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The Late Debate | 6 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 2: with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand. Well, Christmas has been
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  Speaker 2: saved at one Melbourne council that shunned it for the
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  Speaker 2: past two years.
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  Speaker 1: Do we finally have a win against the woke? Let's hope.
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  Speaker 2: So in the papers we'll get into the extraordinary amount
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  Speaker 2: of money the Queensland Miles government is spending on infrastructure
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  Speaker 2: to try and win your vote. You will be astonished.
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  Speaker 2: This amount of money could send you to the moon,
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  Speaker 2: would you believe it? And apparently transgender people are operating
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  Speaker 2: on a different form of time. We'll get into that
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  Speaker 2: a little bit later. But first, the fertility rate, which
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  Speaker 2: we talked about earlier in the week in Australia is
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  Speaker 2: currently one point six children per women, which means that
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  Speaker 2: we are below the replacement rate, which is two point
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  Speaker 2: one children per women. Well, it's even worse in Japan,
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  Speaker 2: where they have this week recorded the lower ever fertility rate,
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  Speaker 2: which is one point three children per women. So the
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  Speaker 2: Tokyo City Council has come up with a novel idea.
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  Speaker 2: They are starting a dating app to try and encourage
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  Speaker 2: people in Japan too well hook up and have children.
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  Speaker 2: If you have a look at the numbers, it is
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  Speaker 2: quite stark.
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  Speaker 1: In Japan right now.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at marriages, for instance, between twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: two and twenty twenty three, you had five hundred and
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  Speaker 2: nineteen thousand marriages in twenty twenty two. That was down
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  Speaker 2: to four hundred and eighty nine thousand in twenty twenty three. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: deaths were up for one million, five hundred eighty two
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  Speaker 2: thousand to one million, five hundred and ninety and berths
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  Speaker 2: were down from seven hundred and ninety nine thousand to
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty eight. Meanwhile, divorces were also up
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  Speaker 2: from one hundred and eighty three thousand to one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and eighty seven. So you have a very clear problem here.
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  Speaker 2: It's much the same as Australia. If you want the
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  Speaker 2: population to keep growing, and that of course is how
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  Speaker 2: you keep the economy growing, you need to import people.
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  Speaker 2: So they've said, well, bugger that, we're just going to
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  Speaker 2: get people to get married.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know whether I would particularly want to use
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  Speaker 2: a government issued dating app. I mean, I don't really
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  Speaker 2: want the government involved in my dating life to be
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  Speaker 2: perfectly honest, and there are rumors that are yet to
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  Speaker 2: be confirmed, but apparently in Japan, when you go on
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  Speaker 2: a dating app, it's quite customary to tell them what
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  Speaker 2: your income is, and there are rumors that you'll have
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  Speaker 2: to sign a document to say that you are legally single,
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  Speaker 2: and you'll even have to provide your tax return to prove.
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  Speaker 1: What your income is.
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  Speaker 2: But what an interesting idea is that the local council
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  Speaker 2: is so worried about the fact that people are not
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  Speaker 2: getting married and having kids that they are starting their
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  Speaker 2: own dating app that can we do it here?
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  Speaker 3: They're taking this seriously as they should. In fact, when
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  Speaker 3: you look at the different policies that different countries have
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  Speaker 3: to promote marriage, to promote families, Australia it just seems
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  Speaker 3: to be nowhere. We can see similar happening in our
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  Speaker 3: own demographics. It's been happening for a very long time
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  Speaker 3: and we've simply done nothing.
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  Speaker 4: If you look at Hungary, those guys you get a.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty five percent reduction in your income tax ladies for
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  Speaker 3: every single child you have. Therefore, if you have four children,
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  Speaker 3: no income tax for the rest of your life. Finland
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  Speaker 3: and Sweden you get an allowance, a monthly allowance for
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  Speaker 3: every single child you have until that child turns sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: Then the allowance gets turned off. Singapore have similar to
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  Speaker 3: our baby bonus, eleven thousand dollars for each kid you have,
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  Speaker 3: unless it's the third child, then it goes.
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  Speaker 4: Up and it's thirteen thousand.
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  Speaker 2: They needed in Singapore because they've actually got a lower
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  Speaker 2: fertility rate than Japan.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, but at least these governments are just like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: how can we encourage and promote marriage, have kids, families?
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  Speaker 4: And they're putting in place policies.
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  Speaker 3: Even really creative ones like this. Obviously it's not a policy,
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  Speaker 3: but they're doing what they can to facilitate that. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm constantly ripping my hair out that Australia just seems
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  Speaker 3: to be watching it happen year.
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  Speaker 4: In year out, decade in decade out.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 3: It was back in two thousand that at that time
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  Speaker 3: it was the lowest fertility rate on record for Australia ever,
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  Speaker 3: at one point seven, and the Howard government was like, right,
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  Speaker 3: baby bonus.
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  Speaker 4: The very next year they.
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  Speaker 3: Got those stats and they were like, we've got to
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  Speaker 3: do something. Our governments, successive governments have simply just gone,
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  Speaker 3: oh well, we'll import that's it. We'll just rely on immigration.
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  Speaker 3: That is no way to keep a country up and running.
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  Speaker 1: You I love it.
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  Speaker 6: Obsessed with this story. I just cannot get enough of it.
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  Speaker 6: I walked into as you know, I'm a stickler for
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  Speaker 6: preparation before a show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've seen you doing.
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  Speaker 6: And so the one thing I brought into the budget lockup,
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  Speaker 6: I brought nothing else in except for an article I
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  Speaker 6: found on the Wall Street Journal through several weeks ago
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  Speaker 6: that was this amazing feature about this whole deep dive
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  Speaker 6: into the declining fertility rates all over the world. So
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  Speaker 6: it's not just a japan thing like you said, It's
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  Speaker 6: not just an Australia think. It's happening everywhere across the
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  Speaker 6: entire Western world and developing countries too. And I thought,
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  Speaker 6: this is it. I'm going to thread the needle. I've
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  Speaker 6: just nailed it. I know what is going to put
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  Speaker 6: in the But there's going to be a baby bonus.
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  Speaker 6: I'm convinced, and I've got it right in my hand.
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  Speaker 6: All I need, anyway, needs to say there was no
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  Speaker 6: baby boner, absolutely nothing to write about, but it is true.
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  Speaker 6: We need to do something you cannot run an economy,
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  Speaker 6: and you cannot more importantly, pay for old people. We've
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  Speaker 6: got aging population and China's about to find this out
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  Speaker 6: in a really big way as well.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what they dropped the exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: Some of their provinces also have I would have thought
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  Speaker 3: that China would be the last country to be like,
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  Speaker 3: we're worried about I'm like, you had the one child
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  Speaker 3: policy for ages, and now you're worried about your fertility rate.
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  Speaker 3: But some of their provinces they also have either baby
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  Speaker 3: bonus type type policies up and running or similar.
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  Speaker 4: So I was shocked to know that's right.
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  Speaker 6: And it's again, it's a it's a it's a product
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  Speaker 6: of people applying these policies and not actually thinking them through,
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  Speaker 6: not actually thinking what the long I mean. Obviously communist
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  Speaker 6: China doesn't understand economics in the first place, but not
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  Speaker 6: actually thinking about what this will happen. And this is
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  Speaker 6: why I love what the Japanese are doing. I'm not
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  Speaker 6: entirely sure if it's going to work.
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  Speaker 7: You will sit the directive, you will have most honorable
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  Speaker 7: and economically viable marriage for greatness of Japan, or a
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  Speaker 7: couple so you know whether or not that will get
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  Speaker 7: the juices flowing.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you want to hook up because the mayor said
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  Speaker 2: we should do it, I mean light of all time.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I know you think I'm probably a seven and
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  Speaker 6: you're probably a nine. To look at the mayor said.
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  Speaker 1: We have.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I can think of worse pick up life.
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  Speaker 5: But you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 6: And Peter Costello did come up with the baby blonness
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  Speaker 6: who famously said have one from one for data and
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  Speaker 6: one for the country.
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  Speaker 5: Look at him now, isn't he doing well?
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  Speaker 1: He's not going to I can't do that a little
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  Speaker 1: later in the show, but I am.
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  Speaker 5: Look.
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  Speaker 2: The one thing that does slightly worry me about this
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  Speaker 2: is that it's like a dating app set up by
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  Speaker 2: the state. Sure, and it's like, okay, it's one thing
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  Speaker 2: to have, you know, Tinder and Bumble and all these things.
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  Speaker 2: Now you've got government setting up dating apps I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Data.
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  Speaker 3: I think this would appeal to some though, and potentially
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  Speaker 3: particularly of the Japanese persuasion, because a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: get gas.
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  Speaker 4: Lit on these apps.
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  Speaker 3: They meet real roagues, people turn out to be nothing
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  Speaker 3: like what they've claimed to be, and there's a long
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  Speaker 3: and painful process while you're seeing this person define that.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, Joe, what are you doing? Just get off
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  Speaker 4: the apps? But doing it this way.
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  Speaker 3: If you're on a government app, if people have had
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  Speaker 3: to prove how much they're earning, et cetera, and so on,
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  Speaker 3: people would be like, well, actually, the profiles I'm flicking
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  Speaker 3: through have been given the green light by the government.
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  Speaker 3: They've been vetted by the government. This person is who, they.
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  Speaker 4: Say, that would be the I'm the last.
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  Speaker 3: Person to be like, yeah, give your in vote to
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  Speaker 3: the government. But in this respect, I think people in
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  Speaker 3: terms of a dating app could actually find peace of
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  Speaker 3: mind with regard to that.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just say I've just received a text from
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  Speaker 2: someone asking if they can see my text?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no strange.
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  Speaker 4: Way to ask him out.
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  Speaker 3: But I do know whose accountant I can put you
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  Speaker 3: in touch, So maybe hit me up if he's not
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  Speaker 3: forthcoming with the reply.
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  Speaker 5: Only fans account.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, career anyway, please know.
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  Speaker 3: So two New York now where the NYPD is saying
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  Speaker 3: we're going to take Trump's gun license off m because
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  Speaker 3: he's creatively renamed a few debits in his account while
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  Speaker 3: funneling hush money money. We've all yeah, well, if you're Joe,
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  Speaker 3: you've all done it.
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  Speaker 4: So now what this guy's.
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  Speaker 3: Too dangerous with a concealed weapon. His gun license was
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  Speaker 3: suspended back in April of last year when these proceedings
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  Speaker 3: came underway. But again, I just think this is part
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  Speaker 3: of the demonization of Trump that people are now reading
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  Speaker 3: this going, oh, he's so unsafe he can't even carry
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  Speaker 3: a concealed weapon anymore. Let any connection between what he's
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  Speaker 3: been y convicted.
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  Speaker 6: With anything that the trial and conviction has shined that
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  Speaker 6: Donald Trump, for all his faults, is incredibly good at
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  Speaker 6: concealing themes.
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  Speaker 5: Why not get a concealed weapon's life?
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  Speaker 2: Well, maybe maybe the problem, Maybe maybe the problem was
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  Speaker 2: that when he met Stormy Daniels, Stormy Daniels said to him,
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  Speaker 2: is that a gun in your pocket?
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  Speaker 1: Or are you just happy to see me?
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  Speaker 2: But you see, but you see that he does have
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  Speaker 2: a leg up in more ways than mine in this case.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously he has the Secret Service, right, so of all
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  Speaker 2: the people in the world who needs a concealed carry,
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  Speaker 2: he's probably not one of them, because at all comes
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  Speaker 2: he does have.
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  Speaker 3: Fascinated presidents also had Secret Service, and we.
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  Speaker 4: All know how I don't know your joke.
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  Speaker 6: I know where to be firing. Where would he be firing?
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  Speaker 6: Live that the book, that's the question.
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  Speaker 5: You know where to look.
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  Speaker 2: But it is ridiculous though, I mean seriously, does anyone
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  Speaker 2: seriously believe it? And again it's just a free kick
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  Speaker 2: for Trump because it takes it to an extreme that
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  Speaker 2: is so ridiculous. There's no one walking around. And I
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  Speaker 2: know Trump once said that he could shoot someone in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the street and he wouldn't lose any votes,
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  Speaker 2: and at the time it was probably true.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was January twenty sixteen that he said that.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, But does anyone seriously believe that Trump carrying a
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  Speaker 2: concealed weapon is a danger to anybody. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: he was convicted of murder. He hasn't been convicted of rape.
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  Speaker 2: He hasn't been convicted of any other violent crime. He
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been convicted of robbery. All he's been convicted of
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  Speaker 2: some is some trumped up pardon the pun chargers that
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  Speaker 2: turned a misdemeanor into a felony on the basis that
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  Speaker 2: it supposedly influenced the election, which it didn't. And now
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  Speaker 2: he can't have a gun because it's it's not a
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  Speaker 2: danger to anyone. And it's like all the stuff you've
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  Speaker 2: been talking about, a wager. It just makes people look
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  Speaker 2: at it and go like, for heaven's sake, but how
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  Speaker 2: hard can you go on this phone?
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  Speaker 6: But at least now he's got something in common with
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  Speaker 6: Hunter Biden. Indeed, to go for a fan to together
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  Speaker 6: died Cocar, that's.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and maybe a little bite to eat of KFC,
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  Speaker 2: which we know that President Trump enjoys. One thing you're
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  Speaker 2: not allowed to enjoy anymore, of course, his fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 2: You can't put petrol in your car and listen to
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  Speaker 2: it go room from that's bad. Gotta drive and eva instead.
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  Speaker 2: You can't even have a gas cooker at home, You've
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  Speaker 2: got to use electric.
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  Speaker 1: We know what they're trying.
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  Speaker 5: To do to us.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the Secretary General of the UN was giving a
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  Speaker 2: speech last night and he's gone one step further.
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  Speaker 1: He has come up with the greatest idea in.
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  Speaker 2: The world to stop the proliferation of fossil fuels, to
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  Speaker 2: stop you putting fuel in your car, to stop you
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  Speaker 2: burning coal, to turn the lights on, to stop you
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  Speaker 2: using your gas stovetop. Apparently, if we take away advertisements,
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  Speaker 2: the world will be fine, and.
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  Speaker 8: I adge news media and tech companies to stop taking
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  Speaker 8: fossil fuel advertising. We must all deal also with the
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  Speaker 8: demand side. All of us can make a difference by
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  Speaker 8: embracing clean technologies, facing down fossil fuels, you know, our
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  Speaker 8: own lives, and using our power to citizens to push
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  Speaker 8: for systemic change.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's really gonna fix things.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I don't know if Antonio Guti's is really across
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  Speaker 2: how fossil fuels work. But you know, when I'm driving
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  Speaker 2: into the studio and I look down and it says
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  Speaker 2: in the car that I've got sixty kilometers left to
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  Speaker 2: go on the fuel tank, I usually just pull into
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  Speaker 2: a servo that has reasonably cheap fuel and fill it up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not particularly influenced by advertisements or when I turn
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  Speaker 2: on the lights when I get home, I don't stop.
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  Speaker 2: First thing, Did I see a cad Tonight's encouraging me
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  Speaker 2: to turn No, you have to consume this stuff to
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  Speaker 2: begin with. What he really wants to happen is to
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  Speaker 2: punish fossil fuel companies by saying we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: take your ads again. On that metric, he falls over
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  Speaker 2: because if every media company, every billboard company, and every
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  Speaker 2: sporting club in the world said we're not going to
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  Speaker 2: take your ads, We're not going to take your sponsorship.
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  Speaker 2: All it would meet is that the fossil fuel companies
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  Speaker 2: would actually have more money in the bank because they
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  Speaker 2: haven't been spending it on advertisements, and that's money that
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  Speaker 2: they can then invest in, I don't know, drilling for
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  Speaker 2: oil or opening up coal mines. Is that what you
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: want Antonio Gutari's you actually want more money in the
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  Speaker 2: hands of the fossil fuel companies. How does he think
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  Speaker 2: any of this is actually going to work.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I really don't understand it because the only I mean,
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  Speaker 6: the only types of advertising I can think of is
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  Speaker 6: when you have things like the Mineral's council saying how
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: good mining is for his society. Right, he's not really
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: he's not really saying that because he's saying it's like
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  Speaker 6: tobacco advertising. So it's like, you know, I could really
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  Speaker 6: use a whatever it is. You know, I'm going to
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  Speaker 6: ride my horse and smoke a Marlboro and then suddenly
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  Speaker 6: I'll get a girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: They should try that in Tokyo.
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  Speaker 3: It probably would though if you were smoking while riding
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  Speaker 3: a horse.
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  Speaker 6: I've got to say, yeah, well I used to I
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  Speaker 6: used to. Well I never used to ride the horse,
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  Speaker 6: but the other things used to work pretty well. But again,
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  Speaker 6: I just don't understand, like people are going to like,
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  Speaker 6: is there an ad out there saying have you used
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: up all your fossil fueled electricity today? Why not go
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  Speaker 6: home and turn the lights on? Like, I just don't like.
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  Speaker 6: It just makes no sense to me. And then you
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  Speaker 6: have electricity providers. Obviously they will advertise with each other,
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  Speaker 6: and they will often compete and ring up and has
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  Speaker 6: to and get you to change providers. Now they usually
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  Speaker 6: will have a mix of renewable and coal fired power.
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  Speaker 6: How much are they allowed to advertise? Are they just
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  Speaker 6: allowed to have little half sized advertisements or does it
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  Speaker 6: rely on like where the grid's at, So when the
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  Speaker 6: sun shining and the wind's blowing and more renewables are
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  Speaker 6: going into the grid, their advertisements are allowed to become bigger.
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  Speaker 6: And then when the sun goes down and stuff the
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  Speaker 6: advertised has to shrink. It's just this sort of mindless
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  Speaker 6: clap track. It doesn't seem to be founded in anything.
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  Speaker 3: That's what he's known for, right, this guy's middle name
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  Speaker 3: is hysteria. I mean, in this speech he called these
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  Speaker 3: companies the godfather I'm a chaos who had deceived the
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: public for debt aids and he's now exposing them. Remember
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  Speaker 3: this from last year when he told us that the
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  Speaker 3: age of global boiling had arrived.
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  Speaker 9: Climate change is here, it is terrifying, and it is
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  Speaker 9: just the beginning. The era of global warming has ended,
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  Speaker 9: the idea, the heater of global boiling has arrived, and still.
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  Speaker 3: Not a word of condemnation to either China or India,
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  Speaker 3: your biggest emitters made. So how about you just talk
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  Speaker 3: to the guilty parties instead of Australia crucifying our prosperity
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  Speaker 3: day in, day out, to chip away at our measly
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  Speaker 3: one point three percent of global emissions.
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  Speaker 4: It's just embarrassing.
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  Speaker 6: In his defense, though, the Godfathers of climate chaos is
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  Speaker 6: an awesome name for a rock and roll back.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say that I reconnect.
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  Speaker 6: If sang that song with a guitar, weior smoking a marlb,
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  Speaker 6: if we going to be lining up.
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  Speaker 3: If we start a scar at the point of everything
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  Speaker 3: for you, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, but if we start a sky new
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  Speaker 2: Staff band, and Liz can do the singing because she
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: can sing.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not that kind of singing.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Well, you can give it again.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I'm utterly useless of everything. But let's call it the
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Godfather's a climate chaos. But I remember a few years
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: ago and when I was covering councils, there was a
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: council in Adelaide, Mitcham Council, and one of the councilors
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: put up emotion which was essentially along these lines where
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: she wanted any sort of advertisement or sponsorship to do
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: with fossil fuels, so like a local service station or
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: something to be banned from sporting grounds, so like the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: local footy club wouldn't be able to have a sign
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: up on the fence at the footy oval, saying you know, Joe.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Blog Servo is a sponsor of this club.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And what that essentially means is that you want to
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: do local outfits like football clubs out of the opportunity
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: to create. So we say we're going to do great
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: things for the world by getting rid of advertisements for
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: fossil fuels. But the reality is is that you're depriving
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: you know, small media outfits or small local clubs or
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: whatever from the opportunity to make a little bit of
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: money that does good for the community because they have
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: to have something to do with coal or Wales.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: But some of this is working right because there was
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: only a few weeks ago that we were talking about
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: how the Walkley Awards, yes, had kicked out one of
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: their platinum sponsors Ampole, for being Ampole.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: And we're no founder of the Walkley.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: You're like, no, no, we should not be associated. And yes,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: like you said at the time, Caleb.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: One of their founders was an Ampole.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: Mister Walkley founded Ampole fossil Field Walkley, we used to
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: call them, and again it is it is outraged. That's
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: why I preferred associated with the Kennedy Awards these days.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: It's much more fun. Chris named after Chris Kenny.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: You know, Let's Kennedy, the late great Les Kennedy who
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: wrote a lot of fantastic stories but actually told more
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: fantastic stories to you at the pub the night before
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: they were due to run, which they often didn't. But again,
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: that's the kind of journal I'd rather hang out with
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: rather than the holy than now Walkley humorless cartoonists. But
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: one announcement I wanted to bring to your attention is
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: one that you would not otherwise hear about thanks to
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: the impending ruling by the UN Secretary General, and that
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: is Victoria has approved its first gas project.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: In a decade.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: This is amazing, Yes, rejoice, oh nine News, fantastic outlet.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: This is the first gas project that Victoria. And we'll
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: get into exactly how amazingly funny this is not just
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: because it's nine News talking about things blowing up.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: But let's have a listen to what the new premieres into.
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: Allen had to say, that's the first production license application
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: that the government has received since twenty and fourteen, so
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: that itself speaks to the industry understanding that the resource
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: that was once there in terms of the gas resource,
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: is not there into the future.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Okay, let's just try to channel just industry years ago.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Pack that for me.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: She has announced the new gas project, the first in
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: ten years, ever so reluctantly, because the fact that it's
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: the first application from the private sector in ten years
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: means that the government was right not to have any
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: new gas project until now, but also right to approve
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: this gas project now, even though let me just check
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: my notes, all gas is now banned in new Victorian
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: residential dwellings under this same government. So they are actually
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: opening up a gas field to mind gas pump at
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: god knows where, I don't know. Made it's on a
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: new South Wales will take it, thank you very much,
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: and not actually allowing their own citizens have brought new
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: homes to use it. Which this is literally cooked, although
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: of course not cooked with gas, because that's bad.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Which is why she was very quick to assure Victorians
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: of this is going to make up as such a
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: measily amount of the power generation in our state anyway,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: don't even worry about it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: By twenty thirty five, gas will be part of that
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: final five percent. That final five percent, but let's be clear,
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: ninety five percent of Victoria's energy will come from renewable
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: energy sources.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: That's ten years away.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Does anyone honestly think that they're going to get this
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: gas project off the ground and then in ten years
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: it's going to be contriverally, I think she already knows
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: this ninety five percent renewable is simply not going to
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: be happening in ten years. Everyone, we are we need
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: this gas project desperately.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: And will be relying on it. Far heavily than that in.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: A mere protect what she's totally ignored.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: And by the way, did you notice that she did
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that press in front of the wind turbines behind, just
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to drive the drive the point home that you know,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: we're not really on board with the gas. But she
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: decides that the first application we've had in ten years, therefore,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you know, what the hell have I got to do
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: with it? The reason is the first application in ten
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: years is that the Victorian state government basically drove every
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: gas project they could out of the state for years
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: and years and years until twenty twenty, any sort of
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: drilling for oil on land was banned and the result
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: of that was that all the gas companies, well, we're
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: not going to do anything in.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: Victor on a costum gas project in both Victoria and
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: New South Wales under sadly to say, there are faral
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: government in New South Wales and the Andrews government and
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: so yes. Strangely, when they banned gas exploration, that seemed
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: to have a dampening effect applications for a license for
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: gas exploration.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: And this is this is an offshore project, it should
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: be noted. But the effect of banning the onshore projects.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Was that people just didn't offshot.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: That's the beautiful offway bas I used to go on
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: holidays when I was a kid near a Polo Bay,
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: a lovely part of Christine Wilderness. And now it's going
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: to be scarred forever by the scourge of gas, which
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: of course is evil, so bad in Victoria that they've
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: actually decided to ban it, but is apparently okay to
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: green light when you finally get an application after telling
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: all other applicants to go away, but one sort of
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: slips through und your doors say oh this got through.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: Oh well I better approve it. And again this is
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: what I don't understand, Like make up your mind. Is
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: gas bad or not? If it's so bad you have
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: to ban it, how is it not so bad that
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: you can.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Have just a little bit.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: It's like, oh, you know, like you know, sure, you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: I punched children, but not as much as I used to.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: It was it was, it was, it was only one goat.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: But you've got you've got the.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Federal government now saying that that gas is an important
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: part of the mix.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Going forward a.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Hero another great library.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: You've got everyone saying that gas is an important part
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: of the mixed going forward for the Victorian government that,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: like you said, you reluctantly allowed this one to happen
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: because the application came.
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: I'm very fond of applications. I'm very fond of saying.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: The only thing now that's gasolt in Victoria is the population.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Quite right, And you've got to wonder sometimes whether the
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: government down there are certain members of it have been
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: huffing gas to come up with some of the things
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: that that they come forward with to some better news
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: out of Victoria. Now Christmas has been saved in scenes
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: reminiscent of the Grinch. The city of Stonnington. Now, they
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: over the last couple of years have been not promoting Christmas.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: But you know, you know, councils put up things on
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: their bins and signs in the street and whatever, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: normally they say Merry Christmas or some variation of that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: They've had make Mary for the last couple of years.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: What the hell make Mery is meant to mean? I
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: don't even know, Drant.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: We yeah, well, we can do that anytime of the year.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: But the council, in response to overwhelming public pressure, has
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: now voted that this year it will change back to
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Mery Christmas. According to a statement that they put out
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: this week after their latest council meeting, the City of
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Stonnington will use Merry Christmas wording across its twenty twenty
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: four fistive season events, activities and decorations. The mean said,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: We've responded to community and business feedback to make sure
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: that our twenty twenty four Christmas promotions and activities in
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Stollington clearly include the word Christmas in them. Most of
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the feedback received simply requested a switch back to Merry Christmas,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: and that's what we've done. The Christmas wreath at Moulven
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Town Hall is a wonderful symbol of our community doing
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: the festive season at such an important civic building. We
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: absolutely embrace diversity in our city. Of course, they had
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to get that bit in there, didn't they. This one
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: was a pretty straightforward decision for counsel, and I thank
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: everyone who took the time to share their views with us.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Which leads me to the question, if you've now recognized
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: that it's okay to say Merry Christmas, even when at
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the same time you're growing how virtuous you are in
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: your support of diversity, why did.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: You get rid of Christmas in the first place.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Did you realize perhaps that literally no one except the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: most stark, raving, mad people have a problem with Christmas.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: No one is offended by Christmas except for in the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: city lefties who feel this like they have to be
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: offended on behalf of other people who aren't actually offended.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: And that works when those inner city lefties are on
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: the council. I mean, there's no way these councils take
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: these positions because they've run a pole in the community.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: They just make these captain because calls.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Then they get the feeding.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: And seriously, this is why it's so important when your
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: council does this ridiculous stuff, get in touch with them,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: because people.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Power still works. These guys want to be re elected.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: And if they hear from enough of you I used
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: to be a city councilor myself, if they hear from
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: enough of you, they will topple as they should.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: That's what they're paid to do. Represent you.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: So great when in Stonnington, maybe see much more of it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: I just find it so delightfully amazing that a mayor,
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: a politician, a public figure actually needs community and business
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: feedback to discover that canceling Christmas is unpopular. I don't
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: want to I don't want to introduce any spoilers. But
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: there was a little something called the English Civil War
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: about four four hundred years ago, and Oliver Cromwell and
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: his people, you know, they toyed with.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: The idea of canceling Christmas. Did it work out well?
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: It's just absolute stagger and also for the love of
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: God saying how diverse the community is, right Stonnington is
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: you want to talk about Christmas, it's a white Christmas.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: It is the most waspy blanc mange Rich Leafy. This
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: is the home of the too rac tractor. You know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: this is more than I used to leave. You know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: a few clicks down the road from Maulvin and Daniel.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: That's diverse. We've got the knife crime to prove it's
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: a it's a great you know, I grew up there.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: That's a truly diverse place. That is the place where
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: you do have this full mix of cultures. And as
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: you say, when you have that many different cultures all
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: living together, they know, you've got to respect other people's beliefs.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: You've got to embrace other people's beliefs. Otherwise it's just
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: permanent civil war. So it's only these outrageously affluent councils.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: And again no.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: Surprises that these are the sort of places that have
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: the strongest teal and green presences, as these ones that
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: wouldn't know Ramadan from a Ramalama dingdo and thinking, ohbably,
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: we better be diverse, we better be diverse, because they
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: frankly don't have any real problems to worry about, and
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: they make these stupid ass decisions and then say, oh,
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: we've listened and we've decided. You know, and again I'll
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: use one of my very comparable analogies. We've listened to
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: the community feedback, we've conducted the focus groups, and we're
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: going to stop killing babies.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: What a relief, baby Jesus.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Speaking of wins, there's another one happening in Saint Kilda
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: with a statue of Captain Cook about to be reinstated,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: you know, one of the many that have been torn down.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Someone's actually decided to put one back up.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: What a win, Thank you, Saint Kilda.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: In case you've forgotten, here's some footage of one of
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: those being taken down.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Black magic. Either you do you don't have you black
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: gift to talking the whole package magic made plans.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: You would now witnessinger power, your billion, me your bill.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: This bronze statue was one hundred and ten years old
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: and it's going back up, thank goodness. The reason why
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: why aren't we seeing all of these put back up
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: other than, like we just said, Stonnington Council two point zero,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: the lefties on these councils either saying oh it's for
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: the protection of the statue. If we put it back up,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: they'll just tear it back down. Great way to hand
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: them a win. If you reward the aggressors, you just
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: get more aggression.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: It's not hard.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: Pretty tough, though, did you say the way they would
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: bashing up that lifeless statue?
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Know, Peter Costellos? Are they?
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: But it's interesting because there's another one that was taken
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: down in Melbourne City Council and we're what like five
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: six months on from this now and Melbourne City Council
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: still has not decided whether or not this thing comes
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: back up. In fact, the council, through a spokesman, said
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: to The Herald's son today that they're still assessing the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: damage with experts.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, the thing got knocked down around Australia day.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Are you telling me that you're still assessing the damage
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: and supposedly trying to work out whether they can reinforce
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the statue to put it back up if the statue
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: has not gone back up. And there was another one
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: that got knocked down in Edinburgh Gardens next to Captain
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Cook's cottage, which falls under the Yarra Council, which is
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I mean you think Stonnington's bad Yarra is literally run
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: by the Greens. If the statue hasn't gone back up
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: by now and they're assessing the damage, I think we
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: could be almost certain Joe that the statue ain't going
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to go back up. They're dragging their heels hoping no
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: one will notice that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: And again, this is a problem, and I know we've
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: talked about it before, but this is the problem when
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: you just have these rogue vandals who just.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Tear down this.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: Of course, you wouldn't put up a statue of Captain
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: Cook these days, and I think that's perfectly legitimate. You
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: put up stuff that you know people haven't seen before,
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: or stuff that reflects another side to our history, indigenous memorials,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: whatever you want. That's all great, and the problem is
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: you wouldn't put that statue up now, and so instead
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: of just having that statue there, that's a reminder of
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: another time and reflects the values of another time, and
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: consider alongside whatever new thing you want to put up,
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: you're then in a position of having to kind.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Of resurrect that statue, which then.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Sounds like you're making a value statement about something that
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: happened two and a half centuries ago, which then makes
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: it look weird.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: And then of course all the protests say.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: See, you're a white supremacist colonialist trying to oppress indigenous
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: people by putting this statue up, when in fact, of
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: course the statue should never have come down in the
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: first place. So that's the kind of wedge that they're
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: trying to put people into, and counsels should not fall
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: for it. But it is just part of this sort
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: of ugliness. And again, if you're going to tear down
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: statues of Captain Cook, where do you stop?
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: Do you level Paris?
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: Because the Paris that is, you know, made famous by
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: sex in the city was built by Napoleon, who was
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: a dictatorial monster who killed thousand upon thousands of people.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Do you do you.
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: Tear down the statues of Winston Churchill because you know
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: the Bengal famine. We can't forget that.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Do you tear down everything Martin Luther King ever did
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: because he was known as not being very good with women.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: That's the suffrage.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Faithfully, he was done for assault.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: They did not know that, but I knew. I knew
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: he was not a faithful husband. But again, there are
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: plenty of other people. John Lennon International Airport. John Lennon
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: admitted that he used to hit women. If you you know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: gandhy Gandy's been used of being racist towards black South
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: Africans during his time there, not acknowledging their plight. Abraham Lincoln,
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: the Great Emancipator. Of course, he was responsible for some
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: marching west of the Native Americans, which resulted in all
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: sorts of terrible things in dislocation. So again, if you
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: are going to say only a pure historical figure can
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: have a statue or something named after them, guess what.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: There'll be no statues, there'll be nothing named after anybody,
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: and there'll be no historical figures because they'll all have
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: been whitewatch from history. And then we can just pretend
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: that history was fine.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Cook surely is as pure as it gets because it's amazing.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Loves to say, you do the thing, Caleb.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Every time this comes up, I have to say Captain
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Cook was not on the first fleet. He was dead
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: nine years before the first fleet arrived in Australia.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: He was murdered in Hawaii.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: He had nothing to do with the settlement of He
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: was an explorer and yes, at an earlier point he
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: came to Australia, went round the joint, he got off
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: and stood on land, but he did not bring the
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: first fleet. He he did not colonize. He did nothing
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: of the sort. And so it shows how historically illiterate
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: these people are that the man that they seem to
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: target is not Arthur Philip or anyone else who was
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: actually involved.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: In getting up the colonies.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Right, they go after the dude who got killed nine
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: years before the colony began.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: It's got nothing to do with Captain Cole.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: Although Cooke did say Australia was a very nice place
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: and he was right about that.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Well, it is what he did for the world in
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: terms of exploration.
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: The scientific the exploration, but also it was a scientific voyage.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: So he was there's the transit of Venus and he
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: performed the credits. Is a self taught guy. He grew
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: up he was the son of a collier. I think
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: it was. He used to drive drive coal ships up
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: and down, up and down England. And the endeavor, I
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: believe was a collier. It was a coal ship that
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: was red was to go all the way, so he
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: used to just go up and down England and then
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: went all the way around the world. And he was
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: self taught, self made, self educated, did these incredibly precise
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: observations of the transit of Venus, although there was a
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: lot of overcast whether they'd got in his way and
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: made him really upset. But this is this guy is
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: a working class hero. He's a working class successory. He
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: wasn't even a real he was a lieutenant.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: He had the title.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Because he was no There is no record of even
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: any bad relations between him and the indigenous.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: There was there was one encounter, and it was very
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: unclear what happened, but there was exactly There was some
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: I think there was some spears throwing or some projectiles
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: thrown towards the ship, and then there was a shot fired.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: From the ship.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: No one was killed as far as we know it
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: as possible, and that this person was injured and we
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: don't know what happened to them. And then yes, Arthur
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: Phillip rocked up with the first fleet and he had
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: in his hot little hand a set of rules. And
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: one of the rules was if any of the colonists,
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: any of the convicts harmed any of the indigenous people,
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: they would be hanged.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Correct in this photos of those white people hanging because
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Queen Victoria wasn't.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Right And this is the other argument of people going
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: to bed. All the terrible Royal family were involved. They
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: specifically said that Indigenous people were to be treated as
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: though they were subjects of the British when it happened.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Everyone else.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: And one of the orders that Philip hard was to
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: establish friendly relations.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: These are obviously things back and forth.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: These people, they literally have no idea.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: After the paper after papers, after the break will get
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: into the papers, including the astonishing amount of money Queensland
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: is spending to try and get your vote. You'll find
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: out how much it is after this, let's get stuck
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: into the papers, starting with the Australian Tomorrow, where Costello's
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: brain snap Agro in charge at nine nine Entertainment's chairman
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Peter Costello is under serious pressure to keep his Jill
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Bob after he knocked a reporter to the ground in
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: front of witnesses at Canberra Airport while he was refusing
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: to answer questions about the sexual harassment scandal engulfing his
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: media company.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Here is the shove in question.
• 38:14
  Speaker 11: Were you aware of the allegations against mister Wick before
• 38:16
  Speaker 11: he left nine? Were you aware of those allegations, mister Costello,
• 38:22
  Speaker 11: why won't you support mister sneezebe publicly?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Goodness?
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Well, you've got to answer the questions.
• 38:29
  Speaker 12: Mister Costello, You've just assaulted.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: You've just assaulted me.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: And this was mister Costello a few moments later in
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Parliament House saying it was all misunderstanding.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: When I came through Camber Airport, there was a reporter
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: walking backwards with his phone filming.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: As I walked past him.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: He walked back into an advertising play card and he fell.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: I did not strike him.
• 39:04
  Speaker 10: If he's upset about that, I'm sorry, but I did
• 39:08
  Speaker 10: not strike him.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: But unfortunately for mister Costello, some people who actually saw
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the thing have a different version of events.
• 39:17
  Speaker 12: He saw that I'm just filming because I'm trying to
• 39:20
  Speaker 12: So you saw you saw that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he like picking about here.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: I don't know, wats you fall over there? I just
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: sat there going to smoke on the.
• 39:27
  Speaker 12: pH Okay, yeah, I just saw it'd been shacking up.
• 39:30
  Speaker 12: What was that about?
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: So he obviously said something.
• 39:35
  Speaker 12: That I'm just asking questions about the Mike Sneezby thing.
• 39:38
  Speaker 12: So I'm I'm from the Australian and yeah, I thought
• 39:43
  Speaker 12: like he's trying to he was trying to say that
• 39:44
  Speaker 12: I walked.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Into there, but I don't know. Yeah, so I saw that. Yeah,
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: we saw it.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: If he saw it, I wonder what mister Costello has
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: to say about that. And some other witnesses are quoted
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: in the Odds Tomorrow as saying that mister Costello had
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: quote charged through Liam Mendez the reporter, like a sumo wrestler,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: that he shoulder barged Mendez, knocked him flying and gave
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Mendez a good shunting. And there was another person I
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: saw quoted on The Australian's website earlier today saying that
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: mister Costello was an effing big bloke and he couldn't
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: believe what he had watched, you.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: Know, and Liam mind is not a is quite a
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: slows not bloke as well. Yeah, it's to say the
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: understatement of the century.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Is that this is an appalling look.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: No one, I don't think is accusing Predicastell of striking
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: that that was a sort of weird, sort of very
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: very much a politician's answer says, I did not strike him.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Well, no one suggesting that he struck him.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: What looks like has happened is you've just barged into
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: him with your shoulder and pushed him into said advertising
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: placard that is then tripped over backwards, and then you've
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: stood there towering over him without even offering him a
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: hand up or an apology or any any indication that
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: you actually care. In fact, you look rather please with
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: yourself and as though you meant it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing, right, that's what it looks like
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: if and he says in the extended statement he gave
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: that you know, I've seen this happen a million times.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Reporter walks backwards, they fall it is.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: He's saying that every single time he's watched a reporter
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: fall over, he's just stood there.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: And laughed at them.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Because Liam Mendez says to him, you have assaulted me
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: and you can audibly hear what you assume is mister Costello.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Cackling about it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: He doesn't come over and put his hand out and say, sorry, mate,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: can I give you a lift up?
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Or are you okay?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I think the I think the fact that he didn't
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: do that would seemingly suggest that he had in fact
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: been instrumental in knocking him over, because there's no use
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: me shouldering you to the ground and then turning around
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: and being like, oh mate, you're right, Can I gets
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: the appointment?
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: There's nothing, there's no between.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: The camera and Peter and I awhere if he's not
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: if this advertising placard is there, and that is what
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: mister Costello says, mister Costello had full view of the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: advertising placard, in which case he could have just moved
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: a few inches to the other side and not caused
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Liam to walk into it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: It's pretty hard to see how it's not deliberate.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: At the same time, you're wondering why Costello's figure that
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: it's a good idea to come up with an alternative
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: version of events when this is this is Canberra Airport.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: CCTV footage will prove someone right and somebody else wrong.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Within seconds and all those seems like he's trying to
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: get the story straight right. Perhaps there's a sort of
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: belated realization, is what he's saying.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: No, I didn't you.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Tripped over Remember you tripped over that advertising placard and
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: fell backwards.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Remember that?
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: Remember how I didn't hit you and you've tripped over
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: that advertising placard. I say hello, mister Thompson, and stamp
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: your foot. You say hello. It's just look, I'm surprised.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: I've had very good relations with Petty Gestella in the past.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: This is not a side to him that I knew existed,
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: but it's a side to him that according to the camera.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Good good luck is all I can say to Peter Costello.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Now, the story on the front of the Ears tomorrow
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: PM slam's new reactor rabbit hole. Anthony Alberizi will say,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: we cannot afford to waste fifteen years down a.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Rabbit hole about nuclear reactors.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Must embrace solar energy, wind power and green hydrogen to
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: drive the nation's knit zero by twenty fifty transition. It's
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: just the same tide lines, isn't it serious?
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, all the energy companies are now singing from the
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: same book saying, look, this is very nice but simply
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: not feasible. So the bottom line is where is our
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: base power going to come from? Our base load power?
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Right now, that's still a badge proudly worn by Cole
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: so Victoria's.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: From gas themselves.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: But that's another fossil fuel Joe, So it just you
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: know that we're.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Ashamed of that as well.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Apparently, Look, we've said it a million times nuclear is
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: the only way to go, and it doesn't seem it's
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: certainly not going to go anywhere.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: If they're small module reactors come online, then it will
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: be viable.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: I think that.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: But that's when.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Labor would come to the party.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: If everyone else, If everyone else ends up doing it,
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: why not everybody else doing it? Very very excitable. The
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: small module reactor studies this yet so well we have them,
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: so no one.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Else is doing it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: But if they do come online and they're affordable, I
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: think that's all great. But they're saying building the giants.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Do you genuinely believe labor?
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: So tomorrow big announcement SMRs are online. Matter.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: If labor would take up nuclear.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Probably wouldn't even be discoverment because it could be ten
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: years before that there.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Well, the sooner you get started, you.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: Know not well, other people, we're not building them.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: We know that they put it a joe because about
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: them and renewal.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: But hydrogen is very very exciting, and they're going all
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: into hydrogen. And hydrogen is something that a lot of
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: the traditional greeny ra ra renewables people very have been
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: very very skeptical about because they just wanted to be
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: all solar and win. But clearly hydrogen as firming as
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: something that possibly could be the next big thing.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: So who knows wherever it comes from. I'm happy.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the Korea Mail before we leave where
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: it says Tomorrow revealed Premier's infrastructure plan to cost same
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: as moon landings, big builds, giant leap. The price tag
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: of the Males government centerpiece big build has ballooned to
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: one hundred and even billion over the next four years,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: almost the same cost permanent of the Apollo project that
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: landed Man on the Moon. I mean, they could be
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: rivaling the Victorian government going down this sort of road goodness, Geen.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: And this is just this is eighteen billion up from
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: last year when they unveiled it. You want to blame
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: that on inflation or let me get supply chain issues.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, that is a massive jump in a meal
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: one year, and as.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: The paper notes, looking at the photo on the front,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: there at no wonder the premiere needs to be coming up.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: After the break, we'll get into some other funnies of
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the night, including the fact that apparently transgender people who
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: are operating on some sort.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Of different time continuum. I don't really know what's going on.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure you will either that up next.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Now, look, I don't know about you. I thought time
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: just sort of worked. As you know, there are sixty
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: seconds in a minute, sixty minutes in an hour, twenty
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: four hours in a day, three hundred and sixty five
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: days in a year. But apparently if you are LGBT
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: IQ plus Joe, there's a totally different form of time.
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: That is such a cis white hetter thing to say. No,
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: there's freg time, there's Curry time, and now there's trans time.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: Apparently LGBTQUI plus people experience time in a different way
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: to the rest of us. But don't take my word
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: for it, take the word of this random blogger on TikTok.
• 47:07
  Speaker 13: Did you know that queer and trans people actually experienced
• 47:10
  Speaker 13: time completely differently to SISHT people. It's a concept called
• 47:13
  Speaker 13: queer temporality, and it basically has to do with the
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: fact that historically, as queer and trans people, our lives
• 47:20
  Speaker 13: have started much later and for a whole bunch of reasons,
• 47:24
  Speaker 13: ended earlier than our sis head counterparts. So as a result,
• 47:28
  Speaker 13: our experience of time is compressed.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: So there you go.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: And when she opens that video by saying, did you
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: know that? I did not know that?
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: No, and now I do.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Amazing your life started later than everyone. What did you
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: have to wait five years at some point.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: In their lives that they were and that it's doesn't
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: that mean and that's when their life.
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: Doesn't that mean that they're younger than all of us?
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: That's a good thing, right should.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, she's just saying that that is why they're on
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: a different time space continuum. But Trump's new campaign ad
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: has dropped, and this time.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: He hasn't said a word. He's just let Biden do
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: all the work.
• 48:17
  Speaker 14: I'm not a young guy. That's still secret.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Anyway, that's it.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Vote Trump or for that senile old man.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: He hasn't said a word, He hasn't appeared in his
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: own campaign ad. He's just like, I'm just gonna run
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: an add of their current president tripping over himself.
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for Western civilization. It's been great while it lasted.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Let's Joe Biden, He's.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Either anyway. That's it from us this week. Up next,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: rat to padding chefood Now