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What Jazz Thornton Does To Take Care Of Her Mental Health · Jono, Ben & Megan - The Podcast

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  Speaker 1: With the John and Ben podcast chairs to Dilma making
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  Speaker 1: the World a better tea.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Great to have you on again. We're having you on weekly.
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  Speaker 3: At the moment, do we start paying you? What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Ben deals with the Yeah, it's a.
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  Speaker 4: Bit backed out the invoices at the moment, but I'll
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  Speaker 4: get around to it at some stage.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, now, Jairs, mental Health Awareness Week.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, you couldn't think of anyone more perfect to speak
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  Speaker 3: to on a week such as this, So thank you
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  Speaker 3: very much for coming on with thought. We're just trying
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  Speaker 3: maybe get some some helpful tips and things off you
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  Speaker 3: for people who might be going through some stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course absolutely. I mean the very first thing
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  Speaker 2: and the biggest thing at the moment for me that
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  Speaker 2: I'm being so intentional about post COVID lockdowns, which I
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  Speaker 2: feel bad even saying the word COVID, but as human
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  Speaker 2: connection has been a big thing being so intentional about,
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  Speaker 2: like catching up with friends, going out, having coffee, getting
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  Speaker 2: off my damn devices, because I think we've been lacking
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  Speaker 2: human connection for so long now that it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: become normal to just do it through a screen. So
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  Speaker 2: that's probably been It's been a huge one for me
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  Speaker 2: over the last little while is making sure I'm prioritizing
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  Speaker 2: that and relationships.
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  Speaker 4: Has been a big thing because you know, someone who
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  Speaker 4: does spend probably a lot of their life on social
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  Speaker 4: media for what you do, you know, you do a
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  Speaker 4: lot of TikTok and Instagram and social media stuff. It's
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  Speaker 4: probably hard to find that balance sometimes, I say, even
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  Speaker 4: for you.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Oh, absolutely, my screen time is horrific, Like we
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  Speaker 2: don't even need to look at my screen time, but
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  Speaker 2: it's so bad. And I think we're also having like
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  Speaker 2: everything's easy to just like face time and zoom. But
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  Speaker 2: I think that makes us a lot more disconnected from
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  Speaker 2: those kind of more personal relationships. So something I've been
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  Speaker 2: a lot more intentional about at the moment.
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  Speaker 6: I think after COVID, we all just thought we'd go
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  Speaker 6: back to normal when we'd get used to it. But
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  Speaker 6: maybe it's a conscious effort we have to make to
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  Speaker 6: actually make time to physically meet our friends.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I think that our threshold has gone down. I
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  Speaker 2: think that it's taken out, like the ability to just
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  Speaker 2: actually be with someone. And so yeah, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: actually been harder than people anticipated aren't seeing differends as
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  Speaker 2: much as they would before COVID.
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  Speaker 5: I won't lie. There was a bit of me that
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  Speaker 5: was pretty happy not having to see people.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an I tell you, can.
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  Speaker 4: We talk about you know, there's people in your life
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  Speaker 4: that have helped you, you know, to get to where
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  Speaker 4: you are now. Doctor Steph is someone that I know,
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  Speaker 4: through talking to you, has been really special with you
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  Speaker 4: and someone you're still friends with today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she was a huge part of my journey.
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  Speaker 2: She was kind of the doctor that ultimately I will
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  Speaker 2: credit saving my life many years ago. And now it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of just become part of the family, which has
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  Speaker 2: been so amazing. And we've worked so much together kind
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  Speaker 2: of around the world now, which has been crazy. But
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  Speaker 2: having that person who is willing to kind of walk
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  Speaker 2: with you through the fire and then kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: be able to celebrate with you on the other side
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  Speaker 2: has been huge and such a big thing for me
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  Speaker 2: as well, to not as people walk out and leave,
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  Speaker 2: which you know, can be a fear if you're going
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  Speaker 2: to tell someone what's going on that you feel lifely
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  Speaker 2: gonna walk out or it's going to be too much.
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  Speaker 2: But she's stuck by me, and it really meant.
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  Speaker 4: I was just to say, because you know, we do
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  Speaker 4: talk a lot, and it's very important about your own
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  Speaker 4: mental health, but what you can also do for other
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  Speaker 4: people like you having that doctor Steph as well, you
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  Speaker 4: know that someone who helped you at the time as
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  Speaker 4: a young kid to get through a really horrible stage
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  Speaker 4: of your life. It was you know, it's hugely important
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  Speaker 4: and it's amazing to see that you're still friends.
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  Speaker 5: Your holiday together, we do, we do.
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  Speaker 2: We just look to fig for a fiftieth which was
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  Speaker 2: so fun and so like we were both just sitting
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  Speaker 2: there like, what the heck? We didn't think I would
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  Speaker 2: let alone be here, you know, and then be in
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  Speaker 2: cig to get to go on holiday and it's wild.
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  Speaker 2: But we're very thankful to still be here.
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  Speaker 5: We all have friends who have been through mental health issues.
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  Speaker 5: If you haven't been through them yourself, how you approach
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  Speaker 5: that conversation too.
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  Speaker 3: If you know someone's going through a tough time, if
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  Speaker 3: you are that person having a tough time, do you
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  Speaker 3: want to be spoken to or is it better to
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  Speaker 3: wait until they broach the topic.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think wait. I think that there's so much
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  Speaker 2: pressure on telling people to ask for help and not
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  Speaker 2: enough of telling people to reach in. I think that
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  Speaker 2: having like in New Zealand, we've created the one kind
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  Speaker 2: of sentence starter to be able to have these conversations.
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  Speaker 2: We've scripted it out of it, which is like how
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  Speaker 2: are you young?
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  Speaker 5: Good?
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  Speaker 2: Thanks? How are you moving on with your day? And
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  Speaker 2: we don't know what to do when someone breaks the
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  Speaker 2: script and so being able to like literally like someone
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  Speaker 2: says I'm not good, We're like, that's not being able to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, be like no, like how are you really doing?
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  Speaker 2: And even if they're not open with you at the start,
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  Speaker 2: like that consistency will enable them one day when they
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  Speaker 2: feel like you need to talk to know that you're there.
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  Speaker 2: I think if we step two around it, we're afraid
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  Speaker 2: of asking the questions, then we're just putting all of
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  Speaker 2: the pressure on the people that are struggling to ask
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  Speaker 2: for help, rather than trying to create spaces for them
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  Speaker 2: to do so. I agree.
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  Speaker 6: Like when I had a moment like years ago, I
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  Speaker 6: was dropping hints to lots of people. No one either
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  Speaker 6: they got the hint and they didn't want to say anything,
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  Speaker 6: or they just didn't get it. And then in the
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  Speaker 6: end my partner was the one that was are you okay?
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  Speaker 6: And there was a bit of relief, being like, oh no, actually,
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  Speaker 6: finally someone's got the hint, because I don't know when's
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  Speaker 6: the right moment because you feel like a burden. Who
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  Speaker 6: do you want to go? No, I'm not okay, you know,
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  Speaker 6: So I think I agree, like it's good. It's definitely
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  Speaker 6: good for people to ask your.
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  Speaker 2: Mates one hundred percent. And I do think like asking
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  Speaker 2: for help is obviously such a huge thing. But I
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  Speaker 2: also think that we know that we're telling that every
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  Speaker 2: single day. We're always telling people to reach it out.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like, you know, it will always continue
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  Speaker 1: to say that messaging, but it's just as important, Like
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  Speaker 1: mental health is not just something that is on the
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  Speaker 1: shoulders of those currently dealing with it. It's everyone's responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: We're all the ones that have to chicken on those
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  Speaker 1: around us.
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  Speaker 2: And so yeah, I think it makes the weight of
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  Speaker 2: it a little bit lighter knowing that we're all in
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  Speaker 2: it to get it.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 4: It's one thing today that people could try for their
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  Speaker 4: mental health. There's the one thing you can recommend obviously
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  Speaker 4: getting off your device or limiting that as a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely a good one. And the other one
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  Speaker 2: that I was so offended to find out actually worked
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  Speaker 2: was buddy, getting out and exercising and getting outside. Like
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  Speaker 2: I think, especially if you're in office jobs and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that as well, you get so wrapped up and
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  Speaker 2: everything that's kind of going on in computer screen and
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But even getting outside for like five
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  Speaker 2: ten minutes, you never underestimate that, Like I think that obviously,
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  Speaker 2: if you're in like a higher crisis hearing that is
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  Speaker 2: like that's not going to do anything. But when you're
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  Speaker 2: struggling with anxiety all things that are going on in
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  Speaker 2: your brain, getting outside, don't ever underestimate the power of that.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's get outside for five minutes, leave your office
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  Speaker 2: if you're allowed to, and just go get some fresh air.
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  Speaker 5: Tuesday dinner. What office you work and we chained to
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  Speaker 5: this desk.
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  Speaker 6: We can't even see outside.
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  Speaker 5: Tell us what it looks like out there?
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  Speaker 2: Is it daylight?
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  Speaker 3: Because I mean, obviously you're like everyone else chairs and
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  Speaker 3: you probably still have days which are better than others
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  Speaker 3: and some that are worse than others.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, I actually just had my new season my
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  Speaker 2: podcast just came out to that talked about a bigger
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  Speaker 2: experience that happened last year of having to kind of
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  Speaker 2: re goo back to the drawing board and having to
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  Speaker 2: relearn how to fight again and realizing that recovery is
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  Speaker 2: not linear and sometimes we just have to fight a
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  Speaker 2: little bit harder than before and that's okay, Like it's okay,
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  Speaker 2: and it's normal, a big the same as beating yourself
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  Speaker 2: up for getting a sprained ankle twice. Like it happens,
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  Speaker 2: and we just have to, you know, pick ourselves back
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  Speaker 2: up and go back to the things that we know
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  Speaker 2: of asking for help and all of those kind of
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  Speaker 2: everything I tell people to do every day and having
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  Speaker 2: to reach myself.
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  Speaker 5: That is that hard for you.
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  Speaker 3: Though, because you're the public face of it and then
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  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, now I'm having to go through it again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. I mean I didn't talk about
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  Speaker 2: it for a while. I got it was pretty dark
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  Speaker 2: last year, and I only had just talked about it
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  Speaker 2: now because you don't want to let people down and
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  Speaker 2: I know how many people have found hope and my story,
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  Speaker 2: so there was so much more pressure to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that I got up and got through it again. And
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't have done it without the people around me.
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  Speaker 2: But it was really interesting because my therapist actually, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I'm learning for a second here, But my therapist said
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  Speaker 2: at the time, I was like, I don't understand how
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  Speaker 2: I'm back here again and I'm feeling all these things again.
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  Speaker 2: And she just said, Jazz, the feelings are the same,
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  Speaker 2: but your response is different, Like you have grown so
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  Speaker 2: much more than you think, so you're asking for hell earlier,
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  Speaker 2: you're doing these things. And it was really validating for
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  Speaker 2: me to hear, Oh, that's good.
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  Speaker 6: You're never letting us down, but you know, feeling however
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  Speaker 6: you feel, it's all valid and you're not letting anyone
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  Speaker 6: down by any mean.
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  Speaker 5: But I completely understand why you'd put that pressure on
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  Speaker 5: yoursel phone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got there. We got there. Now. I'm actually
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  Speaker 2: currently sitting outside my therapist's office as we speak. Therapy
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  Speaker 2: is good. It's everyone to go it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, geez, I hope she doesn't charge by the minute
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  Speaker 3: because we've held you off.
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  Speaker 5: Hope is real.
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  Speaker 3: With Jazz Thornton new podcast series is out now on
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  Speaker 3: iHeart Radio wherever you get your podcasts from.
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  Speaker 5: In jas it's always a pleasure talking with you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, well, thank you guys.