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- 1:12Speaker 2: Chuck, Paul and Tucker with you today. And stocks are
- 1:17just kind of flopping around, not really doing much of anything.
- 1:21They're a little up, little down, a little left, little right,
- 1:24but they're just hanging out. The Dow's up forty points,
- 1:26the S and P's up three nasdac's up twenty seven,
- 1:29So no real movement about a tenth of a percent
- 1:32on all the major indices, or a little bit less
- 1:35on the S and P. Five hundred tenure Treasury selling
- 1:37off back above three point eight percent, up five point
- 1:40nine basis points three point eight oh two. We've got
- 1:43oil continuing to rise off its highs for the day,
- 1:47but West Texas Intermediates still up another dollar twenty eight
- 1:50a barrel to seventy one eleven, and the triple A
- 1:53national average for gas prices that is still falling. Remember
- 1:59there's often.
- 1:59Speaker 3: A delay here.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Plus we have some a little bit of a backlog
- 2:03on gasoline futures coming down that still needs to hit.
- 2:06So the TRIPA national average below three twenty a gallon
- 2:09to three nineteen and six tenths another eight tenths of
- 2:11a cent off of yesterday, and so continuing to see
- 2:15those prices sliding, and we've got gold today down nineteen
- 2:20seventy an ounce to twenty six seventy and sixty cents. Paul,
- 2:26there's a piece in Bloomberg Opinion today. It's titled the
- 2:29US Economy's landing isn't as soft as we think. And look,
- 2:36I don't think that this piece actually says anything about
- 2:38the soft landing or not, because the broader economic data
- 2:41is the broader economic data. But what it is pointing
- 2:44out is the auto market, specifically the auto loan market
- 2:48is getting a little bit dodgy at this point and
- 2:52is a real cause for concern, though not one that
- 2:56is large enough to impact the US economy in the
- 2:59way that the excesses of the housing bubble did back
- 3:02in two thousand and seven two thousand and eight.
- 3:04Speaker 4: I was waiting for the conclusion at the piece to
- 3:07say that it was going to have a larger impact,
- 3:09because that's kind of what the title implies, that it's
- 3:12going to have this outstated impact, and really that's not
- 3:16where it landed. I would say that to summarize the piece, basically,
- 3:20if you look at the auto loan market, it is
- 3:23accounting for about one quarter of the non mortgage consumer
- 3:27credit out there, and debt levels have been rising. I mean,
- 3:30all of us know. If you're looking at vehicle prices
- 3:33over the course of the last three or four years,
- 3:35they're significantly more expensive. And what occurred in twenty one
- 3:39and twenty two is that the average price for a
- 3:43vehicle balloons significantly where you saw in the three years
- 3:47prior to January of twenty twenty. So from seventeen to
- 3:50twenty the average monthly vehicle payment increased by about forty bucks,
- 3:55not too bad, very manageable. What you saw from January
- 3:59of twenty twenty to the three years after that to
- 4:01January of twenty twenty three is that average monthly car
- 4:04payment was up by one hundred thirty bucks to six
- 4:06hundred dollars a month, so a substantial increase. And for
- 4:09those who were lending to these buyers that had relatively
- 4:13low credit scores. There's starting to be some stress in
- 4:16that market, to the point where the delinquency rate that
- 4:19we're seeing on auto loans is a little bit more
- 4:22reminiscent of what we saw in twenty ten. To be clear,
- 4:27I'm not making a parallel to the overall economy being
- 4:30anywhere near that level. But we're seeing about three point
- 4:33eight percent auto loan delinquencies versus it's really been trending
- 4:38around three percent over the last ten years or so.
- 4:40If you look back at the data.
- 4:42Speaker 2: And the big thing on the auto loan market is look,
- 4:45the data can be concerning, which I think it is,
- 4:48Like it's it's clearly trending in a bad direction. But
- 4:52the overall size of the auto loan market just isn't
- 4:57big enough to cause the kinds of problems that we
- 4:59saw in two thousand and eight. Could it cause you know,
- 5:02a slowdown in the US economy, absolutely, But remember that
- 5:07when we talk about just the relative scales here, the
- 5:10auto loan market is a tenth of the size of
- 5:13the mortgage market. It's not good. You're not going to
- 5:18have like the great auto recession of twenty twenty five.
- 5:22You might have, Yeah, this was a contributing factor and
- 5:25you know, heading to recession and consumers needed to de leverage,
- 5:28But this is not the housing market in that in
- 5:32you know, two thousand and eight, just because it's not
- 5:34nearly as big and it's not something that has that
- 5:38kind of impact as a result, So it's problematic. Uh,
- 5:43it is something that does suggest, you know, weakness amongst
- 5:46a swath of American households, But it doesn't keep me
- 5:51up at night because it's not going to be the
- 5:52epicenter of whatever happens. It'll be collateral damage that you know,
- 5:56happens as a result of whatever else is going on
- 5:59in the US ecay.
- 6:00Speaker 4: Right, there's some individual companies maybe that overextend themselves lending
- 6:03during that period of time, but we're looking at a
- 6:06very small set subset of the US economy, in the
- 6:09US market, stock market in general. That it is not
- 6:12something that you should add to your list to worries.
- 6:15There's plenty that you can have right now looking at
- 6:17the geopolitical environment, but this particular economic story something that's noteworthy,
- 6:23but not something that should be overly concerning.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about this port strike now
- 6:28into its second day, and look, this is something that
- 6:33the overall impact on the US economy has the potential
- 6:36to be significant for sure. Yeah, this is something that
- 6:40should keep you up more than yes, the auto loan issue,
- 6:43because if this goes on for yeah, we get past
- 6:46mid October on this, there's some real problems in the
- 6:50US economy then, so we're not there yet, but hey,
- 6:54how does this end up progressing? I've seen a couple
- 6:57of different things in terms of of you know where
- 7:01this is going to go? Some people and again I look,
- 7:05Paul and I have never worked on a dock in
- 7:07our life. Paul, do you know anyone who works on
- 7:11the docks?
- 7:12Speaker 4: I have a clienter too, whose backgrounds as longshoreman, but
- 7:16not current. I believe that they're retired.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Tommy used to work on the docks. Yes, he did,
- 7:21he did. I heard that he did. Heard that a
- 7:23couple times union's been on strike, you know, so he's
- 7:25down on his luck. It's tough. But in any case,
- 7:29Paul and I don't like we're not involved in that
- 7:32business in any way, shape or form. So all I
- 7:34can do is read the thoughts of people that are
- 7:38way smarter than me and tied into what's going on there.
- 7:42I've seen some suggesting that the movement yesterday where the
- 7:45union came down off its seventy seven percent wage, increased
- 7:49request down to sixty one and a half, and the
- 7:53ports and shippers boosted their offer from forty percent in
- 7:58wage growth up to fifty as hey, like we're getting
- 8:01closer to middle ground there. There still are questions about
- 8:04automation as well, and things like that as it relates
- 8:07to you know, how these ports are going to be
- 8:10operated in the future. But I saw some people who
- 8:13understand this business say yeah, there's a good chance this
- 8:16could be solved by the end of the week. I
- 8:18then saw someone else who whose view I respect on
- 8:21this just said, hey, this might actually take longer, Like
- 8:24this is one issue, but the automation one's the bigger one,
- 8:27and that's not being addressed here. So I don't know
- 8:31how long this goes on, but I do know if
- 8:34we're still sitting here after Columbus Day saying, yeah, this
- 8:38thing is still dragging out real problem for the US
- 8:42economy and it could be the tipping point that ends
- 8:45up throwing the US economy into recession.
- 8:47Speaker 4: Not to mention, the longer it goes on, the longer
- 8:50concern you'd have, or the rather the more concern you'd
- 8:52have that inflation could potentially pick back up again. If
- 8:55this is to go on for weeks on end, I
- 8:58would hope that that is not the case. That they
- 9:00can come to an agreement. What is at stake here,
- 9:04what the impact is, Just to give listeners a sense,
- 9:07you have companies like Walmart, Ikea, Samsung, hon Depot, Bob's
- 9:11Discount Furniture. Those are some of the four or five
- 9:13largest companies that in through import through these fourteen major
- 9:17points ports out there on the East Coast and the
- 9:20Gulf Coast. And we've got about forty five thousand long
- 9:23shortmen on strike. This is the first strike these constituents
- 9:28since nineteen seventy seven. The West Coast, which has a separate.
- 9:32Speaker 3: Union, they had struck.
- 9:33Speaker 4: I believe it was a little over a year ago,
- 9:35so there is some basis of comparison there. The best
- 9:39way to summarize this, it was mentioned in one of
- 9:41these pieces here that duration amplifies impact. That is the
- 9:44best way to summarize this. That the longer this goes on,
- 9:48the more the impact can be felt throughout the US
- 9:51economy because these ports handle a significant amount of trade volume,
- 9:55about three trillion dollars a year.
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- 10:29Speaker 2: Paul. There's a piece in Boomberg Opinion. It's titled Algorithms
- 10:31don't raise rents, landlords do. What's the premise of it?
- 10:35Speaker 4: Aside from that, basically, there is some rumblings out there
- 10:41that the Kamala Harris, her potential administration, if she were
- 10:46to get into as if office, would look at cracking
- 10:49down on algorithmic price fixing software to raise rents. So
- 10:54typically what you'll have is about one third of rental
- 10:58units out there use algorithm data in order to assess
- 11:02what they should charge for rent in a given market. Now,
- 11:07it's I guess being mentioned here that this could potentially
- 11:12cause price collusion if everyone was using that same source
- 11:16of data, and I I just can't get behind it.
- 11:19Speaker 3: Check.
- 11:20Speaker 4: I don't think that this is what should be pointed
- 11:23to as the culprit for raising rents. I think it's
- 11:25much more the simple economic concept of supply and demand.
- 11:29We live in a country that has underdeveloped on the
- 11:33supply side for the last decade plus, and that is
- 11:36much more the reality of what we're seeing on the
- 11:39rent side of things. If you look in areas that
- 11:42are seeing a boost and supply, like Phoenix and Austin
- 11:46some of these others, you actually are seeing price reductions there.
- 11:49And so my view is that the market conditions will
- 11:51dictate what rent is being assessed.
- 11:54Speaker 3: And this concern.
- 11:55Speaker 4: About worrying about algorithms, which should be used as a
- 11:58tool to help set prices and to help landlords maximize
- 12:02their profitability, is not something that should be used is
- 12:07used for malicious practices, because the market should dictate prices.
- 12:12Speaker 2: So I think that when we're talking about rents, it's
- 12:15very much possible that it can be both of these
- 12:18things that are causing the uptick. We've talked at about
- 12:22how we just have not built enough housing and that's
- 12:25a problem. But I think it was maybe a month
- 12:29and a half ago a company called real Page. I
- 12:31don't know if any listeners are familiar with it or not,
- 12:34but it's a basically a rent management software that landlords
- 12:39use in order to help them determine their rents. And
- 12:43they were subject to a DOJ lawsuit about a month
- 12:46and a half ago, and the lawsuit included quite a
- 12:50bit of data that pretty much showed, Hey, the way
- 12:52that it works is by effectively sharing rent data between
- 12:57different landlords to tell them how how much to charge
- 13:00in order to maximize their revenue. And sometimes that might
- 13:05be keeping units off the market. Sometimes it might mean
- 13:09larger increases that their software recommends. But the DOJ basically says, look,
- 13:15you are effectively creating a rent cartel in doing so,
- 13:19because you are colluding between different landlords to raise rents
- 13:23to maximize the total amount of rent collected. And that's
- 13:27not something that is okay which I would agree with,
- 13:31like collusion in like cartelization, if that's a word, we
- 13:35just made it so it is now like that stuff
- 13:38that is bad. We want more competition. We don't want
- 13:41businesses saying, hey, what are you charging? Maybe i'll charge
- 13:44that too, because that's how you end up with higher
- 13:47prices for consumers, and that that kind of collusion is
- 13:50specifically bad for buyers. So I think it can be
- 13:56both ultimately, and yes, the bigger impact probably comes from
- 14:01not building enough housing. But the fact that we have
- 14:05software out there that specifically is built to allow for
- 14:09the sharing of rent data so that landlords can maximize
- 14:14the amount of rent that they are collecting doesn't really
- 14:18sit well with me either. Like I think that I
- 14:20don't think that's something that anyone should say, Yeah, that's
- 14:23just totally okay, Like that's fine. I mean, in any
- 14:27other business, we'd say that's collusion. We call it price fixing.
- 14:31Remember how many times, Tucker, how many times has the
- 14:33freakin' as Big Tuna been caught up in this? Remember
- 14:35all the tuna price fixing scandals covered Big Tuna? Yeah,
- 14:39big Tuna. You gotta watch out for those guys. What
- 14:42about big rent?
- 14:43Speaker 1: Uh?
- 14:44Speaker 2: Big rent rent? Damn high? Yeah, the tuna is too
- 14:47high in Mercury. Anyways, I don't know. I think it
- 14:53can be both. And that's kind of where I land
- 14:55on this is, Look, we need to build more housing,
- 14:58but have software out there that allows for collusion like
- 15:04price fixing between landlords. It's probably bad. Am I wrong?
- 15:09That would not be good. So that's kind of where
- 15:12I stand on it. Let's see I want to save
- 15:15this Florida story for the next segment here. You want
- 15:20to talk about CVS or Google.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Let's talk a little CVS.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Okay, things at CVS they're bad. They're very bad. Not
- 15:28just at CVS, at Walgreens too. The two major US
- 15:31pharmacy chains right now are dying, and it's unclear whether
- 15:35or not they are going to exist in the format
- 15:39they exist in a decade from now. Quite honestly, they
- 15:43have all kinds of problems, including CVS. Look, they've got
- 15:48all these units that they tried to stick together in
- 15:50terms of They've got, you know, a basic pharmacy, They've
- 15:53got a pharmacy benefit manager, which they bought as part
- 15:57of what was it the Signa acquisition or yeah.
- 16:01Speaker 4: In twenty seventeen. That one, to me was probably one
- 16:04of the worst acquisitions of the several that they made,
- 16:08where ETNA, as a health insurer, has offered and enrolled
- 16:12hundreds of thousands of people into its own private medicare
- 16:15program and that has just been extremely costly and really
- 16:19been a difficult area to endeavor into. And Mike and
- 16:22I were discussing yesterday, you would think with the amount
- 16:25of knowledge that CBS has in the healthcare space that
- 16:29they would have been able to assess appropriately assess the
- 16:33risks that come with waiting in those waters. Now, perhaps
- 16:36they couldn't have foreseen that the federal government was going
- 16:39to get in and negotiate prices drug prices through Medicare,
- 16:43But there's no more company out there that should have
- 16:48been well aware of these risks before making this significant acquisition.
- 16:51It just has not worked out.
- 16:53Speaker 2: So the acquisition has been bad. Their pharmacy business is
- 16:57kind of dying on the vine, a combination of people
- 17:00changing where they buy the non prescription drug stuff. People
- 17:03just aren't going in to buy like shampoo and deodorant
- 17:06in cvs anymore. You've got pharmacists that are completely burnt
- 17:11out because management is increasing their hours and the stuff
- 17:15they need to do and they're not getting enough help there.
- 17:19So you've got pharmacists that are saying, look, we're fed
- 17:21up with this. And there have been a couple different
- 17:24walkouts of pharmacists at cvs in the last year.
- 17:27Speaker 4: And delivery alternatives out there as well in the pharmacy space.
- 17:30Speaker 2: So I don't really know what the future looks like
- 17:34for big pharmacy, not big pharma, but big Pharmacy. It's
- 17:41kind of like, I'm not sure what the business is
- 17:45for these companies going forward, given how they're being out
- 17:49competed in a number of areas and they've overleveraged buying
- 17:53companies that have worked out badly for them.
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- 18:33Speaker 2: Paul, have you heard of Google?
- 18:34Speaker 3: Yes?
- 18:35Speaker 1: I have?
- 18:35Speaker 2: Uh do you ever Google anything?
- 18:37Speaker 3: All the time?
- 18:38Speaker 1: So?
- 18:39Speaker 2: Google is working on their next generation or next iteration
- 18:44of artificial intelligence, and specifically it's focusing on developing out
- 18:50platforms that allow for more reasoning to happen, so not
- 18:55just the recitation of facts and data. You know, Hey,
- 18:59you go to chat GPT, tell me a little bit
- 19:01about you know, shrimp and the North Atlantic. Okay, can
- 19:06spit out whatever reasoning would be Hey, in a fight
- 19:10between a North Atlantic shrimp and a South Atlantic shrimp,
- 19:14which one do you think would win? You and I
- 19:16can reason that out. I mean we can't because I
- 19:19don't know the difference between them, but obviously the North
- 19:21Atlantic one would probably win because of its greater tolerance
- 19:24for cold water. Just putting that out there. You know,
- 19:28temperature matters. But right now, if you the older models
- 19:33from different AI companies, they don't reason. They recite facts,
- 19:38but they don't reason. Open AI and Microsoft about maybe
- 19:42a month or so ago, released the latest iteration of
- 19:44THEIRS that had you know, more reasoning capabilities baked into it,
- 19:49and Google trying to work on similar improvements as they
- 19:53try to develop new products.
- 19:55Speaker 4: Yeah, Google's been a little bit slower to release any
- 19:57of its updates in this space, just because the brand
- 20:00reputation that they have, they recognize it's a marathon. They're
- 20:04really focused on, obviously the ethical concerns that come with
- 20:07this type of technology, But it continues to be interesting
- 20:11the innovation in these fields. This is much more of
- 20:14a reasoning based approach rather than a factor citing.
- 20:18Speaker 3: Like Chuck mentioned there.
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- 21:41Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit about the Florida
- 21:44real estate market because it's starting to get a little
- 21:48bit dodgy down there, and two culprits which are largely intertwined.
- 21:53The first is you just have these hurricanes that are
- 21:57continuing to batter the date this year, the hurricane that
- 22:03just went through Helene was the fifth straight year that
- 22:07a Category three or above has hit the United States again,
- 22:11not all hitting Florida, but that's the first time ever
- 22:14that we have seen this happen where five years in
- 22:17a row, you've had a category three or above hit
- 22:20the continentally United States in a five year period. So
- 22:24you've got hurricanes that have been happening with you know,
- 22:26greater frequency, larger ones, and it's starting to impact homeowners
- 22:32there in a couple different ways. The first being people saying, look,
- 22:34I'm fed up with as, I'm sick of it, and
- 22:37the second being hey, what's happening to homeowners insurance premiums
- 22:40is entirely predictable as well. Peace in the Wall Street
- 22:44Journal interviews one person, Jacob McFadden, who moved down to
- 22:48Florida in twenty twenty, was paying eight to eighty a
- 22:51year to insure his home. It's now up to thirty
- 22:54three hundred dollars a year, almost quadrupling in a four
- 22:58year period. And this quite honestly, I don't think there's
- 23:02any end in site for homeowners insurance premiums down in
- 23:07the Southeast, based on what we are seeing coming out
- 23:10of property and casualty insurers right now.
- 23:13Speaker 3: No, it's just astounding.
- 23:14Speaker 4: Particularly that example really hit home that you mentioned right
- 23:17there with that quadrupling over a four year period, and
- 23:21that impact is being felt through all throughout Florida. Tampa
- 23:24Bay was an area post pandemic where you saw the
- 23:27fifth most popular relocation destination there. A lot of people
- 23:32went down there, the coastal living and the remote work
- 23:35that surged during twenty twenty. Now sort of realizing that
- 23:40with the amount of hurricanes that have hit that area,
- 23:42it's just really difficult to own property there. And similarly,
- 23:46this is occurring in California as well, where you have
- 23:49a lot of insurers leaving in that state in addition
- 23:53to Florida, and particularly for luxury homes, what the homeowners'
- 23:57insurance companies are stating is that they much rather diversify
- 24:01their risks amongst four two hundred and fifty thousand dollar
- 24:05homes than one a million dollar luxury home, just because
- 24:08the costs associated with potentially replacing that one million dollar
- 24:12home if it were to get knocked out.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Just as an example from another piece in the Wall
- 24:15Street Journal, It's Citizens Financial Group, home insurance premiums for
- 24:18mortgage loans of more than one and a half million
- 24:21dollars jumped one hundred thirty percent between mid twenty twenty
- 24:26and mid twenty four. For mortgages between four hundred and
- 24:28eight thousand, home insurance premiums increase twelve percent over that
- 24:32same period. So it very much is something that's factoring
- 24:36in UH. And part of that is also because look,
- 24:40if you look at where highly priced homes tend to sit,
- 24:42they're in areas that have great views. They're on the ocean,
- 24:46they're on top of a cliff. They are, you know,
- 24:50in places that are inherently dangerous because that danger produces
- 24:54the great views that people want. On the other hand, hey,
- 24:58if all you see your window is I don't know,
- 25:03you know, a bunch of forests surrounding you in you know, Vermont? Okay,
- 25:08what what? What? What danger we talking about there? It's
- 25:10it's not the same situation. So this is something that
- 25:15I don't think we are fully through yet, and how
- 25:18it evolves is going to be something that has the
- 25:21potential to quite honestly, dramatically reshape migration patterns within the
- 25:27United States over the next decade because one of the
- 25:31reasons why people move to a lot of these different areas.
- 25:33Florida is an example. Hey, it's cheap to live there.
- 25:36There's no income tax, you know, Like, Okay, it's great
- 25:39that there's no income tax, but now my homeowner's insurance
- 25:41is twelve thousand dollars a year, you know, Like that's
- 25:44basically an income tax.
- 25:47Speaker 4: Plus the property taxes that are already built to structure
- 25:50to be higher because of no state income tax.
- 25:52Speaker 2: Correct. So this is something that that really bears watching
- 25:56because again it's it's not just in Florida. Again, California
- 26:00is facing the same issues Colorado is facing the same
- 26:03issues much of the Southeast, and it's not because of
- 26:07the politics of any particular state government or anything. It's
- 26:11just the math that insurers are doing with some of
- 26:13the losses they've racked up in these departments over the
- 26:17last three to four years, and so until they can
- 26:21get to a point where they are no longer hemorrhaging
- 26:24billions of dollars on homeowners insurance rates are going up.
- 26:30That's the unfortunate reality of where we are going in
- 26:34that business. There, take a quick break here. When we
- 26:37come back, it's time for stack Roulette.
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- 27:50Speaker 2: Paul, What do you have for me? For stack Roulette?
- 27:53Speaker 4: Southwest Airlines is shaking up their seating Chuck here. This
- 27:58has been mentioned, but we got some more detail on
- 28:01this shakeup on their recent investor Day. Where effective for
- 28:05early twenty twenty six travel and late next year twenty
- 28:08twenty five, when you're booking flights with Southwest, you will
- 28:12be able to pick your seat. They will no longer
- 28:14be having their randomly assigned seating and as a result,
- 28:19the Wall Street Journal here did a nice breakdown of
- 28:21kind of the winners and losers of this change. The
- 28:25winners are those people who get anxiety be able not
- 28:28knowing where they're gonna be sitting going into their flight.
- 28:31Eighty six percent of airline customers, according to some a
- 28:35survey done, want assigned seats, So those people will be
- 28:38satisfied to know that Southwest is going to have that
- 28:41going forward. But for those who like to take a
- 28:44chance with seat roulette, that is no longer going to
- 28:47be an option. Also, what you're gonna see is if
- 28:49you buy the cheapest fare out there, which is the
- 28:51Want to get Away Fair, your seat is gonna be
- 28:54randomly assigned during online check in, meaning those Southwest kind
- 28:59of this notion, you're just gonna get the scraps at
- 29:02this point if you buy that cheapest ticket. Southwest argument
- 29:06to that is they still allow for the two free
- 29:08checked bags along with even that cheapest seat that you
- 29:13can purchase on that want to get Away Fair.
- 29:16Speaker 2: I don't know why people complain about the whole Southwest
- 29:19not picking a seat thing.
- 29:21Speaker 5: Didn't bother me too much.
- 29:23Speaker 2: You know what you're signing up for. It's not like
- 29:24you got fooled.
- 29:25Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you just pick another airline. It matters to you,
- 29:27and it's what type of flight would you be concerned about?
- 29:31Have it like we have young kids here. If I'm
- 29:33flying somewhere with young kids.
- 29:35Speaker 2: I'm not booking Southwest.
- 29:36Speaker 3: It's not gonna be an option. You have to have
- 29:38a signed seating.
- 29:39Speaker 4: You have to know how we can situate ourselves to
- 29:42protect the other airplane flyers from my young kids throwing
- 29:45a fit. If I was flying somewhere on a bachelor
- 29:47party solo, then I wouldn't really care as much. It
- 29:51wouldn't be as big of a concern. When you're traveling
- 29:53solo a lot easier than with with young kids.
- 29:56Speaker 2: So you're going on lots lots of bachelor parties.
- 29:58Speaker 3: I wish, man, it's been a long time.
- 30:00Speaker 2: I would love to go on a bachelor party right now.
- 30:02Speaker 3: I wish I would love it.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Paul, why don't Why don't the three of us get
- 30:06together one weekend then fake a wedding And what's what's
- 30:11the movie where there is a movie? What's the movie
- 30:14where they have the fake friend who they uh, these
- 30:17like four guys create this fake friend that they have
- 30:20through the entire adulthood to use as it's like, oh,
- 30:23escapegoat for everything.
- 30:24Speaker 5: I think it was just called bachelor's.
- 30:26Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's not a it's not a bachelor
- 30:28party movie. It's one where they create this fake friend
- 30:32that they're always using as an excuse to go do things.
- 30:37It's it's something like Ricky. Yes, that's Ricky Stanicky. That's
- 30:41the one. So can you read the premise of it
- 30:46from like Wikipedia or Rotten Tomatoes or something.
- 30:49Speaker 3: I'm not doing it justice.
- 30:50Speaker 5: Stand by, I'm pulling it up now. When three childhood
- 30:54best friends pull a prank that goes wrong, they invent
- 30:57the imaginary Ricky Stanicky to get them out of troubled.
- 31:00Twenty years later, they still use the non existent Ricky
- 31:03as a handy alibi for their immature behavior. Director Peter Farley.
- 31:08Speaker 2: So, I think we should go to Ricky Stinicky's bachelor
- 31:12party in a few weeks and see how it goes.
- 31:14Speaker 3: We've got a new employee at Armstrong Advisory Group. That's
- 31:17what I'm telling my way.
- 31:18Speaker 2: Ricky Stanicky is uh, you know, he's We're heading to
- 31:22Alaska for some tuna fishing, because that's that's what Ricky
- 31:25wanted to do.
- 31:27Speaker 3: I would not rank high my bachelor party destination.
- 31:29Speaker 2: No, No, I think it would be a tough sell.
- 31:32Probably a long flight too. Uh. Tom Brady put his
- 31:35watch collection up for sale at Sotheby's what.
- 31:38Speaker 3: Is he running out of money?
- 31:39Speaker 4: He's getting paid thirty seven million dollars a year to broadcast.
- 31:42Speaker 2: You know, I am kind of wondering what the deal
- 31:45is here on this in terms.
- 31:46Speaker 5: Of still getting FTX right, like trying to get back
- 31:50those fun recoup the shares.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Yeah, but so they're they're they've they're hosting what's called
- 31:55the Goat Collection, watches and treasures from Tom Brady and
- 31:59the Watchers anywhere between twelve thousand and eight hundred thousand dollars.
- 32:04So yeah, if you've got eight hundred thousand dollars floating
- 32:07around to spend on a watch, then you know you
- 32:09could potentially own one of Tom Brady's. They're also selling
- 32:13the shirt that he wore to the NFL Combine, his
- 32:16final college game, jersey from Michigan, a buccaneer's game used helmet,
- 32:23and you know he's selling this obviously. You know, I
- 32:26won't excite to give fans and collectors a chance to
- 32:28own and cherish these special pieces from my journey. And
- 32:34I'm just kind of wondering why. I mean, I don't
- 32:38think he's broke again. As you noted, he's making plenty
- 32:41of money with his Fox contract these days.
- 32:44Speaker 4: The divorce, he's diversing someone who is probably wealthier than
- 32:47he was, not probably definitely, so that's not a concern necessarily.
- 32:54Speaker 2: I don't think I can't even pronounce most of these
- 32:57watches because they have French names. So you know, I.
- 33:01Speaker 4: Paddock, Philip, Adumarsa, look at you, Look at you old
- 33:06French Paul.
- 33:06Speaker 2: There you go. I own several Paul can tell us
- 33:10about French watches, but not the price of garlic. I
- 33:12think that's indicative of, you know, just where we are
- 33:15these days. But yeah, so look, Brady's selling all this stuff.
- 33:19I don't think it's because he's broke, but you kind
- 33:21of look at and you go, well, what are you
- 33:23doing if if you just wanted Brady's wealthy enough that
- 33:28if you just wanted fans to have it, just find like,
- 33:32you know, have something, Hey post you know, an Instagram thing. Hey,
- 33:37write me your story about why you want my you know,
- 33:40combine Jersey and what it means to you, and I'll
- 33:42give it away to the you know, the person with
- 33:44the best answer.
- 33:46Speaker 4: I don't want to be this guy, but it seems
- 33:48like this should be much more of a charity sort
- 33:50of endeavor, you know, like.
- 33:52Speaker 3: He has so much money and.
- 33:55Speaker 4: To really continue to squeeze the lemon juice or orangeuice whatever.
- 33:59Now do you want to use out of your brand
- 34:00name just to sell your watches to me, seems a
- 34:04little unnecessary and way you're getting paid as much money
- 34:07as he does.
- 34:07Speaker 2: Yeah, the charity thing would make sense. I know he
- 34:09used to do a ton with best buddies in the area.
- 34:13It would be an easy way to be like, hey,
- 34:14we're trying to, you know, raise as much as possible
- 34:17for you know, charity X, Y or z. Maybe that
- 34:21is happening here and this piece just doesn't disclose it.
- 34:25Speaker 4: But I'm not against you know, people get out there
- 34:28and making money.
- 34:29Speaker 3: It's just like of all.
- 34:30Speaker 2: People, Tom, you don't need to sell your watches. It's
- 34:34you know, what's what's what's what's going on here? I
- 34:36think is the question. Taking a quick look at markets,
- 34:40still a little bit of slight upward drift today after
- 34:42yesterday's sharp downward move. The DAMS up ninety points, the
- 34:46S and p's up six, the NASDAC up forty one,
- 34:49so anywhere from a tenth to a quarter percent we're
- 34:51seeing floating upward in US equity markets right now. Tenure
- 34:56Treasury is up four point five basis points to three
- 34:58point seven eight eight percent, and we've got Oil West
- 35:02Texas Intermedia pairing its games from earlier in the day,
- 35:06now up just forty cents a barrel to seventy twenty
- 35:09three despite continued concerns about escalation in the Middle East.
- 35:14Gold also dropping today, down eighteen sixty and ounce to
- 35:19twenty six seventy one and seventy cents. So overall, kind
- 35:24of a quiet day after again a big move to
- 35:27start the week off. Tomorrow, we do have some additional
- 35:30economic data coming out. We get ism services data at
- 35:33ten along with jobless claims data at eight thirty am,
- 35:38so those are the two things that we'll be looking
- 35:40at this all in preparation for the job support for September,
- 35:44which is at Friday at eight thirty as well. So
- 35:46we got two busy days to finish up the week.
- 35:49Have a great rest of the day today, We'll see
- 35:52you tomorrow.