Latest / Reclaiming Consciousness / Making Big Money the Feminine Way with Jocelyn Kelly Reid
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- 0:03SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Reclaiming Consciousness.
- 0:05SPEAKER_02: My name is Elise Bassine, spiritual mentor, breathwork practitioner, and owner and CEO of Elise Breeds.
- 0:12SPEAKER_02: For many years, our consciousness has been hijacked by societal and cultural programming, religion, the media, and familial and ancestral trauma.
- 0:21SPEAKER_02: Right now, during this epic time in history, people are waking up, realizing who they really are, and reclaiming the pieces of their consciousness that they unknowingly gave away.
- 0:33SPEAKER_02: This podcast is an exploration of how so many spectacular humans are leading the way in exiting the matrix and reclaiming who they really are and what they're capable of.
- 0:44SPEAKER_02: In this show, you'll meet exceptional people who are paving the way in raising consciousness and creating a new way of living on this earth.
- 0:52SPEAKER_02: Get ready to go deep.
- 0:54SPEAKER_02: Now let's dive in.
- 1:00SPEAKER_02: Hey guys, welcome back to Reclaiming Consciousness.
- 1:03SPEAKER_02: I am so excited to share this next episode with you.
- 1:07SPEAKER_02: So, Jocelyn Kelly Reed, I met at the end of 2019.
- 1:12SPEAKER_02: She was my first coach, and you've probably heard me talk about her, but I was actually one of her first clients when she started her coaching business.
- 1:20SPEAKER_02: So I feel like her and I kind of grew together in a way, but she has always been such a lighthouse for me and such a source of inspiration because she's such a fucking badass.
- 1:30SPEAKER_02: So in this show, we just discuss, you know, our journey together and also how she built her business so quickly.
- 1:38SPEAKER_02: And she literally is the most magnetic person I've ever met in my life.
- 1:43SPEAKER_02: And she talks about how she really anchors that energy in.
- 1:46SPEAKER_02: And there are just so many golden nuggets of information and inspiration in this episode.
- 1:53SPEAKER_02: And she really just talks about how fully showing up for yourself and fully holding the energy of what you truly want is the most important thing you can do.
- 2:04SPEAKER_02: So I'm really excited to share this with you.
- 2:07SPEAKER_02: And I think you're gonna get a lot out of it.
- 2:09SPEAKER_02: Also, don't forget to rate and review the show.
- 2:13SPEAKER_02: Send me a screenshot and I will send you my miracle frequency activation totally free.
- 2:19SPEAKER_02: And also don't forget to reach out to me if you are thinking about working with me so we can chat about the best way to do that if you are ready to make miracles happen.
- 2:28SPEAKER_02: So let's get to the show.
- 2:32SPEAKER_02: I am so excited today because I have one of my like favorite people, I think, on the show today.
- 2:40SPEAKER_02: Um, probably one of the most magnetic and fiery people I've ever met in my life.
- 2:46SPEAKER_02: And I just love being in her energy and she's been so inspiring to me and such a huge part of my journey.
- 2:53SPEAKER_02: Welcome, Jocelyn.
- 2:55SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
- 2:56SPEAKER_03: I love that.
- 2:57SPEAKER_02: I really appreciate you.
- 3:00SPEAKER_02: Yes, I'm so excited to chat today.
- 3:03SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, I think I'd just like to start.
- 3:06SPEAKER_02: If you could just tell us a little bit about you and your story and how you ended up here.
- 3:13SPEAKER_03: So my story, well, it really started like I had a very intense Saturn return.
- 3:19SPEAKER_03: Most people's aren't as actually as bad as mine was, but I really had to have like a big wake-up call around how off the path I was.
- 3:27SPEAKER_03: And it was sort of like one of those experiences where all your shit gets handed to you on a platter at the same time.
- 3:34SPEAKER_03: It definitely was that way.
- 3:35SPEAKER_03: And I would not say I was spiritual, I was not self-development focused at the time.
- 3:40SPEAKER_03: I just had kind of been on doing the things, go to good schools, get a good job, have a boyfriend, yada yada.
- 3:47SPEAKER_03: And I was working in finance and I left San Francisco and moved to LA.
- 3:50SPEAKER_03: Just like my soul was just called there, and I didn't know for what in particular, I just followed the call.
- 3:56SPEAKER_03: And it was definitely meant to be, but in a, I think, far more painful way than anyone would wish on anybody else.
- 4:03SPEAKER_03: But it was also, you know, the places I was in.
- 4:06SPEAKER_03: And what I discovered that I had it just I didn't even realize it before was just like outsourcing a lot of my power, severe codependency.
- 4:15SPEAKER_03: It's kind of interesting because I feel like the other the ways that people got like addicted to drugs, etc.
- 4:20SPEAKER_03: I actually fell into like emotional addictions, but like I literally felt like the way that you would feel as an addict and like the level of anxiety and like the racing thoughts and the racing feelings, and like focusing in on like just this one person, this one thing.
- 4:35SPEAKER_03: It was insane.
- 4:36SPEAKER_03: And I had never like done that before.
- 4:38SPEAKER_03: So it also felt a little bit out of left field, but that person gave me a really powerful psychic awakening.
- 4:47SPEAKER_03: But again, that came really intensely.
- 4:49SPEAKER_03: I was hearing voices, I was hearing things like way off in the distance, much further away from where I was, like where I knew it didn't make sense to hear something so far away.
- 4:59SPEAKER_03: Like I remember one night I went out with my friends, and usually I could be in public places, and I went to a bar and I was like, I have to go home.
- 5:06SPEAKER_03: Like it was well, one when you're that psychically open with no protection, and then you go into a bar around like that much alcohol.
- 5:13SPEAKER_03: Like I do drink socially, but when you're in that kind of place, you know how they talk about how like, well, even the word spirit, right?
- 5:19SPEAKER_03: How it can like attract a lot of like dark alcohol can bring a lot of dark energies to us.
- 5:24SPEAKER_03: We've all had the experience when we had a little too much feel kind of in another dimension and it doesn't feel good, or too we're not opening up to the good things, right?
- 5:32SPEAKER_03: So I was feeling all of that, and I was feeling everybody's energy, and I was like, I have to go, you know, things like that when I was having premonition dreams about this person that I had that roller coaster relationship with, about things that were happening in my life.
- 5:45SPEAKER_03: It was literally like my psychic channels just blew.
- 5:48SPEAKER_03: I would have these crazy dreams where like I would just dream about light.
- 5:52SPEAKER_03: Wow, like just light, nothing else happening.
- 5:56SPEAKER_03: I would insane.
- 5:58SPEAKER_03: I know Lisa, it's really sad.
- 6:01SPEAKER_03: I like would be shown like souls, like I just saw so it was so intense, and I had no preparation for it.
- 6:12SPEAKER_03: Most people, I feel like in our era now, they're trying to build their intuitive gifts.
- 6:17SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 6:18SPEAKER_03: I was not looking for this found me and so powerfully and so intensely that it was overwhelming.
- 6:28SPEAKER_03: And then I mistakenly went down the road of like, oh, other psychics will help me figure this out.
- 6:36SPEAKER_03: That was the worst idea ever for someone who's codependent and obsessed about a relationship that's not going anywhere.
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:45SPEAKER_03: Still had a lot of victim consciousness.
- 6:48SPEAKER_03: So then that led to this whole cycle of dependency of getting answers and yada yada, instead of being directed towards I have this crazy gift, this isn't normal.
- 7:00SPEAKER_03: What do I do with it?
- 7:01SPEAKER_03: How do I direct the energy?
- 7:03SPEAKER_03: I did not learn that so, but I didn't know to learn it.
- 7:06SPEAKER_03: So anyway, all that ended in total disaster disaster.
- 7:12SPEAKER_03: I mean, this went on for a long time.
- 7:14SPEAKER_03: And finally, I had fibroids and I had to have surgery, and it was really powerful because this is when I'm saying all this to say this is when I stepped into healing for real.
- 7:25SPEAKER_03: It was weird because I had like tried to go to therapy and I was like, this is fucking bullshit.
- 7:29SPEAKER_03: This is not gonna work.
- 7:30SPEAKER_03: Like I could tell that that I was like, there's nothing happening here that's gonna work, but I didn't know any other option.
- 7:37SPEAKER_03: So I tried that, that wasn't gonna work, and then I just was like free-floating and it was kind of a mess.
- 7:43SPEAKER_03: But I just started reading, like I was like reading Abraham Hicks, but I didn't get it.
- 7:48SPEAKER_03: And I remember I think we all did that.
- 7:55SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 7:56SPEAKER_03: I get it a lot more now, but like at this time, I'm like hanging on by a thread, you know?
- 8:02SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and so being in the vortex is not landing yet.
- 8:05SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 8:05SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm in the vortex, I'm in the vortex.
- 8:08SPEAKER_03: Like, what the fuck is the vortex?
- 8:12SPEAKER_03: I know.
- 8:12SPEAKER_03: I'm like, how about like heal from codependency 101?
- 8:16SPEAKER_03: That's where I was really at, right?
- 8:18SPEAKER_03: You know, yeah, and deal with your trauma.
- 8:21SPEAKER_03: So I didn't even know what trauma was, though.
- 8:24SPEAKER_03: I was literally at that level at that stage, but and I remember I read Gabby Bernstein's book.
- 8:30SPEAKER_03: What is that?
- 8:30SPEAKER_03: Her one of her first books, Spirit Junkie, that didn't resonate either.
- 8:34SPEAKER_03: Yeah, nothing was like landing for me.
- 8:37SPEAKER_03: So when I got the fibroids, that woke me up.
- 8:40SPEAKER_03: I was like, You're never sick.
- 8:42SPEAKER_03: Like, what is this?
- 8:43SPEAKER_03: It was like all of a sudden this huge thing came into my life that took over my life.
- 8:48SPEAKER_03: I got a period that didn't stop.
- 8:50SPEAKER_03: I was bleeding for two months while they're trying to get me to stop bleeding so I could have the surgery to have them removed.
- 8:56SPEAKER_03: I had to leave my job.
- 8:58SPEAKER_03: Like it literally took over my whole life.
- 9:00SPEAKER_03: And when something like that happens, it's a clear sign.
- 9:04SPEAKER_03: Oh my God.
- 9:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 9:05SPEAKER_03: And that woke me up.
- 9:07SPEAKER_03: And then for some reason, something made me Google.
- 9:10SPEAKER_03: I knew that if something was that out of whack with my body, that something was truly going on.
- 9:15SPEAKER_03: And I remember Googling, like, what is the spiritual meaning for fibroids?
- 9:20SPEAKER_03: And this is how I found Louise Hay.
- 9:22SPEAKER_03: And she said that fibroids were about romantic shame and things in that department.
- 9:28SPEAKER_03: I was like, Oh wow, no wonder I spent the last five years acting like this, and here we are.
- 9:36SPEAKER_03: And I remember deciding that I was like fucking done with those dynamics.
- 9:40SPEAKER_03: I'm like, this is what it cost me.
- 9:42SPEAKER_03: I'm done.
- 9:42SPEAKER_03: I had surgery, and so I was home healing for a long time, and all of that.
- 9:46SPEAKER_03: And all I did was like listen to Louise Hay.
- 9:49SPEAKER_03: And you know, she her story is like she naturally healed herself from cancer, right?
- 9:53SPEAKER_03: She's crossing right now, and she was just the first person where everything like finally started to land for me.
- 10:01SPEAKER_03: And then I ultimately moved to New York, and that manifested with Louise Hay's help.
- 10:09SPEAKER_01: I love Louise Hay.
- 10:10SPEAKER_03: I was in the hospital listening to Louise Hay.
- 10:13SPEAKER_03: My mom would tease me because I made her stay in the hospital room the night after my surgery because I didn't want to stay in there alone.
- 10:18SPEAKER_03: I made her listen to Louise Hay.
- 10:21SPEAKER_03: I literally was like, that's all I did with my life when I could only just lay there.
- 10:27SPEAKER_03: But it worked.
- 10:28SPEAKER_03: I was like, I have to move to New York with her help.
- 10:31SPEAKER_03: I manifested the money to move, I manifested the dream apartment.
- 10:35SPEAKER_03: I definitely was not healed by any stretch of the imagination, but like I had enough power around the energy to like get to New York and get the place and all of that.
- 10:46SPEAKER_03: And then she's really what opened the door for me.
- 10:50SPEAKER_03: Once I realized that everything in my life was a byproduct of my choices, my decisions, my trauma, my energy, basically a byproduct of me.
- 10:59SPEAKER_03: I felt so empowered.
- 11:01SPEAKER_03: All of a sudden, I felt like I was in the driver's seat.
- 11:04SPEAKER_03: It was like, even though I got there the really challenging way, it was the best wake-up call of my life to discover that I was the source of all of this.
- 11:14SPEAKER_02: Totally.
- 11:14SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's the scariest, but it's the most empowering thing ever.
- 11:19SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'd much rather be in the driver's seat.
- 11:21SPEAKER_03: I'm like, perfect, let's go.
- 11:23SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 11:23SPEAKER_02: Because it's like you took your power back.
- 11:25SPEAKER_02: Now you have the control.
- 11:27SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, well, if I did this, then I can undo this and I can do whatever I want now.
- 11:35SPEAKER_02: Totally.
- 11:36SPEAKER_03: So that started the journey.
- 11:38SPEAKER_03: And then when I get into something, I go all in and I just became obsessed.
- 11:45SPEAKER_03: And I know originally, obviously, you found me on Lacey Phillips podcast because I had gotten really deep into her work and then manifested being on her show when I didn't even have a business.
- 11:57SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was manifesting things like crazy.
- 11:59SPEAKER_03: I was like, I'm a good manifestor, but I didn't, I didn't really, we all are.
- 12:03SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we all are.
- 12:04SPEAKER_03: I know.
- 12:04SPEAKER_03: We all are.
- 12:05SPEAKER_03: I just I don't know, something was really clicking in for me about it.
- 12:09SPEAKER_03: I also feel like perhaps I was on a bit of an accelerated timeline in certain ways because I was really intending to step into leadership, you know, more than I was just manifesting to build my own personal life.
- 12:22SPEAKER_03: I didn't realize it at the time, but it's like, yeah, they're also gonna help, I mean, thousands of women to this point.
- 12:29SPEAKER_03: And then over a lifetime, we don't, you know, it's limitless possibilities.
- 12:34SPEAKER_03: So I do feel like once I started getting my shit together, but I was very focused.
- 12:38SPEAKER_03: I put all of my money when I did not was not in the financial place, I'm in now, like I was literally not going on vacations, not buying new clothes, not going out to dinner with my friends all the time.
- 12:50SPEAKER_03: I put all of my money towards getting help for myself to heal, to expand, to get better at life, to feel good.
- 12:59SPEAKER_03: All I prioritized my well-being over everything because I knew something was needed to change.
- 13:06SPEAKER_03: I knew I wanted something else professionally, but I didn't know what it was, but I knew I wanted to feel good.
- 13:13SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 13:14SPEAKER_03: I just had that burning.
- 13:15SPEAKER_03: You know, the burning when you're like, there's something more, there's something more, there's something more, and you don't know what it is, but you know that you keep being called to go towards this investment, to go towards that person.
- 13:24SPEAKER_03: I mean, similar to when you start working with me.
- 13:26SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna say, like, this reminds me of exactly how I felt when I started working with you, which was I knew I wanted more.
- 13:34SPEAKER_02: I knew I was meant to be doing more.
- 13:36SPEAKER_02: I just didn't know what it is.
- 13:38SPEAKER_02: And the funny thing is, is we do actually know what it is.
- 13:41SPEAKER_02: We just haven't fully like admitted it to ourselves yet.
- 13:44SPEAKER_02: I knew I was supposed to work with you.
- 13:46SPEAKER_02: I had never spent that much money on anything before.
- 13:51SPEAKER_02: And I didn't know what I was supposed to do with you, like, but I just did it.
- 13:56SPEAKER_02: And then we figured it out pretty quickly, but I felt the exact same way.
- 14:01SPEAKER_02: It's like, you know, you're supposed to be doing more, you know that you're unhappy, you're not, you can't even quite put your finger on why you're like, I know I want more money, but like you don't know exactly what it is, but you just have to like keep going and keep going and keep going and really like betting it all on yourself.
- 14:19SPEAKER_02: I did the same thing.
- 14:20SPEAKER_02: I had no money.
- 14:22SPEAKER_02: You're like, I literally had no, I was pulling money out of thin air.
- 14:26SPEAKER_02: I literally was, but like that's the thing too.
- 14:28SPEAKER_02: I was always such a good manifestor, too.
- 14:31SPEAKER_02: Like, even back in the day when I did all my breath work training, I somehow figured out how to pay like three thousand dollars for a breath work training when I literally had no money.
- 14:40SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't even know how I did that, but you just somehow like figure it out, you know.
- 14:45SPEAKER_01: That's where there's a will, there's a way.
- 14:47SPEAKER_03: People want to think the money falls out of the sky, or they think they want.
- 14:52SPEAKER_03: I'm like, girl, if it's not here, you don't want it bad enough.
- 14:54SPEAKER_03: It because you would have like borrowed, put it on a card, gone to done something to make the money, sold something, or then, like, you know, because you usually put the energy in and then the money shows up, whatever.
- 15:06SPEAKER_03: But like, you would have taken all the steps in your power to take for the money to arrive, because that's what I was doing when there were no other options for me, you know, at that time.
- 15:16SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 15:17SPEAKER_02: And I think that's probably one of the reasons why you move so quickly.
- 15:20SPEAKER_02: When you started your business, it was kind of like just moving so fast in making money and just bringing in clients.
- 15:27SPEAKER_02: Not that I know everyone's journey, but just watching you versus watching other people.
- 15:32SPEAKER_02: I feel like you've probably moved the fastest out of anyone I've seen.
- 15:38SPEAKER_02: Like, what would you say is the reason for that?
- 15:42SPEAKER_03: Like tell people.
- 15:44SPEAKER_03: Isn't that the million-dollar question?
- 15:47SPEAKER_03: I really didn't know.
- 15:48SPEAKER_03: I started getting these downloads because remember, like earlier it was like intuitive transformation.
- 15:53SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was my coaching, and I kept hearing those words, and I didn't know what to do with them.
- 15:57SPEAKER_03: And I had manifested this opportunity.
- 16:00SPEAKER_03: I was doing business consulting, and I remember there's I had this one job and I got paid a day my rent in New York, and I was like, Are you kidding me?
- 16:08SPEAKER_03: It could be this easy.
- 16:10SPEAKER_03: What the hell am I doing?
- 16:13SPEAKER_03: And then I realized I wanted to help people, but I didn't really like know what to do.
- 16:19SPEAKER_03: And then it just finally landed, and I was like, I'm just going for it.
- 16:24SPEAKER_03: I just had to.
- 16:26SPEAKER_03: And I go all the way the fuck in when I go in.
- 16:30SPEAKER_03: My first priority is always me, right?
- 16:33SPEAKER_03: So, like, you know, I'm really into the feminine business vibes, not burning out.
- 16:38SPEAKER_03: I'm not the person who's up at 6 a.m.
- 16:40SPEAKER_03: doing the workout, strict routine every day, none of that.
- 16:44SPEAKER_03: But like I do get my shit done, but also like this is why I teach business too, so we don't make it complicated.
- 16:51SPEAKER_03: And I've never made it complicated.
- 16:53SPEAKER_03: I always was just like, this does not need to be complicated.
- 16:56SPEAKER_03: And I didn't do very well very fast.
- 16:59SPEAKER_03: Like I had my first, it was like a 13K month two months in.
- 17:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which is amazing.
- 17:05SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
- 17:06SPEAKER_03: And at that time, though it was just pure excitement.
- 17:09SPEAKER_03: I wasn't like I had no goals.
- 17:12SPEAKER_03: I was just, oh, I want to help people create a better life.
- 17:16SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, it's made$13,000.
- 17:22SPEAKER_03: I was very excited.
- 17:24SPEAKER_03: Obviously, we need a little more than excitement for the long game.
- 17:28SPEAKER_03: And you're gonna have days you're not like so, so, so excited.
- 17:30SPEAKER_03: But I just learned fast.
- 17:32SPEAKER_03: Like there was like two seconds where I offered, like, okay, I'll try sessions.
- 17:36SPEAKER_03: And I was like, fuck this.
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 17:38SPEAKER_03: You need to like it was so fast for it to be like, okay, this is a container.
- 17:43SPEAKER_03: I don't suffer through things.
- 17:45SPEAKER_02: I think that's part of it.
- 17:46SPEAKER_02: If you don't like something, you'll just stop it.
- 17:49SPEAKER_02: And the other thing, too, about you that I think is great is you do things how you want to do them instead of like subscribing to any kind of rules or anything, which I think is so, so, so important, especially with the type of businesses that we have.
- 18:04SPEAKER_02: But there's also a fine line because it's not like you can just do like whatever.
- 18:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like you can't wing it, but you can have like a knowing from your intuition that something feels right and you can do it that way, and you don't have to do it a way that someone else says or that other people have done it before.
- 18:26SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 18:27SPEAKER_02: So I feel like it's this fine line of like, no, of course you can't wing it, and you also can't just throw shit out there with no thought or energy aligned, you know what I mean?
- 18:38SPEAKER_02: But you don't have to play by the rules.
- 18:40SPEAKER_02: So I feel like it's like this, and you nailed that where it was like, okay, I know I can do it the way that I want, but I'm also gonna do it in a way that's totally aligned for me with my full energy behind it.
- 18:52SPEAKER_02: So I feel like that's part of it too, to me at least.
- 18:55SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
- 18:56SPEAKER_03: And I am a fast learner, right?
- 18:58SPEAKER_03: And I do have 15 years of corporate sales and marketing experience behind me.
- 19:02SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 19:03SPEAKER_03: So I've already seen a ton in corporate marketing.
- 19:06SPEAKER_03: So when I was coached by other people or would see things online, it's very easy for me to understand business strategy, right?
- 19:14SPEAKER_03: So the thing is it's like you don't have to play by the rules, but if you don't know what the rules are, you don't know how to even like put things.
- 19:22SPEAKER_03: It's one of these spaces where it's like you don't know what you don't know, right?
- 19:26SPEAKER_03: So like I would quickly absorb all the things and then be like, oh no, fuck that.
- 19:30SPEAKER_03: I'm not doing 75% of those.
- 19:32SPEAKER_03: You know, like but I knew what I was saying no to versus I think informed no's are fantastic.
- 19:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I totally agree with that.
- 19:45SPEAKER_02: And you did have the business background and you had the finance background.
- 19:49SPEAKER_02: You had made a ton of money before, you know.
- 19:51SPEAKER_02: I think for some women who are coming in.
- 19:53SPEAKER_03: Well, I also financially destroyed myself two times.
- 19:56SPEAKER_02: So we had a lot of right, but it was good, yeah, but it was good because you had all that background too.
- 20:03SPEAKER_02: And I think like some women who are coming in who never really made a lot of money or whatever, it's like there's more like attachment to it almost because you're like, oh my God, now I have to make this money and you make it a big deal.
- 20:14SPEAKER_02: And for you, I think because you had that experience, it wasn't as like I don't feel like you had as much of an attachment to it because you had like made a lot of money and lost it and made a lot of money and lost it.
- 20:24SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, I almost in losing it.
- 20:26SPEAKER_03: I've never thought about this till now because I would be like, What girl?
- 20:30SPEAKER_03: What happened?
- 20:31SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean, we know what happened.
- 20:33SPEAKER_03: It was like my internal environment is what happened those times.
- 20:37SPEAKER_03: I'm a risk taker.
- 20:39SPEAKER_03: Like, I will do shit that 99% of people wouldn't do.
- 20:42SPEAKER_03: I quit my job three months after I started my business.
- 20:47SPEAKER_03: Like, and not because I had a ton, yes, I was like, okay, my first 13K month or whatever, but like I live in New York, my rent is not cheap, right?
- 20:56SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was paying off my tax debt.
- 21:00SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 21:01SPEAKER_03: It wasn't just like, oh, all money's just sitting there, and then I went and invested in a$12,000 container.
- 21:07SPEAKER_02: So yeah, but that's how you have to be.
- 21:11SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm glad you're saying it because I feel like people they want to get the results, but they want to do it in a safe way.
- 21:19SPEAKER_02: And I feel like you can't really do that.
- 21:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they don't go together.
- 21:23SPEAKER_02: Like you have to be willing to bet it all.
- 21:25SPEAKER_02: Like you have to be willing to go all in.
- 21:28SPEAKER_03: I mean, I literally quite literally bet it all.
- 21:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah, me too.
- 21:34SPEAKER_03: I was like, here fucking goes.
- 21:36SPEAKER_03: But at least I made a hundred thousand dollars in four months on my first investment.
- 21:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's amazing.
- 21:42SPEAKER_03: Like, and I understand that not everyone moves in that trajectory, but I just fucking went all in.
- 21:49SPEAKER_03: I mean, you've always been such a great client.
- 21:51SPEAKER_03: You just do the things, you come to get the help.
- 21:54SPEAKER_03: I'm like, cool, let's do this.
- 21:56SPEAKER_03: You fill into it, and then you just immediately go do it.
- 21:59SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 21:59SPEAKER_02: Well, that's The whole thing that I never understood with people like, even when you go to therapy, right?
- 22:04SPEAKER_02: You might as well tell the therapist all of the crazy shit that is going on in your mind.
- 22:09SPEAKER_02: Because if you don't, then why the hell are you paying them?
- 22:12SPEAKER_02: And that's how I always felt about coaching.
- 22:14SPEAKER_02: Like, I just paid you a ton of money, I'm gonna do exactly what you said, even if it scares the shit out of me, even if I really don't want to do it.
- 22:22SPEAKER_02: Because if I don't, then what the fuck am I doing?
- 22:25SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 22:26SPEAKER_03: And this is how you got to where you are financially in this amount of time.
- 22:30SPEAKER_03: Like it's not complicated.
- 22:32SPEAKER_03: People just don't fucking listen and do the things.
- 22:36SPEAKER_03: No, it's really not complicated.
- 22:39SPEAKER_03: And then, or want to do the things, but not show up for the internal work.
- 22:43SPEAKER_03: And it's doing the things.
- 22:46SPEAKER_03: I just feel like you always received everything, obviously, more now.
- 22:50SPEAKER_03: You're further along and more comfortable.
- 22:51SPEAKER_03: And not like you moving blindly like the robot.
- 22:54SPEAKER_03: That's not the vibe.
- 22:55SPEAKER_03: Like it's still like, hey, this is how it feels to me for you.
- 22:59SPEAKER_03: This is what's coming through for me for you, right?
- 23:01SPEAKER_03: And you also got to like see what I was doing in my business and obviously fill things out for yourself too.
- 23:06SPEAKER_03: But you would just go, and I see so many people stalled on the go part and they want the fast results, but they move in the slow lane.
- 23:13SPEAKER_03: I'm like, well, you know, and I'm not talking about burnout vibes, I'm just saying like precision.
- 23:20SPEAKER_03: I do feel that I move with like a lot of intention and precision.
- 23:25SPEAKER_03: And I understand why I'm doing things, I don't just throw them up against the wall.
- 23:31SPEAKER_01: That's a huge piece of it.
- 23:32SPEAKER_01: You do things intentionally.
- 23:34SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 23:35SPEAKER_03: And then there's just the connection to self and the connection to source or spirit or whatever it is.
- 23:41SPEAKER_03: Things also just when they channel to me, I don't question them.
- 23:44SPEAKER_03: I just do it.
- 23:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 23:45SPEAKER_03: You know, or even in that first investment, right?
- 23:49SPEAKER_03: That's when I jumped.
- 23:50SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was at 30k months, like six months in, but I didn't do all the things that are in that container.
- 23:55SPEAKER_03: I probably did like 30%.
- 23:57SPEAKER_03: And I was like, cool, I'm good.
- 23:58SPEAKER_03: I don't need to do the other things, you know, and then like move on to the next thing.
- 24:02SPEAKER_03: I also wasn't like, oh my God, this person makes so much money.
- 24:06SPEAKER_03: I need to do everything they say.
- 24:07SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm gonna, you know, like I was like, I see, but again, for example, this coach who I greatly respect, but the way we do business is different.
- 24:16SPEAKER_03: She has that paid advertising, like engine, you know.
- 24:19SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 24:21SPEAKER_03: And it's so complicated, and there's so many funnels, and there's so much like up different levels of upsell.
- 24:27SPEAKER_03: Even when someone goes to buy one thing, you'd have sold to another thing.
- 24:29SPEAKER_03: Like, literally, she'll have like five things you get upsold into, and the Facebook bots, and so much going on.
- 24:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I was like, I'm gonna go ahead and like opt out of all of that.
- 24:41SPEAKER_02: Like and that's a lot, like, especially as people love that.
- 24:48SPEAKER_00: She loves it, yeah.
- 24:50SPEAKER_02: Um and everyone has to do it the way that works for them.
- 24:53SPEAKER_02: But the other thing I wanted to touch on too, that you kind of touched on, is just the piece around.
- 24:58SPEAKER_02: So obviously we have the moving with precision and getting an idea and going, but I want to talk a little bit about like the trauma aspect of it and how that factors into everything.
- 25:09SPEAKER_02: Because I think that's something that like I think we even talked about this before we started recording.
- 25:14SPEAKER_02: I think a lot of times women in business don't even realize sometimes that they're coming up against trauma or they don't know that that's what's happening.
- 25:23SPEAKER_02: So, how do you feel like you?
- 25:25SPEAKER_02: Because obviously you are able to move through trauma pretty quickly, even though you did work before you started your business.
- 25:32SPEAKER_02: Cause this is something that I feel like is so important.
- 25:34SPEAKER_02: So, like, what do you think for you was the biggest factor in moving through trauma?
- 25:40SPEAKER_03: The same way I do everything else.
- 25:41SPEAKER_03: Something comes up, get the help, move through the thing, keep going.
- 25:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 25:46SPEAKER_03: I don't sit with stuff.
- 25:48SPEAKER_03: I'm like, whoop, this feels bigger than me.
- 25:51SPEAKER_03: The second something feels bigger than me, I go do something about it.
- 25:56SPEAKER_03: I always have help.
- 25:58SPEAKER_03: I am always invested in multiple mentors.
- 26:01SPEAKER_03: I am invested in people who do a variety of different things.
- 26:05SPEAKER_03: Also, you don't move as fast as I've moved without a team behind you.
- 26:09SPEAKER_02: Totally.
- 26:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 26:11SPEAKER_03: Period, the end.
- 26:13SPEAKER_03: So I've also been like very heavily invested in support for myself.
- 26:18SPEAKER_03: The trauma piece is huge.
- 26:20SPEAKER_03: And right, you don't get into the cycles that I got into during my Saturn return.
- 26:24SPEAKER_03: You don't get into like the financial chaos I had during that time without unaddressed trauma.
- 26:30SPEAKER_03: Totally.
- 26:31SPEAKER_03: And I mean, we all have it.
- 26:33SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 26:34SPEAKER_03: At this point, I used to carry more shame around it.
- 26:37SPEAKER_03: Like if you look at my family, it makes no sense, surface level sense, that I would have created financial chaos because my dad was a rack to riches story, but there's so much addiction, abuse, financial drama.
- 26:51SPEAKER_03: Like it's like he did part of the work, right?
- 26:53SPEAKER_03: And he made it a very successful empire for himself.
- 26:57SPEAKER_03: But like I somehow picked up the trauma, right?
- 27:02SPEAKER_03: It got it still got passed on to me.
- 27:05SPEAKER_03: So I started playing out these elements of it.
- 27:09SPEAKER_03: And it was weird because I remember doing healing around feeling in scarce the level of um scarcity that when I really got into my stuff and into my healing that I felt around like survival money.
- 27:21SPEAKER_03: I was like at an anxiety level 10.
- 27:24SPEAKER_03: It made no sense for how I grew up financially.
- 27:27SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 27:27SPEAKER_03: That's so interesting.
- 27:28SPEAKER_03: My father is a multi, multi, multi-millionaire, never wanted for a thing, everything paid for in cash, no debt.
- 27:37SPEAKER_03: Why am I in financial total scarce?
- 27:40SPEAKER_03: And I just realized because thank God for my like psychic awakening, I was like, this shit doesn't belong to you.
- 27:46SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 27:47SPEAKER_03: You were carrying around all the drama from your lineage.
- 27:52SPEAKER_02: Totally.
- 27:53SPEAKER_02: And it also feels like with your dad, it was like he healed it partially by shifting it, but didn't heal some of like the deeper ancestral wounding.
- 28:05SPEAKER_02: So then that's what you took on.
- 28:07SPEAKER_02: And this is important because everyone has to address this stuff.
- 28:11SPEAKER_02: If you really want to move forward in the way that you have, in the way that I have, and like really grow something, you have to address this stuff.
- 28:20SPEAKER_02: And everybody has it in some capacity.
- 28:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 28:24SPEAKER_02: So I think that's so important to just realize like, yes, even though your dad's life looked the way that he did, like, there's still so much underneath.
- 28:32SPEAKER_02: Oh, totally.
- 28:33SPEAKER_03: And I'm the person in the family who was sent to transmute all the trauma for everybody.
- 28:40SPEAKER_02: Don't you love it?
- 28:41SPEAKER_03: You're like, why did I agree to do this?
- 28:44SPEAKER_03: I for both sides of the lineage is I picked up different things from different sides, but it also in a way it was freeing to have the realization because like my brothers didn't go through.
- 28:54SPEAKER_03: I'm like, what is my fucking deal?
- 28:56SPEAKER_03: They didn't end that, you know.
- 28:59SPEAKER_03: So I have a different purpose.
- 29:01SPEAKER_03: And also, right, I help women with money.
- 29:03SPEAKER_03: If I hadn't had that journey, what was I gonna grow up the way I grew up?
- 29:06SPEAKER_03: Go to Ivy League school, work for the largest asset manager in the world, and then be like, I'm gonna help you change your life.
- 29:11SPEAKER_03: I haven't been through anything.
- 29:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like that's not happening.
- 29:16SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I would have had like no depth.
- 29:20SPEAKER_03: I mean, I always carried a certain amount of depth.
- 29:22SPEAKER_03: It's me, but you know what I mean?
- 29:23SPEAKER_03: You need some like life experience type depth.
- 29:25SPEAKER_03: Oh, definitely.
- 29:26SPEAKER_02: I always feel like it's like the perfect combination of life experience plus your natural talents.
- 29:32SPEAKER_02: Like you've always had, like I always say, you know, obviously I spent a decade working with traumatized children.
- 29:39SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna be really good at helping people move through childhood trauma, you know.
- 29:44SPEAKER_02: But um, the other thing I wanted to ask you about, too, that I think is really important that you were talking about in the beginning is your psychic abilities and how you really figured out how to work with them.
- 29:54SPEAKER_03: Because I feel like that's such a journey for people who this is one space I was never trained in at all.
- 30:02SPEAKER_03: It's just there.
- 30:03SPEAKER_00: Cause I feel like I know that was yeah, me too.
- 30:07SPEAKER_02: Cause I feel like for me as well, like that I didn't know how to use it.
- 30:11SPEAKER_02: It literally like turned in on me, where it like turns into anxiety and it turns into like self-hatred and all of this stuff.
- 30:20SPEAKER_02: So, how did you really like learn how to work with your ability?
- 30:24SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so my Saturn return, right?
- 30:26SPEAKER_03: When it all got woken up, it was a disaster.
- 30:28SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was blown out by it, as you know.
- 30:32SPEAKER_03: And then in my business, it's interesting.
- 30:35SPEAKER_03: So I feel like I experienced what you're talking about earlier, and then it just calmed down a lot.
- 30:42SPEAKER_03: Oh, I just wanted to say something too because you're asking about trauma and business.
- 30:44SPEAKER_03: And I do feel like, in addition to like the businessy things, it for me, it's always the focus of trauma, the focus on my energy and the focus on embodiment.
- 30:53SPEAKER_03: And those are the three spaces I'm always playing in that I feel like created this like quantum ascension for me in terms of like areas that I'm focused on.
- 31:03SPEAKER_03: That makes sense.
- 31:03SPEAKER_03: So, which is also why like there's the variety in my business as well, because it works.
- 31:08SPEAKER_03: Okay, but to answer your question, how do I learn to play with it?
- 31:12SPEAKER_03: For me, it was more just like trusting it, yeah.
- 31:16SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 31:16SPEAKER_03: I would always know, always know, right?
- 31:19SPEAKER_03: It's like when you start dating the person and it's not the person, you know, in like five minutes.
- 31:23SPEAKER_03: I know, oh, give them a chance.
- 31:28SPEAKER_03: I remember my EMDR therapist, he was like, You especially need to like just listen the first because it's like you know immediately everything, just go with that, you know.
- 31:41SPEAKER_03: I had to learn to trust myself the more that I did the work, the more turned on I was, not just floating out in the fucking ethers, but I became like my body became a channel, and that's what was different.
- 31:59SPEAKER_03: So in the beginning, I was just like fucking spinning out, we don't even know where, but my body wasn't turned on or my body wasn't open.
- 32:07SPEAKER_03: And then as my body became more open through all the healing, through all the things, my the whole experience became a lot more grounded.
- 32:15SPEAKER_03: So then the way that I was receiving information and the way you know that I'd be led to do things, it just everything wasn't so crazy anymore.
- 32:22SPEAKER_03: I'll still have some wild dreams, where I'm like, what the hell is happening on the astral plane?
- 32:27SPEAKER_03: You know, I don't know that we'll ever fully make sense of our dreams, but in my waking experience, and I just had to learn to trust myself.
- 32:35SPEAKER_03: And it's funny because I attract so many healers, and I was like, Oh, they're a quantum, and I'd always identify, I'm like, You're a quantum healer, this is your fucking vibe, this is what you're here for.
- 32:45SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, I would see, and I'm like, oh, well, no wonder I have that in me too.
- 32:49SPEAKER_03: Because I'd be like, why am I attracting so many of these women?
- 32:52SPEAKER_03: You know, because it wasn't like, oh, I'm a healer.
- 32:55SPEAKER_03: I wasn't saying like I'm a healer who's a business coach.
- 32:58SPEAKER_03: I found out the feminine energy healing piece after, but it was almost like I had attracted so many women who I could see the depth of their healing abilities when they couldn't.
- 33:07SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 33:08SPEAKER_03: And I was like, of course this is what you're here for.
- 33:09SPEAKER_03: So then no big shocker that it was within me as well.
- 33:12SPEAKER_03: And so I just had to trust.
- 33:13SPEAKER_03: And I remember like being on calls with clients, and I would be told to like do these certain things or take them through processes, and I was like, what?
- 33:21SPEAKER_03: Because it's almost like I had to believe my own message, where I'm literally like, fuck another certification.
- 33:27SPEAKER_02: We are in oh my god, I know.
- 33:29SPEAKER_03: And I say that all the time.
- 33:31SPEAKER_03: You know, sometimes you get a little spoonful of your own medicine, yeah.
- 33:35SPEAKER_03: And I'm always like, we're in the era of channeled wisdom.
- 33:38SPEAKER_03: I've seen it through so many clients.
- 33:40SPEAKER_03: Like, maybe you take a little course to get this turned on or whatever, but like no one can teach you this.
- 33:46SPEAKER_03: We're in the space of like quantum healing, quantum ascension, all of these kind of things.
- 33:51SPEAKER_03: Like, I know the breathwork part of your business is different, but you're moving in a multidimensional way, also.
- 33:56SPEAKER_03: Like it comes through you, it actually comes through your body.
- 34:00SPEAKER_03: I say that we're all like modern day medicine women.
- 34:03SPEAKER_02: I agree.
- 34:04SPEAKER_02: And I've been seeing that too, because you know, with a lot of the women that I work with that start to heal trauma and open up, it's always that they end up channeling their own unique energy medicine, whether it's through sound or being a quantum healer or whatever it is, it's their own unique thing.
- 34:23SPEAKER_02: And I truly believe that that frequency, you and I and people like us are helping people like turn on their unique frequency so that they can spread it to the people who they need to spread it to, who they're gonna turn on.
- 34:38SPEAKER_02: It's just like a whole domino effect almost.
- 34:42SPEAKER_02: But I really don't believe that we need to do these different certifications.
- 34:47SPEAKER_02: I mean, there are certain things that, yes, I think are very helpful.
- 34:51SPEAKER_02: And if you're really drawn to something like breath work or even like the Akashic Records or whatever, but I still believe that we can also just tune into the divine mind, the Akashic Records, and just channel that information.
- 35:07SPEAKER_02: And like, that's what my guides have been showing me so strongly is turning on this intergalactic knowledge portal that they showed me how to activate within people.
- 35:18SPEAKER_02: And that is like your connection to all the wisdom in the different galaxies and the cosmos and everything.
- 35:25SPEAKER_02: So we have the ability to connect to that.
- 35:29SPEAKER_02: It's just about, like you were saying, like actually trusting that and believing that we can, instead of thinking we need something outside of ourselves, which is like that old program, that old way of thinking of like you need somebody else to tell you how to do it.
- 35:44SPEAKER_02: You need somebody else to tell you it's okay, when really we can just do it ourselves.
- 35:51SPEAKER_03: And the more that you show up in containers with women like us who do this kind of work, it's just going to turn on inside of you.
- 35:56SPEAKER_03: Like this is the osmosis that is quote unquote hard to explain and is real.
- 36:01SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 36:01SPEAKER_02: Plus, when you heal your trauma, right?
- 36:03SPEAKER_02: Because the trauma piece is like what's holding everybody back and holding you in all this old programming and all these old ways of thinking.
- 36:12SPEAKER_02: So it's harder to open up when you're stuck in all of those loops, you know.
- 36:16SPEAKER_02: But once you clear that, it's like forget it.
- 36:19SPEAKER_02: Then you can just be a channel.
- 36:20SPEAKER_03: Well, I think too, what's different though in our spaces, though, is also the activation piece.
- 36:25SPEAKER_03: Because you've probably received I've received so many people who've been doing so much work.
- 36:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 36:31SPEAKER_03: And it's not amounting to anything tangible, right?
- 36:35SPEAKER_03: You know, yeah.
- 36:37SPEAKER_03: And so that's something that I've always been like, hmm, what is going on?
- 36:41SPEAKER_03: It's not like they haven't been doing anything.
- 36:44SPEAKER_03: I mean, I can see where the well, to me, but I I'm curious about your opinion too.
- 36:49SPEAKER_03: It's like getting addicted to one thing or one method or one person's way and thinking that's a fucking holy grail.
- 36:55SPEAKER_03: And if that one thing isn't working for you, you just keep going at it over and over, like banging your head against the one.
- 37:01SPEAKER_03: Like to me, this healing journey, addressing our trauma, the ascension, the expansion is extremely multidimensional.
- 37:08SPEAKER_02: Oh my God, so multidimensional.
- 37:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and there's so many different ways for different people, right?
- 37:15SPEAKER_02: Of like looking at it and things that need to be activated within them, and different people that need to activate those things.
- 37:22SPEAKER_02: So I think if somebody's been doing like a ton of work, quote unquote, well, it's like, what are they doing?
- 37:30SPEAKER_02: And also are they fully receiving it and opening up to it?
- 37:34SPEAKER_02: Because I know people who have been doing quote unquote personal growth work for 20 or 30 years that haven't really moved very far.
- 37:44SPEAKER_02: But it's also because I feel like some people, it's kind of that idea of spiritual bypassing, although I don't need to say it like that.
- 37:51SPEAKER_02: I think it's just more that they want to feel like they're doing the work, but are they really going there within themselves?
- 37:58SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like the only way you can really move forward is if you are willing to face the deepest, darkest parts of you, like those pieces of you that you don't want to look at, that you want to pretend aren't there, and that you don't want to admit to yourself, that's how you move forward.
- 38:14SPEAKER_02: That's how you grow.
- 38:16SPEAKER_02: If you don't do that, then nothing's really gonna happen.
- 38:20SPEAKER_02: And I feel like some people like to skirt over it and do the things that feel good, or even like go there, but not fully go there, so that they're not getting the full transformation.
- 38:32SPEAKER_02: And I've seen a lot of women doing that in the space as well.
- 38:35SPEAKER_02: But I also feel like those are the women who are always skirting around me but never want to actually work with me because they know they can't do that.
- 38:43SPEAKER_03: Skirting around life, period, is what they're getting.
- 38:45SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 38:46SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just skirting around life.
- 38:48SPEAKER_02: But I feel like they're never gonna be attracted to fully going there and somebody who can really see and pinpoint the thing that they don't want to see.
- 38:57SPEAKER_02: They don't want to work with somebody that's gonna do that.
- 39:00SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 39:01SPEAKER_03: It's so crazy because I always was so relieved to have these answers, so relieved to find out what was going on in the depths of me.
- 39:10SPEAKER_03: Like I was like, I'm not saying it all felt good, but every time it felt deep, I was like, fuck yes, we're getting to the other side.
- 39:18SPEAKER_02: Yes, totally, even if it sucked, you know what I mean?
- 39:22SPEAKER_02: Like, I remember there was a moment I wanted to grow, you know, like I had started my business, but I wasn't, you know, attracting clients in the way that I wanted to.
- 39:32SPEAKER_02: And that was always a big thing for me as client attraction.
- 39:35SPEAKER_02: And I realized I had to get really honest with myself about like the actual parts of my life that I was saying yes to that were a no for me.
- 39:45SPEAKER_03: It happens at every level.
- 39:47SPEAKER_03: I mean, you've even seen it getting, you know, in your most recent income level.
- 39:51SPEAKER_03: Yeah, totally.
- 39:52SPEAKER_03: And this isn't just like an early bird issue, ladies.
- 39:55SPEAKER_03: Just you know, this comes up for me too.
- 39:57SPEAKER_03: This is every level, new fucking standards everywhere, and just new, like what I think you're explaining, obviously.
- 40:04SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like deeper level of truth, deeper level of truth, deeper level of truth.
- 40:09SPEAKER_03: How does every single part of my life reflect this truth?
- 40:12SPEAKER_03: We don't even know we're not in our truth.
- 40:14SPEAKER_03: It's the wildest thing you've ever thought.
- 40:16SPEAKER_02: Isn't it crazy?
- 40:17SPEAKER_02: Like, it's literally well, I mean, let's just be real.
- 40:20SPEAKER_02: Like, we have been brainwashed.
- 40:22SPEAKER_02: So there's that.
- 40:26SPEAKER_02: We don't even realize that we are actually not doing what we want to do.
- 40:32SPEAKER_02: It's so weird.
- 40:33SPEAKER_02: Okay, yes, there was a part of me that enjoyed being a school counselor and it was good for me for a certain amount of time.
- 40:40SPEAKER_02: But until like I started working with you and getting like really clear, it was like I really thought that that's what I wanted.
- 40:48SPEAKER_02: And then I was like, Well, why am I not happy?
- 40:51SPEAKER_02: And then it was like, wait a second, I actually don't even want to do this.
- 40:55SPEAKER_02: I'm only doing this because that's what my parents did.
- 40:58SPEAKER_02: Well, I thought that immediately.
- 41:00SPEAKER_02: I was like, She's only in this career because that's what her family, that's what her family is.
- 41:03SPEAKER_02: Right, but like how and me, and and Jocelyn, I have been doing breath work and stuff for like 20 years, and I still wasn't admitting that to myself.
- 41:12SPEAKER_02: Like, the ways we can lie to ourselves is just insane.
- 41:17SPEAKER_03: No, I'm with you.
- 41:19SPEAKER_03: This comes up for me at every new financial level.
- 41:22SPEAKER_03: There's something, it's not always as intense, right?
- 41:27SPEAKER_03: But like sometimes it'll catch me by surprise.
- 41:30SPEAKER_03: I'm like, oh, you're friends with that person.
- 41:33SPEAKER_03: Wow, overnight.
- 41:34SPEAKER_03: Well, seemingly overnight.
- 41:35SPEAKER_03: Clearly, there's always things that I was feeling into where I was like, huh, am I being judgy?
- 41:40SPEAKER_03: Is this real?
- 41:41SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 41:42SPEAKER_03: Then they do something, I'm like, boom, there it is.
- 41:45SPEAKER_03: You gotta go, you know, right.
- 41:47SPEAKER_02: I mean, well, think about it with my freaking relationship.
- 41:51SPEAKER_02: I mean, like, you know, it's like, whoa, I can't believe that I was, you know, allowing certain things to happen in my life that I actually wasn't okay with that I was telling myself that I was okay with.
- 42:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's insane where we can do that to ourselves.
- 42:10SPEAKER_02: And then, but that's the thing, like that's where we hit a certain wall, right?
- 42:15SPEAKER_02: And if we want to go through that wall, we have to look at that.
- 42:19SPEAKER_03: This is stuff where we get help.
- 42:21SPEAKER_03: These are not like revelations you're just having by yourself.
- 42:24SPEAKER_03: Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
- 42:26SPEAKER_01: You need someone to show you that.
- 42:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I feel like people want to think that they can just like meditate and do yoga and all this stuff is gonna transpire.
- 42:35SPEAKER_03: This is not how it goes.
- 42:36SPEAKER_03: I was not, yes, I meditate.
- 42:38SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, I don't do yoga now, but I used to.
- 42:40SPEAKER_03: Yes, I did yoga, but like that is not how I fucking got here.
- 42:45SPEAKER_02: No, that's not, and you can't do it on your own.
- 42:48SPEAKER_02: That's a thing.
- 42:49SPEAKER_02: Like, I remember I was interviewed for an article a couple of weeks ago, and it was about not shadow work, but it was like manifesting like abundance, and then I was talking about shadow work or something, and the question was like, What's the quickest way that someone can get started now?
- 43:03SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, you can't just do it on your own.
- 43:06SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know how to answer this question.
- 43:08SPEAKER_03: I hate the number one question I hate being asked on podcasts, any kind of interview is my fucking tips and tricks.
- 43:15SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm like, no, go all in.
- 43:18SPEAKER_02: My tip is to go all in.
- 43:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like you're not, and it's I'm glad that you brought this up because this is something that bothers me so much.
- 43:27SPEAKER_02: Because before I had really good boundaries, and before I was at a certain level of my business, I would feel like I had to give some kind of thing that people could do on their own or give them some kind of thing when it actually felt out of integrity for me to do that.
- 43:45SPEAKER_02: Because if you want a real transformation, like if you really want to live a life that is beyond what most people are doing, like you can't just journal or meditate or do.
- 44:00SPEAKER_02: breath work on your own or like think about it or listen to podcasts.
- 44:05SPEAKER_02: You have to put your money where your mouth is.
- 44:09SPEAKER_02: You have to repeatedly repeatedly.
- 44:12SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 44:13SPEAKER_02: You have to go all in with your energy, with your money.
- 44:17SPEAKER_02: You have to be uncomfortable and you have to be willing to look at the parts of yourself that you don't want to look at.
- 44:25SPEAKER_02: That's really what it is.
- 44:26SPEAKER_02: And like I think, you know, for me why I've had success is because I figured out how to move through my trauma really quickly.
- 44:33SPEAKER_02: And I was always willing to look at it no matter how uncomfortable it is.
- 44:38SPEAKER_02: Because you have to do that.
- 44:39SPEAKER_02: Like you can't just be like, oh, let me just do this thing.
- 44:42SPEAKER_02: So I'm glad you brought that up because that's what drive me nuts.
- 44:45SPEAKER_02: And like now I feel like I have the the wherewithal within myself where I'm like no you have you can't there's nothing that I can tell you to do it.
- 44:53SPEAKER_03: It's a joke I don't why are we in this society?
- 44:56SPEAKER_03: I'm like, can we stop with these quick hits?
- 44:58SPEAKER_03: Why are you even asking me about a tip for building like a near million dollar business?
- 45:04SPEAKER_03: Do you know what I mean?
- 45:05SPEAKER_03: Like what are these questions?
- 45:07SPEAKER_03: Or I'll get and it'll be like basically like you said tips for healing your trauma.
- 45:13SPEAKER_03: I'm like do you hear what just came out of your mouth?
- 45:15SPEAKER_03: Yeah like it doesn't work like that.
- 45:19SPEAKER_03: If I never get asked a tips and tricks question again Yeah I actually because first of all like why is it a trick?
- 45:28SPEAKER_02: First of all there's no trick there's no trick in this the trick is to like actually show up repeatedly over and over and over again even when you feel like it's never gonna work even when you feel like a failure even when you're at the deepest darkest depths of your soul and you feel like everything's falling apart you still have to fucking show up and hold the vision for yourself and not try to look to other people for their opinions or their approval it takes a lot it's a lot and so that's why I get frustrated the question and also it's sort of like someone who tries to build their business based on freebies they found on the internet like it won't work.
- 46:08SPEAKER_03: And you and I are the same and being so results driven.
- 46:11SPEAKER_03: I'm like why would I lead you you come in my direction why am I going to lead you down a path that's just not going to do anything.
- 46:17SPEAKER_02: Exactly because I want you to get the biggest craziest most amazing results ever and I know that you can but you have to be willing to put in the work and the effort and the time and the money and the energy.
- 46:32SPEAKER_03: 1000% that's how I roll that's how I live you know I'm like you think it's uncomfortable to look at it isn't it a lot more uncomfortable to keep living the life you've been living for years and years and years on end and never change it that shit sounds way scarier to me.
- 46:46SPEAKER_02: That's how I feel too I remember I got to the point in my full time job where in my body it felt so uncomfortable to be there.
- 46:56SPEAKER_02: And this was when we were online like I wasn't even there.
- 47:01SPEAKER_02: But you're like I am allergic to you from a distance I know and then it got to the point where I started forgetting about it because it was online that we get a text message like there's a meeting right now like where are you?
- 47:14SPEAKER_02: And I just I would just forget about it.
- 47:16SPEAKER_02: And that the fact that it just completely went out of my consciousness it was like oh this has got to go like it's time you know because it just was excruciating for me and I could feel that I actually had to like change my frequency to actually like be in that vibe.
- 47:36SPEAKER_02: And I just couldn't go back and forth from like having the frequency I needed to have for my business and then going into this lower frequency.
- 47:44SPEAKER_02: It just doesn't work and that that's the other thing I forgot I wanted to talk to you about is the embodiment piece because I feel like you're really good at that.
- 47:52SPEAKER_02: And I think it's a lot of people actually who are missing this piece because we live in our heads.
- 47:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 47:59SPEAKER_02: So like can you talk about that women what is that about yeah like for somebody who might be like oh you know what I feel like that's probably the missing piece for me.
- 48:10SPEAKER_03: Why is it the missing piece for somebody okay so my belief about the embodiment work I believe that our bodies are portals for manifestation.
- 48:19SPEAKER_03: So I know that a lot of kind of mainstream manifestation is just around like our subconscious mind, right?
- 48:26SPEAKER_03: So we've all listened to like the hypnosis, the meditations, etc.
- 48:30SPEAKER_03: And I believe like I love breath work as you know, right?
- 48:34SPEAKER_03: It does help you move like stored trauma out.
- 48:36SPEAKER_03: Although I always say this, you know, obviously I love your breath work and I have you in one of my coaching containers teaching but it's like I don't think they're all created equal.
- 48:45SPEAKER_03: I hate Wim Hof.
- 48:47SPEAKER_03: Oh my God me too.
- 48:48SPEAKER_02: I hate it I hate it I'm like I don't need a spiritual fucking high I need to come back down exactly yeah like that it gives me anxiety actually like that method like actually makes me more anxious and freaked out.
- 49:04SPEAKER_03: Yeah so anyway I like that too right and that's more working with the body obviously this is more your space moving trauma out of the body etc and then there is this piece that I feel like is so important for women where it's so I do believe our body is a manifestation portal and I do believe that like our pleasure and sensuality frequencies to receive with ease have to actually be turned on if you actually want to receive with ease.
- 49:29SPEAKER_03: Like if you think about the female body we are literally biologically built to receive right yeah and all of our programming literally if you look at we're like bring in the pleasure so true true yeah so disconnected from our pleasure and but look at us like we have breasts we have hips we have butts we have like there and I know all of different sizes etc but we literally have a clitoris that has no other function other than pleasure it doesn't do anything exactly so true that's all it's there for that's all it's there for there's nothing else going on and a lot of women have a lot of trauma in their womb and if you basically look inside of a vagina it looks like the same way your throat looks like you put them next to each other the connection is so close for us you know and the sensuality even in partnership like when you're with a man like it always starts with us not like we're pursuing or you need to like wear certain clothes and be sexy or whatever.
- 50:44SPEAKER_03: But so much of the vibration that you feel starts with us.
- 50:50SPEAKER_03: Like we are like the portal for fucking pleasure.
- 50:54SPEAKER_03: Yeah that's so true.
- 50:56SPEAKER_03: And so when we're disconnected from that like think about a woman who's really turned on in that way like how what you call magnetism or whatever like you feel it off of her it radiates off of her.
- 51:10SPEAKER_03: But to me it's like also just being like deeply embodied in your sensuality and your pleasure this has nothing to do with like how many sexual partners you have it's not anything about that.
- 51:22SPEAKER_03: Of course like you know I believe in sex magic and all these things but let's say I don't know you're not in a relationship you don't want to be like doing that.
- 51:30SPEAKER_03: That's not really what it's about even though that is one way that you can arrive there.
- 51:34SPEAKER_03: And obviously there's self-pleasure and all these other avenues but it's like our life force like our sexual energy is our life force energy which is going to tie to your money and your ability to receive especially as women we are not built to be out there hunting chasing that's why we all get tired we've all had burnout and we are programmed to move and you ask me right why is my business grown so quickly like all the things I said and this yeah you know I get so much feedback on you're so magnetic like this that and the other and it's like you have to be in touch with like your own sensuality and when you turn that on or like turning on your shakti energy right money can't fucking stay away from you.
- 52:22SPEAKER_03: Okay so I think of money as masculine energy because how it feels when you have it right like it's stable it's supportive for those of us who have like a feminine core most of our desires so let's say even if you don't date men you prefer a more masculine oriented partner right the desires that we have they all feel like masculine energy because they relax us we feel held we get this feeling of the feminine exhale we don't feel like we have to do anything that's all we're always wanting is to be like I don't have to do anything and I just get to relax or I feel held or we're always looking for those kind of experiences.
- 52:55SPEAKER_03: Of course in our business we should have in our masculine support etc but largely business aside what are you usually looking for yeah you want to feel like everything's taken care of like you can relax like you want to feel safe you know all of those things and that you can just enjoy to kind of like receive and enjoy exactly so to me so I associate money with masculine energy so then when our central energy is so turned on right and our life force energy is so turned on and we can actually feel our womb space and feel our yoni space and there's actually a relationship and a connection like I have the women in feminine magic and money I'm like ask your yoni questions does she want to do something does she not have a partner before he enters you like actually ask you if you even if you know you want to it's just to actually like check in with your body and be like oh yes yeah and cultivate that relationship relationship and you can literally feel that space in your body when you talk if you start paying attention they're so closely tied and we as women we carry basically all of our trauma in our womb.
- 54:08SPEAKER_02: The other thing that's just occurring to me right now too is just the way that we've been programmed to hate our bodies as women oh my gosh it's so horrible.
- 54:18SPEAKER_03: It's so horrible and like obviously that's another program and the way that our power has been hijacked right because it's like that is our power literally we've been taught periods are supposed to be painful or supposed to suffer through them we've received no teachings around a healthy period and how to have one so endometriosis is normalized fibroids are normalized a lot of pain during your period is normalized really having bleeding is normalizing skipping your fucking period is normalized like everything that is dysfunctional is normalized.
- 54:50SPEAKER_03: It's crazy but think about a time where we would like go into red tents and we were celebrated and we're honored being on our bleed.
- 55:00SPEAKER_03: You know one of the most freeing things I did is I stopped using tampons during my period and I had never really crossed my mind before and then I did it and I was so grounded I was like what the fuck like this is so different.
- 55:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah I don't use I use them a little bit but I like in the beginning I don't use them at all at a party or something yeah exactly but my first just like free bleed I was like huh and I felt so grounded and so connected and so to me I'm like how are we going to receive you know I'm very into feminine business business in the feminine way I'm like well if it's gonna be the feminine way you don't want to stress you don't want to grind how do you plan to have that without being connected to like literally your feminine core your body your body wisdom your yoni your womb space your the things that make us eyes is impossible.
- 55:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah it's so important and it's something that I think people don't even think of I remember when I was like in the beginning stages of like starting my business and like going live a lot and stuff like that a healer told me to speak from my vagina and I was just like what the fuck does that mean?
- 56:16SPEAKER_02: And like now yeah and now I get it right like now I understand that deep connection and like the receiving and being in that space but like where would we learn that you know what I mean like we haven't learned anything.
- 56:34SPEAKER_02: I know it's crazy we've learned the opposite like we've learned to disconnect like one of the things I tell a lot of my clients to do especially when they want to call in more money is start writing letters to their physical body because our relationship with our body is so important.
- 56:51SPEAKER_02: I know and that's something that helped me a lot when I started to really make more money is really starting to cultivate that relationship with my body and like really loving my body especially because I went through so much body image stuff and and an eating disorder and all of that stuff you really start to take on this feeling like you're at war with your body and I feel like that is something that really blocks women too in this space of receiving and just growing and being able to open up to more money and more abundance you can't do that if you're at war with your physical body because the energy too it's like a straw that could crack at any moment you know and I'm like you want your internal body to be like wet and warm and yummy and juicy and flowy but then like if your energy around your body is just like so stiff.
- 57:43SPEAKER_03: Yeah and can your life experience is also going to be so stiff and not turned on at all.
- 57:49SPEAKER_03: Exactly and it's because we've been shamed for taking up fucking space.
- 57:53SPEAKER_02: Yeah and then think about too how like so many women now have problems like having kids or just all those problems you were saying like with their period or fibroids or whatever.
- 58:04SPEAKER_02: Like it's all because we've been shamed around all of this stuff.
- 58:08SPEAKER_02: And this is like a huge key for everybody right now in the awakening process and actually starting to live in this completely different way.
- 58:18SPEAKER_03: So I think that's I mean women feel shame I feel that women literally feel shame for even having like a body yeah it's true I'm serious like how many women do you walk down the street you know if you kind of like accidentally bum into someone or whatever and everyone's like sorry it's like sorry for existing yeah oh my God I know it's like stop saying sorry I really try not to say sorry about anything and I used to feel this way where you're like what am I even self-conscious about because I walked in a room and I'm taking up space.
- 58:51SPEAKER_02: Yeah I know like what are you apologizing for?
- 58:54SPEAKER_03: I mean I even feel a lot of you know the disordered eating and the body image issues I really feel like a lot of the shame is literally rooted in in just existing yeah totally because we're made to feel like yeah it is because we're made to feel like we're always doing something wrong whether it's all of the different programming that we have is always around like you're doing this wrong this is why you need to be afraid this is what you need to change like it's all like about how we're wrong and why we need to be in fear and why we need to have anxiety.
- 59:30SPEAKER_02: So no wonder we close down and we've been trained to be so disconnected from our bodies that we think that our body is this separate entity that's just going to do all these random things that don't make sense when really it's like all connected and it's all a reflection of your consciousness.
- 59:47SPEAKER_02: So 100% it's really like the key in all of this you know when you want to go down this path of starting a business if that's what you want to do you have to look at all of this stuff.
- 59:59SPEAKER_03: Well and this is why I say it's multidimensional right and there's different ways we get to you know some parts of your trauma may be addressed through the embodiment work or you may have addressed the trauma another way and then you get to embodiment and find your liberation like or you get an energetic activation here.
- 1:00:14SPEAKER_03: Like when I say it's multidimensional I really mean it I've done everything under the sun and then you find the things that really vibe with you and continue to but I do not understand how you can be a woman and I can read it even women who are successful who are not I don't just mean like oh you work out every day.
- 1:00:33SPEAKER_03: You know what I like I'm like cultivating that it's a very different energy like this allowing the cultivation of the central energy and pleasure within your body like that's truly what it is I can see when it's not there and it just always looks so painful and so stressful to me.
- 1:00:53SPEAKER_03: Even if someone is successful I'm like why would I choose to live that way I would so much rather be in touch with myself and just be able to have that energy of like sinking into yourself, you know?
- 1:01:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah that's so important and I feel like it's what's missing for so many of us because we've been trained to be disconnected from ourselves and disconnected from our bodies.
- 1:01:16SPEAKER_02: This is like the central piece of all of this I think so I'm really glad that we brought this up and I um I feel like we could talk forever but um I want to I want to be respectful of your time so I definitely think I'm gonna have to have you back for sure because I feel like we have so much more to talk about.
- 1:01:35SPEAKER_02: So just for the last question that I want to ask you is what do you think is like the one thing that's like non-negotiable when it comes to reclaiming all of these pieces of yourself and fully claiming your consciousness it's such an interesting question because for the immediate answer for me is like it's claiming your financial sovereignty because in actually doing that powerfully we're not reliant on a job we don't desire to be in we're not reliant on relationship just for money.
- 1:02:09SPEAKER_03: We are not doing anything conditionally for our financial power one money is power in this world you know it is right and like we want to be able to opt out of certain paradigms which you get to do when you can pay to get out of them right and it's just true and like when you've claimed it fully in a sovereign way there's no attachments there's no strings yeah and the level of personal development that it takes to land there like all everything we've been talking about tonight that it's clean on all fronts it's clean that is like you've become the woman that you wanted to be in doing that.
- 1:02:54SPEAKER_03: Totally I we think we want the money and we do want the money but it's like everything that goes into us creating the money that's is like what you're actually living for you just like think it's about money.
- 1:03:06SPEAKER_03: You know not like about money like oh I just want money but like we think we just want the tangible thing.
- 1:03:11SPEAKER_03: When you want to do it in the way of claiming your consciousness in the way of disconnecting from the matrix in the way of being like I'm opting out of the system thank you goodbye you have to clean up your street.
- 1:03:21SPEAKER_02: Oh my God totally you have to face all of those parts of yourself that is connected to that programming in order to fully get out of it.
- 1:03:30SPEAKER_03: And so for me claiming just continuing to claim massive levels of deeper and deeper financial sovereignty it's interesting.
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_03: It sounds crazy but like it's not just the freedom it gives in the 3D but it's like that's brings up all the things that get me there but I'll bring up all those things and clearing them is also what expands my whole life.
- 1:03:51SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:03:51SPEAKER_02: And when you have resources you can choose how you want to use them and I know I was laughing.
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_03: People are like money doesn't solve all your problems I was like yes it does because if you can literally outpay for anything like it can solve an emotional problem because you can go hire the person to help you solve the problem.
- 1:04:11SPEAKER_02: Exactly and you can put it towards like if something in the world that is really upsetting to you you can create a thing to fix it if you have a lot of money you know whatever it is like you can create it if you have the resources to create it.
- 1:04:26SPEAKER_02: So like people put all of these negative stories around money but really it's just resources it's energy it's expansion it's expansion and it's really being open to all of the bounty that the universe has to offer so yeah I love that there's nothing wrong with it.
- 1:04:43SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
- 1:04:44SPEAKER_02: And can you share with us tell everyone where to find you because I know they'll be wanting to know and let us know what you have going on.
- 1:04:53SPEAKER_03: Sure.
- 1:04:53SPEAKER_03: So obviously there's my website jocelnkellery.com I have a podcast as well elise is on a few episodes Queen Flow the podcast depending on when this comes out so if it's in November the cohort which is my immersion for women scaling to sustainable five figure months and feminine flow is going to be open for enrollment.
- 1:05:15SPEAKER_02: If it's December I don't know well it's probably gonna be the end of November I think and if if it's the cohort I definitely recommend everyone doing it because I did it and it's totally the thing to do if you're wanting to learn how to scale your business.
- 1:05:33SPEAKER_03: So yeah I'm also really vibing with Telegram I started Telegram channel oh yeah I love it I love that you're doing that so it's so fun I'll send you my links but that's what's going on in my world obviously if anyone has any questions or they're trying to figure out which program is right for them for my site just DM me and we can get you sorted.
- 1:05:55SPEAKER_03: And thank you so much Elise I feel like we could have like 10 episodes.
- 1:05:59SPEAKER_03: Yeah we're definitely gonna have another one.
- 1:06:02SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
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