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- 0:00Jen Iverson: Sometimes different people came and went in the band, but there was a core group of them.
- 0:04Jen Iverson: They were called the Twilighters.
- 0:06Jen Iverson: They actually played every Monday night for years I know at least 15 years, because in 1979 the state of Idaho gave them an award for Volunteer of the Year for playing you know, like 15 years in the Senior Citizen Center.
- 0:23Jen Iverson: So they were together a long time.
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- 1:13Crista Cowan: My paternal grandmother was born in a little town called Twin Falls, idaho.
- 1:14Crista Cowan: Now.
- 1:14Crista Cowan: She wasn't very old when her family picked up and moved to Los Angeles, which is where she was raised and she raised my dad, but so interesting to me that, as we get to talk about Idaho today, I have that connection to that state.
- 1:27Crista Cowan: That's not the only connection I have to our story today, though.
- 1:31Crista Cowan: My grandmother, after my grandfather passed, started to develop dementia, and so I would make a concerted effort, about every other month or so, to drive the 10 hours from Utah down to Los Angeles to visit her so that I could spend as much time with her as possible before the dementia took her from us.
- 1:54Crista Cowan: There were times when I would be with her.
- 1:57Crista Cowan: When she would be tired, her memory would fail, she would kind of start to fade out, and on one of those visits I pulled out my phone and pulled up a music app and decided to play some Glenn Miller big band music for her.
- 2:12Crista Cowan: I knew that she and my grandfather loved to go dancing.
- 2:15Crista Cowan: What I didn't expect was how her face would immediately brighten and how it was almost like her memory returned.
- 2:25Crista Cowan: But her memory was from that time in her life and she would start to share stories again and I had found a trigger or a window into her memory that I used for the next decade.
- 2:38Crista Cowan: As her memory continued to fail, I would sing songs to her, I would play music for her, and it just sometimes brought a peace to her that I really appreciated.
- 2:51Crista Cowan: As a matter of fact, one of my last memories with my grandmother was I was down in LA on business, brought some friends with me to see her in her nursing home and we sang to her and it was just the most beautiful, peaceful moment to be able to spend that with her.
- 3:09Crista Cowan: As I think about the effect of music on my grandmother, music is kind of like a time machine.
- 3:16Crista Cowan: It can take any of us, whether we have dementia or not, back to a place and a time in our lives.
- 3:23Crista Cowan: You hear a song, you connect it with a memory, sometimes you can feel the emotions and smell the smells and certainly it connects you with the people.
- 3:33Crista Cowan: That is what our guest today has in common with my story of my grandmother, of my grandmother.
- 3:49Crista Cowan: Jen Iverson is a Gen X mom of young adults and teenagers who loves family history and she has such a passion for making sure that stories get passed on that photos tell those stories, that she engages with the people in her life, the young adults and the kids, to be able to pass those stories on.
- 4:04Crista Cowan: But how those stories have come to her is a story that she is going to share with us and the connection to music and the connection to her family.
- 4:16Crista Cowan: You'll see it's a little bit of a time machine.
- 4:19Crista Cowan: Enjoy my conversation with Jen Iverson.
- 4:22Crista Cowan: So I'm so excited not only to have this conversation with you but to get to know you a little bit better.
- 4:26Crista Cowan: Did you always have an interest in family history, or is this a new passion?
- 4:31Jen Iverson: I think I always have.
- 4:32Jen Iverson: I remember being a young girl, like 10, 11 years old, and I was the one keeping a journal and keeping every little piece of anything and gluing it into a book.
- 4:44Jen Iverson: So I really always have.
- 4:45Jen Iverson: But it wasn't until, like some experiences later in life, that really solidified my love for family history.
- 4:52Crista Cowan: So you were one of those scrapbooker moms.
- 4:55Jen Iverson: Well, yes.
- 4:57Crista Cowan: I went through the scrapbooking craze as well.
- 5:00Crista Cowan: It was a lot.
- 5:02Jen Iverson: Although I never was like one of the moms.
- 5:05Jen Iverson: I'm not crafty at all.
- 5:06Jen Iverson: So I love to tell stories and write stories and I love photography, but craftiness is just not my thing.
- 5:14Crista Cowan: Okay, so you live here in Utah now.
- 5:17Crista Cowan: Did you raise your family here?
- 5:18Jen Iverson: Yes, I moved to Layton when I was 17.
- 5:22Crista Cowan: Okay, and so where did you grow?
- 5:24Jen Iverson: up.
- 5:24Jen Iverson: I kind of grew up all over.
- 5:26Jen Iverson: My dad's family, my mom's family, are both from Pocatello, idaho, okay, but I was born in South Dakota.
- 5:31Jen Iverson: As a child, I lived my summers in South Dakota and my winters in South Texas because my family owned a migratory beekeeping business.
- 5:41Jen Iverson: What?
- 5:44Crista Cowan: I need to know all the things.
- 5:45Jen Iverson: Right, it just was something that happened.
- 5:48Jen Iverson: My grandpa was in an accident and in the seventies he was ran over by a train, and so he ended up buying a beekeeping business in South Dakota and my mom and dad got married and then went out to help him and so, yeah, we lived there and did that life until I was like middle elementary school years.
- 6:10Crista Cowan: And they had to move the bees.
- 6:11Crista Cowan: Yes, because of the weather.
- 6:13Jen Iverson: Yes, so they would produce all year long.
- 6:15Crista Cowan: That's amazing.
- 6:16Crista Cowan: I literally have never heard of that.
- 6:17Crista Cowan: I went.
- 6:18Crista Cowan: Something new every day.
- 6:19Jen Iverson: My dad still has bees.
- 6:20Jen Iverson: We have all kinds of honey.
- 6:22Crista Cowan: That's so fun.
- 6:23Crista Cowan: Yeah, so did your grandfather stay in Idaho.
- 6:27Jen Iverson: No, he actually in the 70s.
- 6:29Jen Iverson: After he got ran over and healed, then he bought that business and moved to South Dakota.
- 6:34Jen Iverson: Yeah, and he stayed in South Dakota until he died in 2023.
- 6:38Crista Cowan: Okay.
- 6:39Crista Cowan: So did you have any connection to Idaho other than through family history, like, did you visit there as a kid?
- 6:45Jen Iverson: Did you have yeah, so after we left South Dakota we lived in Idaho, kind of my middle growing up years.
- 6:52Jen Iverson: My mom and dad were both born and raised there, kind of generational.
- 6:57Jen Iverson: A few generations have lived there, okay so.
- 7:01Crista Cowan: Let's see if I can remember this.
- 7:02Crista Cowan: My great grandparents Nope, great great grandparents died in Pocatello.
- 7:08Crista Cowan: Oh, really yeah.
- 7:09Crista Cowan: My great great grandfather was the superintendent of janitorial services for the university, really yeah.
- 7:17Crista Cowan: So they moved there when my grandmother was probably a teenager.
- 7:22Crista Cowan: So she talks about visiting her grandparents in Pocatello, and so I've always had fond memories.
- 7:28Crista Cowan: And then I went to school in Rexburg and so driving, you know, back and forth through Pocatello all the time.
- 7:34Crista Cowan: That's a great area, it is a darling little community but it's obviously grown a ton.
- 7:39Crista Cowan: But super sweet community and so you had this connection to this place that your parents were raised.
- 7:52Jen Iverson: And were you raised with family stories?
- 7:53Jen Iverson: Absolutely yeah.
- 7:53Jen Iverson: I think I just was raised with a real sense of family.
- 7:55Jen Iverson: My dad's family especially is very close.
- 7:56Jen Iverson: My mom's family is close, maybe not so much.
- 7:58Jen Iverson: Her mom died when she was 18.
- 8:00Jen Iverson: So you know they had some hard years where my grandma had breast cancer and so it was hard for him, so maybe not quite as close but her great grandparents stepped in and really really helped him and helped raise those kids oh, that's lovely.
- 8:15Crista Cowan: And then, how big is your dad's family?
- 8:17Crista Cowan: Large?
- 8:19Jen Iverson: My dad is the oldest of five and most he still has three siblings that live in Pocatello, and my great-grandparents moved there in I can't remember off the top of my head what year, but they bought a hotel out in Arco and ended up in Pocatello, and so, yeah, it was just.
- 8:37Crista Cowan: Out in Arco.
- 8:38Crista Cowan: I know where Arco is.
- 8:41Jen Iverson: Yeah, my grandpa, my dad's dad, lived in Blackfoot, went to high school there and so, so crazy.
- 8:47Crista Cowan: All these little towns in Idaho are so fun and they all have kind of their own little personality, which I love.
- 8:53Crista Cowan: I dated a guy from Blackfoot once and so I've spent a little time there.
- 8:58Crista Cowan: Like I mentioned, I went to school in Rexburg, Like yeah, like that whole little corridor of that part of Idaho it's beautiful and I just love the little communities so much.
- 9:07Crista Cowan: Tell us about your great-grandparents.
- 9:11Jen Iverson: My great-grandparents were Arnold and Fern Steed.
- 9:13Jen Iverson: They lived in Pocatello, on the corner of Poplar and Jefferson.
- 9:17Jen Iverson: They lived there for a good long time over 50 years and they were just wonderful people.
- 9:23Crista Cowan: Did you know them?
- 9:24Jen Iverson: I did.
- 9:25Jen Iverson: Okay, yeah, I did.
- 9:26Jen Iverson: My grandma didn't.
- 9:27Jen Iverson: My great grandma didn't die until 1999.
- 9:31Jen Iverson: Oh wow.
- 9:31Jen Iverson: So I was pregnant with my first child when she died.
- 9:33Jen Iverson: Yeah, she died in July and I had my child in August, so, but he died in 1985.
- 9:40Jen Iverson: So I was eight when he died.
- 9:43Jen Iverson: So I don't have a ton of memories of him, but I do have memories of him playing with his band and neighbors gathering to listen to him, and just good memories.
- 9:55Crista Cowan: So I love that not many people I mean a lot of people don't know all four grandparents, much less to have known and had a relationship with great-grandparents.
- 10:03Crista Cowan: That's really special.
- 10:05Jen Iverson: It is really special, and I was fortunate enough to have three great-grandmothers alive for all of my growing years.
- 10:14Crista Cowan: So is this particular couple on your dad's side or your mom's side?
- 10:17Crista Cowan: My mom's, okay, it's my mom's grandparents.
- 10:20Crista Cowan: And they're the ones who kind of stepped in and helped when her mom died.
- 10:23Jen Iverson: Yeah, they are wonderful people.
- 10:25Jen Iverson: I love that.
- 10:25Jen Iverson: How many children did they have?
- 10:27Jen Iverson: They had three, my grandma.
- 10:34Jen Iverson: They just weren't able to have a lot of children, and she had one a few years after they got married, in the 30s, and then another one in the 40s and another one in the 50s oh my goodness.
- 10:40Jen Iverson: So my mom has an uncle that's just barely older than her.
- 10:45Crista Cowan: That's amazing.
- 10:45Crista Cowan: I mean I can't imagine having children in three decades.
- 10:48Crista Cowan: But well done her.
- 10:50Jen Iverson: I can't imagine.
- 10:51Jen Iverson: Either.
- 10:52Crista Cowan: You'd think you were just about done.
- 10:53Crista Cowan: You know, like your kid's going to be a teenager soon and then you have another baby.
- 10:56Crista Cowan: Yep, that's a lot.
- 10:57Crista Cowan: Yeah, it would be a lot, wow.
- 11:00Crista Cowan: So what, like, as you think about time you spent with your great-grandmother, in particular because you knew her the longest did she share stories, was there, or was it just more of a like you know, living in the moment kind of a relationship?
- 11:16Jen Iverson: spend quite a bit of time with her and even with my grandpa when I was little.
- 11:23Jen Iverson: So I think you know I just have good memories.
- 11:27Jen Iverson: She always had a record player not a record player, a cassette player in her kitchen and even long after my grandpa had passed she would put those tapes in and listen to his tapes.
- 11:40Jen Iverson: I'm sure it brought her a lot of comfort.
- 11:41Jen Iverson: So that music is is very familiar to me and she was just a good woman, very hardworking, very thrifty.
- 11:49Jen Iverson: I mean every piece of tinfoil she was saving, every soaps she would, you know, mash them all together when they would get small.
- 11:58Jen Iverson: You could tell she grew up during the Great Depression and she had some hard things in her life.
- 12:03Crista Cowan: Yeah, that frugality not only very much children of the Great Depression but also just that part of Idaho too right Like that's my great.
- 12:11Crista Cowan: my grandmother was born in Twin Falls and like she was the same way, like she used to take saran wrap and rinse it off and put it on the cabinet, the front of the cabinet, to dry, like little things.
- 12:25Crista Cowan: Like you, you're like there's more saran wrap, but she just was going to use everything up and I always was, um, kind of flabbergasted by that as a child, but as an adult I can kind of appreciate it you can.
- 12:38Jen Iverson: She was thrifty, yeah that's crazy.
- 12:41Crista Cowan: So talk to me about your great-grandfather's music.
- 12:44Crista Cowan: You knew he grew up or he played in a band, but was he always musical his whole life?
- 12:50Crista Cowan: Did he play more instruments than just one?
- 12:53Jen Iverson: So I remember him playing the drums and singing.
- 12:57Jen Iverson: He has this really rich voice that is just very unique and just kind of booming.
- 13:04Jen Iverson: So when you hear it you're like, oh, I know whose voice that is.
- 13:07Jen Iverson: But he played the drums.
- 13:10Jen Iverson: I swear I remember him playing the accordion.
- 13:12Jen Iverson: My mom says, yeah, I think he did, but not in the band.
- 13:22Jen Iverson: But I remember him gathering.
- 13:23Jen Iverson: He always had his drums set up in his garage.
- 13:24Jen Iverson: They had a detached garage.
- 13:25Jen Iverson: His drums were always set up in there, set up in his garage.
- 13:27Jen Iverson: They had a detached garage.
- 13:28Jen Iverson: His drums were always set up in there and they had this overhang on their outside of their garage.
- 13:31Jen Iverson: And I remember summer nights you know him and his friends gathering to play and neighbors would come and listen.
- 13:36Jen Iverson: So I remember little glimpses of hearing him play and they would play in local malls and senior citizen centers.
- 13:45Jen Iverson: They just went all over.
- 13:46Crista Cowan: And did he do that as a career when he was younger, or that was just his passion?
- 13:51Jen Iverson: He actually he kind of hopped jobs.
- 13:54Jen Iverson: He worked for the Union Pacific Railroad, some he did woodworking.
- 13:58Jen Iverson: He and my grandmother owned a little cafe in town for about 15 years and then he and my grandfather owned a dry cleaning store in the 70s.
- 14:07Crista Cowan: So music was just his passion.
- 14:08Crista Cowan: Yeah, he loved it.
- 14:09Crista Cowan: I love that so much.
- 14:11Crista Cowan: That's so fun.
- 14:12Crista Cowan: This band of his.
- 14:13Crista Cowan: Did they have a name?
- 14:15Crista Cowan: Did they play together all the time?
- 14:18Crista Cowan: Was it different?
- 14:19Crista Cowan: People in and out?
- 14:19Jen Iverson: of the band.
- 14:20Jen Iverson: It sounds like sometimes different people came and went in the band, but there was a core group of them.
- 14:26Jen Iverson: They were called the Twilighters.
- 14:27Jen Iverson: They actually played every Monday night for years I know at least 15 years because in 1979, the state of Idaho gave them an award for volunteer of the year for playing you know like 15 years in the Senior Citizen Center.
- 14:44Jen Iverson: So they were together a long time.
- 14:46Jen Iverson: A lot of community events they did.
- 14:49Jen Iverson: And was it their own music or were they playing covers.
- 14:52Crista Cowan: They were playing covers.
- 14:53Crista Cowan: Okay, your grandfather never got into writing music.
- 14:57Jen Iverson: No, but I know of that would be really fun, but lots of catchy old songs that they were playing.
- 15:04Jen Iverson: From like the 20s and 30s or all eras, kind of all eras, right in there.
- 15:10Crista Cowan: I bet that was such a trait for the people in those living facilities too, right, I know when my grandmother was getting older she lived to be 96 and she had dementia pretty badly the last few years, but she kind of started declining into it later in her 80s and whenever I would put on big band music she would just perk right up and then her memories would start to flow Like she never was really in the present, but her memories from the past because of that music.
- 15:39Crista Cowan: It was such a beautiful thing to watch that happen.
- 15:43Crista Cowan: It was almost like, you know, there had been scales on her eyes and they just the music just caused them to fall away.
- 15:49Crista Cowan: So music has such power and I love that he had the opportunity to volunteer that way and that he chose to serve that way.
- 15:57Crista Cowan: That's a lovely thing, right?
- 15:59Jen Iverson: It's a really great thing, and you're right, music does hold power.
- 16:02Jen Iverson: It just builds emotion, and we still, you know, years later we can hear a song or something, and we're right back to that moment when it happened.
- 16:11Crista Cowan: Yeah, so last November you were at your uncle's and there was some things that happened.
- 16:16Crista Cowan: Why don't you tell us?
- 16:17Jen Iverson: about that.
- 16:17Jen Iverson: So I have an uncle who lives in a skilled nursing facility and every year my mom and I we kind of and my little brother will go in clean out his room, good, and decorate it all up for Christmas.
- 16:29Jen Iverson: And he had this trunk that was under his desk that he could not reach he's in a wheelchair and so we pulled it out and sitting on top is this brown case of cassette tapes and we opened it up and I didn't really believe.
- 16:46Jen Iverson: I wanted to believe so badly that it really was what was written on the tapes.
- 16:51Jen Iverson: And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, those are.
- 16:53Jen Iverson: Those are Grandpa Arnold's music.
- 16:56Jen Iverson: And I just couldn't believe that we'd actually found recordings because not even two days before I had spoken the words, what I wouldn't give to hear grandpa's music again and then to two days later find this just treasure of his music.
- 17:14Jen Iverson: Do you want to see it?
- 17:15Jen Iverson: I love that you brought all this stuff.
- 17:18Jen Iverson: I brought it.
- 17:19Jen Iverson: I had to bring it.
- 17:20Jen Iverson: All you know what it tells a story too.
- 17:22Jen Iverson: I mean, look at my great grandmother's tidy handwriting on here Right, all of them.
- 17:27Crista Cowan: Cassette tapes, and these were made in the 70s.
- 17:30Jen Iverson: Yeah, 70s and early 80s, Like one says 1980, but I've labeled them.
- 17:37Crista Cowan: You've labeled them, but she also wrote on them.
- 17:40Jen Iverson: Yes.
- 17:41Crista Cowan: And, like, before you had a chance to listen to these, did you trust that's what was actually on here?
- 17:47Crista Cowan: My parents record stuff all the time and I never trust.
- 17:51Jen Iverson: Right, that was my hardest thing.
- 17:52Jen Iverson: My uncle swore that these really were recordings of grandpa and I just kept thinking there is no way, and so I hesitantly trusted and wanted so badly for them to be what they are.
- 18:09Crista Cowan: That's their address.
- 18:10Crista Cowan: Oh no, that's where it was.
- 18:11Jen Iverson: That's oh yeah, so this says the Pocatello Mall.
- 18:14Jen Iverson: So this she even made notes of where they were recorded.
- 18:17Jen Iverson: That's amazing.
- 18:19Jen Iverson: Yeah, so so great.
- 18:20Crista Cowan: What a treasure.
- 18:22Jen Iverson: Yes, absolutely so.
- 18:23Jen Iverson: My uncle gave me the tapes.
- 18:25Jen Iverson: He just said take them, do whatever with them.
- 18:27Jen Iverson: Absolutely so.
- 18:28Jen Iverson: My uncle gave me the tapes.
- 18:28Jen Iverson: He just said take them, do whatever with them.
- 18:31Jen Iverson: So I took them and, yeah, it kind of came home.
- 18:33Jen Iverson: I couldn't find a cassette player.
- 18:34Jen Iverson: In all of the neighborhood I'm texting friends, texting neighbors Do you have a cassette player?
- 18:40Jen Iverson: Nobody had one.
- 18:41Jen Iverson: It was Monday evening evening.
- 18:43Jen Iverson: So the next morning, that next Tuesday morning, bright and early, I showed up, you know, box in hand, at the family search center in Layton and and they had a cassette player.
- 18:54Crista Cowan: They had a cassette.
- 18:54Crista Cowan: Did you know they had?
- 18:55Jen Iverson: one?
- 18:56Jen Iverson: Yes, I did know.
- 18:57Jen Iverson: I've spent some time there working on various projects and I did know they had a cassette player.
- 19:02Jen Iverson: So, yeah, I plugged it in, put the headphones on and what was that moment?
- 19:09Jen Iverson: Amazing, like I just cried, in all honesty.
- 19:13Jen Iverson: I put the headphones on and, it's funny, I don't even know how I picked that tape out of there, but the first tape I put in was a duet of my great grandparents singing, like just right out of the gates.
- 19:26Jen Iverson: It was that duet of them singing and I just cried.
- 19:30Jen Iverson: I stood there crying and I stood there crying and listening for two hours and the cute missionary kept coming up to me and patting me on the shoulder and bringing me chocolate and I was like they're happy tears.
- 19:41Jen Iverson: It was just so special and so wonderful to hear their voices again.
- 19:46Jen Iverson: Wow, that was great.
- 19:51Jen Iverson: Had she always sung with him or was that kind of a trait?
- 19:52Jen Iverson: She would sing along in her house and here and there when they would perform she would sing along.
- 19:58Jen Iverson: But like she has a fun voice not definitely not like an amazing voice that you would typically hear singing with a band, right, but just fun to hear her sing.
- 20:11Jen Iverson: I love that.
- 20:12Crista Cowan: And what was the like?
- 20:13Crista Cowan: I mean, did they record that intentionally to preserve it, or was?
- 20:18Crista Cowan: Did somebody just record one of their performances?
- 20:22Jen Iverson: They recorded a lot of their performances.
- 20:23Jen Iverson: So I actually have 14 tapes, two sides.
- 20:26Jen Iverson: I've digitized them all, but a couple of them were corrupted and they just were old.
- 20:33Jen Iverson: But yeah, the background noise isn't great because you know it was the 70s and recording devices aren't what they are today, but still they recorded a lot and so now I have just a wonderful gift in their music.
- 20:48Crista Cowan: Yeah oh, my goodness, I know I love the story, but I also I'm just super curious about how you went about digitizing those tapes, because I think that's like we have all these treasures, photos and slides and old eight millimeter movies, and like there's so many different mediums of stuff and our generation is now starting to inherit those things from grandparents and parents who are, you know, getting older and passing and downsizing, and so, like you know, how did you go about doing that?
- 21:17Jen Iverson: So it's actually a really easy process.
- 21:19Jen Iverson: If anyone has a family search center close to them, they have all kinds of things available to you for free.
- 21:25Jen Iverson: All I did was I went online, made a reservation and then I showed up tapes in hand the sister missionaries or any of the missionaries there can tell you really how to use anything in the center and I just plugged it in.
- 21:39Jen Iverson: And the hard thing and the good thing about digitizing a tape is that you can't fast forward.
- 21:47Jen Iverson: About digitizing a tape is that you can't fast forward, so you just have to listen.
- 21:52Jen Iverson: Basically, I had to listen to it because, um, sometimes though you know you're probably familiar with cassette tapes those little, all that film kind of gets turned and, yeah, as they age, you have to be really careful with them.
- 22:03Jen Iverson: So I ended up listening to all the hours of the tape, which was fun, it was a treasure and I really love that time.
- 22:10Jen Iverson: But yeah, they just have these tape recorders.
- 22:14Jen Iverson: You plug a thumb drive into them and it automatically, when you record, goes right onto that thumb drive and then you're able to put it into your computer.
- 22:21Jen Iverson: You can burn it on a CD from there, however you want to have it preserved.
- 22:25Crista Cowan: Okay, wow, I had no idea they had cassette recording equipment.
- 22:30Crista Cowan: I'll have to go check out our local family search center.
- 22:32Crista Cowan: You mentioned hearing that first moment, hearing them sing that song.
- 22:37Crista Cowan: What was the song?
- 22:39Jen Iverson: Ma, he's Making Eyes at Me, stop.
- 22:42Crista Cowan: I know right, Is that a song that you were familiar with already?
- 22:46Jen Iverson: I remember my grandma singing it along to his music, so I had heard it, but I hadn't heard it in years.
- 22:56Crista Cowan: I think I know the song.
- 22:57Crista Cowan: Do you have it?
- 22:59Jen Iverson: I have it.
- 22:59Jen Iverson: Do you want to hear it?
- 23:00Jen Iverson: Yes, okay, okay.
- 23:04Crista Cowan: So you took the digital recording and what?
- 23:03Jen Iverson: did you do with it?
- 23:04Crista Cowan: Okay, so you took the digital recording and what did you do with it?
- 23:07Jen Iverson: So I was able to upload one of them onto FamilySearch.
- 23:13Jen Iverson: I can put more on there, but as a memory on there, yeah, so that whoever could have access to it.
- 23:19Jen Iverson: And then I for Christmas presents because it was Christmas time, I actually made all of my siblings and, like my great uncle and some other people, I gave them thumb drives and, fun enough, there was a whole entire Christmas performance on there.
- 23:36Jen Iverson: So, yeah, so here we go, monty made a wise of me.
- 23:38Jen Iverson: Monty told my story.
- 23:39Speaker 3: Monty's, all the more.
- 23:49Speaker 3: That made my heart.
- 24:07Speaker 3: I'll let you talk to God.
- 24:07Speaker 3: You know he wants to love me, me Be my holy reaper and the man that he is calling out to me when all my children cry.
- 24:19Speaker 3: Lord, keep your sleep.
- 24:25Crista Cowan: He has a very distinct voice.
- 24:27Crista Cowan: You're right.
- 24:28Crista Cowan: Yeah, like boomy, yeah, and she just sounds like she's having a ball.
- 24:33Crista Cowan: Right, that's so fun and that like how many instruments are going there?
- 24:38Jen Iverson: You know what I don't know in this one how many are going, but all sorts of fun band.
- 24:43Crista Cowan: It sounds like there's a lot of people there.
- 24:45Crista Cowan: Was it one of the senior?
- 24:46Jen Iverson: centers.
- 24:47Jen Iverson: Yes, that recording is at a senior citizen center in Pocatello, Idaho.
- 24:51Jen Iverson: I believe it was called Hillcrest Haven was the name of it.
- 24:56Crista Cowan: Random that you know that.
- 24:57Jen Iverson: I know I just remember that he walked around singing just randomly all of the time and so I was looking up on those tapes is just some incidental recordings of them playing games, and so it just gave me a little tidbit, a little view into what their life was like at that moment in time.
- 25:21Jen Iverson: They loved card games.
- 25:22Jen Iverson: And then also there is some like practice sessions on there of just him acapella singing, which I loved, because then it was just his voice alone which was really special are you lonesome tonight?
- 25:41Speaker 4: do you miss me tonight?
- 25:45Speaker 4: Sorry, we drifted apart.
- 25:49Speaker 4: Does your memo restrain To a bright summer day when I kiss you, call you sweetheart.
- 26:01Speaker 4: Do your chairs in your parlor Seem empty and bare?
- 26:08Speaker 4: Do you gaze at your doorstep and picture me?
- 26:14Speaker 4: There Is your heart filled with pain?
- 26:18Speaker 4: Shall I come back again.
- 26:22Speaker 4: Tell me, dear, are you lonesome tonight?
- 26:32Crista Cowan: Oh, what a treasure to be able to have that, and so, as you gave that to your family, what was their reaction?
- 26:38Jen Iverson: Well, I didn't wait until Christmas to give it to my mom.
- 26:42Jen Iverson: That first day, after I came home from the library, I kind of messed with it a little bit, put it on the computer and then I couldn't wait any longer.
- 26:53Jen Iverson: I just FaceTimed her.
- 26:53Jen Iverson: She's literally five minutes away.
- 26:54Jen Iverson: I was like you have to hear this.
- 26:55Jen Iverson: Just tears, tears.
- 26:57Jen Iverson: You know, to hear the voices of people she loves so much, who made such a difference in her life, it was just great.
- 27:04Jen Iverson: But I didn't play them.
- 27:06Jen Iverson: I didn't play any of the music or say anything really to my uncle, whose whose tapes they originally were, until we had his little Christmas party and then I just played.
- 27:17Jen Iverson: You know, I had that grandpa's Christmas music playing as he came in and again, just tears.
- 27:23Jen Iverson: Just those connections are so special.
- 27:25Jen Iverson: They were his grandparents but they had helped raise him after my grandma died and so it was just so fun to see his reaction of hearing those voices.
- 27:36Jen Iverson: That meant so much to him.
- 27:37Jen Iverson: So it was great.
- 27:39Crista Cowan: Oh, and then your siblings like did they get it?
- 27:42Jen Iverson: You know, my little brother who's 18 months younger than me I think he got it but my younger siblings, of course they were so excited to have him and to hear him, but they were young.
- 27:54Jen Iverson: I have a sister who's 10 years younger than I am a brother who's 13.
- 27:59Jen Iverson: So they didn't know them as well as I knew them, and my family wasn't living there when they were young.
- 28:04Jen Iverson: So I think it probably meant the most to those of us who really had great relationships with them, but it still was precious to the ones who didn't know them as well.
- 28:16Crista Cowan: Yeah, that's always so interesting to me when you have a family that has just entirely different relationships with relatives.
- 28:22Crista Cowan: Like I'm an oldest grandchild and I spend a ton of time with my grandparents.
- 28:27Crista Cowan: I went and lived near one of my grandmothers after college.
- 28:28Crista Cowan: I mean, just I went and lived with, you know, one of you know, near one of my grandmothers when I after college, and I mean just like I had these relationships with them.
- 28:35Crista Cowan: My youngest cousin is.
- 28:37Crista Cowan: She was born when I was 18.
- 28:38Crista Cowan: And so I'm the oldest, she's the youngest.
- 28:40Crista Cowan: There's seven, nine of us.
- 28:42Crista Cowan: I don't even know how many of us there are there's.
- 28:44Crista Cowan: There's a lot of us and, and she calls them something different.
- 28:49Crista Cowan: Her memories of them are different, her experience with them.
- 28:52Crista Cowan: Like when I knew my grandfather and grandmother, they were still young and working and and you know, they were only 50.
- 28:59Crista Cowan: They were younger than I am now when I was born, right Like, and and yet she only knew them old, yes, and so again, like it's just such a different experience and yet we want so much to be the bridge, like we love these people.
- 29:12Crista Cowan: How do we bridge that?
- 29:14Crista Cowan: How do we share those stories?
- 29:15Crista Cowan: So, other than just sharing the music, like what does that storytelling look like in your?
- 29:20Jen Iverson: family.
- 29:23Jen Iverson: Now their interest in knowing the stories and knowing their great-grandparents has definitely increased.
- 29:31Jen Iverson: So, you know, we have conversations all the time because you're right that, as an, I'm also an oldest child, an oldest grandchild, an oldest great-grandchild, so we absolutely have different views and different relationships with our parents.
- 29:44Jen Iverson: Even our parents, our parents are great-grandparents and our grandparents, and so it's been fun to share those things because we do remember them young and active, and I remember, you know, gardening with my grandma or my grandpa from the other side, like I lived close to him when a lot of my other cousins didn't have that opportunity.
- 30:04Jen Iverson: So it's fun to share those little bits of information of a younger version of those grandparents where people in our lives and so things like music and photos can help with that.
- 30:17Crista Cowan: Do you have family photos as well?
- 30:18Jen Iverson: I do have family photos.
- 30:20Jen Iverson: When my grandpa passed away in 2012, I became the keeper of my great-great-grandparents photo album, and so I have a bunch of photos.
- 30:30Jen Iverson: Do you want to see my great Of course I do.
- 30:33Jen Iverson: So this is Carrie and Abe Felix and Carrie Barnhart.
- 30:39Jen Iverson: Okay, look at that.
- 30:40Jen Iverson: Our maiden name is Carlisle.
- 30:42Jen Iverson: I know right, this picture was taken in 1903.
- 30:46Jen Iverson: And it was.
- 30:48Jen Iverson: My mom thinks this is their house in Blackfoot, idaho, but where it was taken in 1903, I don't believe so.
- 30:54Jen Iverson: They lived in Louisiana, okay, and so they were married in Louisiana and then they had two children there, but my great grandmother was born in Driggs, idaho.
- 31:04Jen Iverson: So sometime between the birth of their second child and the birth of their third child, so sometime between the birth of their second child and the birth of their third child, they left Louisiana and they went to Driggs, idaho.
- 31:15Jen Iverson: Okay, why Driggs?
- 31:16Jen Iverson: I have no idea.
- 31:16Crista Cowan: I mean, it's beautiful.
- 31:18Jen Iverson: It is beautiful and I cannot figure it out.
- 31:19Jen Iverson: I don't know what brought them there, whether it was work or I would love to know, but I have no way to find out, and then they end up down in Blackfoot.
- 31:28Jen Iverson: Yeah.
- 31:38Crista Cowan: They end up down in Blackfoot.
- 31:38Crista Cowan: Yeah, they end up in area.
- 31:39Crista Cowan: Yeah, okay.
- 31:39Crista Cowan: Well, that's so great that house is.
- 31:40Crista Cowan: I'm, isn't that fun?
- 31:40Crista Cowan: Yeah, it's just so neat, right?
- 31:41Crista Cowan: I'm always fascinated by properties and like to see does the house still stand?
- 31:43Crista Cowan: Does it still look the same?
- 31:44Crista Cowan: Yeah, that's um, my grandparents house.
- 31:47Crista Cowan: The people who bought it demolished it and rebuilt, and so the last time I was in LA, I was just like I can't even, I don't even want to go drive through the neighborhood anymore, because it's not their house anymore.
- 31:58Crista Cowan: It's not the same.
- 31:59Crista Cowan: Do you get up to Idaho?
- 32:01Crista Cowan: Have you ever done like a little family history tour?
- 32:04Jen Iverson: I haven't done a family history tour per se, but we definitely get up there.
- 32:08Jen Iverson: So my great-grandmother and grandfather, whose music we listen to, they're buried in Income.
- 32:13Jen Iverson: My grandparents are buried in Income.
- 32:15Jen Iverson: My grandmother on my dad's side, my great-grandparents on that side are all buried up in Shelley.
- 32:21Jen Iverson: They were from the Shelley area, so definitely have people all over and I still have uncles and aunts and cousins that live up there, so we get up there quite often.
- 32:31Crista Cowan: I love that.
- 32:32Crista Cowan: What does it mean to you to be connected to Idaho that way?
- 32:37Jen Iverson: It's just my roots.
- 32:38Jen Iverson: You know I love the people who are there so much.
- 32:43Jen Iverson: I love that state I have such fond memories of, you know, years spent vacationing up there with my family and my extended family and my grandpa, his family, vacationed to Island Park and up over in another area.
- 32:59Jen Iverson: For years they vacationed there and we still go up there most every year to Island Park, to Buffalo Campground and fish the river and float the river and it's just really special to me to have those roots there.
- 33:15Jen Iverson: Just a place that we've been going for years, for generations of my family, gets to visit there.
- 33:21Crista Cowan: Do you think that will carry on into the next generation?
- 33:23Jen Iverson: I absolutely do.
- 33:24Jen Iverson: My children love to go up there.
- 33:26Jen Iverson: They all make every effort they can to get up there with us when we go to go up there.
- 33:30Jen Iverson: They all make every effort they can to get up there with us when we go.
- 33:31Jen Iverson: And we still vacation with my uncles and aunts and whoever's available.
- 33:34Jen Iverson: You know we still go up there.
- 33:41Crista Cowan: It's like a little mini family reunion.
- 33:42Crista Cowan: It is Absolutely.
- 33:43Crista Cowan: I love that.
- 33:46Crista Cowan: Well, thank you for sharing your family with us and sharing your love of Idaho with us.
- 33:49Crista Cowan: Idaho also has a fond place in my heart, and so I always love talking to people about places that I'm familiar with, but I can tell how much they all mean to you as well.
- 33:57Jen Iverson: They do.
- 33:57Jen Iverson: I love them dearly, so thank you.
- 33:59Jen Iverson: Studio sponsored by Ancestry.