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- 3:11Speaker 1: listening to a Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, speaking in Warren, Michigan.
- 3:16Speaker 1: One of her themes is reiterating support for strengthening labor
- 3:20Speaker 1: unions and also manufacturing products in the United States. Here
- 3:24Speaker 1: to tell us a little bit more about making products
- 3:26Speaker 1: here in the US is Tim and Tommy Gibb. They
- 3:29Speaker 1: are the co founders and the co chief executives of
- 3:32Speaker 1: Title New York, and they join us in the studio.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Thanks gentlemen for being here. Tim, let's begin with you
- 3:39Speaker 1: tell us what is Title. It's a flip flop company,
- 3:42Speaker 1: I know, but what is it? How did you start it?
- 3:44Speaker 1: And give us the whole story? Well, Title game about
- 3:47Speaker 1: from a simple notion that Tim and I grew up
- 3:50Speaker 1: around the footwear business all our lives. Our parents were
- 3:52Speaker 1: both in it, and um for the past ten years plus,
- 3:56Speaker 1: we've both been traveling around the world producing shoes, and
- 4:00Speaker 1: we thought that there was an opportunity to bring that
- 4:02Speaker 1: production back here to the States, and in order to
- 4:05Speaker 1: do so, we really needed to come up with an
- 4:07Speaker 1: innovative production process and look at the way things are.
- 4:11Speaker 1: These flip flops have traditionally been produced and really changed
- 4:14Speaker 1: the game with how we make them. Well, Tommy, give
- 4:16Speaker 1: us so great to have you in studio with your
- 4:18Speaker 1: brother Tim. I just followed you guys on at Title
- 4:22Speaker 1: New York, and I want to make sure we understand
- 4:24Speaker 1: it's T I D A L so uh Timmy or
- 4:29Speaker 1: t M I should say, what what inspired you? I mean,
- 4:33Speaker 1: you're in the shoewer industry, but you don't just make shoes,
- 4:35Speaker 1: you also hire veterans. Yeah, I mean for us, that
- 4:40Speaker 1: was something that was critical from the start, was to
- 4:43Speaker 1: put that labor force to work. They made We made
- 4:46Speaker 1: promises to them when they went overseas, and we need
- 4:49Speaker 1: to make good on those. Um. Basically, Tommy and I
- 4:53Speaker 1: have believed in that from the start, and that was
- 4:56Speaker 1: something that that that we were not going to go
- 4:58Speaker 1: back on. UM and it's been the most rewarding thing
- 5:01Speaker 1: that we that we've done in that someone in your
- 5:03Speaker 1: family in the military, or both our grandfathers were Um,
- 5:07Speaker 1: we're in Nebraska, guys. That's that's where we were born.
- 5:10Speaker 1: It's it's in our blood. And more than that, though,
- 5:13Speaker 1: if you look at the numbers, it doesn't matter. It's
- 5:15Speaker 1: up near whether you agree with war or not. In
- 5:19Speaker 1: what wars were in a huge number of Americans believe
- 5:24Speaker 1: that we should do right by the veterans. That's what
- 5:26Speaker 1: we that's what we both believe into. Gentlemen, Let's talk
- 5:29Speaker 1: about where the products actually come from. Because taking a
- 5:33Speaker 1: look at the details in New York, you do the
- 5:36Speaker 1: molding in the final assembly in Missouri, you develop the
- 5:40Speaker 1: wave of foam packagings from New Jersey. You source proprietary
- 5:45Speaker 1: strap material from Massachusetts. How did you decide on those
- 5:48Speaker 1: specific locations? So coming back, you know, we were well
- 5:52Speaker 1: versed in producing shoes around the globe, but here in
- 5:55Speaker 1: America we had to source out the right partners and
- 5:58Speaker 1: UM it was critical to us to maintain a percent
- 6:01Speaker 1: American made product through all componentry and materials. And it's
- 6:06Speaker 1: been an evolution as we built out the factory and
- 6:09Speaker 1: found those core partners. UM. Each one of them has
- 6:13Speaker 1: been the right partner for the right reasons, and we
- 6:17Speaker 1: look to them to be long term partners for us
- 6:20Speaker 1: for the future. So uh, it's interesting, Uh the number
- 6:24Speaker 1: of places that you have around the country. It's not
- 6:28Speaker 1: just New York, it's Massachusetts and a couple of other locations.
- 6:32Speaker 1: And you've come up with some innovative materials that's right. UM,
- 6:36Speaker 1: So through through what we've needed to do that the
- 6:39Speaker 1: footwear industry and the US is typically driven towards the
- 6:44Speaker 1: department offense. UM that's through subsidies and things like that.
- 6:48Speaker 1: They've been able to compete over with overseas. For us,
- 6:51Speaker 1: what we wanted to do and why we focus on
- 6:53Speaker 1: flip flops was because we could we could figure out
- 6:56Speaker 1: a way to automate something that's done through heavy labor
- 7:01Speaker 1: overseas and win that way because we weren't going to
- 7:03Speaker 1: do it on labor rates here. Um. So via finding
- 7:08Speaker 1: these partners that that to Tommy touched on, we've worked
- 7:12Speaker 1: with them and they've been amazing in terms of working
- 7:16Speaker 1: with us to really develop the product in such a
- 7:18Speaker 1: way that makes it better than it's been in the past.
- 7:21Speaker 1: And that's just through R and D and working hand
- 7:25Speaker 1: in hand. How did you select the artists whose work
- 7:29Speaker 1: you would license in order to decorate the flip flops?
- 7:33Speaker 1: And I understand, what about twenty eight dollars or so
- 7:36Speaker 1: forth for a pair of them? I know that Keith
- 7:37Speaker 1: Herring is one of the artists whose work you use. Yet,
- 7:41Speaker 1: so when we set out to do this, um, the
- 7:44Speaker 1: way we print the product allows for us to really showcase,
- 7:48Speaker 1: um the imagery and art seems like a natural um
- 7:53Speaker 1: it the flip flop serves as a canvas or a
- 7:55Speaker 1: T shirt for your feet, as we like to say.
- 7:57Speaker 1: And um, you know we we liked New York and
- 8:01Speaker 1: iconic you know American figures, and and there aren't many
- 8:05Speaker 1: more iconic you know American artists than John Michelle Buscia
- 8:08Speaker 1: and Keith Herring. And we also worked with Peter Tuney,
- 8:11Speaker 1: who's been a friend for a long time and is
- 8:13Speaker 1: um still active just south the Canal Street. So what
- 8:19Speaker 1: did it take to him to get this off the ground?
- 8:22Speaker 1: I mean, did you beat strapped? Did you borrow money
- 8:25Speaker 1: from friends and family? Uh? You know everything you can
- 8:29Speaker 1: think of? We did. Um, you know, it was there
- 8:32Speaker 1: was a lot. There's plenty that there were shipments that
- 8:35Speaker 1: were going out where we had fathers in law helping
- 8:37Speaker 1: out to pack the shoes at three am. Um. And yeah,
- 8:41Speaker 1: we bootstrapped it. We did a ton on our own,
- 8:45Speaker 1: but we had a lot of help from the people
- 8:47Speaker 1: that we love and from the people that believed in
- 8:50Speaker 1: what we were doing. Um. But in terms of what
- 8:54Speaker 1: it took, it took a lot of work. But when
- 8:57Speaker 1: you believe in something that is in your blood and
- 9:01Speaker 1: you believe you're doing it for the right reasons, it
- 9:04Speaker 1: makes it easy to get it done. Um. That doesn't
- 9:07Speaker 1: mean it's easy to get it done, but it keeps
- 9:09Speaker 1: you going and it and it and it really motivates
- 9:12Speaker 1: you every day. So making here, you know, is possible UM,
- 9:18Speaker 1: and it's it's something that if you put your mind
- 9:21Speaker 1: to it, it absolutely can be done. And we did
- 9:24Speaker 1: take UM. We had spa government support with funding and
- 9:28Speaker 1: we did a friends and family UM investment round to
- 9:32Speaker 1: begin with. So we uh, we we did have you know,
- 9:37Speaker 1: that's how we financed the business to get started. That
- 9:39Speaker 1: you're in a variety of department stores. You're in Bloomingdale's, Nordstrom,
- 9:43Speaker 1: Lord and Taylor, and also the Broad Museum in Los Angeles.
- 9:47Speaker 1: I don't know whether you heard about the news of
- 9:49Speaker 1: Macy's today, they're closing over a hundred stores, cutting that
- 9:53Speaker 1: of their base. Do you foresee the time when you're
- 9:55Speaker 1: gonna have your own retail outlets? So right now we're
- 9:59Speaker 1: really folk gussed on direct the consumer and how we
- 10:02Speaker 1: can evolve that experience with the consumer. And when we
- 10:06Speaker 1: started the factory, we focused on UH and the brand.
- 10:10Speaker 1: We really wanted to focus on emerging in the marketplace
- 10:13Speaker 1: and getting as much you know as we can out
- 10:15Speaker 1: there invisibility. And now we are taking that a step
- 10:19Speaker 1: further with some really awesome customer experiences where and coming
- 10:23Speaker 1: up on holiday, we'll have customizable platforms where you can
- 10:27Speaker 1: design your own flip flops on our sites. And we're
- 10:30Speaker 1: really you know, Tim and I have always focused on
- 10:33Speaker 1: progression and and progressing. You know a product that hasn't
- 10:37Speaker 1: been progressive? All right? Tim? Really quick? Where your website?
- 10:40Speaker 1: If I want to order www dot title New York
- 10:43Speaker 1: dot com Title New York. They are the founders, brothers,
- 10:47Speaker 1: Tim and Tommy gab. It's made in America, the employer,
- 10:51Speaker 1: military veterans. We thank you so much for joining us
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