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The Valley Heading for Divorce, Amanda’s Summer House Baby Rumor, & RHOC’s Toxic Parenting · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: about things that don't matter, other people's lives on reality TV.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, Lori. In my happy place, Heather. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: into the valley. I've been having some strong opinions about it.
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  Speaker 2: All that being said, As long as people like me
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  Speaker 2: and you are talking about it, then I say it
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  Speaker 2: is a success. Whether you hate the people, are getting
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  Speaker 2: your tubes tied tomorrow because of the show. It's keeping
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  Speaker 2: us talking and a lot of reality shows don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: So let's first give them the props. It is keeping
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  Speaker 2: us talking. Last we saw, they actually went on the
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  Speaker 2: most unfun, horrible Mexican vacation that I think I've ever witnessed.
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  Speaker 2: Did anyone, could we say anyone had a good time
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  Speaker 2: on the strip or was everybody thrilled to go through
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  Speaker 2: customs and get the fuck home to LAX? I think
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  Speaker 2: there is one person who had a great time. Who? Who?
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  Speaker 2: Daniel and Nia's orange baby. Hear me out. Orange? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the orange haired baby.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh.
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  Speaker 2: I thought she was blonde, but okay. It's giving orange. Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That baby was able to escape it all. Okay. Stay
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  Speaker 2: in a dark room. Right. And never had to be
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  Speaker 2: bothered by Daniel and Nia's Birthday sex. Ugh, my God,
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  Speaker 2: you're right. Thank you. She almost had to be subjected
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  Speaker 2: to that. When are we going to have this birthday sex?
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  Speaker 2: When are we going to plan it? What's up, dude?
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  Speaker 2: Can he stop calling her dude? And she's not the
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  Speaker 2: only woman he calls dude, though it is the biggest
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  Speaker 2: name of affection for his gorgeous Miss America wife is dude.
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  Speaker 2: He calls Lala dude. He calls Jasmine dude. He calls
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  Speaker 2: everybody dude. He, you know, there was times where I
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  Speaker 2: felt like, let the guy have a drink and move
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  Speaker 2: gyratus hips because this trip is the worst. But this
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  Speaker 2: last episode, I think the reason people are so compelled
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  Speaker 2: to talk about it, it was so hard as a
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  Speaker 2: woman to watch another woman. And I've seen couples like this. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: this is the first time I'm thinking of this couple. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Where I really felt for the woman. She, too, married
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  Speaker 2: her lover of her life young. And there was a
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  Speaker 2: time he was sober for many years, and there was
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  Speaker 2: a time where then the drinking had begun again. And
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  Speaker 2: she still wanted to have dinners with other couples and things.
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  Speaker 2: And it was really like... Oh, my God. It's like
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  Speaker 2: having like a toddler or somebody, you know, a young
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  Speaker 2: child that isn't well behaved at a restaurant who doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have an iPad for the rest of your life. Like
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  Speaker 2: it's she was managing so much. And she and unlike
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  Speaker 2: my friend that was just managing it at a restaurant,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with a couple of couples. She's managing it
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  Speaker 2: for the world who's now, she knows that the world
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  Speaker 2: is seeing that this isn't a good situation. This isn't
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  Speaker 2: a good marriage. This isn't an example of honoring your
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  Speaker 2: man in God's light, whatever. It just isn't good. And
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  Speaker 2: the coming around, honey, look, Daniel, Daniel, look at me,
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  Speaker 2: look at me, look at your wife, ignore her, ignore her,
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  Speaker 2: ignore her. What does that say? Why would you ignore
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  Speaker 2: someone that you've known for a few years, Lala, who's
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  Speaker 2: having a conversation with you? Why? And then walk away,
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  Speaker 2: walk away, walk away. Can we have a good time? No,
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  Speaker 2: you can't. Nobody had a good time on this trip.
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  Speaker 2: This trip was the fucking worst Mexico trip.
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  Speaker 3: So no reality TV cast trip is supposed to work.
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  Speaker 3: But this one is another level. I mean, just bring
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  Speaker 3: out a buffet and I start to get hives. Brittany
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  Speaker 3: trying to get ranch on a salad. There's no way
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  Speaker 3: she was just eating a salad. We see that later
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  Speaker 3: in her bed.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, the drunk, creepy cult leader, Daniel, let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: And this poor woman who I would maintain, Heather, just
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  Speaker 3: like some guys are too hot and you're like, they're
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  Speaker 3: just too good looking.
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  Speaker 2: Nia's uncomfortably attractive. Her face is ridiculously perfection. It's awful.
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  Speaker 2: And she's so stunning. Hair shiny, perfect teeth. She is stunning.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how these two got together. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: they told us their story. His backstory is interesting in
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  Speaker 2: the church. The grandfather, who's like 96, is still alive.
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  Speaker 2: He started the whatever it is. Red flag. Baptist or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what kind of Christian church it is.
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  Speaker 2: His parents are co-pastors currently in... I forgot what state
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  Speaker 2: it is, but it's not California. And then he came
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  Speaker 2: out here. They were part of another Christian church out here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how he became this child actor person,
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  Speaker 2: being that he was a pastor's kid in Minnesota. That
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  Speaker 2: seems interesting. I just hope and pray that this is
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  Speaker 2: the one instance... because I don't think there's really been any,
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  Speaker 2: where a husband watches a behavior back on a reality
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  Speaker 2: show or a housewife show and doesn't immediately coil up
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  Speaker 2: into their ego and take it even more out on
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  Speaker 2: their wife for putting them, for making them look bad. Like,
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  Speaker 2: will he, with all his training and, you know, spiritual guidance,
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  Speaker 2: will he actually watch it and go, I'm about to
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  Speaker 2: lose my gorgeous tall wife? I don't even know if
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  Speaker 2: she's tall. She might be 5'5. She's taller than him.
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  Speaker 2: But I could lose this gorgeous tall wife who probably
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  Speaker 2: makes more money than he because she's an influencer and
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  Speaker 2: four kids and have to commute from wherever she decides
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  Speaker 2: to leave when she wants to leave Santa Clarita Valley.
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  Speaker 2: And she wants to stay married. All he has to
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  Speaker 2: do is he really just has to give up drinking.
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  Speaker 2: He's got to go to rehab. If he doesn't go
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  Speaker 2: from the reunion... to the rehab place and have a
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  Speaker 2: great fucking time there and give up alcohol forever, this
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  Speaker 2: marriage has no chance.
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  Speaker 3: I am shocked that you think that this is the
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  Speaker 3: reality TV star that's going to look back at the
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  Speaker 3: last few episodes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he is. You hope that, though. I
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  Speaker 2: always have hope for a marriage to stay together with
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  Speaker 2: four small kids. I know that she loves this guy.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of women... They want the fairy tale. They
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  Speaker 2: believe in this kind of patriarchal Christianity. He's the head
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  Speaker 2: of the household. I can be soft. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with it. You can have it. But
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  Speaker 2: she's getting to a point where I think her sadness is, oh, shit.
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  Speaker 2: This is not working out for me. He is not
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  Speaker 2: seeing it. We're four kids in. The best thing that's
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  Speaker 2: happening is that we see that he gets the vasectomy
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  Speaker 2: because whatever happens with them, they don't need a fifth kid.
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  Speaker 2: And he also, if they don't end up together, you
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  Speaker 2: don't want him then having more children that have more
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  Speaker 2: college expenses, more whatever. So even if they break up,
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  Speaker 2: he can go get married to somebody else and make
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  Speaker 2: her life miserable at least twice. her kid's money won't
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  Speaker 2: be split up or whatever. So that's all I can say.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I, I want to believe that, that people
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  Speaker 2: can change and maybe that if this was the ultimate
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  Speaker 2: thing and he seriously got sober, I mean, Lala was
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  Speaker 2: a big boozer on, on the Vanderpump rules, party, party, partied.
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  Speaker 2: She had a moment. She's been sober for seven years.
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  Speaker 2: People can do it, you know? Um, And maybe, and
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  Speaker 2: part of it was maybe seeing that behavior playback. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. See, I don't think it's... Didn't work for
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  Speaker 2: Shanna Badour. No, but I don't think this is a
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  Speaker 2: matter of alcoholism or drunk. Okay. I think this is
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  Speaker 2: his personality. Possibly.
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  Speaker 3: Because the let's goes happen way before drink and his
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  Speaker 3: facial contortions and his personality. Yes, it gets way worse
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  Speaker 3: when he drinks. But unlike Lala, his just state of
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  Speaker 3: being sucks.
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  Speaker 2: Period.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Daniel. It's not a great personality. Well, I'm also thinking, though,
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  Speaker 2: in his defense, like we've only seen this storyline for
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  Speaker 2: the last three years. Well, this is my first season. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe the first season, it was more about... I
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  Speaker 2: don't remember what the first season was. Second season was
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  Speaker 2: Jax and Brittany because that was the demise of their relationship.
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  Speaker 2: And in that, Jax wanted to go after Nia and
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  Speaker 2: Danny because he wanted the heat taken off of him.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Jax was smart enough and had real
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  Speaker 2: evidence that he was drinking a lot in the bar.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't the perfect couple. that they pretended to be
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  Speaker 2: or hoped to present or wanted to or want to be.
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  Speaker 2: It could be that at home things are chill and
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  Speaker 2: now in public and cameras and everything. That's the other
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  Speaker 2: thing is that now they've put their life out there.
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  Speaker 2: There's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube. They
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  Speaker 2: chose to go this route versus just traditional acting and
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  Speaker 2: modeling work. They're benefiting from like her, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure getting tons of brand deals and things. And so now,
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  Speaker 2: now we have to manage it. It's like a ship
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  Speaker 2: sinking and she's putting a bandaid over here and a
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  Speaker 2: bandaid over here and the waters keep leaking. And then,
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  Speaker 2: oh my God, there's a leak over here. Daniel, Daniel,
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  Speaker 2: look at your wife, Daniel, look at your wife. It's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: The birthday party was so bad. Yes. And the amount
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  Speaker 2: of devotion and I get a little jealous, Heather, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to tell you this. No one else. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: No one listen.
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  Speaker 3: Like, If my husband puts his hand on his face
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  Speaker 3: in a weird way, I get grossed out. Sometimes he
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  Speaker 3: talks with like a lift. This woman, the fact her
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  Speaker 3: vagina hasn't dried up like a raisin in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the.
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  Speaker 2: I think it has. When he said, when's the birthday?
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  Speaker 2: She was so grateful to have a baby there. Orange baby.
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  Speaker 2: She was so grateful to say, well, she's going to
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  Speaker 2: be in our room. You know, it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: the nanny has to have her time off. Thank God.
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  Speaker 2: Can I ask you something about that? And I got
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  Speaker 2: every excuse in the world for not wanting to bang
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  Speaker 2: my husband of 30 years. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But the baby in the room, the baby is only
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  Speaker 3: a baby, right? It's not like six. Like that's, isn't
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  Speaker 3: it like in a crib? I don't know what babies
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  Speaker 3: do anymore. Mine are like a hundred years old. Well, no,
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  Speaker 3: of course people, she could, and the baby's not going
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  Speaker 3: to know. It's not in the bed with him, but
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  Speaker 3: she doesn't want to.
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  Speaker 2: Also, she's tired and it's the worst trip ever and
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  Speaker 2: she's mad at him. So she doesn't want to, but-
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  Speaker 2: The cameras are right there as she's finishing doing her
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  Speaker 2: hair and he's like, we're going to have some birthday sex.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, well, and the baby's going to be
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  Speaker 2: in the room and the nanny has to have her
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  Speaker 2: nights off because we're going to the party without the baby,
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  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 3: So what's interesting to note, Heather? is that this big
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  Speaker 3: birthday baby had an opportunity to bang some birthday sex out.
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  Speaker 3: And instead of following his disciple, Nia, back to the room,
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  Speaker 3: even though Bravo had taken down the cameras, production went
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  Speaker 3: to sleep, and even Manuel at the bar was saying,
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  Speaker 3: you know, lights out, he went to the bar alone.
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  Speaker 3: ordered a tequila with Sprite, which is a huge sign
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  Speaker 3: of alcoholism. Why is it such a huge sign? By
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  Speaker 3: yourself or the drink order? I don't know. There's something
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  Speaker 3: about that. But I love it for Danny. I love
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  Speaker 3: that Daniel, at the end of the night, knowing cameras
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  Speaker 3: are on, which is fascinating when I talk to these
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  Speaker 3: reality TV stars, they do forget cameras are on.
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  Speaker 2: They do. And also, I just think you forget also
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  Speaker 2: because you're probably drunk. He's probably five drinks. If we
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  Speaker 2: counted the First of all, he's probably sneaking drinks. And
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  Speaker 2: then you're thinking that probably the first drink was when
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  Speaker 2: you spent the afternoon on the boat. So probably the
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  Speaker 2: first drink was by noon. He probably had five on
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  Speaker 2: the boat, came back, had to get ready for the dinner,
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  Speaker 2: maybe took a nap, maybe took a shower, probably had
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  Speaker 2: a drink in the room. Heather, why was the room
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  Speaker 2: so dark? It was so dark and depressing, their hotel room.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It was all... I mean... And then
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  Speaker 2: the Tom... I mean... Tom Sandoval, he just like slept
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  Speaker 2: and- You mean Schwartzy. Oh, sorry, Tom Schwartz. But Tom
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  Speaker 2: Sandoval's probably sleeping right now. Well, we'll get into him
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  Speaker 2: in a minute. Yeah, Schwartzy had a hangover. That's a shock. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I think Michelle is very- Michelle and Lacey, that
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  Speaker 2: was a really great moment that they're just like, who
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  Speaker 2: wants to film with their ex and the ex's new girlfriend?
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  Speaker 2: But we're all getting paid- To be on the worst
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  Speaker 2: vacation on earth. And at least they're both decent women,
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  Speaker 2: decent moms. And I don't think either one of them
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  Speaker 2: want to fuck Jesse. My hot take is maybe they
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  Speaker 2: like each other. Because they definitely like each other more
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  Speaker 2: than Jesse. That would give it a storyline, Heather. I
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  Speaker 2: think at this point, Michelle realizes that when her daughter
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  Speaker 2: is there, she probably has a good time because Lacey's
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  Speaker 2: daughter is the same age.
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  Speaker 3: And Lacey seems like a good mom. Listen, she needs
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  Speaker 3: a babysitter for when she's with Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Dre. Right, right. We'll see if that's still going on.
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  Speaker 2: It is. Oh, it is? Okay. I also think what
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  Speaker 2: she said is true. It's like she probably told herself,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that he wasn't affectionate, he wasn't loving, and
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  Speaker 2: that's just him. And then to see that he can
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: be a good boyfriend to somebody else right in front
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  Speaker 2: of her I understood Jesse's point because he was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: if her googly-eyed boyfriend was still around, she'd be like
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  Speaker 2: humping him in front of me. Totally true. But I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was such an interesting thing because I remember
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  Speaker 2: I had another friend and she and her husband had
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  Speaker 2: a horrible, volatile marriage situation. And they broke up, got divorced.
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  Speaker 2: He married someone else. They had a child. And the
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  Speaker 2: two kids would go and spend time with them. And
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  Speaker 2: she's like, What are they like together? And the kids
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  Speaker 2: were like, great. They're great. It's not always that your
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  Speaker 2: ex is the worst person on earth. It can be
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  Speaker 2: that you... Bring out the worst in each other or
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  Speaker 2: you're not a good match or they have fallen out
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  Speaker 2: of love with you. They're not attracted to you anymore
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  Speaker 2: because you turned them off or whatever because of the
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  Speaker 2: things you did and you didn't realize you were doing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a long relationship. That's why no two
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  Speaker 2: marriages are the same and you can't. But I find
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  Speaker 2: that a very interesting element of the show. Like my
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  Speaker 2: husband never has my back at restaurants.
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  Speaker 3: I could get a sandwich, like a turkey sandwich, and
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  Speaker 3: there could be a shoe inside with a puppy tail.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll say, oh, do you mind? I got the right.
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  Speaker 2: And he'll say to the way she's fine. This is fine.
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  Speaker 3: If I saw him at a restaurant with this next
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  Speaker 3: toe and the woman's like, I don't have my tap
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  Speaker 3: water the right temperature.
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  Speaker 2: And my husband goes. Yeah, now. Fix this woman's water.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Break my heart. But that is actually very funny, but
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  Speaker 2: also a great point. Like, yeah, I would like to
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  Speaker 2: hear from other women. Yeah. That, I mean, on a light,
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  Speaker 2: on a pre-marriage note, I know girls that have taken
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  Speaker 2: a little school project, aka a boyfriend. I know what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying. Got him a better haircut.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Got him some cuter clothes. Gave him a glow up.
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  Speaker 2: And then four years later, when they're like ready, okay,
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  Speaker 2: where's my ring? They break up. And now he's been,
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  Speaker 2: it's like Frankenstein. Now he is at a level that
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  Speaker 2: other people will purchase him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because you fixed that. They think you're done for the day,
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  Speaker 2: but they don't know about the drawer. The drawer. Just
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  Speaker 2: the one square before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching.
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  Speaker 2: You deserve a treat.
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  Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
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  Speaker 2: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
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  Speaker 5: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: what would you do if it was given back?
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: started crying.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: happens next.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: not going to pull punches. You can use your voice
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: even if it's shaped.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Anyway, speaking of marriage, Luke says, I don't know that
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a wedding is going to happen with Kristen. I find
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: it fascinating. There's He likes to fish and hunt. I
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: don't know what his career was before he met her
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and became a reality star on a fucking billboard on
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Ventura Boulevard. Reality TV is the only form of entertainment
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: where because you slept with someone who was already a
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: reality TV star, you can too be a star, Britney included.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: It's kind of amazing. It's really kind of amazing. And
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: so now they're this couple that we're watching, which... Their
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: story is very real, though depressing. It's very real. But
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I just saw her recently on Instagram and she is like,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I took the shot. I've lost 20 pounds. I'm excited
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: for summer. Let's go. Good for her. Seems happier. Hopefully
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: they're past the postpartum stage in every way and they
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: can find why they ever liked each other in the
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: first place. Well, here's my feelings on Kristen Doughty.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Shot or not, she's boring. She's a whiner.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I didn't like her on Vanderpump. I don't like her
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: on here. I don't understand the look.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Of it all.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: That he moved to L.A., Why? I don't know what
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: his job was before. Was he just like a farmer
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: or something? I don't get it. And then she's like, well,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: he doesn't like it here because he can't hunt and whatever.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, then how did he end up here?
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, do they meet on like a Tinder? I
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: need to know that backstory. Oh, I do want to
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: know it too. I'm sure it's out there. I'm sure
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: a juicy scooper knows that. I don't understand how these
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: two got together. I think he's low key kind of cute. Yeah,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I mean, they have the cutest baby ever. No,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I like the orange baby. Okay, well, I think all
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: babies are cute. Speaking of fishermen, we didn't talk about
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: that fish that Luke pretended to catch. Pretended? What do
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: you mean? There's no way he caught that fish on
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: that Mexican trip. Why would he lie about that? Why
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: would anyone lie on reality TV? I don't know. Okay, well,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I don't care about fishing, so I don't care if
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: he did lie about it. I don't care. It was
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: weird that he was fishing inside of a rock. That's
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. No, it was like he was... On
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: a rock. I'm like, is there like a tiny piece
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: of water there? Why was his fishing rod thing between
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: two rocks? Why wasn't he like out in the sea?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: If I'm Kristen, I don't care that he's out all
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: night getting drunk. I'm like, why were you in the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: middle of a rock fishing? And their room was dark, too.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: This makes me never want to have kids. Wait, I
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: already have them. OK, so then we get into Brittany. Oh, yeah.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what's up with Brittany. I
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: think Brittany is allergic to plastic surgery. I just don't
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: think plastic surgery is what works for her. I think
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: she's unfortunately having too much of it. I don't know
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: who this plastic surgeon is. Mm-hmm. I heard he was
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the same one that did Jax's four nose jobs. So
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they keep going to him and
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: why it took four times to do a nose job. So,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: you know, there's some other TV doctors... It might be
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: because he was using his nose on illegal substances.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Oh! Who?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: No, I know, but.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Allegedly. The pasta. Anyway, so, I mean... She's a beautiful girl.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that's the problem. I think
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: she needs to stop with that. It's so sad. The
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: tummy tuck and the boob reduction and the chin lipo
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: from two years ago that I don't think took. I
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: don't notice any difference. And she's a beautiful girl. And
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: it's just like, maybe just stop that. And then imagine
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: you still have like open wounds and you have to
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: go to Mexico.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Didn't seem to stop her, Heather.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I know, but you have to go because of the job.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: But like, does anything sound worse than you're like still
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: wearing bands around your body and you have to go
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: to a Mexico hot trip?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: To be fair, she didn't wear the bands after that
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: fabulous gay bar they went to.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: She did. They tried to get them on her, but
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: she was eating French fries in bed instead. I thought
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: that's what she had on the back of the low
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: cut dress.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: But then they went home and they tried to get
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: the focaccia girdle on. And instead she ordered rooster. Listen,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I love drunk eats. I just like to do it
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: at the bar. I also think, first of all, she's
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: allergic to something. And we thought it was Jack's, but
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: he's been gone and it's not.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: It's not shellfish. It's not shellfish. I think it could
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: be tequila. I think this is what Brittany should do.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: She should get a sponsorship, a brand deal, with one
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: of those allergy testing something. This is phenomenal. And she
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: needs to be tested for something. I bet she'll find
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: that she's allergic to tequila and... And good choices? Maybe
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: all alcohol, but like definitely tequila and maybe bad choices
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: in men. And then like maybe some other things. It
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: could be something like, who knows? It could be gluten.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: It could be something. There's something going on there that
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: plastic surgery is not fixing. And that's what I think
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: that needs to be her next thing. I think she's
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: been so focused on... probably her son's diet and everything
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: like that because she's such a good mom. Now it's
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: time to like, she needs to get like a wellness
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: thing and figure out what is going on. See, the
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: fans and the Juicy Scoopers don't realize the heart you
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: have and that you really are at this from your heart.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: You want Brittany to be better. I want Brittany to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: be better. I sometimes worry about Kristen and Luke and like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you know, this baby just was born. Like, Where is
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: this child going to go to private school in LA?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Is this show going to continue for the next 20 years? Like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: what is the plan? Not everybody has a Vanderpump Hotel
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: to fall back on. I don't know. I don't know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: but it's... Worrisome. It's a lot. But it's entertaining. Now,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Zach has a boyfriend who... Oh, I thought that was
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: his child that he adopted, Benji. That's his boyfriend. This
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: is my first season. I thought that was his child. No,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: that is his boyfriend, Ed. He is cute, but I
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: thought it was interesting because when Lala was going off
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and she's like, you Polly Pocket piece of poo or whatever,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: she's talking about Danny, about how short he is. And Benji,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: who is also height challenged, is laughing. And I was like, well,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know that that's what is it, the putt
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: calling the kettle black? I'm like, I don't think she'd
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: be laughing at the Pauly Pocket conversation because you're pretty tiny.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: But I love that he did though. He's saying, he's
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: laughing too. And I'm short and it's funny. Good for him. Yeah.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Are you sure that's his? We never see a confession
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: with him or with Jasmine's wife to be. So they
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: seem like they're pleasant, lovely people. But what are you
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: going to do if they're not an outgoing personality? Then
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: we don't hear from them. So, I mean, I guess
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: that says a lot about Luke that he became such
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: a big storyline person. Janet, fan or not?
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: First season, and I will say this about Janet. I
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: don't know that she needs to be on the show.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: She's not exciting or bringing much. But she called out Daniel.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: And that warms my heart. And she's not annoying. I
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: do know from people that she was in past seasons.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: But this season, she's tempered. And she's not loud, and
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: she keeps... And she's bisexual.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: That's new. Yeah, she has the hots for Michelle. Yeah. So, okay.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, that might be the most exciting thing that's
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: happened on this season. That and maybe seeing Daniel in
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: his kitchen back in Santa Clarita, wherever it is.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Santa Clarita. By the way, he was sober doing this, Heather.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: This was not drunk. Flexing all the time. What's the flexing?
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Daniel does. You know, like we said, this is... You know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of hours of film. Okay. And they
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: put it together to make them- You're giving him a break.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Look like a bad couple. There could have been some
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: times where he made her breakfast in bed and filmed
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the whole thing while he came back from the park
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: with all four kids. We didn't see that. I don't
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: want to see that. I doubt it, but I don't
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: think so. Yeah. Okay, moving on. Bethany Frankel made a
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: big announcement about that she decided to stop her podcast
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: at iHeart.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Which is interesting because iHeart also had a big thing
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: of letting a lot of people go, including hosts of podcasts,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: just at the same time. Just at the same time.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Just coincidentally made iHeart's job easier. Okay. Because she was like, hey,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to do this anymore. And they're like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: oh my God, that's so great. Because we had to
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: cut a bunch of shows and yours wasn't one of them.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: But now maybe you can save someone else's. So it's like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: you know, she's always doing charity work. And I literally
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: was just asking a friend like two weeks ago, does
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: she still have her show? Like, I didn't know. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: she would just rant about things for 15 minutes. The best.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: The show that was good of the podcast that she
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: was getting on is when she just decided to rip
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: on her ex-husband and what a horrible, horrible divorce she
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: went through. And there is no doubt that it wasn't
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: a horrible, horrible divorce. Do you know? that Jason Hoppy
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: former star of Bethany's Getting Married and Bethany Turns 40
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: ex-husband is the father of a baby with his girlfriend
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: who was the nanny of Sarah Jessica Parker this is
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: true This is some scoop. Yep, this is true. Say
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: it again for the back of the church. Sarah Jessica
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Parker had a nanny. Had a nanny who she is
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: still friendly with. Of course, her kids are grown now.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: She has twin girls and a boy that are all
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: like college or older, okay? That nanny, who she remained
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: friendly with, fell in love with Jason Hoppy. And they
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: have a little baby together who is Brynn's half-sibling. Where
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: does Mr. Hoppy live? Because he's from close to where
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I'm from in Pennsylvania. I think he's still in the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: New York area. How does he meet the nanny? And
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: then they moved to Florida.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: And I think it's fine because she's at an age
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: where she can... make her own plans with her dad
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: and whatever. I don't think it really involves Bethany anymore.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: But remember in And Just Like That, were you a
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: fan of watching it? No. In Just Like That, Sarah
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Jessica Parker is with somebody and they're talking about going
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: to the Hamptons for the summer. And she's like, one
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: of them said, I don't want to go to the
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Hamptons or whatever in the summer anymore. And she's like, why?
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Because Bethany Frankel is there. And it was just this
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: weird line that a couple of people picked up. And
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: some people thought it was because Andy Cohen is best
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: friends with Sarah Jessica Parker. And it was weird to
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: get a dig. That could be it. But it's also
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: that her former nanny is Jason Hoppy's partner. I love this.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: But anyway, she did a couple episodes about her horrible divorce,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: and I'm telling you it was riveting. But for legal reasons,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: or maybe because it was bothering her daughter, she had
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: to take that down. But we all heard it. Yeah,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: but it was only like two episodes.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: And so anyway, she's done with it. She says she makes,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: you know, $ 200 million a year. No, I don't think
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: she said that. I think she said she makes $ 20
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: million a year. on just being an influencer where she'll
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: do this thing where she'll be like, oh my God,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: look how bad my hair dye is. This is the
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: worst hair dye job I've ever had. This, who does this?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Why does it look so bad? And then four weeks later,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: she's like, I'm so excited to announce that I paired
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: up with this hair dye company. And now I'm a partner.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: You're telling me that deal wasn't already in the works.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Is she eating chicken salad the whole time? Yeah. She's
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: making her money, filming it 24 seven. And she doesn't
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: need to do the podcast anymore. So be it. Who cares?
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Not a fan of Bethany Frankel. She created podcasting, by
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the way. Not a fan. I loved her on New York, though. Well,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: speaking of this, this comes from Housewife Historian, too. Look
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: at that airbrush. She only airbrushed, Ramona airbrushed just herself
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and not Avery, her daughter. And Avery, who is also
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: very attractive, who is about 32 years old or so,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: looks older than 65 year old or 68. I don't
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: even know how old she is. Ramona. Phenomenal. Like not
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: a freckle on her chest, smooth neck, full cheeks.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I mean that I've done some bad parenting things, many,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: but that is some evil.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Again, like Bethany, I'm not a fan of Ramona. Well,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: you know what? I'll tell you exactly what happened, okay?
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, Lori. Okay. A really great time with my daughter
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: in Paris.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: We looked really great. And, you know, Avery's not like me, okay?
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: She's not really faint. She doesn't really care how she looks.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: And I said, do you want me to just do
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: a little filter so we both look a little fuller
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and younger? And she's like, no, Mom.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I like the way you look. I don't have to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: wear a lot of makeup. I'm really proud of myself.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I go, fine. Well, I'm going to touch up my self-fit.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: She didn't want me to touch.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Her up, okay?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Is it weird that I can watch this for hours?
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: This is my friend Paige. Okay. And she... Paige Dave
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: is her Instagram. So she's very funny and she does
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: little fun takes and things.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: And.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: She had some people send her a video of this
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: girl talking about in a car doing a hot take about, hey,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: we're millennials, but at least we're not Gen Z who
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: go out to dinner with a hoodie and those star
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: zit patches on your face. Okay. Funny, right? You laugh.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: It gets sent to her. It's her body in this car,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the bathing suit, the thing. This company put an AI
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: girl on her head who's brunette. It's her voice. It's
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: just not her face. It's not Paige's face. And then
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: they put like star tattoos on the girl's neck, I
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: think to kind of camouflage the fact that it's a
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: different head. I don't know. Or just make her look hipper.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: And Paige was so funny. She was like, I mean,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I'm cute, but this girl was cuter. This AI version
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: of me was cuter. I have freckles, but she kind
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: of had cuter freckles and was thinner. And it was
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: my joke and my take. And she sent it to
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Instagram and a bunch of her followers. Followers have also
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: sent it to Instagram and they won't take it down
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: and they won't acknowledge it. Well, very recently, Meta, which
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: is Instagram, has a feature now where they can take
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: your likeness, AI it and use it. Now, it may
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: have been turned off in the last day or so.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: But that is not cool. Right. Wow. And so that
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: was amazing. Like, that's a scary thing. So hopefully... But
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: she'll be the leader in that this doesn't get allowed.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: And if you do see it happening, hopefully Instagram will
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: then take down that person's account. Dangerous out there, Heather.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Real dangerous.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, season 20 of Real Housewives of OC premiered. And
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts? I'm so excited. Okay, great. Did
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I just do that? Did I like do that?
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I am excited because unlike the Valley, this is an
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: organic group of friends.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: They have history. I buy it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: They've been around forever. It's a beautiful setting. And the
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: drama is a little bit more, even though it's immature, mature.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: And I just, maybe it's the nostalgia in me. It
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: makes me feel nostalgic. effing old. I, I just posted
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: a video of what I look like in 2006 and
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: what Vicki looked like. It's been a minute, but I'm excited.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I think the premiere was strong and I'm there for it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I just had Peter was, my husband was just
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: with me and he goes, Oh my God, look what
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: just popped up on my Facebook memories. And it was
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: when we went to Vicki's house, my family, a couple
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: of days after 4th of July, she was having a
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: pool party and We didn't know that it was being filmed. Wow.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: It was being filmed. And I met her through a
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: book agent. My book agent was talking to her about
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: possibly doing a book. And Brianna was a fan of
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Chelsea Lately. So he was like, oh, they'd love for
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: you to come over. I come over and Tamara's there.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And Sophia has got the floaties on. My God. My
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: son is just a little older than Sophia, but he
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: could swim. And The scene is she's crying with Simon
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: about Simon being harsh on the son, Ryan. And in it,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: you just see my little four-year-old, who's now, you know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: at Oregon, University of Oregon, going up the stairs and
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: going down the grotto slide and going up the stairs
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: and going down. It's like in the show. Like, it's
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: been so long. It's like crazy. It's so long.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: And I hope that the grottos are gone now. Well,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: she sold that house. Yeah, but I just hope in general.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I think grottos are coming back. You say grottos are
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: coming back. Everything comes back. Okay, well, hopefully Brooks is not. Yeah,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Brooks is not.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: He's happily married. That's incredible that you were there. That's
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: really cool. So, I mean, yeah, whatever. It's been a
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: long time. But we see Vicky and Shannon. And, you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: they are older women. You don't, you're not as agile
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: as you once were. However, I think it's a little.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if it's an act or
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: whatever with Shanna Bedore, but it's like, I mean, or
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: if they just take all the scenes where she's like, oh,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and falling over and she's on the bounce house at
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Heather's party. Why would she get in the bounce house?
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Because she knows like this is what they want and
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: she wants to be a good employee. And, you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: her whole life is just walking the two dogs to
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: get a puppy cone and she's You know, I'm like,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: rest in peace. Yes. I find it just like enough
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: with the pratfalls and stuff like that. Also, because you
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: shouldn't try to do that. You could actually hurt yourself. Well,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: so I'm someone, I relate to Shannon. Yeah.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: And the fact that that is what I'm like, and
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: I am twisted and turning and the scars. The skims
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: are that's what they call space skims are and I
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: fall out of cars. I recently was on a vacation
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: and I was going into a boutique and I slipped
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: and broke my foot and I spilled coffee. So I
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: don't for someone who does it. I feel like it
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: is real.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I do. I don't know what I want. wish more
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: for it not to be real or for it to
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: be real.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Because you don't want someone to act that stupid.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah. I don't know. And I guess if
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: you go back a bunch of seasons, she couldn't do
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: an exercise class and things like that.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: So, okay.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: It's real. I think she looks great though. Also, I
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: just think like Vicky, who's been like, I work, I work,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I work, I work. I'm like, I don't know, at
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: 64 years old, I don't know if all this work
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: has paid off. Like, I mean, we're just being honest.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: She's stuck in Mexico. I'm like, you have a decent
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: condo in Puerto Vallarta, which is like, whatever. You seem
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: to have a nice house, but you've had your own
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: business for 30 years. You've been on a TV show
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: for 20 years.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: It is weird.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Is this something that you should be bragging about? Like,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I would think that you would be. Maybe that's why
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: she was so fucking jealous of Terry and Heather, because
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: whether they got a little nest egg and made it grow,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think she made her money grow that wisely.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: And look at like what Heather and Terry have built. Like,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: you know, they have makeup lines and all these other things.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, skincare lines and all the TV shows. So, yeah,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I think that's a little... Yeah, I think as people
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: get older, too, she's like, this is... Why don't I
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: have more at 64? I mean....
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: She said something so I thought was snarky, even though
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: her and Andy Cohen, I think, are sleeping together now.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: She said something on Watch What the other night. She's
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: about not getting paid enough for all the work. And
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: even he said, if that's not the most Vicky thing.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, when is it enough, Vic?
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Well, it's listen. She's tried to do other businesses.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: She had Wine by Wives. Didn't work. She had Vicky's Diamonds.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: What?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: She also. It was like a jewelry line. She had,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: you know, different things going on. And, you know, and
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: she always went back to having to do the CODA insurance,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: which is a great career. But still, maybe she didn't
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: do that right. Maybe she shouldn't have had so many
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: people under her. Maybe she should have just been an
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: independent contractor selling it. And you get to just like
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: the way, like the way Mauricio used Kyle to get listings. Yeah.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I said to Kyle. Like before he had the agency,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I said, now there's got to be some women that
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: are fans of yours that are like, well, let's take
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: a listing appointment with Mauricio. Maybe I can be friends
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: with Kyle. And Mauricio knows that. And he brings you
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: to the listing appointment. Has that ever happened? She's like,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: all the time. All the time. Why not? I'm like,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: maybe if Vicki had made it more about get your
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: insurance through me and we can all, you know, and
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: you'll get to be my friend. Maybe that would have
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: been a better way to like, I don't know. Like,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I just don't know that these people utilize this 20
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: years of being on TV with no residuals and no
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: health insurance to the best of their ability. And yes,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I do worry about these people's longevity finances, 401k side businesses.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Am I the only Bravo fan that cares like this? Well,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: You do care a lot.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: We've talked about a business that you could make about,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: just like there are advisors for athletes, there should be for,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: especially the young reality stars. And in terms of Vicky,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: you know, Gina is using the show, and I guarantee you,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: her and her... Fiance Forever are using this platform.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: To sell houses. Gina is the most together one of
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: them all. She got out of a bad marriage, an
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: abusive marriage, and still remains friends with him and his wife.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: The kids have not suffered from that divorce. They have flourished.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: She got a DUI and has been completely so not
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: completely because she says she does gummies, but she doesn't
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: drink alcohol and hasn't gotten another DUI. She got better
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: hair extensions, which is the biggest thing. She got a
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: better house. She's now her husband or fiancee. She's taking
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: care of six kids because it's not shared custody anymore.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: So she's taking on three kids that are not her own.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: And she's doing real estate that will hopefully last after
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: this show doesn't. I mean, is she iconic in the sense,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: does she have the lines?
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: No.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: That we will quote for the next 20 years? No.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: But- I don't worry about her. I go to bed
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: at night not worrying about Gina.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I won't worry about Gina, and I want to thank
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Gina for not making me worry. So who on reality
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: TV are you just sleepless? Okay, well, I'll tell you.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: Gina.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Did you hear what happened to Gina this weekend? Not Gina, sorry. Jen. Jen.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I did, in fact, hear this. So Jen, she put
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: out this post. Yes, my son is the one who
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: started the Lendero fire. Lendero Ranch is where at one
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: time Tamara lived. It's nice. And I don't know if
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Jen lives there right now, but I think she does.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: And it's a cute area inland from the beach. Expensive.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: And he, along with other minor boys, I believe they're
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: all minors. So when trying to figure out which son
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: it is, I believe it's the youngest son who's adopted.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Is it the speeder? The one that went 150? No,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think it is. How many kids does she have?
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: The reason I don't think it is, is because I
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: was doing the math and it said that he was
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: 17 when they were filming that scene and that scene
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: was in February. So I'm guessing that kid might already
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: be 18. And if he was 18, they would have
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: said his name. You think a lot about this. I
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: love it. So I think it could be the younger son.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: He's probably with a bunch of 13 year olds, other kids.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: on their little e-bikes, little Lord of the Flies, little,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: you know, if your friend jumped off a bridge, would
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: you too? Brain not formed, summer days of doing nothing,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: and they started this fire. Thank God nobody got hurt
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: and no real property, like no one's home. But of course,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: we know how bad fires are in California. And now it's,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: you know, it's one thing to have that happen to you,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: but now everybody knows about it because she's a TV star.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: So that's pretty bad. And, you know, and then we've
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: got Emily who, you know, is got a new, like
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: a completely new body. So her whole personality was fat
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: jokes that I'm bringing a turkey into the sauna, turkey
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: sandwich into the sauna because I'm so caring about eating
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: and that's my personality. Now the personality is working out
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: seven days a week and talking about how her son
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: has an eating disorder while she works out seven days
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: a week.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: It is so messed up. And I, this is not
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: a secret. I have a child that suffered terribly from it.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm looking at this mother who's got a huge
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: platform and I'm thinking, shut up. Do you privately. But
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: the fact that your whole being now is thin is
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: bad parenting there. Where Jen's son who set a fire,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Jen may be at no fault for that. But if
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: you are going on TV constantly talking about body image,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: your body being skinny, I feel fat, crying that I
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: am fat.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I think it's bad parenting. I mean, look, she signed
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: up for the show and someone would argue, when you
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: sign up for the show, you sell your souls, you
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: sell your children to Andy Cohen. Okay? You know, and
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: the only way they're not going to be seen is
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: if you have a nasty divorce with your husband and
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the husband says they can't be on the show. Other
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: than that, they're on the show. They don't get paid.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: They do not get paid unless you want to put
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: 500 an episode into an account. Otherwise, they don't get paid.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: And then... She's, how is everybody? Well, Keller's great. Luke
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: is not. And they show their two faces up, Luke
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: and Keller. And I'm like, my God, like this is forever.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: The only thing that I do think is good that
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Bravo and Andy Cohen has done is they started a
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: job that Nepo reality show kids could go to, which
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: is a whole nother franchise. You think those kids could
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: be on there? No, I don't. Do I think this
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: kid's going to write a book like Colin Gosselin? Oh, maybe. Maybe.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he'll be a bestseller author. I
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: don't know. I hope not. I think that. she's, I
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: think that she's a decent person. I don't think she's
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: a bad person. I don't think she's an evil person. No,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I understand that now you're in it. And if you don't,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: and they convince you, you could help with other people.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Other people have helped her discover what was going on
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: with this kid, but to still talk about this child
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: and his medical conditions that forever, 10 years from now
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: when he's in college and someone's like, oh, I'm dating
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: this person. Oh, let me look him up. Oh my God.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: This was, this is this kid. Like, I don't know.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Like you want to, like, I'm just saying you're, you're
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: screwing up someone's career because you are starting the digital history.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know what she could have done in it
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: because if she didn't share it, then she wouldn't be
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: sharing her life. It's, I just think It's a really
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: hard thing to be a real housewife because it's not
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: just your life. You're signing up to share all about
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: your kids. And that's why Sidney probably doesn't talk to
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Tamara and things like that. Because it's like, it's not
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: like you just have a fight with your mom and
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: then three days later you're like, whatever, let's not talk
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: about it. It's now on the TV. Now it's now
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: on a repeat. It's now on a Bravo Saturday thing.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: And now you're 25 and you overslept. up your phone
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: and people are like, you're rude to your mother at
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: the baseball game. And you're like, Oh, fuck you. Like,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: this is ruining my day. Like, I just don't think
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: people think enough about that. But then here I am.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: I'm watching it. I'm talking about it. So am I
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: guilty of it? I don't know. I don't think so.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I think that, and like I said, I've made a
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: million mistakes as a mom, but there's no, and I
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: love money and I love to be on camera, but
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: there's not enough, Heather, that I would ever expose my kids. Now,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: it doesn't mean I'm better than anyone. It just means
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: I know how many things I will naturally do, innocently
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: do to screw up my daughters. I don't want to
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: add to it. And by the way, she's a lawyer.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: It's not like it was the only way to put
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: food in her mouth and her little husband's.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I think she and the little husband have a
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: very interesting relationship.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Um, they, are you talking about the height challenge? Everything
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: about it. Like they, when you talk about it, they're like, yeah, we, uh,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: he asked me to marry him on Google chat or something. Uh,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden they get married. Then they
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: have three, they go through in vitro. They have three kids.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Apparently his parents helped finance their life, which is fine. Um,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, is it easier to be on reality TV
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: than be a lawyer? Fuck yes. Is it more fun? Yes.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Is it better to go to the gym seven days
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: a week than go to court? Yes, it is. I'd
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: rather go to court. Than the gym? I'd rather do
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: anything than go to the gym.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Well, her body looks great. She is smart. Like I said,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think she's a bad person. I don't either.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I just think it's a bad parenting thing. I think
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: it's a risky thing, which now, just like I said,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: the toothpaste is out of the tube. So now she
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: might might as well shed light on this condition that
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I guess other kids have and hope that it all
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: works out. But it's just.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: You know, my bigger issue and I have an issue
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: with her exposing this kid's problems is, like I said,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: her talking about weight, her body and all of it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: When she has a daughter and a son that actually
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: has an eating disorder. And that's the hill I'll die on.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Well, then someone else could argue, well, isn't it better
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: that she is eating healthy and is fit?
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: She's like, that's not what it's about. She doesn't make it,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I wanted to be healthier. She's very clear, I want
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: to be thin like everybody. Well, and that can also
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: really change. That can be very interesting.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: If someone did struggle with their weight, wanting to be
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: a size, a couple sizes smaller than they always were.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: And all their friends were a few sizes smaller than
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: they were. They're living in Southern California, they're on TV,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: and they have to do bits about turkey sandwiches. And
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: now they are... Now, I mean, if she goes and
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: does the fitness, the tan, where they paint them the
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: color of wood floors and they have to do the
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: fitness competition. Oh, I don't know what this is. Remember
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Tamara did it? Oh, yes.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: If she does that next season... Then you're out. Maybe. Maybe.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: I'll probably never be out. Right.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: True.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Which is fine. They're doing the right thing. And if
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I keep watching and talking... But that's probably going to
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: be the next step. And... And that's fine. Like, if
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: that's what brings you joy, I'm imagining it would be
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: if all of a sudden, I don't know, I looked completely,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: I walked in. I mean, it must be almost like,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: you know, you're stepping into a whole different thing that
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: you just never realized. experience ever I don't know if
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: she was that size at 15 and then through childbirth
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: whatever and now she's back or she really never was
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: she says I was never this fit never in my
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: whole life at 50 I'm the most fit and everything
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: which is great it's all great that being said it
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: can really change of course how different like in a
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: few years a few years ago she was a stay-at-home
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: mom You know, with the tiny Persian mother-in-law, you know,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: flipping the bell, allegedly, for everything. And she got to
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: be with her kids. And then now she's been on
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: the show for like seven years.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: And.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is a big difference to adjust to.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: I don't want to take any of that away because
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: it would be like if tomorrow I woke up and
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: I was 5'10, blonde, I would lean into it. My
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: only thing is as a mom, and by the way,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: just so everybody knows, I was so cognizant of never
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: talking about my body, of turning over, and I'm old,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: we had magazines, People magazine, when there'd be something about
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: weight loss or celebrity, and my child still developed it.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: But I just think that children, especially this kid, is
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: watching everything his parents do.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: And it's on TV.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: And so how are you going to promote eating when
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: mom goes and gets a bowl of chicken?
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: We got serious there. I like that for us.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Tom Sandoval. Okay. Well, first we got
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: to say Summer House is official. Amanda and Wes are
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: not coming back. There was a photo that she posted.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: that the internet is wondering if she's pregnant. I have
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: seen the photo. She's kind of looking out. She's wearing
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: this dress, which, by the way, is a brand that
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Tom Sandoval's girlfriend was a model for. It's kind of
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: like a long, like, green, kind of pretty, like, whatever, dress. Like, casual,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: but cute. And she's looking out, and from the side,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: it looks like, if you told me she had the
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: beginnings of a bump... It looked a little bit like that,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: but it also could be just the angle in the dress.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: So I know that I might not leave my house
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: if she's pregnant for so many reasons because the world
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: is already a dangerous place. But if West Nile virus
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: got Mandy pregnant and they're not even a relationship and Heather.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: No, they are still a relationship, aren't they?
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: As of a few weeks ago, the rumors were he
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: cheated on her in all of this, during all this.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: But wasn't this photo taken at his farm? Yes, it
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: was this weekend. This weekend. At his family's farm.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: And that's always the downfall of West's conquests, is he
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: takes them back to the farm and he dumps them.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Oh. But I will say... She has a cute figure.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: A great body.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: It does look like maybe, but I think it could
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: just be the wind blowing.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Well, it's what I have said, which people would get
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: mad at. I said the only thing that can save
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: their reality TV careers is if she gets pregnant. You'd
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: watch that. No, I just think that's what would forgive people.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: That could get them back in the fold of the
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: friend group. Right now, the show is filming without them.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: because Sierra probably wasn't going to film with them. But
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that she's still in the city. So
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that when the city starts filming again
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: in the fall and she's six months pregnant, that that
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be fucking juicy. And then he comes on and
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: if they're together or not, Lindsay will forgive her and
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: be a friend to her because she's pregnant. I'm telling
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: you people that will be the only, I've been saying it,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: that would be the only way to make people, like
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: her again is if she was to have a child
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: and that. And even if she doesn't stay with him,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: then she can join the group of hating him, which
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of women love when you hate your ex.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: It's why they call you Professor McDonald. I mean, you
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: really are a doctor of reality TV. I will agree
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: in the cities, her only chance if she's knocked up,
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: she's not coming back to Summer House. I would watch
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: the show of her pregnant and West... doing a podcast
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: with his, you know, soccer friend.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: What does she play? Basketball. The girl, the blonde cutie. Yeah,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: that's not going to pay for the diapers.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: And I guess a bigger question that's been haunting me
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: is they were nominated for an Emmy, Summer House.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Do Wes T.D. and Amanda Petuclia go to the Emmy ceremony, Heather?
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Do they show up on that red carpet?
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good one. Right. Well, why the fuck not?
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: It's your last shebang.
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: They're invited. I would.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: You know, Ciara's going to look gorgeous. Gorgeous. Speaking of which,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: how do we feel? Taylor Frankie Paul had a big weekend. Ugh.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: with the baby daddy of ever who's two first it
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: was that they had in an immediate like zoom mediation
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: which we all get to see yeah this is what
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: i don't get okay because i don't know if it's
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: because the state they're in or what the hell but
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: normally custody battles involving children are private but not when
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: it comes to Little Ever. The world now knows that
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Little Ever, too, was on an e-bike with his dad
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: with a helmet in which the dumb attorney of Dakota
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: tries to say, well, he has a helmet. The older
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: male judge was like, no, no. This kid isn't 12,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: he's two. This should never be allowed. Done, never gonna
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: happen again. Okay, fine. Then, meanwhile, his roommate, Crew, some
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: weirdo who also hates women, He then somehow releases this
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: video that Dakota took of Taylor, who they're in a
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: heated argument. She's frustrated. It appears that she's confused why
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: he's filming her. She's, you know, and he's like, look,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: look how she's clutching her fist. She wants to hit him,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: but she won't. Whatever their situation is, why does the
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: roommate release this? It's weird. The roommate's ex-girlfriend comes out,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: says what a fucking nightmare he is and was, and
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: why they're just these men just obsessed or jealous or
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: whatever with her and the other women that are making
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: so much money on TV and social media. And then
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: she defends herself and says- Listen, this is her job.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: This is her livelihood. She's not going to go to
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: nursing school and be a nurse for 12 hours a day.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: This is it. So I get it. And all these
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: awful things are already being said about me. You already
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: have seen the video of me throwing the chair. So
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: now I need to... do whatever I can to defend myself.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: The other cast members of the show are not filming
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: with her. So she's like pissed about that. But then
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: they said, no, she is going to film. Where are
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: we in all this Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: So on the ground sources tell me that she is
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: filming with them. There was a big change in attitude
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: from the rest of MomTalk when Taylor Frankie Paul changed
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: her Instagram bio to, to founder, president, god of.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: She is. Of MomTalk. She is. Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: And they are filming two things. They're doing this new
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Orange County MomTalk, but they're also doing Secret Lives. And
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: so the rest of them... It's it's crazy what's going on.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: They're filming these TikToks of we are surviving because the
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: big thing is, will MomTalk survive? She then goes back
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: to them, but I'm thriving and puts little captions of TikToks.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: brands that have reached out to her opportunities, like Dancing
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: with the Stars and Can You Write a Book? Now,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: one of them was kind of dated, but they're going back.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: What do you mean kind of dated?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that one was 2024.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: One of the brands?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: What was it? Yeah, it might have been Dancing with
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: the Stars, like one of those. So I'm like, do
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: a better job of editing. Yeah.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: So they're going back at each other. They did film together.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: They are filming together, but the drama off and on
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: is heated. Why this creepy roommate is doing this, I really,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: I can't get my head around it.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: 15 minutes of fame? I don't know. It's just very disturbing.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, here's the thing. We're going
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: to see more of play-by-play divorces and child custody battles
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: with the millennial 30-year-old moms that have put everything on
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: these trad wives that have been married since 19, who
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: they're going to end up, half of them are going
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: to get divorced, and 80% of them are going to
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: share every nanny cam video, every time they got in
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: a fight. And we are going to have, not we,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: we don't have to, but if you're following this person,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: they're going to make you aware of it. Because they're
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: going to say, well, I need to tell you why
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: I'm no longer with the cute husband. And the cute
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: husband's going to say, I need to tell you why
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: she turned into a thirst bucket and we got divorced.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: And the kids that we already exploited for views and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: likes and everything else are going to be exploited again
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: because now we're going to know that what we saw
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: for the last five years wasn't real. Wow.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: You know, It would be so tempting if you and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: a million times, God forbid, Pete, separate, divorce, and he
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: starts saying something about you, and you.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Had some footage. It would be hard. No, I don't
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: blame them. But it's awful. But, I mean, my kids
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: are grown, too. Right, it's awful, though. Yeah. But I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: wouldn't want to do that.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Some things can remain private. You know, not everything has
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: to be out there. But when you've been living your
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: life online since you were 15. It's all you know.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: You're 30. It's all you know, which is why they
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: can find these younger moms to go do reality TV
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: and why they say, why don't they find anyone more
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: interesting for real housewives that are rich and 45? Because
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: the rich 45 year old woman has been living a
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: rich private life. 45 year old life. She has not
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: put every single thing on social media for the last
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: 10 years and can't wait to become famous. So you
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: either have to stick with the oldies or start a
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: whole new thing with young thirst buckets. So these young
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: girls grew up on social media. And I don't think
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: it's a big deal for them to be on TV.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: It's not. And they just see it as like, oh,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: even though you're not paying me that much, it's just
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: a way for me to get bigger deals and I'm
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: doing it to expand me, which is the brand of
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: selling diaper rash because I have a two-year-old. It's a
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: big price to pay.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: And with that in mind, this past weekend, Taylor Franke
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: posted a video of a seemingly stalking black car driving
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: up and down her street, parking in front. She caught
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: it on her closed caption TV. She hired security, but
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: it's a big price to pay.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Again, she's a.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Mother, so it doesn't really lean into the best parenting,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: but to your point, it's all they've known.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, someone would say, all she talks about is
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: how she has mental health issues and stuff. So did Amanda.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: So then they said, well, Amanda, you're not coming back
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: on the show on Summer House. And then her mental
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: health thing is, um, you know, yeah, she's got mental
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: health issues too. So I don't know. Amanda's boring, but right. Well,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: here's the thing, you know, it's, it doesn't, it's not
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: the production team's job to say yes or no, whatever. Um,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: you know, she it's, she's, yes, she threw the bar
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: stool and if it hit the kid or not, she, um,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: isn't doing time for child abuse. She's not. So it's like,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: if they're gonna, if, if, uh, Shannon Bedore, who drove
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: into someone's curb and got a DUI. With Archie in
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: the car. With Archie in the car, rest in peace.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: And also did what she had to do to clear
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: her name legally, but, you know, probably, probably won't drink
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: as much on camera and hasn't, but isn't denouncing alcohol either. Um,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: You know, they kept her. So it's like, I don't know.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, what it is, it's just an interesting thing. Oh,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Melania shared some nasty text messages with her sister after
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: her assault arrest. So it turns out Melania was fighting
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: with the sister, Adriana, right? was it Adriana who, um,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: or Gabrielle, I can't remember which one, but she was
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: throwing candles or something at her. One of the girls
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: called the police. She was arrested. And then just this
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: past weekend, Melania was sharing the text exchanges between them
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: on her Snapchat. And I'm like, now I think again,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: what's a girl to do when your mother is Teresa
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: and your whole life you've been on TV since you
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: were two. You go up for emancipation. I mean, but
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I think that they she's choosing to
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: share all this for the same reasons. It's the only
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: thing she knows. And maybe it will help give them
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: a sister spinoff or something. If they hate each other
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: and fight enough, then that might get them another show.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: It's there's not a family I like less on reality TV.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: than the Giudici Giudiciases, and I.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Don't root for them. There, I said it. I never
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: liked Teresa. I think she's a liar. I think she's mean.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: And so I've heard that when this incident happened in May,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: it was Louie.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Louie. And Teresa. fighting about money that they owe. And
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: it's a staggering number.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: And then the kid got involved and was very violent
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: and drunk, did attack someone. The police show up and
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: they all decide, we don't want to press charges. But
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: ever since OJ Simpson allegedly killed his ex-wife, When the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: police show up, if I say to them, no, no,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: I'm fine, I don't want Heather arrested.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: But I have a gash on my face, they automatically
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: take the person. Right.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: So I heard that happen, and there is a closed
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: document with initials of who that victim was that will
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: be released soon. All to say that they're trashy people.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Period. We don't know what the legal thing is. No. Allegedly.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: But there you go with that. Okay. This was interesting.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: I meant to say this on Christian Grace Snow, who
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: has the podcast with Vicki. Said that they used his
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: voice from the show, from his podcast. They used a
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: soundbite from his podcast on the premiere episode of Real
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Housewives of OC, except they changed his voice and also
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: didn't say the name of the podcast or give him credit.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: And I would like to know what was the why.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because I've had them use my voice for things
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: and they've reached out and said, do you mind if
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: we use your voice for this? And I go, okay.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: And I sign whatever. But they made it sound, he
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: is a gay man and it sounded like a black woman.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: If you were to cast a black woman, it sounded
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: like a black woman.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: And so I just kind of was like, I don't
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: know if it's because of the Talk of shame and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: all that stuff that trying to not parlay podcasting into it.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: But right off the bat, they all have a podcast.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: They all talk about each other on their own shows,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: on each other's shows. So that is going to be
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: part of the storylines and you can't deny it. But
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: maybe there's something in that they don't really want to
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: give any one particular podcast. that cover this stuff any
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: light I don't know but I thought that was weird
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: and I'm glad you pointed it out it's so weird
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: and really annoying Because you work really hard talking about
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: these shows forever. And it's kind of a, yeah, it's
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: a huge ego boost to be featured on the actual show. So, like, why,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: you know, if you could have another voice if they
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: did that, what voice would you want? Oh, to change
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: my voice? Yeah. Like I would want an English one.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I would just want a straight man because they seem
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: to be always getting the jobs. Done. Well, I just
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: thoroughly have enjoyed talking to you about everything. I don't
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: know if there's anything we forgot to talk about. But
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: you have a great podcast. Thank you, Heather. I was
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: a guest on your show. Thank you, Heather. And tell
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: everybody where they can find it, what days it drops,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: all of it.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Well, I got great advice from Heather's beautiful, smart, intelligent,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: handsome son who said... You put your fan or fanatic podcast,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: which is my podcast, on YouTube. So about a month ago,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: I put it on YouTube, but it's on all the platforms. Awesome.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: And of course, on Instagram and TikTok. Lovely. And where
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: can they follow you on Instagram? At Lori Alterman.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Great. Talking all things reality TV. The important stuff. Absolutely.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: You have great interviews coming up and it's really fun
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: and you have such fun takes. And thank you so
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: much for coming on Juicy Scoop. Happy places, Juicy Scoop.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: And of course, go to heathermcdonald.net for my Patreon every Friday.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: I've almost had it for coming on 10 years now.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: And every episode is archived commercial free of the Patreon.
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