Latest / WIXN AM 1460 - Shaw Local Radio / Children's book author Josh Binder
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You've joined the Waking crew here on FM ninety five
- 0:03Speaker 1: one and AM fourteen sixty wix N. Now it is
- 0:08Speaker 1: time for our talk line. I am joined in the
- 0:10Speaker 1: booth today by a man that I know that but
- 0:14Speaker 1: I'm not sure you do, and I hope you will
- 0:16Speaker 1: a lot better after leaving. I'm talking about Josh Bender,
- 0:18Speaker 1: a local author who has a new book coming out,
- 0:24Speaker 1: but I kind of want to rewind that. Josh, why
- 0:26Speaker 1: don't you you introduce yourself to the listeners and tell
- 0:29Speaker 1: folks where the beginning of this new book came from,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and then we'll lead in there.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Sure well, Abandon, thanks again for having me on. Yeah,
- 0:38Speaker 2: Josh Bender, I grew up here in Sterling, moved here
- 0:41Speaker 2: when I was in fourth grade, so to have ties here,
- 0:45Speaker 2: been running outwork elite along with dj Alatte in the
- 0:48Speaker 2: area as well.
- 0:49Speaker 3: So although I live in Sugar Grove now we're out
- 0:52Speaker 3: here all the time.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Love the Souk Valley area. The Mighty Maddy books are
- 0:57Speaker 2: inspired by my daughter daughter It will be seven in February,
- 1:02Speaker 2: but she was born with tetrology of flow with an
- 1:05Speaker 2: AV valve defect and pulmonary stenosis. So essentially what that
- 1:08Speaker 2: means is she was born with a heart with no
- 1:11Speaker 2: chambers and her pulmonary and her order weren't attached. Oh wow,
- 1:15Speaker 2: So essentially good blood, bad blood, oxygenated blood is just
- 1:19Speaker 2: kind of all floating around. Amazingly. You can survive that,
- 1:22Speaker 2: but you need surgery right away. It's very common in
- 1:26Speaker 2: individuals with Down syndrome, and so when we found that
- 1:29Speaker 2: out at five months, that was kind of the first
- 1:31Speaker 2: sign that there may be a Down syndrome diagnosis. And
- 1:35Speaker 2: when we were delivered that news, you know, you got
- 1:38Speaker 2: to imagine you go in for like your five month appointment.
- 1:40Speaker 2: You're all excited, you're gonna hear the heart beat, you
- 1:42Speaker 2: think all good things, and a matter of like forty
- 1:45Speaker 2: five minutes, it went from something really exciting for my
- 1:48Speaker 2: wife and I to.
- 1:51Speaker 3: Hey, there's something wrong with the heart. Do you want
- 1:53Speaker 3: to proceed? Right?
- 1:54Speaker 2: And so like that whirlwind of emotion from excitement to
- 1:59Speaker 2: do you want to? And I know we're not unique
- 2:01Speaker 2: in that we're not the only family that has dealt
- 2:03Speaker 2: with those conversations, and so there's a million I could
- 2:08Speaker 2: go on for long and long, but that was really
- 2:10Speaker 2: the crux in the beginning of Okay, everything we do
- 2:14Speaker 2: regards to Maddie is going to try to turn negatives
- 2:17Speaker 2: into positive and shine a positive light on it because
- 2:21Speaker 2: we know families like ours, and we didn't know where
- 2:25Speaker 2: to turn right, Like, the biggest thing in those moments
- 2:28Speaker 2: are you're just scared. You don't know what you don't know,
- 2:31Speaker 2: and the stereotypes out there around down syndrome and whatnot.
- 2:36Speaker 3: You just to go, Okay, what do we do?
- 2:38Speaker 2: And of course then the first thing you do are
- 2:40Speaker 2: handed options if you don't want to proceed right. And
- 2:43Speaker 2: I think for any parent in that situation, it's just
- 2:46Speaker 2: an awful spot to be. And so my wife and
- 2:49Speaker 2: I again going back to wanting to turn everything into
- 2:51Speaker 2: a positive, we're like, okay, what can we do? And
- 2:53Speaker 2: of course you've got a newborn. Our whole focus had
- 2:57Speaker 2: nothing to do with down syndrome at that point. It
- 2:59Speaker 2: was we just want to survive and get through the
- 3:02Speaker 2: heart stuff and then we'll get to the down syndrome
- 3:04Speaker 2: as it goes. And that little girl spent six weeks
- 3:08Speaker 2: in the hospital, we went into eight months and never
- 3:11Speaker 2: came home. Doctor said, Dad, now's a good time to
- 3:14Speaker 2: go home and get stuff because it's going to be
- 3:15Speaker 2: a while, but we got to get that little girl out.
- 3:19Speaker 2: We were there for about six weeks, got to go
- 3:21Speaker 2: home for about four weeks, and then we were right
- 3:23Speaker 2: back in for her first open heart surgery. So we
- 3:27Speaker 2: repeated that cycle twice basically over the next year and
- 3:30Speaker 2: a half. So you can imagine the challenge and just
- 3:34Speaker 2: the emotion with all of that. But that is where
- 3:38Speaker 2: Outwork Elite and where this Mighty Mattie series now really
- 3:42Speaker 2: all started to be born. Because as a dad, I
- 3:45Speaker 2: was just kind of lost and needed to put my
- 3:49Speaker 2: energy somewhere. And it went back to that, like, Okay,
- 3:51Speaker 2: how do we find positive ways to spin this without
- 3:55Speaker 2: knowing what the hell we were doing, to be honest
- 3:57Speaker 2: with you, and so it went started with reaching the
- 4:00Speaker 2: Special Olympics and just saying, hey, how can we get involved.
- 4:04Speaker 2: That would eventually evolve into our outwork Lyad All Star Camps,
- 4:08Speaker 2: which we just hosted our fifth one with them. But
- 4:11Speaker 2: it just also led to different connections in the down
- 4:13Speaker 2: syndrome community, in the CCHD community, and started to hear
- 4:18Speaker 2: the same stories that we were dealing with, right, so
- 4:20Speaker 2: you start to build that.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Community and yet it has just been a.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Roller coaster ever since of trying to find ways to
- 4:29Speaker 2: spread a message, trying to spread the light that Maddie
- 4:32Speaker 2: brings to everybody she meets. Everyone she meets walks away
- 4:36Speaker 2: going they just feel better. And I think you meet
- 4:40Speaker 2: anybody with Down syndrome or a unique ability, you have
- 4:43Speaker 2: that same experience oftentimes, But that's not the message we
- 4:48Speaker 2: often hear. We hear it's hard, we hear there's a
- 4:51Speaker 2: lot of challenges. We hear there's medical issues or or
- 4:55Speaker 2: what is their future going to look like? And it's
- 4:57Speaker 2: just an old stereotype and it needs a be fixed, right,
- 5:01Speaker 2: And so our books, these Mighty Matty books are just
- 5:03Speaker 2: a small part of that of trying to say there's
- 5:06Speaker 2: so much good that comes from having a child with
- 5:09Speaker 2: Down syndrome, having a child with a unique ability, and
- 5:12Speaker 2: let's tell the world how capable they are versus how
- 5:15Speaker 2: uncapable they are. And yeah, that's a little bit of
- 5:18Speaker 2: what we're trying to do with the camps, with the
- 5:20Speaker 2: books and literally anything else we can do to spread
- 5:23Speaker 2: a positive message.
- 5:25Speaker 1: And I mean, that's that's just such a great way
- 5:27Speaker 1: to take this. I mean, you know, like you said,
- 5:30Speaker 1: roller coaster, I think is a great way to describe,
- 5:34Speaker 1: you know, your journey, your your wife's, your your your daughter's,
- 5:39Speaker 1: you know, and all the challenges and emotions that come
- 5:41Speaker 1: through that. But to sit there and have the mind
- 5:44Speaker 1: frame that we're going to take anything that could be
- 5:47Speaker 1: a negative and try to spin it into a positive.
- 5:49Speaker 1: And then also sharing those messages, Like you said, you
- 5:52Speaker 1: were finding that these were conversations other parents were having,
- 5:56Speaker 1: but probably a compartmentalized in many folks, probably feeling the
- 6:01Speaker 1: way you did, you know, alone and unsure. But what
- 6:06Speaker 1: a great way to build a legacy for your daughter
- 6:09Speaker 1: as she's growing older, to look back and see that
- 6:12Speaker 1: her story could be an inspiration for so many folks.
- 6:15Speaker 1: And these books themselves are actually from inspired from actual
- 6:19Speaker 1: events in her life.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Right yeah, yeah, So the first two Mighty Mattie's Big
- 6:23Speaker 2: Game and then Mighty Maddy's Dance Show. The first one
- 6:26Speaker 2: was probably the easiest one to write because it's a
- 6:28Speaker 2: story I had in my head, but like you said,
- 6:30Speaker 2: it's based on real life. Mattie loves basketball. She hasn't
- 6:34Speaker 2: actually played basketball yet, but she's at it all the time,
- 6:37Speaker 2: whether for me or for her big brother. And that
- 6:40Speaker 2: was really where we saw it changing her was watching
- 6:43Speaker 2: her brother play all the time. Next thing you know,
- 6:45Speaker 2: she's picking up a ball around the house or trying
- 6:47Speaker 2: to dribble or wanting to her version was playing catch right,
- 6:50Speaker 2: just rolling it back and forth. Now you fast forward
- 6:53Speaker 2: she was at our camp last month and she's running
- 6:56Speaker 2: up and down the floor and she's into it. So yeah,
- 7:00Speaker 2: the first story was very true. Mattie learned to love
- 7:03Speaker 2: basketball because of her brother and being around all our
- 7:06Speaker 2: guys without work. And similarly, she's gotten involved in dance
- 7:10Speaker 2: because of her big cousin who's an amazing dancer, Kendalyn,
- 7:15Speaker 2: who lives up by us.
- 7:16Speaker 3: She's awesome.
- 7:18Speaker 2: She's a sixth grader as well, so a great role
- 7:20Speaker 2: model for Maddie. The same thing went to her dance
- 7:23Speaker 2: concerts or recitals and Mattie's out in the aisle doing
- 7:27Speaker 2: her thing, trying to keep up with the girls, and
- 7:29Speaker 2: that just stuck. And music's been something really important to
- 7:32Speaker 2: Maddie too, and something that we've hung on to that
- 7:35Speaker 2: it helps us connect with her. I think others would
- 7:39Speaker 2: probably relate that sometimes kids that are nonverbal, and Maddie's
- 7:44Speaker 2: very verbal for where she's at in life, but sometimes
- 7:48Speaker 2: that emotion is hard to describe, and sometimes you can
- 7:50Speaker 2: see it through music or through movements. So yeah, so
- 7:54Speaker 2: that was the second book of Dance one bat the
- 7:57Speaker 2: Christmas one is the first one. I kind of took
- 7:59Speaker 2: some creative leniencies, right, she definitely loves Christmas. She's definitely
- 8:04Speaker 2: into Santa. We look for the elf every morning. But
- 8:08Speaker 2: of course this adventure takes on a little bit more
- 8:10Speaker 2: of an imaginative and creative path, but it still kind
- 8:14Speaker 2: of has that same heart and soul of like, this
- 8:16Speaker 2: is a girl with Down syndrome and a bad heart,
- 8:18Speaker 2: but it's really the magic behind it. And of course
- 8:21Speaker 2: Santa needs a little bit of that magic to help
- 8:23Speaker 2: them along the way to make sure Christmas goes well.
- 8:26Speaker 2: And so tied that in and then what we try
- 8:29Speaker 2: to do or we do at the end of each
- 8:30Speaker 2: book is put in a Down syndrome playbook. Obviously that
- 8:33Speaker 2: was kind of a play on me being a basketball
- 8:35Speaker 2: coach and the first book being a basketball one, but
- 8:38Speaker 2: we kept it as playbook because that's just kind of
- 8:40Speaker 2: the spirit of it, and it just highlights different things
- 8:43Speaker 2: about Down syndrome, and we try to do it in
- 8:45Speaker 2: a fun way, not down you know, we'll say it's
- 8:48Speaker 2: the twenty first, you know, a third copy of the
- 8:50Speaker 2: twenty first chromosome. But we won't just stick with the
- 8:52Speaker 2: scientific facts. We try to put fun things in there
- 8:56Speaker 2: and things they like to do. And so it's it's
- 8:59Speaker 2: meant to be inspiration, it's meant to be fun if
- 9:01Speaker 2: you're just reading it to a kid, but it's also
- 9:03Speaker 2: to be educational too, where kids who may or adults
- 9:07Speaker 2: that haven't been around individuals with Down syndrome as much
- 9:09Speaker 2: and they have that stereotype we talk about, well, they
- 9:12Speaker 2: can read that and go, huh, I didn't maybe realize
- 9:14Speaker 2: all of that. And if it's just one more person
- 9:17Speaker 2: that says like, oh no, this is we haven't looked
- 9:19Speaker 2: at them the right way, and it's a win, right,
- 9:22Speaker 2: And then to be honest with you, to see matt
- 9:25Speaker 2: the way Maddie looks at the books and she's so
- 9:27Speaker 2: proud that that's her and she knows that's her on there,
- 9:29Speaker 2: it's it's a win either way. But but yeah, it's
- 9:32Speaker 2: it's been fun.
- 9:33Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. What's the name of this latest book?
- 9:35Speaker 2: So the latest one is Mighty Mattie's Christmas Adventure, Okay,
- 9:38Speaker 2: and is that out now?
- 9:39Speaker 3: It's out now.
- 9:40Speaker 2: It's available on Amazon and both paperback, and we just
- 9:45Speaker 2: got approved for Kindle last night, so it's available on
- 9:48Speaker 2: Kindle too. If people prefer the e reading route.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Awesome, there you go. All these books over on Amazon.
- 9:55Speaker 1: You've got e reading available, go check them out. These
- 9:58Speaker 1: are these are wonderful stories and from one dad do another.
- 10:01Speaker 1: This is just so cool, Like seriously, I have to
- 10:03Speaker 1: tip my hat to you for you know, for the
- 10:06Speaker 1: mind frame and for the work involved, for you know,
- 10:10Speaker 1: and the love for your daughter and what's pouring into this.
- 10:14Speaker 1: It's awesome. Are you planning on keeping the series going
- 10:17Speaker 1: as she ages?
- 10:18Speaker 3: I hope? Yeah, Yeah, the goals to keep them going. Obviously.
- 10:21Speaker 2: It's been a fun getting the response it has and
- 10:23Speaker 2: people are into you just never know, right, and so
- 10:26Speaker 2: yeah we will. We will do it as long as
- 10:28Speaker 2: I think Maddie will entertain it or others will as well.
- 10:31Speaker 2: We do have another one in the works that we
- 10:34Speaker 2: are probably gonna drop on through twenty one, which is
- 10:38Speaker 2: a world down Syndrome day. But yeah, definitely keep them rolling,
- 10:42Speaker 2: you know. Of course Maddie will somewhat dictate that too.
- 10:46Speaker 2: I want the stories to always kind of follow her
- 10:47Speaker 2: path as well. We'll do fun ones like the Christmas
- 10:50Speaker 2: one hopefully, but I do think it's important to try
- 10:52Speaker 2: to kind of follow her path because she's she's the
- 10:54Speaker 2: inspiration behind it all.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe as she gets older, we'll see one
- 10:58Speaker 1: co authored with Maddie.
- 10:59Speaker 3: I would.
- 11:00Speaker 2: I think that is definitely something that'll happen at some
- 11:03Speaker 2: point too.
- 11:03Speaker 3: And you never know. I think it'd be cool if
- 11:05Speaker 3: you could.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I'm stretching myself now, but turned it into an animated
- 11:09Speaker 2: series someday or something like that. You never know what technology,
- 11:13Speaker 2: but yes, Mattie's involvement, we'll hopefully be there soon.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Well.
- 11:16Speaker 1: I absolutely love it, Josh. Thank you so much for
- 11:20Speaker 1: sharing this with all of our listeners. It's a really
- 11:24Speaker 1: important information, but you're doing it in such a loving
- 11:28Speaker 1: and lighthearted way. It was just always what first grabbed
- 11:32Speaker 1: me about this story, and so I couldn't wait to
- 11:35Speaker 1: have you in the booth when I transitioned from paper
- 11:38Speaker 1: to radio. So thank you so much for coming in, Josh.
- 11:41Speaker 1: We really appreciate it, and I look forward to having
- 11:43Speaker 1: you back again as I'm sure you'll keep these stories going.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Oh well, like I told you before, thank you so much.
- 11:49Speaker 2: You know you helped with the get the article out
- 11:51Speaker 2: there and then having me here today, So it takes
- 11:53Speaker 2: guys like you to help us spread this message.
- 11:55Speaker 3: So very grateful. Hey, no problem,