Latest / Saberian History Lectures / Culture Clash and Politics in the 1920's
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- 0:00So, we were talking about reactions to the abrupt and decisive changes that occurred
- 0:06in American society in the period from 1910 to 1920.
- 0:11Now, I kind of want to get ahead of myself here, is America goes through a whole bunch
- 0:19of changes.
- 0:20You go through commercial changes with the rise of the consumer economy, where you are
- 0:29buying things for them to eventually lose value and be disposed of.
- 0:33By the way, what is the major consumable good that people were making payments on and lost
- 0:37value over time?
- 0:39Automobiles.
- 0:41Automobiles.
- 0:43That was the article I gave you where you want to leave the customer just a little bit
- 0:47unsatisfied so that they will buy the next model.
- 0:51Sound familiar?
- 0:52Actually, the debt cycle of automotive, how many of you are drive?
- 1:00How many of you are making a car payment of a type?
- 1:03Many of you, and don't worry when you're in the big bad world, you will.
- 1:07We even see this peppering our culture so much that, okay, how many of you saw the film
- 1:13Frozen?
- 1:14Do you remember the scene where the sled goes into the ravine?
- 1:22I just paid it off, where Christoph's sled goes into the ravine because they're being
- 1:27chased by wolves.
- 1:28He said, but I just paid it off with a whimper.
- 1:31You get the idea.
- 1:33That idea of credit economy has so peppered our culture that it even made its way into
- 1:41a child's fairy tale.
- 1:43Now I submit to you in a post-medieval fantasy world like that, you don't make payments on
- 1:47a sled.
- 1:48Actually, that would be, well, yes.
- 1:53Anyway, so you have a consumer economy.
- 1:56You also have changes to the demography of the United States as immigration resumes.
- 2:01So you have the cultural conflict between immigrants from southern and eastern Europe
- 2:09and what we would call nativist Americans.
- 2:12This would be your white Anglo-Sax and Protestant people from the hinterland who had been here
- 2:17for multiple generations.
- 2:20One of the places where that plays out, and then you also have the shift in the intellectual
- 2:25culture where you have biblical fundamentalists in conflict with interpretationists and secular
- 2:40humanists.
- 2:42So we'll just say fundamentalists versus the academy or versus academics, although there
- 2:48are plenty of academics that have sprung up around biblical fundamentalism now.
- 2:56And so each of these becomes sort of a battleground.
- 2:59And so we think of this in terms of prohibition and immigration acts in the demographics as
- 3:05an abrupt and decisive change that an immigration law, in the intellectual history, all of a
- 3:17sudden the schools become a battleground.
- 3:27And even you see the rise of the new Klan as a response to immigration.
- 3:33And of course the Klan was anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish, and anti-Darwin.
- 3:40So here's a photo from the Scopes Monkey Trial.
- 3:44John T. Scopes had the revolutionary audacity to teach evolution in a biology class in Dayton,
- 3:51Tennessee.
- 3:52Now why was it against the law for John T. Scopes to teach evolution in biology in the
- 3:58state of Tennessee?
- 4:01Now just Christianity.
- 4:03There was another implied idea that the book doesn't fully flesh out.
- 4:06This was not an issue of free speech.
- 4:10This was an issue of free intellectual thought except who was John T. Scopes working for?
- 4:19The school, which was being funded by what?
- 4:23The state.
- 4:24The state previously had a state any compunction to interfere in an instructor's purview.
- 4:33But now it's the state's money and now it's the state that is imposing the obligation
- 4:38upon the children to be educated.
- 4:40Would such a criminal prosecution have occurred even a hundred years earlier?
- 4:45No, because who funded education back then?
- 4:49Nope.
- 4:51No one.
- 4:53You had private tutors or you went to private school or you were being educated through
- 4:58the church apparatus.
- 4:59You were under no obligation in the 18th or even into the early 19th century to attend
- 5:04school beyond fourth grade.
- 5:07And so you have the progressive idea of compulsory education running into the fundamentalist
- 5:13idea of teaching the biblical truth.
- 5:17And so John T. Scopes broke the law.
- 5:21He was put on trial.
- 5:22He did of course lose his teaching position.
- 5:23It was a test case for the ACLU.
- 5:25The ACLU puts up Clarence Darrow, a New York attorney, and the state of Tennessee got William
- 5:32Jennings Bryan to prosecute the case.
- 5:35Now of course William Jennings Bryan had at that time run for president at least twice,
- 5:40was a darling of the Democratic Party, was a darling of the populist movement, was an
- 5:44orator of no ill repute.
- 5:47But it was branded the trial of the century broadcast over radio and over newspapers.
- 5:54It was a spectacle.
- 5:56Scopes was found guilty, was made to pay a fine, and the fine was waived.
- 6:05Fine was waived by the judge because the question for the jury was did Scopes teach evolution?
- 6:11Yes.
- 6:14What was being argued?
- 6:15Was that actually a crime?
- 6:22And so really what the defense was asking for was jury nullification.
- 6:26For those of you who are unfamiliar with the concept, jury nullification is where a jury
- 6:30finds a person not guilty of a crime even though they had broken the law because the
- 6:37law is somehow considered inappropriate or immoral.
- 6:40That's jury nullification.
- 6:42In this case the Tennessee jury did not wish to nullify the law but the judge set aside
- 6:47the consequences.
- 6:48Now just as if you thought your world wasn't ending already, you had in 1918 you had the
- 6:54world at war, you had the flu pandemic, and then you have the passage of prohibition.
- 7:00Prohibition comes into effect.
- 7:01Now I don't know about you but maybe after the war and the flu pandemic and maybe when
- 7:06the guys found out that the women were voting maybe some people could have used a good stiff
- 7:09drink but that wasn't going to happen.
- 7:11No?
- 7:12Too soon?
- 7:15Alright.
- 7:18So you have, now think about this for a moment, prohibition was prohibiting the consumption
- 7:23and sale but primarily the sale not the consumption of alcohol.
- 7:30Prohibiting the sale of alcohol not prohibiting the consumption.
- 7:35What could possibly go wrong?
- 7:39Is it actually against the law to consume?
- 7:42Only to what?
- 7:44To sell under the auspices of the government's power of interstate commerce.
- 7:48Now here's the thing that's kind of fun.
- 7:50Where do people drink?
- 7:53Where else?
- 7:56Everywhere yes.
- 7:58At home and in saloons.
- 8:01In cars not so much.
- 8:03I mean automobiles are not so prolific.
- 8:07But if you think about it as a law if you're going to get people to stop drinking all of
- 8:11a sudden you are interfering with what aspect of their life?
- 8:16Everything.
- 8:18Both private and social.
- 8:21Now I say this in a community that actually has deep German roots would it be taboo in
- 8:27a German family for your child to have a beer with dinner?
- 8:32Or wine with dinner?
- 8:33That actually is quite frequent in the old country.
- 8:37So you're not just closing down the bars you're getting into people's homes.
- 8:41Now who else drinks alcohol as a matter of religious practice?
- 8:47The Roman Catholic Church.
- 8:49Now they had to make special dispensation so that the body and blood of Christ according
- 8:56to their religious tradition could be maintained.
- 9:01Not that the government was about to have the ATF bust into the chapel and put the bishop
- 9:05in a choke hold although some of you are visualizing that and that's one of the virtues of visual
- 9:10language and some of you think it's funny.
- 9:12That tells me that some of you have an appetite for human cruelty.
- 9:16But anyway.
- 9:17In response you have the rise of organized crime syndicate that were running booze into
- 9:23the country because it was not illegal to drink in Canada.
- 9:26It was not illegal to drink in Mexico.
- 9:29It was not illegal to drink in other parts of the world.
- 9:32And so you have and also how else can you have alcohol just because maybe Anheuser-Busch
- 9:39took a break and some of your other major alcoholic producers took a break because of
- 9:43the prohibition.
- 9:44What else can you do?
- 9:48Sneak it but also how many of you know people who brew at home?
- 9:54Well, there's moonshine and there's a homebrewment for beer in this area.
- 10:03It's a rather sort of a hipster thing to do now.
- 10:06I know people who were doing it before it was cool.
- 10:11I just realized I just became the hipster meme.
- 10:13All I needed were the glasses.
- 10:15But anyway.
- 10:18But yeah you have people making their own.
- 10:20Actually nowadays moonshine has become a regulated trade in the United States which there are
- 10:26now hipster connoisseurs for moonshine.
- 10:29But anyway.
- 10:30So organized crime is often a response to it.
- 10:33Now here's a thing that you need to keep in mind.
- 10:37So if I'm looking at the Wilson administration from 1916 to 1920.
- 10:50What are the hallmarks of the Wilson regime?
- 10:53What was Wilson politically?
- 10:59Wilson was a Democrat.
- 11:00He was a progressive Democrat.
- 11:03Now what's interesting about Wilson's progressivism, he was progressive.
- 11:09He was a Democrat.
- 11:10And he was a Southern Democrat.
- 11:16From Virginia originally.
- 11:20Taught at Princeton.
- 11:21He was a professor of political science.
- 11:31Which at the time was a relatively speaking new discipline.
- 11:35What happened, what were the aspects of the progressive agenda?
- 11:39Well you have women's suffrage.
- 11:43What else?
- 11:47You have regulation of business both before the war and after.
- 11:56And what else do you have?
- 11:59The war itself.
- 12:05What did the war require?
- 12:09You have an increase in taxes.
- 12:15And you have the government of the United States getting into industry production, running
- 12:20a propaganda arm, turning itself on the communists.
- 12:23You have a massive expansion of the government apparatus both in terms of the domestic apparatus
- 12:31in the form of the war industries board, in the form of other rationing programs, and
- 12:35also in the security apparatus as you are funding the army and navy of the United States
- 12:41to be a world power.
- 12:43But here is the thing.
- 12:44What did the United States get out of the war?
- 12:49For all the blood, for all the treasure, for all the people who had died, what did they
- 12:54have to show for it?
- 12:55Did they have an additional state?
- 12:58Did they have an additional territory?
- 13:00Did they have tribute coming in from France or from England as a show of admiration or
- 13:08gratitude?
- 13:10What did the United States get out of their intervention into the world?
- 13:16Nothing.
- 13:17Instead, out of the war comes Wilson's 14 points.
- 13:24Now I'm going to recap the 14 points just for a moment.
- 13:28And with just enough snarks that you would actually feel the disdain because in many
- 13:33ways you are living in the legacy of that man and your world burns for it.
- 13:44You have the creation of weak states in Europe.
- 13:49Weak states become the kindling for fascism.
- 13:55Wilson didn't know.
- 13:57You have the demilitarization of Germany, which seemed like a good idea at the time.
- 14:06Unfortunately that made Germany a weak state for the kindling of fascism.
- 14:13You have the dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire.
- 14:17Let me give you some country names that were divvied up among the imperial powers of France
- 14:23and Britain, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Saudi Arabia.
- 14:35All but one of those is a war zone right now because when they drew the maps, they drew
- 14:41the maps for the imperial powers of Europe.
- 14:43They didn't draw the maps according to the ethnic lines of the people.
- 14:46The subject peoples were deliberately left out.
- 14:49But that wasn't why the American people were upset.
- 14:52The American people were dissatisfied because there was one last point in the philosopher
- 14:57king's panoply of brilliant ideas.
- 15:03What was the last point?
- 15:10The League of Nations.
- 15:11So the United States spent blood and treasure to fight a war over there, suffered the taxation,
- 15:17suffered the bureaucracy, suffered the expansion of the government, all to create a one world
- 15:22government that would tell the American people how they should govern their own country.
- 15:31That's what many would say in the 1920s.
- 15:33Now the thing that's actually funny is after this adventure with this philosopher king,
- 15:41the Republican argument was fairly simple.
- 15:46Make America normal again.
- 15:51So here's Harding.
- 15:55Harding was a pro-business Republican.
- 16:01I'm going to put that over here.
- 16:10He was an Ohio senator.
- 16:15He was the son of a farmer.
- 16:26And he basically said his fundamental argument was America needs a return to normalcy.
- 16:33No nostrums, no great adventures, no great brilliant philosophical points.
- 16:40It was very much to have some type of return to normalcy after a tumultuous decade that
- 16:45had preceded it.
- 16:47So let's get to, oh by the way, what happened to Wilson?
- 16:52Did he run for re-election?
- 16:53No, he had his two terms.
- 16:54Who ran?
- 16:57Cox, a person of very little repute, I mean very little name recognition, and FDR.
- 17:06I wasn't laughing, I'm talking about, but FDR was, I know, and that's more to cut out
- 17:12of the tape.
- 17:13Cox and FDR.
- 17:14So FDR ran for the VP slot, and then Harding ran with Coolidge.
- 17:23Coolidge in many ways was unremarkable.
- 17:28Harding prevails.
- 17:29Like I say, people were tired.
- 17:36Andrew Mellon is tapped to run either Treasury or Commerce.
- 17:41It's off the top of my head right now.
- 17:44So now let's talk about the legacy.
- 17:47Because really, this contrast between progressives and conservatives is laid bare in the 1920s.
- 17:58So let's talk about this for a moment.
- 18:00So under Wilson, and I put Wilson up there not as he advocated a position, but as the
- 18:04government was left off when he left off.
- 18:07So you have taxes.
- 18:09So both to fund the war and to fund the expansion of the government apparatus, the highest tax
- 18:13break in the United States was 73%.
- 18:16I mean, 73% of your income you gave to the government of the United States.
- 18:22So that's your top bracket.
- 18:26Under Harding, by the end of the Harding-Coolidge administration, I put this as a single period,
- 18:32the end of Harding-Coolidge, by 1929, the lowest tax rate was down to 24%.
- 18:45What does that do?
- 18:47If you are Harding, why?
- 18:49Why do you lower taxes?
- 18:51There is an ethical reason and there is a political reason.
- 18:54And there is a commercial reason.
- 18:56Politically, it's not going to be so hard to vote for you again?
- 19:01Economically.
- 19:02Economically, if the government is not taxing it, that money goes back into circulation,
- 19:14right?
- 19:15If people aren't taxed, what do they presumably do with the money that they do not have to
- 19:19pay in taxes?
- 19:21They either buy consumer goods or they invest it in stock or they somehow otherwise put
- 19:26it back into the economy.
- 19:28So actually the tax cuts in the 1920s are a source of capital that funds the economic
- 19:34boom.
- 19:35The other source of capital is credit.
- 19:38Credit, what am I talking about?
- 19:43Talked about it on Friday.
- 19:44Layaway.
- 19:45You don't have to pay for it all up front.
- 19:48That means you can actually extend your loans and buy more things.
- 19:52So you have the tax cuts, which means you're not paying as much in taxes.
- 19:54You have the credit economy that allows you to put things on layaway.
- 19:58This is part of the reason why you had such robust economic growth in the 1920s.
- 20:01Does that make sense?
- 20:03So it's not just layaway, it's also the tax cuts.
- 20:06Now, what's the moral reason for cutting taxes?
- 20:14What is taxation if you really think about it?
- 20:17You work, you get paid, and the government takes it.
- 20:25One sociologist once said, taxation is merely pro-social theft.
- 20:34You get the idea.
- 20:35Now, I'm going to keep going real quick.
- 20:39Yeah?
- 20:40How much does the government take out of our paychecks?
- 20:44Have you looked at your last paycheck?
- 20:47I would say they usually take about one fourth and then you get it back in the form of a
- 20:52tax return.
- 20:54By the way, don't forget to file your tax returns.
- 20:58All right.
- 21:01Now another aspect of the Wilsonian Progressive Agenda was regulating corporations.
- 21:08Now, so you have the creation of a number of government entities for regulating corporations
- 21:18under the Wilson regime.
- 21:20Those corporations, or those regulatory agencies are authorized by Congress.
- 21:25As a president, can you dismantle a regulatory agency?
- 21:29No.
- 21:30Congress has to do that if you're going to can a regulatory agency.
- 21:33As Ronald Reagan once said, a regulatory agency is the closest thing that one will have to
- 21:39eternal life in this world.
- 21:43But what can you do as president?
- 21:48You can appoint pro-business regulators to head up those agencies.
- 21:58Business is the business of the government of these United States.
- 22:05Okay.
- 22:09Actually kind of interesting, Harding begins a desegregation process in the Civil Service.
- 22:15Who had segregated the Civil Service?
- 22:19Wilson, son of the South.
- 22:37Used the domestic law enforcement apparatus to attack the Klan, whereas previously the
- 22:43Klan had been part of Woodrow Wilson's political coalition.
- 22:46And The Birth of a Nation was one of Wilson's favorite movies.
- 22:52Okay, a couple of things.
- 22:55In the Harding administration, you actually have the lowest unemployment rate in American
- 23:03history.
- 23:04Unemployment was 2.4.
- 23:07That's full employment.
- 23:09You go south of 5, you're considered at full employment.
- 23:14Okay.
- 23:17One other thing that you need to keep in mind.
- 23:22What's one thing that the Wilson administration had to pay a very large sum of money on?
- 23:35Military spending.
- 23:36You had to fund the troops in the field, also there were designs to expand the United States
- 23:41as a naval power.
- 23:43If you are Warren G. Harding and you're trying to cut taxes, you also know that you have
- 23:49to cut spending.
- 23:51And so one of the things that Harding actually does is he changes the foreign policy from
- 23:56an interventionist one to an isolationist one.
- 24:01And he is actually one of the, his State Department actually engages in arms control.
- 24:09Now remember when I'm talking arms control in the 1920s, I'm talking about naval tonnage
- 24:13ships.
- 24:15Battle ships, dreadnoughts, that sort of thing.
- 24:18So you have what's called the Five Power Treaty between the US, the UK, France, Italy, and
- 24:30Japan.
- 24:35But the primary driver behind that is battle ships cost money to build, to deploy, and
- 24:41you have to pay for the crews.
- 24:43By the way, what are some world powers that are not on the list of the Five Power Talks?
- 24:52Why isn't Germany on the list for the Five Power Talk?
- 24:55It was demilitarized under the Treaty of Versailles.
- 24:59Why is it Russia on the list of the Five Power Talks?
- 25:05Because of Bolshevik Revolution.
- 25:06Because of Bolshevik Revolution.
- 25:07Also, was Russia a major naval power after the Russo-Japanese War?
- 25:11No.
- 25:12So it's, we don't want to talk to you because you're communist and you're not a great naval
- 25:16power anymore.
- 25:19Russia won't be a great naval power until middle of the Cold War and even then.
- 25:25Okay, so those are the three major points of the Harding Agenda.
- 25:34Do we still hear the echo in some of the policies we have now?
- 25:40I mean in the last presidential election both of the major candidates thought that the Iraq
- 25:45intervention was a bad idea.
- 25:49Kind of interesting.
- 25:52Okay, setbacks for the unions.
- 25:56I'm going to go back to, so one of the things that was part of the Wilson Progressivist
- 26:06Coalition was the unions.
- 26:16Now when I'm talking about unions you actually have two employment situations.
- 26:20You have what's called a closed shop and an open shop.
- 26:24An open shop means you can work there at will.
- 26:31Closed shop means you must be a union member to work.
- 26:43How many of you currently work a wage job?
- 26:48And you have somewhere where you sign the papers that you work for the company at will
- 26:51that you have to provide two weeks notice.
- 26:53You are not subject to collective bargaining, yes?
- 26:57Did you know that actually in parts of the northeast even the grocery store sackers are
- 27:02unionized?
- 27:06Now unions in addition to being part of the Democratic coalition are, what do they do?
- 27:17They advocate for the workers.
- 27:22What is their principle means of advocation?
- 27:25The most painful.
- 27:27Strikes.
- 27:29What do strikes do?
- 27:31Stops work, yes?
- 27:33So if I look at the party labels for a moment, in the Democratic coalition I have immigrants,
- 27:40I have unions, and then down south I have southern agrarians.
- 27:49We'll just call them southern conservatives and I'm going to put the Klan in parentheses
- 27:52because if you were a southern conservative Democrat by day you might have been wearing
- 27:57a white hood and riding around at night.
- 27:59In the Republican coalition you have western farmers
- 28:09and business interests.
- 28:10If I am a businessman do I like unions?
- 28:16Because they slow down the work, they demand more money, they're agitators, they may have
- 28:19socialist sympathies, yes?
- 28:22So if I'm Harding or Coolidge I like open shop because if you don't have to join a union
- 28:29in order to work what happens to the union?
- 28:31It falls apart, it loses its power.
- 28:35So that's what I call the tactical reason behind Republican opposition to unions.
- 28:41There's also a moral reason behind it.
- 28:45What do you pay in order to be in a union?
- 28:50What do you pay?
- 28:53Union dues.
- 28:54What does union dues then become if you think about it?
- 29:00Tax on working and the Republicans have already demonstrated an antipathy towards taxation
- 29:06and also if I continue it as a line of intellectual thought, abolition was about the freedom to
- 29:15work and the freedom to be compensated for the fruits of your labor.
- 29:20If you're paying union dues that union all of a sudden just became a parasite leeching
- 29:25off of the sustenance of the working man.
- 29:29So it fits their ethos tactically, it fits their ethos politically, morally and so they
- 29:36pushed for open shop work in the United States.
- 29:39There was a push to make closed shop work a federal thing and then they pushed against
- 29:43it.
- 29:48Isolation and foreign affairs attempted disarmament I talked about already.
- 29:52So here's the thing, number of Harding's people were kind of on the take.
- 29:56There was a scandal at the VA where the VA secretary was filching and reselling medical
- 30:01supplies.
- 30:02There was a scandal about who was getting a pardon and who wasn't.
- 30:05Then you have the Teapot Dome scandal.
- 30:07Basically the secretary of the Navy had leased federal oil contracts in Wyoming to a personal
- 30:14friend in exchange for kickbacks.
- 30:16So the Teapot Dome scandal was the first major scandal that actually implicated the White
- 30:20House.
- 30:21There were pressures.
- 30:22It became sort of the epitome of a White House gone wrong.
- 30:29Also kind of interesting, Warren Harding was actually a very charismatic person and he
- 30:34was very good with people, especially women.
- 30:38Men had quite a few extramarital affairs and loved children and was blackmailed on more
- 30:42than one occasion.
- 30:43Now kind of interesting, Warren Harding shortly at the tail end of his presidential term is
- 30:50staying in a hotel in San Francisco where he dies of a heart attack.
- 30:55No foul play.
- 30:58His vice president, Silent Cal Coolidge, succeeds him and actually wins in the election of 1924.
- 31:06Now the election of 1924 was kind of a lackluster election.
- 31:12You have the economy popping and so nobody wanted to change horses in the middle of the
- 31:17game.
- 31:18That was the idea.
- 31:20And actually I believe it's during this election that FDR posits that the only way the Republicans
- 31:27would actually lose their control on power would be an abrupt and decisive economic depression.
- 31:38Actually FDR said some very interesting things.
- 31:41Okay.
- 31:42Coolidge himself was not implicated in any of the scandals.
- 31:46One of the things that we don't really appreciate in modern times is just how detached the vice
- 31:51president is from the president.
- 31:53Now we have presidents choosing them as running mates and having them at the White House key
- 31:59in policy decision making at the time.
- 32:01Not really.
- 32:04It was just sort of oh show up to the Senate when we need you.
- 32:07Oh there it is.
- 32:09Moving on.
- 32:10So 1924 to 1928 you have the Coolidge administration mainly continuing Harding's tradition of
- 32:20cutting taxes and reducing spending.
- 32:23Then you have the next big election, 1928.
- 32:26This one is interesting in two ways.
- 32:29So Hoover is the, is a progressive Republican.
- 32:37He admired Woodrow Wilson.
- 32:39Hoover was himself an intellectual.
- 32:42He was a oil, or sorry, he was a mining engineer and an oil tycoon.
- 32:51He spoke to the virtues of American individualism.
- 32:56He did think that there was good to be done in the government to help the people.
- 33:02Now but if you're a Herbert Hoover who is in your electoral coalition?
- 33:09If you're a Republican who's in your electoral coalition?
- 33:13Western farmers, who else?
- 33:18Businessmen which includes progressives.
- 33:27So if you're Hoover do you upset your electoral coalition?
- 33:31Democrats put up Al Smith.
- 33:32Now Al Smith deserves a lot more credit than simply losing the 1928 election to Herbert
- 33:38Hoover.
- 33:39Al Smith is a Catholic.
- 33:42He is the first Catholic candidate for president and in many ways his nomination breaks the
- 33:51Democratic party coalition.
- 33:53And so you have Smith who is representing the interests of Northern immigrants as the
- 34:03Democratic nominee.
- 34:06But this breaks the two-fold block of the Democratic party.
- 34:11Northern immigrants are part of the voting block but the other part of the voting block
- 34:14is the Southern conservatives.
- 34:16Now the Southern conservatives are the ones that I've linked to the Klan.
- 34:21If you're part of the Klan you are anti-Catholic.
- 34:25And so Smith's nomination as the Democratic nominee causes the Southern Democrats to either
- 34:34stay at home or to vote against him and so in 1928 Hoover wins in a landslide.
- 34:41Now one of the things that's kind of interesting is later on in 1932 the Democratic party and
- 34:50the presidency fall to Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Al Smith walks away from the Democratic
- 34:58party becoming dissatisfied with the direction the party had taken in the face of Roosevelt's
- 35:07New Deal.
- 35:08It is Al Smith who Reagan quoted as saying that I have seen the Democratic transformed
- 35:15from the party of Jackson and Jefferson to the party of Marx and Lenin.
- 35:21And so Reagan looked to Al Smith as an example of one who had walked away from the Democratic
- 35:27party.
- 35:28Reagan himself was originally a Democrat who became a Republican.
- 35:31And actually sort of a little tidbit from history for those of you who were following
- 35:34the presidential campaign.
- 35:36The last campaign and it wasn't really a campaign event but the last major event before election
- 35:42day was the Al Smith dinner in New York which was sponsored by the Catholic Archdiocese
- 35:48of New York City.
- 35:49That was the last time that the two major presidential candidates Donald Trump and Hillary
- 35:54Clinton were in the same space.
- 35:57It was after the debates and it was kind of a celebrity roast.
- 36:00But what most people didn't tell you what most media types left out was Al Smith spoke
- 36:08out against the socialist tendencies that had come out of the Democratic party in the
- 36:13New Deal.
- 36:14Questions, problems, concerns or revelations.