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Bechoros 32 · Daf Yomi with Aaron Cohen

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SPEAKER_01: The Horizdav Lamid base, and we're gonna start with it by the words my braisa on the bottom of Lamidal from the base where we finish.
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SPEAKER_01: Shai G, who uh just had a rape business.
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SPEAKER_01: This is Mazatov, who?
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SPEAKER_01: Shai Gomes.
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SPEAKER_01: Mazeltov, huge.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's commitment right there.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome.
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SPEAKER_00: Boy and girl.
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SPEAKER_01: Mazutov, didn't you know the Reshkhan is a is a Mile also.
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SPEAKER_00: Shimon, where are you?
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SPEAKER_00: Shimon, where are you?
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SPEAKER_00: Now you know the pressure's on, and and anyone in the Kilo.
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SPEAKER_01: Have one one option as Mile.
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SPEAKER_01: And automatically booted from the Kilo if you don't choose them.
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SPEAKER_01: Ask, ask around.
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SPEAKER_01: There's people that vouch for it.
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SPEAKER_00: It was good.
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SPEAKER_01: I've done other people also, not only we did.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, no.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't advertise to go around.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't charge anything, by the way.
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SPEAKER_01: No, not allowed to charge.
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SPEAKER_01: No, no, I've done it.
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SPEAKER_01: There's no no there's no suggestion.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm also not allowed to charge.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the scale about it.
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SPEAKER_01: You could keep your 800 shekels.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Love and bees.
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SPEAKER_01: We're gonna start by my brace that we left off yesterday as Penny rudely stopped us in the middle and he didn't even come today.
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SPEAKER_01: That's chutzma.
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SPEAKER_01: That's chutzma.
1:24
SPEAKER_01: But just uh stop right here, I'm out.
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SPEAKER_01: So okay, fine.
1:31
SPEAKER_01: So just uh we'll try to sum up the end of yesterday's together and then continue for today.
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SPEAKER_01: So we were going on, we're just uh I'm not gonna uh read from the top of the Ahmed, but we're recording the mission of Chutzmin a Bihar mina maiser shaanias in the Bailey.
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SPEAKER_01: Bihar and Myser, you're not allowed to sell, you're not allowed to cause a certain level of low bizarre like you would to other cutchim where the Hana is gonna go to Hektish because over here the Hana goes to the Baileb.
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SPEAKER_01: Since they're the ones selling it, you have uh Htimtim so where you're able to sell a Bihar and Myser, and therefore the Hanah is gonna you're gonna be you're gonna be able to keep it.
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SPEAKER_01: That being said, we're not gonna allow you now to go sell it in the Ital San and the Shok Shachtan and the Shok Tri like normal Hulin, which is a certain level of bizahin, because in the end of the day, Hektish is not the one benefiting off it.
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SPEAKER_01: You are benefiting it, says the Gemara.
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SPEAKER_01: Bishlamah, I'm just reading these words, I'm gonna skip back to where we left off.
2:14
SPEAKER_01: But Bishlam Bharbizudullah misdaban of basimisdabin.
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SPEAKER_01: It says the Gemara, where do we find that you're allowed to sell Mayser Bihlal?
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SPEAKER_01: Mayser Bahama.
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SPEAKER_01: We understand that you're allowed to sell a bihar.
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SPEAKER_01: You might not be able to sell it in the shuk, but you could sell it in your house, not in a more bakovitika way.
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SPEAKER_01: But Mayser Bahema, you're never allowed to sell.
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SPEAKER_01: So says the Gemara, this question, this question Ravshesha's had, and he went to sleep in the night, and he woke up in the morning and he found the Brays.
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SPEAKER_01: So he found the Braissa.
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SPEAKER_01: He told her Vidi, Rvidhi went to show one to the base madras.
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SPEAKER_01: He started saying over the Braissa, Ravshesh put him in Khairem, because he didn't say it over in his name, then you have to say it over in someone's name because if says of that was where we left off yesterday.
2:52
SPEAKER_01: But we'll continue a few lines of what we read already.
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SPEAKER_01: My braisa, the Gemar says.
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SPEAKER_01: My Braissa, I don't count the lines, about a quarter away from the bottom.
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SPEAKER_01: So my braisa, what's this braisa that he woke up and found the tarts to this question?
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SPEAKER_01: The Tanya, we have a Braissa.
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SPEAKER_01: So the Braissa says basically that what the Ukimtah is that we're talking about that it's Mayser Behemah that belongs to Yislamim.
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SPEAKER_01: You're right.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the easy answer, by the way.
3:18
SPEAKER_01: What's the question?
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SPEAKER_01: The question is where do we find that you're able Bihl to sell uh Maister Behemah?
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SPEAKER_01: You're never allowed to do such a thing.
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SPEAKER_01: And therefore, what are we talking about when we say Handyas in the Baylam?
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SPEAKER_01: The answer is yeah, there is a chatimsa, and it's by Islamim.
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SPEAKER_01: A Maister Behemoth that belongs to Islamim, we know we always look out for the money in the Islamim, and that's a special rule where we're gonna allow them to sell it.
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SPEAKER_01: Aye, if it's a Dindarisa, how do we allow Islamim?
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SPEAKER_01: We don't allow them to be over Dindarisa because of the Ashova Saveda that we call it to get back to the Islamim.
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SPEAKER_01: The answer is we're gonna see in a minute.
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SPEAKER_01: But the Braissa says it's a little bit of a cryptic Bryce.
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SPEAKER_01: The Bryce says, Maysr Behemoth Sami Maikhnah.
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SPEAKER_01: So you're allowed to sell uh Maister Behemoth that belongs to Islamim, Maister Bahimah that you shachhted, then Mavliya, you can't sell it straight up, but rather you could sell it behavla.
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SPEAKER_01: Meaning, what's the main part of the Maister Behemoth you're not allowed to sell?
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SPEAKER_01: The the the basar.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the main point over here.
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SPEAKER_01: So the basar, you're allowed to sell only behavla when you're selling the other parts.
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SPEAKER_01: The ira, the khabba, the bagidum, the bakarna, the skins and the milk and the other parts of the animal that aren't the basar.
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SPEAKER_01: So when you sell those things, instead of selling them for a dollar, sell for ten dollars, and include the basar for free.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the point.
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SPEAKER_01: That's called havla.
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SPEAKER_01: When you're buying something inflated, you're paying an inflated price because it really includes something else that you really want, but you're not straight up paying for the basar.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a roundabout way that if it's already the bottom la bavla, sometimes it's gonna be butr.
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SPEAKER_01: But this braisa, we're about to say my kelmer.
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SPEAKER_01: What does a biklal mean?
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SPEAKER_01: Why?
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SPEAKER_01: Because the first case of the braisa told us you could sell it straight up.
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SPEAKER_01: The next case of the Brahsah told us that you could only sell it by Vla.
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SPEAKER_01: So which one is it?
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SPEAKER_01: Now you're gonna tell me the first case of the Bryce that sounds like before Shita, it can't be.
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SPEAKER_01: Because before Shita you're never allowed to sell bichal.
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SPEAKER_01: And therefore, the first the ratio the Brahza must be the achar shit also.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's the achrishhita, and we said you're allowed to sell uh Maïsa Behima that belongs to Yislam.
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SPEAKER_01: And then the Brahsa continues, and if you shachhted it, which is the same case as the first one, you could say you could sell it behavla.
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SPEAKER_01: So May Komar, what are we talking about?
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SPEAKER_01: Can you sell it straight up if it belongs to Islam?
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SPEAKER_01: Or is it only Bahavlah says Nikomara omr-abaya?
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SPEAKER_01: It says Hokhi Kiomar.
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SPEAKER_01: This is what we mean to say.
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SPEAKER_01: Maysabahima shahislame.
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SPEAKER_01: If it belongs to Islamim, then you sell it Behavla, Michlaudigla.
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SPEAKER_01: That implies that what?
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SPEAKER_01: If it belongs to a regular Gadl, not a Yaslim, then you're not even allowed to sell it Bahavla.
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SPEAKER_01: You can't even do this roundabout way.
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SPEAKER_01: Maishnah me'd the tan.
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SPEAKER_01: Says the Gamar, really?
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SPEAKER_01: If it belongs to a Gadl, you're not allowed to sell Bahavla.
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SPEAKER_01: Why would it be different than the following?
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SPEAKER_01: What's the following?
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SPEAKER_01: We're gonna bring a case, an example in the Mishnah, where I'll show you a case where you're not allowed to sell something, but Bahavlah it's gonna be mutter.
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SPEAKER_01: And again, of course it has to be only Asadan.
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SPEAKER_01: Because if it was Asur Day Rai, so Havla would never help you, even for your assignment.
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SPEAKER_01: And therefore, it must be only Asadban.
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SPEAKER_01: So says Gamar is something that's only Asadan, they usually weren't geyser if you sell it Bahavla, if you do it in this roundabout way.
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SPEAKER_01: And therefore, why wouldn't you be allowed to sell it Bahavla if it's only the Narabanan, even for Gedalin?
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SPEAKER_01: That's the question.
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SPEAKER_01: Where do we find that you're allowed to sell something, even though you're not generally allowed to sell it, you're allowed to sell it by Havla.
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SPEAKER_01: Where do we find such a thing?
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SPEAKER_01: Halakh Lula mecha verbish is someone who buys a lulaf from his friend on Shvias.
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SPEAKER_01: Shmitta.
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SPEAKER_01: You're not allowed to do uh business with uh Shemitah produce, but this guy's selling a Lulav, by the way, which is totally fine because it's not a pre.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not the pre.
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SPEAKER_01: That's not the point over here.
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SPEAKER_01: The point is gonna be the Ester, because the Estrig is the pre.
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SPEAKER_01: The Lulav is just uh the leaf, there's no problem in selling that.
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SPEAKER_01: But nicely, Estrig Mematana.
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SPEAKER_01: The Esterg is not allowed to sell, so the Estrig gives him the Matana.
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SPEAKER_01: He's not allowed to sell him the Estrig because the Estrig is a pre on Shvias.
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SPEAKER_01: You're not allowed to do uh screw Shves.
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SPEAKER_01: The feature in a rationale like Kab Shviz, because you're not allowed to buy it on Shviz.
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SPEAKER_01: Mavina Bun, we asked on that.
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SPEAKER_01: Lloyd Ratsalita Mematona Maya.
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SPEAKER_01: What if he doesn't want to give the estric for free?
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SPEAKER_01: I don't want to give you this uh thousand dollar ester for uh for as a matana.
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SPEAKER_01: Rama Ravuna, Ravuna said, we have an eight sub Mavlia Lloyd Estrig Belulov.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what you do?
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SPEAKER_01: You're Mavli'at.
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SPEAKER_01: You pay more for the Lulav and you give him the Estrig for free.
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SPEAKER_01: That's called Avla.
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SPEAKER_01: You're Mavli'at bideme Lulov.
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SPEAKER_01: You pay more for the Lulav disproportionately, and you give him the asterisk for free, but everyone knows what's going on.
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SPEAKER_01: You're really just being uh Mavli'aiid and the same money.
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SPEAKER_01: And therefore, what do we see?
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SPEAKER_01: You're not allowed to sell something, but we let you do it, bavlah.
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SPEAKER_01: So says Gemara, also over here, why don't we let you sell uh Maister Behemir bavla?
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SPEAKER_01: If it's really only Ansidor Abandon, says Gemara, I'll tell you why.
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SPEAKER_01: This is a different Husslem Le Mukha Milsa.
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SPEAKER_01: Over there by the Lulav, it's not muchach 100% that you're paying really for the Esteric.
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SPEAKER_01: Why?
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SPEAKER_01: Because people buy packages sometimes, you're paying for the Dalinminim and you're throwing in an Esteric.
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SPEAKER_01: It's very possible that you paid for an expensive Lulav and you got the Esteric for free.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not muchach that you were really paying for the Esther.
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SPEAKER_01: Whereas over here, ha ha mucha milsa over here, what's the main point?
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SPEAKER_01: The main point is always the buser.
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SPEAKER_01: You want the busser.
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SPEAKER_01: What are you paying all of a sudden a thousand dollars for the for bones?
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SPEAKER_01: You're not paying for the by the way, bones is not the one thing we didn't say, and we're gonna ask on that.
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SPEAKER_01: But what are you paying specifically for the gidim now so much money?
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SPEAKER_01: You're obviously paying for the bus, it's mucha milsa, and that's why over here it's not gonna be allowed.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: But Amar Rava Raba doesn't like that.
7:43
SPEAKER_01: Who was that?
7:44
SPEAKER_01: So that was Abai.
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SPEAKER_01: That was Abai's answer to Mike Kyomar, the way they explained the mission.
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SPEAKER_01: The Braissa that was very uh hard to understand.
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SPEAKER_01: So Amarava Raba says, Really, Abaya, according to your reasoning, that you really said it's uh the braisa means uh the first part is uh Yasaimim, and then we're talking about a goggle next.
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SPEAKER_01: Or rather.
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SPEAKER_01: Sorry one second.
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SPEAKER_01: Meaning it's really one thing.
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SPEAKER_01: We didn't explain abaya so much, but Aba'ya meant to say that really it's it's hard to read aba'ay into the braisa, and that's what Rav's gonna comment on.
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SPEAKER_01: Because Abba'ay basically said we add two parts to the braisa, but it really means one thing.
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SPEAKER_01: The second part of the braisa is explaining the first part.
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SPEAKER_01: That when you're selling a Bahar, when you're selling a Maïsa Behema that belongs to Yisai, you allow to do it Bahavla.
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SPEAKER_01: It's really one alaq in the Brahsah but Rava says, Imkin mait of behema trizimni lamali.
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SPEAKER_01: Read the braisa.
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SPEAKER_01: It says Maïsa Behema two times.
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SPEAKER_01: It sounds like it's talking about two different cases, not just one long one case about explaining itself, explaining the raisha.
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SPEAKER_01: It doesn't really make sense the way you're reading it.
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SPEAKER_01: So Alamarava, that's why Rabba gives a different explanation of the Brahsah.
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SPEAKER_01: How he comes, is that you have to read the Brahza.
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SPEAKER_01: May're yes, I'm gonna take a dark.
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SPEAKER_01: If it's only the abandon, meanshum yasmil gazaraban, as we always know.
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SPEAKER_01: The assaiman, they're allowed to sell it straight up, even without havla.
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SPEAKER_01: They could go take the bait mehima and sell it.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, May Summehem, the Goddom belongs to a regular Godless, and Mavliya the airbag the hava ibidabana, then you can do it bavla when you're selling the the skins of the animal, then you're mavliya also the passer in it, and bihavlah, even for a godlow it's gonna be okay.
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SPEAKER_01: But Umar Rav, Rabba said, Mina, minullah, how do I know this?
9:15
SPEAKER_01: How do I know what?
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SPEAKER_01: So, in order for Rabba to say that even for a godl you're gonna be able to do it, or even for a Yasim, you're gonna be able to sell it straight up, obviously it's drabana.
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SPEAKER_01: So, how do we know it's drabbana?
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SPEAKER_01: Because we have the pasik that says, Lo yi goan.
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SPEAKER_01: The posik by Maestra Mahima says, you're not allowed to do anything with it.
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SPEAKER_01: Vihayo, if you try uh loyahlifenu la yomira, say the pasik says, you're not allowed to swap it out for a different animal.
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SPEAKER_01: Let's say the tenth one was a nice uh shamanidic animal that you want to keep you're not allowed to switch it out for a different one.
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SPEAKER_01: And if you try the posik says, what's gonna happen?
9:46
SPEAKER_01: We know Masakh is tmura.
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SPEAKER_01: Joke's on you.
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SPEAKER_01: Both are gonna be qadrish now.
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SPEAKER_01: If you try transferring the kadush onto a different animal.
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SPEAKER_01: So the pasik says, you're not allowed to redeem it, biklaal.
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SPEAKER_01: Immasi oysatmurah.
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SPEAKER_01: When does tmurah apply?
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SPEAKER_01: When will this make a tmurah that now they're both gonna be qaddesh?
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SPEAKER_01: Mihhaim, that's only michaim that you have that tmurah could generally apply.
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SPEAKER_01: And therefore, since I have tmurah and lo ghyl in the same pasik, in the same context, in one saying, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So loi goel probably only applies when tmurah applies.
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SPEAKER_01: So when does tmurah apply michaim?
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SPEAKER_01: A messy and nigga, and therefore when can't you sell it?
10:23
SPEAKER_01: We're understanding that means right now?
10:25
SPEAKER_01: So the isar mikhina only applies midaraisa michaim.
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SPEAKER_01: But after you checked it, it's not alive anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not chaim anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: Nigga, you're allowed to sell it.
10:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's the Raisa.
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SPEAKER_01: Why?
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SPEAKER_01: Atulifnishkita, it's only the Narabanan.
10:45
SPEAKER_01: And Davar Anisha Mikhaim Ghazar Rabbanan.
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SPEAKER_01: La Kashkitah.
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SPEAKER_01: Only something that's Nishhaim that's sellable, michaim.
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SPEAKER_01: Meaning, what's the main point of the animal?
10:52
SPEAKER_01: What would you sell if you sell a line of animal?
10:54
SPEAKER_01: Rashi says the iker is the basar.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the khashivas of the behema.
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SPEAKER_01: So dabr anishhaim, ghazrub rabbana la chashkita's the part of the animal that's chashab michaim, the basar, that's what the rabbana were geyser on that you're not allowed to sell la achar shit.
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SPEAKER_01: Whereas why atulashkita?
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SPEAKER_01: You might come to sell before shita.
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SPEAKER_01: But babashane andhaim, like usar rabbana, but something that is not sellable mechaim, like the skins, has nothing to do while it's alive.
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SPEAKER_01: That the rabbana were never geyser, and that's why you're allowed to sell the skins straight up, la achar misa.
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SPEAKER_01: And by the way, since you're allowed to sell the skins akar misa straight up, so we're gonna allow you now to uh we're gonna allow you now, because since the whole din that you're not allowed to sell the boss are laakar shit is only a dinner rabban, so beavla we're gonna allow you to sell it.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay, but yeah.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: What about islam and the right so the rabban uh made it the the rabban didn't weren't geyser any dinner rabban over here, and therefore you're only left with the dairy that you're allowed to sell the maista behema that belongs to Yasam straight up, even without Havla, of course, once it's Shachat.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's the after Shmobar Yitzhab, Sabbath the Rabbi.
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SPEAKER_01: How do we know Maest Behema that belongs to Yisam?
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SPEAKER_01: That you're allowed to sell a kidarka straight up, not the Havla.
12:10
SPEAKER_01: Sha'nam the Pasik says Rak Bekhol Avas nafotizbah.
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SPEAKER_01: So what do you do with Maestra Behema?
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SPEAKER_01: And it doesn't say vehiculu, but the main part of it here is the vihulu, is the next part of the pasik, which the Gamar is assuming you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Kivirkas Hashemala Kecha.
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SPEAKER_01: You do it, you have the braho.
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SPEAKER_01: Once it's shachhted, then you have the braho, you eat it.
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SPEAKER_01: So what is something that you don't have the braho?
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SPEAKER_01: We're not gonna bench you if you go and do this mechan.
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SPEAKER_01: Only shit.
12:38
SPEAKER_01: It's only give me lachashkita.
12:40
SPEAKER_01: Where do we see on the pasik?
12:40
SPEAKER_01: It says tisbach, right?
12:42
SPEAKER_01: You first shachted, then you have kibirkashemala keh.
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SPEAKER_01: So what do you only have, when do you only have the braho from Hashem?
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SPEAKER_01: La Hashkita.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: Must be referring to Maisa Mehmah.
12:51
SPEAKER_01: So, and that was.
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SPEAKER_01: So what so we see on it, there is a level you're gonna be able to sell it, like Rava said, after Shita on a Derez level, so there are a bottom that were Geyser, but Yasmi, they were not Geyser.
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SPEAKER_01: We have a question.
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SPEAKER_01: They have they asked the following in the base medris.
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SPEAKER_01: Mao leavliad samas.
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SPEAKER_01: So we said when you're doing Avla, when you're selling the Basar by Avla, la achar Shita, even for a goddamn what do you do by Avla?
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SPEAKER_01: For other parts, right?
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SPEAKER_01: You sell the the iries, the gidem, the karnayim, we said all these different things.
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SPEAKER_01: And then when you're selling those, your mavliya the may basar in them.
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SPEAKER_01: But says one thing we left out of this list that we usually list is that samas, the bones.
13:24
SPEAKER_01: Are you not allowed to?
13:25
SPEAKER_01: It's sound and the bailu is more coming from a point that we usually say that when we're listing this list of different things, you would sell parts of the animal.
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SPEAKER_01: Why do we leave out the bones?
13:32
SPEAKER_01: So what if you uh are mavliat with the bones?
13:35
SPEAKER_01: You're selling the bones, and now you're mavliya the basar in it.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: So Mao Lavliab Samas.
13:38
SPEAKER_01: Can you do that or not?
13:39
SPEAKER_01: Ribchib Rem Shim and Murabi, they argued about this.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: You're allowed to, yes.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: Just like the other parts of the animal, you're allowed to sell the bones and sell the buster along with it, bavla.
13:49
SPEAKER_01: Bihadam, another one says, Ayy Mavliya, you're not allowed to sell.
13:52
SPEAKER_01: By the way, what would be the machalagus?
13:53
SPEAKER_01: What why would you or wouldn't you be allowed to be Mavliat with the bones?
13:57
SPEAKER_01: The question is, is it normal to sell the bones?
13:59
SPEAKER_01: If it's normal to sell the bones, then yes, I understand you're selling bones, so you can do a bavla, it doesn't look like a scam.
14:04
SPEAKER_01: But if it's not normal to sell the bones, all of a sudden you're paying top dollar for the bones.
14:07
SPEAKER_01: So that uh uh that clearly it's almost like you're doing it shalai bavla because you're paying for the bus.
14:14
SPEAKER_01: We're not fooling anyone, we know what you're doing.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: Either way, you're not fooling by bavla, it's already a different step.
14:18
SPEAKER_01: But the point is that one of them says you're allowed to, one of them says you're not allowed to.
14:21
SPEAKER_01: Lightly, it's not a machlay.
14:22
SPEAKER_01: Yes, Habadaka, Abagasa.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: One's by a behemothaka, one's by a behemoth.
14:25
SPEAKER_01: What's the difference?
14:26
SPEAKER_01: The bones are different, bigger, smaller bones, Rash.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: She says that by Behemadaka, eina tsum is ruin the klum.
14:32
SPEAKER_01: They're not right for anything, and therefore, no normal person would buy it.
14:34
SPEAKER_01: If you're buying it, it's uh clearly you're buying for the Basa.
14:36
SPEAKER_01: Some of your science have it's not right for Caleb.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: If it's not right for Calim, again, why would you be buying it?
14:41
SPEAKER_01: The by behemogasa already is worth something, and therefore you're gonna be able to do it.
14:44
SPEAKER_01: Biba Sema some say that I dividi bagasa both are talking about a behemothasa.
14:52
SPEAKER_01: One of them they were going according to their own Minagamakam.
14:54
SPEAKER_01: In one of their places, they did use the bones of a hemagasa for caleb, so it was normal to sell it, you could do a bahavlah.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: And in the other uh, they didn't uh do such a thing.
15:06
SPEAKER_01: They didn't use even the bones of a behemoth for Caleb, and that's why he said that you're not allowed to sell it.
15:12
SPEAKER_01: Behavla.
15:13
SPEAKER_01: Goof.
15:15
SPEAKER_01: So if you're tuned out, you could tune in for today's da.
15:17
SPEAKER_01: So we're quoting something we already uh we already mentioned, but we're gonna get knee deep into this.
15:22
SPEAKER_01: So we have Bihar and we have Maister Behema, right?
15:25
SPEAKER_01: The common denominator between both is that in a limited sense, again, we just saw when you're allowed to sell even Maister Behema.
15:32
SPEAKER_01: But Mido Raizo from the Psukim at least it seems that you're never allowed to sell Maister Behema.
15:37
SPEAKER_01: Bihar and Maister Behema, you're not allowed to be Bihar and Maister Behemoth, you're not allowed to be Poidah.
15:45
SPEAKER_01: However, you're allowed to sell a Bihar.
15:48
SPEAKER_01: You're not allowed to sell Maister Behema.
15:50
SPEAKER_01: You sign him afterwards, bahavla, it depends, right?
15:53
SPEAKER_01: But on the as a general rule, you're not allowed to sell Maister Behema.
15:56
SPEAKER_01: So let's see the psukim by Bihar and by Maister Behema.
15:59
SPEAKER_01: There's similar psoum, but it doesn't use the same words.
16:01
SPEAKER_01: Goofah.
16:02
SPEAKER_01: Bibharu emer by Bihar, it says Loi Siftah.
16:05
SPEAKER_01: It says Loi Sifta by Bihar, you're not allowed to be poid.
16:07
SPEAKER_01: Binimkar, but you are allowed.
16:09
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, I said the opposite.
16:10
SPEAKER_01: I said the opposite.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: Loy sifta.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: You're not allowed to do pidin.
16:12
SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't say the opposite.
16:13
SPEAKER_01: You're not allowed to do pidin, but you are allowed to sell a bihar.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: No problem.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: The coin is allowed to sell a bihar.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: The maister namar, by maister behema, it says lo yigoil.
16:21
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't say lo sifta.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: It says a much more inclusive word, which is lo y goil.
16:25
SPEAKER_01: It can't have any ghoula, which is the in an imkar.
16:27
SPEAKER_01: Which teaching me you're not even allowed to sell it.
16:29
SPEAKER_01: So you can't do anything with a maister behema.
16:30
SPEAKER_01: You can't be poidet and you can't sell and you can't sell it.
16:34
SPEAKER_01: Nothing.
16:34
SPEAKER_01: Whereas the bahar, you're allowed.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: The coin is gonna be allowed to sell it.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: You're not allowed to sell it.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: The maister behema in any case, whether it's alive, whether it's shachat, whether it's a tam, whether it's a bam.
16:45
SPEAKER_01: How do I know this?
16:46
SPEAKER_01: Let's break it down.
16:47
SPEAKER_01: How do I know that Loi Goil by Maister Behema is much more inclusive?
16:52
SPEAKER_01: That means I can't even sell it.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: How do I know that?
16:56
SPEAKER_01: Because the kin amarav.
16:57
SPEAKER_01: Dimi amrbiya, nemer lo you goal by maestrumlo be haramim.
17:01
SPEAKER_01: I know it from exercise.
17:02
SPEAKER_01: It says Loi Goal by Maister, that's our Maister Behema.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: It says Loigoil.
17:05
SPEAKER_01: And it also says Loiga by Haramim.
17:07
SPEAKER_01: By Khirim.
17:07
SPEAKER_01: What's Khirim?
17:08
SPEAKER_01: So Khirim could mean Khajim.
17:09
SPEAKER_01: When you're uh machrim something to Hashem, you all of a sudden now it's uh Kaidesh.
17:14
SPEAKER_01: It could also mean Khirem Khehanim.
17:16
SPEAKER_01: So this is by the Khirim of Khehanim, where the same way you could be mached as something to uh uh for a karman, you can also be mached as something that now it goes to the Khan.
17:23
SPEAKER_01: There's a certain concept.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: So by Khirim of Kaihanim, it says Loi Goil.
17:27
SPEAKER_01: Mal, just like over there by Khirem of Kaihanim, Mekhiro Imoi, it means that you're not allowed to sell it.
17:33
SPEAKER_01: How do we know that by the way?
17:34
SPEAKER_01: Because look at the Postgre.
17:35
SPEAKER_01: The Pasik says by Khirim of Kahanim, it says Akko Hirem Loy Mocher Veloigal.
17:40
SPEAKER_01: It says it explicitly.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: So it says Loil over there, and you're not allowed to sell it over there.
17:45
SPEAKER_01: And it says Loi Gol over here by Maestr Mehema.
17:47
SPEAKER_01: So we learned a Gzerah Shaba just like over there, it says Loigal and you're not allowed to sell it.
17:50
SPEAKER_01: Why it says it explicitly Loy Moha?
17:52
SPEAKER_01: So to over here it says Lo egal by Maestro Behema, you're not allowed to sell it.
17:55
SPEAKER_01: Avkan machirahima.
17:56
SPEAKER_01: So to over here by Maestro Behema, you're not allowed to sell it.
18:02
SPEAKER_01: This Gzera Shavah you just brought to teach me that you're not allowed to sell a Maister Behema and you brought a Gziroshava egal from Khir Mathaihan.
18:11
SPEAKER_01: This Gziroshava must be a Xer Shav Mufna.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: Why?
18:14
SPEAKER_01: By the way, what's Xeroshava Mufna?
18:16
SPEAKER_01: Xer Shavu Mufna means that it's an extra word.
18:19
SPEAKER_01: Because you can have a Xer Shabbat.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: Xer Shava just means I have this word here, this word there, I learn it in from here, from there to here.
18:25
SPEAKER_01: But sometimes we needed both both words here and there for anyways.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: It needed to be there in the post to teach me what it's teaching me.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: But some so that's a much lower level of Xeroshava because if it's not an extra word, then you can ask uh a pircha on the Xeroshaba.
18:39
SPEAKER_01: A Xer Shava Mufne, Mufna means it's empty, meaning there's no reason it said the word over there.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: And therefore the only reason it said the word is to teach me this Gzair Shava.
18:47
SPEAKER_01: So it's a much stronger Gzair Shava, Nakamina, you can't ask a Pircha.
18:50
SPEAKER_01: There's no questions you can ask on this Gzershava.
18:52
SPEAKER_01: There's even a higher level of Mufna Mishnatz on them if both words.
18:55
SPEAKER_01: Again, the Gzair Shabbat is comprised of a word here, a word there.
18:57
SPEAKER_01: So what if one of them is extra?
18:58
SPEAKER_01: That's Xeroshava Mufne, you can't ask Akasha.
19:00
SPEAKER_01: If it's Mufna Mishnim on both ends, it's even stronger.
19:04
SPEAKER_01: Uh not Rasubia.
19:05
SPEAKER_01: But the point is, says Rivnachwun Bayitzot to Ravuna Breader Reshua, this Xer Shabbat you just brought me to teach me from Khayram to Maestro Behemah that you're not allowed to sell, it must be Xer Shavan Mufne.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: The law Mufni, because if it's not Xeroshavan Mufni, then I would have a Pircha.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: Now whatever.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: Very easy Pircha to knock it off.
19:22
SPEAKER_01: But from the fact that it's Mufna, I can't knock it off.
19:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay, what would be the Pircha?
19:26
SPEAKER_01: The Malakharam Shankin Halamala call or Mochamar.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: The Maister Behemah is not khal on any animal.
19:35
SPEAKER_01: It happens to that one, that one specifically.
19:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so it's exertion of a mufna, and therefore you can't ask this pircha.
19:41
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
19:42
SPEAKER_01: Li'ai afnuy mufni.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: Which word is extra?
19:47
SPEAKER_01: So it could be one of two options.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: It could be the lo y gol that it says by Maister Behima, and it could be the lay goal that it says by cherem.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: Says the gymara, let's try to break it down.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: Maybe the one, maybe the loy goal by cherim is extra.
20:00
SPEAKER_01: The gomer meister, why?
20:02
SPEAKER_01: Because maybe you shouldn't have said it by cherem, and I should have learnt it from Maister.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: That what?
20:06
SPEAKER_01: Ma Maister Kodash Veninego.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: I should learn it like uh meat sad.
20:10
SPEAKER_01: That uh that uh what's it called?
20:12
SPEAKER_01: That Ma Maister Kodash Veninego, just like Meister is Kadash, and you're not allowed to sell it.
20:17
SPEAKER_01: It says Loigal over there, right?
20:18
SPEAKER_01: So Avharamim Kadosh Main and Gam.
20:20
SPEAKER_01: So to Haramim are also Kadash, and you're not allowed to sell it.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: It says the Gemar Blay Golda Kazam Rachman Alamali.
20:26
SPEAKER_01: So if so, why does it say Lo Igal by Haramim?
20:29
SPEAKER_01: It must be extra.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: And if it's extra, it teaches me that now this is a Xerish of a mutnah to teach you from there to here.
20:36
SPEAKER_01: If so, I'll tell you that that's uh I could still have a Pirchho, because Mala Mayser Shikin Kodash Ofana Vullah.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: You're telling me that you learn it just like this, meaning if it didn't say it over there, I would be able to learn it from Maister.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: Why?
20:47
SPEAKER_01: Because Mayser is Qadesh and Khairim is Qadish.
20:49
SPEAKER_01: Says a Gemara.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: Maiser is a Khumra.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: Ikalimfrah.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: Mayser has a concept that it could be Qadish, the one before it and the one after it.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: But if you called the ninth one, right?
21:04
SPEAKER_01: What's Maiser Mahema?
21:05
SPEAKER_01: Asiri Khadesh.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: The tenth one that goes Takhashevit is gonna be Kaidish.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: What if you made a mistake in counting and you called the ninth one really the tenth one?
21:13
SPEAKER_01: It was really the ninth, but you said Asiri Kaidash.
21:15
SPEAKER_01: So then you realize your mistake.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: And the tenth one, the next animal that came, the actual tenth one, you called it the ninth one.
21:22
SPEAKER_01: Because I already put the kadush onto that on the ninth one.
21:24
SPEAKER_01: So the tenth one you didn't say Asiri Kaiddish, you said that's gonna be the ninth.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: And then the 11th one rash says, you called the tenth one.
21:31
SPEAKER_01: Why?
21:32
SPEAKER_01: Because the last number you said was nine.
21:33
SPEAKER_01: So you can't well and you continue and said ten again.
21:35
SPEAKER_01: So the alloch over here is it's all gonna be Qadish.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: All three of them are gonna be Qadish, and that's Qadish Lefanov al-Ahrab.
21:42
SPEAKER_01: Even Bitos, even if you did this Bita's my Subhema is a Khiddish and a and a Khumra, then it's gonna be Qaddhishun al-Ahrav, they're all gonna be Qadish.
21:49
SPEAKER_01: So I have a Humra over here, so you're not gonna be able to learn.
21:51
SPEAKER_01: So it says if you're not gonna be able to learn, then it's not mufnah, it's not extra because I need it over there.
21:55
SPEAKER_01: It says maybe the opposite.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's I shouldn't have said the lay goal by Kharamim.
22:01
SPEAKER_01: And I should have learned it from where?
22:02
SPEAKER_01: From Bihar.
22:03
SPEAKER_01: What would be the limud?
22:04
SPEAKER_01: That Mah Bah, Kodashane and Nigal, just like Bihar is Kadashvain and Nigga, you can't redeem it.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: Ah, Kharamim, Kadesh Main and Egalim.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: If so, why does it say Lohgal by Bahramim?
22:15
SPEAKER_01: If I would have learnt it from Bihar anyway.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: Lafnu, it must be Mufneh.
22:18
SPEAKER_01: And that's why it's extra, and that's why this is a Raksad Zer Shav.
22:25
SPEAKER_01: Of course, we know the Khumra that Bihar has.
22:28
SPEAKER_01: Bihar is Kadashmirachem.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: So you can't learn Haramim from Bihar if it's uh Kadashmirachem.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: And therefore it's not Mufna.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: Says Gemara, Ella Loyamaister.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: Maybe I shouldn't have said the Loigal that it says by Maister.
22:43
SPEAKER_01: And I should learn it from a different Gzairashab.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: Says the words by both, by Bihar from Bihar.
22:49
SPEAKER_01: I should learn it from Bihar.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: Says the Gemara, how did that end?
22:52
SPEAKER_01: What would be the Limun?
22:52
SPEAKER_01: Then Ma Bahar Kadushvininiga.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: So like the cause of Rahmana by Maister and Lamalilafna, it must be extra because I could have learned it from a different Gzair Shaf from Bihar.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: Says the Gemara, we you're asking me to learn uh now Maister from a different Gzirash from Bihar?
23:07
SPEAKER_01: I have a Pirch on that, right?
23:11
SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
23:13
SPEAKER_01: Says the Gemara, how is that a rayah?
23:16
SPEAKER_01: I just asked you Akasha, you just tried to bring a similar liman from Bihar.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: And you told me you can't do that.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: Why?
23:20
SPEAKER_01: There's a Pirchh ik in the mifrahmabar sheken kudushafirachem.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: It's Kadashmirachem.
23:25
SPEAKER_01: Says Gemara, you're bringing me a different Gzirashaba, Havara, Havara, to teach you this din to Maister Behema?
23:31
SPEAKER_01: I have the same Pircha.
23:32
SPEAKER_01: You can't learn the Gzirashaba.
23:33
SPEAKER_01: Again, we're gonna answer that it's really Mufna, and therefore you can't ask this Pircha.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: But we asked the Pirchha already.
23:37
SPEAKER_01: We said that Bihar is Kadashmirachem.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: So Says Gemara, Nami Le Mufni.
23:41
SPEAKER_01: It's not Mufnah by Maister.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: Why?
23:43
SPEAKER_01: Because I couldn't have learned Maister from Bihar.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: Why?
23:46
SPEAKER_01: Dikilamiprah kidbachino.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: Because you can ask the same Pircha we just asked.
23:49
SPEAKER_01: The Mala Bihar Shikim Kadashmi Rechem.
23:52
SPEAKER_01: So don't so I can't learn the Gzirashava of Avara Avara.
23:54
SPEAKER_01: And so the Gemar Gesmach, the Avartakray Sero.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: No no, that Gzirashaba is for sure Mufna.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: The Havara, that Gzirashaba is Mufne.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: So don't ask me a kasha on it because it's a Gzireshava Mufna.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: So I don't care about your Pirchha that it's Kadashmi Rechem.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: No, it's still a good Gzir Shabbat.
24:08
SPEAKER_01: If it's a good Gzirashaba, then I could have learnt Maestra Mahema Loigal.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Didn't have to say Loigal because I could have learned it from Bihar.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: Mala Bihar.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: Because just like Bihar is Qadesh and it's not Niftah, so too, so too Maestra Mehima is Kadash and Niftah.
24:21
SPEAKER_01: So Loigal the Khazar Rahman Alamali.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: Why do I need to say, um, speaking outside, why do I need to say Loigal by Maister Mahima if I already learned it from a different Gzair Shabbat that's rock salad from Bihar?
24:32
SPEAKER_01: That's the Mufnah.
24:33
SPEAKER_01: The fact that I said it by Maister Mahima, that's the extra time.
24:36
SPEAKER_01: And now this is a rock solid Gzair Shabbat because I have the one time that is that is uh extra, and that's how I learn a Gzair Shabbat from Haramid to Maister Behema, just like over there you can't sell it.
24:48
SPEAKER_01: How do you know it's explicit in the posse?
24:50
SPEAKER_01: So to over here, you can't sell a Maister Behimah.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: Says the Gemar, Bahar Namin Nalif.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: Gula Gula Meharamim.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: Why don't I learn also by Bihar?
24:57
SPEAKER_01: We said by Bihar there's no Isra Makira, you're allowed to sell it.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: So why don't I learn by Bihar a Gzair Shubah also from Haramim?
25:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we have a word, we have Loi Gol here, Loi Gol over there, and therefore why don't I learn also from Haram that there's an Isra Mihira not only by Maister Mahima, also by Bihar?
25:10
SPEAKER_01: Says the Gemar, the Maiser Mufni.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: The Bihar La Mufnah, I'll tell you why.
25:14
SPEAKER_01: Because the Loi Gol by Mayser is Mufnah and that's why I'm able to say it's Ghazir Shah.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: Because it's Ghazirashabah Mufnah by Bihar, it's not Mufneh, it's not extra.
25:22
SPEAKER_01: Why?
25:22
SPEAKER_01: Because we need it at least one time to teach us.
25:24
SPEAKER_01: Says the Gemar, my chosen the Lay Siftah the Bihar, Ligufei, Ud the Maister Lafnuye.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: How do you know what to pick and choose?
25:29
SPEAKER_01: How do you know that the Lay Siftah that it says by Bihar is Ligufe?
25:33
SPEAKER_01: That's the one teaching me the khiddish that you're not allowed to redeem it.
25:37
SPEAKER_01: Uh the maister lafnuya.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: The one that it says by Maister is the extra one to teach you that it's a Xerashava Mufna, and that's what I'm able to base it off of.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: The aim of the Maister the Gufeh, the Bihar Lafnuye, maybe extra pakart.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's the opposite.
25:48
SPEAKER_01: Maybe the one that said by Maister is Ligufhay to teach me this and that you're not allowed to redeem it.
25:53
SPEAKER_01: And the one that's said by a bichar, Lai Sifta by Bihar, that's the one that's Lafnuye.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: That's the one that's gonna be extra for the Xer Shavah.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: So says it, why do we decide that this side is the extra one?
26:02
SPEAKER_01: Maybe the other one says the Gemara, I'll tell you why.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: Because dun in Geula Migeula, then dun in pidiya mige'ula, because look at the words.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: What does it say by Maestra Behema?
26:11
SPEAKER_01: Loyal.
26:12
SPEAKER_01: What does it say by Bihar?
26:13
SPEAKER_01: L'Isiftah.
26:14
SPEAKER_01: It's a different word.
26:15
SPEAKER_01: And therefore, if I have to choose one for Xer Shabbat from Haramim, which also says Loi Goel, Loi Machir of Loi Goil.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: So what am I gonna choose?
26:21
SPEAKER_01: The same word, Loi Goel.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: Dun in Loi Geula Geul Migaula, we're gonna learn Geulah that it says Loi Goal by Maister.
26:27
SPEAKER_01: From Geulah, from the L'Igal that it says by Haramim, then done in Pediyah Miguel.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not gonna learn Lai Siftah that it says by Bahar from Loi Goyel that it says by Haramim because it's a different word.
26:38
SPEAKER_01: What's the Gamar's obvious question?
26:40
SPEAKER_01: That some of us are probably expecting.
26:43
SPEAKER_01: What do you mean?
26:44
SPEAKER_01: What does it make a difference?
26:44
SPEAKER_01: It's a different word.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it means the same thing.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: Zuishiva, Zuy Shiva Zui Bia.
26:48
SPEAKER_01: Hotan and the Mary Mishmouth.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: Should be Shaba Kainu Baqai.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: How are we making a Xer Shava between Shiva and Bia?
26:53
SPEAKER_01: Shaba Khine Baakai.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: Zuishiva Zui Biah you said because it means the same thing.
26:57
SPEAKER_01: If it means the same thing, then you can make a Xer Shava, even though one of the words, even though one word is ba, one of the word is shav, you can still make a Xer Shabb because it means the same thing.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: So Lai Gaalmachar in our context, or really sorry, Lai Gael and Lai Sifta means the same thing over here.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: So why can't we make a Xer Shavah?
27:12
SPEAKER_01: From Bihar as well, says the Gemara.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you why.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: Because hani me l'ha the like a dummy the dummy level hecha the Aval Heikha the Dummy Leh me the dummy lay offin.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: Because that's true that I can make a Xer Shava like Shiva Biah that's a that's if there's nothing that's closer.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: But if you have the exact word, obviously we're gonna prefer the exact word.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: So you asked me a question: how do you know to choose the one by Maestra Behemah as the extra one?
27:34
SPEAKER_01: Maybe the one by Bihar is the extra one.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you very simple, because the one by Maister Behemoth is the dummy lay, and that's the one I'm gonna use for the Gizera Shabb because it's the exact word.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: The word by Bihar is like sifta, even though it might mean the same context, and then the day it's not the same thing.
27:47
SPEAKER_01: And if I have a closer one, you're right.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: Last resort, it could be used for the Gesyr Shav, but if I have a closer one, I'm gonna use the closer one, and that's why the one by Bihar is not the one that's extra.
27:56
SPEAKER_01: That's the one by Bihar is the gufe to teach me the synonym of Loy Sivda.
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SPEAKER_01: The one by Maister Behema, that's the extra one to teach you that there's the Isra Mahira by Mayser Behema.
28:08
SPEAKER_01: Let's try and move a little quicker so we could uh not keep falling behind.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: Says the Gamar Vila Behar Havara Havara miiser.
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SPEAKER_01: Why don't I learn by Bihar a different Xer Shava?
28:16
SPEAKER_01: Why don't I learn Havara Havara miiser?
28:17
SPEAKER_01: Now learn it from Maister that there's an Isra Mehra just like by Meister that there's an Isra Mehra.
28:21
SPEAKER_01: How do we know that by the way?
28:22
SPEAKER_01: From a different Xer Shava.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: From why don't we have a problem by Kajan?
28:25
SPEAKER_00: We don't do that now.
28:26
SPEAKER_01: What double Xer Shava?
28:28
SPEAKER_00: We don't learn from one thing to Kajan to another thing to another thing.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: We don't learn.
28:33
SPEAKER_00: We learn from Haram to Miser to Mayser.
28:36
SPEAKER_01: That's true even by Xeroshava?
28:39
SPEAKER_00: That's Kabokhara.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: No, it's not.
28:43
SPEAKER_00: Definitely not Kalakh.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: It's Volkins and Marcus also in third party.
28:46
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, I don't remember I know what you're talking about.
28:49
SPEAKER_01: So says Gamar Belith, Bihar Havara, Havaram.
28:52
SPEAKER_01: So we know by Miser that there's Mihira.
28:54
SPEAKER_01: Why we learn from Xeroshava from Haramim.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: So why don't I now learn from Miser to Bihar?
28:59
SPEAKER_01: From Havara Havara.
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SPEAKER_01: That's it.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you why there's a mute.
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SPEAKER_01: The post says who by Haram to teach you over here.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: There is a Israel Mahira Huvalai Bihar.
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SPEAKER_01: That only over here is Isra Majira, also wherever I'm learning it too, like Maiser.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: But by Bihar not.
29:19
SPEAKER_01: That's the mute.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: Maybe the who is coming to teach you Huvulai Miser.
29:23
SPEAKER_01: Maiser, Geula Kamaiser.
29:25
SPEAKER_01: No, I have the Xer Shab of Geulah, I think they call it.
29:28
SPEAKER_01: I have the Xer Shabbat by Geulah to teach you to maiser.
29:32
SPEAKER_01: And why pick that one?
29:34
SPEAKER_01: Again, it's the same word like we said before.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: Rava my Raba says something else.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: So that was the first shot in how we know.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: Rava says a noobshat, a makar that we know the Isr Makira specifically by Maister.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: Baema, you want to put on speaker?
29:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: Says the says Rava.
29:50
SPEAKER_01: So that was all uh baye, right?
29:55
SPEAKER_01: Was that a bae?
30:04
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm not sure.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: Either way, this is Rava, he's giving a second pshat in the Onumikar Rava says, and how we know that the Isra Makhira specifically applies by Mayser Behino.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: Raba Amar Loi Gal the Haramim Lait Sarich.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: I don't need it to say Rashi is going to over here, Loy Mukher.
30:19
SPEAKER_01: Because again, by Haramim, it says Loi Gal and Layy Mocher.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: It says uh if you read the Pasuk, Achko Kherim Laimakher Laikal.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: So Rava is saying Lo yimir the Kharamim.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: That's Rashi's Girsa, it's important over here to understand.
30:30
SPEAKER_01: So Loyim de Haram al'it zarik.
30:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't need it to say Loi maker, you're not allowed to sell by Haramim.
30:35
SPEAKER_01: Why?
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Because when would you think that you're allowed to sell this khairim to the Ka'nim?
30:39
SPEAKER_01: Ibait Balim, if it's in the house of the Baileim, the owners of it, after he was Makdash, not Machdish, but he made it a chairim for the Ka'anim, then Hektish Ninu belongs to Hekdish, or it belongs to the Ka'anim.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: And therefore he can't sell it.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: Of course, it's not the Baylim to sell.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: So Ibeit Kayan, if it's in the house of the Kain, Khulin ninu.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: Once it gets to the Kayan, it's complete khulin.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: He's allowed to do whatever he wants.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: Of course he's allowed to sell it.
30:58
SPEAKER_01: So what is it talking about when it says lay maker by charamim?
31:01
SPEAKER_01: And how do we know the Kain's allowed to sell it?
31:03
SPEAKER_01: And it's considered chulin.
31:04
SPEAKER_01: We have a prize.
31:04
SPEAKER_01: So Haramim calls Man Shane the base Bailim, Haran Kactish Khaledim.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: So it's not his to sell.
31:08
SPEAKER_01: Shinemar Kohrim Khadish Kadashim Hulashem.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: Nelson the Ka'im, once he gives it to the Ka'im, Arain kahulun the khaldim.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: So of course he is allowed to sell it.
31:14
SPEAKER_01: So what are we talking about when you're saying you're not allowed to sell it?
31:16
SPEAKER_01: Either of course you're not allowed to sell it, or of course you are let us sell.
31:19
SPEAKER_01: So what do you mean you're not allowed to sell it?
31:20
SPEAKER_01: So just finishing the bicycle.
31:28
SPEAKER_01: So again, why do I need layy maker that it says by haramim if it's not teaching me anything?
31:35
SPEAKER_01: So if it's not anything for haram, like we just explained, so apply it to Mayser, and that's Ravas Makar, and therefore that's how we know that you're not allowed to say that there's an Isra Makhira by Mayser Mahima.
31:46
SPEAKER_01: Why are we applying it to Mayser?
31:47
SPEAKER_01: Why don't we apply it to Bihar to teach you that there's an isramahira to Bahar?
31:51
SPEAKER_01: Again, Miser has Loyal Loigal just like Haramim, and that's why it's closer.
31:54
SPEAKER_01: That's why we're gonna apply it to Mayser.
31:55
SPEAKER_01: Rabash Yam Ramash says something else.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: The Laigoil de Maiser Loi Mokhru.
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SPEAKER_01: When it says Laigoal by Maister, it doesn't actually mean La Igal.
32:03
SPEAKER_01: The way to translate Lo Igal that it says by Maister means don't sell it.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: Loi mocher.
32:07
SPEAKER_01: And Umarvash Ramash says, Minominal.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: How do I know that?
32:10
SPEAKER_01: Because the Post says, Murah Mikaim.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: When does Tmura apply?
32:15
SPEAKER_01: Tmura only applies while the animal is alive.
32:18
SPEAKER_01: And therefore the next words that it says Loi Goel, when isn't it not Negal Mechhaim?
32:23
SPEAKER_01: So also it's not gonna be Negal Mikaim.
32:25
SPEAKER_01: Hola Acha Shita Negal.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: So what's the deal cover there?
32:27
SPEAKER_01: That after Sheitah you could be poidet?
32:29
SPEAKER_01: How about you amadavaracha?
32:30
SPEAKER_01: You could be poided after shitah you can't.
32:32
SPEAKER_01: It needs a modabaracha.
32:33
SPEAKER_01: In order to be poid hektish, we know you need to evaluate it, stand it up in front of Besdin.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: And in order to stand it up and evaluate it to be poidet, it needs to be alive.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: So what are you talking about?
32:41
SPEAKER_01: After shahitah you're gonna be poidet.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: So Elash Mami, no lay galay mochur.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: So it must be.
32:45
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean it doesn't mean that to be poided, because if so, the dirt doesn't make sense.
32:49
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, really means mocher, you're not a selling.
32:58
SPEAKER_01: And therefore, since Khatrima is beach are baklamacha, you had this question that of course to be poided, I need it to be alive.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: Which means that you could be poided at La Khitah because La Khashkita you don't have Hamadavaracha, but I don't need Amadavaracha.
33:13
SPEAKER_01: And therefore you could be poid at Lachita.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: So my kalamara, what are you gonna tell me?
33:17
SPEAKER_01: It can be after shark, and therefore lay goal on the passage.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: Could mean pinyon.
33:20
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't have to mean makira.
33:22
SPEAKER_01: Says Gemara, nah no khama.
33:23
SPEAKER_01: This is what we mean to say.
33:24
SPEAKER_01: Meika the mechaim lay mifrik or lachashkita mifrik.
33:27
SPEAKER_01: It just doesn't make sense.
33:28
SPEAKER_01: It's not ala das.
33:29
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't make sense that you have something that while it's alive, you can't be pointed, but after shahitah you are allowed to be pointed, says why not?
33:41
SPEAKER_01: So you can't be pointed because the kidusha is much stronger.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: It's a much lower level of kiddusha once it's once it's uh shachut, and therefore maybe you could be pointed.
33:53
SPEAKER_01: If anything, it's the opposite.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: There's a concept that while the animal's alive, and since it has more kidusha, it's stronger to accept the pidyun.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: Why?
34:04
SPEAKER_01: Because the uh the money's going to hektish.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: So therefore, since it's alive, it's all in the mitwas pidian, it's much stronger to accept the pidyun.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: And still you can't be pointed at lay mefric.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: Well, lacha shkitah that it's not as strong to accept the pidyun.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: That you are gonna be pointed at, obviously it doesn't make sense.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: It says Gmar Elish Mami, no, that's why.
34:23
SPEAKER_01: We it must mean Lay Gal Lay Machr.
34:25
SPEAKER_01: Really, when it says Lay Gal by Maister, it means lay maker.
34:27
SPEAKER_01: You're not allowed to sell it, it says Gemara, if so.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: If so, that loygal by Maister Bahema means don't sell it.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean lay goal, it means lay makr.
34:35
SPEAKER_01: So why don't we just say that?
34:36
SPEAKER_01: The looks of Rahman, Lay Makhar, why didn't the tire just write Loy Makr if that's what it meant?
34:39
SPEAKER_01: So Gamar, I'll tell you why.
34:40
SPEAKER_01: Because Rahun a lay maker Ava me is Dabuni, was who the layman's David.
34:43
SPEAKER_01: I would think if it only said Layy Machr straight up, I would think you're not allowed to sell it.
34:47
SPEAKER_01: Because of it ovdin the khal, because that's really ovdin the khal.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: You're treating it like a regular behema, this uh Maister Behemoth.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: Ah well, if frukim ifrik, but maybe you could be poided.
34:54
SPEAKER_01: Why?
34:54
SPEAKER_01: The aile damal hektish.
34:56
SPEAKER_01: Over here we say.
34:56
SPEAKER_01: Because the the money is going to hektish.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: So you're being poided, and now the money is going to hektish.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: So maybe you are allowed to be poidet.
35:02
SPEAKER_01: That's why the hachikas of rachwall.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: Delay is dav, nun name is David Vlay.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: Frukim Ifrik, you're not allowed to do anything.
35:08
SPEAKER_01: You can't be poided, and you can't sell it, and then lay goal is inclusive in both.
35:13
SPEAKER_01: How do we know?
35:13
SPEAKER_01: It means that a few different as we saw today is that git shop.