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Bonus Episode: Extreme Music, Extremely Bad Things, and Always Doing the Right Thing · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 2: This is the podcast.
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Speaker 1: It comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we
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Speaker 2: like to call the after party. This is the show
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Speaker 2: after the show, the party after the party. The bridge
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Speaker 2: to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to
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Speaker 2: the other. The backyard, to dig into the dirt, our
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Speaker 2: mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to
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Speaker 2: reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, the person that
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Speaker 2: you expected to be here behind the mic talking to
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Speaker 2: all of you beautiful people out there. The man, the myth,
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Speaker 2: the legend, Jake Brennan. Jake is stuck. Man. He's at
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Speaker 2: the airport, He's at the terminal. He's hanging on the telephone,
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Speaker 2: flight after flight canceled. And so just like he is
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Speaker 2: stuck in aviation purgatory, so too, you are stuck with
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Speaker 2: me today the good doctor, doctor Lundy, talking about extreme
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Speaker 2: music and extreme moments from music history. Plus we've got
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Speaker 2: a brand new spanked episode of this film should be
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Speaker 2: played loud to talk about all right, discos, let's get
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Speaker 2: into it. It's true, guys, this is a first. The
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Speaker 2: after party will not be hosted by Jake as usual today.
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Speaker 2: This is not a drill. This ain't no prank. I'm
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Speaker 2: not fool in, as Def Leppard would say, I was
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Speaker 2: absolutely telling you the truth earlier. Typically, the way this
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Speaker 2: works is that Jake writes and records these after party
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Speaker 2: episodes on Wednesdays. He and I taped the exclusive all
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Speaker 2: access portion on Wednesday Day as well, and then of
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Speaker 2: course they're released into the wild on Thursdays. But Jake
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Speaker 2: called me on Tuesday afternoon this week. He's been traveling
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Speaker 2: with his family, and he called me to say that
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Speaker 2: his flight home that night had been canceled, and by
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Speaker 2: the time his rescheduled flight got him back on the
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Speaker 2: saddle the next day, he wouldn't have enough time to
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Speaker 2: write and record the after party. So here we are.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, Elvis Costello when he used to
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Speaker 2: guest host for Letterman when Letterman went on vacation, and
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Speaker 2: I'm psyched to be here. Actually, you know, I really
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Speaker 2: am talking with all of you discos because you guys
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Speaker 2: are the best. You know that, and I know that
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Speaker 2: a lot of you are already probably familiar with my
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Speaker 2: voice since I host the rap party over in our
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Speaker 2: sister show, Hollywood Land. But all that said, thanks for
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Speaker 2: bearing with us here. And you know, like Steve Winwood
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Speaker 2: once said, you got to roll with it. Speaking of
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Speaker 2: roll with it, that's a song that the band Slipknot
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Speaker 2: would likely never cover. Well, I don't know, never say never.
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Speaker 2: Did you guys know that? Way back in the day,
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Speaker 2: way back in the early days of Slipknot, they covered
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Speaker 2: the Humpty Dance by Digital Underground. Hell yeah, man, my
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Speaker 2: name is Humpty pronounced with an umpty. How I'd like
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Speaker 2: to funk? The slip Knot definitely one of the most
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Speaker 2: extreme sounding bands we've ever covered here in Disgraceland. I
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Speaker 2: was thinking about the other bands and artists that we've
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Speaker 2: covered that are in a similar extreme sounding zone. There's
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Speaker 2: Mayhem and Bursham and all the bands at the center
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Speaker 2: of the Norwegian black metal scene that we covered way
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Speaker 2: back in season one. There's gg Allen we covered him
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Speaker 2: in season two. Pantera and the Murder of Dimebag Darryl
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Speaker 2: Metallica early Metallica, which features in our story about the
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Speaker 2: tragic death of their original bassist Cliff Burton Pentagram perhaps,
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Speaker 2: but of course, in the case of slip Knot, their
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Speaker 2: music has been accused of being so extreme that it
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Speaker 2: led in one case, to murder. Back in two thousand
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Speaker 2: and three, in sam Bernardino, California, twenty two year old
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Speaker 2: Terry Ray Taylor was brewly murdered by a twenty year
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Speaker 2: old and a sixteen year old who said that they
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Speaker 2: had been listening to Slipknot immediately before and after the murder,
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Speaker 2: specifically the song Disaster Piece, which was analyzed by authorities
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Speaker 2: as this case went to trial. I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: burn this story here. You can hear all about it
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Speaker 2: in our new episode on Slipknot that just hit your
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Speaker 2: feed this week on Tuesday. It's right behind this episode
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Speaker 2: if you haven't listened to it yet. And as I
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Speaker 2: know you guys know, this, of course isn't the first
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Speaker 2: time that music, rock and roll, heavy metal, whatever you
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Speaker 2: want to call it, has been put in the hot
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Speaker 2: seat when something truly bad happens. We've covered a lot
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Speaker 2: of these stories here, as you guys know, but here
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Speaker 2: are some of the most disgraceful instances of music being
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Speaker 2: blamed for extreme violence. In nineteen eighty five, two teenagers
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Speaker 2: in Nevada entered a suicide pact. One died, the other
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Speaker 2: one sustained severe injuries. Their families later sued Judas Priest,
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Speaker 2: claiming that the band had purposefully inserted the phrase do
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Speaker 2: it into their song better by You, Better by Me.
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Speaker 2: Also in nineteen eighty five, the family of a nineteen
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Speaker 2: year old Indio, California boy who had taken his own
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Speaker 2: life the year prior, sued Ozzy Osbourne, alleging that the
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Speaker 2: tragedy happened after he listened to Ozzie's Son Suicide Solution.
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Speaker 2: In two thousand, the parents of a fifteen year old
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Speaker 2: girl who had been murdered a few years prior by
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Speaker 2: a group of teenage boys sued Slayer, claiming that the
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Speaker 2: band's music had inspired the killing. And then there's all
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Speaker 2: the stuff with the Beatles and Charles Manson, the Helter
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Speaker 2: Skelter thing, the party line about Manson being inspired by
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Speaker 2: the White album to start a race war. There's ACDC
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Speaker 2: and the night Stalker Richard Ramirez, a fan of the band,
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Speaker 2: and the ACDC hat left behind at one of the
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Speaker 2: crime scenes, and how the band was blamed in the press.
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Speaker 2: For inspiring that killing spree. Heavy music. Extreme music always
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Speaker 2: had this stigma attached to it. When I was growing
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Speaker 2: up back in the nineteen eighties, you didn't fuck with
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Speaker 2: the dudes who listened to Priest or Slayer or early Metallica. Okay,
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Speaker 2: they wore jean jackets and they grew peach fuzz mustaches.
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Speaker 2: You crossed the street when they were coming your way.
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Speaker 2: They were these social outcasts who were into weird shit,
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Speaker 2: extreme shit, or so went the thinking. It's really fucked
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Speaker 2: up to me, you know. Once I grew up and
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Speaker 2: realized that the stigma what I believed about extreme music people,
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Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, it was fabricated by
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Speaker 2: so called polite society, you know, and then the flames
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Speaker 2: were fanned by the media to turn us against the
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Speaker 2: kind of music that again so called polite society found offensive.
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Speaker 2: The same thing would happen with hip hop as well,
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Speaker 2: though by that time I was catching on and figuring
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Speaker 2: the shit out.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: It's also funny to get older and to discover that
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Speaker 2: the metal community or the hardcore community, these subcultures of
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Speaker 2: quote unquote extreme music were actually full of some of
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Speaker 2: the nicest people, people who were not at all what
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Speaker 2: they appeared to be to kids like me, extremely uncool
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Speaker 2: kids who were blasting Huey Lewis and John Mellencamp and
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Speaker 2: oldies radio. I will fully own how uncool I was
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Speaker 2: when I was a kid, by the way, But you know,
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Speaker 2: be thinking about all this, be thinking about extreme music
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Speaker 2: and the stigma of these you know, musical subcultures while
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Speaker 2: you're listening to our new episode on Slipknot, which is
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Speaker 2: in your feed right now. Coming up next right after
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Speaker 2: this after Party is our Rewind episode from our archive
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Speaker 2: on Talking Heads. This was originally released on July ninth,
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. This episode deals with New York City
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Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies when a psycho killer was on
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Speaker 2: the loose. You don't want to miss this episode. Listen
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Speaker 2: to it to find out all about all the crazy
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Speaker 2: shit that was happening in New York at this time,
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Speaker 2: not only the son of Sam who was terrorizing all
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Speaker 2: five Burrows, but you know, the blackouts, the trash strikes,
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Speaker 2: the Yankees on a tear, and how all of it
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Speaker 2: coincided with the birth of punk rock. Then after the Rewind,
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Speaker 2: coming next Tuesday, We've got a brand new episode on
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Speaker 2: John Fruscante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Also, it's
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Speaker 2: about River Phoenix and about how River Phoenix really died.
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Speaker 2: John and River were friends. River Phoenix, if those who
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Speaker 2: don't know, was also a musician he had a band.
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Speaker 2: We covered Rivers story previously in Hollywood Land, but now
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Speaker 2: this is the John Fruschante story, largely set during the
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Speaker 2: making of Bloodshe Sex Magic and immediately thereafter. And then
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Speaker 2: to bridge the gap here between, We've got Slipknot this
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Speaker 2: week and then the Chili Peppers next week. Later here
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Speaker 2: in the exclusive portion of this episode, I'm going to
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Speaker 2: dig into the history of the Mansion, which is the
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Speaker 2: house on Laurel Canyon Boulevard in Los Angeles that Rick
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Speaker 2: Rubin purchased and turned into a recording studio, a studio
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Speaker 2: and a house that is allegedly haunted according to bands
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Speaker 2: like Slipknot and the Chili Peppers who have recorded there.
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Speaker 2: And I'm also going to talk about other supposedly haunted
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Speaker 2: recording studios as well. These are some really freaky stories, guys,
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Speaker 2: some that you probably have heard and others that you'd
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Speaker 2: never heard. And again I'm going to talk about that
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Speaker 2: later in the exclusive portion. If you're not yet a
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Speaker 2: member of disgrace Land All Access, which is how you
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Speaker 2: hear the exclusive portion of the after party, just go
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Speaker 2: to disgrace landpod dot com to sign up today. Perks
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Speaker 2: of membership include ad free listening of all Disgraceland and
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Speaker 2: Hollywood Land episodes, plus bonus material like the exclusive section
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about, and if you join on Patreon, you
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Speaker 2: also get access to our monthly video podcast, This Film
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Speaker 2: Should Be Played Loud, co hosted by Yours Truly and
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Speaker 2: Jake Brennan, all about the greatest music in some of
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Speaker 2: our favorite movies of all time. Now, when you're listening
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Speaker 2: next week to our brand new episode of Disgraceland on
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Speaker 2: John Fruschante, be thinking about the nineteen nineties, all right,
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Speaker 2: Be thinking about your favorite songs from the nineteen nineties
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Speaker 2: and what made them resonate so much with you. Maybe
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Speaker 2: it's a song like the Chili Peppers under the Bridge,
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Speaker 2: which is dominated so much by Fruschonte's like iconic guitar part.
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Speaker 2: Or maybe it's something much more underground than that. Let
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Speaker 2: us know. Give us a call, send us attack six
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Speaker 2: one seven nine oh six six six three eight. You
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Speaker 2: can also email us Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com
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Speaker 2: or hit us up on the socials at Disgrace Lampod
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Speaker 2: and you might hear your answer on next week's after party.
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Speaker 2: All right, Discos, I'm gonna take a real quick break here,
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Speaker 2: but when we come back, i'm gonna have your voicemails, texts,
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Speaker 2: dms and more. So don't nobody go nowhere. Okay, So
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Speaker 2: you want to be a rock and roll star, then
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Speaker 2: listen how here what I say. I'm in the phone booth.
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Speaker 2: It's the one across the hall discos six one seven
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Speaker 2: nine oh six six six three eight. That's how you
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Speaker 2: get in touch and participate in the after party real quick.
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Speaker 2: Before I get to your calls and your texts and stuff.
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to mention guys. This just came across
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Speaker 2: the news as I was preparing to record this this morning,
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Speaker 2: but word came down that Glen Hansard, the great Irish
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Speaker 2: singer songwriter, Oscar winning songwriter, has died at the age
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Speaker 2: of fifty six. He was killed in a motorcycle crash
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Speaker 2: in Dublin. Glenn Hansard was in this band called The
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Speaker 2: Frames and then later in the Swell Season, and he
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Speaker 2: co starred in a great movie from two thousand and
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Speaker 2: seven called Once, about a couple of struggling musicians in Dublin.
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Speaker 2: His song Falling Slowly from that film won him an
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Speaker 2: Academy Award. That was the first time I had ever
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Speaker 2: heard of Glenn Hansard. I think a lot of us
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Speaker 2: here in the States heard about him for the first
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Speaker 2: time with that movie. Totally worth checking out if you
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Speaker 2: haven't seen it. It felt very original and very fresh
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Speaker 2: when it was released. And this is really shitty news.
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Speaker 2: I'm rip to Glenn Hanswred all right, So, as promised,
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Speaker 2: we're going to hear from you guys, and first we're
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Speaker 2: going to go over to the two one four. We
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Speaker 2: got a call here from d who has an awesome
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Speaker 2: Slipknot story for us. D take it away.
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Speaker 4: Hey, Jake, be from Dallas. It's been a while and
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Speaker 4: I just listened to your slip Knot episode and I
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Speaker 4: had to call and tell you about my interaction with them.
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Speaker 4: I want to say. It was two thousand and four
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Speaker 4: and oz Fest was in town. We didn't have the
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Speaker 4: cash to go to the show, but we did have
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Speaker 4: a plan to hopefully meet up with some of the bands.
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Speaker 4: After the show, we went to the Clubhouse in Dallas,
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Speaker 4: as you know, which was opened by Vinnie Paul and
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Speaker 4: dine back Darrell from Pantera, as it was always the
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Speaker 4: final destination of any reputable bands. We got there early
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Speaker 4: and we're watching people as they came in. Tall guy
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Speaker 4: at the bar who was wearing an Exorcist T shirt
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Speaker 4: was like, Oh, that's a really fucking cool hurt. Let
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Speaker 4: me go find out where he got it. And so
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Speaker 4: I went to him and asked, and he said, oh,
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Speaker 4: someone gave it to me backstage. And I said back stage,
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Speaker 4: what are you talking about? And he said, my name
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Speaker 4: is Cory and I'm in a band that you probably
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Speaker 4: haven't heard of called Fripknot. That's right, Are you fucking
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Speaker 4: kidding me? I said, please, don't go anywhere. I went
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Speaker 4: got my husband came back and we said we are
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Speaker 4: huge and we love what you guys are doing. You
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Speaker 4: guys are just going to be megastars. And he thanked
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Speaker 4: us and was very He was so sweet and so kind,
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Speaker 4: and as he started to walk away, he turned back
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Speaker 4: and gave us like the universal like, hey, come with me,
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Speaker 4: And we ended up at a table where later Twiggy Ramirez,
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Speaker 4: Marilyn Manson and what I can only assume are additional
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Speaker 4: members of Slip Knot, and also Vinnie Paul and the
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Speaker 4: biggest bottle of tequila I've ever seen in my life.
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Speaker 4: We partied, had a great time. There were girls everywhere.
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Speaker 4: We didn't have to worry about this thing. And as
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Speaker 4: we're leaving, Vinny Paul is at the door and in
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Speaker 4: his gravelly voice is like, you guys aren't driving right, No,
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Speaker 4: we're not driving. We're responsible. We're going to get a cabin.
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Speaker 4: He said, no, you're not. He arranged for us a
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Speaker 4: private town car to take us back to our room.
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Speaker 4: And I just wanted to say a huge thank you
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Speaker 4: to Corey. I always knew you guys were gonna make
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Speaker 4: it and just be super megastars. I just want to
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Speaker 4: thank you for one of the most memorable moments of
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Speaker 4: my life. I've always been a fan of metal, I've
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Speaker 4: done VIP backstage, and that night was still, to this day,
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Speaker 4: hands down my best rock and roll experience. So thank you, Corey,
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Speaker 4: and I hope you get to hear it.
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Speaker 2: D that is that is an incredible story. Thank you
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Speaker 2: so much for calling in and sharing that with us all,
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Speaker 2: and you're proving my point from earlier, the whole like
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Speaker 2: stigma that we had back in the day of like
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Speaker 2: extreme music makers and listeners and how they're the nicest
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Speaker 2: fucking people, you know what I mean. For those of
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Speaker 2: you who know, if you know, you know, like you're
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Speaker 2: not surprised by this story at all, but you know,
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Speaker 2: eleven year old me back in nineteen eighty six or
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Speaker 2: seven or eight, whatever, would have been very fucking surprised
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Speaker 2: by this so incredible story. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: calling in d love that love to hear from you.
16:42
Speaker 2: We got another voicemail here from the six one seven
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Speaker 2: from let's see Jake in the six one seven. Let's
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Speaker 2: take a listen to this.
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Speaker 3: Hey, this is Jake in the six one seven. What's up?
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Speaker 3: My first question is, what in the hell is going on?
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Speaker 3: Where are you? Wait? By you, I mean me, where
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Speaker 3: am I? I'm in Boston. I am stuck here. And
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Speaker 3: you might be like, why how do you get stuck in? Boss? Well,
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Speaker 3: the weather apparently up there in the skies has made
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Speaker 3: for some tough flyings, so our flight was Canceled's supposed
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Speaker 3: to be back recording the after party I'm not zess.
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Speaker 3: I know. I said I was going to be back Thursday.
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Speaker 3: It's now looking like I'm going to be back on Saturday.
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Speaker 3: But guys, have no fear all as well. Everybody's healthy,
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Speaker 3: everybody's got all the fingers and toes.
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Speaker 4: It's all good.
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Speaker 3: Life could be much worse, it's not, Thankfully, Hopefully we
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Speaker 3: get home safely.
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Speaker 4: What's going on?
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Speaker 3: What's happening? What do you I don't even know what
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Speaker 3: you're talking about there. I guess we had the slipnot
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Speaker 3: episode this weekend. We had Dollar parton last weekend. We've
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Speaker 3: got John Frusciante coming up next week, which I'm very,
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Speaker 3: very very excited about. I can't wait for you guys
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Speaker 3: to hear the story. It's not just the story of
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Speaker 3: John Frusciante. It's the story of John and his pal
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Speaker 3: Ruver Phoenix, and the idea that some people have that
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Speaker 3: John had something to do with River's death, and that
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Speaker 3: he was more than something to do with it. The
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Speaker 3: idea a leegendly that he was directly responsible for River's death.
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Speaker 3: So we get into all of that Johnny Death's Fifer Room.
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Speaker 3: That's all coming out next week. I can't wait to
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Speaker 3: talk to you all about it. Han't fun up here.
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Speaker 3: Went to a SOCX game. They're out of town now,
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Speaker 3: they're not on the West Coast, and I want to
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Speaker 3: see my dad play with his BANDI other n I
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Speaker 3: brought my kids. My eight year old had a Jay
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Speaker 3: Giles T shirt on. Some drunk dude went up to him,
18:35
Speaker 3: sat down right at our table and was like, why
18:38
Speaker 3: do you like Jay Giles? Think very kind of ornery.
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Speaker 3: And I got to say, my son handled himself very well.
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Speaker 3: He was prepared for the moment. He immediately responded. He said, well,
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Speaker 3: I liked him because my three favorite songs are must
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Speaker 3: Have Got Lost, Angel in the Centerfold, and Free s Frame.
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Speaker 3: And then the guy pressed him even harder. He was like,
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Speaker 3: how did you learn about Jay Giles? He said, well,
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Speaker 3: I heard Angel in the Centerfold and then I saw
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Speaker 3: the cassette at a store and I bought it and
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Speaker 3: I put it on and I was like, I like
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Speaker 3: this band. And then the guy offered a BioMA Corona.
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Speaker 3: It was fantastic. So yeah, we're having fun in Boston.
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Speaker 3: I can't wait to get back though, and back in
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Speaker 3: the chair talking to all you guys into the microphone.
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Speaker 3: Big thank you Zef for holding it down in my absence.
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Speaker 3: Lots of cool stuff coming your way guys very shortly. Again,
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Speaker 3: can't wait to talk about that Foshanty episode with you
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Speaker 3: that's next week.
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Speaker 2: I thought that was you, Jake, Oh, sneaky, sneaky. Great
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Speaker 2: to hear your voice. That sucks that you guys are
19:46
Speaker 2: stuck there until Saturday. Hopefully you don't meet any more
19:48
Speaker 2: ornery Jay Giles fans like, give the fucking kid a
19:51
Speaker 2: break man. You know, he gave you his three favorite
19:54
Speaker 2: songs like why do you have to press him even harder?
19:58
Speaker 2: And I'm also glad you got to see the right socks,
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Speaker 2: though I'd like to blow your cover there or out
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Speaker 2: your little secret and let people know that you guys attended.
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Speaker 2: I believe the game in which they lost their wind streak, right,
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Speaker 2: they were on like a fifteen game win streak and
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Speaker 2: then you guys went and they lost. So I don't
20:15
Speaker 2: know do with that what you but yeah, I'm excited
20:20
Speaker 2: to hear this John Freschante episode next week as well.
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Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned River Phoenix, who's a big part
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Speaker 2: of this episode, and I remember when I wrote the
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Speaker 2: River Phoenix episode for Hollywood Land you know, this subject
20:32
Speaker 2: came up about free Chante and River's death and stuff,
20:35
Speaker 2: and I just didn't I didn't even want to touch
20:37
Speaker 2: it with a ten foot pole. So I may have
20:39
Speaker 2: alluded to it at some point in the episode, but
20:41
Speaker 2: I didn't really get into it. But of course leave
20:43
Speaker 2: it to Jake to figure out a really thoughtful, creative
20:47
Speaker 2: way to get into this, to talk about it, to
20:50
Speaker 2: face it head on, and to come out at the
20:51
Speaker 2: end with some conclusions. So anyways, good to hear from
20:55
Speaker 2: your brother, and looking forward to having you back in
20:57
Speaker 2: the saddle here with us again soon, barring any more
21:01
Speaker 2: crazy ass Boston weather, which I think it's sunny there.
21:05
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure what the issue is with the weather.
21:08
Speaker 2: Jake Brennan will return to the after Party next week. Meanwhile,
21:12
Speaker 2: let's get on to some other text messages we've got here.
21:14
Speaker 2: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight
21:17
Speaker 2: is how you get in touch. We got a text
21:20
Speaker 2: here from the two to oh three and it reads, Hi,
21:23
Speaker 2: Jake and Zeth, this is Melissa from the two oh three.
21:26
Speaker 2: I heard you mention that there will be a Smashing
21:28
Speaker 2: Pumpkins episode coming up. I will of course listen, but
21:32
Speaker 2: I have never been into those guys. I went to
21:34
Speaker 2: Lallapalooza in nineteen ninety four with my friend Walter. The
21:37
Speaker 2: b C Boys played second to last and Smashing Pumpkins
21:41
Speaker 2: were the headliners. Five minutes into Smashing Pumpkins, Walter and
21:44
Speaker 2: I looked at each other and said, let's get out
21:46
Speaker 2: of here. That festival was amazing back then, but I
21:49
Speaker 2: still cannot understand how the Smashing Pumpkins were the headliners
21:52
Speaker 2: over the Beastie Boys. Fun fact, I heard on one
21:55
Speaker 2: of those MTV shows that the name for Hello Nasty,
21:59
Speaker 2: which is a Beast Boys record, came from a receptionist
22:02
Speaker 2: answering the phone and saying hello Nasty. The business was
22:05
Speaker 2: part of their production or management team, and the full
22:08
Speaker 2: name had the word nasty in it. Thanks for all
22:11
Speaker 2: the pods. Rock a rolla Melissa, great great message here.
22:16
Speaker 2: Lots to get into here. First of all, yes, Hello Nasty.
22:19
Speaker 2: The BC Boys record was named after their publicity their
22:23
Speaker 2: PR firm called Nasty little Man, and they would answer
22:27
Speaker 2: the people would answer the phone Hello Nasty, And that's
22:29
Speaker 2: and that's where that that phrase came from. When I
22:32
Speaker 2: was a music critic in my former life, worked with
22:36
Speaker 2: Nasty Little Man a lot. They represented a lot of
22:38
Speaker 2: a really really big great artists like the Beasts and
22:41
Speaker 2: and Beck and Paul McCartney and Foo Fighters and all
22:44
Speaker 2: the all the heavy hitters were with Nasty Little Man,
22:47
Speaker 2: it seemed. And also the guy that ran that company
22:49
Speaker 2: was named Steve Martin, but it wasn't the Steve Martin.
22:51
Speaker 2: It was Nasty little Man's Steve Martin. Anyways, Smashing Pumpkins
22:55
Speaker 2: headlining Lalla Palooza, I think that there was some sort
22:58
Speaker 2: of shenanigans there with how they got to headline Lollapalooza.
23:02
Speaker 2: I think Nirvana had pulled out and then they went
23:05
Speaker 2: in the top slot. And looking back, it's you go,
23:09
Speaker 2: why why would Smashing Pumpkins be there? I agree with
23:12
Speaker 2: you over the BC Boys, just because the BC Boys
23:14
Speaker 2: seemed to have so much more lasting cultural resonance. But
23:19
Speaker 2: remember the time. This is ninety four, this is the
23:22
Speaker 2: year that Kurt Cobain died. Smashing Pumpkins were sort of
23:25
Speaker 2: like filling the void, the Nirvana void at the time,
23:29
Speaker 2: as like the biggest rock band on the planet. I mean,
23:31
Speaker 2: Siame's Dream and Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness were fucking
23:34
Speaker 2: huge records. We get into that in the episode that
23:37
Speaker 2: we have coming out on them. So anyways, there's a
23:40
Speaker 2: little behind the scenes there on Nasty little Man and
23:43
Speaker 2: the Pumpkins. Thanks for the message, Melissa six one seven
23:46
Speaker 2: nine oh six six six three eight. We've got a
23:51
Speaker 2: text here from the seven six three. Jake was talking
23:55
Speaker 2: about summer reading, watching, and listening recommendations last week, So
24:00
Speaker 2: the seven sixty three text in Good Evening Jake summer
24:03
Speaker 2: recommendations for books. I have joined the Dungeon Crawler Carl Bandwagon.
24:09
Speaker 2: Great read, really easy to get into, more so if
24:11
Speaker 2: you have ever played video games. For movies, I just
24:14
Speaker 2: rewatched be kind Rewind with Jack Black and Mustaf very funny,
24:18
Speaker 2: doesn't take itself too seriously. For music, I've been listening
24:21
Speaker 2: to a lot of live Bruce Springsteen. Just listened to
24:23
Speaker 2: his show from the Born to Run tour in New
24:26
Speaker 2: Jersey in nineteen eighty five. Great show, great music, especially
24:30
Speaker 2: for July fourth. Thanks for all you do well. Thank
24:34
Speaker 2: you very much seven six' three for the. RECOMMENDATIONS i
24:38
Speaker 2: remember liking be Kind rewind when that came. Out that's
24:42
Speaker 2: A Michelle gondry. FILM i think that's the one he
24:45
Speaker 2: made right After Eternal sunshine in The Spotless. Mind you
24:48
Speaker 2: know you can't go wroun With bruce circa nineteen eighty.
24:51
Speaker 2: Five the guy was just a. Machine even the clips
24:55
Speaker 2: now At bruce and The Eastreet band playing look. AMAZING
24:58
Speaker 2: i saw. Them the one TIME i was them was
25:00
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine WHEN i think THE i think everybody
25:05
Speaker 2: was back in the, fold like Little steven And clarence
25:08
Speaker 2: and like it was all the original members of THE
25:11
Speaker 2: Ea Street band were back together for the first time
25:13
Speaker 2: in a little. BIT i think was after Like bruce's
25:15
Speaker 2: couple of solo records he had done there or. Whatever
25:18
Speaker 2: AND i just remember it was at The garden In,
25:20
Speaker 2: boston AND i just remember the seating was completely surrounded the.
25:24
Speaker 2: Stage it filled up the entire, garden And, bruce like
25:27
Speaker 2: throughout the show would turn so that he would face
25:31
Speaker 2: all four sides of the of the, garden so that
25:35
Speaker 2: everybody so you, know you weren't looking At bruce's back
25:37
Speaker 2: the whole. Time it was a cool thing he. Was
25:39
Speaker 2: he was really giving, it giving it up for the fans.
25:42
Speaker 3: There it was.
25:42
Speaker 2: GREAT i got a text here from three oh four that,
25:47
Speaker 2: says were you guys talking About Edward Hopper's New york.
25:50
Speaker 2: Interior why, yes three or? Four that is the painting
25:53
Speaker 2: That jake AND i were talking about in one of
25:56
Speaker 2: the shows last, week And jake had a controversial take
25:59
Speaker 2: on the painting a little bit more later in this
26:01
Speaker 2: episode about. That, okay everybody else out, there be like
26:05
Speaker 2: your fellow discos here that we just heard, from and
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26:18
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26:28
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26:36
Speaker 2: Guys i'm gonna take another quick break, here but when
26:39
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26:41
Speaker 2: much more, so stay. Tuned all, Right, discos we are
26:57
Speaker 2: back in the after. Party Doctor lundy here holding it
27:00
Speaker 2: down today While Jake brennan is uh in parts, Unknown
27:05
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27:07
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27:11
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27:15
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27:18
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27:20
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27:34
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27:36
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27:41
Speaker 2: Love The Dolly parton episode was an amazing testament to your.
27:44
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27:49
Speaker 2: intro expressing what anyone growing up in the eighties or
27:51
Speaker 2: nineties thought Of dolly to the understanding we have, now
27:55
Speaker 2: the background record, scratches and the gradual guitar strumming as
27:58
Speaker 2: the story. Progresses just wanted to tell you that this
28:01
Speaker 2: new chapter Of disgraceland is something to. Experience thanks for
28:05
Speaker 2: all you do and the guys that double us do
28:07
Speaker 2: rock A. Rolla thanks so, Much. Delbert that means so
28:11
Speaker 2: much because as you alluded to. There you, know we're
28:15
Speaker 2: always evolving the way that we always, evolving always iterating
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Speaker 2: how we do what we, do the creative part of our,
28:22
Speaker 2: job the editorial part of our. Job and we've been
28:25
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28:32
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28:37
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28:39
Speaker 2: i'm glad you enjoyed this episode in. Particular not to
28:42
Speaker 2: toot my own horn or, anything BUT i wrote The
28:44
Speaker 2: Dolly parton episode AND i was really happy with, it
28:48
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28:51
Speaker 3: You.
28:52
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28:55
Speaker 2: Right got another email here From bill and the subject
28:59
Speaker 2: line is art Slash Edward hopper Slash covers and it,
29:03
Speaker 2: Reads Hey, Jake bill from the two one five. Here
29:06
Speaker 2: you guys were so all over the place on that
29:08
Speaker 2: last wrap, party and it was. Great i'm a working
29:11
Speaker 2: artist In. Philadelphia that's HOW i make my. LIVING i,
29:14
Speaker 2: know you know how hard that can be, sometimes AND
29:16
Speaker 2: i appreciate your grind as a musician and media. Person,
29:19
Speaker 2: anyway my ears perked up when you reference The hopper
29:21
Speaker 2: painting that featured on your screen at. Home AM i
29:25
Speaker 2: right that it's Called New York? Interior hopper was such
29:28
Speaker 2: a voyeur in his, painting AND i think you're on
29:30
Speaker 2: the right track and your assessment of what's. Happening there
29:33
Speaker 2: seems to be a man's hat behind, her giving us
29:36
Speaker 2: a clue that she has. Company the front of her
29:38
Speaker 2: dress is hyped, up but no other evidence of a
29:41
Speaker 2: second party other than the things around. Her i'm attaching
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Speaker 2: a pick of the. Painting if it's not the, one even,
29:46
Speaker 2: better let's see that, music, movies, stories and art are
29:49
Speaker 2: basically my whole. Life so thanks to you and the
29:50
Speaker 2: good doctor for helping me to scratch those. Itches rock
29:54
Speaker 2: A rolla and Then bill followed up with we apparently
29:57
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30:00
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30:03
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30:09
Speaker 2: you for your investigation into. This, guys if you missed
30:11
Speaker 2: this last, Week jake was talking about he's got this
30:15
Speaker 2: thing on HIS tv where it when he's not WATCHING.
30:17
Speaker 2: Tv it displays a piece of art and he has
30:21
Speaker 2: This Edward hopper painting up that we've discovered is Called
30:23
Speaker 2: New York interior of a woman and we're looking at
30:28
Speaker 2: her from behind And jake thinks that she's getting it
30:31
Speaker 2: on in this, painting that there's some mystery man beneath her.
30:34
Speaker 2: There it was very controversial. Take it was a take
30:37
Speaker 2: THAT i did not, believe ALTHOUGH i did not believe,
30:40
Speaker 2: it and then he sent me a text of the
30:42
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30:46
Speaker 2: i can't unsee, it and probably just because our minds
30:49
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30:52
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30:58
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31:13
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31:17
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31:41
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31:43
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31:46
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31:49
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33:28
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