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The Inventing Heiress with Nicole Byer (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

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Speaker 1: Scaled, Come Robbaby and Frill Scared, Come.
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Speaker 2: Robby and froll Cab Goddess. What's Popping? Congregation is Schagirl
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Speaker 2: Lacy mostly aka scam Goddess and Guys, I'm so I
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Speaker 2: always say what do we say? Say it with me?
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Speaker 2: I'm so excited for today's guests, but for real, y'all, Okay,
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Speaker 2: this is the first time that we've had a repeat guest.
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Speaker 2: Uh the one the only I think for the whole season,
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Speaker 2: this will be the only repeat guest. Guys. She is
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Speaker 2: the Emmy nominated hilarious queen, one of the amazing hosts
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Speaker 2: of Nailed It. You love her podcast, Why Won't You
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Speaker 2: Date Me? You love her podcast best Friends, you love
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Speaker 2: her and everything that you freaking see. This is Nicole
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Speaker 2: Byer Guys, what's up, Nicole Lazy?
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Speaker 3: What a beautiful intro. And I love that you tell
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Speaker 3: people to say things with you because I would love
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Speaker 3: to see someone like in their car just being like
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Speaker 3: just talking with you, feeling themselves.
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Speaker 2: I love it, right. I feel like, especially now, podcasts
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Speaker 2: are like you're just kind of talking to yourself, So
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Speaker 2: I want you to feel like I'm talking back, like
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Speaker 2: what did I say y'all so crazy. We would just
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Speaker 2: had a moment, so y'all get to keep that. Well,
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Speaker 2: we've talked about scams, Nicole and your relationship with scams,
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Speaker 2: and yes, yes, yes we talked. I remember you telling
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Speaker 2: me that you've you've fallen for some scams, right, have
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Speaker 2: I fallen?
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I fall I scammed. We talked
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Speaker 3: about me scamming my dad.
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Speaker 2: Ohkay, yeah, we did talk about you scamming your dad.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was a scam that you fell for.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I was wrong, Maybe I was wrong.
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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't remember, and I'm trying to rack my brain,
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Speaker 3: but I mean, I just bought a shitty bike from
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Speaker 3: a shitty company, and I think that that was a
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Speaker 3: fucking scam bikebury dot com. I got very drunk and
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Speaker 3: was googling bikes and you know, they paid for those
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Speaker 3: ads to pop up first, so I clicked on that
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Speaker 3: paid for ad. I found this purple bike that like
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Speaker 3: said it was a cruiser, But then I got it
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Speaker 3: there was a hole in it. So then I took
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Speaker 3: a picture there was a hole in the box, and
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Speaker 3: I sent that picture to the company and they were like, oh, well,
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Speaker 3: the thing that's poking through the box was there just
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Speaker 3: in case there was damage to the box during shipping.
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Speaker 3: I said, well, I don't know if I really want
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Speaker 3: to open the bike and like figure out other stuff
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Speaker 3: wrong with it. And they were like all right, and
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Speaker 3: you know, bat on me for not reading their return
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Speaker 3: policy where it's like you paid for the ship and back.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much shipping is for a fucking
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Speaker 3: bike on my set. You know, it's probably probably it's
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Speaker 3: a heavy it's like seventy I don't know, not seventy pounds,
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Speaker 3: sixty pounds, forty pounds, I don't know. And then you
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Speaker 3: pay like a fifteen percent restocking fee. And I was like,
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Speaker 3: so I'm still gonna be out like fifty sixty maybe
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Speaker 3: eighty on this two hundred dollars bike. I might as
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Speaker 3: well just put it together. Put it together. This thing
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Speaker 3: is so fucking janky, like the gears just twist around.
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Speaker 3: And I didn't put it together. I can't do that shit.
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Speaker 2: I had a man, did you put it together? I
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Speaker 2: was about to be like, okay, this is that. That
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Speaker 2: was the scam right there.
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Speaker 3: You put the bike together, had a man put it together,
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Speaker 3: and he was like he followed the directions to a
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Speaker 3: tea and we could like the gears just spin. It
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Speaker 3: is such a shitty bike. So then I post about
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Speaker 3: how shitty it was and they're like, well, we started
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Speaker 3: a return for you, and I was like, yeah, but
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Speaker 3: I also told you I was gonna open it and
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Speaker 3: see how it was. And I opened it and this
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Speaker 3: is a piece of shit bike. I'm very entitled to
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Speaker 3: that opinion. And I'm like, so now you want me
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Speaker 3: to disassemble it, put this fucking shitty ass bike back
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Speaker 3: in the box. You want me to pay fifteen percent? No,
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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna donate it. Jacobaizaki was like, you should
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Speaker 3: donate it, and I was like, oh, yes, so I
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Speaker 3: might be able to use the frame because the frame
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Speaker 3: isn't bad.
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Speaker 2: The wheels are bad, the handles are bad. I thought
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Speaker 2: you were saying you're gonna donated to a place where
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Speaker 2: it was like gonna be some little keyd riding this
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Speaker 2: junky ass bike. I'm like to go that right.
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Speaker 3: Imagine I donated to like kids and need a bike
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Speaker 3: and then they die on this Bikeberry dot Com bike.
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Speaker 2: Also, I feel like a bike is something that most
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Speaker 2: people buy in person. Am I crazy? I feel like
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Speaker 2: this is very ambitious of you to like buy a
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Speaker 2: not a do it yourself bike.
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Speaker 3: I know, I know. It was very ambitious. I thought
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Speaker 3: I was getting a good deal. But you get what
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Speaker 3: you pay for. Uh.
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Speaker 2: John was like.
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Speaker 3: My roommate was like, yeah, you have to go sit
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Speaker 3: on the bike and see it in person.
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Speaker 2: I suck.
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Speaker 3: All right, I give up, I'll go I'll go sit
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Speaker 3: on a bike another day.
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Speaker 2: I think that's the right choice, because look, I won't
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Speaker 2: even do a sour dough starter. So you are very brave.
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Speaker 2: You are very brave to buy a whole bike in
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Speaker 2: a box. It's my bike and a box. It's a
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Speaker 2: bike and my box. Oh goodness. Let's get into what's
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Speaker 2: hot and fraud. I need to name Nicole for this person.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. This person probably identifies as a woman, but
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Speaker 2: I don't care. You can it can be any name
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Speaker 2: you want in the world. Okay. I love that you're
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Speaker 2: really giving this a lot of thought.
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Speaker 3: Okay, you just just a name, just a name for
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Speaker 3: a person. Okay, let's call her Teresa. What a basic name?
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Speaker 3: You did all that, I think all that time, and
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Speaker 3: I came up with Teresa. No, she'll sh Shamika. That's
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Speaker 3: my cousin.
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Speaker 2: I like, I know some Shamika's. They're nice, most of them.
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Speaker 2: They can fight. Can your cousin fight? Does she does?
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Speaker 2: She look like you can fight.
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Speaker 3: I think Shamika could take you on on a fight.
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Speaker 2: She's tall.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Okay, she's a tall woman.
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Speaker 2: I've never met a Shamika that couldn't fight, so that
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Speaker 2: that's just something they're skilled that. Okay, it's not the
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Speaker 2: wrong with that. So Shamika says, I did this scam
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Speaker 2: a decade ago when I was a young, broke adult
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Speaker 2: and it worked out well at the time. Okay, she says,
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Speaker 2: in my state home state of Montana, Smika. Okay, Shemika
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Speaker 2: is definitely white. I just looked at the Google photos
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Speaker 2: said also, she said my homestate of Montana, and that
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Speaker 2: made me shoot my eyes back up to the photo
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Speaker 2: because I was like, yeah, is there black in Montana.
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Speaker 3: I went to Billings, Montana once, and to get to Billings, Montana,
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Speaker 3: I think I flew to whatever their capital is or
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Speaker 3: whatever their big city is, and then got on the
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Speaker 3: tiniest fucking plane to get to Billings and the black
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Speaker 3: flight attendant looked at me as I got on the
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Speaker 3: plane and said honey, you going to the right place.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, well, if she's asking, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Then I got there and I was like, m now
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Speaker 3: I know why she was.
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Speaker 2: She was worried about me. She started smiling and the
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Speaker 2: tears came. Yes. She was like no, no, no, no
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Speaker 2: no yes, she was no, no, no, Get get off
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Speaker 2: the plane, get out. I feel like you went to
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Speaker 2: one of those towns where like they have a popular
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Speaker 2: sign and then it like goes up when you get there.
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Speaker 3: Yep, uh huh, I goes right back down when I
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Speaker 3: left the next day.
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Speaker 2: Were you there for work or something? Why were you? Okay?
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Speaker 3: I was doing a show at a college. College shows
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Speaker 3: have truly taken me to the wildest, most racist, smallest
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Speaker 3: towns I've ever been to.
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Speaker 2: And it's funny because they hired you. Correct now, now,
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Speaker 2: I'm you are very funny and you're very talented and
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Speaker 2: very beautiful and the cole But part of me wonders
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Speaker 2: if they hired you because they were like, this is
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Speaker 2: our one chance to lay eyes on a black person.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to pay them, but they will come.
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Speaker 3: A lot of campuses are pretty liberal, like you'll be
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Speaker 3: smack dab in the middle of like Confederate flag country,
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Speaker 3: like I was in Arizona, got off the plane, tons
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Speaker 3: of Trump flags. This is in twenty fifteen, and like,
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Speaker 3: you know, Confederate flags. I saw like a people of
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Speaker 3: swastika somewhere and then got to the campus and it
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Speaker 3: was like hippy dippy people with like neon hair, and
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Speaker 3: I was.
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Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck did I do.
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Speaker 3: It's so it's like once you crossed over into the college,
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Speaker 3: they're like higher learning, We're inclusive, we want to love everybody.
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Speaker 3: So but also maybe it is just to see a
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Speaker 3: black one one time.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it was because you're very funny, but also
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Speaker 2: I'm sure afterwards they were like, Wow, that's what it's like, guys,
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Speaker 2: a black person. Oh my god. Did you do meet
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Speaker 2: in person?
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Speaker 3: Uh?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I usually do meet. They got to talk to you.
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Speaker 2: They did. They did.
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Speaker 3: In one college, a woman gave me lotion and I
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Speaker 3: was like, is this a dig?
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Speaker 2: I was like, am I?
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Speaker 3: I guess I'm notoriously ashy. I always post pictures and
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Speaker 3: I look so ashy. And it was a white lady
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Speaker 3: and I was like, oh no, if they know, no,
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Speaker 3: not if they know.
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Speaker 2: Look, white people don't know about ashness. They don't know
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Speaker 2: about it, but I will say that Jaquith says that
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Speaker 2: it's racist when people don't have lotion in the bathroom
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Speaker 2: because black people need lotion after they wash their hands.
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Speaker 2: So maybe maybe she was just trying to help you out.
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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe she was. She was like, there's no lotion
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Speaker 3: in Billings, Montana. Not one Walmart carries a single drop
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Speaker 3: of lotion.
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Speaker 2: White people do need lotion. They do, but they don't
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Speaker 2: know that they need it. Oh you know what, now
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Speaker 2: it's their chance, y'all lotion. Everybody needs it? Yes, everybody. Wait,
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Speaker 2: here's the indication. Okay, I think this is gonna be
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Speaker 2: indicative if she was being shady. Was it like a fragrant,
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Speaker 2: like a nice lotion or did she give you some jargons?
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Speaker 3: No, it was actually very nice lotion. I cannot say
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Speaker 3: the name of the company. I've been laughed at before.
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Speaker 3: Leoctane lost Oh my.
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Speaker 2: God, yep, no, no, no, no, listen. I didn't know either.
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Speaker 2: I had a boyfriend in college and he spoke fluent
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Speaker 2: French and one time I was like, oh, I love
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Speaker 2: Octane was.
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, luxititumb that's so I'll never remember
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Speaker 3: that name luxit doom.
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Speaker 2: What a treat lux it dom rolls off your tongue
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Speaker 2: though you're giving me face, remember it? Well, No, that
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Speaker 2: she was trying to flegs. She went and got you
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Speaker 2: some good lotion. I think that was a shade. That
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Speaker 2: was a shade.
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Speaker 3: Okay, she was being nice, all right.
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Speaker 2: So back to Shamika, who was definitely white. She says,
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Speaker 2: in my state of Montana, we have a quit line
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Speaker 2: you can call for free anti smoking items like gum
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Speaker 2: and patches. I took it upon myself to call the
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Speaker 2: quit line and have the short conversation about my smoking habits.
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Speaker 2: They agreed to send me the patches, and every two
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Speaker 2: weeks I need to have a fifteen minute conversation with
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Speaker 2: them to check in on how I'm doing. That's interesting
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Speaker 2: to me because it's like, if people want to quit,
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Speaker 2: then why do I need to Like they're like, oh, hey, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you want to quit. So how was this week? How
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Speaker 2: many cigarettes did you have? How much to like, how
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Speaker 2: much tobacco did you lick on?
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Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 2: What is this conversation? Lick up? Well, quitting is very hard.
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Speaker 3: I've tried to quit smoking, uh no, less than four times,
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Speaker 3: ten times one hundred times.
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Speaker 2: Uh, and it's hard. I will say that I was
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Speaker 2: never into smoking cigarettes, but for a four month period,
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Speaker 2: I was jeweling like I was a fifteen year old.
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Speaker 3: Well yeah, you just puff on them inside. It was
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Speaker 3: that's so wild that you weren't a smoker, but you
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Speaker 3: were like, but jewel, I'll do that, tell.
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Speaker 2: Me because you know, we do comedy and we'll be
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Speaker 2: outside of bars and shit afterwards, and you know, you
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Speaker 2: have a few drinks and then people would be like
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Speaker 2: jeweling and I'd be like, sometimes back in the day,
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Speaker 2: I would like bum a cigarette. So it wasn't like
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Speaker 2: a big deal to like, you know, do that. So
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, shuel. Then I was like, oh,
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Speaker 2: it's not sanitary, just like puff someone else's jewel. I'll
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Speaker 2: just go grab my own for whenever. And then I
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Speaker 2: meg up and the call, I kid, you not jewel
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Speaker 2: pods everywhere like fucking chargers everywhere. And I didn't know
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Speaker 2: when I had become this person. I had a jewel
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Speaker 2: charger in my car, so I really plug it in
11:56
Speaker 2: my car and keep the jewel charged all day. I
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Speaker 2: had no idea idea that I was so ridiculously addicted
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Speaker 2: to it.
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Speaker 3: So the commercials are real when there's a team that's
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Speaker 3: like it started with one puff and next thing I
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Speaker 3: knew my life revolved around jewel.
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Speaker 2: I was sucking dick for jewel, like it.
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Speaker 3: You know, that's when times it was rough, when you
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Speaker 3: were sucking dick for a cigarette or a jewel.
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Speaker 2: They're not cheap either, And those pods are not cheap.
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Speaker 2: How much are those pods? Those pods? Depending on what
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Speaker 2: story you're going to, some stores will really rip you
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Speaker 2: off and they'll be like thirty five for a four pack, yam,
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Speaker 2: and then some places it's twenty seven for a four pack.
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Speaker 3: Damn. You know, I missed the days where you could
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Speaker 3: share a cigarette with a friend or drink after a friend.
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Speaker 2: Never again, Never again.
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Speaker 3: We was fucking nasty now, like you know, like now
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Speaker 3: that I think about it, like I kind of like
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Speaker 3: wearing a mask, especially like working, because like people get
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Speaker 3: so close to you, to mike you, and now it's
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Speaker 3: so nice that like we're not breathing on each other.
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Speaker 2: I think it's great. I also think it's a wake
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Speaker 2: up call to people who had hot ass bread and
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Speaker 2: we can never tell people that they breath hot, Like
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Speaker 2: can we normalize telling people that their breath as hot
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Speaker 2: as fuck, because there's people sending my eyelashes off and
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Speaker 2: now I know they gotta smell that. They gotta have
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Speaker 2: it own, not just right back up.
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Speaker 3: And there I was at a protest and I was like,
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Speaker 3: oh no, I think I have bad breath. And then
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Speaker 3: so she was like, did you wash? When's the last
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Speaker 3: time you washed your mask? And I was like wash.
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Speaker 2: But now I'm in it. I'm in the game. I
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Speaker 2: realize it's like.
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Speaker 3: Clothing, you gotta wash it every couple of days.
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Speaker 2: So I'm in it. Yes, I've had I've had to
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Speaker 2: go out with a funky mask once or twice and
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Speaker 2: I was like, this is fucking torture. Just it's awful scarce.
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Speaker 1: God.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, so, oh my god, I've never admitted. Am
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Speaker 2: I gonna maybe I'll cut that out. About the duel thing.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm ready to tell you guys
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Speaker 2: that I was doing that, but I was, I was.
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Speaker 2: I guess I'll be honest. I mean, you don't have to.
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Speaker 2: Don't do juil. You don't want the information out there.
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Speaker 3: I rarely talk about smoking because people look down on
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Speaker 3: you so much and they're like, just quit it's not good.
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, you don't think I know we're in
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Speaker 3: a pandemic and I'm hiding in my house because I'm
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Speaker 3: more susceptible.
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Speaker 2: To like I have bad lungs. I know, I know
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Speaker 2: what I've been doing, right, And it's like and people,
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Speaker 2: but that's what Maybe this will be a cautionary tale
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Speaker 2: for someone out there. Guys, don't jewel. Don't jewel, it's bad.
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Speaker 2: Don't jewel. Don't start. Don't start, No for real, don't start.
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Speaker 3: It's like I had to learn how to smoke. I'm
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Speaker 3: not an inherent smoker, so I would like sit in
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Speaker 3: my garage and like inhale and then cough and then
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Speaker 3: slowly inhale halfway hold the other half in my mouth.
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Speaker 2: It was why for what?
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Speaker 3: And now it's you know, twenty dollars every couple days,
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Speaker 3: just so I can get my little fixed.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a thank you, Big Tobacco. That's a scam, right, oh,
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Speaker 2: the biggest, one of the biggest. It's crazy that Big
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Speaker 2: Tobacco also pays for all the ads that warn you
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Speaker 2: about cigarettes. Because that's like doy, that's like they're rule,
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Speaker 2: like there are a thing with the government is like
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Speaker 2: Philip Morris, like they have to pay for those ads.
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Speaker 2: They pay for the truth. Yes, with the little black
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Speaker 2: kids like I would never smoke because I can't let
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Speaker 2: my hood down. And now we about to dance play basketball?
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Speaker 2: Why are those commercials like that.
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Speaker 3: That? I mean, yeah, black commercials. Sometimes I'm like, who
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Speaker 3: did this? Was it a black person or is this
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Speaker 3: a white person projecting what they think black culture is.
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Speaker 2: If you want to see a TV show where you
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Speaker 2: can very much tell where everyone on it was white
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Speaker 2: who was writing for the black people? I highly recommend
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Speaker 2: In the Dark. I think that's what it's called on Netflix.
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Speaker 2: That's the show about the blind woman who becomes a detective.
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Speaker 2: They don't even.
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Speaker 3: Sound right, but I'm not being ablest, but maybe I
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Speaker 3: am being ablest.
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Speaker 2: I feel like that would be just a real uphill.
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Speaker 2: Bad it is, and that's why the show was fun
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Speaker 2: to watch, because you're watching her like she's impressive, but
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Speaker 2: then she she saw in the murder of her her
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Speaker 2: little black friend who saved her once from a mugging.
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Speaker 2: But he's a drug dealer. But like he's clearly a
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Speaker 2: British actor and the whole thing is written by white people.
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Speaker 2: You can just tell that they never they'd never heard
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Speaker 2: of drug dealers before they did. They probably watched the
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Speaker 2: wire a little bit, and we're like, I can do that.
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Speaker 3: I once did a McDonald's commercial where McDonald's, you know,
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Speaker 3: perhaps to them, they have a whole website four black people.
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Speaker 3: It's called McDonald's three sixty five and they and it's
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Speaker 3: like they talk about black history all year round.
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Speaker 2: But I that's.
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Speaker 3: How, you know. But I did this voiceover. It was
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Speaker 3: me and uh two or three other black women, and
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Speaker 3: I don't remember if I had auditioned for it, but
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Speaker 3: they were like, all right, let's go for it. And
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Speaker 3: my line was don't steal my French fries. So I
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Speaker 3: said don't steal my French fries, and they were like
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Speaker 3: can you? And then I was like, sass it up.
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Speaker 3: And then the other women laughed and I was like.
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Speaker 2: Don't steal my French fries.
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Speaker 3: And then the other women sounded just like me, and
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Speaker 3: they were like a girl, that's my call.
17:17
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it in a French fry year.
17:20
Speaker 3: And then after all three of us did it like that,
17:24
Speaker 3: the whoever, I guess it was, whoever, like the producers
17:28
Speaker 3: or whatever, the buyers were like, Okay, let's just go
17:30
Speaker 3: back to your normal voices. And I was like point made.
17:33
Speaker 3: I like, I love that we made that point because
17:35
Speaker 3: it was like, if you want a minstrel show, that's
17:39
Speaker 3: what you can have, or you can have like just
17:42
Speaker 3: three black women talking.
17:45
Speaker 2: It was why I'm gonna take that with me because
17:47
Speaker 2: that is an excellent wage. Not who's also like, why
17:51
Speaker 2: are the lines like y'all getting robbed? Your bet don't?
17:57
Speaker 2: Because I know you, like what why are you getting
18:01
Speaker 2: robbed in this commercial?
18:04
Speaker 3: So sheher has a pretty good joke about it. I
18:06
Speaker 3: can't remember. It was like the Black Blinds to Go
18:08
Speaker 3: where it was like.
18:09
Speaker 2: You can't see in my house.
18:10
Speaker 3: It was based on a commercial. And then I have
18:13
Speaker 3: a joke about McDonald's and how my god. Sometimes they're
18:17
Speaker 3: just like my baby daddy took me to get a
18:18
Speaker 3: mc rib and I was like they both back and
18:21
Speaker 3: You're like.
18:21
Speaker 2: What fu fuck they go back.
18:25
Speaker 1: I'm leaving.
18:26
Speaker 2: I'm leaving. I have to go home, and I'm at home,
18:32
Speaker 2: So guys, what a wild tangent. But to wrap up
18:36
Speaker 2: Shamika White Shamika's letter, uh huh. White Shamika says after
18:41
Speaker 2: she would have her conversations where she talked about how
18:43
Speaker 2: hard it was, and actually we just talked about how
18:45
Speaker 2: hard it is, and so I understand these conversations now.
18:49
Speaker 2: She said, I received all three stages of patches, not
18:52
Speaker 2: sure how many in total, but as soon as I
18:53
Speaker 2: got them, I put them up for sale on eBay,
18:56
Speaker 2: and I had no problem selling them for thirty or
18:58
Speaker 2: forty dollars a box. I know I made a few
19:00
Speaker 2: hundred dollars doing this, and eventually I just ignored their
19:03
Speaker 2: calls and quit getting the patches. I'm terrible, signed Shamika.
19:10
Speaker 2: Just in case you forgot what we were talking about
19:12
Speaker 2: when we went on these tangents. I did Shamika maybe
19:17
Speaker 2: never smoked cigarettes, or if she did, she didn't quit,
19:21
Speaker 2: or she just called the quit line, got the very
19:25
Speaker 2: expensive free quitting materials, and then she went to eBay
19:29
Speaker 2: and she slanged them.
19:31
Speaker 3: You know, I don't knock the hustle.
19:34
Speaker 2: I really don't, Shamika. I fucks with you like I think,
19:38
Speaker 2: come on in Montana. Yes, get it, Shamika.
19:42
Speaker 3: I think Shamika is an entrepreneur.
19:44
Speaker 2: Yes, she's a what are they calling when you're a
19:46
Speaker 2: woman entrepreneur? A entrepreneur. I thought we had a word
19:49
Speaker 2: for that, do we were? We just put her in
19:52
Speaker 2: it or something? Entrepreneur?
19:58
Speaker 3: Entrepreneur truly sounds like something wrong with like a herniated disc.
20:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh disc. Yeah, you're right. It's not very motivating, don't.
20:05
Speaker 2: We don't need that one. So this is my favorite
20:10
Speaker 2: segment of the show, Historic Hoodwinks, where I will regale
20:13
Speaker 2: Emmy nominated Nicole Byer with I just have to sprinkle
20:17
Speaker 2: it in like seasoning a.
20:18
Speaker 3: Little bit, because honestly, it truly is such a wild thing.
20:22
Speaker 2: Who would have thought I would have? Who would have thought?
20:26
Speaker 2: Black Queen? I love it. So I'm gonna regale her
20:29
Speaker 2: with the Historic Hoodwink and we're just gonna get her
20:31
Speaker 2: thoughts and opinions along the way. Today we're talking about
20:35
Speaker 2: a man named Jonathan Walton, a producer on American Ninja Warrior.
20:39
Speaker 2: That's that show where the athletic people hurt themselves. Yeah,
20:45
Speaker 2: and they do an obstacle course, so you watch it
20:48
Speaker 2: hoping that they fall. Yes. So he was conned out
20:52
Speaker 2: of nearly ninety thousand dollars by his best friend. Gonna
20:55
Speaker 2: put that in quotes Mayor Smythe mayor claimed to be
21:00
Speaker 2: a royal Irish heiress waiting to inherit five million euros.
21:05
Speaker 3: So wait a minute. If I ever met somebody, if
21:10
Speaker 3: I ever met somebody who was like, just see you know,
21:13
Speaker 3: I'm an heiress and I'm gonna inherit five million dollars,
21:16
Speaker 3: I'd be like, so you good with money?
21:18
Speaker 2: I don't have to give you shit, right, good, you're
21:21
Speaker 2: about to get it. But I'm about to get it though, girl, Like,
21:23
Speaker 2: I just need the texts and fees.
21:26
Speaker 3: No, don't worry about it. You can pay for all
21:27
Speaker 3: that once you get your inheritance.
21:30
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you some things that
21:32
Speaker 2: are gonna make more sense as to why maybe this
21:34
Speaker 2: worked on him. Okay, So the first time that Jonathan,
21:37
Speaker 2: who was forty five, met this woman who became his
21:40
Speaker 2: best friend and turned into his worst enemy, obviously, she
21:43
Speaker 2: was offering to help with his building's pool. So Walton
21:47
Speaker 2: lived in a bunker Hill apartment complex in downtown Los Angeles.
21:50
Speaker 2: Where is bunker Hill here? I don't know where bunker
21:53
Speaker 2: Hill is, but it says downtown LA. I don't live
21:56
Speaker 2: down there, so it says they lost access to their
21:58
Speaker 2: stunning pool. Amid a dispute with another building. These are
22:01
Speaker 2: a Champagne problems. So we're like, we lost the pool. Also,
22:05
Speaker 2: what do you mean to dispute with another building? Y'all
22:08
Speaker 2: was fighting that building. I really want to imagine people
22:13
Speaker 2: punching brick, but I know that's not what's happening. So
22:17
Speaker 2: when Walton, an earnest and animated former news reporter, held
22:21
Speaker 2: a meeting about the incident in his living room, about
22:24
Speaker 2: thirty people showed up because they're trying to get the
22:26
Speaker 2: pool back. Guys, I guess. So that meeting is where
22:30
Speaker 2: he met forty something year old woman with jet black
22:32
Speaker 2: hair in a pixie cut. Ooh, she's a manic pixie
22:35
Speaker 2: dream girl who soon took charge of the conversation. She
22:40
Speaker 2: was dressed in pastel colored clothes, shoes that looks high end,
22:45
Speaker 2: and she spoke with the slightest trace of an accent,
22:48
Speaker 2: which I'm assuming is an Irish accent, which is a
22:50
Speaker 2: hard accent to do.
22:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you just like a trace of I would
22:54
Speaker 3: think it's harder than just fully getting into it.
22:58
Speaker 2: The only think saying I want the pool to come back.
23:02
Speaker 3: I don't whoop whoop wood.
23:05
Speaker 2: That was really good. That was better than anything I
23:08
Speaker 2: could do. I literally went to They're magically delicious, like
23:14
Speaker 2: I could never they.
23:15
Speaker 3: Stole me like of charms and took away at my pool.
23:20
Speaker 2: Well this worked. Also, I feel like he must have
23:23
Speaker 2: equated her just casually wearing pastels as someone who's like rich.
23:28
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. I don't see a lot of people,
23:30
Speaker 2: just like unless you're at Coachella, you don't just see
23:33
Speaker 2: people who are walking around in full past not like
23:36
Speaker 2: head to toe in pastel.
23:38
Speaker 3: But now I'm thinking about maybe I gotta get more
23:41
Speaker 3: pastel in my life.
23:42
Speaker 2: Right? Is that how I shall people?
23:43
Speaker 3: I'm a real fancy holl is me like I got
23:47
Speaker 3: manny I'm wearing lavender?
23:48
Speaker 2: Maybe because I really don't see it that often. So.
23:52
Speaker 2: She said during her conversation where she had taken over
23:56
Speaker 2: that she was a luxury travel agent and her boyfriend
23:59
Speaker 2: was a prominent real estate lawyer. She said that she
24:01
Speaker 2: had sued their own apartment complex a couple of times,
24:05
Speaker 2: and one, oh, how do you ever needed to sue
24:07
Speaker 2: your apartment? Well, I mean you live in a house,
24:09
Speaker 2: but when you lived in an apartment, did you need
24:11
Speaker 2: to sue them?
24:12
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no no. Although my landlord. Oh maybe
24:18
Speaker 3: I talked about this last time. My landlord was running
24:21
Speaker 3: a scam, so he was like, you can give me
24:23
Speaker 3: or the super your rent. And then a couple of
24:26
Speaker 3: years down the line, there was a note on the
24:29
Speaker 3: building that was like, do not let Lewis in the building.
24:31
Speaker 3: He was in buzzling money. And then in the paper
24:33
Speaker 3: we were like, oh shit, Yeah, he was like in
24:35
Speaker 3: buzzling money and send his kids to private school, which
24:37
Speaker 3: I was.
24:37
Speaker 2: Like, you know, that's nice. That's a nice kid. You
24:41
Speaker 2: know that's nice. We need to children, let them lead
24:44
Speaker 2: the way.
24:46
Speaker 3: Yes, but no, I've never had to sue my apartment.
24:48
Speaker 3: I don't pay rent. I never paid rent on time.
24:51
Speaker 3: This is the first time in my life where I've
24:52
Speaker 3: paid my living expenses on time because it comes out
24:55
Speaker 3: of my bank account.
24:56
Speaker 2: Oh right, because it's like auto withdraw. Yeah, I'm childish.
24:59
Speaker 2: I won't that, and I know that I could withdraw
25:02
Speaker 2: forever and I'd probably be fine. But I every month,
25:04
Speaker 2: I just get the email and I begrudgingly go over
25:07
Speaker 2: there and like hit the payment button. And I don't
25:10
Speaker 2: know why I do it. I think I get like
25:12
Speaker 2: high from it. Sometimes I'll wait because I only get
25:14
Speaker 2: till the third. I don't even get till the fifth
25:16
Speaker 2: before you get a late fees. So I'm like, you
25:18
Speaker 2: only get to the third third, girl, they don't play.
25:22
Speaker 3: My apartment in New York, when I finally moved out,
25:24
Speaker 3: I would also never pay rent on time. I would
25:27
Speaker 3: pay like three months at a time. After the three months,
25:30
Speaker 3: and then when I finally moved out, they were like,
25:32
Speaker 3: your last month of rent is due. And I was like,
25:35
Speaker 3: that's why you bitches have security and they're like, no,
25:38
Speaker 3: the security's covering all your late fees.
25:40
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't.
25:41
Speaker 3: Live here no more, so I this is pay dable.
25:45
Speaker 2: You really are a scammer. She was like, that's why
25:47
Speaker 2: you got that deposit, but bye mate. So she's very charismatic.
25:53
Speaker 2: She's bantering with the neighbors. She sued the building a
25:56
Speaker 2: bunch of times. I imagine her going to like Judge
25:58
Speaker 2: Joe Brown suing the apartment building. I hope that's where
26:01
Speaker 2: it happened, and her story is that she in time
26:05
Speaker 2: would also mention that she was palsed with Ashley Judd
26:08
Speaker 2: and show him a closet full of allegedly thousand dollars
26:11
Speaker 2: designer shoes and share that she had a psychic gift. Now,
26:16
Speaker 2: I know what you're thinking. If you met somebody and
26:19
Speaker 2: they were like, hey, I'll be sawing my apartment buility
26:21
Speaker 2: every other Thursday. I own thousand dollars shoes. Ashley Judd
26:26
Speaker 2: is my homegirl, and also I'm a psychic. Like, if
26:31
Speaker 2: you heard all of that at one time, you would
26:32
Speaker 2: be like, bitch, what's going on?
26:34
Speaker 3: I would be like, I should stay away.
26:37
Speaker 2: From this fucking person. This is too much. But they
26:39
Speaker 2: were friends for four years before she scammed him.
26:44
Speaker 3: Honestly, bravo, this is bravo.
26:47
Speaker 2: What a long time, right. I was very impressed. So
26:50
Speaker 2: I get how over the years, if you have a
26:53
Speaker 2: casual conversation, like my homegirl would be like, girl, you
26:55
Speaker 2: know I'm a brew ha, And I wouldn't think that's crazy.
26:57
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you're a brewha. But I know
26:59
Speaker 2: her for years. I was like, sure, you're a brewhaw.
27:01
Speaker 2: She hasn't asked me for ninety thousand dollars yet, but beware, right,
27:06
Speaker 2: but she has shown me some nice clothes, she is
27:07
Speaker 2: friends with some famous people, and she's a brewhaw. So
27:10
Speaker 2: technically I already know somebody like this I'm just saying
27:14
Speaker 2: she worked it in a way. I was like, all
27:16
Speaker 2: seems legit seems normal. So she unwound her story over
27:21
Speaker 2: many many meetings, like we were just talking about and
27:23
Speaker 2: later on, in a visit to her apartment, Walton glimpsed
27:26
Speaker 2: at a small frame printed on what Smith said was
27:30
Speaker 2: the Constitution of Ireland. So it's her last name is Smith.
27:33
Speaker 2: So he looked at this frame and then he was like,
27:35
Speaker 2: what is this And he was like, oh, this is
27:37
Speaker 2: the Constitution of Ireland, you know, casual hanging in my
27:40
Speaker 2: living room. She said that her great uncle had signed it,
27:43
Speaker 2: she explained, pointing out his signature. Later, she said that
27:47
Speaker 2: the same great uncle had just died and stood to inherit.
27:51
Speaker 2: She's sit inherent part of his twenty five million dollar
27:53
Speaker 2: euro or excuse me, a million euro inheritance, which is
27:57
Speaker 2: about twenty seven point five million dollars mm hmm. So,
28:01
Speaker 2: in keeping with her image as a wealthy and worldly heiress,
28:05
Speaker 2: she occasionally showed Walton texts and emails from her friends,
28:08
Speaker 2: like Ashley Judd, whom she had met in college. Ashley,
28:11
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
28:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, truly that her name is dragged all over this.
28:17
Speaker 2: Also like, is she like read labeling somebody's number in
28:21
Speaker 2: her phone Ashley Judd and texting her fribubly.
28:25
Speaker 3: But also what a wild person to pick no shade
28:29
Speaker 3: to Ashley Judd. But she's not well, I guess, honestly,
28:33
Speaker 3: what a smart peck because she's not super famous. But
28:36
Speaker 3: like we all know Ashley Judd's name.
28:38
Speaker 2: Well, didn't Harvey Weinstein her career? I think that's why
28:43
Speaker 2: Ashley Judd, girl, I could be absolutely wrong about that.
28:46
Speaker 2: Let me say allegedly allegedly, and by allegedly, I mean
28:50
Speaker 2: I thought that. But last time I came on here
28:54
Speaker 2: and I said that Michael Jackson's song at the end
28:56
Speaker 2: where they go Mama Sam and Masada Mama Gusa, I
28:59
Speaker 2: was like, it's actually words, guys, it means I'm gonna
29:01
Speaker 2: keep going on. I'm not gonna stop. I'm gonna keep going.
29:06
Speaker 2: I definitely don't anybody that was true And they're like, no,
29:09
Speaker 2: it's not.
29:11
Speaker 3: That is I love that you just up on her
29:13
Speaker 3: lying of people. People be telling their friends facts that
29:16
Speaker 3: they learn from Lacy and then they're like, girl, that's
29:19
Speaker 3: not it, that's not no, she's lying to you that.
29:22
Speaker 2: The scam facts are true, guys, we researched. I swear,
29:25
Speaker 2: but anything that I say off the cuff could be
29:29
Speaker 2: a lie. But it's not a lie. I believe it.
29:32
Speaker 2: I remember. That's how the truth works. I taught you at.
29:34
Speaker 3: That's what I honestly believe.
29:37
Speaker 2: So due to her family's money, she said that she
29:39
Speaker 2: didn't need a job, but preferred to keep busy, working
29:42
Speaker 2: for luxury tour operators uh sure, Pacific Islands dot com
29:47
Speaker 2: and later as a psychic. In the time Walton knew her,
29:50
Speaker 2: she also had several plastic surgeries, including what he recalls
29:54
Speaker 2: as a nose job, a breast enhancement, and some LiPo section.
30:00
Speaker 2: She's an LA girl. Yes that lay snatched gating lip fillers.
30:07
Speaker 2: Uh huh, y as you do. She's she's a housewife.
30:10
Speaker 2: I love it, not mad at all. So they have
30:12
Speaker 2: this really close friendship. He opens up to her her
30:16
Speaker 2: about his family and about his sexuality and how some
30:20
Speaker 2: people didn't accept him. She understood how painful alienation from
30:24
Speaker 2: family members, could be, she said, revealing that her cousins
30:27
Speaker 2: were trying to get her disinherited the drama, so she
30:32
Speaker 2: showed him nasty texts and emails from these cousins, especially
30:36
Speaker 2: one named Fenton, who occasionally wrote in Gaelic. Walton was
30:41
Speaker 2: enthralled with the family drama, so she basically was like,
30:44
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if this was like all the
30:47
Speaker 2: plot of several Tyler Perry movies that she is see.
30:51
Speaker 3: She puts, I'm gonna do my own. I mean, Tyler
30:55
Speaker 3: doesn't take too much time to produce them. I think
30:57
Speaker 3: she took more time to produce a Tyler Perry movie
31:00
Speaker 3: then Tyler takes to produce his own. To produce these emails,
31:03
Speaker 3: you might be right, and I'm not being shady, because
31:05
Speaker 3: he very quickly shoots seasons in the matter of weeks,
31:10
Speaker 3: and he does which is wild.
31:11
Speaker 2: And I know actors who work for him, and they
31:13
Speaker 2: work very hard. It was like shout out to y'all
31:17
Speaker 2: because who long days, long long days. And wigs the
31:21
Speaker 2: wig wigs on wigs on wigs, the wigs. Just if
31:27
Speaker 2: you could manifest struggle into a hair piece, those wigs.
31:34
Speaker 2: They're rough bub run. So basically, she moves to a
31:43
Speaker 2: new loft and they call each other all the time,
31:46
Speaker 2: tell each other that they love each other. So now
31:49
Speaker 2: let's get into her inheritance by April twenty fifteen, homegirl
31:57
Speaker 2: had come to Walton with tears, cats skating down her face,
32:02
Speaker 2: asking for a loan. So the first loan that she
32:07
Speaker 2: got was for forty two hundred dollars. Then she came
32:11
Speaker 2: back and says she needed another fifty eight hundred dollars
32:14
Speaker 2: to pay rent at her new loft, which is crazy
32:18
Speaker 2: because she had an inheritance.
32:20
Speaker 3: Right yes, and she's a psychic, so she didn't see
32:22
Speaker 3: it coming, and she didn't move before she couldn't afford
32:24
Speaker 3: to pay it.
32:25
Speaker 2: She did not move before she could afford to pay it.
32:28
Speaker 3: Okay, it out.
32:29
Speaker 2: She said that her great uncle's will contain a claw
32:31
Speaker 2: stating that anyone with a convicted felony would be exempt
32:34
Speaker 2: from the will. Walton voiced his fears that Smith's cousins
32:37
Speaker 2: might frame her to push her out of the will.
32:41
Speaker 2: So this is one. So in twenty fourteen, walton speculation
32:44
Speaker 2: seemed to come true. He received a collect call from
32:47
Speaker 2: a detention facility that Smith had been arrested on charges
32:50
Speaker 2: that she had stolen about two hundred thousand dollars from
32:52
Speaker 2: Pacific Islands dot Com, which is the travel agency that
32:55
Speaker 2: she worked for. So she basically sold this his life, like,
33:00
Speaker 2: my cousins are setting me up. That call that you
33:04
Speaker 2: got from jail, that's fencing in them? Was it in Gaelic?
33:10
Speaker 3: I mean this is exhaustly honestly, the amount of work
33:14
Speaker 3: she put in, she could have just gotten herself a job.
33:18
Speaker 2: This is this is work, this is what. That's the
33:20
Speaker 2: thing about scamming. People think scamming is not work. Scamming
33:23
Speaker 2: is an employment. It's a profession. I'm honestly upset that
33:27
Speaker 2: scammers can't get unemployment right now because they have been
33:30
Speaker 2: self employed. And you know that's something we need to
33:33
Speaker 2: work on. H they won't. They need they stimulus too.
33:36
Speaker 2: We need a scam.
33:37
Speaker 3: Stimulus for robbery.
33:40
Speaker 2: Okay, how you gonna be doing robbery when everybody in
33:42
Speaker 2: their house?
33:43
Speaker 3: Truly, I was just thinking that the other day. I
33:46
Speaker 3: was like, how do you rob a house if everybody
33:49
Speaker 3: is home?
33:50
Speaker 2: So, just like hairdressers can't do hair in person, robbers
33:53
Speaker 2: can't do their normal robbers exactly. So everybody's really hurting
33:59
Speaker 2: right now. So I feel for I feel for my
34:02
Speaker 2: I do. So cut back to She's crying to him,
34:07
Speaker 2: like I need this money. I gotta go down to
34:10
Speaker 2: the Attorney's office because they done froze my bank accounts,
34:14
Speaker 2: the LA District attorney froze my coins up because they
34:16
Speaker 2: think that I did this robbery at this job that
34:18
Speaker 2: I definitely worked at, But really was my cousins who
34:21
Speaker 2: had set me up. But for some reason the jail
34:23
Speaker 2: called you. But it was my cousins who had put
34:27
Speaker 2: me in jail from Ireland. This makes sense.
34:32
Speaker 3: I mean, the favor that he felt for that is
34:34
Speaker 3: so wild.
34:35
Speaker 2: She was thrown a lot at him at once. It
34:36
Speaker 2: was probably a lot to process, yeah, you know, and
34:39
Speaker 2: he's like, but that's my pastel friend, right, and she
34:43
Speaker 2: he came out to her about his lifestyle like she
34:45
Speaker 2: accepted him. So they had an emotional relationship. So it
34:49
Speaker 2: makes sense. So he wrote her a cashier's check, which
34:53
Speaker 2: those are the checks that.
34:54
Speaker 3: Go that's money that's liquid.
34:57
Speaker 2: So he agreed that. She said when she regained acces
35:00
Speaker 2: to her bank account or received her inheritance, she would
35:02
Speaker 2: pay him back. In the meantime, she moved back into
35:05
Speaker 2: Bunker Hill Towers for a relatively cheaper rent. With a
35:08
Speaker 2: case still ongoing, she asked him for another thirty eight
35:11
Speaker 2: hundred dollars the next month, for rent. Over the year,
35:16
Speaker 2: as it passed on and dragged on, with Walton receiving
35:18
Speaker 2: frequent updates, she was still asking him for money. So
35:21
Speaker 2: in September twenty sixteen, she finally came and just really
35:24
Speaker 2: got the bag. She said that, Hey, they're gonna give
35:27
Speaker 2: me a plea agreement for this money that I didn't
35:30
Speaker 2: steal from my job, that my definitely my cousins had
35:34
Speaker 2: framed me from a different country. Great plea agreement. I'm
35:37
Speaker 2: getting fifty thousand dollars and served jail time, but I'm
35:42
Speaker 2: gonna need fifty thousand dollars from you.
35:45
Speaker 3: And this man gave her fifty thousand dollars.
35:48
Speaker 2: He forked over nearly sixty thousand dollars. Yeah, and he
35:52
Speaker 2: also loaned her two thousand dollars for the lawyer to
35:54
Speaker 2: help her avoid eviction. Because then she wasn't paying rent.
35:58
Speaker 3: Then what was she spending the money on. This man
36:01
Speaker 3: needed to ask questions. I would be like, what how, No,
36:05
Speaker 3: he didn't ask a six so he just had sixty
36:07
Speaker 3: thousand dollars laying around. This man is a smart man
36:11
Speaker 3: to have that much cash, Like, well, he worked a.
36:13
Speaker 2: TV so you know he might have been getting the checks,
36:17
Speaker 2: I mean, damn, And he's why he believed her. He
36:21
Speaker 2: believed that she was going to repay him. But one
36:23
Speaker 2: day during her February twenty seventeen sentence, when Walton logged
36:27
Speaker 2: onto the jail's website to schedule a visit, he clicked
36:29
Speaker 2: on her profile at the La County Sheriff's website and
36:32
Speaker 2: he noticed something strange. She had been charged and convicted
36:36
Speaker 2: with a felony, so she was trying to avoid eviction.
36:40
Speaker 2: She eventually did have to go to jail, and then
36:43
Speaker 2: when he was going to go see her, probably put
36:45
Speaker 2: some money on her books for some ramen noodles and stuff.
36:48
Speaker 2: He looked and they were like, yeah, she was convicted
36:50
Speaker 2: of a felony, felony, like she was doing crime. Crime.
36:54
Speaker 2: So he took a day off work traveled to the
36:57
Speaker 2: Airport Courthouse near lax to draw up the records on
36:59
Speaker 2: her case. When he started looking through the records, he
37:02
Speaker 2: realized that everything that she told him was say it
37:04
Speaker 2: with me, guys, a lie. The plea agreement meant that
37:09
Speaker 2: she had pleaded guilty that her bank accounts had never
37:12
Speaker 2: been frozen. They weren't frozen, they just were empty, empty
37:17
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start telling you my bank account frozen if
37:19
Speaker 2: there ain't no money in there. That's it, basically is
37:23
Speaker 2: the bank won't let me make transfers anymore because they
37:25
Speaker 2: said it's no money in there, so they stopped. They
37:28
Speaker 2: froze my transfer they frozen.
37:30
Speaker 3: So if you want to, you know, paypound me some.
37:33
Speaker 3: You want to venmo me something so I can get
37:35
Speaker 3: my transfers back up, that's my god, that's excellent.
37:39
Speaker 2: Worry if you would have venmoed me money so I
37:41
Speaker 2: could get my transfers back up, that's the phrasing. That
37:47
Speaker 2: is excellent phrasing for I don't have no money, Send
37:49
Speaker 2: me money so I get start spending money again. That's amazing.
37:55
Speaker 2: So her plea agreement was for forty thousand dollars, not fifty,
37:58
Speaker 2: and it included one hundred and eight day jail sentence
38:01
Speaker 2: later reduced to thirty days. Oh god, So basically she
38:05
Speaker 2: skimmed him. She's like up, she was like, I need
38:08
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars so I can get this time served.
38:10
Speaker 2: Then she just kept a little tense so she could
38:12
Speaker 2: get her transfers back up. So she was like some
38:14
Speaker 2: for the court, some honey, some for me. On the
38:18
Speaker 2: day of the release, he picked her up, which I'm like, bro,
38:21
Speaker 2: why are you even still fucking yeah? Why are you
38:23
Speaker 2: still involved? Because I think he was trying to get
38:25
Speaker 2: his money back. So he was like, he's been lying
38:28
Speaker 2: to me this entire time about everything. The next day,
38:31
Speaker 2: he filed a police report alleging a total theft of
38:34
Speaker 2: seventy five thousand dollars. Right so, Walton's landlord shared that
38:39
Speaker 2: Homegirl also was twelve thousand dollars behind in apartment payments
38:43
Speaker 2: and had delayed them further because she says she had
38:46
Speaker 2: cancer and that her disability insurance wasn't arriving on time.
38:51
Speaker 2: She was running all she my god, so where was
38:56
Speaker 2: the money for rent gone? Because remember he helped her
38:59
Speaker 2: with an eviction law quote unquote two thousand dollars.
39:02
Speaker 3: Well, that's how she had that expensive shoes and shit,
39:04
Speaker 3: she was just buying stuff.
39:06
Speaker 2: She just can't buy shoes. She's funny. I love her.
39:10
Speaker 2: They were like, man, we're gonna put you in the street.
39:12
Speaker 2: She was like, okay, but I really need these lubatants. Also,
39:16
Speaker 2: my cancer hurts right now, so I might cancer. HER's
39:19
Speaker 2: so bad, I better go buy a shoe. That's the cure. Yeah.
39:22
Speaker 2: I can't actually talk about this right now because ooh
39:24
Speaker 2: that was my cancer. Okay, so I'm gonna close the
39:26
Speaker 2: door now, bye bye. So background checks reveal that she'd
39:31
Speaker 2: also been charged with writing bad checks, fraud in Tennessee,
39:36
Speaker 2: in Florida, a grand theft, among other kunts. She was
39:40
Speaker 2: also doing San Andreas. I love her, Yes, And then
39:45
Speaker 2: the jury found that Smith was guilty of grand theft
39:47
Speaker 2: and sentenced her to five years in jail. So this
39:51
Speaker 2: is on top of one hundred and eighty days that
39:52
Speaker 2: she got from robbing her former employment. She did end
39:55
Speaker 2: up having to go to jail for robbing her homeboy.
39:58
Speaker 2: And man, there's a lot to unp there that we
40:00
Speaker 2: just don't have time to pack, you guys unpacking in
40:02
Speaker 2: your cars wherever you are. But uh, this irishwoman is
40:08
Speaker 2: a queen. I love her. That's it.
40:11
Speaker 3: That's like, over the course of four years, you stole
40:15
Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollars. That's pretty good. That's twenty a year.
40:21
Speaker 3: That's nice, tax free, that is twenty thousand dollars a year.
40:24
Speaker 3: That's like pretty decent. And I'm sure that's something only
40:27
Speaker 3: scam she was running on people. Obviously she can rent scam.
40:31
Speaker 3: She had grand theft, she had like her whole life
40:34
Speaker 3: was a grip.
40:35
Speaker 2: She doing it. She's doing big things. So for Scammer
40:38
Speaker 2: of the Week, we just want to highlight a king,
40:40
Speaker 2: a Floridian, a Florida man. You know, if you really
40:43
Speaker 2: just want trash, if you really just want I can
40:46
Speaker 2: say that I lived in Florida. It's okay for me
40:47
Speaker 2: to say that a Florida man bought one hundred and
40:50
Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars Porsche with a check that he printed
40:52
Speaker 2: from home on his computer. I don't even know you
40:57
Speaker 2: think of this.
41:00
Speaker 3: But also the dealership was like, ah, it looks right,
41:06
Speaker 3: but what look?
41:07
Speaker 2: Times are hard. They trying to sell these motherfucking Porsches.
41:10
Speaker 2: They said, anybody want to come in here? Yes, so
41:12
Speaker 2: forty two year old Casey William Kelly. I love that
41:15
Speaker 2: he has three first names. That's what I'm talking about.
41:18
Speaker 2: Robbery was charged with a grand theft of a motor
41:21
Speaker 2: vehicle and uttering a false banknote. According to the Walton
41:24
Speaker 2: County Sheriff's Office, he allegedly handed over a cashier's check
41:27
Speaker 2: that he printed from his home computer to buy the car.
41:29
Speaker 2: The car was later reported stolen to Okaloosa County sheriff Office.
41:33
Speaker 2: So he so also we just talked about in the
41:35
Speaker 2: last story, like you do a cashier check. That's as
41:37
Speaker 2: good as cash.
41:38
Speaker 3: Pretty much, if it looks real, if it looks legit.
41:42
Speaker 2: So this is what he did. Shortly after purchasing the
41:46
Speaker 2: German luxury car. Authority say that Kelly then attempted to
41:48
Speaker 2: buy three Rolex watches he was loan. Later ride, he said,
41:52
Speaker 2: where my printer at I get the ink jet? Been
41:55
Speaker 2: so funny, that is so fucking funny. He handed over
41:58
Speaker 2: a fraudulent check for six see one thousand dollars to
42:01
Speaker 2: a jeweler. However, the jeweler kept the watches until they
42:04
Speaker 2: could determine if the check would clear see because jewelry.
42:08
Speaker 2: You know, he's a white man.
42:09
Speaker 3: People don't fuck with jewelry because jewelry goes up in
42:13
Speaker 3: value sometimes.
42:14
Speaker 2: So like like a vintage Rolex, those go for like
42:18
Speaker 2: a like a ton of cash. So smart on them.
42:20
Speaker 3: But also with the car, I would have done a lease.
42:24
Speaker 3: I would have given them a fake address. I would
42:26
Speaker 3: have done I mean, you probably had to put some
42:28
Speaker 3: money down so you get the fraudulent check for that,
42:31
Speaker 3: give them a dummy address, and then never park the
42:34
Speaker 3: car near your house.
42:35
Speaker 2: And be like, I don't know what you're talking about.
42:37
Speaker 2: That's a good one, because then it's also like they
42:39
Speaker 2: might contact you like, oh, this check didn't go through,
42:41
Speaker 2: but you we got this lise set up, We got
42:43
Speaker 2: all your info and then you could drive it around
42:45
Speaker 2: for longer. He's just straight up yes, like stealing it. Okay,
42:49
Speaker 2: Now I have the perfect plan.
42:50
Speaker 3: Okay, so we get a fake driver's license with your picture,
42:54
Speaker 3: different name, different address, because I don't think they do
42:57
Speaker 3: any sort of background checks. So if you can make
43:00
Speaker 3: fraudulent checks, write that check for the down payment on
43:03
Speaker 3: the lease, how will they get to you. They can't,
43:06
Speaker 3: They can't find you. And then the bank is on
43:09
Speaker 3: the hook because when you lease a car, the bank
43:12
Speaker 3: buys the car. You pay the bank, so you are
43:16
Speaker 3: literally out of it.
43:18
Speaker 2: Everyone go out there and print your cashier's check. Immy nominated.
43:22
Speaker 2: The cole buyer has taught you how to do this scam.
43:25
Speaker 2: That was her ted talk. It was free for you
43:30
Speaker 2: and for me. I just I think also the jeweler
43:34
Speaker 2: probably caught on because jewelers deal with criminals all the time, like,
43:37
Speaker 2: oh yeah, jewelry, like the three rolexes for what for?
43:43
Speaker 2: What for? Why for? How? So you know what? But
43:48
Speaker 2: shout out to a three first named king, Casey William
43:51
Speaker 2: Kelly because I don't even know how you thought to
43:53
Speaker 2: print out a casher check at your home. Probably been
43:55
Speaker 2: saying the side too long, coronavirus. She was like, I
43:58
Speaker 2: could print out of cash your check.
43:59
Speaker 3: From or maybe he saw Catch Me if you can
44:02
Speaker 3: that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio running all them scams and
44:05
Speaker 3: he was like, I can do that.
44:06
Speaker 2: I'm cute listen and he did and did he did
44:09
Speaker 2: get the car off the lots. So I'm proud of
44:11
Speaker 2: this king, but we too, we have reached the end
44:14
Speaker 2: of the show.
44:15
Speaker 3: Nicole Lazy, thank you so much for having me back. Honestly,
44:19
Speaker 3: it's just a treat to talk to.
44:20
Speaker 2: You is thank you for being here. Seriously, Wait, where
44:24
Speaker 2: do you want to be found?
44:26
Speaker 3: I'm hopefully engaged with a nice man now. You can
44:31
Speaker 3: find me on Instagram, Twitter at Nicole Bayer. I have
44:34
Speaker 3: other podcasts, Why Won't You Date Me? Best Friends, ninety
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44:39
Speaker 3: talked about drag Race Newcomers with Lauren Lapkis where now
44:42
Speaker 3: we are watching Lord of the Rings and good fucking Lord,
44:45
Speaker 3: that movie's a scam.
44:46
Speaker 2: They're too fucking long. They should have been broken up.
44:49
Speaker 3: But yeah, you can just Oh and I have a book,
44:51
Speaker 3: Very Fat, Very Brave. It's a self help guide for
44:53
Speaker 3: fat women. But if you're a thin and you have low.
44:56
Speaker 2: Self esteem, I guess maybe you'll help. I don't know
45:00
Speaker 2: what a sales pitch there. You hate yourself? No no, no, no, no,
45:06
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45:09
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45:11
Speaker 2: But it's a good book for just confidence in general.
45:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gotten like little comebacks if someone insults you.
45:19
Speaker 3: The main takeaway of the book, I'll just tell you,
45:21
Speaker 3: I prefer if you bought it is like if someone
45:24
Speaker 3: says something about your body, it means you're powerful because
45:26
Speaker 3: that person had to stop their day to tell you
45:28
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45:31
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45:36
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