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Mark Belling Podcast #78: Bill Gates breaks from the left on climate change; is this the crack that will end the movement? Mark analyzes why other tech leaders will likely join Gates. Also, Fiserv stock crashes, and can the Trump Administration help Milwaukee kill its money losing streetcar boondoggle? · The Mark Belling Podcast

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Speaker 2: lefties are always proven wrong, but they never I mean,
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Speaker 3: Are aware of it.
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Speaker 2: One of the examples of they just move on as
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Speaker 2: and I actually first stuff starts this weekend, the I
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Speaker 2: ninety four widening project in Central Milwaukee County, which is
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Speaker 2: going to be hellish. And then when it's done, everything
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Speaker 2: will be better. Unfortunately, it's not going to be done.
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Speaker 2: I wrote this in my I kind of put the
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Speaker 2: last week, but this is what I meant to say.
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Speaker 2: It'll be done about the time that President Marco Ruby
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Speaker 2: I wrote the column ending their term. But it's not
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Speaker 2: that I am making here is that for decades leftists
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Speaker 2: have opposed the widening of I ninety four from three
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Speaker 2: to four lades who greenlighted this Tony Evers. Because now
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Speaker 2: be done, and I think even they have realized that
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Speaker 2: it's not good for the city of Milwaukee, that it
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Speaker 2: isn't done. But they never I haven't heard a single
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Speaker 2: one of them say we were wrong about opposing this
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Speaker 2: for thirty years, and you know, and the fact that
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Speaker 2: it was Evers that signed it, that means they were
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Speaker 2: stopped opposing the widening, and that was this period of silence,
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Speaker 2: the thought that I mentioned, and then it starts to hit.
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Speaker 2: They just move out of the next thing. So they
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Speaker 2: want to now tear down seven ninety four, learning nothing
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Speaker 2: from the other thing. But they've moved on and that
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Speaker 2: becomes their thing. I have a story here that we're
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Speaker 2: going to get to in just a short moment that
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Speaker 2: might be the early stages of this. This is not
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Speaker 2: an issue that they've moved on yet. I'm merely picking
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Speaker 2: up on something that indicates maybe we're in the beginning
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Speaker 3: Not an option.
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Speaker 2: Bill Gates, the Microsoft co founder who wasn't an idiot.
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Speaker 2: Steve Balmer, he was an idiot, and now Sachi Nodela,
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Speaker 2: who runs a company he's a genius too. Like Gates
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Speaker 2: was Bill Gates, of course, after leaving Microsoft and holding
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Speaker 2: onto the stock, has become a giant lefty. Probably always
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Speaker 2: was a giant lefty, but that's what he's doing. He
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Speaker 2: gives money away, and he's in charge of lefty causes,
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Speaker 2: and he holds lefty symposiums, and he's become like the
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Speaker 2: senior statement of the uber rich elitist left.
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Speaker 3: That's what he is.
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Speaker 2: He's got a website in which he opines on things,
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Speaker 2: and yesterday he'll pined on something that's raising.
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Speaker 3: A lot of eyebrows Bill Gates.
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Speaker 2: And I'll give you the cliff notes here, because the
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Speaker 2: thing goes on and on. Bill Gates is now saying,
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Speaker 2: we really don't have anything to worry about with climate change.
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Speaker 4: Oh now, he is the first of this first person
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Speaker 4: I've seen to say this, that's part of this whole
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Speaker 4: group of people that's been telling us that this is
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Speaker 4: going to be the end of the world and so on.
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Speaker 2: But when Bill Gates says something, that's an indication to
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Speaker 2: me that many others in this establishment are pondering.
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Speaker 3: And I have a theory as.
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Speaker 2: To why he's saying it, aside from the fact that
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Speaker 2: he's right. But it never was the threat that they
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Speaker 2: said that it was. I have a theory as to
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Speaker 2: why he's an his piece, he brings up all of
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Speaker 2: these things in which he said, there's simply no reason
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Speaker 2: to think that climate change is going to threaten human
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Speaker 2: existence or anything like that. He's not denying the climate
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Speaker 2: change is occurring, and he says that there is still
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Speaker 2: a gradual warming in global temperatures, and he's using three
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Speaker 2: degrees centigrade by the end of this century, in other words,
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Speaker 2: the next seventy six years. But in his piece he said,
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Speaker 2: we can live and coexist with that. Some may not
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Speaker 2: be good, but it doesn't threaten human existence or any
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Speaker 2: of those things that alarmists, including him, have been saying.
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Speaker 3: Forever and ever and ever. This is the first break
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Speaker 3: I've seen by somebody who's right there in the middle
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Speaker 3: of it and has influence.
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Speaker 2: Now, I have a theory, as you could say, well,
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Speaker 2: part of it is they've been saying this for twenty
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Speaker 2: five years and none of the things that they've predicted
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Speaker 2: so far. In fact, we should mention that Melissa, the
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Speaker 2: biggest hurricane of this season and really the only big
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Speaker 2: hurricane of this season, hit Jamaica yesterday. Fortunately, degraded a bit.
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Speaker 2: When it got landfall, it was a Category four. You know,
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Speaker 2: Jamaica being Jamaica. There haven't been a lot of images
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Speaker 2: or pictures back yet, but it apparently is not the crushing,
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Speaker 2: horrid devastation that.
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Speaker 3: Hit some of the other islands.
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Speaker 2: But the point of bringing this up is one of
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Speaker 2: the theses of the whole climate change narrative is the
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Speaker 2: ocean waters are warming and that's creating more turbulent weather weather,
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Speaker 2: and there's going to be a incredible increase in the
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Speaker 2: number of hurricanes. This year has been one of the
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Speaker 2: quietest ever. We're close to the end. You can still
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Speaker 2: get them in November. December first is the end of
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Speaker 2: the hurricane season, but the guts of it is late
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Speaker 2: August to about right now, so I mean, there still
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Speaker 2: could be one or two more in November. It's happened,
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Speaker 2: but so far this has been an extremely quiet season.
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Speaker 2: And if you just take a look at hurricane activity
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Speaker 2: in the Aganic over the last fifty years, what happens
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Speaker 2: one year seems to have nothing to do with the
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Speaker 2: following year.
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Speaker 3: It's all over the map. There are some years in
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Speaker 3: which there's just.
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Speaker 2: A lot of them, and then there's a year like
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Speaker 2: this year in which almost zip meaning I don't think.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that the hurricane activity has anything to
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Speaker 2: do with climate. I think that there are other forces
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Speaker 2: that dictated. Paul wonders where al Gore is these days? Now, see,
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Speaker 2: I think al Gore he'll never he's he is still alive,
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Speaker 2: which is kind of amazing. You don't hear, you don't
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Speaker 2: hear anything about him. He'll never break because that would
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Speaker 2: be like his entire thing that he's known for in life.
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Speaker 2: But Bill Gates has different motivations here, and I want
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Speaker 2: to come to where I think this is coming from. Gates,
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Speaker 2: of course, remains a major holder of Microsoft stock. Microsoft
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Speaker 2: is semi partner. They have a relationship partner is not
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Speaker 2: the right word, but a relationship with open AI, which
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Speaker 2: is a separate company and Microsoft and all of them
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Speaker 2: are kind of in the cutting edge of this whole
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Speaker 2: data center thing. The data centers and AI and all
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Speaker 2: of the other advances in computing and technology are going
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Speaker 2: to require massive amounts of new electricity generation well if
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Speaker 2: well fossil fil eVision power and all of the This
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Speaker 2: is what's creating climate change. That's with the narrative now,
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Speaker 2: if we don't drastically increase the generation of power, this
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Speaker 2: new technological revolution can occur. So we need to divorce
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Speaker 2: the two things from one another. And here comes Gates. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's nothing really to worry about, that's my guess. And
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Speaker 2: the motivation, there's always a motivation. The motivation is never
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Speaker 2: the truth, but there's that motivation on that issue of power.
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Speaker 2: I want to read an interesting post on X. You
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Speaker 2: know a lot of people use handles. I use my
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Speaker 2: actual name. I think is Mark Belling show this is
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Speaker 2: rain Maker nineteen seventy three. I don't know that is,
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Speaker 2: but a very interesting post with regard to uranium. As
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Speaker 2: you know, I have argued that the only real solution
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Speaker 2: to this issue of needing massive amounts of new power
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Speaker 2: generation is nuclear, solar and wind. You could make the
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Speaker 2: whole planet solar panels and wind farms and you would
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Speaker 2: not come up with enough electricity to power the AI
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Speaker 2: technology revolution of the future. Cole has all the issues
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Speaker 2: that we know that it has. Natural gas is a
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Speaker 2: very good option, but people object to wit. It is
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Speaker 2: a minuscule carbon footprint. The big problem with it is
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Speaker 2: the pipelines. Nuclear has no environmental footprint.
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Speaker 3: At all.
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Speaker 2: It's the closest thing you can find to something that's
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Speaker 2: carbon neutral. There's no emissions from a nuclear plant. The
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Speaker 2: only thing that happens is that the water next to
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Speaker 2: the plant is a little bit warmer than the water downstreak.
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Speaker 3: That's it.
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Speaker 2: We moved away from nuclear in the seventies and the
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Speaker 2: eighties when the lefties decided that this was an environmental
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Speaker 2: concern because the core of the reactor could melt down.
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Speaker 2: But now that we're faced with the need for massive
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Speaker 2: amounts of new electricity and the need to find something
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Speaker 2: that is totally carbon neutral and can produce massive amounts
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Speaker 2: at the same time, nuclear is the only option. Natural
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Speaker 2: gas can produce lots, coal can produce a pheromount. Nuclear
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Speaker 2: can produce huge but unlike the coal plants, nothing's being
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Speaker 2: belched out, and unlike the natural gas, you don't need
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Speaker 2: to have any pipelines. Nuclear power is generated when specific
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Speaker 2: minerals have their atom split. Uranium and plutonium are two
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Speaker 2: of the biggies. This is rain Maker nineteen seventy three's post.
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Speaker 2: An egg sized chunk of uranium delivers as much electricity
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Speaker 2: as eighty eight tons of coal. The true marble, though
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Speaker 2: lies not only in its output, but in the density
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Speaker 2: of that power. At the heart of each uranium atom
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Speaker 2: sits a colossal reserve of energy. When a uranium two
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Speaker 2: thirty five nucleus splits in fission, it unleashes heat and neutrons.
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Speaker 2: Those neutrons collide with neighboring atoms, triggering more splits in
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Speaker 2: a runaway chain reaction atom for atom. The cascade liberates
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Speaker 2: millions of times more energy than combusting coal or oil.
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Speaker 2: He's kind of saying it's a snowball effect. You bust
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Speaker 2: one of these atoms, all of the atoms adjacent they
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Speaker 2: start to bust, and you're just cranking out all of
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Speaker 2: this energy and you only need a little bit of
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Speaker 2: ur uranium to be able to do it. The lefties
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Speaker 2: have sort of been silent of late on nuclear. I
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Speaker 2: suspect the fact that almost everybody in tech is a Lefty,
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Speaker 2: and everyone knows that in order to move to this
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Speaker 2: next great waves of technology with AI and everything else,
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Speaker 2: you're going to need way more electricity that at some
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Speaker 2: point the left is going to rediscover nuclear for what
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Speaker 2: it is, the ultimate clean energy source. All Right, I've
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Speaker 2: got another story for you, picked out of the Bowels
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Speaker 2: of the News. This is something that's I keep expecting
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Speaker 2: any any day now, a breakthrough in this government shutdown.
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Speaker 2: The Democrat position is not sustainable, and the Democrats have
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Speaker 2: more to lose, and the people that they claim to
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Speaker 2: be their constituents have more to lose. This week, the
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Speaker 2: largest federal workers union called on the Democrats to pass
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Speaker 2: the GOP bill and end the shutdown. The Federal Employees
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Speaker 2: Union is about as democratic an interest group as you
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Speaker 2: can find. We certainly know in the last election that
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Speaker 2: there's this demographic shift that's now on steroids going on,
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Speaker 2: and a lot of private sector labor unions their members
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Speaker 2: are becoming Republican, but the government unions that's still one
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Speaker 2: of the backbones of the left. Federal workers, the ones
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Speaker 2: that are furloughed, aren't being paid right now, and as
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Speaker 2: we all know, it's kind of a wink wink, nod nod. Generally,
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Speaker 2: when the shutdown ends, they get all their back pay
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Speaker 2: and they just ended up getting a vacation. But now
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Speaker 2: you're at the point in which not getting a paycheck
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Speaker 2: is creating something of a hardship, and the Federal Workers
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Speaker 2: Union is telling the Democrats to pack the bill and
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Speaker 2: from the Republicans' perspective, they have what's called a clean bill.
15:25
Speaker 2: It's simply the same continuing resolution that was passed last time,
15:28
Speaker 2: no policy changes in it at all. The Democrats want
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Speaker 2: to come up with this huge chunk of money, health
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Speaker 2: care for illegals, bailout Obamacare, and so on. The Democrats
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Speaker 2: have tried to blame the Republicans for the shutdown, but
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Speaker 2: the Republicans keep passing this bill that would refund the
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Speaker 2: government and not change anything. The problem for the Democrats
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Speaker 2: is is that their base is demanding to stand up
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Speaker 2: to Trump, stand up to Trump's, stand up to Trump,
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Speaker 2: but they haven't figured out what they're is game is.
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Speaker 2: My belief is that the Republicans will provide some assistance
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Speaker 2: for Obamacare, and they probably should. It is not the
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Speaker 2: fault of any Republican in this country that Obamacare was
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Speaker 2: a financial fraud and when the subsidies ended, premiums would
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Speaker 2: explode by three hundred percent, which is what we're staring at.
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Speaker 2: The Democrats wrote the bill, and the Democrats wrote the
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Speaker 2: bill as to when the Obamacare credits expire. It's passed
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Speaker 2: with zero Republican votes. But the reality is, and this
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Speaker 2: is a reality. It's pretty good data on this. More
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Speaker 2: Trump voters are on Obamacare than Democrat voters. Remember who
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Speaker 2: it is that's on Obamacare. Obamacare is not.
16:52
Speaker 3: Medicaid.
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Speaker 2: Medicaid is healthcare for really poor people. Obamacare generally serve herbs,
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Speaker 2: the lower middle class to a portion of the middle class.
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Speaker 2: They're the people that are eligible for the Obamacare at
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Speaker 2: its subsidies. That again, the realignment of American politics. That
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Speaker 2: chunk of the American voter base, the kind of blue collar,
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Speaker 2: non college kind of middle class to lower middle class
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Speaker 2: to maybe including some that are slightly above middle class.
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Speaker 2: Thet's took up a core base of the Republican party.
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Speaker 2: And again it's not their fault that we created Obamacare
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Speaker 2: with a non sustainable financial model. The one thing that
17:46
Speaker 2: Republicans have to insist upon is if they do do this,
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Speaker 2: they have to get credit. It was the Democrats that
17:54
Speaker 2: shut down the government and the Republicans that are bailing
17:57
Speaker 2: out the Democratic mess of Obamacare, something that financially never
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Speaker 2: added up. I have another story for you. This is
18:03
Speaker 2: an interesting political story.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 2: Many of you know that Tom Tiffany's running for governor.
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Speaker 2: You know that, don't you you know that Tom Tiffany's
18:15
Speaker 2: current job is he's the congressman from north in Wisconsin.
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Speaker 2: For those of you who listen to my podcast and
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Speaker 2: you're not from Wisconsin, you should see Tiffany's district. I mean,
18:23
Speaker 2: it's just I live in Gwen Moore's district. You almost
18:28
Speaker 2: can ride a bike from one end to it. I
18:30
Speaker 2: can't ride a bike from one end to it to another,
18:31
Speaker 2: but a lot of people actually could if you try
18:38
Speaker 2: to take a jet air plane to get across Tiffany's
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Speaker 2: test even take his district's huge. It's basically all the
18:44
Speaker 2: parts of Wisconsin that don't have a lot of people.
18:47
Speaker 2: It's up north pretty much.
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Speaker 3: Think of.
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Speaker 2: Everything up north, with the exception of a corner of
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Speaker 2: northwestern Wisconsin. That's Tiffany's district. With Tiffany running for governor,
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Speaker 2: he can't run for Congress at the same time, so
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Speaker 2: he's giving that seat up. He could change his mind
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Speaker 2: and drop out of the race for governor, but presuming
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Speaker 2: he doesn't, his seat is open. It is the most
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Speaker 2: Republican congressional district in the state of Wisconsin. Trump had
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Speaker 2: a greater percentage of the vote in that district than
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Speaker 2: in any other district in Wisconsin. So it's if not
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Speaker 2: a i'd say it's a safe Republican seat. The Democrats
19:24
Speaker 2: have delusions of grandeur that they could flip the seat,
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Speaker 2: but it's unlikely. Well with Tiffany leaving. Here's the thing
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Speaker 2: about seats in Congress. First of all, members of Congress
19:33
Speaker 2: almost never lose reelection. It's a great gig. The only
19:38
Speaker 2: downside to it is, unlike the Senate, you have to
19:40
Speaker 2: run every two years. You're constantly running, but get a
19:45
Speaker 2: chance to go into the Congress, and as we know,
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Speaker 2: there are people that are there for years and years
19:49
Speaker 2: and years and years and years. Remember the House of Representatives.
19:52
Speaker 2: So this is a very attractive seat for pretty much
19:56
Speaker 2: every Republican who lives in this vast expanse of area.
20:00
Speaker 2: A couple of candidates have declared so far, but there's
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Speaker 2: a very interesting development today. Michael Alfonso is running.
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Speaker 3: Who's he? Do you know who he is?
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Speaker 2: Well, he's his story. You could not find a more
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Speaker 2: interesting story. First of all, he's twenty five. That's the
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Speaker 2: bare minimum you have to be. Twenty five is the
20:25
Speaker 2: minimum to be elected to the House. He's twenty five,
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Speaker 2: He's from northern Wisconsin, went to UW Madison, got a
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Speaker 2: good life story, did construction jobs to pay his way
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Speaker 2: through college, and so on. Now he's twenty five and
20:42
Speaker 2: he wants to run for Congress, but he doesn't hold
20:44
Speaker 2: any political office. You might be wondering, well, how can
20:46
Speaker 2: just this guy with no real background decide that he's
20:49
Speaker 2: going to be in the Congress.
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Speaker 3: His wife.
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Speaker 2: Has two very well known parents. His wife's name is
21:06
Speaker 2: a Vita. There was a time in which A Vita
21:10
Speaker 2: was like one of the great bride. I actually saw
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Speaker 2: a Vita when it came out, and it had a
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Speaker 2: tremendous impact that a lot of baby boomers end some
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Speaker 2: generation exers when it came out, and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: that name that nobody ever heard of was popping up
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Speaker 2: all over the place.
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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's name of their kids a Vita anymore.
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Speaker 2: But this young woman is twenty five years old, so
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Speaker 2: it was back of the air at twenty five.
21:28
Speaker 3: Vita.
21:32
Speaker 2: Her maiden name is Duffy. She's Sean Duffy's daughter. Sean
21:39
Speaker 2: Duffy represented that district in Congress prior to Tiffany. Sean
21:46
Speaker 2: is now the Secretary of Transportation in the Trump administration.
21:49
Speaker 2: Shawn's wife and Avita's mother, is a prominent host who's
21:56
Speaker 2: all over Fox News Channel. She's one of the I
22:00
Speaker 2: think Saturday Morning Fox and Friends, and she's been on
22:03
Speaker 2: a lot of the other programs over there as well.
22:05
Speaker 2: The Duffies are political royalty in the American conservative movement.
22:12
Speaker 2: President Trump is very close to Sean Duffy, his Transportation secretary.
22:19
Speaker 2: I think there is a very good chance that Trump
22:22
Speaker 2: may endorse I think Michael Alfonso jumping into this race
22:25
Speaker 2: he may have. I'm sure he's discussed this with his
22:28
Speaker 2: father and mother in law, and they've obviously given their blessing,
22:32
Speaker 2: which may mean that there will be support from Trump
22:34
Speaker 2: as well. In his declaration, he calls himself a pro
22:41
Speaker 2: Trump conservative. But any Republican running for anything in the
22:44
Speaker 2: United States is throwing Trump's name into their thing, including
22:47
Speaker 2: even Bill Berrien was doing a guy who couldn't stand Trump.
22:49
Speaker 3: They're all throwing the Trump Trump Trump thing in there.
22:51
Speaker 2: In this case, Michael Lfonso has family connections. Now I've
22:57
Speaker 2: never heard him talk. He's going to have to put
22:59
Speaker 2: himself out there, I guess is he's an extremely well
23:01
Speaker 2: spoken young man. But I don't know that, but he
23:06
Speaker 2: instantly by joining the race makes himself the most probably
23:11
Speaker 2: interesting of the candidates running so far.
23:13
Speaker 3: And now this with.
23:15
Speaker 2: Democrats, everything is about the narrative, the narrative, the narrative,
23:21
Speaker 2: the narrative, the narrative. They all need to have like
23:23
Speaker 2: a backstory. The Kamala Harris is constantly changing backstory. She's
23:28
Speaker 2: claimed to be every possible ethnicity that there was. An
23:32
Speaker 2: example of the Kamala narrative was the phony I worked
23:36
Speaker 2: at McDonald's story. It's still to be one of the
23:40
Speaker 2: strangest political lies I've ever heard. I don't I think
23:43
Speaker 2: she's the first person ever to lie about working at McDonald's.
23:48
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't.
23:50
Speaker 2: First of all, it doesn't really create anything positive or negative.
23:53
Speaker 2: Let's start with this, what percentage of Americans that worked
23:58
Speaker 2: at McDonald's.
23:58
Speaker 3: It's huge.
24:00
Speaker 2: Secondly, it's not like terribly demanding physical labor. But it's
24:07
Speaker 2: also not a cake job. It's a job that billions
24:10
Speaker 2: of people have. It's neither a positive nor negative. It's
24:14
Speaker 2: just a regular thing. Why would you make that up? Now?
24:18
Speaker 2: The reason that she made it up is that she
24:20
Speaker 2: was This was the more time in which she was
24:22
Speaker 2: trying to pass herself up. First of all, she passed
24:24
Speaker 2: herself up as growing a poor which that turned out
24:27
Speaker 2: not to be true because we found out that she
24:29
Speaker 2: was growing up in an affluent suburb of Montreal. So
24:32
Speaker 2: then she comes up with this I worked at McDonald's
24:34
Speaker 2: thing to make herself seem like a normal girl as
24:36
Speaker 2: opposed to this arrogant elitist lefty that we all know
24:39
Speaker 2: that she is, except there's no evidence that it's true.
24:42
Speaker 3: Trump called her out.
24:43
Speaker 2: Of the reason that Trump went and when he did
24:45
Speaker 2: his work to shift at McDonald's and so on, was
24:48
Speaker 2: the draw attention to the fact that Kamala was lying
24:50
Speaker 2: about the whole thing.
24:51
Speaker 3: Anyway.
24:52
Speaker 2: It was the reason that the lie was told is
24:53
Speaker 2: they were. This is one of the narratives she was
24:55
Speaker 2: trying to create.
24:57
Speaker 3: The narrative.
24:59
Speaker 2: This brings to zoraon Mandani. Mamdani likely to become the
25:02
Speaker 2: next mayor of New York next week. He's obviously anti Israel.
25:12
Speaker 2: He told this story last week about how so many
25:20
Speaker 2: Muslims in America suffered after nine to eleven. And he
25:24
Speaker 2: told this story about how he had an ant who
25:27
Speaker 2: was terrified of getting in a cab or getting on
25:30
Speaker 2: a bus or doing anything after nine to eleven for
25:32
Speaker 2: fear that New Yorkers would attack her because she's Muslim.
25:41
Speaker 3: First of all, let's just start with.
25:42
Speaker 2: The tone deafness of in a city where thousands of
25:46
Speaker 2: people were killed on nine to eleven to worry about
25:50
Speaker 2: the impact on people who weren't killed. Nonetheless, it creates
25:53
Speaker 2: this narrative, and he said, this is one of the
25:54
Speaker 2: defining things for him, the bigotry that is directed against
25:58
Speaker 2: Muslim Americans, and by imp occasion, you know, somehow this
26:01
Speaker 2: is all Israel's fault and it's all Jewish people's fault.
26:04
Speaker 2: That's the wink wink, nod nod that's in nobody creates
26:06
Speaker 2: this narrative that he had this ant and so on.
26:12
Speaker 2: Where am I going with this? This is the thing
26:16
Speaker 2: with these lefties and telling these stories. The story is
26:19
Speaker 2: evidently untrue, and it didn't take long for some sluice
26:27
Speaker 2: on the Internet to disprove the story. This is one
26:33
Speaker 2: poster run X the aunt Zora Mandami Zoron Mamdani shed
26:38
Speaker 2: faked tears over claiming she stopped riding the subway after
26:41
Speaker 2: nine to eleven because she didn't feel safe wearing her
26:44
Speaker 2: sh Bob Hijab.
26:46
Speaker 3: Never wore a hi jab, nor.
26:49
Speaker 2: Lived in New York City at the time post nine
26:53
Speaker 2: to eleven. She lived in Tanzania.
26:58
Speaker 3: So now Donnie's press people have been challenged on this.
27:03
Speaker 2: We found this woman, she wasn't even living in New
27:05
Speaker 2: York at the time, and she was also not someone
27:07
Speaker 2: She was not one of the Muslim women who wore that.
27:11
Speaker 2: So now Mam Nannie is changing the story. He's now
27:17
Speaker 2: saying it was actually his father's cousin, a woman named
27:22
Speaker 2: Zarah Fouhi, and she apparently died a number of years ago.
27:28
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't even know what your father's
27:30
Speaker 2: cousin is. What is your father's cousin? Could you figure
27:33
Speaker 2: out what that relationship is? Is that your second cousin
27:36
Speaker 2: or is that your cousin once removed? Is I don't
27:40
Speaker 2: even know. I know that I had a zillion of them.
27:42
Speaker 2: Neither of my parents had siblings, but on my father's
27:47
Speaker 2: side there were just he had zillions and zillions of
27:51
Speaker 2: cousins because his father and his mother both came from
27:55
Speaker 2: in other words, my grandparents, or my father said, they
27:56
Speaker 2: both came from massive, huge, you know, families. So I
28:02
Speaker 2: had all of these people, and I kind of thought
28:06
Speaker 2: of them as cousins, but they weren't cousins. They were
28:09
Speaker 2: something else. And I forever, I mean, I heard second
28:11
Speaker 2: cousin and I heard first cousin. Once removed that I
28:13
Speaker 2: never knew which one of the two it was. But
28:15
Speaker 2: this is your cousin's your father's cousins. So whatever that is,
28:20
Speaker 2: I do know this, though it's not your aunt. Secondly,
28:25
Speaker 2: the person he now says that it is conveniently died
28:28
Speaker 2: several years ago, so we have no way of knowing
28:30
Speaker 2: whether or not she was actually afraid to ride the subway?
28:33
Speaker 3: What was she wearing? A shop?
28:34
Speaker 2: But was any of that crew? Well five plusin why
28:37
Speaker 2: do you like? Because their whole thing is to create
28:39
Speaker 2: the narrative. His narrative is is that Muslims are impressed,
28:42
Speaker 2: are oppressed in New York, They're oppressed in America.
28:46
Speaker 3: It's one of the things that makes his appeal to
28:49
Speaker 3: this huge base of.
28:50
Speaker 2: Leftists that are now pro Muslim and Muslim sympathizers and
28:53
Speaker 2: Muslim supporters and so on. He's got to be able
28:55
Speaker 2: to tell that story. First of all, Minai is a
28:58
Speaker 2: very rich guy. His family is incredibly wealthy, but he's
29:01
Speaker 2: got to get every Democrat has.
29:03
Speaker 3: To claim at some point in their life they were
29:04
Speaker 3: all pressed.
29:07
Speaker 2: They're the victim of bigotry, and they were held down
29:11
Speaker 2: family as much as billionaires as what they are.
29:14
Speaker 3: You say, why did he lie? First of all, he
29:15
Speaker 3: never figured anybody would actually look into this.
29:18
Speaker 2: But secondly, you've got to be able to create this narrative,
29:21
Speaker 2: and none of them can have. None of them actually
29:23
Speaker 2: have a reality that is convenient for the narratives that
29:26
Speaker 2: they want to share. I have a story to tell,
29:37
Speaker 2: and we'll tell that story when we come back in
29:40
Speaker 2: very brief moment here. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
29:46
Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling Podcast. As I said, I
29:50
Speaker 2: have a story to tell. I'm telling the story as
29:53
Speaker 2: a way of getting into the next actual segment that
29:57
Speaker 2: I'm going to do. Here's why I didn't lead the
30:00
Speaker 2: program with it, but at leading the second segment of
30:03
Speaker 2: the program. For those of you who listened to my
30:06
Speaker 2: old radio show which lasted forever, I had a certain
30:12
Speaker 2: style of doing the program, and.
30:14
Speaker 3: I tended to like to move into the.
30:18
Speaker 2: Program slowly, in other words, kind of back in and
30:22
Speaker 2: be conversational and yap about a bunch of inane things
30:26
Speaker 2: and so on.
30:26
Speaker 3: And kind of ease the audience in.
30:29
Speaker 2: It was a style that I had, and I just
30:32
Speaker 2: felt it was a entertaining and be a less threatening
30:37
Speaker 2: way to begin the program than by coming in and
30:39
Speaker 2: ranting and raving from the very very.
30:42
Speaker 3: First part of the program.
30:43
Speaker 2: But thirdly, since my show was on for so long
30:47
Speaker 2: and the audience was so huge, it wasn't like the audience.
30:50
Speaker 2: Clearly the audience wasn't tuning out. I had the most
30:53
Speaker 2: listened to radio program on the state of Wisconsin. They
30:56
Speaker 2: were used to it because they knew, Okay, he's going
30:58
Speaker 2: to be getting to a point here more and these
31:00
Speaker 2: little nuggets that he throws it in between are probably
31:02
Speaker 2: going to be humorous. During the time that I filled
31:10
Speaker 2: in for Rush Limbaugh and I think there's no way.
31:14
Speaker 2: There is a way, but I don't know what it is.
31:17
Speaker 2: I think I was his longest running substitute. I didn't
31:20
Speaker 2: say did more substitute shows. Longest running Walter Williams was
31:24
Speaker 2: right along the same time frame.
31:28
Speaker 3: As I was.
31:30
Speaker 2: I did it for about twenty years, few programs here
31:34
Speaker 2: and there. When I going to do the Rush program,
31:37
Speaker 2: I essentially worked with one of two producers. One of
31:43
Speaker 2: them Kit Carson, native of Whitefish Bay, passed away a
31:46
Speaker 2: number of years ago, and the other the guy that
31:50
Speaker 2: he calls that he called at the time, both Nerdly
31:54
Speaker 2: who's gone on to become a podcast thread a host himself,
31:59
Speaker 2: and in doing the program, when we would do a
32:03
Speaker 2: show prep, both of them, especially Kick Carson, would just
32:06
Speaker 2: stress to me get them in the first fifteen seconds.
32:11
Speaker 3: You got to hit hard.
32:12
Speaker 2: You've got to come out of this exploding. And I
32:16
Speaker 2: came to understand that people turn on the program expecting
32:21
Speaker 2: to hear rush. Okay, here's a guest host. It's a
32:23
Speaker 2: guest host. You better grab them right away before they
32:26
Speaker 2: pushed the button and say they didn't want to listen
32:28
Speaker 2: to a guest host that they'd never heard of, and
32:29
Speaker 2: so on. You've got to grab them. As opposed to
32:31
Speaker 2: in the regular radio show I was doing in Milwaukee,
32:34
Speaker 2: hardly anybody was stumbling onto my show. They were mostly
32:37
Speaker 2: people who were conditioned to listen to it. And I
32:38
Speaker 2: approached it a different way. What is the point of
32:42
Speaker 2: this story, Well, part of the point of the story
32:43
Speaker 2: is I couldn't lead with this segment at the beginning
32:47
Speaker 2: of today's podcast, because my podcast is a hybrid of
32:50
Speaker 2: the two. We have numerous people who are finding me
32:53
Speaker 2: in podcast fell who were not radio listeners. You can
32:57
Speaker 2: listen to this podcast anywhere on planet Earth, and there
33:01
Speaker 2: are all sorts of people who just were not listeners
33:05
Speaker 2: to AM radio or not living in southeastern Wisconsin, or
33:07
Speaker 2: even when our show went online.
33:09
Speaker 3: It wasn't distributed.
33:11
Speaker 2: I mean it was we recreated it as a podcast,
33:14
Speaker 2: but it wasn't really a podcast, if you know what
33:16
Speaker 2: I mean. So there are all sorts of Our guess
33:19
Speaker 2: is is about fifty to fifty of people who live
33:22
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin and outside of Wisconsin. And this is based
33:25
Speaker 2: on the research at the end of the podcast listeners,
33:27
Speaker 2: and it's pretty fair to say that a huge portion,
33:30
Speaker 2: not maybe not quite half, are people that were not
33:33
Speaker 2: radio listeners to the program. So I'm not yet ready
33:36
Speaker 2: to just back into each podcast. I kind of try
33:38
Speaker 2: to grab you from the beginning, and the podcasts are shorter,
33:40
Speaker 2: so why waste all of that time? Even though this
33:42
Speaker 2: portion here is a sort of waste of time, but
33:44
Speaker 2: it's for the purposes of doing a point. So I
33:45
Speaker 2: couldn't lead the show with it, but I could lead
33:47
Speaker 2: the second segment with it, And why am I even
33:49
Speaker 2: bringing up the old Rush Limbaugh thing?
33:51
Speaker 3: Because of this? You could never do what I do.
33:56
Speaker 2: You could never think through all of this to get
33:58
Speaker 2: me to where I am now.
34:00
Speaker 3: You could not you admit that. What did you claim?
34:02
Speaker 3: Oh you knew the Bill Gates story. That was all
34:06
Speaker 3: right anyway.
34:08
Speaker 2: The last time Fi Serve stock was as low as
34:12
Speaker 2: it is today, I was still doing the Rush program.
34:16
Speaker 2: That means not only was Rush still alive, but I
34:18
Speaker 2: was still doing it. I stopped doing it prior to
34:25
Speaker 2: Rush passing away in the end of his show and
34:27
Speaker 2: so on. The last time I filled in for Rush
34:31
Speaker 2: was in twenty eighteen. I basically did it between nineteen
34:34
Speaker 2: ninety eight and twenty eighteen. Fi Serve stock has not
34:39
Speaker 2: been as low as it is today since then. That
34:45
Speaker 2: was the point of telling this story. You may be
34:47
Speaker 2: wondering what's going on with Fi Serf stock. Fi Serf
34:49
Speaker 2: stock crashed today, and the term crash is about little term,
34:53
Speaker 2: but I think it's accurate in this case. The stock
34:56
Speaker 2: went down forty percent in a half hour. It opened
35:00
Speaker 2: forty percent lower, and it's you know, when the thanks volatile,
35:04
Speaker 2: it's trading like crazy. It's bouncing around a bit since
35:07
Speaker 2: then that decline. You'll see this often with a stock
35:12
Speaker 2: where it starts to drift lower and drift lower for
35:14
Speaker 2: an extended period of time. And the reason is drifting
35:16
Speaker 2: lower is there are ominous things that are going on
35:19
Speaker 2: that some people have picked up on, but most have not.
35:21
Speaker 2: And then when the news is out about the ominous thing,
35:24
Speaker 2: everybody sells and gets out so that they can save
35:27
Speaker 2: their butt before it crashes even lower. That appears to
35:30
Speaker 2: be what's happened here. The news that triggered this was
35:35
Speaker 2: The term is called guidance. Publicly traded companies offer guidance
35:40
Speaker 2: to the Wall Street analysts as to what they're the
35:44
Speaker 2: outlook for the company is going to be, and what's
35:45
Speaker 2: going to be in our next quarterly earning statement. You
35:51
Speaker 2: can't be misleading in this Suareholder lawsuits come out if
35:54
Speaker 2: you give bad guidance. If you create, say a rosier scenario,
35:59
Speaker 2: then is reality. And five serv gave guidance that the
36:04
Speaker 2: next quarterly earnings would be far short of the analyst consensus.
36:08
Speaker 2: These analysts make an estimate of what your earnings will be.
36:11
Speaker 2: They were estimating two dollars and sixty cents per share
36:13
Speaker 2: for the coming quarter, and apparently five Serve is lowering
36:17
Speaker 2: the guidance to two o five and the third quarter
36:19
Speaker 2: earnings are now coming out. In other words, it's a
36:22
Speaker 2: big earnings miss. It's a year over year decline, and
36:26
Speaker 2: it's way lower than the analysts were expecting. And when
36:31
Speaker 2: something like that happens, often a stock will crater, and
36:34
Speaker 2: the stock crater. This was I don't even know the
36:38
Speaker 2: culmination because I don't know what the next six months
36:40
Speaker 2: are going to do it. Could it be higher or lore,
36:42
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's the culmination of something that's
36:46
Speaker 2: been going on for a couple of years. First of all,
36:49
Speaker 2: if you bought five Serve stock when the company was
36:51
Speaker 2: formed in its first five years, your one thousand I
36:54
Speaker 2: think if the stock is up about twenty six thousand percent,
36:57
Speaker 2: what's initial original funding? It was almost a penny Scott.
37:01
Speaker 2: It was a microcapstock that got involved in the financial
37:04
Speaker 2: services industry and it exploded to become a huge and
37:07
Speaker 2: enormous company. So what's the cause of the problem here.
37:12
Speaker 2: Several years ago, Fiserv merged with a larger financial services
37:16
Speaker 2: company called First Data. First Data was a larger company,
37:23
Speaker 2: but Fiserv was portrayed as the acquirer in that Fiserv
37:27
Speaker 2: would be the corporate name now of the newly merged companies.
37:31
Speaker 2: It was also stated that the corporate headquarters of Fiserv
37:34
Speaker 2: would remain here in the Milwaukee area. They have offices
37:37
Speaker 2: in Brookfield in Milwaukee. For the first year or so,
37:42
Speaker 2: Jeff Yabuki, who was the chairman and CEO of Fiserv,
37:46
Speaker 2: kept the job with the newly merged companies. But then,
37:49
Speaker 2: and I'm guessing that this was arranged a couple of
37:52
Speaker 2: years later, Yabuki left the company and the first data
37:56
Speaker 2: guy took over as chairman and CEO. His name is
38:00
Speaker 2: Frank Visignano. He quit in December to go to work
38:04
Speaker 2: in the Trump administration. He's now the head of the
38:05
Speaker 2: Social Security Administration. I don't know if he got out
38:09
Speaker 2: because he saw what was coming.
38:11
Speaker 3: Just don't know.
38:15
Speaker 2: There's a guy named Lyons who was brought in in
38:17
Speaker 2: May to be the new CEO of the company, succeeding
38:20
Speaker 2: Frank Visgnago. Over the past several days, there's been head
38:26
Speaker 2: rolling all across fire Servant, which a lot of top
38:28
Speaker 2: officials of the company have been fired again, clearly problems
38:32
Speaker 2: are out here. My guess is, and it's a guess
38:37
Speaker 2: that this merger simply didn't work. Often when one company
38:41
Speaker 2: buys another, you're always looking for the term they always
38:44
Speaker 2: use as a synergy.
38:45
Speaker 3: Well, we do this thing and they do a related thing.
38:48
Speaker 2: So now we've got this larger company that does these
38:51
Speaker 2: two things that it blends into what another and.
38:53
Speaker 3: Often that works.
38:56
Speaker 2: Feiserv was primarily in financial services, banking transactions, stuff like that.
39:03
Speaker 2: This is all the kind of stuff that goes on
39:06
Speaker 2: with regard to any kind of transmission of data financial
39:09
Speaker 2: and so one that we don't see that's a fight
39:11
Speaker 2: Serve was and first at it was a broader company
39:14
Speaker 2: that was in broader areas. And my guess is that
39:17
Speaker 2: the merger is simply.
39:20
Speaker 3: Didn't work.
39:20
Speaker 2: Now I'm not familiar enough with the company to know
39:23
Speaker 2: if the FI Serve operating unit is the one that's
39:25
Speaker 2: not growing as fast, or if it's the fast data
39:27
Speaker 2: first data part, or if the two parts didn't come
39:29
Speaker 2: together or not at all. But the financials now are declining,
39:35
Speaker 2: and the declining in a period in which the overall
39:37
Speaker 2: stock market for several years and especially this year, has
39:39
Speaker 2: been going up on steroids. It's not rare when the
39:45
Speaker 2: market is down forty percent in a year to see
39:47
Speaker 2: individual stocks that crater forty percent a year. When you
39:50
Speaker 2: see a stock crater at a year in which just
39:52
Speaker 2: about everything else is up, that's concerning. Here are some
39:56
Speaker 2: of the numbers down. And again these numbers are for
39:59
Speaker 2: those of you listen to the podcast. We're recording this
40:01
Speaker 2: early in the afternoon on Wednesday, so if you're listening
40:04
Speaker 2: five days later, these numbers could be completely different. Stock
40:07
Speaker 2: down forty percent as of when I checked when I
40:09
Speaker 2: started the podcast just today alone, down sixty percent this year,
40:18
Speaker 2: and the last year in which it was as low
40:22
Speaker 2: as it is today was twenty seventeen. So the stock
40:25
Speaker 2: has hit an eight year low. And during that eight
40:29
Speaker 2: years we've had a massive, obviously bull market in the market.
40:35
Speaker 2: So five serves that they dumped the CFO a couple
40:38
Speaker 2: of other people. The CEO is new, and who knows
40:41
Speaker 2: what the long term solution of the problem is that
40:43
Speaker 2: I don't know what the problem is. One thing to
40:45
Speaker 2: bring up here over the years I've heard from five
40:49
Speaker 2: Serve millionaires.
40:51
Speaker 3: The predecessor of these year in.
40:52
Speaker 2: Southeastern Wisconsin was the ge Millionaires did a couple of
40:56
Speaker 2: segments on this back in the nineties. The people who
40:58
Speaker 2: worked for GE was then called GE Medical, which is
41:01
Speaker 2: based in Waka Shop. GE Medical was a huge division
41:04
Speaker 2: of General Electric at least since broke up the companies
41:07
Speaker 2: and so on. But the stock of General Electric in
41:10
Speaker 2: the seventies, eighties and nineties was one of the great
41:13
Speaker 2: success stories in American corporate history. That's when Jack Welch
41:16
Speaker 2: was the CEO, et cetera. And there are people who
41:21
Speaker 2: you know, when you're in a company, one of the
41:23
Speaker 2: options in your four oh one K is often to
41:24
Speaker 2: buy the company stock. And there are people who work
41:27
Speaker 2: for GE who put their entire four oh one K
41:29
Speaker 2: into the company stock and regular working class people forty
41:33
Speaker 2: fifty sixty thousand dollars a year, and they became multimillionaires
41:36
Speaker 2: because the stock exploded, exploded, exploded, exploded, exploded, and they
41:39
Speaker 2: called them GE millionaires. Unfortunately, after Jack Welch left the company,
41:46
Speaker 2: they named an utter incompetent. In fact, he was the
41:48
Speaker 2: head of GE Medical to succeed him, and General Electric
41:51
Speaker 2: declined ninety percent in value. And a lot of these
41:54
Speaker 2: GE millionaires, you know, they've worked for these companies and
41:57
Speaker 2: the company. Rarely does a company tell it, well, our company.
42:00
Speaker 2: Sometimes really does a company kill employees. Everything's going to hell,
42:03
Speaker 2: it's all we got this. And again, some people just
42:06
Speaker 2: it's always risky to put too much of your investment
42:12
Speaker 2: money in one sock. Now, if you're twenty five years
42:16
Speaker 2: old and you're just starting, that's different. But if you're
42:18
Speaker 2: somebody that is you've now built up quite a nest egg,
42:22
Speaker 2: you never want to no matter what, that company is
42:25
Speaker 2: just the highest market. Look at tick in Video right now,
42:28
Speaker 2: which has done nothing. You cannot say that in Vidia
42:31
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen years from now will not be substantially
42:33
Speaker 2: lower because many of these stocks that just seemed like
42:35
Speaker 2: they would grow forever stop growing. GM four at IBM.
42:42
Speaker 2: They were once the biggest companies in America. So hopefully
42:49
Speaker 2: there aren't too many people that who work for Pfiser
42:52
Speaker 2: who just had way too much of their money tied
42:55
Speaker 2: up in the Feiser, because if they did, that's that's
42:57
Speaker 2: just a huge hit to find out forty percent of
43:01
Speaker 2: your net worth just eviscerated within five minutes. Weirdly, we
43:09
Speaker 2: have another story that deals with Sean Duffy, a double
43:12
Speaker 2: Duffy day. I hinted at the story here. A few
43:18
Speaker 2: days ago on the program, I mentioned that one of
43:23
Speaker 2: the arguments being made by Milwaukee officials who are opposed
43:27
Speaker 2: to abandoning the terribly failed trolley the street car that
43:31
Speaker 2: they call the hop it was another one of those
43:34
Speaker 2: examples of me doing and I told you so, in
43:36
Speaker 2: which I said that this thing was going to be
43:37
Speaker 2: a disaster. It was never going to grow, There never
43:40
Speaker 2: be any ridership, there was never a long term funding
43:43
Speaker 2: thing for it. Nobody was ever going to pay to
43:45
Speaker 2: ride the thing, so it's had to have been free,
43:48
Speaker 2: and even as free, it's hardly ever ridden. Well, you
43:51
Speaker 2: now have a number of city officials that are fed
43:53
Speaker 2: up with the city subsidizing this because you've got all
43:56
Speaker 2: the women who represent the entire city and this thing
43:59
Speaker 2: runs only in a small section east of downtown Milwaukee,
44:03
Speaker 2: and then's a little bit west over to where the
44:04
Speaker 2: post office and bus station is.
44:07
Speaker 3: Well.
44:07
Speaker 2: Several all the have been led by Scott Spiker from
44:09
Speaker 2: the South Side, are saying that the city should just
44:11
Speaker 2: abandon it, that it is ridiculous with all the city's
44:14
Speaker 2: needs that you are putting in money, city property tax money,
44:18
Speaker 2: city dollars to fund this thing that's in only one
44:21
Speaker 2: segment of the community, and as Spiker points out, it's
44:24
Speaker 2: used by two people, the affluent and the homeless. Affluent
44:28
Speaker 2: high end downtown condo owners who work on high rise
44:31
Speaker 2: downtown office buildings and street people who just sit in
44:34
Speaker 2: and ride it.
44:35
Speaker 3: All day because it's free. Those are the two. What's
44:37
Speaker 3: the point of everybody else in.
44:39
Speaker 2: The city, what, you know, the people who live in
44:40
Speaker 2: the central city, the people in the Latino south side,
44:42
Speaker 2: the far South cyberspikers. What's in it for them to
44:45
Speaker 2: subsidize this thing that doesn't serve anybody other than this
44:48
Speaker 2: tiny select.
44:49
Speaker 3: Group of people.
44:50
Speaker 2: And the city's retort has always been, we have to
44:53
Speaker 2: pay back the entire federal grant if we shut it down.
44:57
Speaker 2: This is all background now, and indeed there is federal
45:00
Speaker 2: law that if you get federal funding for a project,
45:07
Speaker 2: you have to continue that project unless the.
45:11
Speaker 3: New use for the money is for the same purpose.
45:13
Speaker 3: In this case, transit.
45:16
Speaker 2: The Milwaukee had a transit garage on the site where
45:24
Speaker 2: the Coteur was built, and they got a grant to
45:28
Speaker 2: build it in order to clear the land for the
45:31
Speaker 2: courteur and run the street car over to the COTUUR.
45:36
Speaker 2: They had a carry down the transit garage that was
45:38
Speaker 2: built with federal funds, so they had to justify using
45:43
Speaker 2: the federal funds on something else that was transit, i e.
45:46
Speaker 3: The trolley.
45:47
Speaker 2: This is how Tom Barrett got funding to do his
45:50
Speaker 2: stupid street car, is that he basically transferred the money
45:56
Speaker 2: that was originally intended for the parking garage and so
45:59
Speaker 2: on and use that as a way of getting a
46:01
Speaker 2: new federal grant.
46:04
Speaker 3: So the argument being made today.
46:07
Speaker 2: By city officials is they now if they get rid
46:10
Speaker 2: of the street car, finally have to pay all that
46:12
Speaker 2: money back because the money is not still being used
46:15
Speaker 2: for the initial stated purpose transit. Now, here's what I
46:18
Speaker 2: said on the podcast a few days ago. Who's the
46:21
Speaker 2: president right now? You better not get this wrong. After
46:25
Speaker 2: bragging about your climate change thing, Trump Trump, you really
46:29
Speaker 2: think that Donald Trump isn't going to give them the
46:33
Speaker 2: ok to stop a street car that not one person
46:36
Speaker 2: who voted for Donald Trump supports. The following letter has
46:41
Speaker 2: been sent to Trump's Transportation Secretary, Sean Duffy. It was
46:44
Speaker 2: written by Van Wangard, state senator who represents southern Milwaukee
46:49
Speaker 2: County portion of Racine County, portion of Kenosha County, and
46:52
Speaker 2: Bob Donovan, who represents good chunk of southwestern Milwaukee County,
46:56
Speaker 2: including a portion of the city. They jointly send the
46:59
Speaker 2: following Who Shaan Duffy, Secretary of Transportation. Dear Secretary Duffy,
47:03
Speaker 2: as state legislator is representing the City of Milwaukee. We
47:06
Speaker 2: write today in support of the letter from Milwaukee Alderman
47:08
Speaker 2: Scott Spiker urging the US Department of Transportation to release
47:12
Speaker 2: the City of Milwaukee from its grant obligation for the
47:15
Speaker 2: development of the Milwaukee street Car. If this is granted,
47:19
Speaker 2: the City of Milwaukee could once and for all end
47:21
Speaker 2: this public works boondoggle that has plagued the city's finances
47:25
Speaker 2: for years. This proposal reflects there is growing support among
47:29
Speaker 2: local leaders who address the fiscal issues facing the City
47:32
Speaker 2: of Milwaukee not through tax increases, but rather by eliminating
47:36
Speaker 2: wasteful spending. So here are these two Republicans are asking
47:39
Speaker 2: Republican Secretary of Transportation do this thing so Milwaukee and
47:44
Speaker 2: stop can stop wasting this idiotic buddy. I think Duffy's
47:47
Speaker 2: going to be receptive to this. Milwaukee's taxpayers have contributed
47:53
Speaker 2: tens of millions of dollars of their own money to
47:55
Speaker 2: this project that continues to be an annual Draine who
47:58
Speaker 2: told you it a so old you'll be a terrible
48:00
Speaker 2: Draain who told you befess I did?
48:02
Speaker 3: I did? I? Did I hit it?
48:04
Speaker 2: When you say I told you so, it's critical to
48:06
Speaker 2: say I told you so. I was explained earlier on
48:08
Speaker 2: the podcast. You have finally learned why it's important to
48:10
Speaker 2: say I told you so correct continue the letter. Operationally,
48:16
Speaker 2: the street car has never broken even and he's incurred
48:19
Speaker 2: an additional burden to maintain it. In twenty twenty six,
48:22
Speaker 2: the street car is projected to face a four point
48:24
Speaker 2: two million dollar deficit. This deficit has increased since the
48:28
Speaker 2: inception of the project and shows no sign of stopping.
48:31
Speaker 2: By the way, if you watch the news coverage all
48:32
Speaker 2: the way through this, you would never do it.
48:34
Speaker 3: Oh the hop it's so pop It's soap popua, nobody
48:37
Speaker 3: rites it.
48:38
Speaker 2: Summerfest goes on, some people will jump on it to
48:41
Speaker 2: get close to the north edge of the grounds.
48:44
Speaker 3: You got.
48:44
Speaker 2: There's there's quite a few like nursing homes and senior
48:47
Speaker 2: care centers on Prospect. Some people will riot it and
48:50
Speaker 2: get off where a dead ends at the corner of
48:52
Speaker 2: Ogden in Prospect, and then walk the other three blocks.
48:55
Speaker 3: Other than those two or.
48:56
Speaker 2: Three things are when something specific is going, it's never written.
49:00
Speaker 3: It just it's never written because it serves no purpose and.
49:04
Speaker 2: It doesn't go anywhere, and it can only go where
49:07
Speaker 2: the stupid tracks are as I told you was going
49:10
Speaker 2: to happen. Thank god, I've spent so many years saying
49:14
Speaker 2: but first of all, I have a successful in stopping
49:16
Speaker 2: this for like twenty years. Then when I finally Barrett
49:19
Speaker 2: finally got it through because he got that Frederal money.
49:21
Speaker 2: I said all of this, and I said all of this,
49:22
Speaker 2: and I said all of this the only way there
49:26
Speaker 2: was only one way, well, two ways, I guess there
49:28
Speaker 2: were only two ways in which I wasn't going to
49:31
Speaker 2: in the end be able to come back and say
49:33
Speaker 2: I told you so you know what those two would be.
49:36
Speaker 2: I would be fired or I would die. As long
49:38
Speaker 2: as I didn't get fired or I didn't die, I
49:41
Speaker 2: it was such a cinch that this was going to
49:43
Speaker 2: be a fiasco that I'd be able to come back.
49:46
Speaker 3: So what does this mean?
49:47
Speaker 2: Watchino, watch Meino, keel over and die? I have no
49:49
Speaker 2: more meaning in life, no purpose in living. I was
49:53
Speaker 2: the trolley was a bust, as I said it all
49:55
Speaker 2: right again. They're trying to convince Sean Duffy to free
49:58
Speaker 2: them the requirement under grant that since the Feds gave
50:02
Speaker 2: them this money to be used for something for transportation,
50:04
Speaker 2: they have to keep running the street car forever and
50:06
Speaker 2: ever and ever. Releasing the City of Milwaukee from these
50:10
Speaker 2: grant obligations would request would represent an extraordinary step by
50:14
Speaker 2: the federal government, and we recognize the gravity of this request. However,
50:18
Speaker 2: we believe the decades of sunk costs and the annual
50:22
Speaker 2: hemorrhaging of taxpayer resources will only continue if the federal
50:26
Speaker 2: government does not take direct action. Granting this relief would
50:30
Speaker 2: not only eliminate wasteful spending, but allow for these funds
50:33
Speaker 2: to be redirected to core services. I would point out
50:38
Speaker 2: their excuse for not hiring more cops and firefighters.
50:40
Speaker 3: Et cetera goes away.
50:42
Speaker 2: We appreciate your thoughtful consideration of this proposal to release
50:45
Speaker 2: the City of Milwaukee from their federal obligation for the
50:48
Speaker 2: streetcar and order to discontinue operations. Thank you for your
50:50
Speaker 2: attention to this matter. Yeah, you get the ending of that,
50:53
Speaker 2: don't you?
50:56
Speaker 3: Who else? And who else? Who's the other person?
50:59
Speaker 2: Who? In everything? Thank you for your attention to this matter.
51:03
Speaker 2: Trump Trump puts that at the end of every one
51:05
Speaker 2: of his posts. So that's why they conclude. The signing
51:08
Speaker 2: signed by Bob Donovan and Bangwangard, who members of the
51:11
Speaker 2: state legislature who represent parts of their district include portions
51:16
Speaker 2: of the city of Milwaukee. The districts go on to
51:21
Speaker 2: others other segments as well. Wisconsin Institute of Law and
51:26
Speaker 2: Liberty sent a letter to the United States Department of Justice,
51:31
Speaker 2: again trying to draw attention to the fact the Wisconsin
51:34
Speaker 2: Election Commission has still not fully purged names on the
51:38
Speaker 2: voter roles that appear not to be legitimate anymore. And
51:42
Speaker 2: in some cases, people move, some cases, people die, et cetera.
51:45
Speaker 2: But the people there's forty one thousand people on the
51:48
Speaker 2: voter roll in which there is no evidence that they
51:51
Speaker 2: reside at the place that they are they because they've moved,
51:54
Speaker 2: they've died, et cetera. So they're asking the Department of
51:57
Speaker 2: Justice to do this. I think it is a good request. However,
52:02
Speaker 2: as I insist on continuing to point out there are
52:07
Speaker 2: some people that are focused on election integrity in Wisconsin
52:10
Speaker 2: who obsess over this matter of the voter rolls. My
52:13
Speaker 2: response to that is the voter roles is not unimportant. However,
52:18
Speaker 2: it is a tiny portion of the problem. It's not
52:25
Speaker 2: the major problem. If someone's name is on a voter
52:31
Speaker 2: role but nobody votes in that name, it's kind of
52:34
Speaker 2: a no harm, no foul. What you have to do
52:37
Speaker 2: is prove that some of these forty one thousand people
52:40
Speaker 2: actually have voted, when in fact they don't exist. That's
52:43
Speaker 2: a sign of fraud. The bigger problem is I keep
52:46
Speaker 2: pointing out, and unfortunately there's some people in the right
52:48
Speaker 2: that I just think they don't fully understand this because
52:51
Speaker 2: they've listened to a handful of people that are Charlatan's
52:53
Speaker 2: and one of the people that they listen to is
52:55
Speaker 2: a convicted con man who's going on about the.
52:58
Speaker 3: Voter roles thing.
52:58
Speaker 2: And again, I'm not saying the voter roles in an issue.
53:00
Speaker 2: The real problem is same day voter registration. You're concerned
53:04
Speaker 2: about a name that's been on the rolls for three years.
53:06
Speaker 2: My concern is somebody's name gets on the roll one
53:09
Speaker 2: minute before you give them a ballot. That's where the
53:12
Speaker 2: fraud occurs. People showing up with some bogus identification and
53:18
Speaker 2: they get the ballot and it's in there. Yes, that
53:21
Speaker 2: name that is on the voter rolls after the fact,
53:23
Speaker 2: but the damage has been done, and often those fake
53:26
Speaker 2: votes are cast only the one time by people who
53:28
Speaker 2: same day register. Same day registration is the core a
53:32
Speaker 2: vote fraud in Wisconsin. Photo ID has helped, but as
53:38
Speaker 2: anybody who's ever seen I don't go to them many
53:41
Speaker 2: bars anymore. But this is a big problem in fluid,
53:44
Speaker 2: as anybody who's ever seen an eighteen year old at
53:47
Speaker 2: a bar will attest, I swear there are more fake
53:50
Speaker 2: IDs than there are actual ideas. They've gotten very good
53:53
Speaker 2: at making those things. There are certain things that you
53:55
Speaker 2: look now that they have the real idea on the
53:57
Speaker 2: driver's license, but a lot of them they don't give
53:59
Speaker 2: you a driver's life since they just give you an
54:00
Speaker 2: ID card because those are easier to uh, you know
54:04
Speaker 2: about all of that stuff, don't you?
54:08
Speaker 3: You had one?
54:08
Speaker 2: Because when you're fifteen, see see Paul's a little bit
54:13
Speaker 2: younger than me, well a decade younger than me. I
54:15
Speaker 2: never needed a fake ID.
54:20
Speaker 3: Paul, I don't think I've ever been carded in my life.
54:24
Speaker 2: First of all, I was the drinking age was eighteen
54:27
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, But there were fifteens and
54:30
Speaker 2: six fifteen and sixteen year olds of drink and I
54:33
Speaker 2: just can't. I'm not saying it never happened. I can't
54:35
Speaker 2: recall anybody ever telling you you couldn't. Just a totally
54:39
Speaker 2: different era. What I have needed that for? You know,
54:45
Speaker 2: Plus I'm in Kakana. If I go to like I
54:47
Speaker 2: should name some of the bars that are see that's
54:50
Speaker 2: the problem with bar names. They all sound stupid. But yeah,
54:53
Speaker 2: Harry's tapping, in fact, that was the bar I went
54:55
Speaker 2: to an Oshkash. Harry's taping was on the there's this
54:58
Speaker 2: street in Oshkosh. She was intersect called the four corners
55:01
Speaker 2: you know where that was there were three hot young
55:04
Speaker 2: bars on each corner. And Harry's was for old farts
55:07
Speaker 2: for some on the softball team that are stationed at
55:10
Speaker 2: a softball team and you know, the losing team supposed
55:14
Speaker 2: to buy drinks after the game. But we're a radio station.
55:17
Speaker 2: We can't bring up more with this. You kind of
55:18
Speaker 2: have to adopt a bar if your sponsored resident. Harry's
55:20
Speaker 2: was our bars, so we would go over there and
55:24
Speaker 2: then go across the street and try to use our
55:26
Speaker 2: softball uniforms to try to woo attractive young women, which,
55:28
Speaker 2: by the way, that that was just a fool proof.
55:31
Speaker 2: There were guys I knew who would wear their softball
55:34
Speaker 2: uniform when they weren't even playing, just to go into
55:36
Speaker 2: bars and hit on women.
55:38
Speaker 3: Does that still go on?
55:40
Speaker 2: People even play softball anymore? I think the bulls that
55:44
Speaker 2: it would work against you more. I mean the young
55:46
Speaker 2: people still play softball. I mean there's still the fields
55:49
Speaker 2: out there. I just don't think it's as big as
55:51
Speaker 2: it once was. Softball is a great game. I mean
55:56
Speaker 2: faster at softballs is a fantastic game with just really
55:59
Speaker 2: really hard the ball. Because pictures are so good. Slow
56:01
Speaker 2: pitch softball, I mean, anybody could play that. I mean, yeah,
56:05
Speaker 2: they're playing pickleball well, but that's why young.
56:08
Speaker 3: People shouldn't play pick a ball.
56:10
Speaker 2: Pickleball should be left to older people because that's all
56:13
Speaker 2: they can play. And young people should be playing softball
56:15
Speaker 2: in tennis because they're still healthy enough to run. You know, tennis,
56:18
Speaker 2: you have to run from side to side and do
56:19
Speaker 2: all that pickleball, you only have to take three steps.
56:22
Speaker 2: So that's why old people should play pickleball and young
56:24
Speaker 2: people should do so. Instead, you've got young people that
56:26
Speaker 2: have to come in and steal away pickleball just because
56:28
Speaker 2: they want something that's easy. It's like people who play
56:31
Speaker 2: disc golf rather than golf. You know, disc golf is
56:35
Speaker 2: as so far as I can tell, disc golf is
56:37
Speaker 2: like playing frizzy playing golf, only you use it a frisbee.
56:40
Speaker 3: Isn't that kind of what? Isn't that kind of what
56:41
Speaker 3: it is? Yeah?
56:44
Speaker 2: I just put well play golf, for crying out loud.
56:49
Speaker 2: It is kind of Golf is expensive. You know what
56:51
Speaker 2: the most expensive I you know what the most expensive
56:54
Speaker 2: thing for me and golf was. Remember I was terrible
56:57
Speaker 2: the number of balls I lost the course I played,
56:59
Speaker 2: and I was in high school. I mean it was
57:01
Speaker 2: called Oakwood Hills, long since gone. It was hills, and
57:05
Speaker 2: there was cricks and it was brush and I mean,
57:08
Speaker 2: first of all, I'm broke. I would spend twenty five
57:11
Speaker 2: minutes looking for my ball, play on through, play on,
57:14
Speaker 2: I'm not giving up on this thing. There's like a
57:16
Speaker 2: frog that has swallowed my golf ball and there were
57:19
Speaker 2: snakes and all of the stuff that we're down in there,
57:22
Speaker 2: and well, oh that's what I would mostly do, and
57:28
Speaker 2: you play other people's walls. But that means the ball
57:29
Speaker 2: you're playing is a water log ball, which isn't gonna
57:32
Speaker 2: go very far. But a sliced up water log ball
57:35
Speaker 2: is still a free ball as opposed to Even then,
57:39
Speaker 2: the titleist was like, that was the ball that like
57:41
Speaker 2: a guy like me could never have. The only time
57:43
Speaker 2: I would play a titleist is if I found somebody
57:45
Speaker 2: else's lost ball that.
57:46
Speaker 3: Was stuck in there. It's still kind of the go
57:51
Speaker 3: to ball, isn't it.
57:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I see the The only reason I know
57:55
Speaker 2: that really is when you watch golf on TV, they
57:58
Speaker 2: often do a close up of the ball in the
57:59
Speaker 2: green and oil Boy, it seems like almost all of
58:02
Speaker 2: them are titleists said, yeah, some are in Ikea, which
58:05
Speaker 2: is sponsorship of it, But I think most of the pros.
58:08
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you see more than half of the balls you
58:09
Speaker 2: see would be titleists when you watch the pro golf.
58:13
Speaker 2: Nothing more clearly to say in any of that. This
58:15
Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
58:23
Speaker 3: All right.
58:23
Speaker 2: Now here's one of the things that in the future
58:26
Speaker 2: all sorts of people are going to claim that they
58:29
Speaker 2: did but will not have done it. The ultimate example
58:32
Speaker 2: of this, and we've discussed this over the years, is
58:36
Speaker 2: this is an old person's reference, but some of you
58:38
Speaker 2: will get it. People who claim that they were at
58:40
Speaker 2: the ice Bowl. Right. We have the example we always
58:45
Speaker 2: cite is one of the people that ran the company
58:48
Speaker 2: that ran my cruise Forever, Peggy Crawl. Her father, no,
58:51
Speaker 2: she she actually was at the Ice Bowl. And my
58:54
Speaker 2: rule of thumb, as somebody who was a kid and
58:58
Speaker 2: grew up in the Fox Valley at the time, is
59:00
Speaker 2: that anybody who claims that they were at the ice
59:01
Speaker 2: Bowl is lying, and you're going to be right ninety.
59:03
Speaker 3: Five percent of the time. At the time lambeau.
59:05
Speaker 2: Field held about fifty thousand people, and I swear about
59:08
Speaker 2: one million people have claimed that they were at the
59:09
Speaker 2: ice Bowl. So that means that the overwhelming majority could
59:12
Speaker 2: not have been there. So my default position is you're lying,
59:15
Speaker 2: but we don't pay you. Is very honest, is a
59:18
Speaker 2: very honest person, and there was a significant amount of proof.
59:22
Speaker 2: And see that's the thing, if you actually were there,
59:25
Speaker 2: you would hate the people who lie about it more
59:27
Speaker 2: than anybody, right, yeah, I mean you were there, all right. Well,
59:31
Speaker 2: this is one of those things. I watched all of
59:36
Speaker 2: Game three of the World Series, the eighteen inning game.
59:40
Speaker 2: I know most people were not, and I can tell
59:43
Speaker 2: you the time that it ended our time, because I
59:45
Speaker 2: looked at my phone to see the time and then
59:48
Speaker 2: went to bed. Fortunately, the game was I do my
59:51
Speaker 2: podcast Monday, Wednesday and Thursday. This was Monday night, so
59:55
Speaker 2: I didn't have a podcast on Tuesday, so there's no
59:57
Speaker 2: real reason to have to go to bed other than
59:59
Speaker 2: I wanted to get a lot of things done on
1:00:00
Speaker 2: I was going to get up early on Tuesday, one
1:00:03
Speaker 2: fifty one of the morning. So I watched all eighteen
1:00:06
Speaker 2: innings of that game. And I know most people did not.
1:00:09
Speaker 2: It's going to go down and years to come as
1:00:12
Speaker 2: one of the greatest games ever played and all of
1:00:14
Speaker 2: that stuff. So I actually did stay up and watch
1:00:17
Speaker 2: the whole dog one thing this World Series. Right now,
1:00:20
Speaker 2: it's two to two as of the time we're doing
1:00:21
Speaker 2: this podcast, and it is impossible to predict. Both teams
1:00:26
Speaker 2: are flawed, both teams have great strengths. The weaknesses of
1:00:30
Speaker 2: the pitching staff showed up as showed up in times
1:00:33
Speaker 2: for both of those teams. But then you had the
1:00:35
Speaker 2: eighteen inning game, which was just so bizarre, in which
1:00:38
Speaker 2: the best pitchers were guys that are on the back
1:00:40
Speaker 2: ends of both teams bullpens. Former brewer Eric Lower pitched
1:00:43
Speaker 2: four or five shutoutings for Toronto. The Dodgers' last four
1:00:47
Speaker 2: innings were pitched by a guy who spent most of
1:00:50
Speaker 2: the season in Triple A and was terrible in Triple A.
1:00:54
Speaker 2: His World Series outing was the longest outing of his
1:00:56
Speaker 2: major league career, but he was the last guy in
1:00:58
Speaker 2: the bullpit anyway. I actually, I know you didn't stay
1:01:04
Speaker 2: up and to see the say you did.
1:01:06
Speaker 3: I did.
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Speaker 2: And it was one of those deals in which once
1:01:10
Speaker 2: you got to the tenth or eleventh inning, it's not
1:01:13
Speaker 2: like when it's the tenth inning, you know it's gonna
1:01:14
Speaker 2: go eighteen. Now I should point on for people who
1:01:18
Speaker 2: don't follow baseball real closely.
1:01:19
Speaker 3: They have a new rule in baseball started.
1:01:21
Speaker 2: A few years ago that in extra innings, each team
1:01:24
Speaker 2: starts with a man on second base. It's to prevent this.
1:01:26
Speaker 2: But that rule does not go into effect in the postseason,
1:01:29
Speaker 2: so you don't have that. So the potential for a
1:01:32
Speaker 2: game to go on as long as this one does exist,
1:01:34
Speaker 2: but usually they don't. So it's like the tenth inning. Okay,
1:01:38
Speaker 2: well I'm gone this. I turn it off, and it's
1:01:39
Speaker 2: the eleventh. Now it's the thirteenth.
1:01:41
Speaker 3: That's the fifteenth.
1:01:42
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna give up after fifteen because you know,
1:01:44
Speaker 2: dog gone well that the moment you give up, they
1:01:46
Speaker 2: were gonna somebody's gonna score like fifteen seconds after you
1:01:49
Speaker 2: turn the TV. I was at the Bucks game last night,
1:01:54
Speaker 2: which would be Tuesday night. Something happened at that game
1:01:58
Speaker 2: that has made'll lose. Yeah, And I was at think,
1:02:02
Speaker 2: first of all, I'm at the game. My seats are
1:02:04
Speaker 2: pretty good. I'm like twelve ros behind the Bucks bench.
1:02:08
Speaker 2: Unless nobody's talking, you don't hear anything on the court,
1:02:11
Speaker 2: but he's yelling at screaming.
1:02:12
Speaker 3: The only time you.
1:02:13
Speaker 2: Hear something on the court is if there's somebody shooting
1:02:15
Speaker 2: a free throw and somebody yells something UF. It's in
1:02:17
Speaker 2: a quiet moment, et cetera. So I didn't hear this,
1:02:20
Speaker 2: but the reporter for the Athletic, which is owned by
1:02:22
Speaker 2: New York Times did, and he's done a story and
1:02:25
Speaker 2: this thing has just gone fire.
1:02:27
Speaker 3: Well anyway, if you hit.
1:02:28
Speaker 2: The Bucks have only played four games so far this
1:02:29
Speaker 2: season the three on one, but Yannis has been phenomenal.
1:02:33
Speaker 2: First of all, he's a phenomenal player, but secondly, he's
1:02:36
Speaker 2: one of these guys that only has one gear, so
1:02:39
Speaker 2: he's gonna start the season as if it's Game seven
1:02:41
Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals. So he's playing really, really hard,
1:02:43
Speaker 2: and he's been off to and off the charts start.
1:02:48
Speaker 2: The Bucks have looked very good, and a theory that
1:02:52
Speaker 2: I've held that they're going to be better.
1:02:53
Speaker 3: Without Damian Lillard seems to work.
1:02:57
Speaker 2: Lillard was a very good scorer, but he's slowed down
1:02:59
Speaker 2: the team, and the Bucks are playing at a much
1:03:02
Speaker 2: greater pace and Yannis's game is one of pace rather
1:03:05
Speaker 2: than hanging.
1:03:05
Speaker 3: Around, and it aids the team.
1:03:07
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yannis made one of those spectacular only Yannis type
1:03:11
Speaker 2: plays in which guy's going in for a layup and
1:03:14
Speaker 2: he makes this freakish, freakish incredible block and then saves
1:03:17
Speaker 2: the ball and fires the ball to Miles Turner who
1:03:20
Speaker 2: goes off.
1:03:20
Speaker 3: And scores it.
1:03:21
Speaker 2: It was just it's one of those just highlight moments
1:03:22
Speaker 2: that Yannis seems to do to a game, but it's
1:03:25
Speaker 2: really strong one. What I did not know until I
1:03:27
Speaker 2: read this this morning is Yannis then screamed at the
1:03:32
Speaker 2: you know they want a player makes a great play,
1:03:34
Speaker 2: players a scream, the other team calls a timeout, and
1:03:35
Speaker 2: you'll do it. But I didn't know what he's screaming.
1:03:37
Speaker 2: Yannas screamed at the top of his lungs, this is
1:03:40
Speaker 2: my city now. The reason this is relevant is there
1:03:44
Speaker 2: been rumors everywhere in the media that Yannis will be
1:03:48
Speaker 2: traded in the middle of the season, that if the
1:03:50
Speaker 2: Bucks are not a contender for a championship, the time
1:03:54
Speaker 2: to move on from Yannis will be here. And I mean, obviously,
1:03:57
Speaker 2: if the Bucks traded Yiannis in the middle of He's
1:03:59
Speaker 2: got two years left in his contract. If they traded
1:04:01
Speaker 2: him in the middle of the season, the hall would
1:04:03
Speaker 2: be astronomical. The problem with trading him to a contender, though,
1:04:08
Speaker 2: is contenders draft choices are useless. You trade Giannis, you
1:04:11
Speaker 2: want to get like nineteen first round draft choices and
1:04:14
Speaker 2: all of that stuff. But if you trade him to
1:04:16
Speaker 2: a team that has a good record, that first round
1:04:18
Speaker 2: draft pick is at the end of the draft. That's
1:04:20
Speaker 2: what makes it problematic. You often end up therefore trading
1:04:23
Speaker 2: for say the five or six best young players that
1:04:26
Speaker 2: that team has. You try to do a three wing
1:04:28
Speaker 2: get another team. Anyway, there have been these rumors and
1:04:30
Speaker 2: rumors and rumors and rumors, and Giannis has said that
1:04:32
Speaker 2: I want to be in Milwaukee as long as we're contender,
1:04:34
Speaker 2: and he keeps saying that, but what if you're not
1:04:36
Speaker 2: a contender, So this proclamation, this is my city. Yeah,
1:04:44
Speaker 2: And then when the heat went on to say, I
1:04:45
Speaker 2: can't say it even though every other bring in. We
1:04:48
Speaker 2: should bring in Meghan Kelly to outsourced my swearing to
1:04:51
Speaker 2: Megan Kelly since she swears all the time.
1:04:53
Speaker 3: I swear.
1:04:54
Speaker 2: She loves to say the I think she gets off
1:04:56
Speaker 2: saving the F bob. Don't you just think that that's
1:05:00
Speaker 2: our excitement in life? Yeah, so when we need to
1:05:04
Speaker 2: say the F bomb, we should bring in Meg and
1:05:06
Speaker 2: Kelly to read the life. I actually think I could
1:05:11
Speaker 2: get her to do that once. She's such a self promoter, Rigie, Meg,
1:05:14
Speaker 2: and I need somebody to say the F bomb. You
1:05:16
Speaker 2: record this. If I could get that to the right person,
1:05:18
Speaker 2: she would actually anyway, she said. And then Yana said,
1:05:22
Speaker 2: and I ain't f and leaving. Well, it was a
1:05:27
Speaker 2: state of the It was a statement in the passion
1:05:31
Speaker 2: of the moment. But the reality is is that the
1:05:33
Speaker 2: guy is in what is this is he eleventh year,
1:05:34
Speaker 2: twelfth year in Milwaukee. He hasn't left in a sport
1:05:37
Speaker 2: in which there's a couple of guys. Steph Curry never
1:05:40
Speaker 2: let has never left Golden State, Kobe never left the Lakers.
1:05:43
Speaker 2: But the overwhelming majority of players are Kevin Durantz who
1:05:46
Speaker 2: are on six, seven, eight nine different teams, and Yannis
1:05:50
Speaker 2: has been here a long time. At some point he's
1:05:52
Speaker 2: probably going to leave. And you know, it may be
1:05:54
Speaker 2: this year, or it maybe in three years, or it
1:05:56
Speaker 2: may be when a Michael Jordan thing he retires and
1:06:00
Speaker 2: comes back at the age of thirty seven years old.
1:06:02
Speaker 2: But it was a powerful statement, and the story's become
1:06:06
Speaker 2: a big, big deal. And I'm just guessing that he's
1:06:09
Speaker 2: energized by how well and it's so early, four games,
1:06:11
Speaker 2: so well the team is played in the fact that
1:06:14
Speaker 2: he's adored by Bucks fans and he's one of these
1:06:19
Speaker 2: you know, some athletes in a city are hermits and
1:06:23
Speaker 2: you never see him anywhere, And then there are others
1:06:25
Speaker 2: in which they're just spotted all the time. And Giannis
1:06:28
Speaker 2: is one of those people that just spotted all the
1:06:29
Speaker 2: time everywhere in well yeah, well yeah, and that I
1:06:35
Speaker 2: mean he's got he's on the way to having fifty
1:06:37
Speaker 2: five kids apparently. I mean MARIAHS. Crankin went out at
1:06:42
Speaker 2: the rate of about one per year, et cetera. But
1:06:45
Speaker 2: he's also a funny guy. But he just he's a
1:06:46
Speaker 2: Milwaukee guy and he likes it. He already likes doing
1:06:48
Speaker 2: these things, and he likes to be seen. And Milwaukee
1:06:51
Speaker 2: is a community. And when I say Milwaukee, I mean
1:06:53
Speaker 2: Wisconsin in terms of sports fans. When they sense that
1:06:57
Speaker 2: a player is happy to be here, there's an embracing
1:07:01
Speaker 2: of him. And after Aaron Rodgers' career is over, that
1:07:05
Speaker 2: will happen with him. And the same way that after
1:07:08
Speaker 2: Brett Favre's career was over, that he played a couple
1:07:11
Speaker 2: of years elsewhere, that will be over as well, because
1:07:14
Speaker 2: you had even in the case of Rogers, he was
1:07:17
Speaker 2: a guy that showed up at nineteen thousand things and
1:07:19
Speaker 2: he was around all over the place.
1:07:21
Speaker 3: And so on.
1:07:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there are other athletes that just you know,
1:07:26
Speaker 2: they're concerned about their privacy and their safety and their security,
1:07:29
Speaker 2: and you never see him anywhere. But Yiannis is just
1:07:31
Speaker 2: one of those guys you see all the time to
1:07:35
Speaker 2: the point that, oh, there's Yannis. You know, if you're
1:07:37
Speaker 2: from out of town, maybe you'd be shocked to see him.
1:07:39
Speaker 3: But there's some people.
1:07:41
Speaker 2: It's like a once every few weeks thing, and quickly
1:07:43
Speaker 2: on the Packers. There's another story that I found on
1:07:46
Speaker 2: that same website, The Athletic Today. The NFL trading deadline
1:07:53
Speaker 2: is it's now imminent. The one clear need the Packers
1:07:57
Speaker 2: have now. Teams don't make a lot of trades in
1:07:59
Speaker 2: the NFL in midseason. In baseball and basketball, zillions of them,
1:08:03
Speaker 2: but there is I think only one.
1:08:06
Speaker 3: There's knee.
1:08:06
Speaker 2: Every team has multiple needs, but only one glaring need.
1:08:10
Speaker 2: The Packers have and it's the position that I worried
1:08:12
Speaker 2: about at the beginning of the year. They have a
1:08:15
Speaker 2: glaring need at cornerback. They benched Nate Hobbs during the
1:08:19
Speaker 2: game against Pittsburgh this past Sunday. Nate Hobbs signed a
1:08:22
Speaker 2: huge contract, four years, forty eight million. That's not all guaranteed.
1:08:25
Speaker 2: He came from the Raiders. The problem is he played
1:08:29
Speaker 2: the slot or Nickel. People use different terms, and he's
1:08:33
Speaker 2: being asked to play the pure corner position and he's
1:08:35
Speaker 2: not adapted to it, so they back and forth. They
1:08:38
Speaker 2: use him in Carrington Valentine and neither are are that good.
1:08:43
Speaker 2: On the other corner side, Keyshawn Nixon was very good
1:08:46
Speaker 2: most of this season, but at a terrible game against
1:08:49
Speaker 2: the Steelers, especially in the first half. Committed two penalties
1:08:52
Speaker 2: on third downs and was having difficulty. I think the
1:08:56
Speaker 2: Packers just look so strong everywhere to address and in football,
1:09:05
Speaker 2: you know the problem with addressing a need is you
1:09:07
Speaker 2: could trade for somebody and he gets hurt the next
1:09:09
Speaker 2: week and you have it. You just get injured so
1:09:11
Speaker 2: often in football. But to take this position of weakness
1:09:15
Speaker 2: and shore it up by going.
1:09:18
Speaker 3: And trading.
1:09:19
Speaker 2: Now, the Packers' trade capital is limited because they gave
1:09:21
Speaker 2: up so much for Micah Parsons. You'd probably have to
1:09:24
Speaker 2: trade another player, find a position at which you may
1:09:27
Speaker 2: have an excess to get a corner. And anyway, the
1:09:31
Speaker 2: story in the Athletic goes on a tremendous length about
1:09:34
Speaker 2: this and the deficiencies the Packers have had at the
1:09:37
Speaker 2: one corner and so on. I'm not going to suggest
1:09:41
Speaker 2: who it is that they should trade in order to
1:09:43
Speaker 2: do it. But if they can address this, you hate
1:09:47
Speaker 2: to do another draft choice. But I think you could
1:09:49
Speaker 2: get a good corner for a two or three second
1:09:51
Speaker 2: or third round pick. And I mean the Packers are
1:09:55
Speaker 2: in a situation in which it's so early in the
1:09:58
Speaker 2: season to say this, but they're one of six or
1:10:02
Speaker 2: seven or eight teams that I think you could say
1:10:04
Speaker 2: are a Super Bowl contender right well, and if they're not,
1:10:08
Speaker 2: it's going to be because either either key injuries or
1:10:11
Speaker 2: they're going to get burned a corner. Right There's also
1:10:15
Speaker 2: a lot of people who think they made a terrible
1:10:17
Speaker 2: mistake cutting Hamersack the kicker.
1:10:19
Speaker 3: Are you one of them?
1:10:23
Speaker 2: You don't know well the people I know, But he's
1:10:27
Speaker 2: he can, he can. Eventually he's going to be released
1:10:30
Speaker 2: and put on the injured list and not the injured
1:10:33
Speaker 2: list the what do they call that the practice squad,
1:10:36
Speaker 2: because you can't tie up two kickers on your squad
1:10:40
Speaker 2: and so on. McManus missed a couple of fields. On
1:10:42
Speaker 2: the other hand, he was coming back from an injury
1:10:44
Speaker 2: and McManus's long term track record is way way way better.
1:10:49
Speaker 3: And.
1:10:53
Speaker 2: No, he can't. But there's a reason why McManus has
1:10:55
Speaker 2: been in the league forever, and that this guy was.
1:10:57
Speaker 3: This guy was on the.
1:10:58
Speaker 2: Scrap heap when the Packers signed him weeks ago. Enough
1:11:00
Speaker 2: of our sports content. Do want to remind you that
1:11:02
Speaker 2: in the final segment on.
1:11:04
Speaker 3: The Thursday podcast, that's when we do our football agree.
1:11:12
Speaker 2: Paul wants to for if any season, I mean, I
1:11:14
Speaker 2: had a we had the same pick last week I had.
1:11:16
Speaker 2: Just there's I can't do worse than I did last
1:11:19
Speaker 2: week because every football pick that I had in my
1:11:22
Speaker 2: whole weekend I was rolling on. Mike pointed out to
1:11:25
Speaker 2: me that all but two games in the NFL were
1:11:28
Speaker 2: decided by more than ten points. First time had it
1:11:30
Speaker 2: ever happened? Okay, talk to later.
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Speaker 3: Bye.
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