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NFL Free Agency Shakeup · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: And and he just winds up and he'll sling that motherfucker 75.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: When?
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: When James slings it, I mean he's a giant freak of an athletic black man.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: But when, like when Baker winds up and throws one man, I like I've been obsessed with Baker Mayfield Since he planted the flag in Ohio State.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I hate Ohio State and that was and and that was like Baker.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: You know this, this walk on from five different teams.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Guy Shows up, beats Ohio State.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: You know, like Terrell Pryor in Ohio State, she's like, yeah, fuck you guys.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: And of course I hate Ohio State.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was just the perfect, perfect storm for me.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: So I love Baker like you love James.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah well, he's going to the Browns.
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: That just happened.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: The match.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, um, I had a feeling he knew he wasn't gonna go back to New Orleans based on that last play.
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: Well, anyone wants to go back to New Orleans?
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: If I'm a quarterback right now, I don't want to be there.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: No, I think they're their situation.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: That head coach is not good.
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: It's not that good for a quarterback.
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: If they had Sean Payton still, I thought Denver might be an option because that, but no, they're not gonna go there.
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: He I think Tennessee was interested in New York, but I think he made the right move.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: A team that made it to the playoffs, a team that Was the backup last year.
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: One NFL comeback player of the year.
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: They had five different, five different starting quarterbacks last year.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: I, I don't think that.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: I think that they're they.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: I think they realized that Dishon was a bad move.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I mean he, the games he's played after the suspension Weren't good, I mean, and they, and it was denotusably different.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: He looks like a completely different player and it doesn't make sense.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: That's what I was Weird well, it's not really, if you think about it.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: Nobody knew ever.
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: It's in his head and and maybe he wasn't as good because you saw what CJ Straub did and Houston, you know he he's one of more that he's already won more.
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, who was actually speaking to CJ Straub?
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: Who was the running back that a Houston picked up?
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: They did yeah.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: Who was it?
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: I can't remember.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: Houston just picked up a running back in this free agent like a badass right back Tony, was it Tony Pollard?
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: No, but your boy, gus Edwards, going out to LA.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: No, no, not to LA, to to the Texans.
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: I know I didn't see my boy going to the Chargers.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: Brian, no hold on any.
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: You're going at me now.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: Who went to the?
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: To the Texans.
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: The running back with the Texans I think it was Tony Pollard, because, yeah, no, I saw it because I was hiking.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: I was hiking yesterday so I missed out on all the free agency craziness and I've been catching up on it all day and I remember seeing that at the Texans We've got a free agent running back Titans.
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: They did, but it's not Tony Pollard.
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: He's going to the Titans.
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: No, no, I know I Wasn't positive it was Tony Pollard, but the Texans did get a free agent running back.
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: They call him Berkeley's going to the Eagles to the Eagles, derek.
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: Henry Going to the Chargers.
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's the Chargers.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: But who's the one that's going to use the running back going to the Texas?
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: Nixon, there you go.
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say I knew it was a big name running back dynamite stuff.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: It's a.
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: Record too.
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: It's just great.
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: We can't search the internet by ourselves.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: You just saw vacation feeling good, had like some free time Try.
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: I hear you cracking a beer on vacation.
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: You want to talk about NFL free agency because it's going crazy.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't even go off on the dolphins.
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: Well, the dolphins Reno's sitting around.
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: The dolphins lost.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins, we knit.
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to the Raiders.
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we're about to Well it's technically the dolphins tomorrow because of all that, but everything's dude, the dolphins have lost everybody, not just Christian Wilkins.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: Going to the Vikings.
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: The dolphins have lost Christian Wilkins, jerome Baker, van Ginkl Yep.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: They lost Van Ginkl Connor Williams.
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: One of our alignment is still on the market.
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: Um, it's a lot of running backs getting some good money.
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs going to the Packers, yeah, derek Henry going to the Ravens.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, henry the Ravens makes sense.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, it sucks that he's gonna get his knee blown out, because that's what happens to every running back in Baltimore.
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: Is they play their?
• 5:47
  Speaker 2: knee out.
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: Moss from the Coles is now going to the Bengals, since they're losing out on Joe mix.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: That's not a good trade.
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: Commanders Signed Austin Eckler.
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: That's, that's a good pickup.
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: He can do a lot.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: Aaron Jones one-year deal.
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: Vikings dude.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: The Commies are right there with weapons man.
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: If, if what's his name, sam Howell out of North Carolina is ever gonna be a quarterback, it's gonna be this coming year with all the weapons they have now get swift.
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: Deandre Swift do.
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: Why does nobody want Deandre Swift?
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: Dude, I'm telling you, this is running back, this is it.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're just gonna, it's gonna be a bunch of one-year deals, but dude.
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: What about?
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: How say quan, dude?
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: How do you sign, say quan, for a three-year deal, at like 13 million year?
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: when you say one's got another First, the under a swift can do.
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: Deandre Swift can do everything.
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: That's a quan can do.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I mean these deals at running back.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: Take one still got.
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: Austin Eckler can do everything.
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: That's a quan can do.
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: It's about what your potential is and, yeah, and your agent yet, and he's obviously got a good one, yeah, I was gonna say it's gotta be the agent at this point because I mean, like I just named a couple other running backs that are worth 13 mil, according to that, say, quan Barkley deal.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: Let's go back to quarterbacks.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: We also got Kurt Cousins going to hot Lana.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: He's getting.
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: He's got a great agent.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: I mean he's been getting.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: He's been making like money moves His whole career well, kurt Cousins Guaranteed money drafted.
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: He had like chip on her shoulder dread fourth round.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: You know when they took RG three in the first round.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I, just nothing but you know, done just well enough to get that contract, or like played hot enough at the end, and then he gets the contract and he's just, but he's never really lived up to that type of money.
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: I'll never hand quarterback man.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: He's never lived up to that type of money.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: He's Ryan Tannehill, with a better agent and he's now going to Atlanta who you know.
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: They're dropped a lot guaranteed money to Kurt Cousins.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: They get a lot of people say they were quarterback away.
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: So we'll find out.
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: I think anything Less than 10 wins for the Falcons next year is a failure.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: You know because you were pretty close damn sure that I go seven and nine right right, exactly, I'm just saying.
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: I'm saying 10 wins if they don't get 10 wins, that's a failure.
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a blow out.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: This is they're going for it with this move.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: Well, they listen it.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: Winds are not no, it's all about wins.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: It's not about when you go out playoffs.
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: That's all that matters.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we got to make postseason, you get well, yeah, 10 wins will be in the playoffs, but just just find a way to get in the playoffs in the post.
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: No with the, no with the talent.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: Atlanta has a mast and now you plug Kurt Cousins in with that solid offensive line, a great defense and a bunch of young weapons.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: You got to make the division all around in the playoffs for it to be a success.
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah well, yeah.
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: You can't lose in the wild card round if you're Atlanta.
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: No way, if you get in and you lose the wild card round.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a failure to get there.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: Let's go back to these signings.
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: I mean God, what a time to be just average quarterback in the league.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they can have a few good games.
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, you thought, look at Baker Mayfield, you thought his career Was done.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: You know he, he was toast and now he was, he went to Carolina, didn't work out.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: Then he got a shot in LA, did okay there, and then Just he just got to keep hanging around and then get your shot and don't blow it.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: He learned.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: I think he learned from mistake, from his mistakes.
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: You know, I think some of these guys, especially like Baker and then like kind of like James too, you know these are guys that are number one picks, these are guys that are Heisman trophy winners, their ultimate competitors, ultimate confidence.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: And the NFL is just a different game and it's a whole new type of Just Management that needs to be done like Core, in like a just a complicated way.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: You know, you have to be a manager to figure it out and no, I like.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: That's why I actually I like the Baker versus James discussion.
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah because they both played for the same teams.
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: They both have Um similar skill sets that what a what a matchup that would be.
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: Potentially, you could get the bucks.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's fun, I mean I.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: He's.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: James mentioned that he wanted to play, so when he's taking Looks at the available options, you have to think he's gonna pick whichever one he thinks he has the best shot to play in, and I think you made the right choice, based on the rumors that you hear that what other teams Were interested?
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: So he's going to a team that made the playoffs.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: Going to a team that has a quarterback that is Is not the most reliable, to say the least.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's like basically backing up Fred Taylor as a running back.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Annie's the locker room guy, even when he's, even when he had his worst year in Tampa, like he still had nobody really said except for white.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: But but I mean, I call him Reverend booty man, I think, I think he'll be a good locker room guy is gonna be a good teammate he'll be, I think the Browns He'll make it's kind of puts, if anything it's.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it because if look what, look what flacco did last year, we're gonna get another journeyman guy who's Younger than flacco, who's hungry.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Not resign just didn't resign you probably get.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: James cheaper.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say the only argument you could have if, if you're, if you're Cleveland looking for a backup quarterback, knowing that you've got an off injured and off and so you gotta have a really good backup, yeah, I would think that the only other backup that you would sign at a reasonable price that would be a good argument Would be maybe a gardener Minshew.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: But Minshew is gonna compete for the starting job in Vegas apparently right.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: So you're not gonna get Minshew because he's got a starting Potential right.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: So I I think Winston makes the most sense and Cleveland's got so much talent and they've got traded for Jerry Judy too.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: So you got.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: You got Jerry Judy, you got Elijah Moore, you got a Marty Cooper, you got David and Joku, you've got Nick Chubb coming back off of injury.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's got weapons over the goddamn field.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: And he's got Kevin.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: Stafansky is an offensive?
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: That's an offensive freaking genius.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: We all forget about a good of a playcaller Stafansky is with a competent quarterback.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: You look what have you know.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: You can tell how the coach she got.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Look what he did with Joe flacco last year.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: They do look better with Joe flacco did and they did with Dishon Watson.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: He just needs Joe flacco terrible when he was with a bad coach, but he knows what to do when he has a good plan.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: And look what they did.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: I mean he put up great numbers and he led him to the Dagon playoffs.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Stafansky is a great It'll be a good fit for James.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: It's much better Freakin.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Carmichael yeah, he's coming from the guy in New Orleans that got fired.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Did he get fired, Pete?
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Pete Carmichael yeah he got fired.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy was coattail riding from Sean Payton.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like I would just fire him based on his name.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, pete are Michael, yeah, so that's a lot of money, you know, that's that's just something I I'll keep an eye on.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: There.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Kirk cousins will be in the NFC South.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden you have what was a god awful division.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Is the NFC South gonna be good now?
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: I doubt it, it'll be interesting, at the very least you got some big money quarterbacks that Haven't will dare car.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: What's he ever done?
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Kirk cousins, what's he ever done?
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: That man did I miss Baker Mayfield.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: All those guys are getting a maker me.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: All three of those guys are getting paid big money and I'm telling you right now yeah, one of them is gonna, two of them probably it's gonna.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Not, it's not gonna work out.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Show bit.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: I mean based on averages.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: None of them are gonna work.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I'd be surprised to be any of them.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I Mean you bring a 32 year old Veteran quarterback and expect him to lead the way.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I mean that's so rarely happens in the NFL.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I mean it always makes sense every time we see it.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: It makes sense like, like I was saying at the beginning of this past season, with Aaron Rodgers to the Jets it didn't scare me because that was the classic old guy quarterback to a crappy, desperate team.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: And I mean, granted, is Achilles there on, like the third play.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Right you know you couldn't predict that, but you knew something was gonna go wrong, because that that shit never works right.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's just all kinds of stuff coming through Big tight end, the both tight ends, and Super Bowl closing out on new deals, no speaking of.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl tight ends Jason Kelsey retired yeah even though he's a center.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now that's items.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: That was odd, the timing of it, I guess, like he had a bad workout one day and he's like you know what, I'm not coming back, my back hurts back hurts tired, I mean.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: The just push is no longer a play right, you do your vacation.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: You know I'm the end of the season, you're probably like I'm not gonna make any decisions.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he comes back, winston, and he's like you know what?
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: No, I realized what it's gonna take to physically compete this?
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: next year and he that's why he did it when he did it.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh hey.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I just saw an AFPN, jack Barrett signed with the Dolphin.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the big pickup.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Yep, they have him to go Opposite chubb now.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but chubb's gonna be out all of next year.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: He blew out his knee at the end of the season.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna get Jaylin Phillips back the bike he's been out and got Sam Darnold.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Really on a one-year deal.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I don't, wow, I don't understand that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a that's.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna get a guy to fill we're gonna go find a guy that's not paying.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: We can guy get.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, we can get a guy that's not as good as Kirk Cousins but gonna cost us what like 90% less.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that is.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Well, he's not gonna get started.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: No, we're not gonna win the Super Bowl so.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Donald's not gonna be the starter in Minnesota, no, but but they had they're gonna draft somebody and they're gonna yeah they're gonna lock sign with the Giants I.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, Drew Lock gonna be starting a head base.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: The Kobe Berset is the sign of the Patriots.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Now he probably will start, Mac Jones has been traded to the Jaguars Six pounder backup Trevor Lawrence, so he'll be going back to his hometown.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: That's a good.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I like him as a backup, actually.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: So does that?
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Is Belichick gonna wear that or people gonna?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know he retired now maybe, but that was his last bad move, man, yeah dude, just an awful pick.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, God one of many bad moves yeah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: And then, oh, we didn't but damn big cheat, how about?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: This one that deal that Russell Wilson, now that Steelers picked him up, one year 1.2 million.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: But you know what?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I don't get the fit, I don't either.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Because it's like, hey, they're just like all right, man, you can have a shot.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, give him a shot, and you know if you.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: No, I get the.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I get the fit.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: It's the same thing.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: If you're the Steelers, no, no, no, this is perfect.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: If you're the Steelers, I understand taking shots he can win, but I don't see the fit.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I don't see the fit in the offensive scheme, though is what I'm getting at.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: They don't really dude.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: It's my toma.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: They don't have a scheme right now except winning nine games, and I, like you, have a defense.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Look what he did the dooms, the legion of boom, whatever you know it's like your defense is good.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You have a guy I know.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: So this is their chance.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: They're just putting in, they give it a million dollars and they're saying, hey, maybe you got lightning in a bottle, you know you've done it before.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Dude the Broncos, that's what that is.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Because they're I mean the guy with the draft picket.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: You know he's degressed and so they're just trying to find someone to step up there.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Dude, the Broncos gave him 11 billion dollars.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I know and they're.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: that's why they're just like hey, they're, Broncos are paying the tab.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: So the Steelers are like just let them play the scenario, dude the Broncos have a good, solid defense.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: They were ready to plug and play quarterback, which is what Pittsburgh is right now.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Gardner Menchie though.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to start.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: They're making the same mistake.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Dude Russell Wilson ain't the dude?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I think?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I think yeah, but I think that's what I think, that's why I mistake when he's only making a million dollars.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I think that's what you're saying is like you're done.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he even made the team dude.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: This is like he still has to make the team.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: They might not even if he's not going to financially.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Financially it makes sense, schematically it doesn't.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Well, there, I think you're just hoping to find lightning in a bottle.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: You know I trust Tomlin.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, how could you not?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I mean I honestly he's, he's, it's trying to find those hidden deals, man, and that's what you got to do in this league with salary caps.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: You got to find, you got to try to find bargains.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: And right now he does have a history.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I mean before or not, I mean he is took a.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: He has jumped off a cliff in terms of, like he was talked about as future Hall of Fame quarterback, just not before that pick that, and it's been all downhill.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I mean the seat that was.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I mean he was always overrated in my opinion because but um, but he's still okay.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: He had some moments, but he's never really been Like a consistent quarterback.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: He's always kind of scrambled around.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: He had an awesome.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: He had an awesome like four year run when Seattle was mediocre and he was putting up crazy good numbers when Seattle, when Seattle was winning, the offense was not focused around Russell Wilson.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Beast mode time.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Well, we still have Ryan Tannehill still yet to sign.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: cares.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm just going to um to Kobe preset.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: He's probably going to go to the page.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: They're going to draft the.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: They're going to draft their pick in three, so they're going to take either Drake May or Drake or me to go there.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: You know if.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I'm.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: If I'm the wing, then I just take whoever's there.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I actually liked that spot.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: You know there's three quarterbacks that I think they're going to go one, two, three, so you take whichever ones.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but for Drake May is the best quarterback in the draft.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I was thinking that and I I've been I've been stated for three fucking years.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I told you about Drake May when he played Sam you on week zero three years ago.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I've been hyping up Drake May forever.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Drake May is the best quarterback in this draft.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Cable Williams is an emotional dumpster fire.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, he really is.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: And Jaden and Jaden Daniels is either a rock star or a wild bust.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: This is where this is why I kind of I kind of don't mind being number three.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: You could get the best quarterback and not have to trade because Chicago is going to pick Caleb Williams, because of just.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Pressure.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Washington's not going to want to get another court in North Carolina quarterback, they just got one.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: And you know, and yeah, you know, it's his hometown the Heisen's winner.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And what you got to worry about there at number two is somebody trading up to get Drake May.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Well, it was yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: So do you think somebody likes great May?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: or do we think about trading with Chicago and just taking May, number one overall?
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Right, if you like them.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if I'm, if I'm Chicago's GM, I draft, shake me.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've drank May for years.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: If Chicago is going to go QB.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I figured they would have already traded fields if they were going to go QB, but maybe not.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I mean honestly.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Honestly, if I am not looking to trade out of number one and I'm Chicago, if it was me I would not trade out of number one because I still have faith in fields.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I still have faith in Justin Fields.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And if you, what I would do is I would trade out a number one.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: If you will stay, I'd still stay in the top 10 and I would pillage somebody for a bunch of picks next year and then at the end of this year, if Justin Fields is the dude, that's not going to happen, then then I pay fields and I've already got a bunch of cheap.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: What do you think about Jayden Daniels?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I think he's boomer bust.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: He.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to need a lot of weapons around him, just like he had it at LA.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Is he like Lamar A lot about pin Lamar Jackson?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: The thing about Lamar Jackson that he he might be a better pastor, but does he have the grit and the toughness that Lamar Jackson has Like to be able?
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to last, like the way, the way Lamar Jackson plays in the play.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: As long as he has that way is kind of impressive.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is one of one.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels Um, he had three like he's built like Jacory.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Harris, he had three first round Three NFL receivers.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he had, he had the best receiving crew.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's built.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: He's built like Jacory Harris.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Another thing he's like six, four, like 210 pounds.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: You can't play the style that he plays.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at that size.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: You're not Cam Newton, right, you know?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I mean Justin Fields is significantly bigger than Jayden Daniels, but Jayden Daniels plays a similar style.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Well, justin Fields plays, and you can't run around.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you know, straight up running like the way he does.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I think the Patriots are big dudes.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Look at Anthony Richardson, dude.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: It's chiseled, chiseled up.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: They rocked up 250 pounds.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: He got put on the shelf for the season Trying to play that same kind of football, trying to run like he's a running back.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: You know, carry the ball 15 times a game, dude.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: That's, I think you're gonna do that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: You got to be Josh Allen.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Washington Are they gonna take?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: They'll have that so they can take the home cat town Heisman winner.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Are they gonna take Drake May?
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I think they should take Drake May as well.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I think they got to go with that.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I think everybody should take Drake May.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Everybody that doesn't trick take Drake May after the number one pick is making a mistake.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: And then it's almost like you got three quarterbacks and then it's on to the receivers.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Those will be like the First, those are your new like tears.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You have three quarterbacks and there's like three receivers Sprinkle in the draft, sprinkling the past rushers right, that's what you're gonna get or maybe a tackle.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, big, big monster inside.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe I think you might see edge guys go before you see interior.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because we've actually actually, since the last time we've had a episode man, we've had a lot of NFL news, we've had the, the combine and now free agency, yeah, yeah, it's happening real fast and we got and it happens, but there's plenty of time until the draft that you know you get the pre-agency moves now, you kind of see what people are looking for and then you'll be able to release kind of hope what teams are gonna play these free agents or what teams are gonna go with the rookies.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'll probably do 15 to 20 different mock drafts just the past time while on board at work between now and the draft.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got this first three and then you got the first three of the end of April right the guy from Washington.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like April 23rd, 24th or something like that I saw yeah, yeah, cuz we definitely can't talk.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Just a year ago, it was Miami making a run to the final four.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Matthew Cleveland poisoned the team.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Well, you got that and you lost a lot of guys.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: That really good.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Nope, I'm gonna blame.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Much easier and more accurate.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: It's.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Matthew Cleveland fault man, we still we still got a year.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: We still have what happens.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, miami, actually, I think, plays tonight again DC, but it doesn't matter.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, even if we make a run and win the ACC tournament, I mean I don't care, I'm so mad at the kids.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the heat are solid though.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that mean bad NBA.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: It's hard to get into it until the playoffs start.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: honestly, yeah, yeah, it's usually around Mother's Day when I actually start caring, like I like I've watched a handful of he games and See the heat.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen the heat with a full starting lineup yet.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like 80% of the league doesn't start caring until Mother's Day either.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: They just sort of they go out there, they stay loose and we go out there, get 20 points, whatever.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you just want to hover around like a mid-level seed in the playoffs and if you hover around there then you'll be good, turn it on in me.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but this free agency and then just like it some of the deals that were made just a year ago Look how bad they look like Daniel Jones deal.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I'm doing a Jones deal Now.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: they lost a seguin's going to the Eagles now.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: At least they signed.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Darren Waller for a bunch of money last year.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they went, they paid Brian Burns it's good, yeah, they got Brian Austin to like, I hope.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: You better win him a Super Bowl from a pass rusher spot man.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: But it's not gonna happen.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: They stole Brian Burns.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Well, he wanted out of Carolina.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but now and now the Giants are gonna have to pay him.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they did.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: If they stole him, they got Brian Burns for what like a second and a fifth round pick or something.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah oh, yeah, I mean they stole him, because Brian Burns is a beast of a pass rusher.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: He really is God.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I wish he would have played on better teams here Would have been nice, instead of ushering in the Taggart era Jesus.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: He's one good recruit one good recruit.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, he did one good recruit with Brian Burns, because Brian Burns is a he's a monster.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: So anything break me on the phone.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I said.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, he's, it's a great pickup, but he's just gonna waste in New York for three years.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: He's gonna waste away in in New York because the Giants are gonna be terrible for the next four years.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Who's gonna get Justin Fields?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I mean you.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: A lot of people thought.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Atlanta would be the target.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, that was.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: That was the hot.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I mean now you have Gardner Minshew, and with Vegas I mean Russell Wilson going on Steelers, I mean Jacobi Berset going to the Patriots, I mean who's gonna go out the Broncos, or like the Seahawks?
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Now you know.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I think that Seahawks actually makes sense for a couple different reasons.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks makes sense because Geno Smith is on the third year of that three year 100 million dollar contract he signed A couple years ago, yeah.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: And I also think that Geno Smith can relate To Justin Fields with the old nobody wants me thing.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: That's true, yeah.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Is it coaching?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Hey, you know, it's like nobody wants me.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Let me prove everybody wrong.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Here's my chance.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: And Geno Smith can be like.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I did it here, you can do it here and you know we'll do that, because he knows he's got.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: You know you're running out of options to get.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: People are gonna.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: We're not.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: What are you gonna do with them?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna get anything for them.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: There's not many more people that are the market people just wait are all right.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I think at this point is more valuable to Chicago to just use that number one pick To, like Justin said, try to pillage somebody, because they still have another top 10 pick, yeah, in their holster, yeah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I mean if you, if you're not in love with the quarterbacks or you think that you could get one of the guys that you like even later, you try to get as much as you can for that first another thing you never know if you're gonna get a guy in a fourth round.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: That's gonna turn into yeah, you know mystery relevant old there Bork party yeah.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Love the.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I love the first round.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Second round combo for the Saints.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: For first round draft Roma Dune's a, that monster wide receiver from Washington, yeah.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: And then, early in the second round, bonics.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: There you go, because now you got nice like Denver that don't have anybody, so there you have to think that they're waiting around draft a to pull something, and that that's probably when you see Justin Fields traded.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Well, and I also think, yeah, there's something missing.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think Vegas is actually signed Menchu to be the starter, like I think they just signed him just for like a thing but they gave him 25 million for two years that's yeah they some what they have there, that that he's gonna be playing.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: God, it's just kind of hard to comprehend that that would actually be the move.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think that's what I was saying.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: If you don't, there's such a, if you're not like Josh Allen, pat Mahomes, they just complete like you can win, as long as the guys don't screw it up with a guy who's learned it like a Baker Mayfield, but even him now are you gonna pay that much finding find a guy like James.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: One of your eight million dollars you could find, you know savvy veteran, your way to some playoff birds yeah.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm gonna run Dave Craig in here and then after he's doing a great.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Frank Reich's gonna step through that door.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Wade Wilson is gonna be my starting quarterback.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Never knows who's hungry.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: You're almost like you earn your money when you're not getting paid, so you know who's gonna get.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Who's gonna get that.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: The guy who's looking for the contract, who's who's gonna?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: That's what the race is now.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: It's almost like, oh, he did well, we have to pay him and you know the dolphins are about to pay 50 million right.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: So it's like you gotta yeah, do you like?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: What else are you gonna do?
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: What do you do?
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just gonna have to pay it.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe I just do short, high a lot of money, do a short-term deal.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: That way you get out if it doesn't work out.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, unless you got a freak just paying a bunch, guarantee it, but just make it short.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what a Kirk cousins has been doing for almost 10 years now.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: It's like three and four year guaranteed deals.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's you know, he's like hey.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I'm good enough.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Good enough, so give me that money, but I needed yeah, like don't.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Don't.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Don't pay me top end of the market, pay me middle of the market and just guarantee it, and I'll be here for three years.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: And then, in three years later, you still can't find another Josh Allen.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: So you're gonna sign me again for the same contract.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: What?
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: What's happening now?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You got the Raiders there's there's really Sam Darnold, there's those.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Those are the big ones the Sam Darnold signing is the one that really confuses me.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I Mean, if you're the Vikings, why?
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: are you guys?
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: And?
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Arnold, why are you gonna sign Sam Darnold and not prayed for Justin Fields if you're the Vikings?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, unless you say like you said, maybe draft night Fields demand will be weighed out, since nobody's Gone for him and then maybe you can get him for cheaper.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, lesser on a trade or something like that well, we'll find out what's.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: What's the best move so far, if you had to pick one.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: There's no, so far.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know that till next year.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you guess?
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: You had to rank them.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Honestly, you know what, when I like, I Like mix into the Texans, okay, I like mix into the Texans.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Dude, with CJ Stroud, single Terry as the other running back, you got single Terry and mix it as your two running backs.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Lot of big running back moves today.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Lot of big back's making a comeback, making some money.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Finally.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: See, that's a trend, or?
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: yeah, it's like the 90s again.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah well, I think the best move up.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: My favorite move is Patrick Queen to the Steelers.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what Mine is oh yeah.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I mean it's James, yeah, who do you have is going because of Jamie's it's.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: James, the Clemson guy in the Florida State guy, yep, be leading the Browns.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: They say see see, see, see, see I just think it's a.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, you saw what they did last year.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: That's going to be a lot of pressure on the show and watching.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: And he's coming off.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: No, no, it's absolutely Surgery.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I mean not pressure to make money but pressure to perform, because they I don't I think Stafansky has enough He'll bench him.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I think he had.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: He's proven that, I think he if he's going to get the nod to start the season.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: But if you got I think you got a hungry veteran in the back.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: It's a good pickup for them.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Nice fit for James.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: By if, if Cleveland is one in three heading into October, james starts.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, Well, you know, I actually don't mind men's shoe to Vegas.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: They have some weapons Like they just added Wilkinson to go with that crazy monster over there.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: He shuts your mouth.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: You shut your mouth, you whore son of a bitch.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins, my boy man, the guy I've been worried about since last off season.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: If anybody goes back and listens to us talking our podcast last off season, they will hear me complaining about not paying Christian Wilkins last off season.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Before the before the contract ended, I wanted to give him that fifth year extension and we didn't do it.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: And I knew it was going to come back and bite us man, yeah, yeah, I'm.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins though man that's a Christian Wilkins is top five DT.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was an NFL player coming out of high school.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: He went to Clemson and just it was easy for him.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we've got a guest.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: We've got postseason basketball to look forward to for the Knowles Maybe getting in the NIT baseball the baseball team hasn't lost.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Baseball teams looking good.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I was going to say they're like 13.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: They're getting their first win test of the season in Gainesville In.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Howelltown.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: So we'll watch that, we'll react to it, you're still winning.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk to you next time.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Kains took two or three from the Hoos on the North Florida Sports Network.