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George Carneal: Good News, Bad News On PRIDE Agenda For Children · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

• 0:02
  Welcome to Worldview Matters. Discussing controversial issues. Discerning current events. Defending biblical Christianity. No topic. Off limits. And now, here's your host, David Fiorazzo.
• 0:20
  Hello, friends, family in Christ. Thank you so much for tuning in. You know, I wish we didn't have to talk about some of the things we need to communicate to the body of Christ and emphasize to be discerning and to expose some of the evil that's happening and to raise awareness, especially for parents of young children. Or if you're a grandparent and you've got young grandchildren,
• 0:45
  These are things you need to be aware of. And I've got one of my good friends, George Carneal, back with us. He's an author. The book he's got, it's phenomenal. It tells his story, From Queer to Christ. I can call him an expert on this topic and on these issues every June. I don't know why we relented and just gave in and allowed Pride Month to be what it is today. But we're going to talk about it because there's some conflicting issues
• 1:12
  reports, some information that you might be encouraged by, but then we can't misunderstand some of the good news with everything that's going on, because the left will not relent, and Satan does not just wave the white flag. He's going to keep on pushing this. George Carnell, good to see you, brother. Thanks, as always, for your time. Good to see you, David. Thanks for having me back.
• 1:34
  You're most welcome. I love your voice and your perspective on this, because you know how deep this agenda goes. But let's start with a little bit of good news. And it's a shame that we have to do this, but some of the states, this is over at Daily Wire. Another red state is counter-programming Pride Month, focusing on family and calling it June is Fidelity Month.
• 2:01
  Fidelity to family, fidelity to country, fidelity to God. And of course, Sarah Huckabee Sanders is the Republican governor there. I also want to mention Tennessee. The nod to traditional values mirrors what they did in Tennessee with Republican Governor Bill Lee. He declared June Nuclear Family Month. And so there are not enough of these, but there are some happening around the country.
• 2:31
  normal that should be natural that should be healthy and that should be what you know is promoted in our country but we're in a very different place now so george there's there are some good things happening but we also know what's happening behind the scenes behind these headlines right
• 2:47
  Right. And I'll give you some other good news, David, that there are a lot of gays and lesbians who even I, when I was in the lifestyle, we hated Pride Month. We thought it was it just really portrayed the LGBT community in a bad light. And just so you and your listeners will know, there are a lot of fair minded gays and lesbians out there.
• 3:09
  who not only are glad that there is a decline in this, they would like to see it basically on life support and have that plug pulled. It just sheds the community in a bad light. It's really nothing more than a place for narcissists to just really display their fetishes, their filth and their perversions. So a lot of them want the children left alone. So I think we're headed in the right direction. But as you said, the Democrats and those who are pushing this agenda, they will never relent and they will never stop.
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  So let's talk about some of the numbers now. And this is an encouraging headline, but we can't misunderstand that it's like it's as if it's going away. Over at Fox News, they reported on a Gallup poll that finds Americans' support for LGBTQ plus issues is sliding backward now.
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  and that there is a cultural shift, not a massive one, but there is a shift in what we would say is the right direction. I can't say it's sliding backwards, but, for example, the article says public acceptance of gender transition, for one example, has experienced a steep decline over the last five years. Today, just 38% of Americans believe changing one's gender is morally acceptable, 38%.
• 4:27
  57% of the majority view it as morally wrong. But listen to this, George, you alluded to this already. Democrats have not changed their views. 87% of Democrats remain, and this is political, the lines are just, there couldn't be more of a contrast. They have remained steady on their support for transgenderism, gender transition, same-sex, quote-unquote, marriage,
• 4:53
  I put air quotes around that because marriage, God-ordained marriage is between one man and one woman for life. George, your thoughts on some of these numbers, and no surprise that the Democrat Party is really continuing to push this. They're not changing.
• 5:09
  Well, they're never going to change because the Democratic Party is an anti-God party. And this is just an affront to God anyway. It's just rebellion. And they're never going to stop. They don't care about the LGBT community. That's the sad part, David. I can't seem to get my friends to understand they don't care about you. And they don't care about these trans individuals if they actually listened to the stories of the detransitioners.
• 5:34
  and how this has destroyed their lives and complicated their problems, they would be horrified. But nope, we must steamroll straight ahead because it's all about the agenda. It's really heartbreaking. Yes, it is. And by the way, I just saw, I don't remember where I saw this. It was an animated, like a cartoon meme or something, that this guy had a beard and he was wearing women's clothes and a wig and said, I am a woman and I'm going to...
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  And then we have all these people supporting him. Yay, good for you. Way to go. Let's affirm him. Yes, an ally. And then the contrast that with the next one, he's shaved, he's wearing man's clothes, said, no, I've decided to maintain according to my biological identity, and I'm going to be a man. And then they're always shaming him, they're cussing at him, they're saying, you are, you know, they're all...
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  And that's just the way they are. So they're not going to accept that. And that's I find that to be very fascinating. But it's sad for some people who, quote, detransition or who, like you, leave the lifestyle. They were all over supporting you when you were in it. Right. But now you're gone. You're an enemy. Why is that, George? Why do you think that is?
• 6:49
  Well, first of all, they're about as stable as the stock market. You can't figure out what these people are. They are such a joke. I just learned a long time ago, you can't reason with stupid and insanity. And that's just the way it is. And that's what I've tried to get my LGBT friends to see, that you have –
• 7:09
  You having an independent voice is not an option. You go with what the narrative is and they will love you. And once you dare to say, well, something seems off, they will just go after you. You're not allowed to be an individual, which is ironic because they're always pushing how, oh, we've gotta be individuals and we need to support each other and be loving, caring, inclusive, just the usual hypocrisy. But what do you expect from the liberal democratic party?
• 7:36
  So we need to emphasize the fact that God loves everybody, and he doesn't want to leave you the way you are if you're in a sinful lifestyle, what the Bible defines as sin. They can still be saved, and it's our job to continue to hopefully point them to the truth of Jesus without judging or condemning them, but not backing off from the truth of the gospel so that they can hear it, and they might not receive it right then. They might not be in that state where they're receptive to it,
• 8:03
  But at least they'll hear the truth that there is a God who loves them. The God who created them loves them and wants them to wants them to come to him. So, George, one more thing on the political lines. Just five percent of Republicans view changing one's gender as morally acceptable when 60 percent of Democrats do change.
• 8:26
  So there's a big contrast. And one more takeaway. While Americans have become more supportive of gay marriage over the past 20 years, support has dramatically dropped every year in the past several years. And I don't know why that is. Do you have any speculation as to why in recent years support is declining for gay, quote, marriage?
• 8:54
  David, I mean, this is just my personal opinion on what I see on social media and from the gays and lesbians that I not only hear from, but just those with social media platforms who have defected from the Democratic Party. When they were pushing for gay marriage, I think people just were like, OK, whatever. But because they have pushed…
• 9:15
  Everything to the point of once they started going for the children, that was the fine line that they crossed. And I think that's where the backlash is coming from. They are also recognizing, and I hope people will continue to wake up, as you see these politicians and celebrities and corporations who have acquiesced to this community and to the liberal mob. Yeah.
• 9:38
  Hopefully they are starting to see that no matter what you do, it will never be enough. They will never be happy. They always complain and gripe and moan. They are the most miserable people. And until people just say, we've had it, we've had enough. We tried to reason with you. We've tried to work with you. We've tried to bend and let's just come together and try to work together peacefully. And as you have seen, in most cases, they are nothing but bullies.
• 10:04
  who will continue to railroad you and try to destroy anyone who doesn't just to continue to go along with whatever they want. And because they truly do not know as a whole who they are and what they want to be, because one minute they're non-binary, then they're gender fluid.
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  They're so unstable. How is it that rational, reasonable, logical, critical thinking skilled people can reason with this lunacy? So I think people are starting to just wash their hands of it. I've washed my hands of it years ago. I don't longer care. You can't reason with them.
• 10:41
  No, reason is a big word. Reason. You would need some common sense. You would need an openness to debate ideas on both sides and an openness to seeking truth. But we don't find that on the left generally. So we leave this article on the support for LGBTQ issues declining, which is a good thing. We did a podcast last week about corporations, some of them pulling away from their support for this. But...
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  Now, you mentioned children. Why are they going after the kids? We also talked last week about the nation's largest school district, New York City Public Schools. They're embedding LGBTQ plus ideology into their June lesson plans. They're actively pushing students to join marches. They're creating social justice activists. And that's just one school district in the nation.
• 11:34
  So this particular school district, George, spent $300,000 of taxpayer money on LGBTQ pride programs. And over in Maryland, there's a school district—and I could go all across the country. Maryland, there's a school district openly pushing the LGBTQ ideology on children. And I've got a response from USPIE, that's the United States Parents Involved in Education, saying,
• 12:03
  They want June to be Nuclear Family Month as well, but this Maryland school district is pushing pride. And I've got a quote that says, The so-called educators who do this are imposing a false religion on kids. The only way to protect children is to get them out of government schools. I mean, some of the things that this Maryland district is pushing is rainbow ribbon schools and on and on. So, George, your thoughts on this?
• 12:33
  Well, David, I just saw another article that Infowars reported. I don't know where the original article came from, but they are estimating that there are over 600 school districts in California who are allegedly have been accused of secretly transitioning kids behind the parents' backs.
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  I could tell you numerous stories of just things I've heard from what they're doing in the school system. And I think most parents have gotten relaxed thinking, oh, well, with this current administration, he's put a stranglehold on that. But they're not going to stop ever. And I wanted to say, David, if they go to my website, George Carneal, C-A-R-N-E-A-L.com, if they'll scroll down to the very bottom, there's a table of contents. There's a homeschooling link. Yeah.
• 13:20
  And if they'll click on that, they'll see a lot of homeschooling resources to help them. And they shouldn't be afraid of thinking they're going to destroy their children. The children are already being damaged by the communist Marxist ideology that's being pushed in the government school systems. If you can get your children out, I think it's page 20. Yeah, you'll see a lot of resources there to help you get started. And if you don't see anything in your particular state, reach out to these organizations and.
• 13:47
  I'm sure they would be more than happy to guide you and steer you in the right direction to help you find resources to help you take control of your children's education. Thank you. Appreciate that, George. And Alex Newman, our colleague here at Freedom Project and Worldview Matters, he's all over this, a part of public school exit and helping kids and helping the homeschool movement. So there are a lot of good alternatives, great alternatives involved.
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  including, I might as well give this plug, guys, Freedom Project Academy. It's that time of year they're enrolling students for this fall, and they've been doing this for 16 years. Freedom Project Academy has delivered a fully accredited classical online education rooted in Judeo-Christian values for kids in pre-kindergarten through the high school years, and they offer live, anytime, and homeschool courses to fit your child's needs. How do you get there? The website is freedomforschool.com.
• 14:44
  Save 10% when you use the code David. You're welcome. Again, David, save that, save 10% and use that at freedomforschool.com and get started. So we're going to talk about not only schools, but churches that are falling for the pride propaganda. But first, you mentioned something that's very important. A lot of Christians think politically. We get the right...
• 15:12
  President, vice president, senator, congressman, the right politician, the right person elected. And then we can back off a little bit. Then they're going to take care of it. But we've got to stop thinking that way. There are some good things happening. And this is one of the reasons people say, OK, good. We've got them in office. I don't have to work as hard. Over at Harbinger's Daily, there's an article from Decision Magazine, Only Red, White, and Blue. Right.
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  God bless some of the things the Trump administration is doing. They are banning pride flags from embassies for the second consecutive June. This shouldn't be a headline. These pride flags should have never been part of America's U.S. embassies, but the Biden administration and I think Obama administration started this. So there are some good things, but people see this.
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  And people see some of the fight that we have in our administration against this idiocy and these demonic agendas. And you think, good, we're going in the right direction. But we forget that this has been going on for decades. And a couple decisions in one administration or an executive order here or there, they're great, but they're not going to be able to completely root this out. George, your thoughts?
• 16:27
  Especially with all of the liberal judges that were appointed by the Obama administration. Our system is infested with liberalism. And so regardless of who we have in the government offices, you still have to keep an eye on what's happening on the local and state and city level. Don't ever let your guard down with liberals.
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  So now let's go over to Substack. And we recently had Katie Faust on the program. She is part of Them Before Us and also the, look this up, the Greater Than campaign. But over at Them Before Us, this is Josh Wood. He's also with the organization. Scroll down slowly, Jeff, and let's show people how this is reaching children.
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  Look at that. We've got all the Disney characters there. Pluto, Mickey, Minnie. And scroll down a little further. Oh, there's Sesame Street. Happy Pride Month. Join us in celebrating. Then scroll down a little bit more, and there's another Happy Pride Month from Peppa Pig. And a little bit further, there's Pixar. We're just trying to tell our stories like everyone else, and we're not going anywhere. That's Pixar. Nickelodeon.
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  There's two young men there hugging it out there. This goes shout out to all of our LGBTQ stars, families and allies. And then, you know, families marching four by four. You go down to Looney Tunes. Oh, and they show all the times I apparently Bugs Bunny dressed in track. Jeez. And that was funny when we were watching it as a kid. But now they're using that.
• 18:06
  to try to program kids i mean and it doesn't stop here with what we're showing so george this is what parents and grandparents have to be very careful of television movies the internet social media videos please be careful be discerning cartoons go ahead anything else they need to look out for
• 18:29
  Yeah, I wanted to say that first photo that was on that article, if they're able to go back and look at that real quickly, I wanted to show you all of the colors that are in there. There you go. The light blue, the pink and the white. Those are the trans. Those are the pedophile colors. Okay.
• 18:46
  For the pedophiles, the black and brown obviously is for the minorities, but the light blue, the pink and the white, that is now the inclusive, what do they call it? Minor attracted people. The light blue is for the little boys. The pink is for little girls and the white, I believe is for either or. Oh, wow.
• 19:08
  Just think about God. Think about God's heart when he sees what's happening with children and these demonically driven people and agenda that are trying to reach these kids and program them in this way. But let's move on before we run out of time. Unfortunately, we've got to talk about the church.
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  I've seen more—this hasn't gone away—the rainbow flags that are outside of some churches because they want to be welcoming. What does that mean? That means we've gotten away from the Bible and the inerrancy of Scripture and the perfection of God's Word, and we're looking at God or the Bible through the lens of—
• 19:47
  Experiences, feelings, this sex cult, inclusion, affirmation, those are the highest virtues, right? So let's go to this article, and this is over at Prophecy News Watch. America's new sacred symbol being raised across the land, the pride flag. And we know this is happening. It happens every year, not just in June, all summer long. But now we're talking about in churches, right?
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  Pride is being celebrated in more churches. George, let's stop there for a minute. Before we even talk about, you know, sex and the LGBTQ, let's talk about pride.
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  Isn't that a sin? I mean, doesn't it start with pride? And here churches are using this and celebrating this movement. It just doesn't make sense. So we've got to put churches in air quotes now that are doing this, don't we? What's next? Satanic rituals right before you sing at the cross? I don't know.
• 20:48
  You can't. I just, it has become such insanity, David. It's just really sad. You know, David, if I could just say something to the LGBT community, if they are watching this.
• 21:02
  The liberal theologians are lying to you, and I expose this in my book. I take all of the talking points, but I want you to know this is your soul and where you spend eternity. And regardless of what you think, feel, or believe, God's word is clear that two men or two women engaging in sexual activity is an abomination. It doesn't mean that God hates you. He has many restrictions and guidelines for heterosexual activities,
• 21:30
  intercourse and intimacy. So he's not unjustly picking on the community. But I want you to know, you're not only being lied to, but they're going to love you straight into hell if you don't choose to try to find out the truth for yourself. And all I'm asking is this, would you please either get my book or any other ex-gay lesbian, I don't know if they even address the issues from a biblical standpoint,
• 21:57
  But I expose that and I give you the truth of God's word in love. It is important that you renounce this and get into a Bible-believing church. And, of course, we want pastors and Christians to be loving and kind and compassionate. It doesn't mean that you are affirming someone's sin, but we all fall short of the glory of God. But get into a Bible-believing church where the pastor will lovingly tell you the truth of God's word and get things right with God before it's too late.
• 22:25
  Thank you, George. Right on. And I appreciate the heart with which you shared that, because God loves you, friends. And you might be in sin, but you don't have to stay there. And you will be lied to. I like how you put that. Some on the left, some that maybe they're believing it themselves. They'll love you straight to hell.
• 22:44
  But they have redefined love. God is love. They say love is love. What does that mean? Love means a physical relationship. Do whatever you want, whatever pleases you. Do what makes you happy. Be with who you want to be with. That's their division of love. God is love, the purest form of love that would sacrifice his own son to die for the sins of mankind. There's some good points in this article, George. This is what happened. We were created to worship God.
• 23:09
  We were created to love Him, to worship Him, to have a relationship with Him. Then this is what happens when a culture abandons biblical faith or the truth, but still possesses a deep human desire to worship. This is a worldview issue. If they reject God...
• 23:26
  They don't stop worshiping. They just worship something else. And that's what we're seeing right now with all these rainbow colors and the pride flag and these movements. So they elevate sexual identity and political causes into something resembling a substitute or a counterfeit religion.
• 23:46
  And it's become a cult of sexual deviance. I call it a religion of sex. But one more quote, and I'll let you respond to this, because they make some great points in this article. The pride movement increasingly contains many of the elements traditionally associated with faith. Stop and think about that. Okay, I'm listening. It has sacred symbols. It has approved doctrines. It has heresies that cannot be questioned. It has public rituals.
• 24:16
  festivals, forms of excommunication for those who refuse to affirm its teachings. Isn't that interesting, George? So this is almost like a religion, a cult, isn't it? Absolutely. It was a cult for me coming out of that community. And I want to say to the LGBTQ individuals, when I was, when God was,
• 24:38
  wooing me back to him and having to slowly deprogram my mind of the lies from the left, Hollywood, the mainstream media, the LGBT activists, and of course, the liberal theologians. It was a very difficult time for me because I didn't know what to do. I had had 25 years of that indoctrination and programming. But I'm here to tell you in love.
• 24:58
  They're lying to you and they're going to put you straight into hell. I'm begging you to please find out the truth for yourself. And I'm asking the Christian community to show compassion to these individuals and try to understand this issue. So then what I hope is that God will do a revival in the LGBT community.
• 25:17
  And hopefully many of them will exit that world. They're already discussing online how miserable they are. They're not finding any peace. Hopefully they will come to church, come to know Christ. They need to find a safe place to be able to walk in there. But you guys need to be equipped to deal with these individuals and to love them to the cross.
• 25:36
  Yes, continue to speak the truth in love. George, one more point about children. Children create emotional protection around these ideas that might otherwise face greater scrutiny. Over in Massachusetts, Somerville, the city officials recently had a pride flag raising ceremony at City Hall. Guess what? They had children lined up.
• 25:59
  and helped hoist the pride banner above the government building. And this was not simply a celebration of adults making personal choices. It was a public ceremony involving government institutions and children as the central participants. So this is sending a message. Look, the children want to do this. So they get children involved. That's part of the programming as well. So children watch, friends. Children are frequently placed in these positions. And a lot of times they don't even know what they're doing.
• 26:28
  Kids don't know why they're there. They're just there. Okay, I'll do whatever my mom and dad or whoever says to do. George, we have one more minute left. I'll let you share your final thoughts before we wrap it up.
• 26:37
  I'm asking Christians to get involved in politics and to get involved with the school boards and to stop this insanity. These kids, you throw in some balloons, some entertaining drag queens, some cake and a bunch of colors. And they just see it as, oh, this is a fun day. But they don't understand the propaganda and the indoctrination. And I'm telling you, that lifestyle is a destructive and dangerous lifestyle. Please read my book.
• 27:06
  It's not X-rated, but I don't sugarcoat it. Understand the reality of that world and so many of us who are exposing it and protect these children. George, thanks for your voice. Thanks for sharing your heart and just being so bold about it as well. We are running out of time. We've got to redeem the time because the enemy is gaining converts and we are supposed to be making disciples. So there is this world war going on in the realm of the spirit, right? Thanks, brother. We'll do this again soon. Appreciate it, David. Thank you.
• 27:35
  God bless you, friends, family, and Christ. As always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter. We'll see you next time.