, can you still be creative? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: So Grazie Abrams is opening up about how falling in
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  Speaker 2: love with her boyfriend Paul Meskal almost made her feel
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  Speaker 2: like she was losing her identity as an artist. So
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  Speaker 2: she did an interview and she said something I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of creative people can relate to. She said,
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  Speaker 2: I was worried feeling secure and stable was threatening my
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  Speaker 2: drive to write music. It freaked me out. She spent
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  Speaker 2: most of her career writing songs about feeling insecure in relationships.
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  Speaker 2: She would put all of her feelings into her music
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  Speaker 2: rather than telling her partner directly. But with Paul, she
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  Speaker 2: actually communicates. She talks it out, And for a songwriter,
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  Speaker 2: that's terrifying, because if you process your feelings in real life,
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  Speaker 2: what do you have left to write about? So that's
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  Speaker 2: the kind The question I wanted to throw at you
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  Speaker 2: is have you ever felt like being happy or comfortable
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  Speaker 2: actually made you less motivated in some way, like you
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  Speaker 2: needed the chaos to push you.
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  Speaker 1: Ah yeah, tistany I think we all have for sure, yes, backroom, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is such a big thing. I feel like losing
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  Speaker 1: yourself in a relationship as like someone who is creative
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  Speaker 1: and like loves that stuff. It's so easy, Like I
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  Speaker 1: definitely have. But then what do you what do you
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  Speaker 1: want more happiness or creativity? Like do you have to pick? Well?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what Gracie was saying is she was
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  Speaker 2: like thinking back to her older self and kind of
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  Speaker 2: writing from like that POV you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So she was still tapping into that thing. And I
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  Speaker 2: feel like what happened with Taylor Swift as she started
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  Speaker 2: also telling stories from like these fictional characters Dorothea's of
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  Speaker 2: the World and YadA, YadA, YadA. So people kind of
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  Speaker 2: just like tap into these like storytelling type things. But
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  Speaker 2: I do think there's something very real about like when
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  Speaker 2: your life is in chaos, you use your creat activity
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  Speaker 2: as like an outlet, and when your life isn't in
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  Speaker 2: that chaos chaotic state, you don't need to process it.
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  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, exactly, like if Sisney and you and I
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  Speaker 1: were happy and in a non chaotic state, the show
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  Speaker 1: would sound like this. I'm confused. Oh gosh, that's what
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  Speaker 1: the show would sound like, right, be nothing to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we need the chaos.
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  Speaker 1: We have to have it controlled, chaos controlled, happy, but
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  Speaker 1: then sometimes not chaos what we need otherwise that I
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  Speaker 1: don't look at me. I love the chaos exactly like
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  Speaker 1: you create it for you and you really do. You
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  Speaker 1: create it and then solve it like you know you're
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  Speaker 1: going to get to the solution, but you want to
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  Speaker 1: end the conclusion, but you want to turn it up
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  Speaker 1: a turn upside, download it. Everyone's gears like hit that
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