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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast, the Call Me, Call Me Any
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Speaker 1: Any Time edition, as we take an in depth look
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Speaker 1: at eight possible players who could hear their name called
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Speaker 1: by the Bengals with a tenth pick in this year's draft.
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Speaker 1: greatest thing since Mike Turco. A couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: the NBC sportscaster called his first Super Bowl, then immediately
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Speaker 1: went down on the field and hosted primetime coverage of
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Speaker 1: the Olympics. After a quick trip to his hotel to
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Speaker 1: pick up his stuff, Mike then traveled six thousand miles
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Speaker 1: to Italy, a ten and a half hour flight to
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Speaker 1: continue hosting Olympic coverage on location the following night. I've
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Speaker 1: known Mike since he was a teenager. We were classmates
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Speaker 1: together at Syracuse University, and I knew then that he
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Speaker 1: was going to be a huge success. But it's still
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Speaker 1: a little bit crazy to see one of your college
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Speaker 1: buddies become one of the best sports broadcasters in history.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to combining hosting skills with play by playability, Mike,
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Speaker 1: Bob Costas, and Jim Nantz are at the top of
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Speaker 1: the pyramid. Now let's get to football. The NFL Draft
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Speaker 1: is a little more than two months away, but I
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Speaker 1: know that many of you have already zeroed in on
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Speaker 1: the player you are hoping the Bengals select with the
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Speaker 1: tenth overall pick. On this episode of the pod, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to focus on eight players who have been connected
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Speaker 1: to Cincinnati on mock drafts and talk to experts who
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Speaker 1: have watched them play. My Elite eight includes three Ohio
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Speaker 1: State Buckeyes who are all expected to be first round picks.
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Speaker 1: Six three three hundred twenty six pound defensive tackle Caden
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Speaker 1: McDonald six two hundred and forty three pound linebacker Sonny
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Speaker 1: Styles and six feet two hundred five pound safety Caleb Downs,
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Speaker 1: the players selected by the Bengals in more mock drafts
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Speaker 1: than any other. We are joined by Ohio State radio
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Speaker 1: analyst and former NFL Pro Bowl offensive lineman Jim Leche.
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Speaker 2: Jim.
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Speaker 1: Let's start with safety Caleb Downs. One scouting report that
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Speaker 1: I read referred to him as a generational talent at
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Speaker 1: the safety position. Do you think he's that good?
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Speaker 3: You know, I've had the good fortunately watching a lot
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Speaker 3: of great safeties, you know, come through Ohio State in
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Speaker 3: my last twenty nine years of doing the Buckeye games.
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Speaker 3: You know, Mike DAWs comes to the forefront, Malie Cooker,
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Speaker 3: Dante Whittner, Von Bell, Damon Moore, and then I heard
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Speaker 3: a lot of great stories about Mike Sensenball and of
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Speaker 3: course you can't leave out Jack Tatum.
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Speaker 2: But I think Caleb is a little bit of all
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Speaker 2: those guys. You know.
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Speaker 3: We came to Ohio State obviously from Alabama, and from
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Speaker 3: day one, he fit right into the program. Very mature athlete,
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Speaker 3: does what he has to do off the field.
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Speaker 2: Zero issues. He's a leader of the team.
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Speaker 3: He was a leader from really the first day that
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Speaker 3: he got here, and then you got to look at production.
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Speaker 3: Right at Alabama, he had one hundred tackles his freshman year,
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Speaker 3: came here to Ohio.
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Speaker 2: State, you know, ended up with two hundred and fifty.
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Speaker 3: Seven tackles for his career, one hundred and forty nine
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Speaker 3: at Ohio State. You know, just was an all purpose
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Speaker 3: type player. You know, he's kind of teased about not
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Speaker 3: get enough interceptions. He had four interceptions here the ohis
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Speaker 3: of State, six in his career.
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Speaker 2: But he's a guy that it was.
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Speaker 3: Dependable, you know, didn't have any injury problems, very durable athlete.
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Speaker 3: But you know, just again off the field, there were
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Speaker 3: zero issues with this guy. Just a great person, a
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Speaker 3: good guy, you know, good family guy, and you know
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Speaker 3: he comes from a good family of athletes, with his
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Speaker 3: dad playing gary and his brother obviously playing wide receiver
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Speaker 3: with the Colts. But they came here, fit right into
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Speaker 3: the program. You know, went through two different coordinators, which
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Speaker 3: with Jim Knowles and then Matt Patricia his final year,
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Speaker 3: and you know, picked up everything in a hurry and
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Speaker 3: not only picked it up, but you know, got everybody
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Speaker 3: else coached up and where they needed to be so
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Speaker 3: it's this one of those guys that you didn't have
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Speaker 3: to worry about that position. And it's so important to have,
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Speaker 3: you know, veteran type guys in that secondary understand what
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Speaker 3: they need to do, understand what really everybody needs to do.
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Speaker 3: And then you go out and you watch him play right,
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, very good in coverage, very good
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Speaker 3: at run support.
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Speaker 2: You know his ability.
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Speaker 3: I guess last year or two years ago in the
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Speaker 3: National Championship year twenty four where they had him, you know,
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Speaker 3: playing a little bit close to the line of scrimmage
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Speaker 3: almost you know, kind of backing up the linebackers near
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage for.
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Speaker 2: Him to see him recognize.
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Speaker 3: You know, the offense what they're doing, the hole where
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Speaker 3: the backs getting the ball and then knife in there
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Speaker 3: to get you know, go through blockers. Was impressive to
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Speaker 3: seeing this sure tackler, you know, a guy that done
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Speaker 3: miss tackles and also has ability.
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Speaker 2: To you know, play on special teams.
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Speaker 3: I think everybody remembers his you know, big part of
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Speaker 3: returning against Indiana in twenty twenty four that helped kind
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Speaker 3: of turn that ball game and get the momentum of
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Speaker 3: Ohio Stadium behind him. But just a fabulous guy and
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Speaker 3: a fableous athlete, and he's got all the measurables. You know,
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Speaker 3: he's big, you know, big enough for a safety. He's fast,
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Speaker 3: he's strong, and again the most important thing, he played
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Speaker 3: every ball game. So it's a guy that you can
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Speaker 3: count on to be back there and make plays.
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Speaker 1: He was a captain at Ohio State. You reference the
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Speaker 1: fact that his dad played in the NFL. He's got
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Speaker 1: a brother that's currently playing in the NFL, So it
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Speaker 1: sounds like the intangibles are extremely high in your view.
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Speaker 1: Does that help make the case that he's worthy of
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Speaker 1: being a top ten pick because safeties generally are not
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Speaker 1: taken in the top ten.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think when you look at some of the safeties
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Speaker 3: that recently has success, they were lower round draft choices
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Speaker 3: who just kind of picked it up. But I think,
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Speaker 3: you know, this is a guy's of generational type talents,
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Speaker 3: you know, because again of all the whole package, you know,
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Speaker 3: he's got the he's got the gene pool, so to
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Speaker 3: speak with his family.
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Speaker 2: You know, this guy, his dad, his brother playing in.
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Speaker 3: The NFL, the way he can diagnose things, just the
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Speaker 3: way he is.
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Speaker 2: On and off the field.
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Speaker 3: You know, there's just not many times you get a
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Speaker 3: guy like Keyaale Downs and you know, he's the guy
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Speaker 3: that I think that once you have him on your
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Speaker 3: team as physician, you don't have to worry about for
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Speaker 3: ten years. I mean, this guy's going to go out
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Speaker 3: and make plays. He's going to do the things on
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Speaker 3: and off the two what you need to do great leaders.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned being a captain for Ohio State. You know,
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Speaker 3: he came in here and just everybody kind of looked
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Speaker 3: up to him. And the really the only time that
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Speaker 3: you know he asked off for a practice or it
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Speaker 3: wasn't his choice, it was kind of a load management
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Speaker 3: through US spring ball, right, He's like, hey man, you
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Speaker 3: played a thousand stamps for you don't need to go today.
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Speaker 3: But watching those practices, he would be standing.
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Speaker 2: On the sideline Coach and everybody, uh, you know, just
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Speaker 2: inching to.
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Speaker 3: Get out there there and make plays. So he's the
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Speaker 3: guy that loves football. He loves practice, he loves the preparation,
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Speaker 3: and certainly that shows up on game day.
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Speaker 1: Jim, Let's turn to Sonny Styles because he's an interesting
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Speaker 1: case where the Bengals are concerned. They drafted two linebackers
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Speaker 1: last year. Those two guys started at rookies, but they
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Speaker 1: were very inconsistent. So drafting another linebacker isn't out of
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Speaker 1: the question. What do you think of Sonny as an
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Speaker 1: NFL prospect?
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Speaker 2: Great coverage. I mean, he's a guy that you know,
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Speaker 2: started as a safety here at Ohio State.
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Speaker 3: You know this, this is the guy that I've known
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Speaker 3: really since he's been in like sixth seventh grade. You know,
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Speaker 3: he would play basketball against my son Luke and AAU
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Speaker 3: and just to see how athletic he was on the
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Speaker 3: basketball court, he knew it would translate.
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Speaker 2: And then when he got to you know.
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Speaker 3: The football field, he's playing safety, was a big safety
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Speaker 3: back there, long arms, could reach, great coverage. Then they
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Speaker 3: moved him down in the box, and I go, okay,
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Speaker 3: now you got to play against offensive guards and centers
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Speaker 3: and tackles and you know, take on tiends blocks, and
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Speaker 3: you know, I think at first he had to kind
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Speaker 3: of work his way through that.
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Speaker 2: But once he developed, he gets stronger.
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Speaker 3: He got up to two hundred and forty some pounds
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Speaker 3: you know, from the two twenty range.
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Speaker 2: It didn't slow him down one bit.
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Speaker 3: It showed he showed he had all that ability. And
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Speaker 3: again it was a very productive guy. Just twenty one
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Speaker 3: years old, right, I mean he's he'll be twenty two
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Speaker 3: in his running.
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Speaker 2: You know, in November of his rookie year in the NFL.
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Speaker 3: There's there's not many guys that have that much football
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Speaker 3: underneath their belt.
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Speaker 2: That you know.
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Speaker 3: Came to Ohio State, which should have been his senior
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Speaker 3: year in high school, was on the field, contributing on
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Speaker 3: special teams, got a chance to play, and then was
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Speaker 3: a starter, you know, pretty much the rest of the
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Speaker 3: time out and you know, showed up and.
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Speaker 2: Got it down. You know, I kid it, Sonny. He
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Speaker 2: only had one interception at Ohio State. We were like, wow,
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Speaker 2: you fin he can catch. He finally got his hands
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Speaker 2: on football. We you know, gave him a hard time
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Speaker 2: about that a little bit. But just a humble guy. Again,
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Speaker 2: comes from good.
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Speaker 3: Fam I know his father, Lorenzo, you know, in his
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Speaker 3: time here at Ohio State, and got to know him
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Speaker 3: in the last couple of years on standing on the
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Speaker 3: sidelines again and watching practice and watching these guys work, just.
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Speaker 2: You know, an all American type guy that you.
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Speaker 3: Know, worked really hard, had forty three starts underneath his belt.
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Speaker 2: Here another guy that's.
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Speaker 3: Been durable's been able to you know, make make every game,
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Speaker 3: every practice. You know, it works extremely hard and loves
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Speaker 3: the game of football. And you know, when you draft
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Speaker 3: a guy in the first round, you got to make
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Speaker 3: sure they love football, because there's some guys you draft
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Speaker 3: early that just you know, wants a paycheck, right, I mean,
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Speaker 3: you know, football come becomes secondary. I don't think that's
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Speaker 3: the issue with a guy like Sonny Styles because again
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Speaker 3: on and off the field, just a great guy, does
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Speaker 3: great things in the community.
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Speaker 2: You know, along with his brother Lorenzo Styles Junior.
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Speaker 3: Both those guys have been great assets to a hot
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Speaker 3: state football program.
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Speaker 2: And then has.
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Speaker 3: Developed that strength where he can take on offensive line
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Speaker 3: and you saw him, especially in the Michigan game, fighting
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Speaker 3: off a lot of different guys, a lot of different
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Speaker 3: blocks and making tackles. I mean, when the games wh
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Speaker 3: it's a big time game, he figures out a way
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Speaker 3: to stand out.
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Speaker 2: Again, that's another quality that he has.
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Speaker 1: Jin the linebackers they took last year were second and
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Speaker 1: fourth round picks, So if they dip into the draft
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Speaker 1: again for another linebacker, especially tenth overall, he would have
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Speaker 1: to have Pro Bowl potential. Do you think Sonny has
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Speaker 1: that kind of ceiling.
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Speaker 3: I think he does again just because of his range,
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Speaker 3: you know, being six' four two hundred and forty, pounds
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Speaker 3: he can.
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Speaker 2: Run you, know he can make plays.
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Speaker 3: NOW i think early on this year you saw Rl
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Speaker 3: rees another great, linebacker high, stay kind of flash and
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Speaker 3: make all those type of. Plays you're, like where's this?
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Speaker 3: Guy you, know Where's? Arvel where's he? Been What sonny?
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Speaker 3: Did he continued to do it all year. LONG i
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Speaker 3: Think arvel might have a little drop off towards the
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Speaker 3: end of the. Year, again people got film on him
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Speaker 3: and understood what he could, do SO i wanted to
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Speaker 3: make sure they took Out. Arville sonny picked up the.
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Speaker 3: Slack so he's the guy that doesn't need to be the.
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Speaker 3: Guy he's still going to go out there and do his.
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Speaker 3: Job and then towards the end of the, year he
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Speaker 3: was one of our most dependable linebackers out there in the. Field,
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Speaker 3: again very knowledgeable because he cause you, know he's played
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Speaker 3: in the back. End he understands what the defensive line can,
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Speaker 3: do can rush your pasture if need, be you, know
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Speaker 3: from that outside linebacker, position and then he can nail
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Speaker 3: things down. Inside and he's showing the physicality that he
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Speaker 3: needs to play.
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Speaker 2: LINEBACKER i think in THE.
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Speaker 1: Nfl, finally there's defensive Tackle cayden. McDonald he is typically
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Speaker 1: listed as a later first round, pick so if The
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Speaker 1: bengals wind up with, him it might be in a
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Speaker 1: trade back. Scenario what will a team get that Selects Cayden, WELL.
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Speaker 2: I think he really came.
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Speaker 3: On you, know he's just a three year, guy, right
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Speaker 3: so he's had a freshman.
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Speaker 2: Year we kind of got on the field just a little.
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Speaker 2: Bit his sophomore.
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Speaker 3: YEAR i guess his breakout game would probably be That
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Speaker 3: Penn state.
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Speaker 2: Game Penn state had a first in goal For mike.
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Speaker 3: The three or four yard, line and they put him
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Speaker 3: over the center and he was jacked up.
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Speaker 2: That center each and every time and led the negative
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Speaker 2: plays a couple of.
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Speaker 3: Times buckey's got a four down stop there on fourth
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Speaker 3: down and you, know ended up driving out the offense
12:29
Speaker 3: coming in the field to drive at the. Clock but
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Speaker 3: that was the first time That kate McDonald really stepped
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Speaker 3: up there and, dominated you, know playing behind.
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Speaker 2: You, know a couple of really good football.
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Speaker 3: Players ahead of, Him Tylee williams being, one that he
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Speaker 3: was able to come up there and you, know get
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Speaker 3: his opportunity and, again off the, field just a great.
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Speaker 3: Kid we've interviewed him several times on a, radio got
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Speaker 3: a chance to talk to him. Practice just a nice
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Speaker 3: guy that you, know really works.
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Speaker 2: Hard but kind of turns that switch when.
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Speaker 3: He gets on the. Field it becomes a violent. Guy you,
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Speaker 3: know he'll not get guard two feet back in the.
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Speaker 3: Backfield he'll knock the center. Back you, know he's got
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Speaker 3: some ability on pass rush and just a good. Job
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Speaker 3: does a great. JOB i think of defeating, blocks you,
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Speaker 3: know whether it's double, teams it's backside. Blocks he's able
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Speaker 3: to get underneath that pressure and has the strength that he,
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Speaker 3: can you, know again push other people, backwards and that's
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Speaker 3: what you want out of defensive. Tackle on just you,
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Speaker 3: know limited playing. Time you, know he's a guy that
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Speaker 3: again really just came on this. Year we saw flashes
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Speaker 3: his sophomore, year this junior. Year he owned, it you,
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Speaker 3: know one of the best in the. Country you, know
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Speaker 3: ended up being An All american and had a terrific.
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Speaker 2: CAREER i loved to have him back here a lot
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Speaker 2: of things for another. Year BUT i think he's got
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Speaker 2: big things that you know for him in the.
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Speaker 3: Future in THE nfl and the guy that can you,
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Speaker 3: know makes a lot of, plays you, know throughout the
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Speaker 3: course of his, career and, again just a guy that
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Speaker 3: you would like to have on your team because the type.
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Speaker 2: Of person he.
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Speaker 1: Is let me follow up on pass, rush because The
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Speaker 1: bengals desperately need somebody who can give them an interior.
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Speaker 1: Push most of the Stuff i've read says more of
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Speaker 1: a run stopper than a pass. Rusher but you alluded
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Speaker 1: to the fact that he showed some potential there how.
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Speaker 3: Much, WELL i think that's one area of game that
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Speaker 3: he's got to continue to work, on you, know because
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Speaker 3: we had two pretty good edge players That Ohio, State
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Speaker 3: Katie curry And Kenyatta.
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Speaker 2: Jackson that was able to get some pressure. INSIDE i
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Speaker 2: think he's a guy that can.
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Speaker 3: Do well in the stunt, game so that they run
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Speaker 3: a te sun or an ety, Stunt he's going to
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Speaker 3: be the guy that blows up to free somebody up
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Speaker 3: and then have the build to slip off of make you,
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Speaker 3: Know mayson Plays mason tackle just three sacks.
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Speaker 2: You know this.
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Speaker 3: Year you, know for a defensive, tackle it's probably on
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Speaker 3: the low. END i think he's got the, ability you,
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Speaker 3: know as he continues to, mature just again another young football,
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Speaker 3: player he continues to have a little bit more tools
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Speaker 3: in his, toolbox and pass rush would be one of
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Speaker 3: those things that he's going to continue to improve.
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Speaker 1: On, jim you are a walking encyclopedia where The buckeyes
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Speaker 1: are can. EARNED i love listening to you And Paul
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Speaker 1: keels On, saturdays AND i appreciate your time.
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Speaker 2: Today thanks so. Much oh, damn no. PROBLEM i just
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Speaker 2: try to stay out Of paul's.
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Speaker 1: Way When Duke tobin met with The cincinnati media after the,
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Speaker 1: season he made it clear that improving the pass rush
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Speaker 1: is a. Priority duke used the expression pass rush is.
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Speaker 1: KING i did not Ask Jim lache About Ohio state
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Speaker 1: linebacker and edge Rusher Rvel reese because nearly every mock
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Speaker 1: draft has him going in the top. Five but the
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Speaker 1: other top pass rushers in this year's class are worth,
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Speaker 1: discussing beginning With Ruben, bain the six,' three two hundred
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Speaker 1: and seventy pounds defensive end who led the nation in
15:43
Speaker 1: total pressures According To Pro football focus and had nine
15:47
Speaker 1: and a half sacks this year For The. Miami hurricanes
15:51
Speaker 1: we are joined By the voice Of The. Miami Hurricanes, Joe,
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Speaker 1: ZAGAKI joe i have a hard time Believing The ruben
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Speaker 1: bain will be there at. Number ten Butespn's field yates
16:01
Speaker 1: recently Had the Bengals taking rubin in, that SPOT so
16:05
Speaker 1: i suppose it's at. Least possible he Won The Ted
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Speaker 1: hendricks award as the nation's top defensive end. This year
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Speaker 1: how do You Describe.
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Speaker 4: Ruben bain he's just a, great player, great character. Great
16:19
Speaker 4: person there's nothing Negative About. Ruben BAIN and.
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Speaker 2: I know as we get closer to, the.
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Speaker 4: Draft everybody will try to shoot holes in his game
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Speaker 4: or his size or this, or that but he is
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Speaker 4: one of the classiest individuals that's ever played For the University.
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Speaker 4: Of miami, great family tremendous leadership in.
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Speaker 2: That family he.
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Speaker 4: Never takes his eye off, the BALL and i just
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Speaker 4: think he's going to be a LONG time nfl player
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Speaker 4: because he wants to.
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Speaker 2: Be great it's important.
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Speaker 4: To him it's important him to be a, tremendous teammate
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Speaker 4: and he likes to. Be, Coached, there dan there is
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Speaker 4: nothing negative to Say about Ruben, Ban.
17:00
Speaker 1: Well joe as, you noted the combine is, coming up
17:03
Speaker 1: so this is the point of time where we are
17:06
Speaker 1: going to try to find, the warts if there. ARE
17:08
Speaker 1: any i guess the one thing that people say is
17:11
Speaker 1: that he. Isn't tall he doesn't have. LONG arms nfl
17:15
Speaker 1: teams love to find that when. They can do you
17:18
Speaker 1: think his lack of length could be an issue at the.
17:21
Speaker 2: Next, LEVEL no, i Don't but i'm NOT an nfl.
17:26
Speaker 4: Defensive mind it's funny arm lengthd all of a sudden
17:31
Speaker 4: popped up.
17:31
Speaker 2: This year and HERE'S what i Say About. Reuben bain
17:35
Speaker 2: if that's.
17:36
Speaker 4: His, biggest problem then he's going to figure out how
17:38
Speaker 4: to work.
17:39
Speaker 2: Around it he, is powerful.
17:41
Speaker 4: He plays, with energy he plays with, great leverage, he
17:46
Speaker 4: studies he has an array, of MOVES and i just
17:50
Speaker 4: think he's one of those players that's not going to.
17:53
Speaker 4: Be denied his freshman season. Was sensational he got heard
17:57
Speaker 4: his sophomore season the second play of. The game but
18:01
Speaker 4: This season white impressed me about him, This year AND
18:04
Speaker 4: what i would take away from this, season is, you
18:07
Speaker 4: know you can look at, the numbers the forty, six
18:09
Speaker 4: tackles thirteen, for losses the.
18:12
Speaker 2: Nine sacks.
18:15
Speaker 4: But a lot OF players, i, think well at least
18:18
Speaker 4: At the University of mind me recently.
18:20
Speaker 2: They would get to their junior year and they, Would,
18:22
Speaker 2: Say okay, I'm good we're gonna go TO. The nfl i'm.
18:25
Speaker 4: Just going to get past. The, season No Not. Ruin
18:27
Speaker 4: bain he wanted to. Be great he wanted to lift his,
18:30
Speaker 4: team up put his team on. His shoulders he wanted to.
18:33
Speaker 4: Be great he wanted to be remembered for doing something that.
18:37
Speaker 4: Was great he took his team to. The championship he
18:40
Speaker 4: Was An All American Ted hendricks. Award winner he's not
18:44
Speaker 4: a player or a person in, The.
18:45
Speaker 1: Settles joe what's his, motor like whether it's a run or. A, pass.
18:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, non.
18:52
Speaker 4: STOP NonStop i think he's really good against. The run
18:57
Speaker 4: you can play, him inside you can play. Him outside
19:00
Speaker 4: don't have to take him off. The field he can
19:01
Speaker 4: play all three Downs. From miami, you know he was
19:07
Speaker 4: used on the edge.
19:08
Speaker 2: This season he Came.
19:10
Speaker 4: To miami to put, him inside so we can play
19:12
Speaker 4: inside if he. Has to he's the guy, that studies
19:16
Speaker 4: so no one is ever going to Say that he's
19:20
Speaker 4: not going to absorb the information or study the tape
19:23
Speaker 4: or study. The information he just wants to get better all.
19:26
Speaker 5: The time that.
19:27
Speaker 2: Great Coaching.
19:28
Speaker 4: JASON taylor I thought i did a wonderful job with
19:31
Speaker 4: him the last two years.
19:32
Speaker 2: He's around, you know think about that every single day
19:36
Speaker 2: Around a Hall of fame player.
19:38
Speaker 4: Who many said the same Thing About, Jason taylor jason,
19:42
Speaker 4: you know, different size longer lean it wasn't a first
19:46
Speaker 4: round pick all but he said, Was Well, jason taylor
19:50
Speaker 4: he's not gonna be. Strong, enough well he's IN The
19:51
Speaker 4: nfl Hall.
19:52
Speaker 2: Of fame and he used that Wisdom Coach ruben bain
19:57
Speaker 2: who took.
19:57
Speaker 4: That coaching, in addition then every day practice he Went
20:01
Speaker 4: Against francis malignoa every single day for the last.
20:04
Speaker 2: Three years malinoa is scheduled to be a first.
20:07
Speaker 4: Round pick those guys went head to head knows and
20:11
Speaker 4: o's every day in practice and enjoyed the battle and.
20:16
Speaker 2: They made each. Other better and THAT'S why i think.
20:18
Speaker 4: All these things add up that he's going to be
20:21
Speaker 4: a REALLY good.
20:22
Speaker 1: Nfl, player joe you've Been doing miami games for a couple.
20:26
Speaker 1: Of Decades al golden was the head coach for a
20:29
Speaker 1: while during. Your tenure how's That Match al Golden And.
20:33
Speaker 4: RUBEN bain I Think, al golden if He Gets ruben
20:36
Speaker 4: bain is going to.
20:37
Speaker 2: LOVE him I.
20:38
Speaker 4: Think al goldan is going, to, say damn where were
20:41
Speaker 4: YOU when i was the.
20:42
Speaker 2: Head coach.
20:45
Speaker 4: Al knew the significance of having great, defensive linemen and
20:50
Speaker 4: he also.
20:50
Speaker 2: Knew IT wasn't i did not get away from him how.
20:54
Speaker 4: Significant great defensive linemen are For the University of miami
20:58
Speaker 4: and were for the Universe. OF miami a lot of
21:01
Speaker 4: People Said rubyen bain reminds Them Of, reggie white whether
21:05
Speaker 4: or not that's true. OR not I Think al goldan
21:08
Speaker 4: is a really. Smart Guy rubin bain is a really,
21:11
Speaker 4: smart KID and i think it's going to be a
21:14
Speaker 4: good match because they.
21:16
Speaker 2: Both, love Football And al goldan. Knows this IN, the
21:20
Speaker 2: nfl not only do you have to get to, the
21:22
Speaker 2: quarterback you've got to get him on.
21:24
Speaker 4: The, ground Well When ruben bain has him, within sight within,
21:27
Speaker 4: his sight he, gets there and then he gets him on,
21:30
Speaker 4: the ground he finishes.
21:31
Speaker 1: THE job i have my fingers crossed that he will
21:35
Speaker 1: be there at. Number ten he is number one on.
21:38
Speaker 1: My board for what, That's, WORTH jill i really appreciate.
21:40
Speaker 1: Your time thanks so.
21:41
Speaker 2: Much anytime thanks for having me Up.
21:44
Speaker 1: Next Texas Texts, david bailey who led the nation with
21:48
Speaker 1: fourteen and a. Half sacks he's, six three two hundred
21:52
Speaker 1: and fifty pounds and gets to the quarterback with his
21:55
Speaker 1: incredible quickness. And agility we are joined by the voice
21:59
Speaker 1: Of The Texas Tech, Red Raiders. Brian, jensen brian You
22:03
Speaker 1: Watch david bailey for one season after he spent three Years.
22:06
Speaker 1: At stanford what jumped out?
22:08
Speaker 5: To, you well he.
22:09
Speaker 6: Is probably the most effective defensive end outside linebacker at
22:16
Speaker 6: rushing the Passer that i've seen in the twenty six
22:19
Speaker 6: Years that i've been calling. College football it had a
22:22
Speaker 6: lot to do with just his ability to get off
22:24
Speaker 6: the line in such a quick first step and then
22:27
Speaker 6: get around the tackle or do whatever move he does
22:30
Speaker 6: to get inside to get to the quarterback and does
22:33
Speaker 6: it just. So quickly and then his arm strength is also.
22:38
Speaker 6: Very impressive he can grab on with one hand and
22:40
Speaker 6: hang on and you not only take care of the
22:44
Speaker 6: sack or stop a running back coming.
22:46
Speaker 5: Through, a hole or whatever the case. Might be he's very.
22:48
Speaker 1: Dynamic Player the bengals are likely looking for somebody to
22:52
Speaker 1: fill the Role That trey hendrickson has filled for them
22:54
Speaker 1: for the past, few seasons and one of the Things
22:57
Speaker 1: that trey did was serve as A close when they
23:00
Speaker 1: needed a sack on third down late in, the game he.
23:04
Speaker 1: Often Delivered Was david bailey?
23:06
Speaker 3: Like that?
23:07
Speaker 6: Oh yeah in eleven of the fourteen games he had
23:10
Speaker 6: at least.
23:11
Speaker 5: A sack so and it was exactly what.
23:14
Speaker 6: You're describing if it was a situation where there was
23:17
Speaker 6: a big, third down the quarterbacks knew he was coming
23:21
Speaker 6: and they thought they knew where he's. Coming from but
23:24
Speaker 6: typically he would get. There anyway and That was another
23:27
Speaker 6: thing that has been very impressive with him is the
23:30
Speaker 6: number of pressures he's put. On quarterbacks it's seventy six
23:34
Speaker 6: total pressures during the regular Season for bailey this.
23:39
Speaker 2: PAST year, i mean that's just think about.
23:40
Speaker 5: THAT number.
23:43
Speaker 1: I am agree about. That number he had twenty nine
23:46
Speaker 1: sacks in his. College career he also forced ten fumbles turnovers.
23:51
Speaker 1: Win games as we, all know did he have that
23:54
Speaker 1: nose for?
23:54
Speaker 6: The, ball yes absolutely was able to do the same
23:57
Speaker 6: thing with tech and typically when he would get, in
24:01
Speaker 6: there if he didn't force, the fumble he turned the
24:05
Speaker 6: quarterback in a direction where another defensive lineman or another
24:08
Speaker 6: defensive player would be, right there, you know to punch
24:11
Speaker 6: it out or do something of.
24:12
Speaker 2: That nature so chaos is is the best WORD that i.
24:16
Speaker 6: Could Describe When david bailey comes after, a quarterback he,
24:19
Speaker 6: creates it whether it's him actually making the hit or
24:22
Speaker 6: just forcing the quarterback to do something crazy because he knows.
24:25
Speaker 1: He's, coming brian he earned his degree in less than
24:28
Speaker 1: four Years. AT stanford i assume he's a. Smart Kid
24:31
Speaker 1: Describe david bailey off, the field, great leader.
24:36
Speaker 6: You know not the kind of guy that's going to
24:38
Speaker 6: be jumping up and down in your, face verbal but
24:40
Speaker 6: the kind of guy that when he, says something.
24:42
Speaker 1: Everybody Listens the bengals have the tenth pick in. The
24:47
Speaker 1: draft he pops up frequently as somebody who's been mock Drafted,
24:52
Speaker 1: to CINCINNATI but i would say more often, than not
24:55
Speaker 1: he's no longer there at. Number ten do you have
24:57
Speaker 1: a feel. For that do you get the sense that
25:00
Speaker 1: he's going to be one of the guys taken at
25:02
Speaker 1: the very top of.
25:02
Speaker 6: This, DRAFT well i have a feeling that when he Performs,
25:06
Speaker 6: at combine depending on how much he, performs there.
25:11
Speaker 2: He.
25:11
Speaker 7: Could jump he could.
25:12
Speaker 6: Jump up the number a little bit, because again some
25:17
Speaker 6: of the things that, he possesses, you know it shows,
25:20
Speaker 6: on film and it shows on. The field but when
25:23
Speaker 6: you can show what those things are like with the
25:26
Speaker 6: stopwatches and, you know and the measurements and all the
25:29
Speaker 6: other things THAT the, nfl LOVES he i think is
25:32
Speaker 6: going to set a new bar in.
25:34
Speaker 5: Some Of those is there any?
25:36
Speaker 1: Versatility there is he strictly an.
25:38
Speaker 6: Edge, guy no there's versatility in that he can drop.
25:42
Speaker 6: Back in he did this several Times for tech their
25:45
Speaker 6: defensive scheme when the quarterbacks were dual. Threat quarterbacks if
25:49
Speaker 6: you look back at, text season dual threat quarterbacks at
25:54
Speaker 6: a very difficult time Succeeding against, tech defense and a
25:57
Speaker 6: lot of the reason was because they Could Take dave
26:00
Speaker 6: Bailey And, romelo Hype But david bailey for, you know
26:03
Speaker 6: number one on, the list and they could drop him
26:05
Speaker 6: back if they.
26:06
Speaker 5: Needed to so they would make it look like he's.
26:08
Speaker 6: Coming at the quarterback and then he would peel back
26:11
Speaker 6: and either drop off into a zone or he would
26:13
Speaker 6: drop off on a specific player and could cover, them well,
26:18
Speaker 6: you know up. The FIELD so i would say that
26:21
Speaker 6: he's the kind of guy IN the nfl that could
26:23
Speaker 6: do those types. Of things doesn't have to always just
26:26
Speaker 6: be a flat out. Pass rusher he can drop back
26:29
Speaker 6: and do, some things you know in.
26:30
Speaker 5: The zones we will.
26:32
Speaker 1: Be watching him closely at the Combine. In, INDIANAPOLIS brian
26:35
Speaker 1: i appreciate, the intel thanks.
26:37
Speaker 5: So much absolutely. Good luck there's.
26:40
Speaker 1: One more edge rusher on, the list and in every
26:43
Speaker 1: mock Draft that i've, looked at he's available with a tenth.
26:46
Speaker 1: Overall Pick keldric Falk. Of auburn he's, six six two
26:51
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty. Eight POUNDS in Nfl dot com compares
26:55
Speaker 1: Him To. Carlos Dunlap the bengals would gladly sign up,
26:59
Speaker 1: for that but he's also been Compared To shamar stewart
27:02
Speaker 1: because he didn't have the college stats to match. His
27:06
Speaker 1: potential we are joined by the voice Of The, Auburn Tigers,
27:10
Speaker 1: andy bircham to discuss Edge Rusher. Keldric, falk andy he
27:16
Speaker 1: looks the part six six nearly two hundred and. Ninety
27:19
Speaker 1: pounds how would you describe?
27:21
Speaker 8: His, play well he is a, guy That from, auburn's
27:24
Speaker 8: standpoint was a Highly recruited auburn felt really good about
27:30
Speaker 8: getting him.
27:31
Speaker 9: Here From, Highland, home alabama and he was. A starter
27:36
Speaker 9: he was a contributor from, day one On the.
27:39
Speaker 8: Auburn campus as you mentioned, six' six he ended the
27:42
Speaker 8: year at, two Eighty five and i'm guessing since then
27:46
Speaker 8: has probably added some more muscle as he Trains for
27:49
Speaker 8: the combine and TRAINS For. The nfl draft and just
27:53
Speaker 8: was a guy that was a Key contributor for auburn
27:57
Speaker 8: from Day one for auburt.
27:59
Speaker 9: And not just.
27:59
Speaker 8: AS edge rusher i was really impressed by the complete
28:04
Speaker 8: football player, that he was and it was, from day
28:07
Speaker 8: one and he was.
28:08
Speaker 2: A leader for auburn.
28:10
Speaker 9: FOR day, one, i mean.
28:11
Speaker 8: Listen he comes in and and didn't play on.
28:13
Speaker 9: Great, teams at auburn but every.
28:16
Speaker 8: Time you would listen to an opposing coach Talk about,
28:19
Speaker 8: the auburn defense, you.
28:22
Speaker 9: Would hear, especially this year you would, Hear.
28:24
Speaker 8: Two names xavier atkins at linebacker Who, returns For Auburn
28:28
Speaker 8: and keldric falk off the edge and a Guy that
28:32
Speaker 8: led auburn.
28:32
Speaker 9: In quarterback hurries. On the season just he will be
28:37
Speaker 9: sorely Missed from.
28:38
Speaker 8: This AUBURN team But i know auburn wishes him nothing
28:40
Speaker 8: but the best as he gets READY For.
28:42
Speaker 2: The nfl draft and he let me ask you.
28:45
Speaker 1: About his productivity he had seven sacks a couple, of
28:49
Speaker 1: years ago but only. Two this year his pressures were
28:53
Speaker 1: down a little. Bit as well why do you think that?
28:55
Speaker 8: Was, THE case well i think this, he you know
28:58
Speaker 8: for a, couple of years he was Basically it for
29:00
Speaker 8: auburn on.
29:01
Speaker 9: Off the edge he Was everything.
29:02
Speaker 8: That auburn had auburn was, MORE balanced defensively i, think.
29:06
Speaker 9: This year and it didn't have to Just Be the.
29:08
Speaker 9: Calbert FOLK show and I.
29:11
Speaker 3: Thought he i thought in spite of the fact that his.
29:15
Speaker 8: Sack, NUMBERS went down i thought he was a more
29:18
Speaker 8: well Rounded defender for. Auburn this season you didn't see
29:22
Speaker 8: him get out of, his, Rush LANE uh and i
29:26
Speaker 8: thought he was More disciplined for auburn coming off the Edge.
29:30
Speaker 8: For THE tigers and i think that's one of the
29:31
Speaker 8: reasons that it resulted in the fact.
29:34
Speaker 9: That he didn't have as many sacks This.
29:36
Speaker 2: Year FOR auburn and i.
29:37
Speaker 8: ALSO think, this i mean he was he was the
29:41
Speaker 8: most highly Publicized of The auburn sh rudger edge, rushers.
29:47
Speaker 9: AS well and i think teams probably doubled.
29:49
Speaker 2: On him more than they had.
29:51
Speaker 8: In THE past and i think that that also had
29:53
Speaker 8: something to. Do WITH it but i thought he was
29:55
Speaker 8: a more well rounded, defender this season even though his
29:59
Speaker 8: numbers weren't nearly as high as they had been.
30:01
Speaker 2: In the past keldric.
30:03
Speaker 1: Is twenty One he's leaving auburn. After three seasons do
30:07
Speaker 1: you think it's going to take him a little bit
30:09
Speaker 1: of time to have a big CONTRIBUTION at the nfl
30:12
Speaker 1: level or do you think he's ready to? Contribute, right away.
30:15
Speaker 8: Well if you just judge from what He did at
30:18
Speaker 8: auburn and did as, A true freshman.
30:20
Speaker 9: I'm not sure it's going to take a. Lot of
30:21
Speaker 9: TIME i'm not i.
30:24
Speaker 8: Certainly don't have the insight with REGARD to THE nfl.
30:28
Speaker 2: As i do on the collegiate level And, here at.
30:31
Speaker 8: Auburn but he was a contributor from from day one as.
30:35
Speaker 8: A true freshman i think he will. Be a contributor it.
30:39
Speaker 9: May not be to that in the level that he
30:41
Speaker 9: was on, the COLLEGE level but i think he has
30:44
Speaker 9: everything needed to.
30:45
Speaker 8: Become a very productive defensive end, or edge rusher, regardless
30:51
Speaker 8: you know whether he's in, the you know on.
30:53
Speaker 9: A three point stantary he's coming. OFF the edge i
30:56
Speaker 9: think this guy can.
30:57
Speaker 1: Do it all you mentioned his character, and his leadership
31:00
Speaker 1: what were your personal Interactions, Like, with keldrick.
31:04
Speaker 9: Well every time we got a chance to be around
31:06
Speaker 9: him and. Talk to him he's, very well spoken one
31:09
Speaker 9: thoughtful in.
31:10
Speaker 8: What he DOES and, as i, mentioned and listen in this,
31:14
Speaker 8: day and age it's not just it's not just a
31:16
Speaker 8: given that your best players are going to be. Your
31:19
Speaker 8: team leaders but that was The Case from keldrick fault.
31:22
Speaker 8: From day one he was a team leader as a
31:24
Speaker 8: freshman and continue to be a team leader through his Junior.
31:27
Speaker 8: Year at auburn that's one of the things that Impressed
31:30
Speaker 8: Me about calbric faulk.
31:32
Speaker 9: Was just how well he Led on, that.
31:35
Speaker 8: Auburn defense and that Was a good auburn, defense this
31:38
Speaker 8: season And he was he was one of THE Leaders
31:40
Speaker 8: that dj jurkin.
31:41
Speaker 9: Looked to game in.
31:42
Speaker 8: And, game, OUT now listen i have no idea how
31:45
Speaker 8: he's going to Test, at THE combine but i won't
31:48
Speaker 8: be shocked if he doesn't come out of there and
31:50
Speaker 8: HAS impressed the nfl, scouts coming Out.
31:53
Speaker 1: Including, THE bengals andy i appreciate the. Intel very much thanks,
31:57
Speaker 1: to your.
31:57
Speaker 9: Time my pleasure dan have. A great guy we'll.
32:01
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Speaker 1: Of the bengals we've looked at, several edge Rushers but
32:29
Speaker 1: the bengals are also in the market, for defensive tackles
32:32
Speaker 1: especially if they have. Pass rushing potential the top rated
32:37
Speaker 1: interior lineman on most big boards this year is, six
32:41
Speaker 1: foot three three hundred And Ten pound Peter, woods, from
32:44
Speaker 1: clemson Who Along with Ohio State's, safety caleb downs is
32:48
Speaker 1: probably the player most frequently Going to the bengals. In
32:52
Speaker 1: mock drafts we are joined by the Voice Of, The Clemson,
32:55
Speaker 1: tigers don munson to Discuss Defensive. Tackle Peter woods don
32:59
Speaker 1: peter where it was a very. Highly touted recruit it
33:02
Speaker 1: was a big deal when He. Signed with clemson he
33:04
Speaker 1: watched him play. For three years did he live up?
33:07
Speaker 1: TO the hype i think that.
33:08
Speaker 10: He did live up to the hype and be perfectly, Honest.
33:10
Speaker 11: With you daniel people may go and take a look,
33:13
Speaker 11: at the, analytics you know of his playing particularly they go,
33:16
Speaker 11: look at, numbers tackle, numbers sack numbers that, kind of stuff, and, they,
33:20
Speaker 11: say no. No HE didn't but i think that, he did,
33:22
Speaker 11: it you know because he drew. So much attention a lot,
33:25
Speaker 11: of double teams a lot of offensive coordinators believe the
33:28
Speaker 11: were planning around ways to Try To. Control peter woods
33:32
Speaker 11: he had that one year where he played a defensive
33:34
Speaker 11: end and then moved back into defensive tackle, this past year,
33:38
Speaker 11: so you know he would tackle in. Back into tackles
33:41
Speaker 11: so He is a he's a multifaceted kind. Of DEFENSIVE
33:45
Speaker 11: lineman and i think it's gonna be a really good.
33:47
Speaker 1: Fit for somebody i'm glad, you said That because the
33:50
Speaker 1: bengals need. Inside pass rushers he had two sacks this
33:54
Speaker 1: year and three. The year before but it sounds like
33:57
Speaker 1: he got a lot of attention and that might help
34:00
Speaker 1: explain why he didn't.
34:01
Speaker 2: Have.
34:01
Speaker 11: BIGGER numbers yeah i think that that's exactly why is
34:06
Speaker 11: is is he did draw a. LOT of, attention i
34:09
Speaker 11: mean because he was he was THE focal, point i
34:11
Speaker 11: mean he was a he was a guy that, even
34:14
Speaker 11: you know preseason magazines are.
34:15
Speaker 10: Coming, out talking, about you know this guy.
34:17
Speaker 11: Could be the, possible you know acc defensive player, of
34:20
Speaker 11: the year a lot of that. Kind of talk but
34:23
Speaker 11: he's been the he's been the, very you know the
34:27
Speaker 11: very typical kind of defensive lineman that has been Coming
34:29
Speaker 11: out of clemson now for basically the last gosh.
34:33
Speaker 10: TEN fifteen, years i mean go back AND Talk.
34:35
Speaker 11: About dj, Reader you know reader was obviously they're with
34:38
Speaker 11: you all is for a While, they're In cincinnati and
34:41
Speaker 11: reader was a guy who, just you know kept getting.
34:44
Speaker 10: Better AND better and i think that's the Other. THING
34:45
Speaker 10: about peter i think that.
34:47
Speaker 11: As, age goes along and that as he strives and
34:50
Speaker 11: goes to get to his mid twenties, TO late twenties
34:53
Speaker 11: i think it's those are the times where he's really
34:55
Speaker 11: going to be at.
34:56
Speaker 10: His peak performance.
34:58
Speaker 1: He is one of the youngest players. In the draft
35:00
Speaker 1: he hasn't turned. Twenty one yet do you think he
35:03
Speaker 1: is going to be a big contributor from day one
35:06
Speaker 1: or do you think it's going to.
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Speaker 11: TAKE some time i think it depends upon the pieces
35:09
Speaker 11: of the puzzle that are kind, of around him perfectly, Honest,
35:12
Speaker 11: With YOU dan and i THINK that's but i think
35:14
Speaker 11: that's the case with basically ninety five PERCENT of, all
35:19
Speaker 11: nfl players is that there is that rare five percent
35:22
Speaker 11: that no matter, who's around him they are going.
35:24
Speaker 10: To stand out but a lot of.
35:26
Speaker 11: All pros are all pros because of the people around
35:30
Speaker 11: them as well and the scheme that they're involved. In
35:33
Speaker 11: AS well and i think that that's Another thing for
35:35
Speaker 11: peter is that he needs to go to a place
35:38
Speaker 11: where he's, got some good good folks around him on
35:40
Speaker 11: the defensive line at linebacker that can help free him
35:44
Speaker 11: up a little bit so he's not always drawing. All
35:46
Speaker 11: the attention but then how are they Going to go
35:48
Speaker 11: how is the team going to go? About using him
35:51
Speaker 11: he can cause problems right. Up the gut where does
35:54
Speaker 11: the quarterback hate to get pressure right?
35:56
Speaker 10: Up the gut but he.
35:57
Speaker 11: Can do that he can, bull rush people he can
35:59
Speaker 11: go right, over top People, and he's yeah he is a.
36:02
Speaker 11: STRONG human being i can tell you. That right now
36:04
Speaker 11: he has a strong human being and he's going.
36:07
Speaker 1: To get stronger he's listed at six. Three three ten
36:11
Speaker 1: most Of the stuff i've read about him talks about his.
36:13
Speaker 1: First step quickness what do you consider to be. HIS
36:16
Speaker 1: greatest strengths i think that's probably.
36:18
Speaker 11: It he had he is explosive, off the line and
36:22
Speaker 11: if you can if you can be explosive in that
36:24
Speaker 11: first in.
36:25
Speaker 10: That first step he also plays with really.
36:27
Speaker 11: GOOD pad, level i mean he is a guy that
36:30
Speaker 11: believes that low pad wins and he can absolutely do
36:33
Speaker 11: that when he. Gets to combine the thing that's going
36:36
Speaker 11: to probably be the knock against him is going to be.
36:38
Speaker 10: His ARM length and i understand, that ALL right but
36:41
Speaker 10: i think that.
36:42
Speaker 11: Way you're, in tight quarters the way that he is going,
36:45
Speaker 11: to be operating he knows how to. Use his hands
36:48
Speaker 11: there's a little bit of wrestling in his in his,
36:50
Speaker 11: background as well so he he knows how to use
36:53
Speaker 11: his hands and to get.
36:54
Speaker 10: Leverage on guys.
36:55
Speaker 1: Dodd he actually carried the ball Eight times at clemson
36:58
Speaker 1: and ran for a. Couple of touchdowns how did, That,
37:00
Speaker 1: come about.
37:01
Speaker 5: Well it came about.
37:03
Speaker 11: BECAUSE jumbo package i think that really the p curser
37:08
Speaker 11: To Him, was christian wilkins who obviously missed this past
37:13
Speaker 11: year in THE in the nfl because of.
37:14
Speaker 10: A Foot injury but christian.
37:16
Speaker 11: Was one that kind Of started That peter great and
37:19
Speaker 11: that's the kind of athlete though, that he is is
37:22
Speaker 11: that he can. Go out there but when in, today's collegiate,
37:26
Speaker 11: game in particular so many times you're going forward on
37:28
Speaker 11: fourth down or maybe even. Third and short it's particularly
37:31
Speaker 11: when that ball's inside the two yard line in. A
37:34
Speaker 11: scoring situation was kind of where they like, to use
37:37
Speaker 11: him and he made the most of it and he
37:40
Speaker 11: enjoyed getting in.
37:40
Speaker 10: THE end zone i can guarantee you.
37:41
Speaker 1: THAT You, reference dj, reader great leader. Great culture guy
37:46
Speaker 1: he had a lot to Do with the bengals going
37:48
Speaker 1: To the super bowl in. Twenty twenty one we'd sign
37:51
Speaker 1: UP For another. DJ reader tomorrow i can promise you
37:54
Speaker 1: that does he have some. Of those, qualities.
37:56
Speaker 11: Oh yeah absolutely one of THE things that i Guarantee
37:58
Speaker 11: You with peter woods is that.
38:00
Speaker 10: There's not going to be any off field.
38:02
Speaker 11: PROBLEMS with him i guarantee he whoever gets him Is
38:05
Speaker 11: going to he's gonna be. A pr dream he's going
38:08
Speaker 11: to do all. The right things he's going to say all.
38:10
Speaker 11: The right things he's going to be. A team guy
38:12
Speaker 11: he is going to be a voice inside. The, locker
38:15
Speaker 11: room now it's going to take a while.
38:16
Speaker 10: And will heave you a voice. As a, rookie probably
38:19
Speaker 10: not but he at some, point in time he is
38:22
Speaker 10: going to be that voice in.
38:23
Speaker 11: That locker room, very well spoken, very kind of very,
38:27
Speaker 11: polite young man and he's all the things.
38:30
Speaker 10: That you want he's not going to cause problems.
38:33
Speaker 1: Off The field the bengals have drafted A lot of tigers,
38:36
Speaker 1: In Recent, Years Te, Higgins Miles, murphy barrett CARTER We.
38:39
Speaker 1: Referenced dj reader they picked him up as. A free
38:42
Speaker 1: agent at least a couple of those guys have been
38:44
Speaker 1: highly SUCCESSFUL. In the nfl it sounds Like You think
38:48
Speaker 1: peter woods will be SUCCESSFUL. In, THE nfl yeah i think.
38:52
Speaker 10: That you Add HIM to and i think that.
38:54
Speaker 11: Was another thing That could help peter is that a
38:56
Speaker 11: lot of those guys that you just mentioned He played
38:58
Speaker 11: with so's he would have the opportunity to go, to
39:03
Speaker 11: a Place have some clemson folks around him and get
39:07
Speaker 11: them to put the lay of the land out. There
39:09
Speaker 11: FOR him but I think that peter would be an
39:12
Speaker 11: excellent Addition to what cincinnati wants to do and as
39:16
Speaker 11: they start, to move forward also trying to make a
39:18
Speaker 11: move to get to the playoffs and once you, get the.
39:21
Speaker 10: Playoffs Anything's possible don this.
39:23
Speaker 1: Has been great really appreciate your time. And the information.
39:26
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.
39:28
Speaker 10: Appreciate you Having me on dan, and As. Always go
39:30
Speaker 10: tigers there's.
39:32
Speaker 1: One player left and it's at a position that doesn't
39:35
Speaker 1: appear to be a Major need for. Cincinnati outside cornerback
39:39
Speaker 1: but if you believe in the best player available concept
39:43
Speaker 1: and have an opportunity to draft, an elite corner then
39:46
Speaker 1: you have to at Least consider LSU's. Monsieur de layne he's,
39:51
Speaker 1: six feet tall one hundred and ninety pounds, with long
39:54
Speaker 1: arms And According To, pro football focus did not allow
39:58
Speaker 1: a touchdown. PASS this year i often talk with the
40:02
Speaker 1: VOICE Of the lsu tigers this, time Of Year and
40:04
Speaker 1: chris blair has certainly given. Us Great Intel i'm Joe
40:08
Speaker 1: Burrow and jamar chase. In the past today we Are Discussing,
40:12
Speaker 1: cornerback monsieur delaine who typically has listed as the number
40:17
Speaker 1: one corner in. This year's class what stood out to
40:19
Speaker 1: you watching him? Play, This, year chris.
40:22
Speaker 12: Well it's interesting you bring up those other TWO names
40:25
Speaker 12: because i think you know both have translated well obviously
40:28
Speaker 12: from from the college RANKS, To the nfl, AND you
40:32
Speaker 12: know I think when i when, people ask, me you
40:34
Speaker 12: know years Ago about Both, JOE and jamar i always talked.
40:37
Speaker 13: About their, their work ethic their kind of.
40:39
Speaker 12: Approach to a professional, life of football even in. The
40:42
Speaker 12: college ranks, and interestingly enough when You bring, up monsieur's name.
40:48
Speaker 7: That's the other thing that stands.
40:50
Speaker 12: Out about him, and you know he transferred in obviously,
40:53
Speaker 12: in the summer getting to see him a little bit
40:55
Speaker 12: in fall camp leading up, to the season, and you
40:59
Speaker 12: know also being told by The coaching staff dan that
41:03
Speaker 12: this is. The real deal this guy is going to
41:05
Speaker 12: be ABLE, to take lsu which had been struggling against
41:08
Speaker 12: the pass for the. Previous two seasons it was suddenly
41:11
Speaker 12: GOING to bring DBU.
41:13
Speaker 7: Back TO lsu, and i thought that's a lot of
41:16
Speaker 7: high praise.
41:16
Speaker 12: For one individual but it was pretty evident early on
41:20
Speaker 12: teams just stopped, throwing his way and, when they did
41:23
Speaker 12: it almost seemed like.
41:25
Speaker 7: They never won and he always came up with a
41:28
Speaker 7: pick or.
41:28
Speaker 12: A big, deflection so again he stands out to me
41:31
Speaker 12: as a pro playing in college football just the way,
41:35
Speaker 12: he approached things and that's kind of the way the
41:36
Speaker 12: coaching staff referred to him as this guy comes in.
41:40
Speaker 13: And he takes away, half the field and for most
41:42
Speaker 13: of the season.
41:43
Speaker 1: He, did THAT chris did lsu typically put him on
41:46
Speaker 1: the other team's best receiver or did he stay?
41:49
Speaker 11: On?
41:49
Speaker 1: One side yeah.
41:51
Speaker 12: Typically he, would in fact most of the opponents, that
41:54
Speaker 12: we saw especially as the, season went on would constantly
41:57
Speaker 12: move guys you would expect to their GUY at. The
42:01
Speaker 12: z position suddenly he'd, be you KNOW at the x
42:04
Speaker 12: just to try to, move him around just simply because
42:07
Speaker 12: when there was a guy that needed, to be covered
42:09
Speaker 12: that's who. They went TO that's who lsu Went to
42:12
Speaker 12: in monts. Who, were delaying now it also.
42:14
Speaker 13: Helped he had some pretty good safety help, over the
42:16
Speaker 13: top so.
42:16
Speaker 12: It, allowed him again there were MANY times where i
42:20
Speaker 12: saw him just make plays that when you saw pre
42:23
Speaker 12: snap or immediately, at the snap, you think, they you
42:26
Speaker 12: know the the offense. Had their number but his ability
42:30
Speaker 12: to to make up for lost speed or maybe even
42:34
Speaker 12: a bad angle initially puts him in an elite group
42:38
Speaker 12: As far. As i'm concerned based on THE cornerbacks, that
42:41
Speaker 12: i saw you KNOW in the, sec Last season.
42:43
Speaker 1: The bengals have good OUTSIDE Corners and Dj Turner And
42:47
Speaker 1: dax hill dax has played. In the slot how Much versatility?
42:52
Speaker 1: Does monsoeur have he pay, had a.
42:54
Speaker 12: Lot you know and it's interesting because you can go back,
42:57
Speaker 12: and Watch plays and i'm sure fans have as the
42:59
Speaker 12: draft kids closer and watch him at times Be, able
43:03
Speaker 12: to again most, of the time he didn't have to make.
43:07
Speaker 13: Spectacular plays in the sense that he was.
43:09
Speaker 12: OUT of position i think that's why teams very rarely
43:13
Speaker 12: started to throw his way because very rarely just based,
43:16
Speaker 12: on the fundamentals based on what he read at, the
43:18
Speaker 12: receiver position regardless of what guy he was on and
43:21
Speaker 12: where he was, on the.
43:22
Speaker 7: Field whether he was the outside boundary or.
43:25
Speaker 12: The closed boundary he just rarely ever was, out of
43:28
Speaker 12: position which again is why quarterbacks would immediately look his
43:32
Speaker 12: receiver off because, he's you know he's there and they're
43:37
Speaker 12: not going to be able to shake him in.
43:38
Speaker 7: The, next you know half.
43:39
Speaker 12: Second TWO seconds so i think that's what was also
43:42
Speaker 12: good About the way monsouver plays is that he does
43:45
Speaker 12: a lot, of his, work you know well before they get.
43:47
Speaker 12: To the field he understands what, his assignment is he,
43:50
Speaker 12: understands the strengths he understands where maybe he can't match
43:54
Speaker 12: up his, knee as well but he certainly puts himself
43:58
Speaker 12: in the position to. Make the play rarely does a
44:01
Speaker 12: guy get a huge step or a huge.
44:03
Speaker 7: Gap.
44:03
Speaker 1: On him chris he spent ONE year at lsu After Three,
44:06
Speaker 1: at virginia tech so he had to adapt and get
44:10
Speaker 1: to know teammates quickly like he WILL. In the nfl
44:13
Speaker 1: did he become a leader or was he more of,
44:15
Speaker 1: a you know put his nose down and just do
44:18
Speaker 1: his thing?
44:18
Speaker 2: Kind of?
44:19
Speaker 1: GUY you know i.
44:20
Speaker 12: Think he was more of a quiet, kind of kid
44:23
Speaker 12: at least from my interactions with him again during the
44:25
Speaker 12: press junkets during the week and just. Traveling with him
44:28
Speaker 12: he never, seemed to, be you know the loudest, of,
44:30
Speaker 12: the group which as, you will know doesn't necessarily always translate.
44:34
Speaker 12: INTO good leadership i would put him in the file,
44:37
Speaker 12: a little, more you know a Little more like jamar
44:40
Speaker 12: when HE. Was at lsu joe was. A different Animal
44:43
Speaker 12: joe would he didn't, have a, problem you know talking
44:46
Speaker 12: to the linebackers much less the defensive edge or. HIS running,
44:51
Speaker 12: backs i mean he had no problem taking control.
44:53
Speaker 2: OF the Room i think jamar was more of.
44:55
Speaker 13: A, guy who said just GO watch what i do go, watch.
44:57
Speaker 12: My practice To watch how i'm, ready to go and there's,
44:59
Speaker 12: no WASTED moments AND i Think i put monsour.
45:03
Speaker 7: In there now.
45:04
Speaker 12: He, enjoys himself well you got some great tape and
45:06
Speaker 12: great video of him. After SOME celebrations but i think,
45:09
Speaker 12: as a rule he's a, guy that says if you
45:11
Speaker 12: want to compete and you want to be at, the
45:13
Speaker 12: highest level when you want the coaches to put their,
45:15
Speaker 12: trust in you this is.
45:16
Speaker 7: What you have to do.
45:17
Speaker 12: Every single day AND that's why i think it's going
45:19
Speaker 12: to translate well for him to a PROFESSIONAL ranks because
45:22
Speaker 12: i think he already approaches the game.
45:24
Speaker 1: In That manner the tigers have been Good. To the
45:27
Speaker 1: bengals we'll see if.
45:28
Speaker 9: It.
45:28
Speaker 1: HAPPENS again chris i, Appreciate your time. Thanks so much looking.
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