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101: Graboids and Orange Goo · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 2: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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  Speaker 3: Kilowatts of power. What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: Once again, I am Brian and this week I have.
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  Speaker 3: A special guest with me.
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  Speaker 4: Let me introduce you to Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Don Reese. Hello.
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  Speaker 4: I asked Don to join me here today because, number one,
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  Speaker 4: he's a big movie fan, but in addition to that,
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  Speaker 4: you're also a comedian. So I guess give him a
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  Speaker 4: basic overview of how long have you been doing stand-up?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know the day, but I do know
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  Speaker 2: the month. I started in, it was actually 2010. How
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  Speaker 2: many years is this? 27 years ago this month, I
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  Speaker 2: did my first open mic.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And the business was really booming back then, so it
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  Speaker 2: was easy to kind of move into a full-time. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: I got bounced off my day job, which I think
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  Speaker 2: kind of expedited things. So in November of 85, I
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  Speaker 2: went full-time. So 25 years next month, I'm making my living.
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  Speaker 3: As a comic.
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  Speaker 4: That puts a fire under your wing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Suddenly, I have to come up with money.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 4: But, yeah, that's quite an ordeal. And, yeah, it's changed
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  Speaker 4: a lot. And several times, it seems. You know, 80s
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  Speaker 4: was a very different business. The 90s took a dive,
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  Speaker 4: kind of. Yeah. It's come back around, but it's a
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  Speaker 4: very different form than it ever was in the 80s.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different animal these days. Yeah. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: still shocked they managed to survive this long. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's because I have absolutely no other options. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just totally unemployable outside of this now. A few
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  Speaker 2: years ago, I had some problems, and I thought, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, I'm home. I'll try and get some temp work.
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  Speaker 2: I just found just absolutely how unnecessary I am. I just,
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  Speaker 2: can you do, no, no, you're a big guy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I've got a bad back. I can't lift. Okay, no.
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  Speaker 2: It was just pathetic. It's like, here's $ 10. Let's pretend
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  Speaker 2: we had this conversation. Let me back out of here slowly, please.
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  Speaker 4: What was your last normal job?
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  Speaker 2: The last job I had was I worked in radio.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't on air. I wrote commercials. And, uh, I,
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  Speaker 2: when I was in radio, I always got along with
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  Speaker 2: anybody in the creative end, the on air guys. I
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  Speaker 2: love any kind of suit. We just did. I just,
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  Speaker 2: I'm the worst guy to have in an office environment.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't, I do not fit. Plus I had
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  Speaker 2: a bad habit of, uh, Well, you know, a salesman
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  Speaker 2: would come in with like a client's order and he'd
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  Speaker 2: write a commercial. I had a bad habit. If I
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  Speaker 2: had any extra time at all, I would write a
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  Speaker 2: fake commercial, which I usually show them first. And then
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  Speaker 2: they go, okay, where's the real one? This guy came
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  Speaker 2: in in a hurry. And we had our first, I
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  Speaker 2: live in Sioux City, Iowa. And we had our first
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  Speaker 2: tattoo parlor open there. It was called Skin Art Tattoo.
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  Speaker 2: And the commercial was, it was around the holiday season.
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  Speaker 2: It was gift certificates for tattoos. So I wrote a
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  Speaker 2: great commercial, which actually, I think, I get mixed up.
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  Speaker 2: Someday I did one in a war. I can't remember
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  Speaker 2: if that was the one or not, but. The one
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  Speaker 2: I wrote says, this year you have the gift of
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  Speaker 2: permanent disfigurement. And the salesman's in a hurry, so he
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  Speaker 2: just grabs us. He's running down the hallway. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: before I can say, wait a minute. Thank God I
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  Speaker 2: just heard this. I can't show him this from down
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  Speaker 2: the hallway. Come back. Come back. Here's the real one. Relax.
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  Speaker 2: Come in off the ledge.
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  Speaker 4: At least, you know, tattoo artists and owners of those
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  Speaker 4: places have a good sense of humor about that sort
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  Speaker 4: of thing. That would be one of the easier ones
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  Speaker 4: to break in a comedy one. Yeah, suits in a
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  Speaker 4: normal business, you'd really be in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: So let's see, I guess, where did your interest in
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  Speaker 4: comedy first start?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's strange. It's kind of like comedy and
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  Speaker 2: monster movies. It's just one of these things I always liked,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't really tie it. I just loved it.
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  Speaker 2: you know, both when I was a kid. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I just remember always liking to watch stand-up comedians.
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  Speaker 2: TV shows, it was almost always. My dad, you know,
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  Speaker 2: worked several jobs, so. my mom, but Billy Graham wasn't on.
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  Speaker 2: We pretty much watched where we wanted to. Not that
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  Speaker 2: we had to really censor back then. Everything was pretty safe.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: But I always gravitated. I always wanted to watch either
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  Speaker 2: comedies or, you know, there wasn't really much horror, but
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  Speaker 2: there were science fiction shows. But again, that's what I
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  Speaker 2: liked watching. So I always did and I always thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: this would be a cool job. I never, for years,
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  Speaker 2: I never really realized that the work that went into
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  Speaker 2: being a stand-up, I thought these guys went on stage
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  Speaker 2: and just riffed off the top of their head and
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  Speaker 2: realized that they actually crafted these routines. It wasn't until
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  Speaker 2: I read, I mean, at this point, I'd been trying
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  Speaker 2: to write comedy. I was in high school. I read
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  Speaker 2: the book, Dick Gregory's Autobiography, and he talked about how
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  Speaker 2: he made the transition from being an athlete to a comedian.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I trained my mind the way I train
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  Speaker 2: my body. I thought, okay, maybe you can kind of
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  Speaker 2: learn this. I was obsessed enough. I managed to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't more talented than the other guys at the
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  Speaker 2: open mics. I'm here because I'm more obsessed than that.
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  Speaker 4: That's usually what it takes.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Stick with it.
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  Speaker 2: You want to get wives.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely. And especially in that, what I know of that
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  Speaker 4: business is if you're willing to drive to several open
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  Speaker 4: mics a night, it's like you can make a name
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  Speaker 4: for yourself. If you're going to not put the time
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  Speaker 4: and effort in and think it's going to come to you,
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  Speaker 4: you're never going to find it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely an interesting business to go into. Um,
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  Speaker 4: as far as, yeah, I mean, I guess those early days,
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  Speaker 4: was it, you know, you said TV, were there specific standup?
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  Speaker 2: I liked about all of them. The first guy I
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  Speaker 2: really remember liking a lot was Bill Cosby because, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was, well, I had like, um, before
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  Speaker 2: he was my brother-in-law, we had the album. So I'd
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  Speaker 2: access those, I could borrow those and listen to them
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  Speaker 2: and my neighbor had them. So those are the ones
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  Speaker 2: I listened and memorized.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And just repeated ad nauseum, David Wentworth with a near shot.
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  Speaker 2: I drove the neighborhood, everywhere in the neighborhood nuts. I
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  Speaker 2: was dealing with Bill Cosby, you know, and I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: about stuff I don't, some of it I don't even
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  Speaker 2: understand myself. Yeah. When you're trying to sell it to eight-year-olds,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 4: I remember a lot of stand-up as a kid that
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  Speaker 4: I thought was great, and then years later I'll be like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that's what that joke was about.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: You said labor pain's a joke. That's a joke you
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  Speaker 2: get from working. I had no idea what a labor
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  Speaker 2: pain was. I'm talking about labor pains. You know what
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  Speaker 2: labor pains are? Kind of.
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  Speaker 4: That's how you got that bad back, right? Labor pains.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh man but yeah it's it's especially such a different
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  Speaker 4: world thinking that you know albums was really only access
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  Speaker 4: for most people it's yeah exactly there were very few
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  Speaker 4: even on tv at that point short of tonight show
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  Speaker 4: you know the the few that were lucky enough to
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  Speaker 4: make it there but when i.
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  Speaker 2: Was a kid i couldn't uh during the school year
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  Speaker 2: to be in bed by 10 you know by the
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  Speaker 2: time the news was over 10 o'clock i had to
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  Speaker 2: be in bed so i mean i missed all the
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  Speaker 2: late night Remember one night I couldn't sleep because I
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  Speaker 2: knew Frank Gorshin was going to be on Carson. So
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  Speaker 2: I got up. I can't sleep. Go to bed. You
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  Speaker 2: just heard him say Batman. My dad just drove him crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other venues, well, Sullivan you could watch.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But the other ones were like the Merv, the Mike Douglas,
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  Speaker 2: they were all during the day.
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  Speaker 4: Middle of the day.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, when you got a stand-up, it was really...
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  Speaker 2: Because they had variety shows back then, too. That was a.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit, yeah. But you'd have to put up
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  Speaker 4: with dance numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to watch the Tom Hanson dancers.
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  Speaker 2: I want to watch the comic. I want to watch sketches,
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  Speaker 2: you know. Definitely.
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  Speaker 3: It's, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It was very challenging, I'm assuming, where now it's just
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  Speaker 4: there's so much out there and the Internet's like flooded
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  Speaker 4: with it. So it's a very different world for somebody now. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's interesting. As far as your love of movies, I
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  Speaker 4: guess kind of give people a taste of what sort
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  Speaker 4: of movies. You know, you've mentioned a few, but just
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  Speaker 4: your taste in movies.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I tend to like older films. I'm not... It's
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  Speaker 2: not that I'm not open to watching new stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: see so little anymore. To me, after a while, the
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  Speaker 2: curse of being around this long is like, okay, this
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  Speaker 2: is this with more taco sauce on it, pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: After a while, it starts to really repeat. I really
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  Speaker 2: love monster movies as opposed to horror movies. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want psychologically complex thrillers. I want a guy in a suit.
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  Speaker 4: It's a different mode.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It's not that I'm one of these guys
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  Speaker 2: who just likes stuff because it's... not that good. Some guys...
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  Speaker 2: I do like it. I love Plan 9. I think
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  Speaker 2: Plan 9 is surreal entertaining. I mean, you can't say
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  Speaker 2: it's a great movie, probably, but I can't say it's
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  Speaker 2: not entertaining.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I just watched that and anything he made and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, there's so much love in it.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: You have to appreciate that man's dedication. It's another one
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  Speaker 4: I was sticking to it. I mean, for years, he
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  Speaker 4: was just convinced he was a real movie director.
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  Speaker 2: And he got... It's what Bob Burns put in his book.
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  Speaker 2: He was talking about he actually... got to meet him.
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  Speaker 2: He actually spent some time watching him shoot.
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  Speaker 4: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I got to meet him. One of the
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  Speaker 2: greatest guys in the world. And in his book, I
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  Speaker 2: love what he says. He says, unlike his detractors, Ed
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  Speaker 2: Wood got movies made. I'm like, that's it.
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  Speaker 8: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: That's the difference.
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  Speaker 2: It's like these independent filmmakers. Oh, he's shooting junk on
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  Speaker 2: VHSC tapes. What do you care? He's getting it done
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  Speaker 2: while you're sitting there carping about how you would do
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  Speaker 2: it if you could. He's doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Or planning things, you know, grand movies you're going to make.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, He's piecing stuff together that, granted, it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: look good, but he got his story told. Exactly. That's different.
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  Speaker 2: I think Ed Wood, one thing I've always felt so
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  Speaker 2: bad about, when he died and was 78, and the
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  Speaker 2: Golden Turkey Awards book came out in 80.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That voted him the worst director. And I'm thinking, if
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  Speaker 2: this guy could have... have hung on until like 1981,
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  Speaker 2: he'd be doing the college lecture circuit. Somebody would be
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  Speaker 2: giving him, seeing him out some money. And the movie's probably,
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  Speaker 2: it's like somebody who knows him says, you could give
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  Speaker 2: him a million dollar budget and it'd still be junk.
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  Speaker 2: It's just ambition over talent, but you have to respect that.
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  Speaker 4: And especially, I mean, at that point, that's kind of
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  Speaker 4: so many movies were sort of like, here's a poster,
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  Speaker 4: make it match. So there was a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 4: that got churned out in that system that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: aren't A-list movies.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: But his, yeah, had such a, just an element of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, complete love for what is, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: filmmaking that he was doing. Good, bad, or otherwise, he
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  Speaker 4: just loved making movies.
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  Speaker 2: This wasn't a bunch of bean counters throwing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: buzzwords into a hat. Okay, let's tie all these together.
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  Speaker 2: That's all about, like you said, Edward, the love of
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  Speaker 2: it comes through. It's amazing to watch, I think. Although
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  Speaker 2: I still haven't made it through Glen or Glenda. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: that's a slog. I keep going, I'll come back to this.
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  Speaker 4: I have that one, yeah. I can't remember if I've
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  Speaker 4: made it all the way through or not. I have
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  Speaker 4: the whole set of his. I like stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: And I like the great stuff, too. I love Day
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  Speaker 2: of the Earth, Cecilia, I love it. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: genuine classics. And I have a soft spot for like
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  Speaker 2: the movie The Atomic Submarine, which has some of the
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  Speaker 2: worst miniatures I've ever seen. A little clue, if you're
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  Speaker 2: going to shoot close-ups of a balsa wood sub, sand.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see wood grain on the side
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  Speaker 2: of a U.S. system. And the screws on the first one,
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  Speaker 2: the propellers look like you took cardboard discs on a
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  Speaker 2: toothpick and just kind of cut around. Oh, it's... Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I know. If you've ever seen it, it's... Yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 4: I still kind of love those, too. I mean, there's...
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  Speaker 4: I do, too. It's the same thing with, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the paper plates on a string for a flying saucer. Like,
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  Speaker 4: to me, it's like if you get it across, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if I know what you're going for, I'll cut you
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  Speaker 4: a break for, like, you don't have any money, you know?
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  Speaker 4: It's like I almost respect the fact that you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to tell your story... And get it out there, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with the budget that you have. More than just, you know,
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  Speaker 4: putting $ 10 billion towards CGI. It looks almost as bad
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  Speaker 4: to me these days.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, CGI.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm just starting to think I was just
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  Speaker 2: an old grouchy guy. I didn't like CGI. There's so
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  Speaker 2: much I've seen. I remember I once saw the movie. See,
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  Speaker 2: on the road, I have my days off. And I
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  Speaker 2: used to go to a Plex and have to decide
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  Speaker 2: between one of three movies to go to. Now I
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  Speaker 2: can't find one. I remember when I was still going
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  Speaker 2: and checking about everything, you know, monster for a while.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I saw Anaconda and I said, I can do this
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  Speaker 2: on my laptop and I suck on my laptop. How
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  Speaker 2: does this not... Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Horrible it's yeah well then there's the whole new level
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  Speaker 4: because we we have a love-hate relationship with the sci-fi
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  Speaker 4: channel movies because that's all they look like they're like
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  Speaker 4: atari quality graphics they're pretty bad but again there's almost
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  Speaker 4: a level granted there's no love in those they're just.
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  Speaker 2: Whether it meets frogger yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They're just cranking out you know whatever two animals they
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  Speaker 4: can slap together in a movie but We all kind
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: of enjoyed Sharktopus on this show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a little bit of that. I said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I like it. I don't know why I
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  Speaker 2: like octopus movies. So I got a lot. I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's terrible. But then, you know, like the remake of Piranha,
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  Speaker 2: everybody tells me how funny. I said, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: The original, again, not a classic, but you had Barbara Steele.
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  Speaker 2: Bradford Dillman, I think, is the most underrated guy ever.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this guy started writing books. because he the
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  Speaker 2: phone stopped ringing he could do anything i mean bad
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  Speaker 2: guy good guy weasel hero doesn't matter bradford dillman's like
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  Speaker 2: a swiss army knife he could do it all wow
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  Speaker 2: and i just you watch those and that's why i
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  Speaker 2: think i missed the most of the cast these great
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  Speaker 2: b-movie stalwart guys.
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  Speaker 4: There's i mean there's still a lot of like character
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  Speaker 4: actors out there now but it's yeah it's still kind
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  Speaker 4: of a different world than it was for yeah the
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  Speaker 4: b-movies back in the day but Piranha actually is pretty impressive,
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  Speaker 4: I have to say.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to look it up.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of those, I give that director credit because
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  Speaker 4: he really knew what he was doing, and he's almost
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  Speaker 4: like making commentary about the old movies and sort of society.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's so extreme. He does it almost to
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  Speaker 4: the point where it is making some sort of statement
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  Speaker 4: on the... ridiculous gore that's in the old movies and
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  Speaker 4: movies now and some of the dumb characters it's like
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  Speaker 4: he's almost making them dumb on purpose to kind of
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  Speaker 4: shine a spotlight on how stupid some of the characters
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  Speaker 4: in these movies are so yeah it's a little smarter
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  Speaker 4: than i expected going in okay i think i mean
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  Speaker 4: it's it's it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: I guess i i'm at the point now where i
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  Speaker 2: have to hear something from someone whose opinion i respect
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  Speaker 2: yeah see it I still haven't seen the remake of
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: The Wolfman, which shocks me because I'm a huge... It's
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: pretty bad. I'm a huge... Lon Chaney Jr. is one
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: of my favorite actors. And I just thought... And a
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: friend of mine, who had a MonsterCon, brought a copy
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: of it. And I watched a few scenes. It was interesting,
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: the effects and everything. But I thought, I don't know.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I'm getting a tone here that I just don't.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: See, the one thing I took, it looks good. Like,
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: they did a good job as far as, you know, making...
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: Because it's, you know, it's a period piece, which the
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: original wasn't even. So it's kind of interesting.
• 14:52
  Speaker 9: That, you know.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: They've got that period area like through London and off
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: in the moors. That all kind of looks good, and
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: the atmosphere of it kind of does feel like sort
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: of they're going for that old universal horror movie, but
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: just story-wise, it's missing a lot. Performance-wise, I even like
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: Benicio Del Toro, but he doesn't really do a great job.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: It's kind of a letdown, yeah. I was hoping for
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: a lot more out of that one.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Van Helsing's one I still haven't seen. I heard
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: so many red flags on that one.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: I've avoided it, too. Yeah, so how.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I baz it, it'll break your heart. Okay, I just
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: have to hear that. My friends, I just feel like,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's about time you take the hit.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: You go see some crappy movie and warn me because
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: I've gotten so lazy about it. Everybody else has to
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: go out and take the chances for me. Go fall
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: on the grenade. If there's anything left to you, come
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: back and tell me.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, how can you mess that up? I mean,
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: you've got so much. fun there. It's like, all you
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: have to do is make a guy killing monsters. I mean,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: that seems like a simple scenario. I mean, even, you know,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Monster Squad did a better job. I mean, that's a
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: fun movie.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I loved Monster Squad.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one I missed for years, and we just
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: went back and watched it in the last two years,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: and I'm just like, you know what? I'll give them credit.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: This is a fun movie. This is a movie, when
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I was a kid, that's what you wanted to see.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: How can you mess up something like Van Helsing? It's
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: the same idea. This is somebody who.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Loves the genre did this.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: This is not... you know which again just.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Made by 12 year olds now and i just yeah
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: it's it's frightening 12 year olds in business suits exactly.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: That's the two evils somebody who has no mind for
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: anything you know useful and somebody who's only worried about
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: the economics involved and Yeah, it's sad.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: It's all about the deal. It's not about the content.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: There's a lot. I think they start with the action
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: figures and work backwards from that.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, you've got to have your action figures.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: You've got to have your McDonald's tie-in. If you can't
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: slap it on the side of a Happy Meal, you
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: don't need to make the movie.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: It's sad. Oh, man. There used to be a movie
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: that was released as a film. a novelization and now
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: it's a happy meal at least his food.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Well now now they're working backwards and again on the
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: show we make fun of it all the time that
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: they're basing other you know it's a movie based on
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: a toy it's a movie based on a you know
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: it's bad enough a video game but some of those
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: have a mild story but like a toy line or
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: a board game and i'm just like really this is
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: what we come.
• 17:15
  Speaker 10: To it's sad they're not really risk takers.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Oh man it's yeah it's weird I did want to
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: ask you, I mean, we kind of know the sci-fi
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: and horror. As far as comedies, because we, it was
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: funny for a long time where I was just picking
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: movies and we, you know, as a group would pick
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: some and I realized midway through, almost no comedies. And
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: it's like, I just, there's so few modern comedies I like.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: I was like, you know, being in comedy, I didn't
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: know your take on comedy films, as it were.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: That's another thing, too. I used to see comedies a
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: lot when I was on the road, and now it's
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: just so much of it's like the Will Ferrell, and
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get mad about this, but I don't
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: even begrudge the guy success. I just, my thing is
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: so many movies are popular, so many characters are so
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: untethered to reality.
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Everyone's over the top. It's just, it's just nothing there.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Then again, I love the movie Used Cars. My wife,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I saw it when it came out, and I still
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: can't believe it wasn't here. We laughed ourselves sick. And again,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the characters are over the top, but at least there's some...
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Compare that to the... And I'm really embarrassed. I saw it.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I can't remember the name of it. the one with
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Jeremy Piven where he's selling used cars. Compare those two together.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, it's a gulf of difference. This
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: is so crazy, so insane.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: I'm a huge used cars fan. I love that movie.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much. I mean, my wife, I just
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: constantly quote in dialogue, you want to say a thing?
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: About what?
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: That line just cracks me up. I saw that at
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the time, and I remember I tried to get everybody
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I knew to go to it, and people, ah, it
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't look good. And I said, Man, you don't know
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: what you're missing. This is fun stuff.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: It's so well-written.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Jack Ward is worth seeing once anyway.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: But just the comedy. I mean, it's so well-written. It's
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: got the lowbrow stuff, but it's so smart that it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: put in the way that it's put in there. It's
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: just so clever.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Man, it's so funny.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I love the, just a lot of great throwaway lines
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: people miss where he says, we have to fight fire
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: with fire. You know, you should fight fire with enhanced
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: radiation weaponry. Just as he's walking out. I mean, it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: just like, if you're not paying attention, if you laugh
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: at the last joke, it'll slide right by you.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: The pacemaker kills me.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Garrett Graham kind of reaches out to touch it, kind
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: of brushes his hand away, don't mess with it. His
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: cluster of wires sticking out. How are you rechargeable? How
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: do you change the batteries in that?
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: It's so funny. But yeah, there's such a different thing
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: going on in comedy now that's just so dumbed down.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: That i yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's it's really hard to find stuff and people
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: recommend stuff all the time there's a comic actually coming
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: here the caravan named stewart huff who was one of
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: man one of the most original minds i've ever met
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: funny and just the greatest guy in the world we
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: were working together in virginia and someone said you got
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to check out joe dirt and they raved and raved
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and this is somebody who's runs a comedy club. Their
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: mom ran the comedy club. We watch it, and we're
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: just kind of looking at one another. What am I missing?
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: The only thing that made us laugh was the stuff
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: with walking.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's always funny.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Doing his little dialogue with stabbing a face with a
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: soldering iron. You know, that, we were dying. Anyway, walk, again,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: another guy.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, even when he's not trying to be funny.
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, right.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just, and I feel bad because, you know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: like Adam Sandler, I worked with years ago, a nice guy,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: and I just, The only movie I ever liked was
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: The Wedding Singer because he actually plays close to like
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: a real, he's not doing some kind of sub-moronic voice.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: And he just screams the whole, like he's just angry.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, where does that even come from? Because
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: he seems like such a normal, like boring guy. And
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: every time he's on screen, he just has to beat
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: people up and scream. I'm just like, where is this
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: coming from? What sort of sick inner twisted turmoil is this?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't like what he's done so far. This is good.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I'll see the next one. No, I won't. Not after this.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, Happy Gilmore has its moments, too. And those
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: were pretty early on. It's almost like he's gotten worse
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: and worse in his comedies as time goes on. It's like, yeah,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: some of them now, I just watched the trailer. I'm like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I'm done already.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I think based on an SNL skit. You know, you
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: look at SNL. I don't want to go off on
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: a tangent. But the thing is, we were friends. Look
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: at the stuff that's on SNL now, the guests they have.
• 21:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: The offshoots, the movies. This is the type of stuff
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the original cast would have just savaged.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: You would have never. You think Michael O'Donoghue would have
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a good thing to say about Joe Dirt? You know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: do you think, you know, and I remember the original show,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: they'd have like the short films, Gary Weiss. They weren't
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: just set a punchline. They were funny. They were thoughtful.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: They were. unusual. You couldn't do that. I don't know
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: what sits still for it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: That's about the only thing that kind of works on
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: the new show. Like the digital shorts they do every
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: once in a while are really well put together. And again,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: it looks like they put a lot of time into
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: that beforehand. It wasn't what they had to slap together
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: in that week when the guests showed up. So all
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: the new stuff, yeah, there's... maybe one or two good
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: skits in an hour and a half show. That's kind
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: of sad.
• 22:10
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Somebody moved the definition of hip on me.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I just, I remember what we used to think was
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: hip and now, cause it was really cutting edge stuff
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: back then. Not just because they were pushing the envelope
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: is what you could say or subject matter. I mean, but,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Which I think everybody thinks is edgy now. No, just
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: because it's dirtier or like, wow, look what I said.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I'm an adult and mom and dad, you can't make
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: me do anything I don't want to do. I'm going
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: to stay up all night long and eat ice cream
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: and you can't do anything about it. You know what
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I mean? That's the feel I get. Whereas back then
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: it was like, okay, I see what you're going for.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: You're making a larger point here.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a tone that they had, especially once
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: they got into the news segments and stuff. Nobody had
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: really done a lot of that before. So yeah, it
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: was pushing the envelope then.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: You think on that show open and there was a
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Belushi and the first one in O'Donohue, and he's like
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: trying to teach them English. I will feed your fingertips
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: to the Wolverines. I'm like, what? I mean, went back
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: and was like, what did I stumble onto? I mean,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: we were big Python fans before that. So, I mean,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: we were, I just, I was a kid. I just,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I liked, see, I always wanted to be, I didn't
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: want to be, I thought it'd be cool to be
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: in comedy, but I wanted to be in a comedy group.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I was a fire sign theater guy. I loved movie
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: comedy teams. So, I mean, it was cool seeing that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, to me, comedy, Comedy groups were like rock
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: bands to me back then. That's how I kind of
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: thought the original, not really for primetime players.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of were, yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: It was kind of the new rock and roll back.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: It was huge in the 80s. All of a sudden,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: it was like, wow. Then it just kind of, well,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: we kind of shot ourselves in the foot. So many
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: clubs opened. So many guys got in who really just
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: kind of want to avoid adulthood as long as possible.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I hate to say that, but they're out there.
• 23:45
  Speaker 12: Come on.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. I think I'm doing that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: What do you.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Don't we all kind of, to.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Some extent, do that? To an extent, yeah.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: But yeah, there's different levels, at least.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: But.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know. The comedy troops have started to come back.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: It seems like in, in the last 10 years, there's,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: there's all these like resurgence of like the, Oh, like
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: what is the one in the, the UCB theater that's
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: come up and the, the, the Derek comedies when we just,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: that was one of the good examples I had lately.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: And what, what reminded me and maybe want to ask you,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: cause yeah, the, the Derek comedy movie was amazing. Like I'm,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: I'm so impressed with how clever it is and how
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: it doesn't fall into just doing little skits strung together
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: for an hour and a half. It's, it's pretty well
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: written too.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: So it's, I got to check that out then. The
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: last comedy, man, it's been so long. My wife, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: it's funny, it was just a hot day. I haven't
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: seen the Clooney movie. It's up in the air, and
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I liked it. But other than that, it's like Iron Man.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: It's got to be an event movie I really want
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: to see. I'm going to tell you a movie I
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: saw in a theater. We just went just to get
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: out and go see it. I knew nothing about it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Crossed our fingers, hoped it, and it was a pleasant surprise.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: We thought it would.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Probably be eh.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: It was Bowfinger.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: That was a good movie.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: That made me laugh myself. The whole thing, it just
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: reminded me so much of Ed Wood, the whole, a
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: super low budget, we're going to shoot this on the fly.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: The whole concept is like, you know, why hasn't somebody
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: done this yet? Because I totally see this. Paparazzi, you
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: always seem to know what the stars are. It'd be
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: very easy to just.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: To make your own little movie.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: They'd probably sit in a vault.
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Never see the light of day.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: You'd get sued six times over from whoever you were using.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's, it's still a funny idea. And it
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: was one that totally like flew under the radar. Like it,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: I remember it came out, it made no money. And
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: I think it was like cable before I watched it.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: And I was like, actually, this is really, you know, funny.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: And again, that was, you know, probably towards the end
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: of the good run of Steve Martin. Cause he's another
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: one that was just genius back in the day. And I,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: it makes me sad to see the stuff he has
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: to do now because he's so much better than that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I think the thing about standup, I kind of liked
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: when so many guys that transitioned to actors in your standup,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I know. And it's, it's, it is a hard job.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: The bigger you get, uh, it does get away from you.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: You go from work into a small room where you
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: can feel like you can, you're aiming at people. You
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: really have a feeling like it's all, you have a
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: contact with everybody in the room, too, like stadiums. I
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: can't imagine doing comedy in stadiums. That's crazy to me.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that sort of goes so against, you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: how you start out.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: But when they were stand-ups, at least you have, I
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: think you have a degree of like, okay, you can
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: scale back. Okay, I'm only going to work smaller venues.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: And I just hate to see guys, especially with great comics,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: they go into movies and the parts they get They
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: play these really, they're some of the worst stuff. Larry Miller,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I think, is a brilliant comic. And I've seen him
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: in some of the worst crap. He was that awful
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: remake of, I call it a remake, name only, Carnival
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: of Souls. Yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 11: Ouch.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Because I love that original. That one's bad.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: That original's great.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: That's like a tone poem.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I don't think I made it through the remake. No.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I just got, I remember reading Candace Hillegoss, who I
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: had a crush on from that movie. I thought she was.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm watching this movie because I went in with
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: all these ideas and they just threw everything out, took
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the name, just basically took it and ran away with it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: And I said, this is what you have. This is
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: what you have to show for it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Seriously? Yeah, some of these, again, just remakes in general.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: It's so far gone.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: The only last remake I saw that I really thought
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: was better than the original, and this is debatable for people.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I really liked Ocean's Eleven better than the original. The
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: original has a fun cast, but I don't think it's really...
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: A great movie. The remake is fun and it's a
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: lot of good chemistry.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I'm okay when they can find something different to do
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: with it instead of just trying to choose some sort
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: of shot for shot. Try to do something with the
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: idea and then sort of do their own thing. I
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: actually really liked the Dawn of the Dead remake.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: That's the first thing you start saying.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I don't like it as much as the original, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: my thing is, I love the fact, all right, they're
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: fast moving. They went their own way.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. They took the basic idea, but then from there,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: it doesn't really try to tie in every little thing
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: and do a complete remake, which makes it kind of boring.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: To me, he just did everything original from there.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: That's pretty cool. It's like, yeah, it's not quite the same,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: but it's pretty close.
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: It gets.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: for that point they were putting out a lot of
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: bad zombie movies and that was one of the first
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: ones that sort of came back with okay well they
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: can really still do a good zombie movie now.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I told guys you know you like the original well
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: you might like this I'll tell you what I says
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: if it shows up on cable even if you don't
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: think you're going to watch the whole thing watch that
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: opening sequence I'll put that toe to toe with anything
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: wow that really is really incredibly well done that's bam bam.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Bam that yeah they pull back and the city's just
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: in ruins and it It's a way to lead into
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: a movie.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: That's good because Romero, the Romero stuff I love so
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: much because I don't think anyone shows society imploding as
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: well as Romero does. It's so thoughtful of me. I
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: was watching Land of the Dead. like a couple weeks ago.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I really liked that one.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I did too. And the thing is, I didn't care
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: for Dennis Hopper. I thought it wasn't really fun in it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I think the thing about Romero movies, I tend to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: like to see them with non-stars because you find these
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: great actors. Who knew, I'm blanking on his last name, Ed,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: he was Knight Riders.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, Ed Harris?
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Ed Harris. Yeah. So you see guys who have been,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Ken Frey's a great actor, but that's before anyone knew
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: who he was.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: But I just, I watched that, and I says, the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: scene that really I thought was hilarious was that scene
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: where they're in that bar, that nasty bucket of blood bar,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and they've got zombies chained up by the neck and hand,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and you stand just outside of their reach as they
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: claw you and get your picture taken.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Once the initial shock is over, you start trying to,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: you start getting used to it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: That's our society. This is what's going to happen.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: This is what people will do. That's so believable to me.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I totally get that. You'll be going, I can't believe
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: somebody's down at the, yeah, they would be.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people had issues with that. That's
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: kind of the last... I haven't even watched the Diary.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I watched the diary.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: It's okay.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: It's just one of those things... just for Romero movies,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the characters are just not that compelling.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Everything he's done since then is everybody's just kind of like,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: maybe he needs to stop. But yeah, everything up to
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: land was pretty impressive.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: What's the newest one? The one I've heard of, I
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: haven't seen it. It takes place like on an island.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a western almost.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I can't even, I haven't seen that in stores. The
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: land had some very funny, and I love the fact,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: just little things like, they call them stenches. They've got
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: a lingo developed around it.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Which is how it would be.
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: Exactly.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: There's a lot more thought put into that than a
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: lot of other movies. But yeah, I liked Land of
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: the Dead more than most people. But since then, yeah,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know what he's thinking on some of the
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: newer ones.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Day was not really bad, but it was
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: very talky.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Very talking.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't get into a lot of the, especially the
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: bad guys are so over the top.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so crazy.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: They're so like chewing the scenery. Whereas like on Dawn,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: it wasn't really, I mean, you know, the crazy bikers.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: But it was so much more a condensed kind of
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: movie about our main characters.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: They're dangerous, but they're kind of semi-buffoon.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: That thing with the whole like, can it, can it?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: He's trying to talk and he's got this. Nazi looking
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: helmet on it was like yeah this this guy. Yeah,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I was watching an interview with Romero So I never
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I don't it's never a horror film. It's more like
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: a like a comedy nice I get that but it's
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: still a lot shocking and I love mechanical effects. We're
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: talking about you know CGI and That thing where they
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: rip a guy's stomach open. My wife finally watched it
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: with me because I knew all the bad parts of it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: That was nice. I go, don't look.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: And she says, yo, this is a good one. I said, yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: this isn't just a body count movie. When Flyboy and
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: these guys turn, you go, oh, man, I want him
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: to get out.
• 31:18
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, and it's a thoughtful movie. I mean, there's
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: a lot of stuff going on with just the dynamic
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: of the three main characters that are kind of left behind.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: And then. Where they kind of are trying to figure
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: out what their place in the world is at this point.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: It's like, what's your point of living when everything's destroyed?
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's little touches of that in there that,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: you know, not everybody would bother to put in a
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: movie with people ripping a stomach out midway through.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I've got friends of mine who griped about that. They said,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I don't get the whole thing with the piney face.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I said, well, I think the whole thing was just
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the biker's. You think, okay, somebody will rise up. No, no.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: It isn't numbers and savagery are not going to save you.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: You know, I think that's why I took away from that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: At that point, it just, yeah, it's so silly during
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: the whole biker scene. But everything else outside of that
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: is pretty serious. Yeah. Yeah, that becomes the comic relief,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Where do you find the one-legged priest i got that
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: i'm like only you would find this guy you know
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: i just thought it can't be just some some guy's
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: neighbor i'm like.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: No no gotta find that guy no cgi either that's
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: a one-legged guy you just find one-legged actors that's you
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: know back when they made it huh difficult for being
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: your directors man so then um I was going to say,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: as far as a tie-in, what was it, you know,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: that made you want to start tying movies into your
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: act as you went on?
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I always like horror movies. I like to talk
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: about my friends, you know. We would joke about it
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: and just say, you're no assist in the movie. The guys,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of take them apart like there's a
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Pruder film and you see this doesn't make sense. But
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: we were all comic book and famous Monsters of Filmland fans.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: And one thing I used to, it was a I
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: always thought pirates always amused me for some reason. And
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do a pirate bit in my act,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: a pirate doing stand-up. And I could never get it
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: to work. And in 88, I was just going bald.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I couldn't stand this slow, awful process. So I just
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: shaved my head. Back then, people, it was very... really
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: made you stick out.
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: The timing was the worst because it was around that
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: time that Geraldo got his nose bashed in by a skinhead. Yeah. Right.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: So everybody thought it was, you know, dangerous or, you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: off the leash, you know, for the first few years.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: But then I noticed, okay, all these bits I tried
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: before now work because of the way I look.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I started talking about, well, I can sell this. This
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: works now. And that's what brought it together. And then
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I started doing the monster bash. Now, all this stuff
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: was always, um, kindly that we have things about hearses
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: and yeah scaring people and then went the monster bash
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and uh convention it's uh held around the pittsburgh area
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: usually in butler it's been held there more years than
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: any other place yeah and uh i talked to him
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: i got to go on and uh intro a movie
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: the brute man was rondo hatton i got the intro
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: of the movie nice and um it was packed so
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: tight the convention ain't gonna give me 15 minutes and
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: it was I listen back to tape. It's painful because
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I try to get so much in 15 minutes.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: I got greedy, you know.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just they did a Q & A with
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: the actress, Jane Addams from the movie. Took a break.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Everybody left. 15 people left. Next year, they just did
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: a Q & A with Carolyn Monroe.
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: And I told the guy, just bring me up. Don't
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: take it. And she's, this is so cool. Carolyn Monroe
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: said on the site, I've had this major crush on her,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: you know, since puberty.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: And she's sitting there laughing. How cool is my life?
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I got a Bond girl cracking up my act right now.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Carolyn Monroe is here in the room. Golden Voyage of Sinbad,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Carolyn Monroe.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: That makes it a little better.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 11: Oh, yeah.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Pinhead, Doug Bradley.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: And the audience told me how much he liked it
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: at Monster Mania.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Nice. That's very good.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Life is truly good.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: So at that point, yeah, it was sort of green.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: And now it's funny because, I mean, you couldn't have
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: done that kind of stuff. definitely not when you started
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: but no you know the geek world has kind of
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: crossed over so much that like even normal day people
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: know comic book references and know you know pretty a
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: lot of pop culture movie references so you can actually
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: work a lot more stuff into stuff in the last
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: you know 10 years it's it's sort of changed oh you.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Pick up a copy of ink and stan lee's in
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: it yeah that amazes me because i remember stan lee
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: in the comics in a soapbox he used to say
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: how he used to tell people What do you do
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: for a living? You'd be at a party. So I
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: write comic books. He looked at me from outer space
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: and he said, you know, it's all media. And I go, Yeah,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I never got that. My dad and my dad, oh,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: they hated my comic books. And he says, you're watching
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: these Westerns. This didn't happen either. If you believe these Westerns,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: more people are grazed and knocked unconscious by bullets than
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: ever died from them in the Old West. Everybody gets
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: hit in the forehead just so and knocked out with
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: no permanent damage. Come on. Why is this so odd?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: And plus I was reading.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and they spent, you know, how many years
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: doing like those pulp Western novels that are like exactly
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: the same thing.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, exactly.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Turned them into movies now.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: So it's basically a comic book form of what you're watching. So, yeah.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: You can't really call you out for that.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Being like a little ahead of the curve. I saw
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Mad Max. I read about Mad Max, the first issue
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: of Fangoria. I thought, I've got to see this. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: it came... I think it came to the drive-in.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Because I remember reading a story. They said it just
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: kind of got dumped in this country. It wasn't... They
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: got sold to... Filmways picked it up and it got
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: sold or something like that. They said it showed... It actually...
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: premiered in a theater in New York about a month
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: before I actually went to cable. But I told everybody
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I worked with, only you would go see a movie
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: called Mad Max. Road Warrior comes out, they see this,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: they're just agog, and then they go, oh, did you
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: know there's another one called Mad Max?
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: I told you about it. You said I was an idiot.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: You said I was an idiot. Okay, idiot.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, you have to hang with me now. We have
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: to be joining the waste. We're idiots.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, see. The geeks have their day, finally.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Finally, yeah.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: It's taken us a while.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's great. I mean, I feel bad about
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: some of the way the superhero movies, some of them
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: are just the Batman franchise. Before they rebooted, it was just...
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: You want to get away from that campy Adam West thing. Really?
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: You're putting nipples on the suits and you want to
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: get away from the campy? Are you serious?
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Well, again, it started so well. I really like what
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Tim Burton did with it. And the first ones had
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: such an identifiable look. And he really tried to do
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: something different with it. And it was darker and sort
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: of a meaner version of him than the campy Adam
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: West version. But, yeah, by the time Schumacher got a
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: hold of it, it was a joke. I mean, it
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: was completely just... the one-liners were nonstop and it was just,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: it was atrocious. And even he's apologized now. Even he's like,
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: some of this I had no control over. They, once again,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: they were, I mean, they were marketing stuff and they
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: had like the deal made for the kids meals with
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: the toys and like, You've got to work this extra
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: character in because we're already making this deal. So, I mean,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: even the director is sort of held hostage to that
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: stuff sometimes. And that's sad when it comes to that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: That's very sad.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: That's bad.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: So you wonder who it appeals to. The fans aren't
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: going to like it. They're not the ones. You've lost
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: their loyalty now.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: And most people go, this is so weird. Who likes
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: this stuff? The fans did before you polluted it.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, before you changed it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know what audience you're going for here.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: And they always do that. With the overthinking and the
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: suits get involved, you even look at Spider-Man. I mean,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: the first two Spider-Man movies are great. And then finally...
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: The studio got overly involved with it and went, no,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: we need more bad guys. And we need this storyline.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: And we need you to work in whatever the other
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: villain was. What an awesome three villains per movie.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: This is just overkill. And then you've run through the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: whole Rose Gallery.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: In two movies. You have nothing to do with your
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: next movie because you've killed off every villain. It's so
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: sad that they... They just have to overcomplicate things, whereas
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: that's why the first one or two movies in those
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: series usually work, because they're simplified. Batman, the initial Tim
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Burton one, has one villain. That's why that storyline works,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: because you didn't cram three more in there.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: The three, I like the fact that Batman, the stuff
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I liked the most was the mysterious Ethan. spins around
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: with the gun, he's gone. Yeah. The smoke thing, and
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: he just, that's the stuff I like. They really got that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: It plays with, like, the mythos of Batman.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Exactly. I like that. Where'd he go? Yeah. Like in,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: which one? The Dark Knight.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Where the Joker all of a sudden has a flashlight,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and then Batman's right behind him, and bang. That's the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: stuff I love.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: That's awesome. And why, you know, that's why we like Batman.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: You know, we don't want, you know, nipples.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: He's deadly serious. Batman doesn't do one-liners. Yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: We don't need nipples on the bat suit we don't
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: need 14 new vehicles for him that granted that was
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: in all the series but i mean they get more
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: ridiculous as the other ones go i do.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Like the series but my thing is i i just
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: consider them two.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Different oh yeah it's a different animal and i.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Can separate them so people can't i can't yeah because
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: as a kid and i just love batman i mean
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: i grew up with that And it was funny.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I love the Adam West show.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I do like the alternative that we do have, like, man,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: what they did when they, the Christian, nice, thank you
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: very much. That's great stuff.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see if he can
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: pull off a third movie, because he's putting it together now.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: So it's usually that third one's when it takes the turn,
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: and now it goes to hell.
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Although Iron Man got a jump on it, because by two,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: it's already overcomplicated.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't like it as much as the first. I
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: know it wasn't as smart of me. It was entertaining enough.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I just thought that the first was so good. I
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: always thought, how do you sell Tony Stark? And I
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, make them kind of a wise... Okay,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: that works. And it still fits with the... It's more
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: serious than the comic, but this is still.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: But he seems like a real character, too.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: He's more of a real guy than most comic book
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: movies get in that first one.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: That's smart, that rich, that tall. You probably would be
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: more than just a touch arrogant.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: You'd be a cocky jerk.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you would.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: If you could buy and sell anyone and do whatever
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: the hell you wanted, yeah, you'd get an attitude after
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: a while. So, yeah, it's a shame they kind of
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: lost a lot of that by the second one, but
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: who knows? And once again, the studio is getting involved,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: so what can you do?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Um.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: So I guess that's sort of a pretty good run
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: through of a lot of movie thoughts here. So I
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: guess we will leave it at that and take a
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: break here and be back with this week's Sofa Theater feature.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 41:10
  Speaker 11: Oh, the time is now, the time is here.
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: Now's the time to abide a cheer.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: A tasty life where the price is right.
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: Well, look in here, you'll dig this site.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: The moment's handy for a piece of candy.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Just name your brand, they're all so grand. Hey, what
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: do you think of a nice cool drink?
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: This is the exciting story of the future when America's
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: fleet of atomic submarines begins a desperate search for an
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: unknown enemy whose destruction of polar shipping has the nation's
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: back against the wall. See the mysterious blasting of an
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: atomic sub by this dreadful unseen adversary. The USS Tiger Shark,
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: our last hope. See it fire an intercontinental ballistics missile
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: from under the ice at the North Pole.
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: Welcome to a night of total terror.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: That's Mickey Mouse's penis.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I know it's.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: They don't look to be afraid. They look to be shocked.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Here's vagina!
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Did you see Miley Cyrus' globulous breasts?
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: Night of the Living Podcast.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: I found more syrup on my pants.
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: There's our adventure in fear.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: There was, however, a guy using... An.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Experience in shock.
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: More shattering than your strangest nightmare.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Penetration!
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: Night of the Living Podcast. Of the Living Podcast.
• 43:48
  Speaker 12: My mom went to do the show!
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Don't you cry.
• 43:53
  Speaker 12: It's cold and sleepy, little baby.
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: This is J.T.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Petty, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: We'll have cake and all pretty little houses.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Look.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 44:12
  Speaker 13: We arm ourselves, we set perimeters, we stand guard.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Any of those snake things show up here, we make
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: them extinct.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Come on, Bert, get serious.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you make it sound like a war.
• 44:26
  Speaker 13: What do you people got against being prepared?
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Where's the sugar? Rambo. Wait a minute, Walter's got a
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: CB radio.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Why aren't you calling somebody in Bixby.
• 44:33
  Speaker 13: The police?
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: Oh, no, we can't reach outside the valley because of
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: the mountains.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Melvin, you're next.
• 44:38
  Speaker 14: Come on, sit down, look scared.
• 44:40
  Speaker 12: Okay, yeah.
• 44:41
  Speaker 13: The phone's out.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: The road's out. We're on our own. You two are
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: just loving it, aren't you?
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Come on, Nancy.
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: Let's don't get personal about this thing.
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: We've got to do something.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Hell, yes.
• 44:53
  Speaker 13: We are completely cut off. We've got the cliffs to
• 44:57
  Speaker 13: the north, mountains to the east and the west. That's
• 45:01
  Speaker 13: why Heather and me settled here in the first place.
• 45:03
  Speaker 13: Geographic isolation.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Well, there's got to be some way we can get help.
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: For God's sake, this isn't the moon. What are you
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: going to do.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Walk the 38 miles to Bixby?
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Hey, there's Walter's silent horses.
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: Somebody could ride to Bixby.
• 45:17
  Speaker 15: There are tremors, little tremors In the valley Sunday morning
• 45:24
  Speaker 15: There are tremors in the valley Little tremors, can't you
• 45:29
  Speaker 15: feel them? Lonely cowboy in the valley There's a.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Flower of the valley.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: All right, welcome back to Movie Meltdown Sofa Theater.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: This week's sofa theater feature is Tremors. The year is 1990.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Director Ron Underwood. They plot, according to IMDb, which usually
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: they ruin it right off the bat. According to IMDb,
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: natives of a small, isolated town defend themselves against strange
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: underground creatures, which are killing them one by one. So
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: with that, we'll throw out a huge spoiler alert here,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: and I would hope by now you've seen Tremors, but
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: if not, I'm sure we'll ruin the whole thing for you.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: You have been warned. All right. So actually, I gave
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: you the chance to pick a movie. So you went
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: with this one. What is it that you've liked about
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: this one or wanted to bring me up with this one?
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I love, like I said, I love older, you know,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: the older monster movies. I'm talking 50s. It's probably my favorite.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I love the classic universal stuff, but 50s science fiction
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: is my favorite genre if I had to pick one
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: out of all of them. And this reminded me so
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: much of, because my thing is I'm at the point
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: now I've bought so much of this stuff on DV.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: If I haven't seen it or bought it, I've seen it.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: And I'm almost out of stuff from that era. See,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: so when someone does something that has that kind of
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: a feel like this did, I was just on the road,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: had heard nothing about it. I think I might've been,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I guess, I think I was in Columbia, Missouri, I think.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I just went over and I just called my wife.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: You got to see this movie, Tremors. This is so
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: much fun. It's such a balancing act. I mean, it's funny.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: It's scary. Again, we talked about characters you actually care about.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: It's amazing to me that it's not bigger than it is.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: And really, you take the language out and it's not
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: so much gore. A lot of it is just goo.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: That was the thing I found out in this one.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: It was originally set to be rated R. And they,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: they got into guests cause they, they were working the
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: F word in so much that they, uh, they were
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: totally going to get an R not for any of
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: the violence or the gore, you know, cause it's mostly goo,
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: but yeah, it's like, that wasn't the problem with the,
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: the MPAA. They were gonna, yeah, they had issues with
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: the fact that, you know, all the language that they
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: threw around. So if you look, if you watch it now,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: with the exception of the one F you that, you know,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: that Kevin Bacon throws out at the monster, which is
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: just funny. That's one of the funniest lines. It's mostly
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: his delivery. But yeah, they sort of dance around it.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Like there's so many times they throw in another term.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: But yeah, you can kind of tell a few different
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: places that, oh yeah, they probably went and changed that one.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Or they may have even like dubbed in after the
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: fact on a few of them that I think they
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: kind of. If they cut all those out, it cut
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: it back to PG-13, which is why that's what I
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: checked on there. I was like, they did get it
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: cut back. So, yeah, it was released as PG-13. Probably
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: because that's the only time it drops the F-bomb. It's
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: way more effective. You're not numb to it. And you
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: said that delivery isn't just the shot and everything. Pointing
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: at the camera.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: That's great. It's so funny. And I think there's just
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: so many. There's the dialogue. It's so believable, like the
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: whole thing Walter is just obsessed with giving it. He says,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: grab boys. Walter, forget the damn name. We're going to
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: feel stupid if we don't give it a name.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: We discovered it. We get to name it.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Walter. Look, these are hollow points, but they're not
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Hydroshock hollow points. Excuse me, I thought bullets were bullets.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Hi, guys.
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: What you been doing?
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Well, we ran into that new college student, that Rona.
• 49:02
  Speaker 11: Ronda.
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, she's having some trouble with her, uh, uh, uh, things.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: You know those college kids turn up oil or uranium
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: or something out there?
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Next thing, the feds will be at our door.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: Time to move.
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: Eminent domain.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Down honey down yeah burt well you worry you're gonna
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: have a heart attack before you get a chance to
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: survive world war three we'll see we'll see and michael
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: gross i always think that really mellow dad from Family Ties,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: he's played a survivalist. That was.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: That was like genius casting.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: That was.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: It really... Because that's the... I mean, number one, it's
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: such a 180 from what he'd done for like seven
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: years or more on TV. It's like, yeah, he's not
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: only a boring TV dad, but he's like a left-wing,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: you know, hippie... Right. So, I mean, he's nothing but
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: a hippie on TV for the last seven years, and
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: now you make him not only the opposite direction, but yeah,
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: he's a survivalist, gun-toting, crazy bastard.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: It's, yeah.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: And on top of that, he totally sells it. Like,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: he really turned out to be a good actor. He
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: wasn't just kind of like the dad. You know, he
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: really is a good actor.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: It was more than just stunt casting. He really was.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: The way he delivers certain lines, like he says, where'd
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: you get canna fuse? From my can.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: From my can.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: It's such a great reading. What's in those? Just a
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: few household chemicals in the proper proportions. It just sounds
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: like a guy who just thinks.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: It really is believable.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: You really do buy that.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Broke into the wrong record. That line just made me cry.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I'm in a theater laughing my head off at that line.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: That one is awesome.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: And the guns, it just goes on forever. What's that,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: elephant guns? It's like a guided missile in a barrel. Bam, bam, bam.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Just keep pulling guns up the wall and shooting until
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: they're empty.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: That is funny, the wrong rec room. Because, yeah, of
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: all places, you go into one that the entire wall
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: is coated in guns. Like, that's, yeah, you don't want
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: to walk into somebody's basement and see that unless you're prepared.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Unless you're there to, you know, pick up your new
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Luger or whatever. Yeah, you just walk into that. God
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: knows what you're in store for. So even funnier that
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: a giant worm busts through the wall. Yeah. But yeah,
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: I think his casting is amazing. And oddly, Reba McEntire,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: she hadn't really done anything at that point. And the
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: thing is, to me, she gets worse as she goes on.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Because by the time you're watching her sitcom, it's like,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: it's so hammy and just forced this, you know, down-home-country
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: attitude down your throat where she doesn't really play that
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: in this. It's just pretty straight and, you know, they
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: actually seem like a believable couple almost. But yeah, she
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: wasn't bad.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I think the fact that she doesn't Yeah. Maybe she's
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: like new as that. It actually works there because it
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: just seems like a normal, average, you know, person.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: That was probably it because she didn't know. She's not acting.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: She was just kind of probably being herself more or
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: less at that point. Whereas, By the time they're selling
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: her as this cheesy country music star on TV every week,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: she's really got to ham it up.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: My wife doesn't care for Reba Magner, so the fact
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: she likes Tremors as much is really a testament to
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: how good the movie is, because she doesn't leave the
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: room and get something to drink when she shows up
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: on screen.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: And they don't give her a ton to do. She's
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: just got to fire a gun a lot, which is good. Yeah,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Michael Gross sells the couple there, but he's so good.
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: And if anybody latched onto it, I mean, he did
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: not let go of that role, even when the other
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: actors faded off as the sequels went on.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: And the TV series, he was there every time because
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: it was such a fun role that, you know, I
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: guess he's just like, you know, aside from, hey, this
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: is a paycheck, on top of that, it's just such
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: a fun character that it's funny he stuck with it
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: as long as he did.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: I love this, really, this incredibly out there, nothing, we've
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: never seen anything like this. That's one thing I like
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: about the movie. There's no real explanation in the movie
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: where they came from. I kind of like the fact, like, okay,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to concoct something.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: They just showed up. Let's deal with it. I really,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I actually, that's refreshing to me.
• 53:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Come up with some sort of, I love the fact
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: that in the advancing theories, I vote for Outer Space.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: No way these are local boys. That line cracks me up.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I don't remember if I ever saw him do, Fred Ward,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: excuse me, comedy before that, and he's hilarious.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: He's so good.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: That thing that just, He talks, he's griping about Kevin
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Bacon's girlfriend. They're all the same dead wheat. Ooh, I've
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: broken out that line that just makes my skin crawl.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Just him going, ooh, I've broken out.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: He's so good in that. I mean, again, he's been
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: working for years. He's a good actor anyway. But yeah,
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: watching him deliver some of these lines, it's like in
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: lesser hands, this could go horribly wrong. But he's such
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: a good actor. It's like he brings so much to
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: that character.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: I think, and to me, that is kind of what
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: makes this movie. I think, you know, it's a cheesy
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: B-movie storyline, but if you gave it to, you know,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: bad B-movie actors, it would have gone that way. It
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: would be a straight-to-DVD release now.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: It'd be a sci-fi.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: It really would.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: It'd be a sci-fi movie with bad CG, you know, graboids,
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: which luckily they hadn't gotten to that. There's only a
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: little use of that. This was like the infancy of
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: CG at that point.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I love that. I love, I love mechanical effects. I
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: just love the fact that that was, and I'm so, wow,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: this has got to be really tough to pull off
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: what they're doing and make it look as good as
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: they did.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: And just about, there's like one or two times I
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: think you can tell it's a visual effect, but other
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: than that, it was all like actual practical, like arms
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: for the, you know, the grabbing parts. And then the
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: huge monster is one that they built, you know, they,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: they built this thing to shoot up out of the
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: floor in the scene. And that's, that's awesome. And you
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: don't get a lot of that. Now everything has to
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: be CD.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: So great shot off the side of the water tower,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: just kind of slither around the mud. That's really effective.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: They all really.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Looks like we should get eels. I mean, it really
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: looks like.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: All the weird stuff they did.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Some of that, they like dug trenches in the dirt
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: and we're just like pulling something under there to actually
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: give it that effect that it looks like there's a
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: giant worm coming at you. It's, It's amazing the different
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: versions that they had to do. There's a few of
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: them I think that were actual puppets that they worked
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: out when it's like the little snake type ones. They
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: worked in ones that are hand puppets. So again, it's
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: a mesh of all these different types of special effect
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: that actually work pretty good. To me, it seems pretty fluid.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: You don't really notice the cheesy. I mean, it's supposed
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: to be cheesy. So when you see the monster, sometimes
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: it's okay for it to be a little over the
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: top and silly, but At the same time, it kind
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: of works. It's still kind of frightening in its moments,
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 55:32
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: I just I always love to see. I love the
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: fact like it is predominantly mechanical.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Not CGI. So you can do this. it doesn't necessarily
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: mean it has to, if it's done with care.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Because bad CGI, so what's the point? If you can't
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: make it look good mechanically, you know, if you can't
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: make it look good on the computer. Yeah.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: There's no hope at this point. Yeah, I just like the.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Fact that it just, plus there's this part of me
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: that goes, you know, there's like four or five guys probably,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: you know, working on the mechanical thing, probably two doing this.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I just like the fact
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: that guys are working, and I bet they got better
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: stories than the guy behind it tapping on a keyboard
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: all day.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: They're like, oh, we had to put all this orange
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: goo in here and then it exploded.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: So there's a lot more interesting stories going on when
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: you've got all these guys actually, you know, sitting there
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: working on a set and, you know, sitting on the
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: set for 12 hours a day versus, you know, some
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: guy at a computer all day. So it does sort
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: of lend more towards that, you know, nostalgic era of
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: the movies. Whereas now if you're it's almost like making
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: a video game as opposed to, you know, the way
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: it used to be. So it's yeah, it's kind of cool.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: You brought up the different versions of the story. I
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: do like the fact that they don't ever narrow it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: To me, it did kind of bring back, we were
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: talking about Romero earlier, the Night of the Living Dead scenario,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: where you never really know why. They throw out that
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: comet idea, kind of like these. They throw out a
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: couple ideas of what happened, but you never really find out.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: It's just like, at that point, your characters are thrown
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: into the storyline, and They just kind of go along
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: for the ride, but you don't really know. And you
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: wouldn't really in the real world. You'd never, you know,
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: especially in the short span of time this story takes place,
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: you wouldn't know where they came from or why.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: It's more horrific that way.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Just because it's like, okay, I have no idea. I
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: know where this came from. If I knew where they
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: came from, I'd have an idea. I don't have a what.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: You wake up, what happened?
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: How this happened? And I love the fact that after
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: all these years, and she even says in the movie,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: she says... 11 for you know predate the fossil record
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: that we just discovered now.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Now we're exactly it's one of those yeah they throw
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: that out there as maybe they've always been here longer
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: than we have oh but yeah i as far as
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: i think that is the difference though getting back to
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: the the casting i think in in lesser hands it
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: really could just be a bad sci-fi movie but kevin
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: bacon and fred ward are That is, I mean, to me,
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: their relationship really is what makes this movie. It sells it.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: It makes it, kind of brings it to a different level.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: And it is one of those, I'm not even sure,
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: it's so well put together, I'm not even sure what
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: to think of it, because I almost, and I remember
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: even the first time I watched it, started thinking like,
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: It almost feels like they inserted the romantic female lead,
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: because if you took that out, they're almost like a couple. Yeah.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: They really do respond. Unless they were like brothers, you
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: kind of get that relationship if you're like family and
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: you've been together forever, but... The way that they, you know,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: if you took that element out, it almost would feel
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: like that because they bicker like they're a couple, you know,
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: they live in a trailer together. I mean, to me,
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: it almost feels like it's such a weird relationship because
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: they're so close and they're so like tight knit. then
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: it almost feels like they were like, oh, we better
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: throw a girl in here because this is going to
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: confuse people. And I'm like, I wouldn't even care because
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: I think there's such a good, just a good, a duo,
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: you know, they really do work as that team that
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: by themselves, it really wouldn't work. They really need that
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: other person there to like finish the other sentence or
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: to finish the joke sometimes that it would not work
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: if one of them was just standing there or even
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: with the other cast members it's like it only works
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: with the dynamic of those two and I think it's
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: what elevates.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: This movie again they're so believable I don't really get
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: any false okay that character wouldn't have said that everything
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: for me and I did like the fact that when
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: they did go for a female they got Finn Carter
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: and I thought what I loved about her she's a
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: science student out here So she's, when you first see her,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: she's not the super hot. She's got the zinc oxide.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: On her nose and the hat.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: She's a mess. And I love that because they didn't
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: get like, okay, some young Morgan Fairchild type.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: Megan Fox as a scientist.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And I think she's great and she's incredibly likable.
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: And she does seem like a real person.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: And that's one I noticed is there's not, you know,
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: this is a very basic story and it's there to
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: be kind of fun and silly. So there's not a
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: whole lot of character development along the way. But if
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: there's anything, it's, you know, the only thing you can
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: really see is this arc of the Kevin Bacon character
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: of like learning to, you know, sort of. look at women,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: you know, for more than just, you know, their, their
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: physical attributes that, I mean, that's the only, you know,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: little touch of like character growth that comes out of this,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: because I mean, it all takes place in like a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: day and a half anyway, so you wouldn't get much,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: but you get this turnaround of him that almost, you know,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: makes him even a better character by the end that,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: you know, he starts to appreciate the fact that, you know, okay,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: she's not a supermodel, but she's actually smart and she's,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: you know, got something new to say. And, you know,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: she's a good person, you know, as opposed to just being,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: you know, a, a mannequin for.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Me that's a nice touch too when he talks about
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: his previous girlfriends he still has her picture flipped down
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: of course this is exactly the blonde bimbo everything fred
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: work yeah okay i met her but i met her
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: i agree with her again it's like totally get the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: things like oh my god this is nothing like.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: And that's yeah and so we all appreciate that yeah
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: get a clue buddy come on I think.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: The Walter character I really enjoy. He just seems like
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: the type of oddball character. And living out in the desert. Yeah.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: And this place is just so, just the fact, it's like,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: who can even imagine, there's one road in and out
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: of a town.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I think one thing I like, it always reminds me
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: of the 50s too, is that 50s movies, all the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: ones that seem to be set in that, it's always
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the desert.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like Tarantula.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: It's like monolith monsters. You're always out. There's a small
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: town in this little place in the middle of nowhere.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: I think they do a good job with that. They
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: really make use of the, you know, the landscape and it,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: it also, I thought was, was different with this is it,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: it sort of brings in that different color palette. I mean,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: you're used to like a lot of horror movies. It's
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: always nighttime and it's dark and right. Almost all of
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: this plot takes place in the day, in the bright sunlight.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: You've got all this earth tones. You've got, you know,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: browns and, you know, all these different colors. So it's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: a very different color palette to look at. And, and,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: you know, cheesy horror movies, you know, you don't always
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: get that. You get a lot of night shoots and
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: a lot of, you know, creepy, gothic looking stuff. This
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: is a, you know, complete opposite of that.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Well, it kind of reminds me like in North by Northwest,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: you've got the plane buzzing Cary Grant. I mean, you
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: always think of horror taking place in tight and close space.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: And here's this out in the open scene All this–
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: and you're still not safe. There's just nowhere to really go.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: That's kind of– And we love that about this too.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: It's just like it shouldn't.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: Be that– Yeah. Well, that's kind of what dooms you
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: in this. It's like if you could get to something,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: you'd be safe. But it's like, okay, there's like 300
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: yards between me and that rock over there. I'm going
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: to get killed between here and there. It's like– yeah
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: it's like you you almost wish it was a little
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: more enclosed so there wasn't you know they've got this
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: vast area that they have to like run through to
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: escape or get some sort of vehicle or yeah so
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: it becomes their you know undoing almost is so much
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: empty wasteland.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Oh the pole vaulting sequence i thought i think one
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: of the things i thought was hilarious in the movie
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: because in movies you know it's always like You know,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: they defeat, there's like a little victory and everybody just,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: I love the fact when they blow up the first Graboid.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, all this meat comes flying
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: out of the sky. They're just like, wow. They never
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: show that in these movies.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: It's such a nice touch. Yeah. This would not be
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: a clean.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 14: No.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Clean win.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Blow up this gross worm thing.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: You're going to get hit with some orange goo.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that is one of those touches that it's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: definitely comedic. It's not just a horror movie. It definitely
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: skates that line. Especially with the characters, they fall into
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: that where the lines and the delivery are almost a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: comedy at times. But then it definitely falls into your
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: normal 50s monster movie kind of scenario. So it does
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: such a good job of sort of going back and
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: forth and playing that both sides. What's interesting about this.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: You really, in the 50s movies, there's usually a scientist
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: or someone scientifically trained. We've got her, but it's not
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: quite the same.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Shit, it's been waiting here all this time? How does
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: it know we're still here? It's got no eyes, right?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Sure as hell can't smell us underground.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: I say it's been listening. Of course.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: It senses seismic vibration. It can hear every move we make,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: especially on this rock.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: It's a perfect conductor.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: That means we're stuck. That pisses me off.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: So everybody is really just going by the seat of
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: their pants. And she's, I mean, she's the closest thing
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: I have. She's the one that figures out the vibration.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: That's really all she knows is, like, you know, the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: seismology end of it. But other than that, you know,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: once you get into the biology, they're like, I don't
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: know what it is. I don't know how it does this.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: You know, it's, yeah.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: It's not my field.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: Just like, I don't know. Back in the scientists and
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: movies where they were just experts in every, you know. Science.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: It's like the professor on Gilligan's Island. There's no branch
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: of science.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: No, it's really outside my line.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: No, geology, biology, chemistry. He knows everything.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Everything. This guy's got them all aced.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: I love the professor.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: He's a good guy.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: I want him with me wherever I'm stuck.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: And a radio.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: I need a radio.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need a radio now. Here's what we have.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: You can turn the radio into anything. Every other episode,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: it became something else. He rewired it into a tanning
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: bed or something like that. He could do anything with
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: that damn radio and coconuts.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, sidetracked.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: But I love Gilligan's Islands. Just the monsters themselves. I
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: was going to see what... Nothing very original. I've never
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: seen anything like it. I was going to say, the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: only thing I guess before that would be Dune. It
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: was kind of... Yeah, okay, that's right. And then, well,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Beetlejuice was right. The sandworm idea was... But they're very
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: different looking.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: It's a neat idea. I remember there was an episode
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: of Outer Limits, and I can't remember the name. I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: think Adam West was on that, and it was about
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: these guys landing on Mars. Basically, there was this creature,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: like a dragon-type thing, coming out from underneath the sand.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: That's awesome. Which is really cool.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: I said, wow, that's unusual.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: It's such a scary idea.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Remember Blood Beach? I saw that in a theater. John
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Saxon was in it.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: That was before, yeah. That's like mid-80s or so. Yeah,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: that was before. I was trying to think of where
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: all it was kind of drawing this idea from because
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: I was trying to think if there was anything 50s-wise
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: that was similar to this. But they were all just
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: giant bugs, usually. It was all tarantulas and ants and mantises.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: Not really anything underground that I could think of.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Scorpions.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, scorpions. But yeah, definitely Dune. There's got to be
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: a little reference to that and Beetlejuice.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: I forgot completely about it. There was a movie that...
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: It's weird. It showed up on TV and they complained
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: about it. I was caught up as well. When I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: saw it on TV, they showed these storyboards and explained
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: it because I was lost. If I hadn't read the books,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: it was just like, what? Hold on.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: Go back.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: I wanted to like it because I heard all my
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: friends had read it and loved the book.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: They were telling me at one point they were handing
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: out pamphlets when you got in the theater, like a
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: glossary of all the terms they use and backstory. I'm like, okay,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: this is too complicated to read. There's a point where
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: you overcomplicate your own storyline. That was definitely not really
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: in their best interest to overcomplicate that movie. It's already
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: a lot to deal with. The one I was going
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: to say, if you've seen The Burrowers, that's in the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: last couple of years, actually. J.T. Petty made it. We
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: talked to him. He's a really good guy. Definitely, his
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: is more of a dark. Number one, it's a western.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: It actually is set in the west. And it's sort
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: of the same creatures coming from under the ground, but it's,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: it's a way more serious version, but it's pretty creepy. It's,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: it's one to look for, but it was the only
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: other thing I could think of that since then has
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: sort of tied into the same idea. And that was
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: what he was saying is, you know, it's, it was
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: such a scary idea that his was more on the
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: planes with like the grass waving back and forth and
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: you just couldn't see. And all of a sudden it
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: would attack. And yeah, it is a, it's a scary
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: idea that, you know, it's bad enough, you know, cause
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: there's very much a, a jaws. Cause even as they
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: discussed it, this was, they refer to as land jaws basically.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: And it's very much drawing from the jaws idea as
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: far as the, set up your plot and have this
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: predatory creature just at any given moment, take people out.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: But I guess at least then when you're on the water,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: you know, you know, you're on the water, you know,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: when you're in danger, whereas this it's like at any
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: given moment, the earth underneath you can, you know, crumble
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: and you could be gone. Like even when they're indoors,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: they're not safe. It's like, it tears up that whole
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: little shop that they're in.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: That's the fact that you start to figure it out.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: It gets smarter. So it wasn't just a matter of like,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: you could have ended right there. We stay in the rock.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: We're fine. Or, I just love the fact, wait a minute, oh,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: new wrinkle, new wrinkle. So, I mean, that's one thing
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: I think really advances the plot along because it would
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: have just been, as long as no one got silent,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: we're okay.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're learning.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Too easy, too many provisions. It would have just been,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: just the whole fact, and they had to build that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: whole roof and the whole thing.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: That was actually impressive.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: That was very impressive.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: And I've been watching the making of stuff. It's actually
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: made like that. It could collapse, and then they would
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: go back and put it together for suit two, and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: they would do another scene on it. And I'm just like,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: that's impressive that they built this thing. it must've just
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: been rubber because the whole thing like folds in half
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: almost by the end. And the fact that they could
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: turn around and okay, take two.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: I love the fact too, they, uh, they chew the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: tires off.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: The four by four.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: So now the vehicles won't work.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: And even like towards the end where they start realizing, uh,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: okay the structure itself like he's like touching the structure
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: and then realizes okay if we take out the foundation
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: they're gonna fall down to us right they're so like
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: smart which you can't it doesn't even make sense really
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: that this this worm-like creature is so damn intelligent that
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: it starts figuring out like how to destroy the foundation
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: of a building and tumble it down it's like it's
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: kind of frightening at that point that this worm's out
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: thinking you got it.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: I just felt bad that I never liked the sequels
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: that much.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: The second one, I don't think I went past the
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: second one, really.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: I saw that when I saw part of the third. Man,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: I'm just not getting into this like I thought I would.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: The original I just thought was too perfect, the cast.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: It's been years since I've seen even the second one,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: but I remember the first half just seemed like a rehash.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: It just felt like they were doing the same thing
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: as the first movie. I almost liked that when they
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: brought those new creatures out, the new little spawn of
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: whatever they were that walked around. that was at least
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: something different. I liked the idea that, okay, well now
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: we're at least watching a different movie. It's, it's doing
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: something different than the first one where the, the first
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: half just felt like they were sort of, okay, here's
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: a catch up of what happened in the last movie.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: Let's do, you know, a half hour of them doing
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: the same blowing up worms like they did before.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: And I did like the whole thing with like Fred
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Ward really didn't get anything out of his story. You
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Just, it's like, you think he'd
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: be set for like, no, no, no, just such a
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: hard luck guy. Even after this, he was there and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: he still can't really turn it into anything great for himself.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: That's what's funny is it also takes this turn, I
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: guess it's sort of clever just from the screenwriting aspect,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: is it's got that same, and a lot of movies
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: do this, this like, can't get out of town storyline
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: yeah there's a lot of movies especially at that era
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: that started doing that you had like a red rock
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: west that did that and uh like u-turn and you've
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: got this character that all they want to do is
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: get out of this town all they need to do
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: you know there's like trapped in paradise on the comedy
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: side or like quick change where it's like all we
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: have to do is get out of town that's all
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: we have to do and like every step of the
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: way something comes along and that's what it sort of
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: felt like in the beginning like the first half hour
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: of this is like all right we're loading up the
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: truck we're out of here and then like there's this
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: dead guy and then there's the roadblock by rocks and
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: like we got to go back and tell this so
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: it's like every step of the way they just get
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: stopped or right i.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Keep saying ed fred ward i agree line goes is
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: there some higher force at work here i mean he's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: just so exasperated you totally buy this guy he's just
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: like well i've driven out he's like you got this
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: time anytime i want to he falls out where they're
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: trying to get to he's just.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: Like is it asking too much all we want to
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: do so yeah it's i just like that aspect but
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: it is just that one day too late if we
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: would have left yesterday it would all been fine so
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: that's yeah that was kind of a fun little uh
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: just i guess yeah screenwriting wise that they put that
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: in the first half and it disappears by the time
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: the monsters show up but.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: The fact that you know these guys are handyman so
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: you just got to take whatever you can get so
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: they got the worst You know, it's like putting in,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: you know, offering to put in a kiln or something.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: They're having to pump the guy's sewer. I mean, just
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: the most indignant, you know, just these indignities that they
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: have to survive just to, I just love the way
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: they're sitting out in the chairs and there's beers and
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: an old toilet bowl cocktail.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: And I think, again, what almost sells it with these
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: two characters is, you know, a lot of, as we said,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: a lot of these movies have like the genius characters
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: that explain everything. These guys are kind of dimwitted. they're
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: not the smartest bulbs in the string. And, uh, that's
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: kind of what makes them fun. It's like, they really
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: do feel like real characters. Cause there's a lot of
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: people you run into. They're not all that smart, but they've, they're,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: you know, they've got a whole life here and, you know,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: maybe he lives in a trailer and maybe they're just,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: you know, putting up a barbed wire fence for their job. But,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: you know, These are real characters, and I think it
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: really does sort of take time to get to know them,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: even though, you know, they're kind of goofy.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Then they gripe about how it was, again, not having
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: a plan is the reason we're stuck. What kind of
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: plan do you have, really?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: Their plan to, yeah. And what exactly is going on
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: in this Bixby?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: This thriving metropolis of Bixby. Like, I'm not sure what
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: you're going to get to when you get there, but
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: good luck to you guys.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Hey, what do you think of our Bixby? I mean,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: everybody's just probably... basically I think it's a neat touch
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: and I just it's a little thing but it's I
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: really like is the fact that they make the monsters
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: smell they stink and there's just these little references to
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: it it's like every time they get in there yeah
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: he says sulfur geyser they smell like that and i
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: think about he says oh it's not good because it's
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: dead the live ones smell worse than the dead ones
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: i just love a little touch like that you never
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: think what they smell like yeah just that just to
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: make it even more disgusting let's make them stink too.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: Well you think yeah i mean most animals are kind
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: of gross anyway really then you magnify it by like
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: you know the size of that and the fact that
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: it's dripping orange goo half the time it's like it's
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: probably gonna smell pretty gross actually The other thing I
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: thought was kind of interesting with this, the director, Ron Underwood,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: this was his first feature, but then do you know
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: much about him? No, I don't. Because I didn't at
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: the time, and then I looked him up, because to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: me it's such a love letter to old sci-fi movies
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: and horror movies.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I'd want to see more by a guy who did
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: this movie.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not a genre director at all. It feels
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: like guys who would be into that, that would be
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: their thing, and they would just do a lot of
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: cheesy B-movies or stuff like that. No, I mean, he
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: followed this up with City Slickers, which is a good comedy.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Wow, good movie, but I would never guess.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: Not the same guy in my mind, yeah.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Usually if they don't have a feel for the genre,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: so often the movies are just like they just missed being,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: they just missed the mark.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: It feels really forced, where this feels like it's just
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: telling the story. It doesn't feel like it's really like...
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: specifically ripping off any other movies, which somebody who doesn't,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: you know, have an appreciation for the old genre movies,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: you know, it's harder to do that. But yeah, for
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: somebody who's not, cause then it's looking through the rest
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: of his stuff. Now he does like tons of TV.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's still working. He's doing like heroes and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: castle and like some of the weirdest, like Reaper episodes,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: which again, comedy, I understand. But the fact that he
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: did this movie seems weird, but yeah, followed it up
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: with city slickers and then did, um, heart and souls
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: which was that cheesy like um that's his name with
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: uh iron man um oh uh um robert downey or
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: yeah robert downey jr it's like it's a comedy about
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: like dead people like ghosts that come back and like
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: jump into your body kind of comedy with robert downey
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: jr it was it was not great even at the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: time i remember being kind of let down.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Shepherded and is it Which one? Civil Shepard.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: Was that the one? No, that's a different one. It's
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: a different dead person jumping into your body.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: There's a whole little genre there.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a huge.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: I've seen.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: More dead people jumping into live person movies than.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 8: I thought I had.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: That was you again, maybe?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Or something. Yeah, I remember that now. That's what made
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: me think of that. But I thought, no, I think
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: that was before.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: That's a different one, too.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: But by the time I saw Tremors, it was just
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: a nice little gift. I wasn't expecting... I hate to
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: say it, but I wasn't expecting it would probably just be...
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: There'll be one or two good scenes. You'll rent it
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: and fast forward to it and show your friends this
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: one good bit. And it's become one of my favorites.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: It's really, it really, I just love it. A good,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: pleasant surprise. It's like when I went and saw, I
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: hadn't seen, for some reason, I never got around to
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: seeing the first two Evil Dead movies. And then I
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: just think the stores I went to didn't rent it.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: It's one of these things I'll get to it eventually.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: And I saw Evil Dead. I remember I was the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: only guy in the theater. I saw it on a matinee.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: And it was so, I mean, I love the fact,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: everything you need to know is at the very beginning.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: You're set up. And I remember laughing my head off,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: and the only guy in the theater, it was the
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: strangest feeling, laughing at a movie, when you're the only
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: guy in the theater. I'm surprised he didn't just go,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: you know, we only got one, we're not running it.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: But they ran it, and I said, another great, I just,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: every once in a while you stumble across great, FX
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: was a movie like that. I knew nothing about it.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: I really liked that one. Thank you. And again, just
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: finding guys that are just sort of on the cusp of,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: you know, they've been working, Brian Brown worked for years,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: But like, that was the first thing I really remember
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: seeing him in. And then after that got a lot
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: of bigger projects and most of which weren't good. And
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: so you kind of catch them right at that point.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: That kind of the same thing, Kevin Bacon. I mean,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: he's the name above the title, but he still wasn't like,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: you know, coming off a footloose. That was his big,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: you know, that was his big role really. So it's like,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: this was just at the point where he was, you know,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: cause then later he's doing stuff. It's pretty high profile
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: and big budget movies, but again, not all of them
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: are great as time goes on. So yeah. This is
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: kind of catching them right at the right moment. Also
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: with the worst hairstyle possibly of his career. That hair
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: is bad. That's, yeah, worst hairstyle, and that's taking Ren
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: McCormick into the.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: His, yeah, his stringy long hair is really... Which, again,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: ties to these, you know, down-on-their-luck characters.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 11: Exactly, yeah.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: Because he just looks like a mess in this movie,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: which works so well with the character. But, yeah, it's... Some.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Scrawny screw-ups at the end of the bar and shoots
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: his mouth off. He's really believable.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: He really kind of is. He does seem like he'd be,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: you know, pulling a beer out of a toilet. Sitting
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: in a lawn chair somewhere in front of his trailer.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: He really sells it.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: So, again, I don't know if you would get a
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: bigger name actor to do that. I mean, he was
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: at that point in his career where he didn't mind
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: doing this kind of silly role where, you know, once
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: you're a big A-list actor, sometimes you don't want to
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: look this silly or you don't want to do somebody
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: that's kind of a dimwit.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: This has been right on the cusp. especially after Footloose
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: is surprising yeah that was an interesting choice where Fred
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Ward is just kind of a journeyman kind.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: Of he's always yeah he's always sort of turned in
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: these kind of roles like he's never the main star
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: but he's always impressive.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Closest came probably was in Miami Blues I thought he
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: was kind of he's like one of the main yeah
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: the other I really liked him I thought he was
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: great in that movie I loved him in Southern Comfort.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: Isn't he in The Player? Isn't he like the studio executive?
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: He's so good at that.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Great opening shot where he's talking about this great tracking shot.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're doing the.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love... The guy brings up something like that,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: touches you, you're like, I didn't see that.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, I love that movie anyway. I think that's
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: one of Altman's best and underappreciated. But yeah, Fred Ward
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: is so good in that one. And that was right
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: around the same time. I mean, he just turns in
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: such good performance.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: It's unusual for an Altman movie. I'm seeing the overlapping dialogue.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking like things like, you know, I'm thinking like
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Nashville and things like that. Yeah, I said, I really, yeah,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: the player was, well, not a happy ending, but a
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: real one. Yeah, it's just kind of a sharp.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: You know storyline it's it's it's smarter than a lot
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: of and it's it's one of those i'm going back
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: and sort of revisiting some of his older stuff and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: he's very hit myth he's some of his stuff is
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: so different than the others so yeah he is he
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: is an interesting director but.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Buck henry pitching the graduate too i love that and
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: i says i just know somebody somewhere has tried this
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: it's somebody tried to pitch.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: Well i mean they're doing it now last week we
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: talked about uh they're they're trying to do top gun
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: 2 Really? 25 years later, really? You're going to do
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: a sequel? Really? I'm just like, so you know that
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: stuff's going on because it really, they're getting made. I mean,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: Wall Street 2. I mean, that was almost 25 years
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: later and they did it. I mean, just like, who's
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: greenlighting these projects? Who's sitting in the desk there?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: I see the Star Chamber 2 and then Wall Street 2.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, who's sitting behind the desk going, you know,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: this is going to fly?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: I don't see it happening, but that's just me.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, but it's funny you brought up Evil Dead. I
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: thought that was one of the few things, in giving
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: this director credit, even though he goes on, I mean,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: he makes some bad choices. I mean, he brought us
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: Mighty Joe Young, the remake, which to me doesn't even,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, again, that could be a genre movie, but
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: what little I remember of it is more like a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: romantic comedy or something. It plays very differently than the
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: old Mighty Joe Young, obviously.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. The only reason I think, the
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: only thing I want to see, if somebody could just
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: snip this scene, I want to see Ray Harryhausen, who's the...
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: I think he has a cameo in it.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: Probably, yeah.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: A couple on their anniversary, and the woman, I can't
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: think of anyone who claimed to be married to Howard Hughes,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: I think. She was in the original.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said that one I'd love to see.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: See, I love when they put those touches in, but
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: sometimes they're in movies that don't deserve it, almost.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: I've got to slog through a lot of stuff. I
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: didn't care for the King Kong remake all that much.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: It's too long.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: But I had my wife with me. I probably would
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: have just left, but then... Uh, we paid for two
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: tickets and she went, okay. So, and plus at the end,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for Bob Burns at a cameo. Yeah. You know,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: if I'd been by myself and he'd been the first
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: 10 minutes, I'd be gone. I walked out. I've still
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: not seen the ending of the American Godzilla. Oh, God.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: It's a train wreck. I said enough.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: I said enough out loud and I walked out. I mean,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: people are just like, what's wrong with you? It's just
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: a movie. No, no, this is a big iguana. This
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: isn't a Godzilla movie.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: It's not Godzilla. And by the end, well, you missed
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: out because by the end it becomes Jurassic Park.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Well, when I saw it.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: It focuses with the little creatures.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I saw it, it was at the scene
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: in Madison Square Garden.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: And Matthew Broderick.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: Broderick, yeah.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Elevator door opens he sees him eating the popcorn he
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: goes wrong floor and i said that's it enough and
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: i got my left i was so i mean physically
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: i just angry because i just i mean john renault's
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: in this too and i like him so why is
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: this such.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah crap because i mean the main character the title
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: character disappears for like the last half of the movie
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: and you're watching the little babies which are basically velociraptors
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: run around and i'm like that's all we just saw
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: this a couple years ago it was called jurassic park
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: speaking of which did you notice the little girl in
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: this is the little girl from Jurassic Park. As I'm
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: watching it, I'm like, she looks familiar. I'm like, so, yeah,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: like three years later, this one she's running away from Tremors,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: and three years later she's running away from Velociraptors.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that was the same little girl.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: It's the same little girl, yeah.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Pogo stick. Another neat little touch, the fact that pogo stick,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: anything you think, anything that can make vibrations, pogo.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: Let's bounce up and down on a pogo stick.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Nice touch.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: Let's doom this child. Go jump up and down on
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: a pogo stick.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: The doofus who gets on the tractor tire in a jar,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: this will kick me off.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: No, you have to get up high.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: How about the big hole in the middle, genius?
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: I would think, I wouldn't even think like, well, maybe, no, no,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: as high as I can get, as solid as I
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: can get.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: On top of the car is not good enough, really.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: Let's go further. But, yeah, as far as back to
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: the director, I mean, aside from the fact that he
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: did Mighty Joe Young followed by The Adventures of Pluto Nash.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, ouch.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: He did that?
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, ouch. So, I mean, I lose more respect
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: for him the more I look at his filmography here. But,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: you know, this one I was surprised, you know, there
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: are so many different styles that he sort of weaves
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: in because you've got, like, the very Jaws moments of
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: it where it really is like the– the sand jumping
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: up underneath them and doing sort of that line in
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: the sand there as you see it running towards them.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: That feels like Jaws. Or the one that really felt
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: like it is when the jackhammer gets stuck in it
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: and you just see the jackhammer kind of moving around.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: That kind of felt like the barrels moving in the
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: water where you know where it is, but you can't
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: even see the creature. I was like, that kind of
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: touches similar to that. But then you also get the
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: shots that are almost that fast-moving POV where it's almost
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: like Evil Dead. It really does kind of have that...
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: fast paced camera jumping around, you.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Know, Nestor gets eaten. Then the camera goes up to
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: the kid.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: I can't think of his name.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: Melvin.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: That's a great move.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: It's yeah. There's, there's some really clever camera work and
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: like different kinds of sick. Cause some of the stuff's
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: very normal and it feels like, you know, your standard,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: you know, comedy like he does later that are pretty static,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: but then there's other shots that are really inventive. And
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: I kind of give him credit for those.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Again the ground shots i like the thing with the
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: yeah like the dirt's just like moving really quick which
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: that's a neat little.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: It's funny that's that's something that like now like david
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: fincher is sort of like cornered the market on that
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: little move of doing that like diving into things and
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: watching it from their point of view but yeah this
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: was like you know before he was even doing that
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff it does this like diving underground following
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: them shots that are pretty clever and and again the
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: graphics on it look pretty good and whatever version they
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: did on that one but yeah it looks good But yeah,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think all in all, it is
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: one of those that, yeah, it probably will kind of
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: catch you off guard. It is something you would expect
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: to be, you know.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Kevin Bacon.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't expect Kevin to do it.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that too. Just, you know.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: Because again, he's hit and miss for me. It's like he's... Flatliners,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: I can't remember. Yeah, which I actually like Flatliners.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just, it's kind of like, you just don't
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: think of him as a genre guy really at all.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: No, but then you look at, yeah, I mean, he
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: comes back to it, even like Hollow Man, which isn't good,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: but is a very... wanted to be a very genre
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: kind of movie. And so he comes back to that
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: stuff every once in a while, but our stir of echoes, I,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: I don't think I've seen that, but that's, that's supposed
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: to be a really good one.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: So he comes back to that stuff, but yeah, to me, he,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: he got so well known for like his like comedy,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: romantic comedy stuff for a while there, unfortunately. And then
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: like dramas for a while, he's, he's kind of all
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: over the map. So it's, it's sort of weird to
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: see him thrown into this. And I guess at that
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: point in his career, it was, it was still an
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: option to, uh.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: I liked the big picture. I like movies about the
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: movie business. I think we reduced the telemarketing. How many
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: times have you said to yourself, gee, my phone stinks?
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: what are you selling to these people? I just, it
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: just sounds like the type of thing I'd get where
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I just off the door in a hurry.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 7: What?
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: Hello. And I'd be that pause. I go, Oh no.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: And then that, that, that's why it'd be great. Hello.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for someone. Yes.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: That's a clever written movie. Yeah. And another one that
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: was totally under the radar, hardly anybody's, you know, other
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: than when it showed up on cable, but like nobody
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: saw that movie out.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: As it went on. It's yeah.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: He's, he's been in some good stuff, but yeah, sometimes
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: he just shows up in, you know, big budget stuff and,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: So it's kind of cool to see him in this,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: which was a pretty mild, you know, a pretty mediocre budget,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: I guess, for the grand scale of what they're trying
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: to do. It seems like this has done enough. A
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: pretty small budget, but yet you don't really see it.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: No, I think it's unforgivable when you have gigantic budgets.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: You know, Lake Placid is a movie that some people like, hate.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: I love it. I think it's a fun movie. Another
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: movie I think has great dialogue. And that's a movie.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: There's some CGI. It's in the credits. But I look
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: at that, and overall it looks like models are big mock-ups.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't look... I don't get that... Oh,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: not this. Yeah, it was a movie I watched. It
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: was one of the mummy movies, the newer ones. Oh,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: all of them. The one with the rock or the dwing.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: That's the second one.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I says, this is a video game. And
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: then they had the scarabs, these little blue. I said, look,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: every time you flip them through, I make this scribbling thing.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: It's like you drew over stuff with blue felt pen. Yeah.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: It's terrible. And I can't believe the budget that went
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: into this. Like, if you can't do it.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: Don't and that was like right when they like totally
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: came on board with the idea of doing like computer
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: animated stuff because that was one of the first ones
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: that had a ton of stuff like you watch every
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: time one of the plagues comes along it's all this
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: new at the time showy cgi stuff that they were
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: doing and like even then i remember just going i
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: know this is supposed to be cutting edge but i
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: don't really like the way this looks and so yeah
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: those have always just been a letdown for me because
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: they did They're so wannabe Indiana Jones that it upsets
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: me because, you know, Brendan Fraser cannot carry that. He's bad.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: casting anyway and then on top of that I hate
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: that it's also tying in the mummy because the mummy
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: is such a cool story and it's like well now
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: nobody's going to do another mummy movie for 10-15 years
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: because they've already got this huge run of bad mummies
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: yeah it's like I would kind of like to see
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: a good mummy movie again and you know now that
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: they've done this mess it's like we're not going to
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: get one for a while so Yeah, that one sort
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: of led down.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: That's the big first show, just the worst CGI effects,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: the helicopter and escape from L.A. That's another movie. I
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: only got to the end because I was waiting for
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Pam Greer to show up. I love Pam Greer. Otherwise,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: because I love Escape from New York.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Dark little.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: What a weird turn from Escape to New York to
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: Escape from L.A.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: L.A.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: Has got its moments that are fun, but it's such
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: a mess. It's just structurally it's such a mess. It's
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: weird that Stephen Carpenter doing it because it doesn't feel
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: like one of his movies at all.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: It's like somebody just took a handoff. I don't want
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: to do a handoff to some other director.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: Because he's one that is so underappreciated over the years.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, you look back at some of the most
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: classic movies, especially horror movies, and they're all like Carpenter movies.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: They Live is one that I think is.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: They Live?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: They Live is one. Another one that just surprised me.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, what a great little movie.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: Totally. Just in the last 10 years or so, people
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: really have started to appreciate it. But at the time,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: nobody cared about it.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Well, he even said, I mean, he said it was
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: a victim of really... Terrible timing. Not that he was
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: making excuses, but, you know, this is basically, the movie's
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: kind of like Republicans from Outer Space. And he said,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: and it came out, I think, he says, on the
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: eve of Reagan's second inaugural, the worst time in the
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: world to bring this out. He said, just, I was
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: so against the mood of the country at the time.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: But the more you watch it. And ever since, I've
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: had this huge crush on Meg Foster, who I think
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: looks so great in this movie. It totally looks like
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: an alien conspiracy. I love you, but I don't trust you.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: And Roddy Piper, I would never think, very likable. And
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: that fight scene where I'm watching, I go, okay, it
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: goes from funny to dumb. And you just have to
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: laugh again because.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: It's so attractive. It's so over the top.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Somebody told me it was based on a.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: Like a John, there's a John Wayne movie with an
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: incredibly long fight.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: That's apparently one I haven't seen, so.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: I think so, but even then, it's just, at some point,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: it starts to feel like WWF. Once you realize you're
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: looking at a WWF fighter, I was like, okay, is
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: he going to get up on the turnbuckle now?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is he going to take the folding chair and
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: bash it? I'm waiting for that.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: It really felt like that after, you know, after 10
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: minutes of this fight. You're just like, really?
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: This manager shows up and sneaks up on the bad guy.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: Why is Lou Albano in the corner over there?
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: That's a fun movie for a cast. It had Peter
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: Jason in it, and it had Cy. It's a Cy
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Richard who's in Repo Man.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: He's got a part in it. Buck Flower's always fun
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: whenever he shows up and stuff. I thought it was
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: kind of an oddball thing where those little, what they
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: call those little devices they use in Ghostbusters show up
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: in there. Nice. The guys in the camo have them.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: That's it. I mean, it's weird. Looking back, there's... There's
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: a lot of them that just sort of flip under.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: And this is kind of one of those really tremors.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: It is one of those that I don't think it
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: was a huge box office success.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 10: No.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: But it's one that sort of found.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: Probably okay relative to its budget.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: Probably found its.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: Found its home on VHS.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: I think so too, yeah.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: When videotape really had its own market at that point.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: And I think that's probably where everybody kind of caught it.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: And then cable over the years. I mean, which is
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: why they ended up being able to do all these sequels.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, it eventually got this following. But yeah, I
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: think initially it was one of those that. probably mainstream
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: people were just like what is this underground.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: Worms i've been on with every one of my friends
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: you've got to see this i mean yeah now it's
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: i mean now i think the word would have got
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: out but back then man i just remembered i called
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: everybody i knew that would possibly be into this i
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: just want everybody to see it i stumbled across this
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: i think you're gonna like it it's yeah john agar
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: could have been in this movie just felt so much
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: like the desert and monsters you have mara corday you
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: name all these i just can see the whole you
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: know the universal.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: Stock definitely yeah it's it feels like that it is
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: is sort of the fun you know end of it
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: that you got from like you know your giant monster
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: movies from the 50s they it kind of feels like
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: that so it's yeah it's kind of cool to go
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: back and revisit this because it is one it's funny
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: i hadn't watched it in years and then just sort
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: of caught part of it on cable like a week
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: or so ago and It was like, yeah, that is
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: a good idea. Let's go back and watch Tremors.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: It was just on the other day, and I just, man,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: this is one of those movies I would like. When
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: I first got on VHS, I didn't have as many movies.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: I would put it on, and it just, it's a
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: movie I can, it's kind of like Ed Wood. I
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: can put it on the background and just listen to
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: the dialogue. The dialogue is so good. If I can't
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: physically face the... I'll turn around for the stuff I
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: have to see. But just physically, there's certain movies that
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: dialogue is just fun to listen to. And this is
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: one of them for me.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: It is. It's just their delivery on it, it's all.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: It's so funny. And again, I think because it's those characters,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: and they do feel real, and it is just those.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: You wonder why you can't see. We're talking, like you said,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: a modestly budgeted movie. You really wonder why there isn't
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: more of that. Great dialogue. The movie isn't 100% successful,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: but people talk like human beings. They're very believable. And
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: I just don't understand why there isn't more of that.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: It seemed to me to be not that difficult.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of it, especially on the bigger...
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: You probably get better stuff on the independent stuff, where
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: they put a lot of work into the screenplay. But
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of now, what it seems like,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: I think the problem probably is the ridiculous number of
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: people that are brought in, where you've got a script...
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: And then it gets handed off and rewritten to, you know,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: so you've got seven to 12 writers now involved in this.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: So it's like, how can you have like one, you know,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 4: cohesive character when, you know, seven to 12 people are
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: writing what's coming out of their mouth. So somewhere along
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: the way, they're just like, uh, here, say this. Yeah.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: I think it, again, it makes the characters dumber probably,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: or at least not a uniform feeling out of them. So,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: cause there are some times where you're like, where did
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: this scene come from? Like, it feels like it's from
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: a different movie. And sometimes it's, well, probably writer number
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: six came in and he put this work in.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it looks good. We can show this.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: We can do this. Then at lunchtime they fired him.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, fine.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: Where can we work that in? So yeah, I think
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: that's probably where most big budget stuff suffers now is
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: the ridiculous amount of hands that are in the pot here.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: And You've got all these writers coming in and all
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: these producers adding their two cents as to what it
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: needs and what's really going to make it a success.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Here's what we need. Go get it. Go fetch. Leave
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: the adults alone. We'll put the movies together.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: That's kind of why.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think you saw that much interference years ago. Yeah,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: If you're making a piece of.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: I hate to say piece of crap. Something that's just...
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: Everything's stacked against you. I think a guy who never got... Richard...
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: Is it Kuna? How do they pronounce it? It's just
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: a lot. Frankenstein's daughter. This guy got handed more stuff.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: It was just like, all right... Uh, let's do it.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: And I just think he was a guy that did
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: the best with what he had. I understand, you know,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: doing that.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: And again, but I just, when you're.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: Just, how do you even expect this to gel? I
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: was just, it's such a dog's breakfast of an idea
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: and a mix. I get it when it's. Okay, I
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: don't have much money. The actors I got, like we
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: were talking about Ed Wood, this is what I've got
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: to work with. You have all this at your disposable,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: and you turn out, I mean, forgettable crap, not even
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: monumentally awful crap. I mean, I didn't like Waterworld, but
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: I could laugh at the fact that just the whole
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: science behind it. Wait a minute, let me get this straight.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: It took us millions of years to evolve this, and 400,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: this guy evolves years. This guy evolves gills.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 9: Gills, sure.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: Really, I'm buying all of this. All the guys to
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: start doing all these post-apocalyptic sci-fi things. Kevin Costner. I
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: gave you credit for trying to stretch, but what is
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: this in the post? What are you doing? Get out
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: of my sandbox, as I felt like. You're a mess up.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: There's so many of these, the big filmmakers and the stars,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: you know, they seem to think the genre is broken
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: and they need to fix it. No, it's not really broken.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: I understand if you have a really good idea, you
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: want to try something, but it's like, I'll show you
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: how to make a horror film. No, you won't show
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: me how to make a horror film, apparently.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: Well, at least Waterworld is what it is. It's ridiculous
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: and it's over the top, and you can enjoy it
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: on that level. It's just silly and you can have
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: fun with it on that level. But you look at
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: The Postman, it's like, you're trying to take that genre
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: idea and make Dances with Wolves. That's kind of what
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: it feels like. He's making this deathly serious version of
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: and almost this ridiculous, like over thought out idealized future or,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: or like dystopian future really. And it's like, so yeah, you're,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: you're almost putting too much thought or you're trying to
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: take it up to this, like, you know, almost art
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: film level of this idea. That's probably more of a
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: B movie idea. So yeah, I think he just doesn't,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: he doesn't seem like he's rooted in that kind of
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: stuff that he was doing there. It's like, at least,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: you know, water world feels like he didn't have anything
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: to do with it.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: Really.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: He feels like he showed up on set for that.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: And that's probably why at least it works on a
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: fun level because, you know, the director was just like,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: who cares? We're going to blow stuff up.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: Dennis Hopper on Shaved Head and Eyepatch.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: See, I like him in that one.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying he is, but just overall,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: this should be better.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: More stuff like this. It should be like crazy over
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: the top. Like, you know, remind me of like a
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: modern pirate thing. I want to see more of that.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just, this is just kind of like. Yeah. Oh,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: you're dull.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing. The scenes with him are fantastic.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: funny like just him down in the the bottom of
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 4: that ship and like him like just yelling at his
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: crew members and like that's all hilarious but then you
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: get to those stretches of kevin costner talking i'm just
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: like oh who cares no more of this backstory about
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: the kid's tattoo we don't care just you know we
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: just need dennis hopper with an eye patch that's all
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: we need with an eye patch like mounted on his
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: face that's all we want oh man so yeah you
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: never know what you're gonna come out with with some
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: of these things but oh yeah i guess bring it
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: back around to tremors it is a It is a
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: fun movie, and yeah, it is one of those sort
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: of returning to the old genre movies, but done in
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: a different, you know, sort of 90s style way.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: A really well done update without being campy, or just
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: being a really boring retread.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: And kind of what we'd said with the, you know,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: kind of the Ed Wood thing of making use of
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: what you've got. Like we'd said, it's not a huge budget,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: but I don't think they did it smart where it's
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: like you don't ever really see the limitations. They, you know,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: especially with something like, you know, along with the Jaws idea.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, the reason that movie works so well is
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: you don't see the shark 90% of the time. Right.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: And it's like they realize that. They're like, well, all
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: we have to do is, you know, find a good
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: way to make these scenes work where you see the creature.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: The rest of the time, you know, you've just got
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: to find some way to make the dirt move or
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: make the car, you know, jump up in the air.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 4: It's like they were really smart about the way that
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: they worked around, you know, not showing the creature the
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: whole time.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the build-up to suspense because so many
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: of the movies now, the monster's there, full frontal, boom.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: I see too much of it too quick. Again. I like,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: give me, tease me with it, get me up to the,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I love that. And the fact, you know,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: the guy up on the tower.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: The tower.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: He's starved to death, afraid to come down. at the
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: sheep he just said oh the guy what's going on
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: he's dying to see the monster i'm not you know
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: yeah and i wasn't disappointed either a lot of times
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: you go if i see a monster oh come blood
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: beach was like oh come on this is it yeah
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: you know it just breaks your heart when.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: You finally see the monster and that's just like good
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: storytelling really i mean that is one of those like
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: you want to have a little build up to it
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 4: because yeah if you just throw it in there right
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: off the bat it's like Then you've kind of blown
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: your wad. It's like, where do you go with the
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: rest of your movie? It's like, okay, well, now you've
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: just got to kill another 90 minutes here. So you do.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, this one gives you that. That first 20,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: 30 minutes is just character building. It's just getting to
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: know these two characters as they sit in the truck
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: and they're driving around back and forth and going to
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: these odd jobs and stuff. you get so much character
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: development that then it's like they finally introduce the sci-fi
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: element or the horror element that comes into it. And
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: by then, you really are kind of invested in these characters.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: And that's why this is better.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: I think the first time you see it is now
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: like Kevin Bacon does too, or just like that, and
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: you look and you're like... So you're seeing it when
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: he is, you're both seeing it for the same. And
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: just the reaction is great. That's exactly how I feel
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: right now. That's great. That's really, that's again, like you say,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: that's great storytelling.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: And this was also kind of smart from a monster
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 4: movie point, because they also have like almost two levels
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: to it. Like you've got the first, when we cross
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: over into that and you get that first 20 minutes of, okay,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 4: they're dealing with these little snake creatures and that's the monster.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: And then finally we get to this, Oh no, it's not.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 4: That's the tip of the iceberg. So yeah, it, That's
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: kind of clever, too, because you almost get an entirely
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 4: different monster movie for 20 minutes, and then you get
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 4: into this huge monster that you have to deal with.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: It's ingenious, too, because it's a really unusual monster. The
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: idea of these small things pulling into the big one.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 12: Wow, I can't.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: Like a squid about the only thing I gave him
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: a cut. You know what I mean? I can't think
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: of anything good. This is, Oh, this has been done,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: but Oh, this is new. Thank you for something new.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: It's yeah. It's a clever design that they came up with. And, uh,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: and again, it sort of plays, you say like the
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: tension building, like the whole thing with, just them getting
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 4: on top of stuff. And it really does. It, at
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: some point it almost becomes like a siege movie, only
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: it's a siege on the entire town. Like in most
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: of those, you know, it's like a night of living
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: dead or something where, okay, we're stuck in the bunker
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: and yeah, we've got to fight everybody off from outside
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: of the building. But where this, it's like the, you know,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: the elevation becomes sort of the building where they're, it's
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: kind of cool because they're all scattered on different places,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: but they're all like on top of something. And you've
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: got this entire town kind of under siege by these creatures.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: And that part sort of builds the tension too, that,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: they're safe for a minute, but you know, at any
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: given moment, all they have to do is walk on
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: the ground or try to get from here to there
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: and they get taken out. So it's, yeah, I think it's,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: it's kind of clever the way it builds the tension
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: by not showing the creature and by setting it up where,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: you know, they have to be on these structures and
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: anytime they move on the ground, they're going to get
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: taken out. So it's, I think it's just kind of
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: clever the way it goes about, you know, delivering this
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: fairly unique.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: And does it on a pretty modest budget, which again,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 4: I think that's probably why I think if you throw,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: you know, a hundred million dollars at this movie, it's
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 4: probably going to be unwatchable, but you know, exactly.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: There'd be so much, okay, this has to be bigger.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: We have to have nine of them simultaneously.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: It's like, you know, you.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: Watch the new King Kong. I had to have three T-Rexes.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: One's not enough. And he's swinging and still not trying
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: to extricate himself. He's swinging like he's on a, Like
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: a tire swing trying to bite you when he swings by.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: The thing about Tremors, like you said, not a big budget,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: but I never watched the movie on the theater and thought, boy,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: this looks cheap.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Again, they're just smart in the way they edit
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: around it and they set up the shots. It's like
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: it's all done really. And again, probably because this is
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: this guy's first movie. So, I mean, if you gave
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: it to him. Years later, when he's doing Mighty Joe Young,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: it might have sucked. But I think because he's probably
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: made student films and he's made short films and stuff,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: so he kind of knows how to shoot.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: That's something to prove at that point.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, something to prove and how to shoot on a dime.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: I will deliver you a great movie for this.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's probably why this is probably his
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: best movie on the run. City Slickers are probably the
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: best thing on his resume, and that's probably why. They're
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 4: the first two out of the gate.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Put that together, City Slickers.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: What a.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: It's such a weird, but again, it's a good comedy.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 4: I can see it being well done, but it doesn't
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: seem like the same director. And it certainly doesn't seem
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: like the same director when you look down the line
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: with the rest of his Pluto Nash, for God's sake.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I guess it is one of those things,
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: kind of catching everybody at the right time. You know,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: the stars and the director and the effects people.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: And making it before CG had taken hold.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: I think we, we sort of lucked out with the
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 4: timing on all of these because yeah, I think it
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: delivers a really good movie. So anything else in wrapping up?
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: No, just, uh, just anybody, I'd really encourage you. If
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: you like that, if you don't think you like this genre,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: check it out. Cause it is really, uh, it's not
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: such gory as like, it's a gooey, the monsters get
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: the worst of it. And this, I think, but I mean,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: I just really think it's a, it's, uh, Hard movie
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: not to like.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you like that kind of stuff.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: One of the genre things that other people look at
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: and they wouldn't. They wouldn't, oh, God, how can you
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  Speaker 2: watch this? That's the stuff I get from people who
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: aren't into this stuff. I don't think you get that
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: from this movie at all.
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  Speaker 4: It's got a little more fun appeal, I think, because
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: you get attached to the characters and because it's got
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: the comedic crossover. I think that wins people over some kind.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: Because you look at something like Shaun of the Dead.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: There's people that hate horror movies but will watch that
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  Speaker 4: and think it's awesome because it's so funny. And I
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: think you can win people over that are sort of
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: on the fence about horror movies or sci-fi that, if
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 4: you make a good amount of comedy in there, it
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: sort of like swings it over a little bit. So yeah,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: I think it's one of those that would bring people
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: in and that wouldn't normally be into that kind of
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 4: genre movie.
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  Speaker 2: Check it out.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely watch it again. Cause again, I hadn't seen it
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  Speaker 4: in years and went back and found a lot of
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: things that I'd forgotten were really well done in it.
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  Speaker 4: So yep, definitely go back and watch it if you
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  Speaker 4: have seen it before, but now we'll wrap up tremors.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: We will take a break and round out the show here.
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  Speaker 2: We killed them.
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  Speaker 10: We killed them.
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  Speaker 11: We killed them.
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  Speaker 3: We killed them.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: We've been around since dinosaur age.
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  Speaker 10: According to the movie, that's before the dinosaurs, babe. I
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 10: got Graboids B coming up my nostrils.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: They're hostile. I fucking need a hospital.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, wait.
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  Speaker 10: It's Kevin Bacon. He's got the elephant gun and he's
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 10: gonna save me. Saying ooh-la, Kevin Bacon. Saying ooh-la-la, Kevin Bacon.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 10: Saying ooh-la, Kevin Bacon. Saying ooh-la-la, Kevin Bacon. Come on, ooh-la,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 10: Kevin Bacon. Saying ooh-la-la, Kevin Bacon. Saying ooh-la, Kevin Bacon.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 10: Saying ooh-la-la.
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  Speaker 1: Commission time if leaving please replace your inner car speaker
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  Speaker 1: drive to the aisle in front of you and exit
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  Speaker 1: And now, for those remaining, Lost.
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  Speaker 9: River is lost no more. Yes, friends, you can be
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  Speaker 9: the newly formed Lost River Lake. You'll find swimming, sailing, snorkeling.
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  Speaker 8: There's something strange in the water at Lost River Lake.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 8: Something you can't see. Something you can't feel. Until it's
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 8: too late. started in a Texas pond.
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  Speaker 3: Barbara!
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 9: Barbara, there's something in here!
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  Speaker 7: David!
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  Speaker 2: David!
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  Speaker 4: Well, if it still works, it's.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: The quickest way to know if they're down there or not.
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  Speaker 11: What are you doing?
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: You trained the pond?
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 11: Yes, we found them.
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  Speaker 3: You let them out!
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  Speaker 8: They were unleashed into America's waterways to churn quiet streams
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 8: into rivers of living death. Keep your hand out of
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 8: the water.
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  Speaker 14: What's wrong with the water?
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 11: Dad!
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  Speaker 14: Stay back!
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  Speaker 4: Stay back!
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: Carnivorous fish.
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  Speaker 4: Piranha.
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  Speaker 8: The deadliest man-eaters of all. In schools of hundreds, they
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 8: attack and devour anything that moves with razor-sharp teeth that
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 8: can strip a man to the bone in less than
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 8: a minute.
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  Speaker 2: There'll be no way to contain them.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: They'll be able to swim up every river system.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: In the country.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: There's a school of piranha heading straight downstream toward your resort.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 15: They'll kill us.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: All of us.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: Science fiction.
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  Speaker 12: They're here.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 8: They're hungry.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 4: Piranha.
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• 1:49:02
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• 1:49:08
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• 1:49:11
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  Speaker 9: Woo-woo!
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  Speaker 11: It's part of your problem, you know.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: You haven't seen enough movies.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 4: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: And now, on with the show.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: I did a show in Des Moines and I was
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: trying to do like a Monster Bash type show. That
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: type of subject matter. And I invited the publisher editor
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: of Little Shop of Horrors magazine, that British, came out,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: great guy, took me over to the house, and he says,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: who else can I talk to about this? He dated,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: I can't remember which one it was, one of the
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Hammer women he dated. I'm like, you are my hero.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: You are nailing a hammer, babe. How cool is that?
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: Have you seen that book that just came out? It's
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: Hammer Glamour, I think.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, he showed me that.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: The photo shoots of all of them. It's funny, there's
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 4: so many that are, but then there's one or two
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: that we're like, oh, she's British. features going on didn't
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 4: have an orthodontist then either did.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: She yeah so it's so funny you look back you
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: go like old pictures of bowie like.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: Oh wow yeah there's sometimes they just say it was
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: and i guess that's actually good like now they over
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: gloss everything yeah.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: Everybody looks has this everybody looks.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: Perfect and yeah it's.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: So much in lines you know like they're all.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 4: Stamped mannequins that's what it's come to I.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: Like Kate O'Mara was pretty. Caroline's my favorite. But Ingrid Pitt.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: It was actually about 10 years. She was born in
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: like the 30s. It's like she was actually older than
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: the others. And another one, Veronica Carlson. I gave me
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: a kiss in the cheek. I gave her a copy.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: I said, what a nice. I just, yeah, it's just
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: that made it for me.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting to run into these people later. All right,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 4: we are back, and that is pretty much it. I
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: guess mostly just wanted to say thank you to Don
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: here for joining me today.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: This was the most fun afternoon I spent in the
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: room in quite a while. Trust me.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 4: That's good to know, because, yeah, most people wouldn't take
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: to sitting around a table and talking about movies forever.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: So that's when you know you found your geek crowd.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: There's a hard part.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: You've got to get me to leave now.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 4: We can sit down and watch a movie. I don't care.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: I've got a whole list of stuff I still need
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: to sit down and watch, so I'm always up for that.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 4: But I also just wanted to tell, where do you
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: want to tell people to get a hold of you
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 4: if they want to?
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: DonReese.com. And before you tell me, my website is real
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: bare bones and crappy. A guy built it for me
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: really quick, and I need to find a responsible adultery
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: do it because every time I try to do anything
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: with it, I make it just unreadable. But DonReese.com, my
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: schedule's on there. If you ever want to contact me,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: There's little things. Just email me. You can touch me
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: all the time. Or Don at DonReach.com. Love hearing from people.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: And if I get out your way, I've got a
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: mailing list I'll put you on. I'll let you know.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: Are you on the Facebook much?
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 11: Okay.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: I'm on the Facebook. I've just, wow.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: Some people make fun of it. Some people live on it.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 4: I'm somewhere in the middle, I guess.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: There's so many comedian friends of mine. You know, the
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: guys drop out of the business, they move, and all
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, and you feel bad. You lose touch
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: with people. So that's what I love about it.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: It's kind of useful.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: I've met so many friends of friends. I've met interesting people.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: Or people I've found, just ran into again and went, oh,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: I forgot all about it. He's like, look, I ran
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: across people I forgot existed. So, yeah, it's weird that
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: people that turn up on it now.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: I guess there was a reason we quit talking. Maybe
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: I'll just see that you're there. Maybe we won't be friends. So, yeah,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 4: it's interesting who all, because now the entire world is
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: on there. It's kind of crazy. So, yeah, just thought
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: I'd throw that out there if you want people to
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: look for you on Facebook and add you.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: Please do.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. Um, but yeah, other than that, I guess, um,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: definitely go to your website, check out the dates. Um,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: I would say anytime you're, you're touring pretty extensively most
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: of the time.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm on the road about 200 days a year.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 8: Jesus.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: That's a lot to deal with.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Tell me about it.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: So yeah, definitely, uh, go look for, uh, Don Reese
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: and your sound. And, uh, I'm sure he'll give you some,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: some geeky, uh, comedy in there, maybe some regular stuff too,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: but I'm sure you'll work in some.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have a DVD, uh, hopefully late this year,
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: early next year, or probably process of getting the artwork
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: together and doing the final editing. So if you've got
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: my list or something, I can let you know when
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: that does come out.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll definitely send it.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: We'll get some clips up on a better website.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, send it over. We'll forward it on to people,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: let them know that it's out there and where to
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: get a hold of it, where to find you. So, yeah, definitely.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: But thank you once again for coming and sitting here
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: with us.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 4: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: Geek feed. I like it. It sounds like a cool
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: dinner for people. The 8th Annual Geek Feed.
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  Speaker 12: I know there's something left here This feeling must replace
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 12: fear I can't.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 11: Take Touch of race, drive on down the.
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  Speaker 3: Bend.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 12: You are making me fall And you know I'm crashing.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 11: Down I know there's something left here There's fear I
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 11: can't take it.
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