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Q & A The 60s Part Two · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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Welcome back to hamster with a blunt penknife questions and I'm
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sorry. The 60s part 2 did a little bit,
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did it? Did it?
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What's that? There's some kind of 60s music.
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I've got one prepares. All right, you don't have to say
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you love me just because you're mine, he's not Dusty
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Springfield. That's it.
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Funny enough than the black again.
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She's like, do you know the weight San Jose LOL?
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Anyway, Anyway, 60s. Yes, a great time for music a
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great time for celebrate like a fabulous tired of you experiment
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with drugs and sex, right? Well more questions.
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I'll ask you. Yeah.
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In your teenage years did you experiment with drugs and sex?
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Well, not in like the 60s. You were a teenager in the 60s.
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Are you by? I'm not like they did in the
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60s. Probably tell me you did.
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What's experiment with brother from school you did at the same
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time mostly. Oh, you've heard a pop has no no
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okay anyway but move. All right, first question, I'm
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sorry. I've cut off their name on my
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list here so it is a mystery pedal so sorry it's the
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Incognito. I'm so sorry.
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We will find out how You are, or if you listen to this because
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you say that was me, please. Yeah.
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If you could show, one knew who story to the original creative
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team behind Doctor, Who Verity Lambert, David Whittaker?
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Sydney Newman Hartnell. Which one would you pick?
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I would pick Vincent and the doctor.
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It continued word know. This is what the person says
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what mr. Incognito.
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Yeah. Okay.
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If they would pick Vincent and the doctor he continues that
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aimed to him. Foreman entertain.
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Oh no, Sydney Newman. I would show Demons of the
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Punjab because I think that informs and entertains more
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educates its about the partition of India, the remit of Doctor
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Who was to educate children. Yes I suppose.
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So what do you think he would be?
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Like this is a great script. No I wouldn't put in front of
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worry about although I dread to think what I say that all those
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Indian characters so you know Vincent the doctors are great
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one actually Yeah, that would be just as a side note, you know,
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Mark, I watch this movie the other day, featuring Tony
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Curran, who plays Vincent? It's called Red Road.
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Yeah, and I watched him pick out a woman.
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I mean, it was the most different.
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It was actually his, it was the most explicit heterosexual to
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succeed I've ever seen in my life anyway.
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Okay, so you would show sitting human that whatever already Road
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Nothing. I would probably like to show
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him. If you showed him like kablam he
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be like nuts. I forgot to show him some rely
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on, he goes and doomsday dogs. Who act is high in 2005?
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Oh, just to say this was the meteoric success.
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It hit in the 2000s. What about love and monsters?
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No, by God monster doing here. What's going on now?
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Many? Face monsters, I think Verity
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Lambert and William Hartnell would love Vincent the doctor
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though, I think well. So by all accounts very little
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Amber didn't like the Jon Pertwee era.
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No, she didn't. Did she by all accounts Terrance
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dicks did not like the Steven Moffat era really goes, he was
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always going for the moment instead of, if those never knew
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any Prop Logic, he was always going for the moment, you know.
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And so I it's a tricky business show. showing old production T's
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plus, you know, you've got like in the other direction when it
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by on the sofas Janet field in watching the 70s gun are well,
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and our days, Pete, you know, we came on a lot in the seventh
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place, so I think it, I don't think I would want to do this
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because, oh, no, imagine William Hartnell watching day of the
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doctor say, Oh, he'd love it if you like, pepper.
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Hello. That's me.
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The pilot, the pilot and the room Bill.
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What's this? What's this?
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The gunfighters. Then the fifth doctors fillings
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in and razani what how tenuous link between that I have?
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You got a question about tea from those tooth.
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Well, I mean, the tooth in the gun fires, it's just a gag,
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isn't it? To get him to Tombstone so you
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can have his things? We have hollow.
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Remember what more know, Brian said in the He's the barest
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teeth. It's terrible teeth.
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Yes, and he did have bad teeth. If you have a look at him.
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Yeah, so I think yes, well, do any of that I have doctors are
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bad safe, we don't really get to look at them that close to we
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are you see Tom Baker's a lot. He's got a pretty good set of
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teeth, actually, yes. It has actually.
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Yeah, it's got a best teeth in. Yeah.
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Whoo, Paul McGann. It's got a lot because he, well,
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he's got a nice smile. He has he's got that Liverpool,
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Liverpool team, Liverpool. Though he has, he's got
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Liverpool like the one, like the one I've got here.
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You mean incisors incisor is it? There's a Liverpool in China and
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that's because my family hark back to Liverpool and what when
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we can find the same from Liverpool?
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No! No, but it's a Liverpool thing,
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I think, and Paul mcgann's got the same bit of 24.
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I've got my teeth. Yeah, why it's just me.
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Just my looks so lovely. Oh no, I don't like it.
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Is wait a minute, I don't have it.
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I got it. I was full time.
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I had a three-month affair with a fellow from Columbia, right?
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But I think he added sizes, I don't think he'd come anywhere
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near Liverpool thing. I've, that's what I was told
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anyway. All right, and be closer to when
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we go, okay, all right? And as for a chocolate on me,
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too, sorry, as for Peter Davison.
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Yeah, I know he's had feelings. Did you Andrews on anywhere is
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regenerating on the floor and he's looking up her?
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He's top I think you can see it opens is I think you can see in
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his mouth. Yeah.
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Job. How he's got.
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A tattoo has got a feeling, you know, what other things that the
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doctors have the? We didn't say anything else.
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I got to off. Okay.
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Next question from dr. Nigel Fletcher, is he a doctor
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dr. Nigel flexor.
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Are you a doctor or is this a nickname and you A prescription.
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We now take it for granted that regeneration is a thing, but how
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else would you have written out? Hartnell recasting or some other
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way of introducing, a new lead affect their way they attempted
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to do it in the celestial toymaker that could have worked
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connect. I mean it's not for longevity.
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You whenever you haven't once you kind of in me, the celestial
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toymaker at the end of every era.
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Oh, imagine if that had happened, that would've been
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awful. No.
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See, I think that would have been the Terrible way to say,
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what sort of mind, Robert own. I've done his face wrong thing.
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I don't it just wouldn't it's a very temporary thing.
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It doesn't feel. I don't, you could just do that
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face wrong thing. So I sort of Sylvester McCoy.
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The celestra told me I could be like, Patrick troughton, Oh no,
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I got it wrong but then it to not go back again and just to
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carry on. It was a really clever way of
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doing it then. I mean like, the land of
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fiction. I don't know how, I don't know
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how else regeneration is such a great idea because it's all of
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though, the same it's the same person inside, it's the same
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memories, it's the same, everything else and you couldn't
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do that with. I don't know if you just brought
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in as a know his brother or his son or something to take over.
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It just wouldn't work in that way.
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Would it? Well shit.
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You've got it like a snake. You cut it off and I loved one
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comes out like grows Anew. Yeah.
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I couldn't really realize that only six days.
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I just, I don't, I don't know. I just couldn't think of any
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other way of doing it, right. Yeah.
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What you literally just change it and you do not reference it
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at all. The way thing is you just carry
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On and nobody else notice just the audience, as if it's a
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different acne are like, favors, like in neighbors, or you go and
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see a play and the, it's the understudy instead of you just
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carry on without and you just don't reference it at all mate.
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Nothing to do it. Go on.
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Theater and the the highlight of the day was Lisa got off star of
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terminus and Stephen Pacey, who was a star of my many of my wet
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dreams. As a child, what Headliners they
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were. They were the stars were goes in
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right archive off to the Loo. This is this pair mark, an aphid
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whispering in the auditorium. When I come out, I'm like,
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what's going on, then I'll nothing.
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Huh. In bacame both of them,
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indisposed. I know.
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But those signs that we went into the theater, so that they
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wouldn't be on tonight. And you were so excited.
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I can barely tell you that they were gonna be there.
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So, here when the current, what am I posting?
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Killer still funny. I've got to tell you, it's not
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going to be there, but I couldn't do it, and you didn't
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take any notice all the signs around.
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The whole theory. Of course, you didn't see them.
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So, you had no idea. I was like, I started and it's
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supposed to be losing. Got obviously page.
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Ahmed Ali so-called hot? No no.
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Fortunately it was a very good player.
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Relatively speaking by Alan ayckbourn.
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Anyway, very, very good. No, I think you could beat
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regeneration. You're right, you're right.
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It's her office apart from doing the neighbors.
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Remember Libby. Kennedy Ethel, Libby, Libby,
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Kennedy in diapers. Yeah, she changed for like three
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weeks and she said Rex isn't went under the water, when she
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came back up again, different actress.
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And then one day she was just the other actress again, always
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that how they got. I don't know how it did it.
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Yeah, and then something else happened and she's got a face
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back again, and then you better. Well, wonderful Doctor, Who
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joke, they did a sketch where she went to Holland, you want to
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tell us something. I'm just looking through the old
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albums, you seem to have changed your face.
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She goes well Doctor Who does it all the time.
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Anyway. Okay.
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Secret, Squirrel asks secret scroll.
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Yeah, I bet he knows a few Secrets should Could the
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production team have done more to make Katarina work?
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I think Jamie and Victoria prove, you can do a historical
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companion and error mem and Charlie Paul old.
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Yes. But Katarina was like a couple
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of other no thousand years before at least or something.
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I don't know my history. I should know what the
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astonishing thing is, is adriene Hill is clearly game for a
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laugh. As we said we have surgery
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greatly but then I know, but like if she didn't allowed to
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play with a bit of humor, instead, she's all of that.
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Isn't she? You know, we'll never reach the
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place of perfection. Yeah, all of that.
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Yeah, you couldn't have that. The Wise One couldn't have that
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the whole time could Oh, not with her talking.
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That sort of pitching day long. I don't, its master plan, 12
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episodes of all amazing Fantastical things, you've got
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mice, flying around in space. You got people on trampolines,
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you got invisibility. People couldn't something along
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those lines, you can she absorb some, Dalek energy or something
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from the space security service to got some make us, she had
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ended up with a brain and Sarah Kingdom or something and was
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suddenly a an age, they could have been ways of doing it,
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couldn't there. You could have few much
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together. Uh, sorry Kingdom and Katarina
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to make SAR Arena, a by-product of the time Destructor.
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When she was on that penal Planet, she could have got
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something and being what made intelligent or something like
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that when she got. Did she get electrocuted or
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something on that spaceship on the way, someone was going to
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happen to her, and then when they call Bonnie, she actually
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accidentally touched the turanian more.
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Got some trained him inside her. And suddenly she's Superwoman,
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they could go onto the ark and he will say hello.
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By good people. And these are my companions
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Steven? I'm sorry, Noah, I thought sure.
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We also, we also have they I think it's.
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Yeah. They could have done something
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to make her work for sure. Yeah.
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I think you could make any character work if you put in a
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bit of effort and it's, and it's not like, you know, stuff that
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they did with dodo and other characters from week to week
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that completely change their their mind or their accent all
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their attitude. It's not like they were really
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keeping an Zion character stuff. So it's not like, they'll be
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like, oh, we can't do that with the carry.
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Why suddenly with Katerina or you can't change the character
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and she can't change his. When everybody else changes from
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week to week, they do the Jamie thing, wouldn't they have having
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her asking all these questions for about three stories?
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And then just suddenly taking it all in her stride.
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She could have learned country. Yeah, and I do think edge around
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here would have been a great. Oh then we would have lost Jack
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Elaine. And you know what fun to come
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around to your way of thinking. Dodo.
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You know, she's actually quite far.
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She is yeah. Oh.
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So best scenes, dodos. Anything that's not Celestial.
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Toymaker, what? Any story I loved her in the
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Savages where she goes, wandering off down all the
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corridors, poking, her nose in and flour and water, paste going
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to do exactly. And the Ark she's pretty in the
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arc. Yeah, choice, you face up to the
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model, isn't she? What is it?
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And I'm Calamity Jane. I'm when she's with Doc Holiday
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Travel. Said, you played the doctor?
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Did you play the piano? I'll give it a bash, I think,
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your pardon, but then you can change.
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You know, Katarina can be up for up for a passion, the gunfight.
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It's could she so you'd have to change a few things here and
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there with, right? So different, I suppose you
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would have those. It's not like you have to also
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companion to play piano every week, so give it out, you know,
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Peter pervez went for all those other female blue P, represent
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us. I dread to think either have
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more opportunities to Bogdan through companions.
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Yes, I'm actually know you could write it through.
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She could be like no but I've played the Athenian loot, plenty
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of whatever. I don't know and then she would
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have done something like that, you know, the aphelion look
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whatever. I don't know.
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Instruments back in Greek times, but she would have played
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something. I can't do it, dude.
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Exactly. Sigh fly.
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High fly. High fly a lot.
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Another side. So I fly says hottest.
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I sigh fine, hottest character of the 60s was copy, Steven.
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Surely that, you think? All right.
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You think Jerry in the, my robot underwater man is.
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Oh, yeah, that lever. Yeah, okay.
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Will do man and woman because that's fair.
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I think the I think the hottest weather that's why I drew out
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time when you did cosplay, a Stephen when we did the chase
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commentary for oh yeah. You too, man was a fusion of
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you. And Stephen.
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So hottest thing I've ever seen in my life.
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So I say Stephen. Yeah.
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Okay, yeah, yeah. And obviously, I think it's
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probably got to be Lovely Lashes Polly.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Okay. And the others will guest
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characters any other one feels in the 60s was sex on legs.
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Any other one-offs? Oh what I've cared?
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What I first thought, stunningly beautiful.
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I'm sure there's some out us from keys of marinus yet
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marvelous lakes near 0 from the robot.
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You think of the 60s as the sexiest Sarah of Doctor Who, you
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know, there's some I'm sure there is only missing anybody.
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I'm sure I'm sure you could find one person every story.
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She's going Faria Faria, Miss Kelly, Kelly Kelly, she's pretty
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beautiful. Yeah, we're not too, sure that
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one okay, Milo can see this is from Daniel rawnsley.
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Oh, Daniel rawnsley, yes, he's a new hamster.
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Extra subscriber, I don't know. Well, He says you and guests
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have spoken, many times about the revisionist and a
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disprovable fan wisdom that Miss remembers William hartnell's
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doctor as always being a grumpy old chauvinist, get do you think
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a comparable similar misconception exists around
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Patrick troughton's doctor what beta grumpy gears?
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Always, he misremembered. Yeah.
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Is he missed remembered as this cat away?
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Why did I question there also? Are you sure I ever said those
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things? That's a very intelligent
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questions like this. So he's remembered as a grumpy
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old get, well, actually, he's very Charming.
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Yeah. So what about these has
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something comparable, misconception?
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I mean, he's always like, yes, Cosmic hobo this though, badly.
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It's true because everyone remembers Chaplin as this really
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And of very funny and Charming doctor and he was bloody hell,
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you murders a load of ice Warriors?
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I mean the fella I'd get some into the Tomb of the Cybermen.
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He's a little bit dangerous you know some grumpy moments as
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well. Connie yeah but he's kind of
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anarchic in quite a dangerous way I think as well.
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So you're saying he's not sort of silly and I think he'll make
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as he's remembered as being overtly comic but he's got a lot
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of age and I think that's what people forget.
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There's so much to Patrick troughton's performance.
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True. It is true.
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You can I do that? You can just put that one.
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Whereas I can see when people look at William, Harley you
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watch any William Hartnell episode and there's gonna be a
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right moment, you know? I mean like a grumpy moment,
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whereas with Patrick troughton, a whole episode, a different
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episode, you can have all sorts of different things.
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You can't really pinpoint it down to one thing, okay?
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I'm going to ask you if there are timing moments with the
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market, this is a really terrific.
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I've never I've ever heard this house before, who's better off
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playing comedy? Hartnell or trout.
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Mm. Oh, they're both.
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So good at very different styles.
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I actually think hartnell's funnier, but trout and is more
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consistently good at playing comedy lie.
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Hartnell's hartnell's lightly that Baseline.
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Deliveries are just Supply where we go.
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When it goes. Well, it goes, well, this is
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that massive to from the gun fires again?
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I don't think that's a very subtle form of advertising, do
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you? Yeah, a little girl.
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Of milk to Delight. It is funny.
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They are both so different. I don't think I could but then
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one or the other. Do you remember that bit in the
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wall? Goes is like how dare you treat
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me like this? I'm the examiner from the war
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office. This this young Marcus by
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circuitry. So yeah I think he is slightly
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misremembered as just being overly comic when he's actually
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a bit sinister. Okay, Hannah Cooper.
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Oh she's coming on as soon, you know, do a common trunk
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Ghostlight, very good. Can't wait to meet you.
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Well she asks which story is too long and which story is too
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short. Man, these people are so small
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with their questions about my, we stories too long.
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I wish somebody would say the war games by wouldn't lose.
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The second, I think it's a little bit.
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Like, you could lose a couple. I think.
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I said this last time, I'm okay, runarounds.
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I'm kind of suggests the invasion, which I love lost
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about something does well, but yes, those first four episodes
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assortment don't even appear. I always think of it as a six
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years. Forget it.
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Say isn't it? Yeah.
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Say I think it could probably be 5.
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Hmm. And you talk condense it down
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back and I want we want to lose. March was too short them.
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The Mind dropper to show his five episodes play a short
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episode. So it might as well be a full
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partner is a for. It could be a six-part.
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I mean run. I mean I'm going to contradict
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what I literally just said by could have more running around
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with the land of fiction. Yeah.
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No problem. Who else from you your literary
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books? He read books as a child.
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Yes. Who else would you have in the
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land of fiction? Well, who would they have?
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Who would they have at the time? What about Enid blyton's?
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Fame. S5.
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Yes, I could do Keri Russell could appear.
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Yeah. The females Ferb, do they have
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in the 60s? He was famous in the 60s, so
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it's people from literature. So what about that?
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Robin Hood or something? Yeah.
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Robin Hood will because it would be.
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Yeah. But your side George.
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It's too Dreadful to be poor. It's only Charles.
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Dickens people in there, you put some Charles.
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Dickens characters. Odd Martin chuzzlewit.
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Now what was the one we watch mr.
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Pickwick. Oh yeah.
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Mr. Pickwick would be like that companion.
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You can only be played by Nigel stock, every was amazing.
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It's like different from Professor hater wasn't a from
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time fighting believe it was the same person.
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He was so Charming as mr. Pickwick is that the and
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annoying as hater Terrance? Dicks script editing?
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Yeah. Really annoying.
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If we always absolutely love it. Yeah.
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The production value on that thing.
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Hmm. With the prison cells are for.
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They got to a real prison, it was sets anyway.
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We also question I, which one's too short.
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Yeah. What would you say to short?
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A couple of two parts? There, I wouldn't say Planet
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jars is too short, all the rescue I think rescues.
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Perfect length, or Esther, Esther destructions.
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Probably a bit too long one episode, couldn't it.
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I mean, I've got to be really selfish and say I could add an
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extra episode to the Romans, just because I think that is so
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sublimely, written another episode of like comedy, hijinks
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and witty lines from Dennis Buna.
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I would absolutely love but you Okay, next question from David
23:25
G. David Juju?
23:27
Juju caused by an apple strict Victory.
23:29
Day g-g-gee pushed by no stop. Do you think doctor who lost a
23:35
bit of its innocence, by the end of the 60s with the exile to
23:40
Earth? It's saw the end of the
23:41
happy-go-lucky random time travel getting into scrapes and
23:45
having fun. I think the show started to lose
23:48
his innocence in the season three.
23:51
When you had Alex master plan, and the massacre, and the
23:54
mythmakers, and the gunfighters, which all end in like massacres
23:59
basically, and even harder was saying, wasn't either.
24:03
Oh, there's there's evil encroaching in the show.
24:06
It's a bit melodramatic, but I see what he's saying.
24:09
It's gone away from being just adventures in time and space
24:12
with a good moral into something.
24:15
A lot darker. I think it gets a bit lighter
24:18
again, and travel this time, like, there's, there's horror
24:20
stories. But I don't think it has
24:23
anything as Bleak as those endings in any other trials
24:26
stories. So, I think it does lose his
24:29
innocence and then it games it again.
24:32
Well put. Thank you.
24:34
Okay. James h-he's got three for us.
24:39
Three questions. Yeah.
24:41
James age. You tax our brains?
24:44
Hey, I'm gonna slap them all at you.
24:48
Okay, so number one, number one, Given how much yellow-faced it
24:54
is in Marco. Polo old, I knew someone was
24:57
going to do this, it's all and left as Audio Only.
25:01
I mean, how do we know? No, I thought I don't think that
25:05
I'll just say this that tonight Mark and I watched what was it
25:08
called? One of our dinosaurs is missing
25:10
one of our daughters missing which has Peter Ustinov stuff in
25:15
the, some of the worst Chinese makeup I've ever seen in my life
25:19
and his little psychic as Comedy Chinese buffoon saw talents are
25:24
wearing triang esque racism. Now, I'll say this bloody
25:29
hilarious, because what your nose nannies doing Kung Fu
25:31
Fighting was very funny and that dinosaur going through the town,
25:34
but it was a bit troubling. Maybe, maybe.
25:38
Yes, I still want to see Mark. I'm desperate to see it.
25:42
Do I think there is a contingent of Doctor Who fans that will say
25:45
refuse to watch it on the grounds that it is incredibly
25:48
racist? It's racist too strong.
25:50
A word is Wallace about words, we yes I think it is I think
25:55
because it wouldn't be done today but I know but if we're
25:58
looking at a piece of historical, but none of those
26:00
characters in Marco, Polo are taking fun of the the culture is
26:04
respected, you know, John. I mean it's not but there's a
26:08
lot of sort of its time. Yeah you can't change history
26:14
that I've done. You saw that bit where and where
26:17
he plays backgammon with Kublai Khan.
26:19
Yes. So what did you win?
26:21
In William Hunter goes the entire wealth of Burma for one
26:25
year so maybe. Yeah, okay, yeah, let's change
26:35
the subject, okay. It's very upset about this,
26:38
which fully existing 60-story would actually look better.
26:42
As an animation, all the celestial toymaker and we've
26:47
seen proof recently and that fabulous.
26:51
Stars, that's what anime style, are some really creepy and
26:56
Sinister and sort of having any of us all version of that.
27:02
That was his. That's fantastic.
27:03
Yeah. But who's the fella who ever you
27:05
created? That ran job because you brought
27:08
that story to life and yusei's. Can you just move your feet a
27:11
second? Why?
27:12
Because the floors electric and you'll be killed Yeah.
27:23
But I mean, yeah, that last episode that survives of the
27:26
toymaker, I mean, is a page. Renown, you could do so much
27:30
with it and I don't think anyone would mind if you did, although,
27:34
you know what was that podcast? Missing episodes podcast.
27:37
Yeah, fabulous have a sudden. So, I just wanna make it.
27:40
Would you recommend you recently?
27:41
I was very good. Mmm, check out the missing
27:43
episodes podcast people. And number three, Given the
27:48
doctor has met the Cybermen before in the 10th planet.
27:57
Luna is a reference in the temple and he just knows that
28:00
the planets come in, doesn't he? Oh, okay, he knows the plan.
28:04
He knows what further emitting before and I just asked you at
28:12
the doctor's met the Cybermen before Tenth Planet, which
28:15
companions did he meet them with?
28:16
Yeah, I didn't realize that. I can realize I've ever seen
28:19
know what about it? We can do with Susan, probably
28:23
after they left the planet, quintus grandfather.
28:33
Save me, take my child, you belong to a squad.
28:39
Robot, who shall be like, okay. It smells like, those were
28:47
three, fantastic questions. Absolutely, yeah.
28:49
Why have you not been on a house for a blunt penknife before?
28:53
Another question from Fraser Gregory, go on other than season
28:58
6, which 60 season. Do you most want to see released
29:02
as a collection box set next? And what special features would
29:06
you like to see on it season six?
29:08
I want to say season 6 episode. I think there's more obsessive
29:16
five now. Oh man, can you measure enemy in
29:19
the world that fabulous location?
29:21
Work in episode 1. Polished up on Blu-ray.
29:25
Yeah, I Income as Prime Barry. Let's write their season three
29:31
with all the master plan stuff. A big documentary about that.
29:36
Yeah, a whole thing about the life of a veteran here would be
29:39
nice. I'll just be a special features.
29:42
We want. Yeah.
29:43
Well I want to see all the behind the sofa is, of course,
29:45
some animated Celestial toymaker.
29:48
I would like to see the crew side need to season to remade
29:51
though because I want to see The Crusade with animated episodes
29:55
season two's already. A out, you know they got a guy
29:57
again I can't fire everyone else by it you know a lovina by copy
30:01
for everyone. On the DVDs that they did do
30:04
quite a good job on covering season 3 in the behind the
30:07
scenes stuff. There's quite some good tool
30:09
commentary' already so don't know why I should be able to do.
30:11
There's a lot of one isn't there.
30:12
So one probably 11 with Marco Polo and amazing.
30:17
I can go and drag that out that dickheads basement.
30:20
Whoever's got it. Sorry you shut up, put our
30:24
Blu-rays, no way. About Philip Morris.
30:26
All right, let's cut this out night next.
30:35
I'll sacrifice it. Also will see someone, although
30:37
this season 6, but you wouldn't let me say that.
30:40
Okay, so we've got a question from Joe lewallen.
30:47
What, if I pronounced that wrong?
30:48
I think I think is right. He's doing the commentary
30:50
saying, you know. Yeah, well actually he's got a
30:53
couple of questions, he's American.
30:54
So I'm going to Do an American accent for this one.
30:57
That's cow if Susan regenerated in the 70s 80s 90s and 2000's
31:04
who would play her almighty God. Okay.
31:08
Well that's a very interesting question so I'm going to answer
31:11
that for you, who's that? Well, I mean, first of all let's
31:20
just say her rather she's regenerated so we can get
31:23
someone in who can fucking act. Seven is Susan.
31:28
Wow, oh God about Wendy Richards from.
31:32
Are you being so? That's all.
31:33
Yeah, seventies Wendy Richard that's harm Lord.
31:39
Okay. Wherever Wendy riches for the
31:41
70s. My name is a is what of
31:44
obviously is that fellow who played fella that woman who paid
31:48
Norman are from Leslie Dunlop? Right.
31:52
Did you know, Sarah May to December.
31:54
She's a fantastic actress yet. She's 80s.
31:57
Okay. 90s. Oh, dear.
31:59
So, when that sort of exciting genre TV period where it's gonna
32:04
be Chloe, Annette clarinet from Patrol crime, traveler.
32:09
Yes, yeah. And the 2000's lies bit hard to
32:14
be Clarion are got you to someone from the 2000s.
32:19
Who's around to see thousands? A lot of people actually do a
32:22
stunt cast whatever just like I can't remember a single shot.
32:29
Anybody who's going to be that same kind of Carolyn Ford Enos?
32:40
Or is it going to be someone completely different over here
32:44
wacky backy and just let you say cuz there's only one story You
32:49
know you get someone fabulous in like Maggie Smith or Judi Dench
32:54
young. I'm trying to think of the young
32:56
guys from yelling. All right, from that Phoebe will
32:59
a bridge. Yeah, go from Chloe and are
33:04
Wendy Richards into his eighties.
33:08
Lazy done. Lawrence into Chloe, an air into
33:11
Phoebe, will a bridge. I mean, Susan, you've had some
33:15
fascinating faces. Okay, here's another question.
33:20
Wait, then you could do the five Susan's and bring them all
33:23
together and they would how acts Carol afford ten to one would
33:28
make his other question. Who had better drugs?
33:34
The writer of the celestial toymaker.
33:37
All the Mind robber that my drawbar is fucked up.
33:42
That one in there, I love the mines rubber, it is still scares
33:45
me to death. Is that bit where they get
33:47
trapped in that massive book and it shots on them.
33:50
I think he's really scary. Great moment, are they all are
33:54
really great, aren't they? I don't think the celestial
33:58
toymaker is not particularly imaginative.
34:00
It's basically will its place party games, you know, move its
34:03
noisy called doesn't work school when you get up and go and
34:06
different chairs, musical chairs, I thought basically
34:12
playing that, I want to play the game one day, guys, I'll move
34:16
2015. You're like my games, dr.
34:29
No, the boys for a more imaginative, isn't it?
34:32
Yeah, that module saw would you suck Off?
34:38
Remove, Katie McBain doesn't exist anymore.
34:44
Buying those people coming at me about that since telling
34:48
everyone is telling me the same thing he invented Inspector
34:51
Morse I had on my own. Okay.
34:57
Next question. From Andy Parkinson?
34:58
Yeah, which is the best story that has been animated so far,
35:07
which is the best story that has been an amazing.
35:08
I bought. I think, Mac or tetra.
35:11
Well, it got a bit of stick, didn't it?
35:13
Because it's changed quite a lot.
35:14
It's the one that changed most donors.
35:17
Would you think it's okay for that stuff to change?
35:20
I do I think if you can make it more accessible to the audience
35:23
now, putting Carla make it look visually stunning, do it.
35:27
It's going to upset some of the hardcore fans who are going to
35:29
be peripatetic about it. But though I it's like putting
35:34
the CGI effects on the original Star Trek episodes.
35:36
I know you can have these Puris out there saying that you should
35:39
only have them as they were. If you can widen the audience of
35:44
these things that aren't going to think it's a bit Pony because
35:47
it looks good. Happy days.
35:50
No. Yeah, I think so.
35:53
I think it's funny, like, if you're from the deep, with the
35:54
bigger sets and everything and okay, they changed all that
35:57
helicopter, stuff and everything, but it doesn't
35:59
matter because it's still the story.
36:01
It's still sticking to the soundtrack and you've got the
36:05
amazing Telly snap versions. If you want the pure stuff
36:08
you've got the Telly snaps good old drunk cure.
36:12
I can't help it. It's been all that time.
36:19
Taking those snapshots of Polly and been getting their rubdowns
36:24
in the macro Tara I know. And then they didn't and there
36:28
he is. Clever little things on for a
36:30
second, you know, we don't know control and we must obey, let
36:35
them know, let them know. I don't know.
36:39
Let them know. We're happy.
36:43
Well, this is gay. Next question, from Daniel
36:47
night, Daniel night. You are a beautiful man.
36:51
Should they have axed? The pure historical stories
36:54
know, By the definitive answer. Now, even after the Highlanders
37:00
eyes, I never remember anything about the Highlanders.
37:03
I don't think. Wow, it's a tough one to get
37:06
through. On the Telly snaps.
37:07
I think, I think trout and should have had maybe one a
37:11
year. One.
37:13
Good historical year. It would have been good to have
37:17
one in a bit later on. What do we have?
37:19
We didn't really have that, just none.
37:21
No, I'm just trying to think what's anything even with a bit
37:24
of his like Nothing really like that was their trout needed a
37:28
massacre. Yeah, you know, I do plenty of
37:32
that probably people died in Australia, rack, Ambassador
37:35
historical. Yeah but that's not it's a
37:44
little bit different I don't think of that as a historical
37:48
actually talking about troubling you know racial things or they
37:51
made all the characters Oriental in the animation.
37:54
Are you trying to suggest? I shouldn't have done that.
37:57
They might change it. Like I said, of people with
37:59
Dreadful makeup, but it was like, genuinely oriented people
38:02
in there. It would have been good to have
38:04
a pure story called with Zoe in. Yeah, and she has to die dress
38:09
in rags or something for once. We had be like a reign of terror
38:15
or something and you go historical.
38:18
We're actually it's Jamie that knows more than Zoe.
38:23
Oh yes yeah or it's like it's a war setting.
38:29
Big finish one, the Glorious Revolution where it's some the
38:32
squish Revolution I come out whoever was very good.
38:36
This is only one show where he knows more.
38:40
It would have been a nice reversal, wouldn't it?
38:41
Because whenever we go to the Future, Zoe knows everything and
38:44
Jamie's for trying to catch up whereas to spend that on its
38:47
head, would have been really fun and it's just something they
38:51
make historical is extremely well.
38:53
And I just think it's a shame really that But we're not
38:57
playing to the BBC strengths. Hmm.
39:00
I mean, even if it was like, the 20s or something like that, we
39:04
never had anything like that, where it was and even if you
39:06
decide what I'm sorry, has a flapper.
39:08
Can you imagine I know? Ba, ba, ba ba the little bit.
39:13
That's a chop some, by the way, I should be amazing.
39:18
Isn't this topping quite topping?
39:23
But if you just had one historical a year, yeah, I I
39:26
don't think it would then the rains too much because it will
39:29
be surrounded by all those monster tells still.
39:32
Okay. Just stop at the to boring-ass
39:34
stories from five and six. So what's really boring and
39:36
five? I think the eyes were as a bit
39:39
boring swap out that for a historical but a fun one and
39:44
swap out the dominators from Series 6, fighting Gregory
39:48
coming after me now. Well speaking of Razor has got
39:51
another question. Go on.
39:54
Why are there no monsters other than Alex and Cybermen in the
39:57
first doctors. Era worth bringing back.
40:04
That's a really good question. That's a really good question.
40:08
First of the first board or the mechanoids.
40:16
Well, I think mechanoids are out there and I think they should
40:19
have come back. Imagine again, mechanoids, and
40:21
Daleks master plan. You could have had an episode
40:23
there. Yeah.
40:25
Why did we see dn6 again? Yeah, the DNC oh that's bright
40:30
for our John Pertwee story, isn't it?
40:32
I thought I thought I was done with that wretched.
40:35
Path is shrink it down. Jon Pertwee kids, could you
40:42
imagine? Yes, dr.
40:43
We're just off to a launch of this new product.
40:46
That unit is keeping an eye on dn6.
40:49
Leave me alone, bring it out. What did you say?
40:52
Come back here. I think I've been sunk again Joe
40:56
stay away from that. Would laugh.
41:21
Take out that dung beetle after the make up some great stories
41:27
and he's cured as you know. But no, I'm trying to think of
41:30
anything else Ford's quillian know, it was the only thing that
41:39
they all three as far as it goes with nothing to memorable
41:43
monsters wise. I mean, I'd love them to do
41:45
this. I'll be Now and CGI.
41:47
God, no, but turnt of all is, I mean, I did that that big finish
41:51
story and I was just the same thing.
41:53
Yeah, but there are but nowadays, I could do it
41:55
incredibly well with CGI, the war machines, Patrick troughton
42:00
quite big cardboard boxes on my that's just bollocks.
42:03
Mmm, I do think the ones that came back in Patrick transform,
42:07
the yeti the ice Warriors. They're also a vivid shapes,
42:10
aren't they? And they've all got a hook, you
42:13
know, robot abominable snowmen. And Reptilian ice creatures
42:18
since rights. That you just said that.
42:21
So, you are talk about that Dreadful sensor, right audio
42:25
from Susan's War, Mark, and I sat on Louis Platt station
42:29
Platform, One dreary afternoon with piss and rewriting, and the
42:34
only thing that could make it worse, was Susan's war from Big
42:36
finish star in the sense of Rights.
42:40
So boring anyway, wasn't it? Yeah.
42:45
Oh, I'm trying to find out we get along questions.
42:48
Well, that's what we need. In the end.
42:50
Come on. What we gonna do.
42:54
Okay, another one from frasor. Oh no, we've had that one
42:57
already. Sorry.
43:02
We might have said this last time, I can't remember, I'm
43:04
going to say, again, always one the ongoing success of Doctor
43:08
Who owes more to Dennis Spooner than anyone else in the 60s if
43:13
not longer discuss. Yeah, I agree.
43:17
Well I think I think his initial success belongs to David
43:21
Whittaker, who script editor the first season.
43:24
But I think the nuts and bolts of Doctor Who The Comedy, which
43:28
I really think is an important factor a doctor.
43:30
The first series I'm very funny, but the second series is really
43:34
funny. You know, oh, by the way, dr.
43:37
I think I poisoned Caesar Nero Caesar Nero stop.
43:41
Yeah. Series 2 is very funny.
43:44
Is that? Yeah.
43:46
Years all in a Chase and I think he reinterpreted hardness
43:54
character what? Who Archie is making that shelf.
44:08
Yeah, but no one just saying that's all of The Adventurous,
44:10
Spirit of the show, moving away from it being a bit sort of
44:14
dictatorial and A tional and making it an adventure cereal
44:18
with a very Charming lead. And lots of humor, which is kind
44:22
of what doctor who becomes. That's the thing.
44:24
Everyone's says, oh it was started out as an educational
44:28
program. I cannot think of one moment
44:31
where as ever that educational Marco Polo that it's God's will
44:36
but it didn't start off as an unearthly child.
44:40
And I don't know it's just I felt like it never actually was
44:46
Yeah, well not to make fire episode 1.
44:50
Here's how to make fire Kids, episode to keep out a radiation,
44:55
keep away from radiation. You do learn about radiation in
44:58
the Daleks you learn or you learn a lot of historical facts
45:01
in Makkah and the Aztecs you learn a shit ton about the
45:04
Aztecs all their cultures and traditions.
45:07
I suppose when you are, my dear could be, have a special
45:11
significance, you know. Yes I shall prepare as a drink
45:14
immediately but Snot like a schools as I do.
45:19
I'm thinking of the schools but you know like three dragons lie
45:21
or bad your girl or whatever. It's not like that.
45:23
Is it? Imagine if it was those imagine
45:26
search outside the mother round and up + fire.
45:46
What you've been watching as a child but it's explaining a lot
45:48
mate. Susan is on Earth today.
45:56
Today I've got previously on Doctor Who we were trying to
46:04
make fire in the cave of skulls children.
46:09
Can you remember how to do this and F and K weaving?
46:16
Next question please. Well, this isn't a question.
46:19
It's just a comment that Lisa mearkle put on our cool.
46:23
Just to say, well, she was saying that she loves to wear
46:25
Planet. The protons dominate is and the
46:28
underwater Menace. Oh, she's like it all the Duds
46:31
and she was also said, she doesn't mind that 60s who looks
46:35
and occasionally soundstage e. She Likes teach some of it
46:40
immediacy of it. And it reminds her of a
46:42
theatrical performance or that was an interesting comment and
46:45
it is Great, that's what what's, what's happening about Hazard?
46:48
She's got very smart things to say, Lucy McColl, you know, and
46:52
like you. She does reappraise these
46:56
stories that are considered Clunkers, you know, and gives
46:59
them a lot of love. Did you know, you don't listen
47:01
to mine anymore, did you? She did a fantastic.
47:04
I'd warm and his commentary and I we were going into the life
47:09
and psychology or professors are off, right?
47:12
Yeah hmm. Yeah he's brilliant, any more
47:15
questions? Because in the last 10 minutes,
47:17
I've got some questions for you. What?
47:18
This is last one from Frasier. I can't remember.
47:20
I don't think we did this last time.
47:22
Okay, snog. Marry or leave at the edge of
47:25
the lake of mutations. Okay.
47:28
Then Jamie Stephen. Okay.
47:38
Snog, marry okay. I'll marry Stephen.
47:42
Yeah, you know, because I feel as if you'd be a stalwart fellow
47:45
every day, but I don't believe and I cannot believe that you've
47:49
done. That, that's just be me taking
47:51
our trousers. I would snoke been because I,
47:58
you know, I've always wanted to start a company and I'll have to
48:03
leave Jamie on the edge of the mutations.
48:04
To be sucked off. No, I fucked away.
48:09
Are you? It's probably the same sad and
48:15
poor Jamie. And he was wearing that
48:17
wonderful top from the Mind. Robin is kind of the Rocks.
48:20
I'm in the wrong question. I think so that was all the ones
48:26
I could find on the thread. There was probably some there
48:28
but I haven't gone. Okay, so I'm just going to
48:31
quickly dip through 60 stories, okay.
48:35
And I want us to just have a very quick sort of summation of
48:39
how we feel about them. Okay.
48:40
Yeah, okay, submariners. Why don't people like that more?
48:45
I think is an absolute classic. It's a fun adventure going from
48:51
world to World different episodes.
48:53
Some great ideas with Barbara in episode 2, with the default,
48:57
almost being raped know when she's in the when she meets
49:00
Altos. And, but even the way that it's
49:03
filmed it, I mean, the idea is great that she that they're
49:07
seeing different things that she can.
49:09
Yeah. But the technicality of it.
49:11
Yeah, way that it's filmed as How is brilliant.
49:14
You know, I think some of the sort of plots within each
49:18
episode or a bit simple because it's adventure of the week.
49:21
You watch it one week and then they're off to somewhere else
49:23
the next week. It's part of the fun.
49:24
So you turn your travel dial and pop your off.
49:28
Sometimes, you're off to a head. I'll see you in two episodes.
49:36
Okay, well, that was a rousing defense.
49:38
I didn't realize we're going to start off to the store.
49:40
Stop the chase. Oh, that'll God.
49:43
You say to my face. What is this the comedy in it?
49:54
I know everyone's like, oh, Richard mind directly really
49:57
badly, it's really clunk. Oh, it doesn't matter.
49:59
I don't care that there's cameras in the background of the
50:01
forest, only, when people point out either, I don't care that
50:04
Frankenstein, though. That a Dalek appears in
50:07
Frankenstein's thing before the Daleks even land.
50:09
It doesn't matter. It's fun.
50:12
It's Besides, when Vicki, when I first watched that and Vicki got
50:16
left behind, I was like, I'm gonna call this, is our last
50:18
story. That's how she leaves.
50:20
I have no idea. It's time for another quick
50:22
sing-songy. Ready to do
50:37
a lot in episode 1. So I'm going to say the Savages.
50:43
Underrated and unfabulous, isn't it?
50:46
I think it's got what for me. It's the music.
50:49
I'll just think it's got this really unusual, win-win School,
50:53
sorry. Woodwind score is, got a
50:56
fabulous sort of morally, upright.
51:00
Hartnell performance in episodes. 1 & 2 dodos, fabulous.
51:04
I'm peeling. The mysteries of the elders.
51:08
I think if this one was found, it would be utterly reappraised.
51:12
I'm going to give you a hickey. Evil of the Daleks are boy.
51:17
I think, evil of the Daleks probably was the best-looking
51:20
story of trans time. I from the Telly snaps and from
51:24
the animation that they've done where they've used the Telly
51:26
snaps I think, Derek Martinez is Direction was probably about a
51:31
stylish, is a God and the fact that it covers present and then
51:37
history and then future it. Don't it basically is one of
51:41
those rare do erhu stories that covers all of the ground of the
51:45
show in one. Brilliant characters, allow sir.
51:49
Oh, you did have a party last night didn't?
51:51
Yeah, I think it's Sublime. I've really do.
51:55
I don't think it runs our statement.
51:56
Has got a big epic ending and the Dalek Emperor.
52:00
Oh boy it's amazing. Web of fear.
52:04
I like the river through a lot but I preferred the enemy the
52:08
world. When it came back I thought the
52:10
Animated World have better characterization.
52:13
It's just brilliantly well directed the web of forever.
52:15
So for might be one of the most perfect Doctor Who episodes in
52:20
terms of realization that Covent Garden sequences.
52:23
They are chilling. You know, Paul Left Bridge
52:25
Stewart is left in our panting mess after he's faced all those
52:30
Hawking great yet. He's the croutons really
52:35
underrated. I think he's got a is, don't you
52:38
roll your nose up on me. It's got a really interesting
52:41
soundscape to it. Do it?
52:43
I think it's got trout and a pre at their best, isn't it?
52:47
You know? Oh go away.
52:49
No, come back again. Whole, what's this?
52:51
Okay, go ahead. I'm ready?
52:54
I love it. I'll talk to you.
52:56
Got it all wrong. Dalek invasion of Earth,
52:59
overrated. I can't believe that came first
53:02
in that poll from dwr, Anna. What are you voters doing?
53:07
It's really quite well, written. I think it's sort of A dramatic
53:13
and dad, they're sort of stuff, but fatalistic and a bit scary
53:17
and how it's written by. It just isn't executed anywhere
53:21
near as well as it should be. That's Richard - well, isn't it?
53:24
Yes, Richmond. Yeah, well, I think he's great.
53:27
Okay, I'm going to throw a few more, you okay?
53:30
The web Planet I can see why it came out last in that poll.
53:37
I just don't think like, okay, great for the ambition of it is
53:43
there, but the execution just isn't and it's so you can see
53:46
glimmers. You can see glimmers, you know,
53:48
that be asking for par or even a two-parter.
53:52
If you're experimenting with stuff, you know you can almost
53:58
like see what he's getting at. It just doesn't have the
54:00
resources when it gets to Ian with those grubs underground and
54:03
they got right. Doing all those kinds of Lights.
54:07
Whether all of that talking and you can't really understand what
54:09
they're saying because I know they're trying to be avian
54:11
Bates. I don't get what they're saying,
54:13
and I don't mean that. My doctor says, we are going to
54:16
find the Annie Moose for, I was actress moments in it where
54:21
he's, you know, where he ins underground and whoever that was
54:24
that one that's with him. Yeah, I know.
54:26
You mean just like head on, doesn't she like take off a
54:29
week, doesn't she like sacrifice herself or something?
54:37
Look, if you come from like these City, people jumping up
54:40
and down to lie. All right?
54:41
Which is going to sacrifice some horrific alien death.
54:45
Like, I've, it's all over the place and it just doesn't really
54:48
work. All right, I can go routing
54:50
defense. The web Planet because I think
54:52
ambition with the day that I do but I get why people.
54:56
Yeah, I mean, I know somebody's partner who decided to watch
55:00
Doctor Who for them and then they got to that point and they
55:05
said I'm not sure if I want to watch TV a again and gave up
55:11
okay, power of the Daleks Yeah. Okay.
55:15
Yeah. Well a classic.
55:18
I'm not not one that I would have really paid that much
55:22
attention to it. Gently gently loved Jan Lee.
55:28
Yeah, I think if it was found And I could really properly
55:33
watch it. I think I would enjoy it more.
55:36
I didn't get that much from the animation and the whole.
55:39
I'm your servant. Stuff is Daleks chanting stuff
55:42
that puts me off? I know it's the first time it
55:45
was really done in that way. We're so used to dialects
55:48
behaving differently in your millions of big finish.
55:51
And, and even in the new TV series, always had our like
55:55
serving tea or it's saying something.
55:57
Vaguely human like, or have any emotions or something.
56:01
It's been done. To death.
56:03
Absolutely. I do.
56:04
I don't know but not that what I'm saying?
56:07
It was the first time so yeah, it is interesting but I'm not a
56:11
fan of it. You should have just been done
56:13
once as that one off. I'm your servant.
56:15
And okay, that's a moment there where you're like okay I
56:17
contradict that for a second I don't want diets have any more
56:20
emotions ever again. I'll hey is peerless pair of the
56:25
Daleks. I think it's the best.
56:26
Dalek story of the law. I think it's the best
56:30
introduction story. Three of a doctor of the law.
56:34
I think it's one of the best Doctor Who stories.
56:36
I think trout. This time is bookended by two of
56:39
the best ever. That's right stories, right?
56:42
And yeah, so a lot of words about what comes in between
56:44
because there's a lot of I'm like, I said the season
56:46
intransigent commanders, but it's a great story even without
56:50
all the Regeneration stuff. I mean, it's got to deal with
56:52
all of that in that same story as well.
56:55
This whole new change for the show as well, and it deals with
56:59
that very well and tells a great story.
57:02
It's home. Okay.
57:04
One more. The Romans.
57:07
Oh, funny. Fabulous.
57:12
Puts a great for Hartnell. Really, really great performance
57:16
from our lawyers want to see the doctor and a gaze holder.
57:19
And father, I've seen I've seen it now.
57:23
The paperwork is waving The Sword and narrow the focus of
57:26
that. That's sort of a few times.
57:35
Carry on realm of things. So it's not like it's not like
57:39
he's a mariner says it is. I funny I have to pick him and
57:42
skill to do that. While I'm writing I said you
57:44
wouldn't have that these days would you?
57:46
You would have Amy Pond being chased around by a sex Pest and
57:48
he said no she'd be the one doing the chasing and that's how
57:53
things have changed. And stays River Song, will be
57:55
Chase around the doctor like that.
57:57
I love it. When the doctor fire trucks that
57:59
Mars over that man's head. I was trained by the mountain
58:04
molar of Montana my favourite bit, is where he goes.
58:09
I don't know what you're insinuating.
58:11
I can't go off on my own. Come on, my child.
58:13
Get the famous. Let's go.
58:16
It's just great. It is.
58:18
Isn't it gorgeous? Well, I mean, I think we've
58:22
celebrated the 60s and something up there.
58:24
I don't know our son. It how do you solve your faults
58:27
of the 1960s of doctor without just saying that's where it
58:30
started? It has it.
58:35
There was so many first obviously, because that's where
58:38
it started. But it was it was always trying
58:41
to do something new and different.
58:43
It didn't just rest on like a. We've got the four Mills.
58:47
The format was always changing for good or For Worse.
58:50
People are always experimenting with different things and I
58:55
don't think you got as much as that as it as it goes on.
58:57
It does for about the father's titles down.
59:03
Its ambitious and it's always changing and it's the variety
59:06
that you get in the 60s as well given what you can execute
59:09
malleable. Give me what you can do with
59:11
money now, the fat but the 60s was the most ambitious period,
59:15
which land on the song, okay, I believe in hard know that is
59:21
where experimentation is. I believe in trout, that is
59:31
where we stopped doing Base of the feet.
59:36
We love the 60 years. How do we end this?
59:44
You might be whoopsie. Show your tits.