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Zelensky - Putin doesnt know how to end this war · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: As the president, Kia feels very different than it has
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  Speaker 1: over the last few years. People used to just walk
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  Speaker 1: calmly during air raid sirens. Now we see them run
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  Speaker 1: to the subway to shelters. How do you prepare a
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  Speaker 1: city of this size for the extra shock of this
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  Speaker 1: new wave of Russian ballistic missile attack?
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  Speaker 2: Each night you have attacks, and four or five times
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  Speaker 2: per month we have massive attacks. People live, people try
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  Speaker 2: to have some sun and try to spend of course
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  Speaker 2: because of terrible nights. Very heroic, very resilient people really,
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  Speaker 2: but they tied understandable.
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  Speaker 1: Are you out of interceptors now? Do you have none left?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 4: I will explain to you how it works.
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  Speaker 2: So this year we have two and a half times
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  Speaker 2: less interceptors than we had in twenty twenty five. First,
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  Speaker 2: Russia has two times more ballistic missiles per month than
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  Speaker 2: they had before. We pay one hundred percent to Americas.
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  Speaker 2: I have the package from the United States and then
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  Speaker 2: my personal involvement. It doesn't work either way. It's my
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  Speaker 2: personal talks, meetings and phones, phone calls each jay with everybody,
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  Speaker 2: I try to exchange something to missiles.
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  Speaker 4: This year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm asking American partners to sell me five percent, five
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  Speaker 2: percent of missiles what they have in their stocks. If
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  Speaker 2: they sell us five percent, we will go through the
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  Speaker 2: winter and save people life. If they can sell us
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  Speaker 2: ten percent, we will destroy all the Russians ballistic missions.
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  Speaker 1: And has that request been answered yet? Have you had
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  Speaker 1: a clear indication of the whether.
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  Speaker 2: The answer is for today is next? I have one percent.
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  Speaker 2: This is in what I live each day.
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  Speaker 4: From one percent to five percent. I have some you know,
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  Speaker 4: some months and million phone.
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  Speaker 2: Calls and anything else. What can I do? I do
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  Speaker 2: some things which I can't even share. It's not it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it's out of the law, No, but
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  Speaker 2: it's I can't speak about it.
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  Speaker 1: Have you picked up the phone to President Trump and
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  Speaker 1: asked for that assurance? Since you may Washington To.
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  Speaker 2: Be honest, I'm asking him through directly. I'm asking him
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  Speaker 2: when I have meetings, when we have phone calls, and
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  Speaker 2: be I'm asking him through different other people.
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  Speaker 1: Also, you suggested yesterday that you made new proposals to
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  Speaker 1: the American side for a peace deal or were there
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  Speaker 1: specific new ideas in this No.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want now to go to some details.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we first my opinion that we need more involvement
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  Speaker 2: of the American side to the peace plan. I know
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  Speaker 2: that they have some dialogo with Russians. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: details really, but it's.
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  Speaker 4: Normal.
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  Speaker 2: Putin doesn't want to stop this war now and not
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  Speaker 2: enough pressure on him now.
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  Speaker 1: But there was one idea that was floated in earlier
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  Speaker 1: versions of the peace talks where potentially you might see
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  Speaker 1: the remainder of don Bass in order to get a
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  Speaker 1: more lasting piece. And a year later, lots of those
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  Speaker 1: areas of don Bass very hard for Ukrainian civilians to
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  Speaker 1: live in from drone attacks increase, saying it does not
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  Speaker 1: concession seem more possible to you at the stage than
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  Speaker 1: it was a year ago.
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  Speaker 4: Now the problem is security for Ukraine. We always speak
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  Speaker 4: about territory.
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  Speaker 2: Russia begins to speak about this war and they speak
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  Speaker 2: about territory.
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  Speaker 4: The key question is why he will not come again
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  Speaker 4: with one.
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  Speaker 2: Two additional million soldiers after the big pause or small pause,
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  Speaker 2: Why he will not come again occupy us? What security
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  Speaker 2: guarantees you have? And there is no answer. There is
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  Speaker 2: no answer clear answer for us that he will not
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  Speaker 2: to try again to occupy to Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: You don't feel as riskly he may escalate against NATO
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  Speaker 1: or is he too weak for that?
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  Speaker 2: At the stage he doesn't know how to end this
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  Speaker 2: war without big occupation or big victory for his society.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't understand how to do it. It's more simply
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  Speaker 2: to find some smaller country for him. It will not
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  Speaker 2: be important this country in NATO or not in NATO.
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  Speaker 2: He wants quick victory one hundred percent, be sure that
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  Speaker 2: he will win, occupy or destroy all control.
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  Speaker 4: It can be any country.
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  Speaker 3: And Nick Payton Moore shows us now from Kiev, I
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  Speaker 3: mean next, such a great interview there because he was
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  Speaker 3: so candid and really went to the heart of so
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  Speaker 3: many issues. You have been in and out of Ukraine
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  Speaker 3: so many times during this conflict. Going into the winter,
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  Speaker 3: he really put a few key points on the line
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  Speaker 3: there in terms of having a dialogue, in terms of
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  Speaker 3: what he thinks Putin's conditions would be, but also in
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  Speaker 3: terms of what allies, especially the United States could offer
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  Speaker 3: in terms of security guarantees. Is it apparent to you
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  Speaker 3: going into winter that he is optimistic?
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  Speaker 1: I think the shortest answer is really no. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a start change from three months ago and when we
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  Speaker 1: were here essentially to report on how Ukraine had managed
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  Speaker 1: to harness technology to get over its manpower shortages and
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  Speaker 1: to get the upper hand on the front lines, but
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  Speaker 1: also with longer range strikes hitting Russian refineries and infrastructure
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  Speaker 1: and the damage that was causing. Now the narrative has,
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately here swung back three months later. Zelenski himself has
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  Speaker 1: said the war seems to change dynamic every three months,
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  Speaker 1: and now it's Ukraine desperately in need of interceptors to
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  Speaker 1: stop Russian ballistic missiles that must have been surging in
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  Speaker 1: production for years months now but are now at to
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  Speaker 1: peak and look likely to continue to increase, possibly far
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  Speaker 1: outside of whatever interceptor capabilities Ukraine may eventually get. And
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  Speaker 1: that appeal from Lensky was directly at one man, really,
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  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump, and we asked the White House for
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  Speaker 1: a response to it, and an official from the White
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  Speaker 1: House said, well, not what Zelenski wants to hear. Ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: that the exquisite weapon near the United States is something
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  Speaker 1: they were looking to make more of for the US warfighter,
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  Speaker 1: but for partners and allies too, echoing what we've been
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  Speaker 1: hearing that there is no guarantee or decision made about
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  Speaker 1: future coproduction or decisions to allow Ukraine to produce interceptors
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  Speaker 1: for themselves, a keyth in Ukraine wants the license to
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  Speaker 1: do that. Trump said he would give it to them.
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  Speaker 1: Then the manufacturers appear to have shown some concerns, and
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  Speaker 1: then Trump wavered later on that's still undecided, not happening,
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  Speaker 1: and too echoing that the White House said that any
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  Speaker 1: future activity had to keep the security of US technology
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  Speaker 1: paramount So no news from that plea. And clearly a
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  Speaker 1: global shortage now is the result of the conflict with Iran,
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  Speaker 1: meaning that every night here when the sirens go off
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  Speaker 1: and the telegram channels that often warn of that are
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  Speaker 1: suggesting the possibility of that again tonight. It's long since
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  Speaker 1: a last massive attack against Ukraine that we could hear
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  Speaker 1: the sirens causing people to know they have to sleep
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  Speaker 1: underground again because the safety they'd enjoyed for years because
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  Speaker 1: of the interceptor program, where it's now in doubt, if
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  Speaker 1: not nonexistent, And so a real sense, I think this
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  Speaker 1: ballistic threat can damage infrastructure, morale, and potentially cause extensive
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  Speaker 1: damage in Ukraine's cities hitherto now pretty safe comparatively compare
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  Speaker 1: to the front line, and that together with Ukraine warning
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  Speaker 1: of North Korean troop involvement, the possibility of a mass
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  Speaker 1: Russian mobilization after Russia's local elections in September, and the
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  Speaker 1: slow erosion of their positions along the front line. It's
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  Speaker 1: not been a good summer for Russia there at all,
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  Speaker 1: massive losses, very little progress. But we're seeing slight signs
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  Speaker 1: they may be edging forwards that we're looking at a
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  Speaker 1: bleak winter.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, Nick Payton, wallsh it is good to have you
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  Speaker 3: on the ground there, and again you do know given
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  Speaker 3: the time that any moment now Ukrainian civilians feel that
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  Speaker 3: they are at risk, and that is a quite different
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  Speaker 3: feeling than they had in years past. Nick Peyton, mass
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  Speaker 3: for us and Kee appreciate it.