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Order in the Court: Wapner at 4 · Children of the 80s

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  Speaker 2: Welcome Back to Children of the Eighties. I am one
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  Speaker 2: of your hosts, Jim, and I am joined as always
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  Speaker 2: by the lady who ain't afraid to take you to
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  Speaker 2: small claims court if you've done her wrong. It's my
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  Speaker 2: co host, Lindsay.
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  Speaker 1: I've got so many cases pending in small claims court
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  Speaker 1: right now that there's a backlog like COVID level backlog?
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  Speaker 2: Is it mostly because you've been offended by something? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: someone has offended you, Yes, taken them to small claims court?
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  Speaker 2: The audacity of people. Have you ever been in a
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  Speaker 2: dispute in small claims.
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  Speaker 1: Court in real life or in my head in real life? No?
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  Speaker 2: I have.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, But do you know where I
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  Speaker 1: got to go last week?
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  Speaker 2: You got to go to jury duty.
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  Speaker 1: I was called for jury duty last week. So for
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  Speaker 1: the fact that I was a pair of alegal, it
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  Speaker 1: always got me excused from jury duty. Nobody wanted me
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  Speaker 1: there right But now that I'm retired and I don't
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  Speaker 1: do that anymore. They jumped at the chance to have
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  Speaker 1: me down there, and I got to go so far
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  Speaker 1: as to go into the courtroom and answer questions from
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  Speaker 1: both attorneys, and I was sweating it out a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Previously you weren't even allowed in the courtroom. No, they
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  Speaker 2: didn't want me, and you were just like, I'm a
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  Speaker 2: pair of legal and they were like get out.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, don't even bother to drive down here.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been involved probably in about ten the small
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  Speaker 2: claims court cases in my life because it used to
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  Speaker 2: be part of a job that I had and I
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  Speaker 2: had to go represent the company in small claims court.
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  Speaker 2: I was nine and one. Wow. Of course, a couple
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  Speaker 2: of those who just settled, like you know, the judge
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  Speaker 2: would say, you guys, want to go try and settle
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  Speaker 2: something briefly before we get started here. And so a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times I was able to settle stuff and
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  Speaker 2: come to an agreement. But that nine and one, I
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  Speaker 2: did not win as much on the nine as I
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  Speaker 2: lost on the one. Yeah, I know that one about it.
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  Speaker 2: Sure did it cause for me to get a whole
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  Speaker 2: new career.
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  Speaker 1: I almost didn't get a chance to meet you because
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  Speaker 1: of that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I had to change careers shortly after that,
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  Speaker 2: because you don't look good in stripes. No, no, no, No,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't almost go to jail. It's a small claims court.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a criminal course. Is messing with you? Oh
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  Speaker 2: my goodness.
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  Speaker 1: Oh have you ever been to superior court? That's the
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  Speaker 1: one I want to go to. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: personally want to go, but I was wanting. If I
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  Speaker 1: had to do jury duty, I wanted to.
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  Speaker 2: Go to superior. Listen, I've got news for you. Any
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  Speaker 2: court room that I'm in is superior, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I I think this shows my I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say stupidity, because I've just got through telling you. I
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  Speaker 1: used to be a paralegal, and I was a darn
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  Speaker 1: good one. But I thought that a bailiff equaled like
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  Speaker 1: a police officer.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: No, these bailiffs down here, they look like older men
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  Speaker 1: and women. They looked like they had maybe retired from
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  Speaker 1: their real job, and this was like some side gig
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  Speaker 1: they had, and they were like stand up comedians. They
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  Speaker 1: just entertained us.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think Bull Shannon was a real cup I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So you're telling me he did not have a gun. No,
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  Speaker 1: because I thought bailiffs always had like some kind of
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  Speaker 1: a weapon, a gone, a stick, a taser or something.
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  Speaker 2: No, because they're old, did they probably get it taken
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  Speaker 2: away from them and then the judge gets shot or
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  Speaker 2: billy clubbed over the head.
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  Speaker 1: I did not know that all bailiffs were old. Are
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  Speaker 1: you telling me that they are or are you just
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  Speaker 1: referencing what I've told you.
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  Speaker 2: I am referencing what I have told, what you have
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  Speaker 2: told me, as well as what I have seen in
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  Speaker 2: person and on television.
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  Speaker 1: This blew my mind. I had one little old lady.
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  Speaker 1: She walked with the cane. She was a bailiff.
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  Speaker 2: So here's what I know. People weren't gonna mess with
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  Speaker 2: ros the bailiff on the night court. Right, she put
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  Speaker 2: up with no fools. Yeah, she was gonna take you
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  Speaker 2: down if she had to. People were probably afraid of
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  Speaker 2: bull because of his size. But little did they know
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  Speaker 2: that you could make them cry at the drop of
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  Speaker 2: a hat. Right, So, yeah, bailiffs are not real cups.
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  Speaker 2: They wear a uniform.
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  Speaker 1: No, these guys were just in street clothes.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, yes they were.
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  Speaker 1: And one little man okay, he looked like Otis from
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  Speaker 1: the Andy Griffiths show.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, was he drunk, No, he was sober.
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  Speaker 1: But he flirted all morning with another little elderly lady
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  Speaker 1: that was a juror.
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  Speaker 2: That dude, he.
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  Speaker 1: Did, but they he had a ring on his finger.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what in the world is going on here?
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  Speaker 2: Just figures he made it that long, you may as
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  Speaker 2: well go for birth. He was.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he was going for it.
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  Speaker 2: Most of us don't make it that long, show, So
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  Speaker 2: that was fun.
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  Speaker 1: That was something that I did not have on my
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  Speaker 1: Bingo card, but yet it was placed on there for me.
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  Speaker 2: So I somebody reached out to me with a message,
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  Speaker 2: huh a listener and wanted us to talk about a
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  Speaker 2: couple of words. Our listener, Amy talks about words that
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  Speaker 2: she uses with her teenage children that we used in
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  Speaker 2: the eighties that they just don't understand. And one of
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  Speaker 2: those words is.
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  Speaker 1: Mackin macin macin mac and cheesein not mac and cheesin, like.
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  Speaker 2: I'm macing on that girl over there, or that girl's
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  Speaker 2: macking on me. And I guess she used that with
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  Speaker 2: her daughters and they were like, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what that meant.
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  Speaker 2: So they didn't know what that meant. Here's here's a
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  Speaker 2: little something for you. He's thinking, I'm Mac macarony. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think about? What do you think about that? Macaroney?
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's funny.
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  Speaker 1: So if I say, uh, oh, you're macking on her,
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  Speaker 1: that means you're like you you're hitting her, you're interested in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hitting Okay, okay, I'm mac in honor.
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  Speaker 1: What are some other eighties words or phrases that Emmy
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  Speaker 1: would be clueless on?
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  Speaker 2: So the other one that she brought up is grab assen.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like something my grandmother would have said, right like,
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  Speaker 1: we would have left here on time if y'all hadn't
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  Speaker 1: been grab assing around, you know.
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  Speaker 2: My grandmother, old Nanny.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes she would say phrases like that, and I would
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  Speaker 1: be like, is.
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  Speaker 2: That bad word? That sounds like a bad word? So
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  Speaker 2: what other words do you think? You know? Because we
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  Speaker 2: still use awesome. We don't use rad so much anymore, do.
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  Speaker 1: We don't really do rad, but rad was definitely a
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  Speaker 1: big one. I will never forget when my cousin started
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  Speaker 1: using the word awesome, and it was everything was awesome,
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  Speaker 1: This was awesome, that was awesome?
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  Speaker 2: How I am now?
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of old Nanny? She got so upset. She hated
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  Speaker 1: that word, so I was forbidden to use it, right,
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  Speaker 1: and and I took that seriously because, like I've said before,
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  Speaker 1: whatever she said.
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  Speaker 2: Was gospel to me.
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  Speaker 1: So if if I was not allowed to say that
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  Speaker 1: word a word it was, this was not going to
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  Speaker 1: be said. And I will never forget when I guess
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  Speaker 1: what is it? Miriam Webster, they added awesome to the dictionary.
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  Speaker 1: My cousins felt so vindicated.
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  Speaker 2: What what about what is it that Bart Simpson used
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  Speaker 2: to say? Yes? Uh so I always think about that?
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  Speaker 2: Or what about bodacious? Bodacious? Yeah, nobody uses totally tubular?
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  Speaker 1: Everything was bodacious. Yes, I feel like, did somebody on
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  Speaker 1: Full House say, as if that feels like something that
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  Speaker 1: they said on Full House?
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  Speaker 2: But as if as if that was no, that was clueless?
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  Speaker 2: Oh was that clueless? I had to think about it
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  Speaker 2: for a second there. Well duh, yeah, although they use
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  Speaker 2: they use erm for duh now at least our Kid,
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  Speaker 2: Yes they do, at least Emmy does. Yeah, everything's ERM. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so they used that for duh. What about grody? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they don't use grody. They wouldn't know what grody was.
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  Speaker 1: Brody probably sounds like a person's.
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  Speaker 2: Name to Yeah, yeah, exactly, Quinn's grody and brody over.
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  Speaker 1: There, grody and grady yeah, or grody gratedy.
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  Speaker 2: Or Brady and grady, Yes, body and grody.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I always hated this. Okay, like this, gag
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  Speaker 1: me with a spoon. Gag me with a spoon. That's
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  Speaker 1: from volley girl. But I mean that like I have
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  Speaker 1: a physical reaction. Do you see me?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? I do you look like you're being gagged with
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  Speaker 2: a spoon.
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  Speaker 1: Having to work hard to like, Okay, let me get
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  Speaker 1: something to drink. You see my eyes are.
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  Speaker 2: W Okay, I will make sure I do not use
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  Speaker 2: that because you weren't one to run to the bathroom
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  Speaker 2: when you're getting ready to uh to lose your lunch
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  Speaker 2: total for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So there was nothing quite like the lexicon
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  Speaker 1: of the nineteen eighties.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I love that. Yeah, Macin, I'm gonna go macing
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  Speaker 2: on that chick. But but my I would have been
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  Speaker 2: over there macing on that chicken. My friends hadn't been
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  Speaker 2: grab assing around.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what give me an example if you can think
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  Speaker 1: of something that, say, you were at the mall and
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  Speaker 1: you saw a cute girl, what what did you reference
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  Speaker 1: her as to your friends.
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  Speaker 2: Like, now you might be like, oh, she's hot, which babe.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's a babe. Babe, babe, Babe, that's a pig.
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  Speaker 2: Babe's a pig. A babe's a babe. Just because a
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  Speaker 2: pig was named babe doesn't make a babe, not a babe,
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  Speaker 2: make a baby pig. I've had both.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I'm glad she brought those up and
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  Speaker 3: asked us to do this, because that was Those were
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  Speaker 3: two words that I hadn't thought of in a long
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  Speaker 3: time other than than the end of Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Mcar so clueless on that. Gosh. But yeah, that's good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see what else do we have. You know what,
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  Speaker 2: I've got another nomination. I know, because I'm middle aged.
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  Speaker 4: Man knowledge at a party than I really more interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I have another nominee for the Middle Aged Man Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame. I'm so curious. So all the other ones
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  Speaker 2: that I've nominated, I feel like have been slam dunks.
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  Speaker 2: This one I don't feel like that, So I'm leaving
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  Speaker 2: it totally up to your hands. So I want to know,
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  Speaker 2: does this guy get into the Middle Aged Man Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame or does he get banned? Forever, and I
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  Speaker 2: am nominating one mister John Lithgow.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a good one. I mean, if you
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  Speaker 1: think back.
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  Speaker 2: To Harry and the Henderson's footloose, footloose, he looked old men.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh geez.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: let him in.
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  Speaker 2: We have another Hall of Famer, mister John Lithgow joined,
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  Speaker 2: good job. So are you ready to get two? Today's episode?
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  Speaker 4: So?
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  Speaker 1: Is this round three of the cartoon themes?
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  Speaker 2: This is not. We are taking a break this week
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  Speaker 2: to refuel for the second half of the cartoon theme song.
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  Speaker 2: I'm having trouble gathering three guests at one time, who
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  Speaker 2: can all agree on their schedule? Who can all agree
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  Speaker 2: on their schedules? So we decided to take a mid
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  Speaker 2: first round break and then hopefully get back to it
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  Speaker 2: next week. But if not, for sure in two weeks
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  Speaker 2: we'll get it out by the time the final four
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  Speaker 2: rolls around. So are you ready to get to today's episode?
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready, all right.
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  Speaker 1: This is a podcast that looks back on the decade
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  Speaker 1: of the nineteen eighties. We talk about things that were
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  Speaker 1: important to us as children and what we look back
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  Speaker 1: on with fond memories as adults. Ultimately, this is a
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  Speaker 1: nostalgia podcast. But let me just say there is not
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  Speaker 1: a time that I have said those words since I
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  Speaker 1: did the Serial Killer episode that I don't think at
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  Speaker 1: the time that you were like, I don't look back
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  Speaker 1: on Ted Bundy with fond memories.
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  Speaker 2: I do not. So this was my idea. But I
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  Speaker 2: picked this idea because I knew this would be something
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  Speaker 2: that you would love to do. So I still consider
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  Speaker 2: it kind of your episode, even though I came up
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  Speaker 2: with the idea. So do you want to tell the
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  Speaker 2: folks what the idea or do you just want me
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  Speaker 2: to play the opening and then that will give it away?
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  Speaker 2: Just play the opening, all right?
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  Speaker 5: What you are witnessing is real. The participants are not actors.
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  Speaker 5: They are actual litigans with a case pending in a
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  Speaker 5: California IMUNSSI full court. Both parties have agreed to dismiss
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  Speaker 5: their court cases and have their dispute settled here in
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  Speaker 5: our fora people's court.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about that? I love that.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't watch The People's Court back in the early eighties,
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  Speaker 1: but I started watching it in the later eighties, and
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  Speaker 1: then I watched.
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  Speaker 2: All the Court.
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  Speaker 1: TV shows that then spawned off of The People's.
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  Speaker 2: Like Judge Judy Yep and Judge Joe Brown yep, and
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  Speaker 2: Judge Jimmy all of them, Judge Jimmy Johns.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Johns sometimes I eat their sandwiches.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, we're gonna talk about people today. That's kind
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  Speaker 2: of a I don't know, a random television show to
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  Speaker 2: talk about because it wasn't like it was on in
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  Speaker 2: prime time. It was just kind of on in syndication
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  Speaker 2: in the afternoon. He's a syndicated show.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, imagine it's the mid nineteen eighties. You just
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  Speaker 1: got home from school, you got your son kissed and
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  Speaker 1: your butter crackers, and you sit down in front of
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  Speaker 1: the TV and you see two neighbors arguing about a
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  Speaker 1: broken lawnmower. Sitting above them in a black robe is
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  Speaker 1: a calm, no nonsense judge, and within minutes he says,
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  Speaker 1: for words that millions of Americans heard every afternoon, the
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  Speaker 1: case is over. Today we're talking about the show that
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  Speaker 1: invented the courtroom reality genre, the People's Court. Long before
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  Speaker 1: Judge Judy, there was Judge Wapner.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, long before Judge Ito, there was Judge.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like if we would have had Judge Wapner
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  Speaker 1: instead of Judge Edo, things could have gone a lot different.
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  Speaker 2: You know, People's Court debuted in nineteen eighty one, and
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  Speaker 2: I feel like Judge Wapner and Judge Reinhold hit fame
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  Speaker 2: about the same time. Yes, correct, correct, lots of judges.
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  Speaker 2: So how did it come to be?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any info or did you leave it
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  Speaker 1: up to me to do all the research.
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  Speaker 2: I left it up to you to do all the research.
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  Speaker 2: I left it up to you. Oh gosh, we are
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  Speaker 2: in trouble. So here is here's just a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of background. So when People's Court premiered back in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty one, it was brand new for television. Right, they
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  Speaker 2: didn't have anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not something that had ever been before.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I'm not sure how much reality TV they had
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  Speaker 2: before nineteen eighty one. And so this is certainly the
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  Speaker 2: first court room reality TV. And this would lead, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, to Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown and
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  Speaker 2: possibly even like court TV. Yeah for sure. Right, So
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  Speaker 2: everybody got to watch the OJ case because of People's Course. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: And so the show was created by legendary TV producer
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  Speaker 2: Ralph Edwards, who had already had huge success with shows
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  Speaker 2: like Truth or Consequences and This Is Your Life, probably
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  Speaker 2: a little bit pre gen X time, but we kind
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  Speaker 2: of knew what those were back then. But what he
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  Speaker 2: wanted was people to bring real disputes to television and
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  Speaker 2: a real judge to judge them. And so TV courtroom
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  Speaker 2: dramas existed at that time, but they were scripted shows obviously,
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  Speaker 2: right he thought Edwards thought that audiences would be fascinated
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  Speaker 2: by authentic disputes between ordinary people. And let me tell you,
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't wrong. And of course, any anytime somebody brings
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  Speaker 2: a new idea, the network are skeptical. They were a
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  Speaker 2: little bit skeptical at first, but once it started airing,
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  Speaker 2: it became a daytime TV hit, and it actually stayed
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  Speaker 2: on the air until nineteen ninety three in its original run.
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  Speaker 2: So can you imagine every day they're playing People's Court
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  Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty one to nineteen ninety three. And when
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  Speaker 2: I say every day, I mean every weekday, right Monday
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  Speaker 2: through Friday, Monday through Friday for twelve years. That's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of cases. There was a lot of cases.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got a little bit of background info on
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  Speaker 1: who Judge Wapner was. Yeah, Joseph Wapner. He was a
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  Speaker 1: retired Los Angeles County.
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  Speaker 2: Superior Court judge.
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  Speaker 1: He was appointed in nineteen fifty nine, and he was
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  Speaker 1: known for his fairness and discipline, so we could describe
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  Speaker 1: his style. He was the anti Judge Judy. He was calm,
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  Speaker 1: he was methodical, but just like Judge Judy, he had
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  Speaker 1: no patience for nonsense.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, he was a no nonsense, this kind
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  Speaker 2: of guy. I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: So do you remember his don't interrupt me? Yes, he
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  Speaker 1: would tell you right there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. He did not like that. He did not
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: like to be interrupted.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like some of the judges on the court
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: TV shows after him, they were much more into the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: theatrics of the whole thing. Yes, and he was just
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: strictly there to hear the facts of the case and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to you know, figure out.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And to rule on it. Yeah. Absolutely, But yeah, he
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: would he would shut people down. You know, it didn't
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: matter if they were rambling, like you know, some people
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: get in court they just ramble, ramble, ramble, and he's
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: just like he'd shut it down. I wish I could
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: do that in real life. Yeah, me too, Right, people
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: just start rambling and just like, okay.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I would if I think if we could carry around gavels,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: we could maybe we could bang our gavel Oh and.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: You know what he else he didn't do. He didn't
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: put up with people who tried to dodge questions. Right,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: He'd like, you better answer the question. That's how I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: want to be in my job. I want to tell
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: the people and I'm trying to get money from that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: You need to answer the question. Because they liked to
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: dodge it too, But I loved it. Like he was
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: very dry and he was very direct, and sometimes because
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: of that it made certain situations hilarious, even though I
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: don't think they were meant to be hilarious. So think
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: about this.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So here's something that little Inn's did not think about
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: because I didn't have the capacity to. But so he
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: was a retired judge, yes, okay, so he was mediating
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: these cases. This was not a real courtroom. He was
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: not a judge that could preside over a case any longer.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: So they would go a lot of times and stand
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: in the parking lot at the courthouse and wait for
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: people to come up and talk to them and try
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to get them to come on the show. They would
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: run ads in the newspaper, but the participants had to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: agree to dismissed their case in real court in an
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: exchange for Judge Wopner to mediate their case. So there's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: a difference there. I mean, I guess it's small claims court,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: so really, what do you have to lose? But I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: don't know, does that Have you ever thought about that?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: No? I as a kid, I guess I just thought
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: it was like a real one.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: It was a real court room. He was a judge,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, and he was a judge at one point,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: but he was no longer an active judge. Judge Judy
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: was on, which I know she's retired now, but when
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: she did her show, she was no longer an active judge.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: She was mediating those cases now for Judge Wopner in
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the people's court. A lot of times, the defendants agreed
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: or the plaintiffs too, probably agreed to go on this
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: show and do this because the production company covered all
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the costs, including the judge judgment.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so because it was in a real court. I
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: guess Judge Wapner couldn't hold you in contempty. No, well,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you were not.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I mean he could get upset. He never got upset
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: like Judge Judy did. But legally there was nothing he could.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Do if you were if you were bligerent.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't going to start yelling at you like
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson did.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: But but I wonder if you were belligerent, even though
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: he couldn't hold you in contempt a court, he probably
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: wouldn't find for your case.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Probably not so, but his decision was binding.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: The production company covered the judgment. Each party walked away
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: with like one hundred bucks in their pocket, right for their.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: For their appearance, yes, right, plus their hotel rooms and
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: stuff were taken care of.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I guess I assumed that, say, if it was filmed
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, they took cases.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: From I think they took cases from all over Oh,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I never thought about it. I think they down cases
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: from all over there.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And maybe they didn't initially, but maybe they had to
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to keep the supply going. That would make sense. Yeah,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, only so much can go on in the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: La Municipal Court.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I've been to the UH to the Atlanta Municipal Court.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of small clubs. So getting back to
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Judge Wattner, like you said, he was kind of no nonsense,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: but he was calm. He was patient, but he was
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: he was, you know, firm. He's kind of like a grandpa,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: a little bit right and sometimes sarcastic, which I loved
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: it when he got sarcastic. Right. But he hated, like
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you said, people talking over him. He hated excuse it.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: So you and him have that in common.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, how many times have I turned the spotlight on
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: you because I thought you were making Oh?
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I know, and I've I've quit doing that. I don't
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: make excuses anymore. I just own it. He hated bad evidence,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: and obviously he hated dishonesty. He would use catchphrases like
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: don't interrupt me, please. He was very firm about it,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and also like, that's not responsive to my question. Oh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna file that one back, right, which makes me
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: wonder of the people that were there, how many of
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: them understood that language that's responsive to my question. But
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: you know, viewers loved him and they believed that he
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: was like the most legitimate judge that's ever been on television. Yeah, right,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Because Judge Judy kind of became like a character. In
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: my opinion, she lost credibility.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with all her yelling and screaming and stuff. Because
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: there's a judge, you don't need to you don't need
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to yell.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. So who else was in the
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: courtroom besides so er the baila? Yeah, Rusty Burrel or
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Burrell Rusty Yeah, Rusty I didn't know his name was Rusty. Yes,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So Rusty handled court room security, huh. He also handled
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the evidence, so if the plane for the defendant had
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: evidence to give to the judge, they would hand it
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: to Rusty and Rusty would take it to Judge Wapner.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: He also escorted each of the litigans in and out
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: of the courtroom, so he'd bring in the plane of first,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: and then the uh defended second, and then later seasons
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: had some other bailiffs. I guess maybe Rusty got a
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: little bit too old. But Rusty's the one that I
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: think most people think of when you're talking bailiffs in
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the people's court.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, so there's Rusty, but then there's also who was
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the other guy?
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Was he the guy who interviewed people?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, wasn't the announcer? What was he?
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Hello? I'm Doug Llewellyn, and welcome to the people's Court.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: This is the case of Love Me Love My Cadillact.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: That was the case. That was the case Love Me
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Love My Cadillac. So the interviewer, and he was kind
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: of the announcer because he'd kind of announced at the
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: beginning it was Doug Luwellen, which is a name that
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget. I don't know why, but Llewellyn just
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: cracks me up. Yes, it sounds like why, I don't know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Doug lu Wellen. It just that's just a funny last name.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: It's like, uh, it's like Jr's ex wife and wife again,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Sue Ellen Due Ellen. So he was always out there
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: with his microphone talking with his perfect hair. And I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: watched it again today and I'm pretty sure that was
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a rug. Oh, I'm pretty sure that you.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Know what cracks me up When you come to me
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and it'll be the most obvious to pay anyone has
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: ever seen. And you will come to me and you
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: will be so serious and you'll be like, I'm not sure,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: but I think that might be all wrong.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Oh it's a rug and I like yuffie. Yeah, so
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: nice rug, very well combed and manicured rug. But a rug,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: no doubt. So he hosted the Hallway interviews, right. He
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: would talk to the litigains before the case and then
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: ask them what happened, and then of course interview them
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: after that verdict. And the interviews after the verdict were
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: always the best because people were emotional, some of them
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: were furious, some were shocked, and then even some were
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: like hilariously delusional and so Doug Luwellen his famous line
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: was always now let's hear from the litigants. Did he
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: have a legal background himself? Do you know? I do
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: not know. He was a news reporter. Yeah, he seemed
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: more like a news reporter. Listen to this.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty six, Llewellyn was a producer of the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Mystery of al Capone's.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Vaults with with a Paraldo you know it, you know it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: He also produced the Return to Titanic Live special in
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: eighty seven.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, I remember that one. So he is eighty
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: seven and still alive. Wow. So he's eighty seven, So
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: that means in nineteen eighty he was forty one. Okay, yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that tracks and.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: It says if you look at it wiki page, it
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: says years active nineteen sixty to present.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: So he's eighty seven and still working. Wow, he's still
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: working to present? Does that mean he gets a present
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: or that means he's still working today?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: It means he gets a present with a red bow.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: So why do you think the show works so well?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: It was new, It was something that no one had
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: ever seen before. And I think you know, we're as people,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: we love the voyeurism of seeing into other people's lives. Yes, right,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: we're nosy people. We see an ambulance come down our street,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: what's the first thing I do? Run to the upstairs
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: bedroom so I can look out the window to see
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: where it goes, Right, Like I want to know people's
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: business now, I want to see it kind of from
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: a distance.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get myself up in the middle
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: But I think watching the drama and the craziness unfold
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: on your TV that's a safe distance.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, Because you know these were real people, right,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: They weren't actors, so it wasn't like it was scripted.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: They were real people. Sometimes they were neighbors, right, Sometimes
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: they were friends, landlords and tenants obviously you know that's
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: a big one here in Georgia. But it was very relatable.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I think the other thing was that the cases were
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: always short, right, ten fifteen minutes stops, so you didn't
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: have to have a long attention span. You know, there
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: was some shenanigans in the courtroom, but then after when
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Doug Llewellen interviewed them, that was always that was always gold.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: And then also Judge Wapner, like he was very good
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: at explaining everything, so you felt like you were learning
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: things about the law and you were learning things about mediation,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and so I think it was a little bit educational
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: in that manner, especially for somebody that was a kid
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: or a teenager and somebody who's always kind of been
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: fascinated for the by the law. Well, you know, that's me.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: So this kind of boom had hit home because I
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: got the I got the let me grab my popcorn
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: and watch people fight it out right, and then I
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: got the education. And then I also got the comedy
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: of it as well. So I think that's, uh, that's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: pretty good.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna play a little game I like to
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: call was this a real case on the People's Court? Okay,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like I need a theme song.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you a theme song. What do you
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: think about that?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Well, that's not what I had in mind, but it'll do.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Okay? Is this better? Is that a better theme song
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: for you? I think I like that one better. Okay.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you just a little snippet of a case.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I want you to tell me. Was this a real
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: case on the people's court?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Or am I full of baloney? Yes? Exactly? You ready? Yes?
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: The plaintiff sues after his friend allegedly smashed his Atari
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: twenty six hundred console during a heated pac Man tournament.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: That is that is a true case. That is a
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Lindsey made up case? All right? I thought it was,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: but since the practice case you gave me that's not
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: on the air now, was so ridiculous and was not
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: a case.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: And the look on my face, didn't I have a
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: look on my face?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Okay? Here we go.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: A woman suit a pet store, claiming the expensive talking
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: parrots she bought never said a word that is true?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Is correct?
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Wopner's ruling the case was dismissed. He said the store
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: never guaranteed the bird would talk, and parrots aren't appliances.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: What do you think of that? That's awesome? I love
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: chug Joopner. Okay.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Plaintiff claims the defendant borrowed his three hundred dollars boom
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: box for a beach party and returned it full of
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: sand and with blown speakers after blasting run DMC.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Did Johnny Lawrence throw it down on the beach. I'm
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: gonna say that's true. O.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong wrong, wrong, You're wrong, You're wrong.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: You're all So that that was a Lindsay made up case.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: A man demands reimbursement for skating lessons and pizza after
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend dumped him mid song while Heaven played.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Incorrect. That's false, but come on the detail I put
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: into that. Come on while Heaven was playing, that's what
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: gave it away. Okay.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: A woman claimed a psychic promise to remove a curse
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: but failed.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: That is a true case.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: That is correct.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Kick at this game.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Wopner's ruling the psychic had to refund the money. His logic,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: if you had psychic powers, you would have known you'd
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: lose this case.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Good judgeper We love those dad jokes.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: A defendant argued his dog wouldn't have betten anyone because
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: he's a friendly dog.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, I believe that is also a true case. You
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: are correct. Uh.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Judge Wapner's response, dogs don't testify to their own character
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and the defendant lost.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Oo.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: A landlord refused to return a tenant security deposit for
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: general wear and tear.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I mean that goes on every day, So I'm gonna
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: say that's true. Okay. Wapner's ruling. The deposit was returned.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: His comment, apartments are meant to be lived in, not
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: preserved in amber.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Oh I love it. Wow, dude did mess around me.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I love it. Let me give you one more, Give
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: me one more. Okay, let me pick out a good
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: one here.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Plaintiff sues after a dry cleaner shrank his pass down
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: blazer meant to match Miami Vice fashion.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: That sounds way too bizarre to be true, so I'm
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: gonna say it's true.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: It is not all you can tell by the amount
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of detail I give when I'm making a story up.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Oh that's fantastic, So I've got one for you. Okay.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Was this true or false? A tenant suit a landlord
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: claiming the toilet exploded and flooded the apartment. A tenant
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: sued the landlord, claiming that his toilet exploded and flooded
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: the apartment. That's true, That is true. Judge Wapner calmly asked,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: did the toilet actually explode or did it overflow?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: You know when you get stressed, explode overflow?
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: We got time, nitpick here. Did you know that they
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: did ten to twelve disputes in one day? Oh wow?
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: So they just really like, yeah, they they would film
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: ten to twelve and you know there were only two
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: per episode because its thirty minute show, so they could
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: get a week's worth or a little bit more than
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: a week's worth in one day.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: That reminds me of when we did the game show episode.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: And I want to say, Wheel of Fortune just records
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a ton.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: At a time. I think Jeopardy does too.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they just bang it out right, right, So
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: when I think of the People's Court, I always have
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to go back to rain me.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I was going to bring up the pop
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: culture impact on that and so yeah, after four minutes,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: just shut up and stand there. Program there.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: That's when they're they're out in the middle of nowhere
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: and Brayman's counting down, Wapner's coming on, He's coming on,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Wapner's coming on. So they just come up to like
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the first house that they get to in the middle
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: of nowhere, and he's gonna try to get him in,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and at first the lady who answers the door is like, heck, no,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not letting two weirdos in my house. And then
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: he starts explaining this dude's about to have a nervous
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: breakdown on your front porch if you don't let us
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: in to watch Wapner. And she was like, well, we
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: usually watch cartoons this time of day because she has
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a house full of kids, would that be okay? And
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: then the next scene it shows everybody's sitting watching Canern.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: So that lady would be part of the middle aged
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Woman Hall of Fame because she has been in everything
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: and she still looks the exact same age. She hasn't
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: age she did forty years ago. She has aged yet
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: she's always been old. Yes, And I don't know her name,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: but she's like that lady like you would know her.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Anybody who knows what I'm talking about would know her.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: And I'll find her name before the end of the show,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: so we can figure out, you know, all the things
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: that she's been in.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: So I guess I misremembered the quote. I always thought
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: it was Wopner at five, meaning Wapner comes on at
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: five o'clock.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: No, it was Wapner in five. So I think he's
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: started counting down at like ten minutes. They were still
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: in the car, and he's like, Wapner in ten, yeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: and yeah, I just went down. I love how he
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: called it Wapner. It wasn't the People's Court, it Wasner Wopner.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: And she kept a log too of who yeah. Yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: he had to have a log of you know, who
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: won plaintiff's cases and and defendants and all that stuff.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: So I will say that this was so much into
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: pop culture. This was nineteen eighty nine, but I can
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: say around nineteen eighty four nineteen eighty five, my my
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: younger brother, Matt, was, you know, on a baseball team.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: We were all on baseball teams, but we would go
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: to each other's games. We lived the summers at the ballparks, right,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: so if your brother was playing, you were watching your brother.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: You might be playing with your friends or whatever. But
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I remember watching his game one time. You knew all
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the dads on the team, right, But there were two
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: guys there that I guess were a friend of a
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: dad that had never been there before. So we're watching it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Their plays are happening. There was a close play. Our
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: team felt like they got hosed. Everybody was hollering and
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: yelling at the umpire from the stands, and I remember
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: one of the friends yell, yell out, take them to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: the People's Court, and then without missing a beat, the
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: guy next to him, his buddy goes Judge Wapner says
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: he was safe. That's funny, and that's how ingrained into
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: the culture the People's Court was back in the eighties. Absolutely,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: you've got grown men yelling at teenage umpires that they
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: should have to go to the People's Court where Judge
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Wapner can be rate them. Okay. So the the original
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: run ended in nineteen ninety three, as you said, nineteen
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: eighty one to nineteen ninety three, and they replaced Wapner
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: with another judge, and the peoples did not like it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: They did that I think too back to back, right.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: They neither of them lasted very long. Yeah, because they
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: were Wopner.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: No, they weren't Wapner. And the ratings dropped and the
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: show was canceled, and so it was no longer the
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: People's Court. It was you know, we hate this court
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: because Judge Wapner is gone. Yep, he made the show.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: He did, he did. I mean you could have Doug
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Llewellen and Rusty the bailiff, but if Wapner isn't there,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: that's like having cheers with Norman Cliffe. But no Sam
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: he So, I can't remember.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: It was revived for just a short time maybe, or
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: maybe it was longer than I thought. It was a
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: female judge. Do you remember her?
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, yes, Marilyn Million, I think it was. Their name,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: was her, Milan Hern.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: She invited Judge Wapner to come back and preside over
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: a case for his ninetieth birthday. No way, how cool
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: is that you lived to be more than ninety that
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: we I mean, that's really showing him some respect, the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: respect he deserved.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: So the lady that I was trying to think of,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: the actress that we all know. Her name is Beth Grant.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Oh she what did she do?
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: It was some episode of a TV show where she
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: was flirting.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: It was Fraser. Was she on Frasier? I'm pretty sure
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: she was? So here let me let me tell you
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: what what she's been in so she was in Rainman.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: She was in Flatliners as a housewife. She was in
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Speed as Helen. These are all just like a little
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: small parts. She was in A Time to Kill as
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Cora May Cobb's See what else was she in? She
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: was in Little Miss Sunshine as the peggean official remember that. Yep.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: She was in No Country for Old Man Man. She
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: is in like dozens of movies each year because she's
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: just got these little bit bit parts. She's been in
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty movies. But here she She
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: was on an episode of Mister Belvedere. Okay. She was
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: on two episodes of The Golden Girls, playing two different characters.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: She was Martha the maid on Coach. It was Coach.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: It was Coach.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I knew it was one of the shows we watched.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: She was a couple of episodes on Hunter, which I
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: know is one of your favorites. She was on an
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: episode of Friends. She was on an episode of Malcolm
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: in the Middle. She was actually on two of those.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: She had different voices on eleven episodes of King of
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: the Hill. She had four episodes on Yes Deer, and
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't she Dwight's date on the office when they you
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: are so right, Oh my goodness. So yeah, she's just
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: been in a ton of stuff and she's like one
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: of those ladies that you see and you're like, oh,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I know her. And she was born in nineteen forty nine.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: So she was.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Forty in nineteen eighty nine when Rainman was out, and
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: she is seventy six now, and I'm not sure she's
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: aged that much. That's funny.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: So a couple of places that Judge Wapner appears in
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: pop culture. On the back cover of Alice Cooper's nineteen
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: eighty three album Da Da has a special thanks to
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Judge Joseph A.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Wopner. Wow, I don't know.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: On June nineteen eighty six, Walter appeared on The Tonight
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Show to hear a case of David Letterman versus Johnny
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Carson over a lunch damage to the headlight of Letterman's
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: pickup trunck when Carson had the truck towed to the studio.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Wopner ruled in favor of Letterman, granting him twenty four
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: dollars in ninety five cents. How funny is it? But
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: let me just say one more thing. About Judge Wapner.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: That might be the most honorable.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Part of his story. Do you look like the wordplay there? Yeah.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Judge Wapner was a graduate of the University of Southern
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: California in the USC Law School, serving in World War
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Two in between. Wapner was awarded the Purple Heart and
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the Bronze Star while serving in the South Pacific.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Wow, yep, I had a grandpa that also served into
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: South Pacific. I wonder if he knew what I mean,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: don't you wonder about this thing? I do? I mean,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: the chances are, the chances are very little that they
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: knew each other. But you know, it's always possible, scary
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: place to serve, more possible than me being a Native American.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: That's another episode. Oh, this was a fun little trip
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: down memory lane.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just to think. It all came about because I
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: had jury duty exactly, and because I couldn't get three
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: guests to join us at the same time. Oh, do
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: you need help with that? I can help you.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: No.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people went out of town
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: for some reason around this time. Maybe it's spring break
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: time or something. So I think a lot of people
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: hopped out of town for vacations and whatnot, but they'll
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: be back and then we'll get them on. Okay, we'll
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: pick back up, we will pick back up. If not
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: next week, then the week after, so okay.
• 46:53
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• 46:56
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• 46:59
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• 47:03
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• 47:08
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• 47:11
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• 47:14
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• 47:16
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• 47:25
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• 47:29
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• 47:31
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• 47:33
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• 47:35
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• 47:42
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• 47:45
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• 47:48
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• 47:52
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• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Method, okay, well, anything else mm hmm.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I think I think that's all I've got. I will
• 48:05
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• 48:06
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• 48:10
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