Latest / Making The Merge - Survivor Podcast / One More Star Update
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Every thing listening to me and Masuby new favorite.
- 0:16Speaker 2: And messuaby new favor, shout out to Mary and shout
- 0:28Speaker 2: out to the Sanctuary where good Pods happened.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Phenomenal singer.
- 0:31Speaker 4: Mary's incredible and that that's my favorite Mary song. So
- 0:34Speaker 4: that's why I went rogue and played it last week.
- 0:37Speaker 4: It was kind of risky to just play her song
- 0:40Speaker 4: without asking because I could see a scenario in which
- 0:44Speaker 4: she does not appreciate that very much. But she gave
- 0:47Speaker 4: us the blessing. And now that's the official theme song
- 0:50Speaker 4: of the Sanctuary.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Oh man, you know, most seasons we get at least
- 0:55Speaker 3: one Survivor castaway who makes music? Should we try to
- 1:00Speaker 3: every season make it the theme song of the Sanctuary?
- 1:04Speaker 3: One of the current contestants.
- 1:06Speaker 4: Music, Well, I mean, let's see if someone can top
- 1:09Speaker 4: this Mary song first, because I'd say maybe we just
- 1:13Speaker 4: stick with Mary because I think we peaked.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Man, this is the the Sanctuary where good Pods happen. Yeah,
- 1:21Speaker 3: a big week, A big week for online discourse when
- 1:24Speaker 3: it comes to Survivor. Maybe it has something to do
- 1:27Speaker 3: with the crazy backlash to the episode.
- 1:32Speaker 4: See that's why I'm actually I'm doing something on this
- 1:35Speaker 4: show where I think it's important. We're gonna give Mitch
- 1:38Speaker 4: a little break this week, and if either you or
- 1:41Speaker 4: I makes a mean comment about Mitch, I will hit
- 1:45Speaker 4: you with a laser beam.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Can I hear the laser beam?
- 1:48Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure, We'll say something mean about Mitch and then
- 1:51Speaker 4: I'll hit you with it.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Mitch, Mitch was super dumb this week.
- 1:59Speaker 4: That was so that's ridiculous. I'm gonna have to turn
- 2:02Speaker 4: that down and post, Hey, but that's that. That's gonna
- 2:06Speaker 4: make you not want to do it. Yeah, you get
- 2:09Speaker 4: exact with the laser.
- 2:11Speaker 3: And let's start with this. Let's start with this because
- 2:14Speaker 3: hot off the presses, everyone's.
- 2:16Speaker 4: Everyone's mad at Mitch. So I do feel for Mitch. Yeah,
- 2:20Speaker 4: and because we get really intense when because this is
- 2:24Speaker 4: the problem with our draft is that we get so
- 2:27Speaker 4: invested in these players and our pursuit of winning this
- 2:30Speaker 4: stupid Jody Newell trophy that means the world to us,
- 2:33Speaker 4: that we will do things like rant for three minutes uninterrupted,
- 2:37Speaker 4: you know, screaming like you did towards Mitch, or like Jonathan,
- 2:41Speaker 4: he realized that these songs curse people, so he was like,
- 2:44Speaker 4: I'm gonna do an intentional curse instead of an accidental curse.
- 2:48Speaker 4: And I feel like the draft it kind of drives
- 2:51Speaker 4: us insane a little bit towards the end of the show,
- 2:53Speaker 4: from like final six to the end.
- 2:55Speaker 3: Oh, I agree, dude. Yeah, And I like on the Sanctuary,
- 2:59Speaker 3: I like to peel bad because you know, Pete and
- 3:03Speaker 3: I were heavily influenced by the pro wrestling world, so
- 3:08Speaker 3: you know, oftentimes for the main show, we have a
- 3:10Speaker 3: bit of a persona that we play for entertainment value.
- 3:14Speaker 3: I was not actually that upset at Mitch to scream
- 3:17Speaker 3: at him like that for three minutes, but we but
- 3:20Speaker 3: we knew that it would be funny.
- 3:23Speaker 4: But also, I mean, when you're watching the episode, deep down,
- 3:26Speaker 4: I think you do kind of feel those things.
- 3:29Speaker 3: Yeah, all of those emotions were very real, like they
- 3:32Speaker 3: were there, But I would never in a million actually
- 3:35Speaker 3: scream out somewhat like that.
- 3:36Speaker 4: It is just funny to be like, man, Chase really
- 3:39Speaker 4: went off the rails and just lost his mind for
- 3:41Speaker 4: three uninterrupted minutes.
- 3:43Speaker 3: So yeah, how do I mean, how do you think
- 3:44Speaker 3: Mitch is feeling after all this backlash this week?
- 3:47Speaker 4: I think he's like already overcome so much in his
- 3:50Speaker 4: life that he could. He probably has the right mindset
- 3:53Speaker 4: to deal with it, although he's probably never gotten death
- 3:56Speaker 4: threats from TikTok before. Yeah, so that part of it
- 4:00Speaker 4: really does suck. But when I think about it now,
- 4:04Speaker 4: it's like I think that the Underdog Alliance should have
- 4:08Speaker 4: done a better job in approaching Mitch and they should
- 4:10Speaker 4: have had Camilla or Kyle do it.
- 4:13Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And we'll get into a little bit more
- 4:16Speaker 3: about that whole situation when we talk about Star's exit
- 4:19Speaker 3: interview she did with Entertainment Weekly Dalton Ross shout out.
- 4:23Speaker 3: But yeah, maybe Stars shouldn't have been the leader of that.
- 4:26Speaker 4: Stars like the whole season been seen as the wild
- 4:28Speaker 4: guard and then, which is weird. Yeah, I don't think
- 4:32Speaker 4: she really deserved much of the hate, and she talked
- 4:35Speaker 4: about that in her exit press too, that she appreciated
- 4:37Speaker 4: people supporting her through all that.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, since we've brought it up twice, I mean,
- 4:42Speaker 3: should we just jump right into.
- 4:43Speaker 4: That it's our final Star update if you think about it. Yeah,
- 4:47Speaker 4: unless she shows up at for fifty Yeah, fingers crossed,
- 4:51Speaker 4: you never know. Yeah, I'll just jump right in with
- 4:53Speaker 4: the question that they asked her that directly relates to
- 4:58Speaker 4: what you just said. The question was, Here's something I
- 5:00Speaker 4: do not understand at all. Everyone kept saying how untrustworthy
- 5:03Speaker 4: you were. What was that based on? Because we didn't
- 5:05Speaker 4: see you do lots of lying and deceiving and backstabbing.
- 5:08Speaker 4: So I'm a bit perplexed.
- 5:10Speaker 3: And you know, he doesn't bring up this, but it's
- 5:12Speaker 3: something that a lot of the online discourse has been about.
- 5:14Speaker 3: It is like how Joe called Star his kryptonite.
- 5:18Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot to bring that up in the episode
- 5:21Speaker 4: our main pod. Yeah, but I did think that was
- 5:24Speaker 4: really weird.
- 5:24Speaker 3: Very interesting. Well, so what she says is, I think
- 5:28Speaker 3: they were projecting everyone that was saying honest and loyal
- 5:32Speaker 3: was lying. You were watching it happen in real time.
- 5:35Speaker 3: The only person that anyone was ever honest and loyal
- 5:38Speaker 3: to was their number one. And even then, we know
- 5:41Speaker 3: in a game of survivor, you're either going to flip
- 5:43Speaker 3: on that number one we saw it before in the past,
- 5:46Speaker 3: or you're gonna make it all the way and you're
- 5:48Speaker 3: going to stay locked in and everyone that's in your
- 5:50Speaker 3: way you don't care. So I felt like, when they're
- 5:53Speaker 3: calling me chaotic, I'm like, literally, you're watching me. I'm
- 5:56Speaker 3: sitting I'm watching everyone scramble and wrestle and try to
- 5:59Speaker 3: figure out what's happening, and I'm like, Bro, why are
- 6:02Speaker 3: y'all being so paranoid? You either got it or you don't.
- 6:05Speaker 3: I always have it, some people don't. Yeah, that's an
- 6:10Speaker 3: awesome quote.
- 6:12Speaker 4: I think that she's right. Like, the only person that
- 6:17Speaker 4: has played that kind of a game is Eva. Yeah,
- 6:19Speaker 4: where I feel like Eva has meant everything she said
- 6:22Speaker 4: and been straightforward with pretty much everybody, even even when
- 6:26Speaker 4: she probably shouldn't have been.
- 6:27Speaker 3: Yeah, like when.
- 6:28Speaker 4: She's like, hey, Mary, this isn't gonna work out, like
- 6:31Speaker 4: at least, I mean, I'll try to make it work
- 6:32Speaker 4: for a little bit longer, but when it's your time,
- 6:34Speaker 4: it's your time, and I'm not gonna do anything about it.
- 6:36Speaker 3: Yeah. It's weird how the kind of strong alliance, which
- 6:40Speaker 3: there's not a good name for that alliance.
- 6:42Speaker 4: Everybody's just strong Big Bro Club. I think Jonathan came
- 6:46Speaker 4: up with the the good name.
- 6:47Speaker 3: Big Bro Club.
- 6:48Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 6:48Speaker 3: So the thing about the Big Bro Club is they've
- 6:50Speaker 3: run away with the game to a certain level where
- 6:53Speaker 3: they're not they're not playing with the other players. They're
- 6:56Speaker 3: playing with themselves to the point where it's like they
- 7:00Speaker 3: made up that Star is this crazy chaotic kryptonite quote unquote.
- 7:05Speaker 4: Star wasn't doing anything kryptonite. It's just like weirdest way
- 7:08Speaker 4: to describe it. It's like, what do you why explain.
- 7:10Speaker 3: That it wasn't like whenever Star plays immunity Challenge, she wins,
- 7:15Speaker 3: she's my kryptonite. No, dude, you've won everything. I don't.
- 7:19Speaker 4: Star's been on the bottom, gave over her idol to Eva.
- 7:22Speaker 4: It's like, what, how has Star been in a position
- 7:24Speaker 4: to be your kryptonite? Or does he mean he's just like,
- 7:26Speaker 4: I'm annoyed by you. I would like for you to
- 7:29Speaker 4: go home.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you and you even bring up the
- 7:32Speaker 3: thing that she gave Eva, the immunity idol, that gets
- 7:36Speaker 3: asked in the exit interview. He says, anyone that doesn't win,
- 7:39Speaker 3: you're going to look back at certain points in the
- 7:40Speaker 3: game and be like, maybe I should have zigged when
- 7:42Speaker 3: I zagged here, do you regret letting Eva keep the
- 7:45Speaker 3: immunity idol on the big ware advantage you found? And
- 7:48Speaker 3: Star says no, which I think is the correct answer,
- 7:51Speaker 3: but she goes my only regret is not voting the
- 7:54Speaker 3: way we should have voted at the split tribal. So
- 7:59Speaker 3: basically she says a bunch stuff, but it really boils
- 8:01Speaker 3: down to she regrets that she did not save Say.
- 8:04Speaker 3: That was what she felt was the biggest thing. She
- 8:06Speaker 3: was like, after watching, I'm like, maybe the game would
- 8:10Speaker 3: have changed for Chrissy, the game would have changed for Say,
- 8:13Speaker 3: and maybe in that moment we could have all worked
- 8:15Speaker 3: together to take care of the bigger fish. So that's
- 8:17Speaker 3: my only regret, not saving Say. And I think that's
- 8:20Speaker 3: I think that's true. I mean giving Eva the immunity
- 8:25Speaker 3: idol ball or move it kept her safe because Star
- 8:29Speaker 3: was like the number one threat for some reason. The
- 8:32Speaker 3: second she gives Eva that they just leave her alone
- 8:35Speaker 3: for weeks on INN, Well, I think.
- 8:36Speaker 4: It should have been a great move because the purpose
- 8:39Speaker 4: of it was to develop a relationship with Eva. Under
- 8:43Speaker 4: any other circumstances, I feel like giving over an idol
- 8:46Speaker 4: to somebody that it would do that they would be like, oh, yeah,
- 8:50Speaker 4: we're locked in together. No, she didn't care at all.
- 8:52Speaker 3: She was like thanks for this idol.
- 8:54Speaker 4: Yeah. There was never any confessional of her being like
- 8:57Speaker 4: it's hard for me to vote Star when when Star
- 9:00Speaker 4: did this for me and gave me power in the game, and.
- 9:02Speaker 3: It's loyal to me.
- 9:03Speaker 4: So so I don't know. I guess Eva just really
- 9:08Speaker 4: likes the guys so much.
- 9:10Speaker 3: It's it's difficult to like Eva sometimes because of that.
- 9:14Speaker 3: Like loyalty, I think is normally seen as a very
- 9:17Speaker 3: good attribute, but it kind of comes across negatively in
- 9:22Speaker 3: this season, the fact that they're so loyal. The cool
- 9:25Speaker 3: thing about Starr and I think this is they purposely
- 9:28Speaker 3: left it out of the edit. But from reading her
- 9:30Speaker 3: exit interview and from seeing everything that's been kind of
- 9:33Speaker 3: going on this week after she's been eliminated, is it
- 9:35Speaker 3: seems like she was actually really trying to play the game.
- 9:39Speaker 3: She was trying to talk to people, she was trying
- 9:40Speaker 3: to get things going. She says in her exit press
- 9:43Speaker 3: that they didn't show it in the episode, but even
- 9:46Speaker 3: after Joe won immunity, she was still going to everyone
- 9:49Speaker 3: and being like, hey, maybe we can get Eva, maybe
- 9:52Speaker 3: we can get Shaheen, Like let's not let this fall
- 9:54Speaker 3: apart just because Joe got think she was actually playing
- 9:56Speaker 3: really hard and Joe and Eva like they're just stonewalling everyone.
- 10:02Speaker 4: But it is Mitch, really, I mean it all comes
- 10:05Speaker 4: back to Mitch in that moment. Yeah, because yeah, Mitch
- 10:08Speaker 4: flipped everything that was Star's one pale marriage. After the
- 10:12Speaker 4: immunity challenge, she goes to Mitch and that's when we
- 10:15Speaker 4: get the Mitch and the hammock you should play your
- 10:17Speaker 4: shot in the dark moment, and that's where it just
- 10:20Speaker 4: it's completely changed and from the from then on it's
- 10:23Speaker 4: Mary versus Star.
- 10:24Speaker 3: Yeah. It so weird, man. And she says in her
- 10:27Speaker 3: exit press after after he asked about like, you know,
- 10:30Speaker 3: they called you this, uh, untrustworthy person. Mitch was kind
- 10:34Speaker 3: of the main one that was like I don't trust Star.
- 10:38Speaker 3: And Dalton asks her, like, but you're not hearing them
- 10:42Speaker 3: say that stuff when you're out there, and she's like, no, no, no, no,
- 10:45Speaker 3: they were saying this to my face. Oh. She goes
- 10:49Speaker 3: Eva basically called me chaotic pretty much throughout the whole game,
- 10:53Speaker 3: and I'm like, girl, I'm not even talking to you
- 10:55Speaker 3: or checking for you. I'm so confused. A lot of
- 10:58Speaker 3: times I was told that they just don't know if
- 11:00Speaker 3: they can trust you, and I'm like, I'm literally with
- 11:02Speaker 3: y'all the whole time. I'm not even doing anything crazy.
- 11:07Speaker 3: Even then too, sometimes you would see me walk and
- 11:09Speaker 3: try to get some information and talk to people and
- 11:12Speaker 3: kind of get on the same level of things. But
- 11:14Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I was always taking
- 11:15Speaker 3: that information back to the people who I thought I
- 11:18Speaker 3: was rocking with. So once again, to call me chaotic,
- 11:21Speaker 3: it's just projecting for some reason. Wow, they just didn't
- 11:26Speaker 3: it feels and I'm not the kind of person to
- 11:29Speaker 3: be like, this is making me mad. Yeah, I'm not
- 11:32Speaker 3: the kind of person to be like, Hey, you know,
- 11:34Speaker 3: there are people out there on Survivor. You gotta treat them,
- 11:36Speaker 3: you gotta treat them good. But it's like, it really
- 11:39Speaker 3: just feels like they were just extremely rude to her
- 11:42Speaker 3: for no reason.
- 11:43Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel like, go back to forty seven
- 11:46Speaker 4: and a rachel or, a Caroline or an Andy would
- 11:50Speaker 4: have star right by their side being like, I'm gonna
- 11:53Speaker 4: take this person to the end because they don't have
- 11:55Speaker 4: quite the resume, and these people aren't thinking like that
- 11:59Speaker 4: in forty and that's what we keep talking about. It's
- 12:01Speaker 4: like they went back to two thousand and five with
- 12:04Speaker 4: their strategy. It feels different. It just it feels different
- 12:09Speaker 4: than the rie before because the Rie before they were
- 12:12Speaker 4: all like they wanted to plot against each other. Ultimately,
- 12:15Speaker 4: they all wanted to get there, but they were like
- 12:17Speaker 4: thinking of this is how I'm gonna backstab you once
- 12:19Speaker 4: we get there.
- 12:21Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a really cool comparison. Yeah, and I'm
- 12:26Speaker 3: a lot of people dislike this season and I don't
- 12:28Speaker 3: understand that at all, because even though the honesty and
- 12:32Speaker 3: loyalty strong big guy team is annoying, I think it
- 12:39Speaker 3: makes for good TV because they're the villains, right. It's
- 12:42Speaker 3: like it's like John Cena in two thousand and eight.
- 12:46Speaker 3: Everyone's booing him even though he's a good guy and
- 12:49Speaker 3: he's like, I'm a hustle, I'm loyalty and I'm respect
- 12:52Speaker 3: and everybody's like, you suck dude, you suck it. This
- 12:56Speaker 3: is the same thing. We have these guys and they're
- 12:59Speaker 3: talking talking about, you know, loyalty and playing an honest game.
- 13:03Speaker 3: But really they're the villains of the season and that's
- 13:05Speaker 3: exciting to me. I think that's awesome.
- 13:07Speaker 4: So to put it in wrestling terms again, it's the
- 13:10Speaker 4: hero who. Yeah, they really believe they're the hero. They
- 13:14Speaker 4: just don't understand that they're being perceived as real assoles.
- 13:21Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent dude, and in the most heartbreaking
- 13:25Speaker 3: part of the exit press because we all became big
- 13:30Speaker 3: fans of Star as the season kept right growing, and
- 13:34Speaker 3: I think that was in spite of the edit, Like
- 13:36Speaker 3: we would get to see just moments of Star throughout
- 13:39Speaker 3: the episodes and we would be like, Star is awesome. Dude.
- 13:44Speaker 3: He asks, what was it like when you got to
- 13:46Speaker 3: Ponderosa with Cedric Christi and David What was the energy
- 13:50Speaker 3: like over there, Star goes It was love, And honestly,
- 13:54Speaker 3: I can say that my time on the island prior
- 13:55Speaker 3: to that voting, I was already feeling defeated. You're working
- 13:58Speaker 3: so hard to find your way in this place. You're
- 14:00Speaker 3: working so hard to at least make these connections with people.
- 14:03Speaker 3: You go to make conversations and no one's responding. Everyone's
- 14:07Speaker 3: in a big group talking and you say something and
- 14:10Speaker 3: no one laughs, no one talks, so you feel the
- 14:13Speaker 3: vibes you are not a part of the group. So
- 14:16Speaker 3: getting away and finally being with people who really care
- 14:19Speaker 3: for me and welcome me with open arms. And then
- 14:22Speaker 3: this is where we get brackets and it says Star
- 14:23Speaker 3: gets emotional and sounds like she's holding back tears and
- 14:27Speaker 3: she says the first time I landed on Ponderosa, Cedric,
- 14:30Speaker 3: Christy and David are all sitting on the stairs waiting
- 14:33Speaker 3: for me, and the moment when you think you're gonna
- 14:35Speaker 3: cry and you feel so defeated, they uplifted me. They
- 14:39Speaker 3: hugged me, and all my pain kind of went away
- 14:41Speaker 3: for a little bit, and I was like, Wow, this
- 14:43Speaker 3: is what I've been wanting. Community people, true allies. Not
- 14:47Speaker 3: you're picking on me because I'm not a part of
- 14:49Speaker 3: the group. That's childish. We're here to play a game.
- 14:53Speaker 3: The group cannot win a million, only one person can
- 14:56Speaker 3: win a million. And to know that there are people
- 14:58Speaker 3: who can put that game to the side and say, hey, hey,
- 15:00Speaker 3: you're a person, come here. Man. I know it sucks,
- 15:03Speaker 3: but it'll be okay. That was the best part about
- 15:05Speaker 3: Ponderosa that infuriated man, because it was to the point
- 15:10Speaker 3: where this you know, honest and loyal team. They're straight
- 15:14Speaker 3: up just like even in other seasons when there's villains,
- 15:18Speaker 3: the villains are still oftentimes having fun with the other
- 15:22Speaker 3: people on the island.
- 15:24Speaker 4: And this means that Camilla and Mary were the only
- 15:29Speaker 4: people who would talk to Star then on the island, right,
- 15:32Speaker 4: I can tell. Mary and Star were like, well, I
- 15:34Speaker 4: have to vote for you now. They both and they
- 15:36Speaker 4: told each other that I think.
- 15:38Speaker 3: Yeah, they said in the exit press, she was like, hey,
- 15:40Speaker 3: me and Mary, there was no hard feelings that we
- 15:42Speaker 3: knew we had to put each other's names down. So
- 15:44Speaker 3: it seems like there was like kind of a thing.
- 15:46Speaker 3: It's heartbreaking that she just was trying to talk to
- 15:50Speaker 3: people and they just wouldn't.
- 15:51Speaker 4: Answer, Hey, do better muscle guys, just to have a conversation,
- 15:55Speaker 4: you know, make Starr feel like a person.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Here's the thing that like it breaks my heart is
- 16:04Speaker 3: like you could tell us she's not trying to like
- 16:07Speaker 3: tear them down and be like, oh they suck. Like
- 16:09Speaker 3: she's just being honest and being like I felt really bad.
- 16:12Speaker 4: And it's like then hal Say was being on Twitter
- 16:15Speaker 4: being like I told you the ratings were gonna drop
- 16:17Speaker 4: or whatever, like.
- 16:18Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is lashing out. Star's not lashing out.
- 16:23Speaker 3: She's just like, yeah, really really hurt my feelings, and
- 16:26Speaker 3: they're just like really, So there's no doubt in my
- 16:29Speaker 3: mind that the big guy, you know, Joe Eva, Kyle, Mitch,
- 16:35Speaker 3: that aholl alliance, they're the villains of the season there's
- 16:38Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that. I love a good survivor villain. Yeah,
- 16:41Speaker 3: but they are definitely the villains. They're not you know,
- 16:45Speaker 3: honor and integrity or whatever.
- 16:47Speaker 4: They're not except Eva, I think just but to Joe,
- 16:51Speaker 4: only being.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Brutally honest does not make you you know what I mean? Man,
- 16:58Speaker 3: I did not, and I want to be transparent. It's like,
- 17:05Speaker 3: you know, these are all characters on a show. Yeah,
- 17:08Speaker 3: in my opinion, when I'm yelling at Mitch for three
- 17:11Speaker 3: minutes on the main show, I had no ill will
- 17:12Speaker 3: towards Mitch. I thought it was very entertaining that we
- 17:15Speaker 3: all got to to make fun of Mitch this week
- 17:17Speaker 3: for essentially making the most boring move ever. What I
- 17:23Speaker 3: don't what I'm not a fan of is the way
- 17:26Speaker 3: that they were treating people apparently on that island.
- 17:29Speaker 4: Yeah, and I hope, like post game, that they've reconciled
- 17:33Speaker 4: some of that stuff.
- 17:34Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 17:35Speaker 4: I don't know if Star talked about that in the
- 17:36Speaker 4: ex Oppress, but I would hope that her and Eva
- 17:38Speaker 4: are cool now.
- 17:40Speaker 3: I hope so.
- 17:41Speaker 4: But we like Eva Eva. Obviously. I like Eva because
- 17:45Speaker 4: at this point, I'm like, I need her to win
- 17:47Speaker 4: the game.
- 17:47Speaker 3: If Camilla is gonna go home, But.
- 17:50Speaker 4: Yeah, Eva follows us, Eva's boyfriend follows us. Joe follows
- 17:54Speaker 4: us too, like they're playing a great game. That's the
- 17:58Speaker 4: other thing is like you might like it, but this
- 18:00Speaker 4: is what peak performance looks like.
- 18:03Speaker 3: No, And that's that's the thing that's infuriating when the
- 18:05Speaker 3: people online are like, this season sucked because it's so boring.
- 18:08Speaker 3: This is the way it's like, No, this is awesome,
- 18:11Speaker 3: Like it's so cool to see this experiment player. And
- 18:14Speaker 3: there's been other seasons where this exact thing.
- 18:18Speaker 4: Happened, but it feels like it has it happened like
- 18:19Speaker 4: this in a while, And.
- 18:21Speaker 3: I didn't know what could happen like this in the
- 18:22Speaker 3: New Era. And we were talking about this the other day.
- 18:24Speaker 3: You were like, I thought the idea of a strong
- 18:27Speaker 3: alliance that just took over the whole game the entire time.
- 18:31Speaker 4: Yeah, guy with muscles, it doesn't it's not a thing anymore.
- 18:35Speaker 4: But muscles go at the merge. I mean, Jake, it
- 18:38Speaker 4: wasn't shredded, Yeah, Jam, Jam, he wasn't shredded, shredded. It
- 18:43Speaker 4: was Sam. Okay, Sam's athletic. He was like, but but
- 18:46Speaker 4: they put him on the bottom because of his athleticism,
- 18:50Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure. Yeah, and that's kind of like the
- 18:51Speaker 4: position Kyle was in in forty seven too. Yeah, it's like, hey,
- 18:56Speaker 4: you two were strong. You guys are at the bottom
- 18:59Speaker 4: of the totem pole.
- 19:01Speaker 3: Yeah, and David was extremely entertaining to see someone try
- 19:06Speaker 3: to pull off the mob boss move and fail drastically
- 19:11Speaker 3: awesome to watch, hilarious to watch.
- 19:13Speaker 4: That was like, it's an example of how tight of
- 19:15Speaker 4: a grip that Joe and Eva have on the game
- 19:17Speaker 4: is that they were like, all right, we'll cut bait
- 19:19Speaker 4: with David, one of the strong guys, and we'll still
- 19:23Speaker 4: get our way the next week.
- 19:25Speaker 3: Insane when they didn't have the numbers.
- 19:27Speaker 4: Well they they had a tie.
- 19:31Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and we'll get into any other season, any
- 19:36Speaker 3: other season, and they would not have.
- 19:38Speaker 4: Been like Andy and Genevieve would have been going to Rocks,
- 19:41Speaker 4: you know, all those people, and they would have pulled something.
- 19:44Speaker 4: But let's end Star exit press on a lighter note.
- 19:48Speaker 4: This is gonna be from her interview with Rob, so
- 19:52Speaker 4: this is truly our final Star update until final Travel Council.
- 19:58Speaker 6: Are you feeling the love the people watching the show so.
- 20:02Speaker 7: Much love I'm feeling all the love, like I have
- 20:04Speaker 7: a lot of support. I think the Survivor fans for
- 20:07Speaker 7: their support, because you know, you're scared of how you're
- 20:09Speaker 7: going to be perceived, you see, and then you have people.
- 20:11Speaker 3: Riding hard for you.
- 20:12Speaker 7: You got the people like Star updates, making these problems
- 20:16Speaker 7: posts every day every week, pushing for you.
- 20:18Speaker 8: You got people rooting for you.
- 20:20Speaker 3: You got people like why.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Are they being mean? To start, it's like, thank.
- 20:23Speaker 7: You guys, cause then sometimes you feel like you're alone
- 20:25Speaker 7: on the island and you have nobody. If you have
- 20:28Speaker 7: no one, and watching back and seeing everyone that's shown
- 20:31Speaker 7: me so much love means alive.
- 20:34Speaker 3: You're welcome, Star, and you deserve it. Yeah, yeah, Star man,
- 20:39Speaker 3: what a great player. This season started off we were like,
- 20:43Speaker 3: Star does not matter to this game, and then dude,
- 20:47Speaker 3: I mean four weeks in and next thing you know,
- 20:50Speaker 3: everyone's like, Okay, Star might be the best person out there.
- 20:54Speaker 4: We have been robbed of Star at Final Tribal because
- 20:57Speaker 4: that would have been one of the spectacles like that
- 20:59Speaker 4: say would have been on the say, it would have
- 21:01Speaker 4: been brilliant on the jury. Even though Cedric has given
- 21:05Speaker 4: us Cedric jury updates every week on Instagram where he's like,
- 21:08Speaker 4: I'm locked in, got decisions to make, far from over. Yeah,
- 21:15Speaker 4: long Ways to Go seats are filling fast, so funny. Yeah,
- 21:20Speaker 4: I do love that. But yeah, I think I want
- 21:23Speaker 4: to play the preview for Week eleven next and then
- 21:28Speaker 4: we can wildly let wildly speculate based off that.
- 21:32Speaker 3: I don't want to hurt people, but every single path
- 21:34Speaker 3: harms someone.
- 21:36Speaker 6: Next time.
- 21:38Speaker 3: We need the good though to flip.
- 21:40Speaker 6: Here's to be made.
- 21:42Speaker 4: I want one of us in the final prese and
- 21:45Speaker 4: they're right, you're making one.
- 21:46Speaker 3: More trick on my flee.
- 21:48Speaker 4: I'm pissing me off. That was Mary chopping a coconut
- 21:54Speaker 4: and then saying it as she chopped it, So it's
- 21:57Speaker 4: kind of setting up Mary's going to be trying to
- 21:59Speaker 4: make something happen and then they're icing her out and
- 22:01Speaker 4: then she just goes home. That's the worst case scenario
- 22:03Speaker 4: that I can get off of that preview.
- 22:06Speaker 3: I'm not gonna trust the preview after well, yeah, last week,
- 22:10Speaker 3: this preview, it seems like they're kind of setting up, Hey,
- 22:12Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna do a move this week.
- 22:14Speaker 4: Or it's like, what's Kyle gonna do? I feel like
- 22:16Speaker 4: it comes down to Kyle. That line from Camilla about
- 22:19Speaker 4: like I just want one of us in the final three,
- 22:21Speaker 4: that's weird. No, it's the two of y'all. Y'all been
- 22:24Speaker 4: saying it the whole time.
- 22:25Speaker 3: Do you think she meant like a female, like at
- 22:28Speaker 3: least one female in the fut I.
- 22:30Speaker 4: Think she was talking to Kyle in the scene. Oh
- 22:32Speaker 4: so she was saying to Kyle, one of us has
- 22:35Speaker 4: to make it when I'm like, no, you two need
- 22:37Speaker 4: to make it to where both of you go, because
- 22:39Speaker 4: that was the point the whole time. I'm gonna have
- 22:42Speaker 4: a crash out, like on the level that I had
- 22:44Speaker 4: with Maria when she voted against Charlie and switched up
- 22:47Speaker 4: on him after everything she had said. If Kyle goes
- 22:50Speaker 4: back on his word and like Kyle was losing his
- 22:52Speaker 4: mind trying to keep Camilla in the game a couple
- 22:54Speaker 4: weeks ago. If in this episode of the next one,
- 22:57Speaker 4: he's like, you know what, I'm gonna cut bait with
- 22:59Speaker 4: Camilla and just right out with the strong guys. I'm
- 23:02Speaker 4: gonna have a hard time doing the podcast that villain.
- 23:06Speaker 3: He'll be a huge villain. Man.
- 23:08Speaker 4: Do you think that's gonna happen.
- 23:09Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know what to think anymore, Dude,
- 23:11Speaker 3: this whole season, it's like this season has it feels
- 23:16Speaker 3: like old school Survivor, so you would think people love it,
- 23:20Speaker 3: but it feels like old school Survivor to the point
- 23:22Speaker 3: where it's just like it might nothing miraculous might happen.
- 23:26Speaker 3: It might just be Joe and Eva and Shaheen.
- 23:32Speaker 4: With Kyle because there would be a fire making in
- 23:35Speaker 4: that situation. And if Eva or Joe, So let's say
- 23:38Speaker 4: that Kyle betrays Camilla, God forbid, he betrays Camilla and
- 23:43Speaker 4: Jonathan's curse works, and then the final four in that
- 23:47Speaker 4: scenario is I mean, the final three is either Joe Eva,
- 23:52Speaker 4: Shaheen or Joe Eva Kyle.
- 23:55Speaker 3: So I think I think it would be Kyle and
- 23:57Speaker 3: Shaheen that go to fire, depending on who wins the challenge,
- 24:01Speaker 3: I would say. I mean, if Kyle wins the challenge, though,
- 24:04Speaker 3: what if he sends Joe and a fire You know
- 24:06Speaker 3: that would be insane?
- 24:07Speaker 4: Okay, then it's like the whole season's worth it if
- 24:10Speaker 4: Joe and Eva have the phase off and Kyle because
- 24:14Speaker 4: we pissed at him for making them do that. In
- 24:17Speaker 4: the first place. Okay, yeah, that would save the season.
- 24:20Speaker 4: We figured out how to save the season.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Joe versus Eva. Was it Mary that said she has
- 24:27Speaker 3: one more trick up or sleeve? Yes? Okay. I want
- 24:31Speaker 3: to bring this up because I've been seeing a lot
- 24:32Speaker 3: of this online, where is all the idols.
- 24:35Speaker 4: There should be another one.
- 24:37Speaker 3: There should be another one.
- 24:38Speaker 4: Because they're all the original Tribe idols and nobody's found
- 24:42Speaker 4: one on the Merge Beach, right, Eva has one?
- 24:46Speaker 3: She got a second one from which it's not an
- 24:49Speaker 3: id Yeah, it's a safety without power yep, which is
- 24:53Speaker 3: kind of like an idol without a vote, right, so,
- 24:56Speaker 3: which she has to use this week. I'm pretty sure
- 24:59Speaker 3: it's either this week or next.
- 25:00Speaker 4: But that throws a wrench into it if she's said
- 25:03Speaker 4: on using it.
- 25:05Speaker 3: Yeah, but there is they like someone used an idol,
- 25:10Speaker 3: right or did someone go home with an idol?
- 25:12Speaker 4: Kyle used an idol. That's just like one move in
- 25:15Speaker 4: the game.
- 25:16Speaker 3: That's because the idols, the idol's refresh after you use them.
- 25:19Speaker 3: They get re hidden out in the woods.
- 25:21Speaker 4: And you would think on the Merge Beach there would
- 25:23Speaker 4: be at least one new one.
- 25:25Speaker 3: Do you think because we've had a weird edit this season?
- 25:29Speaker 3: Do you think Mary found the idol and they just
- 25:31Speaker 3: haven't showed it to us yet.
- 25:32Speaker 4: She would have been like, hey, Mitch, we have the
- 25:35Speaker 4: numbers and we have an idol, and like we can
- 25:37Speaker 4: guarantee this something like that. So I don't think she's
- 25:39Speaker 4: she has one at this point. Maybe she finds one
- 25:42Speaker 4: next week. That'd be great. I feel like we're just
- 25:45Speaker 4: grasping at straws now, Yeah, trying to be like, what
- 25:48Speaker 4: could what could happen that that could save Mary and
- 25:51Speaker 4: the underdogs in this situation.
- 25:54Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, and I imagine this is probably how
- 25:57Speaker 3: it's always felt whenever there's a season that's just being dominant,
- 26:00Speaker 3: needed by an alliance.
- 26:01Speaker 4: All right, let's let's start praying that Mary gets an idol.
- 26:04Speaker 4: Everybody do that at home.
- 26:06Speaker 3: I know that Mary's not on your drafted team, but
- 26:10Speaker 3: if somehow Mary won this season, I mean, how would
- 26:14Speaker 3: you honestly feel?
- 26:16Speaker 4: I would be really happy for her, because like, yeah,
- 26:19Speaker 4: Mary feels like our survivor friend, and then we don't.
- 26:23Speaker 4: That hasn't really happened with anybody else where. Like she
- 26:25Speaker 4: gave us her song to use as the theme song,
- 26:27Speaker 4: and like we did a bit with her and stuff,
- 26:29Speaker 4: where like, I've never felt that connected to a Survivor
- 26:33Speaker 4: player before, so I think I would feel like rupert
- 26:36Speaker 4: levels of sadness if she got voted out probably, and
- 26:39Speaker 4: then if she won, I would be really happy for.
- 26:41Speaker 3: Her, dude. And also, I mean people would lose their
- 26:46Speaker 3: minds if somehow someone that has been on the bottom
- 26:50Speaker 3: the whole time beat Joe and Eva and this dominant alliance.
- 26:53Speaker 3: If Mary somehow manages to get to the final three.
- 26:57Speaker 3: Because here's the thing, this is something we can talk
- 26:59Speaker 3: about if that final three is any combination other than Joe, Eva,
- 27:07Speaker 3: Kyle or Shaheen, whoever that third person is is winning.
- 27:11Speaker 4: Yeah, because the Jerry is gonna be really bitter because
- 27:14Speaker 4: I mean, just imagine Chrissy and David being there talking
- 27:17Speaker 4: about how much they hate Joe and then how much
- 27:19Speaker 4: they hate Eva because of how tight she was with Joe.
- 27:23Speaker 4: So it could be a landslide that could.
- 27:26Speaker 3: Be Dude, it's a like, I mean, classic Survivor. So
- 27:30Speaker 3: that leads me to believe that Eva would win over
- 27:33Speaker 3: Joe or whoever the third person is, because that's back
- 27:37Speaker 3: when it was only two. This is a three. Whoever
- 27:39Speaker 3: that usually would be the zero vote finalist will be
- 27:42Speaker 3: the undisputed winner.
- 27:45Speaker 4: I mean, so if you think it's like, if it
- 27:47Speaker 4: ends up being Joe, Shahen and Eva, do you think
- 27:49Speaker 4: Eva wins?
- 27:50Speaker 3: I think so maybe Shaheen.
- 27:52Speaker 4: And then what if it's Kyle instead of Shaheen. Would
- 27:54Speaker 4: Kyle get the win because he would have Camilla who
- 27:56Speaker 4: would probably be going to bat.
- 27:58Speaker 3: For him at least unless unless he turned on her.
- 28:02Speaker 4: Yeah, she might have some complicated feelings about that if
- 28:05Speaker 4: it ends up that way. See, that's that's what's fun
- 28:07Speaker 4: about this is that even though people are like, oh,
- 28:10Speaker 4: you know, worst thing ever, there's so many different ways
- 28:12Speaker 4: it could play out. Still, because I have three, three
- 28:16Speaker 4: or four weeks left, right three, I think, yeah, yep,
- 28:19Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.
- 28:21Speaker 4: If it does end up being like a slow march
- 28:23Speaker 4: to a Joe win, then yeah, at the end of it,
- 28:27Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like, that wasn't my favorite, you know,
- 28:29Speaker 4: final four weeks of Survivor. But right, but at least
- 28:33Speaker 4: when Rachel did it, it felt so exciting, you know,
- 28:36Speaker 4: because she was at the bottom, so she like she like, yeah,
- 28:40Speaker 4: did a speed run to the top and then just
- 28:42Speaker 4: stayed there for a week or two.
- 28:44Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awesome. But you know, and we can
- 28:46Speaker 3: still see that. I mean, if Mary finds a way
- 28:49Speaker 3: to get in that final three, I think it's a
- 28:51Speaker 3: landslide Mitch. I think Mitch could. I mean, Mitch has
- 28:55Speaker 3: made a lot of people mad.
- 28:56Speaker 5: Now.
- 28:57Speaker 4: I don't know, but I don't think Mitch has any
- 29:00Speaker 4: kind of resumeated point too though, and they might, but
- 29:05Speaker 4: it could be just spite for the other two players. Yeah,
- 29:08Speaker 4: but Mitch, I mean, what's what's his story? It's like, yeah,
- 29:12Speaker 4: I kind of accepted defeat and just just.
- 29:15Speaker 3: Went with it. If I was him, i'd open with
- 29:18Speaker 3: the stutter.
- 29:18Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe the mailman's story.
- 29:20Speaker 5: Again.
- 29:21Speaker 3: I've had a hard life, but I've overcome and I'm here.
- 29:26Speaker 4: And I feel like we've probably said some mean stuff
- 29:31Speaker 4: about Mitch and just kind of like, you know, skipped
- 29:33Speaker 4: over it and didn't think about it.
- 29:34Speaker 3: So, man, I feel like we've been pretty positive. Yeah.
- 29:40Speaker 4: I just I'm just covering the bass is hitting us
- 29:42Speaker 4: with the laser just in case good thing is painful.
- 29:47Speaker 4: I don't know what I did loud.
- 29:50Speaker 3: It doesn't even sound like a laser.
- 29:52Speaker 4: I don't know what it's just a wall of sound
- 29:55Speaker 4: in my phones right now.
- 29:57Speaker 3: All right, what's next on the agenda? Something?
- 30:00Speaker 4: I was going to play a deleted scene, but I'm
- 30:03Speaker 4: gonna be honest, and this is I think a problem
- 30:07Speaker 4: that people are having with the season in some capacity.
- 30:10Speaker 4: The deleted scene was really boring. So I'll just summarize it.
- 30:14Speaker 4: Uh Shaheen announces it's a reward challenge. Camilla thought it
- 30:19Speaker 4: was an auction at first, and then she was disappointed.
- 30:22Speaker 4: And then Mitch tells us how important food is in Survivor,
- 30:26Speaker 4: and that was it. You know, last week, me and
- 30:28Speaker 4: you played Star in a deleted scene for three minutes uninterrupted,
- 30:32Speaker 4: and we just sat there and listened and it felt
- 30:34Speaker 4: like no time at all. Yeah, it just flew by
- 30:37Speaker 4: because Star, we were hanging on every word of Star.
- 30:40Speaker 3: She's great.
- 30:41Speaker 4: But then like this scene, Mitch is like, yeah, people
- 30:43Speaker 4: don't realize, like you get so hungry on Survivor and
- 30:46Speaker 4: then the food really like it'll help you and maybe
- 30:48Speaker 4: it'll like give you the fuel you need to get
- 30:51Speaker 4: to that next conversation that puts you in a better
- 30:53Speaker 4: position in the game. Falling asleep, It's like Jeff on
- 30:56Speaker 4: his podcast, that's like Jeff level analysis on the PEFF.
- 31:00Speaker 4: I love Jeff for the behind the scenes stuff, but yeah,
- 31:04Speaker 4: on Fire can be a little Mitch like some dang
- 31:07Speaker 4: it laser.
- 31:11Speaker 3: That's very funny.
- 31:13Speaker 4: Another problem with having say go Home when she was
- 31:18Speaker 4: bringing so much entertainment value in David who is also
- 31:21Speaker 4: bringing a ton of entertainment value that it's just making
- 31:24Speaker 4: the season feel a little less like it was insane.
- 31:28Speaker 3: For the first year.
- 31:29Speaker 4: The pre merge this year was absolutely insane.
- 31:32Speaker 3: Probably one of the best pre merges ever.
- 31:35Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, at least of the New Era
- 31:37Speaker 4: for sure, you're coming off of that crazy high with
- 31:40Speaker 4: remember the Mary shot in the Dark thing, how we
- 31:42Speaker 4: were all celebrating like our team won the World Cup
- 31:45Speaker 4: or whatever, and like that feels like seasons ago. I
- 31:48Speaker 4: know that Survivor season. It is such a long campaign.
- 31:53Speaker 4: I do want to talk about Big Bro Club before
- 31:55Speaker 4: we get onto the last thing, please, because Big Bro
- 31:58Speaker 4: Club it was a mass have hit, you know, so
- 32:01Speaker 4: I just want to give a shout out to Jonathan
- 32:03Speaker 4: again also for giving us like something we can refer
- 32:06Speaker 4: to them as other than the Strong Guy Alliance.
- 32:09Speaker 3: Big Bro Club.
- 32:10Speaker 4: Tune into our hap this week tune into Rob has
- 32:13Speaker 4: a podcast, I think Wednesday or Thursday, because you might
- 32:16Speaker 4: hear Jonathan's voice. You might just if they if they
- 32:20Speaker 4: decide to play it, you might hear Rob Cesternino react
- 32:23Speaker 4: to Jonathan Wright singing whoa survivor Royalty? Rob might be
- 32:31Speaker 4: on fifty is going to react to Jonathan, so you
- 32:34Speaker 4: know Jonathan might be drafting him. If Rob really likes
- 32:37Speaker 4: the song, I bet Jonathan would say Rob first round
- 32:39Speaker 4: in fifty if that.
- 32:41Speaker 3: Happens to man, I'm I'm hoping we see Robbie c
- 32:45Speaker 3: on season fifty.
- 32:47Speaker 4: I hope so too. And then maybe like he'll let
- 32:50Speaker 4: Jonathan if he really likes the song, He'll let Jonathan
- 32:53Speaker 4: be on. No, it all's with fishback, dude, we don't
- 32:57Speaker 4: even let Jonathan on this show.
- 33:00Speaker 3: It's a good point.
- 33:02Speaker 4: Look, it's the power of music.
- 33:05Speaker 3: Yes, yes, no, in all honesty. Song is awesome. I've
- 33:08Speaker 3: been listening to it on repeat this week. Jonathan's killer, dude,
- 33:12Speaker 3: great musician.
- 33:13Speaker 4: Do you want to hear something that's not awesome from Jonathan?
- 33:16Speaker 4: Would great segue by me? So I tried to, and
- 33:22Speaker 4: this is pulling the curtain back for the listeners. I
- 33:25Speaker 4: tried to record a podcast with Jonathan starting at eight
- 33:29Speaker 4: o'clock tonight. It's currently eleven twenty and I'm recording with
- 33:33Speaker 4: a completely different person now, Chase Bridges. So we tried
- 33:37Speaker 4: to get on at first. I get on and Jonathan
- 33:40Speaker 4: is walking with his laptop and he's like, hey, I'm
- 33:43Speaker 4: I don't know if he wants me to put this
- 33:45Speaker 4: out there, but I'm gonna do it anyway. He's like, hey,
- 33:46Speaker 4: I'm not wearing pants. I couldn't. I can only see
- 33:49Speaker 4: his shirt. But he goes, hey, I'm And he's walking
- 33:53Speaker 4: with the laptop to the kitchen and he goes, hey,
- 33:55Speaker 4: I'm not wearing pants. I'm making my wife a sandwich.
- 34:00Speaker 3: Who are you? What is? What?
- 34:03Speaker 4: If I ever called you and that was happening, I'd
- 34:06Speaker 4: be like, Chase has lost his mind. There's something about Jonathan.
- 34:09Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, I guess Jonathan, would you know,
- 34:12Speaker 4: be only wearing a T shirt and then making his
- 34:14Speaker 4: wife a sandwich at at nine o'clock Yeah, while she
- 34:17Speaker 4: tries to put the baby to sleep.
- 34:20Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, who's pantsless that early?
- 34:22Speaker 4: I know? But but he did before we started record,
- 34:26Speaker 4: Like trying to record the podcast, He's like I'm gonna
- 34:28Speaker 4: turn my camera off and go put pants on real quick,
- 34:31Speaker 4: and so he did. Yeah, but I can only see
- 34:34Speaker 4: his shirt the whole time. Thankfully.
- 34:37Speaker 3: That's good. Yeah, I love how because I was a
- 34:43Speaker 3: little disappointed this week. I thought I wasn't gonna be
- 34:45Speaker 3: able to be on the Sanctuary because you guys are
- 34:49Speaker 3: gonna do it way earlier, because we usually record these
- 34:51Speaker 3: around ten thirty or ten, and they were like, hey,
- 34:55Speaker 3: can we do like seven or eight? And I was like, yeah,
- 34:58Speaker 3: I won't be able to make it. That's okay. I'm
- 35:00Speaker 3: on most of them, and then like seven thirty came,
- 35:04Speaker 3: and then eight thirty came and went.
- 35:06Speaker 4: And I've been texting.
- 35:07Speaker 3: I haven't started yet, and then I just gonna text
- 35:11Speaker 3: me and like, hey, I think it's me and you to.
- 35:16Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 35:16Speaker 4: So but me and Jonathan we did make an attempt.
- 35:19Speaker 4: We got into it well, okay, So I was I
- 35:22Speaker 4: was saying all this to set up that I went outside,
- 35:26Speaker 4: like I went to my car because after Jonathan and
- 35:29Speaker 4: the sandwich thing, I'm like, oh, I don't have my
- 35:31Speaker 4: glasses on. My glasses are in my car, and like
- 35:34Speaker 4: I should probably be able to read. So I went
- 35:37Speaker 4: and I and as I left, I said, hey, make
- 35:39Speaker 4: a song while I'm gone, just as a joke, because
- 35:42Speaker 4: you know, because that's Jonathan's thing. He makes songs, just
- 35:44Speaker 4: really good at it. And I come back and Jonathan's
- 35:49Speaker 4: just laughing, and I'm like, what's up, And He's like,
- 35:52Speaker 4: I made a song, but I didn't listen to any
- 35:54Speaker 4: of it. I just threw a bunch of loops together
- 35:56Speaker 4: and like, I we're gonna listen to it together live,
- 35:59Speaker 4: so I have it.
- 36:00Speaker 3: I would love to hear it.
- 36:02Speaker 4: The title of the track is I didn't listen to this,
- 36:04Speaker 4: and he titled it that because he said he had
- 36:07Speaker 4: it on mute and just threw a bunch of loops
- 36:09Speaker 4: into software. So all right, here we go. This could
- 36:13Speaker 4: be the worst thing you've ever heard in your life.
- 36:15Speaker 4: We'll see.
- 36:21Speaker 7: What.
- 36:31Speaker 4: It's forty five seconds long.
- 36:34Speaker 5: There's no wordin.
- 36:48Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I can freestyle, might need to
- 36:52Speaker 4: turn it down, but it's about to end.
- 37:02Speaker 3: All right?
- 37:03Speaker 4: What what?
- 37:04Speaker 3: What was that.
- 37:06Speaker 4: Not worth it being in the video or is it
- 37:10Speaker 4: so bad that it should be? But it's like there's
- 37:14Speaker 4: no vocals, there's nothing. He's just like, but he he's
- 37:16Speaker 4: saying really happy about it, like or it's this song.
- 37:21Speaker 4: It's like, hey, yeah, threw a bunch of loops together.
- 37:24Speaker 4: Let's see what happens on the podcast. Look, it's the Sanctuary.
- 37:27Speaker 4: Maybe I let it fly?
- 37:29Speaker 3: Maybe.
- 37:30Speaker 4: Uh, if if you were going to title that song,
- 37:33Speaker 4: what would you title it?
- 37:34Speaker 3: I would call it, uh calypso armstrong.
- 37:39Speaker 4: Okay, I think I would call it bold and brash.
- 37:48Speaker 3: Oh man? All right, dude, let's get to the final segment.
- 37:52Speaker 5: Three.
- 37:52Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody left a comment on Spotify that says, so,
- 37:57Speaker 4: when are we doing the Pop Girls podcast? I need
- 37:59Speaker 4: a Pop Girl Opinions episode. Yeah, so we're here to
- 38:03Speaker 4: give opinions, you know, and it.
- 38:06Speaker 3: Probably would be better if it was you and Jonathan.
- 38:09Speaker 4: Yeah, probably the music lovers.
- 38:13Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, But I'm gonna I'm gonna try my best
- 38:15Speaker 3: to give the people what they want.
- 38:16Speaker 4: Should we start with Jonathan because he sent us something. Yeah,
- 38:20Speaker 4: let's hear Jonathan's I respect his opinion.
- 38:23Speaker 6: All right, Okay, here's my pop artist list. I'm gonna
- 38:32Speaker 6: basis off a few things. So coming in at number
- 38:35Speaker 6: three is gonna be Ariana Grande. Now I am not
- 38:41Speaker 6: wildly familiar with her catalog, but every time I hear
- 38:46Speaker 6: her sing or every time I hear one of the hits,
- 38:50Speaker 6: I am blown away by how good she is and
- 38:54Speaker 6: just seeing live performances and stuff, She's really pretty amazing.
- 38:59Speaker 6: Number two, I'm gonna throw a twist in there. I'm
- 39:02Speaker 6: gonna say The Weekend he is dark pop. I really
- 39:07Speaker 6: enjoy his last three albums pretty much front to back,
- 39:12Speaker 6: and he like partners up with some artists. He partnered
- 39:15Speaker 6: up with Arianna as well. He's got some great producers,
- 39:19Speaker 6: including working with some of the guys from Daft Punk.
- 39:22Speaker 6: So yeah, The Weekend is number two for me. And
- 39:26Speaker 6: number one, I'm gonna have to say it's Taylor Swift.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Now.
- 39:30Speaker 6: I thought her last album was a stinker of an album,
- 39:34Speaker 6: but I am gonna say that Folklore nineteen eighty nine
- 39:39Speaker 6: and Reputation are all three really great albums. Don't talk
- 39:45Speaker 6: to me about the album, lover, I think it's stinky
- 39:48Speaker 6: as well. Don't talk to me about evermore because I
- 39:51Speaker 6: won't even remember a single song from it. But what
- 39:54Speaker 6: Taylor Swift has done has partnered with great people like
- 39:58Speaker 6: producers Jack Annanoff and the guy from the National. So
- 40:03Speaker 6: there you go.
- 40:04Speaker 4: I have some opinions, but because I know about the
- 40:07Speaker 4: albums he's talking about, because I've listened to every song
- 40:09Speaker 4: in them. I'm assuming that you you're probably like, he
- 40:11Speaker 4: says Lover is Stinky, and you're like, I don't know
- 40:13Speaker 4: what that means, No, no idea. I love that album.
- 40:17Speaker 4: Me and Jonathan we go at it because we've been
- 40:19Speaker 4: fighting about a Panic at the Disco album for about
- 40:21Speaker 4: four years now, where I mean, I don't even feel
- 40:24Speaker 4: that strongly about it. Our argument is that he says
- 40:27Speaker 4: it's horrible, and I'm like, it's kind of good, and
- 40:31Speaker 4: he's like, no, it's not kind of good, it's horrible.
- 40:34Speaker 3: So that's very funny. And it's also it's like you
- 40:37Speaker 3: two are the only people talking about Panic at the
- 40:40Speaker 3: disc You're right this go at this point, it's just
- 40:46Speaker 3: Brendan Yurry and he's like always in trouble for something.
- 40:49Speaker 4: Yeah, we really are the only people doing Panic at
- 40:52Speaker 4: the Disco discourse, just among ourselves.
- 40:55Speaker 3: How do you feel about his list?
- 40:56Speaker 4: Feels pretty basic in my opinion, Lover is Stinky. Definitely
- 40:59Speaker 4: just agree with that. But you know him saying he
- 41:02Speaker 4: didn't remember a single song off evermore, I also agree
- 41:05Speaker 4: with that take, So I'm gonna give Jonathan a Pass,
- 41:09Speaker 4: Kristensen hers, Yeah, let's hear CHRISTI. Yeah, she didn't give
- 41:12Speaker 4: us audio because she doesn't need to take two minutes
- 41:16Speaker 4: to elaborate like Jonathan. She just said she sent me
- 41:20Speaker 4: a few lists actually, and then she said, wait, I
- 41:22Speaker 4: gotta change my list. It's gotta be Taylor Swift, Leon
- 41:26Speaker 4: and Sia from ten years ago.
- 41:29Speaker 3: Okay, feels more unique.
- 41:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she did have Taylor number one, just
- 41:33Speaker 4: like Jonathan did. And she said honorable mention Casey Musgraves. Okay,
- 41:39Speaker 4: I guess it's it's time for me to give my list.
- 41:43Speaker 4: And you know I might be just as long winded
- 41:45Speaker 4: as Jonathan.
- 41:46Speaker 3: That's okay.
- 41:47Speaker 4: Well, see a number three. This is probably someone you
- 41:50Speaker 4: don't know.
- 41:51Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with.
- 41:52Speaker 4: Marina Diamandis Yeah, formerly known as Marina and the Diamonds.
- 41:58Speaker 3: Hold On, hold On. So she was in a band.
- 42:04Speaker 3: She was never in a band.
- 42:06Speaker 4: She just artist name was Marina and the Diamonds, but
- 42:09Speaker 4: her real name was Marina Diamandis.
- 42:12Speaker 3: Why and she just wanted to do a play on
- 42:15Speaker 3: her name.
- 42:16Speaker 4: And then the bit that she did was like the
- 42:18Speaker 4: the Diamonds are the fans because she's British or no,
- 42:20Speaker 4: she's Greek. If it wasn't for copyright. She has this
- 42:23Speaker 4: one song that I would play where like in the
- 42:25Speaker 4: Bridge she has a mental breakdown in a grocery store
- 42:28Speaker 4: and the spoons start talking to her, so like, she's
- 42:30Speaker 4: not afraid to get weird sometimes. Yeah, she tends to
- 42:35Speaker 4: write more about her philosophy for life, like topics that
- 42:38Speaker 4: are deeper than the other two artists I'm gonna list,
- 42:40Speaker 4: which mainly talk about men and partying the most important
- 42:44Speaker 4: and that brings me to Charlie XCX as my number two.
- 42:48Speaker 3: Yeah, big hit, big hit these days.
- 42:51Speaker 4: Have you seen the discourse. It's kind of hard to
- 42:53Speaker 4: escape because she a lot of people don't like her.
- 42:56Speaker 4: Why well, because she was at a Coachilla after party
- 43:00Speaker 4: and wore a sash that said should be headliner and
- 43:03Speaker 4: Twitter had to melt down. They're like, she is so ungrateful.
- 43:06Speaker 3: Hey, in my opinion, that's awesome. Yeah, it was pretty
- 43:11Speaker 3: That makes I agree with her. I don't know, I
- 43:15Speaker 3: could not tell you a single Brat song, but the
- 43:18Speaker 3: fact that it's all anyone's talked about for the past
- 43:21Speaker 3: six months, yeah.
- 43:23Speaker 4: Dude, Yeah, and I didn't really get it at first,
- 43:25Speaker 4: and I listened to the whole album and I loved it.
- 43:27Speaker 4: But everybody thinks it's like, oh, Charlie XCX is on coke.
- 43:31Speaker 4: And then she wrote an album to like do coke too,
- 43:33Speaker 4: and that's kind of true. But a key part of
- 43:36Speaker 4: it is that the mask slips a little bit and
- 43:38Speaker 4: then she goes from three six' five party girl to
- 43:41Speaker 4: Like i'm thinking about retiring and becoming a, mother or
- 43:45Speaker 4: my my relationship With lord is, complicated you. Know it's
- 43:48Speaker 4: like it's a lot of stuff going. On my reship
- 43:51Speaker 4: With lord is also Compl, yeah, look we've all been
- 43:54Speaker 4: in that. Vote but that's the song, girl so can?
- 44:00Speaker 3: Confusing. Yo the only thing that could make that, better
- 44:03Speaker 3: because you gotta, remember this is my first time hearing
- 44:06Speaker 3: idiot of. This, yeah the only thing that could make
- 44:08Speaker 3: that better is if she has never Met lord in real.
- 44:10Speaker 4: Life, WELL i get to explain the lore to. You
- 44:14Speaker 4: part of the lyrics is like we would go out
- 44:16Speaker 4: to eat and it's kind of awkward AND i wonder
- 44:18Speaker 4: do you really even like? Me kind of a. Thing
- 44:20Speaker 4: and then here's the. Thing though they worked it out
- 44:23Speaker 4: on the remix, ALBUM A Brat remix, album she featured
- 44:28Speaker 4: worked It. Out, yeah they worked it out that people
- 44:30Speaker 4: call it the working It out.
- 44:31Speaker 3: Remix what was The CHARLIE xcx song that was like
- 44:35Speaker 3: super popular five six years ago that got her. Famous
- 44:39Speaker 3: OH i don't CAN'T i love?
- 44:41Speaker 7: It?
- 44:41Speaker 4: YEAH i love?
- 44:42Speaker 3: It, yeah that was every. ABE i don't, CARE i love. It, yeah,
- 44:47Speaker 3: dude heck, yeah.
- 44:48Speaker 4: Dude but one THING i like about girls so confusing
- 44:51Speaker 4: live is that she will go on auto tune rants
- 44:54Speaker 4: during the intro before she kicks into the. Verse AND
- 44:57Speaker 4: i actually have one That i'm going to play for.
- 44:59Speaker 4: You you just talk about general problems and stuff before
- 45:02Speaker 4: she gets into the. Song so let let's take a
- 45:04Speaker 4: listen to this.
- 45:24Speaker 3: Stuff like. That heck, yeah. DUDE i always thought it
- 45:27Speaker 3: was really funny when she SAID i crashed my car
- 45:29Speaker 3: into the. BRIDGE i WATCHED i let it. Burn, Yeah
- 45:32Speaker 3: AND i just think that's.
- 45:33Speaker 4: Funny and that's part of being a. BRAT i guess
- 45:37Speaker 4: it all comes.
- 45:38Speaker 3: Back So you're number one is obviously gonna.
- 45:40Speaker 4: It's gonna, be and she's my number. One SOMETIMES i
- 45:43Speaker 4: get pushed back on that because people don't like her
- 45:46Speaker 4: as a, person but, PERSONALLY i do not care that
- 45:49Speaker 4: she looked at. DONUT i don't care that she SAID
- 45:52Speaker 4: i Hate. AMERICA i look her if she wants to
- 45:55Speaker 4: break up a marriage and Date Broadway, SpongeBob none of my, Business,
- 46:00Speaker 4: Okay i'm here for the.
- 46:02Speaker 3: Music, YEAH i. THINK i think the best musicians in
- 46:08Speaker 3: life have to be, problematic and she.
- 46:10Speaker 4: Is she's a very problematic person, sometimes but the music
- 46:15Speaker 4: is so.
- 46:15Speaker 3: Good you know her hit? Song, yeah you don't know
- 46:19Speaker 3: any of? Them Do what is her most? Hit, like
- 46:22Speaker 3: what is the most popular or?
- 46:23Speaker 4: SONG i think her biggest hit was Thank. You Next,
- 46:27Speaker 4: okay and that's that's my favorite pop album of all.
- 46:30Speaker 4: Time next that, album and she has a tribute song
- 46:34Speaker 4: about Mac miller that's, like it's pretty. Haunting it's one
- 46:37Speaker 4: of my favorite songs she's put, out BUT i don't
- 46:39Speaker 4: listen to it because it bumps me.
- 46:41Speaker 3: Out, yeah the best some of the best art is like.
- 46:45Speaker 4: That, yeah you experience it once and it's, LIKE i
- 46:48Speaker 4: don't need those emotions, again BUT i appreciate, it you,
- 46:51Speaker 4: KNOW i.
- 46:51Speaker 3: FELT i felt what you were putting out in the,
- 46:53Speaker 3: world and it'll stick with me forever AND i don't
- 46:56Speaker 3: need to hear it. Again, Yeah i'm gonna do my
- 46:58Speaker 3: top THREE i think it's good to be. Fun my
- 47:01Speaker 3: number three is gonna Be Chapel.
- 47:02Speaker 4: Romee, okay, yeah they were on the Same another person
- 47:06Speaker 4: that people take issue with in the.
- 47:08Speaker 3: MEDIA i like. HER i like, HER i like how
- 47:11Speaker 3: mean she, IS i LIKE i LIKE i don't. KNOW
- 47:15Speaker 3: i like all of her. SONGS i really like the
- 47:18Speaker 3: one That jonathan did the cover Of. CLUB i saw
- 47:24Speaker 3: a video of her performing that song at a park
- 47:27Speaker 3: in front of ten people and a, keyboard AND i love.
- 47:32Speaker 3: IT i love seeing people who love to make art.
- 47:36Speaker 3: SUCCEED i love people who love to make art succeed
- 47:40Speaker 3: to the point where they're so famous that they hate
- 47:42Speaker 3: being famous and they scream at paparazzi and all of
- 47:45Speaker 3: the fans because it's too, much because at the end
- 47:48Speaker 3: of the, day they just wanted to make. Art they
- 47:50Speaker 3: didn't sign up for all of the. FAME i love.
- 47:52Speaker 4: It and she was Watching survivor For.
- 47:54Speaker 3: Thomas, yes, dude yes so, YEAH a big fant barone
- 48:01Speaker 3: my number two and this is this of all.
- 48:04Speaker 4: Time this is just like of your your personal, taste
- 48:07Speaker 4: whatever your favorite.
- 48:08Speaker 3: Are my number two is gonna Be Justin.
- 48:11Speaker 4: Bieber, okay, yeah the kid be all bullied for no.
- 48:14Speaker 3: Reason, yeah but at the end of the, day he was. Cool,
- 48:18Speaker 3: yeah he. Was he's always been.
- 48:19Speaker 4: Cool he might have been getting bullied by every guy
- 48:22Speaker 4: on the, internet but the girls loved.
- 48:24Speaker 5: Him.
- 48:25Speaker 3: YEAH i THINK i even like when the whole world
- 48:27Speaker 3: hated him because he was just being. COOL i thought
- 48:31Speaker 3: it was awesome in seventh, grade the IF i was your,
- 48:35Speaker 3: Boyfriend i'd never let you. MOVE i could take your
- 48:37Speaker 3: places YOU i never been a phone baller. Song then
- 48:41Speaker 3: his phase where he was like spitting on people from a,
- 48:44Speaker 3: balcony and then also he had that like phase a
- 48:49Speaker 3: couple of years ago where he had that Song lonely
- 48:52Speaker 3: where he's like he's like playing people like, crying and
- 48:55Speaker 3: there was this video that went viral of him like
- 48:57Speaker 3: super drunk in the club singing the. Song it was very,
- 49:00Speaker 3: emotional AND i liked. THAT i like how much emotion
- 49:03Speaker 3: was into that that song where he was like and
- 49:05Speaker 3: everybody saw me sick and it felt like no one gave.
- 49:10Speaker 3: Us i'm, like, god dagn you're, right, dude we, didn't
- 49:13Speaker 3: we didn't. CARE i like. THAT i like all the emotion.
- 49:17Speaker 3: THERE i think he's a cool, guy all. Right my
- 49:19Speaker 3: number one pop artist of all. Time Taylor. Swift, NO
- 49:25Speaker 3: i have a Big Taylor swift. Hater my number. ONE i,
- 49:30Speaker 3: mean it's gotta Be Michael, jackson.
- 49:31Speaker 4: RIGHT i was a big fan of him WHEN i
- 49:33Speaker 4: was a, kid and when he, died especially everybody was
- 49:35Speaker 4: listening to him.
- 49:36Speaker 3: Died, yeah that this is it DOCUMENTARY i LOVED i
- 49:42Speaker 3: Loved Michael jackson so. Much.
- 49:44Speaker 4: Man, yeah he has some legendary songs that they're still.
- 49:49Speaker 4: Inescapable even though he died twenty years. Ago you'll still
- 49:52Speaker 4: hear his songs.
- 49:53Speaker 3: Just out and. About he's one of the Only.
- 49:56Speaker 4: No he didn't die twenty years, ago did he?
- 49:58Speaker 3: Close he has been around two thousand and.
- 50:00Speaker 4: Eight, yeah so why don't why don't we end this
- 50:03Speaker 4: episode by listening To jonathan's awful Song one More. Time
- 50:07Speaker 4: let's let's do it all?
- 50:09Speaker 3: Right?
- 50:12Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
- 50:16Speaker 3: Wor word just beat back, beat trying to get, damn
- 50:23Speaker 3: trying to Get michael Jack.
- 50:29Speaker 4: It's not really a great, beat not that great at.
- 50:32Speaker 3: ALL i do like one.
- 50:36Speaker 4: Horn, YEAH i think that's about to. Happen, yeah there we.
- 50:43Speaker 5: GO i like that.
- 50:46Speaker 2: All.
- 50:46Speaker 3: Right cutting it, off.
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