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Tryst Six Venom by Penelope Douglas - Olivia & Clay: Rivalry with Benefits! · Lose the Plot with Carla and Emily

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  Hi friends, you're listening to Lose the Pot with Carla and
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  Emily. In this episode we're reading
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  Trist 6 Venom by Penelope Douglas.
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  We are talking about the entire book, so warning, there will be
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  spoilers. I'm Carla and I'm not gay.
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  I'm just in love with you. I love you too.
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  I'm Emily. And I know you're not.
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  You gotta say it mean. I know you're not a virgin
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  anymore, and I know it was recently.
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  You all right? So before we dive into this
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  So I got the trigger warnings. For this book from Book Trigger
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  warnings.com Are we ready? Emily, do you have anything you
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  want to guess? And then I'll say what was on
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  the list, right, starting off with the big one, right.
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  It's not on this list, which is a bit assault.
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  Well, they said abuse mental. Illness.
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  No. OK, let.
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  Me. Just give you the list and then
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  let's see if there's anything else we would answer.
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  Abuse, bullying, homophobia, suicide mentioned and violence.
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  So is rape just violence? I don't think so.
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  It was more like a tented rape. Yeah.
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  But I feel like it's all the same.
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  It's very, it feels all the same in the end, doesn't it, Like
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  traumatic wise. I know.
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  I don't know. Is there anything that's missed?
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  There was a little biphobia, I think.
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  True. Does homophobia cover that?
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  No, I feel like it doesn't. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Yeah, true. There's a bit of men, Yeah,
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  True. Horning men.
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  Straight men. That's probably it.
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  So if you don't like any of those things, this book is
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  probably isn't for you. Just listen to our podcast
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  instead. Trigger warning We just now love
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  for you Douglas. We're equally.
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  Triggering though, so yeah. I don't know if you're safer in
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  this environment. For once we've got two female
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  characters and it was dual point of view.
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  Hey, yes. So we switched between the two.
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  I was living on the edge where I didn't even read the name.
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  I just decided to guess each time who was speaking.
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  I got like that by the end and I was like, wait up.
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  I just put it together because I was like, fuck it.
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  It all started to blend. I don't know, it was more fun
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  that way. Because you know what, a male
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  female book. You can always tell who's who.
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  You don't even need to read the top.
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  So I think that's just what I do.
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  So I just got into that and you just go straight into the
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  chapter and are so when you're confused later.
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  This is probably why I was confused the whole time.
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  It was really long, which is very on brand for me.
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  Yeah, it's on brand for both of us.
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  Can I just say wait? OK, so we've got Olivia and
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  we've got Clay. Clay is a girl name.
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  Fuck off. Considering the brothers names.
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  OK, you would assume that the names would be opposite, right?
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  Bro. Like they named that girl
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  knowing she'd be gay. But her name is Olivia.
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  No, no. I mean, they named Clay.
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  Oh, it's like they just knew from birth.
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  I can handle Clay when it was the guy from 13 Reasons Why.
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  No, I've never watched it because he just looked like a
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  Clay, like a big lump of clay. But then, like, this girl's
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  supposed to be this hot blonde. She was giving me Legally
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  Blonde. Yeah, I forget the character's
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  name. I feel like it was.
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  She's funny. Adds to the hotness when you
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  hold it. And her name's so ugly.
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  She's hot. Yeah, like it just, I don't
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  know. Oh, finally I came out called
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  fucking like, grunge or something.
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  Then you can be Clayla. Stop not the Clayla.
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  Steal her away from Olivia. Then that can be a couple.
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  Name 00 K so. Oh my God.
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  So speaking about names, fuck, they were horrible.
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  What's going on? Penel?
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  Penel what is coming up? Penlop.
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  Penlop. What's happening?
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  Because seriously, OKI don't know how we wrote these in order
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  of let's just start with Kelan B.
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  The worst, worst. Worst was like the only human
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  name. And Olivia.
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  OK, so we got iron. Not one I would pick.
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  All I could imagine was a full on like iron by man.
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  And then we've got Clay, obviously.
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  We've got Kris, Jenner. Christian like it's not.
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  You've heard of Kristen, you've heard of Krista, you've heard of
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  Kris Jenner. Kris Jenner.
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  But have you heard of Christian? You've heard of Christian, but
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  have you heard of Christian? Did you see her sister's names?
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  I probably tried to skip over it.
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  Wait, wait, we're not done yet. We've got Macon.
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  These names are making me crazy every time I read this one.
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  I know it's wrong. This is how I pronounced from my
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  brain. Ara Kelly you.
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  Know what, though? But what is it?
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  I don't know. And there was I I just skimmed
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  over it every time it came up. I didn't even try.
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  I thought it was a guy. The Hurricane Araceli.
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  Is it like Italian? But then I thought it.
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  Was a bloke. Oh, I thought it was a bloke the
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  whole time. And then we got army.
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  And then we got who? Who?
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  That's the mom. Oh yeah, and Dallas, that's my
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  And Trace is called Trist and I'm pretty sure Kristen's sister
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  seems like praisely. That's starting to make sense,
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  isn't? It fucking Joseph's.
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  Christ, I'm trying to find it. I can't deal Paisley.
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  No, I think it's like praise anyway.
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  I can't find it. It was shit.
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  Regardless, we don't need to know why there was two sisters
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  and they were both shit. The end, Emily.
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  I'm sensing a bit of a theme. With the pea dog, with the
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  Penelope dog with me, yeah. You keep picking up books, You
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  keep telling me to. What I didn't know.
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  About this book. I didn't know this is pea dog
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  because we're gonna do some more fellas.
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  Did I? Oh yeah, Because birthday girl,
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  that's right. To be fair, when it comes to
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  women, women, books, I don't know any.
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  This is the only one I knew. We need to branch out.
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  This has been our first proper main character lesbian book.
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  Except for seven husbands, obviously.
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  Yeah, but I feel like that didn't really count.
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  No, there was a lot of men involved.
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  Yeah, too many. Too many men, Too many men.
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  About 7:00. Yeah, around that.
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  Probably more. Probably more or less.
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  I love it. Fan behavior.
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  I'm here for the representation, but I'm not here for the plot.
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  Fair. Fair.
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  OK, I agree. Penelope Douglas writes all her
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  books exactly the same. I feel like you would know, but
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  you haven't read the Devil Night series and it's literally the
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  same thing, but just women. Yeah, okay.
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  What I do like about the pea dog is.
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  She never has a very boring sex scene, if that makes sense.
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  They're always like wacky doodle scenario.
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  Actually, yeah, they are, cuz you know other writers, you can
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  just tell it's the exact same sequence of what's happening.
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  Whereas she has different settings, she has different blah
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  blah and she always has the taboo couples all the time.
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  That's like her. Must be her favorite.
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  It's always got to have some weird reason that they're
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  together and I'm into it. Yeah.
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  Oh my God, can I just say and look, I normally have a bit
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  extra time to read a book, so this is probably my bad, but I
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  feel like this book, it was hard for me to follow what was going
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  on. I feel like things weren't
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  described very well. It.
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  Dragged, But things weren't described because they'd be
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  talking to each other. And I'm like, they're on a float
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  or like that, you know what I mean?
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  Like they'd be dialogue. And they'd be thinking in their
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  head, and then they'll be describing how short her genes
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  are or what someone's skin look like.
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  But I'm like where are? They give.
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  Me, some basic arts, foundational information.
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  P dog. Like, I'm floating in one of
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  three places, essentially. And it was school and their
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  homes. That was it.
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  All I got was Clay had a nice home and Olivia lived in a swamp
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  trash, right? We know that Olivia has five
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  brothers. We've given such a basic
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  description. We know Macon, Macon.
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  Macon Bacon is the oldest one, right?
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  Mavis Beacon is the best. The old Mavis.
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  She taught everyone how to type. Also, he was like the surrogate
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  dad. Daddy was.
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  He was. He was Daddy.
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  He was daddy, and he had to take.
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  Over when both parents died. Yeah, when he was 23.
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  She was 10. I think she's youngest.
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  Yeah, she's baby. I was getting so confused with
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  all the brothers I know, but give us some distinguishing
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  features or anything about any of them.
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  Yeah, I know one had baby Mama drama.
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  Yeah. I kept getting confused.
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  And then, especially when they added jobs for them in, I was
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  like, who does the the gardening?
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  And then I talked about another one.
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  I was like, isn't that the other brother?
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  But I was just wrong all the time.
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  I needed some a bit more foundational help, and I think
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  that's just because I'm an idiot.
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  I'm not going to read every single word.
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  You're going to write Pennell like I'm not.
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  No. But The thing is like she
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  dragged because I think. I got to lie, it was like 250
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  pages and I just assumed it was done.
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  I didn't check the pages. I just, I was like, ah, we've
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  had the thing, we've got conflict.
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  They did together. Now that's it.
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  And then it just kept going for another 300 kids confused about
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  the plot. Kind of just stayed at the same
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  level the entire time. There was no big build.
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  Up and no Big Crash. There was no, it wasn't a roller
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  coaster. It was just flatlining.
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  Yeah, the whole time. Adding to the brothers too.
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  It felt like I liked reading with them.
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  And scenes, yeah, but there's so many added unnecessary
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  characters. Yeah, that made no sense.
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  Like Chloe in the end. What was her point?
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  What was the point? There was a lot of people that
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  were just there to make them jealous, but they weren't
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  actually into weird. I don't know.
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  But Clay is the more popular one, and she had her best
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  friends, Amy. And what was the other one?
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  Christian. Yeah, actually.
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  Christian And then there was Callum, Milo and the other one.
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  There was an extra 1. They're all the frat kind of
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  guys. Clay works part time at the
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  Mortuary. Yes, because secretly brother
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  died and she just fucking laid up on a slab the night of
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  fucking what she was 14. Sorry.
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  Even more reason not to do that. Crazy.
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  She's greeting me jumping a teenage girl, but like, how do
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  you even get in? First of all, security.
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  It's a Funeral Home. What security do they need,
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  actually, actually, considering they only really hire women.
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  Yeah, that guy got caught sexually abusing A bajillion and
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  that was under a hospital. That's just one guy to the many
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  that do it. That's the reason our security
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  bitch. I would love to debate with you
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  one day. New podcast video We debate.
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  Serious topics. Can you just prove my point?
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  No, I know. But at the time I wasn't
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  thinking about how gross men can be.
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  Bitch, It's all I think about. When I wake up, I was just.
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  I thought we would have a break from that this book, but clearly
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  it's still riddled with it. This book is going to let us off
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  that hook. Nah, it's honestly, it put us on
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  more. More of the hook.
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  Exactly. And Olivia?
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  Works at a tailor's like a dressmaking shop with some shit
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  on Fucking pee dog, please. Help me out girl.
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  Is it because their personalities should be the
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  other way around to their jobs? No, no, no.
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  I just never know where anybody is at any given time in this
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  book because they they have dialogue and the thoughts in
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  their head and then the actions that they're doing, but nobody
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  thought to put the. Backdrop of where each scene is.
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  You know what I mean? So I was always, I was like,
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  treading water in this pitch. I just always assumed the school
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  just sewing at school. Yeah.
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  So Clay needs a dress, bro. This is the most embarrassing
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  thing. OK, you ready?
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  It took me. I'm still not entirely
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  confident, but it took me fucking 50% through the book to
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  understand what sport they were playing.
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  You mean lacrosse? I fucking thought it was hockey.
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  It's kind of the same. Oh wait, is it?
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  Were they playing hockey or lacrosse?
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  Lacrosse. Oh shit, OK, it's so I didn't
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  want the same. It had sticks.
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  Do they keep it on the ground or do they?
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  Is lacrosse the one on the ground?
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  This is the one where they throw it in there, but they were doing
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  a lot of. But it didn't say like once you
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  know Clay and Olivia, they've been on the same lacrosse team
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  it. Did talk?
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  No. Well, I feel like it didn't.
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  And then, like the point where she goes.
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  This is why I joined the lacrosse.
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  I don't have reading comprehension.
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  Oh shit, I don't know. And it was a lot at the start.
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  I thought they were in like Enemy Teens because it made a
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  lot of sense because that would make more simple in each other
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  and oh geez. But anyway, they're on the same
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  lacrosse team, Lacrosse team. So the dressmaking scene.
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  So Clay needed a dress. And it was the debutante.
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  Yeah, the debut taste, debut taste.
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  And that's why she was going there, because Olivia had to.
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  I think she was wearing that dress.
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  I think she was wearing, like, her old Oscarmas dress, her
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  Mimi's. Oh really?
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  Yeah. Oh, and then they they were
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  tailoring it, customizing it. But they hate each other.
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  They've hate each other for at least three years.
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  It's the gays, right? So gay relationships start just
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  fucking hating each other the. Bullies.
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  The bullying was weird. I was like, it's a bully
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  romance. Have you read a bully romance?
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  Not technically, except for that Saints one, but that was more
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  like abusive than school bullying.
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  Oh, the famous ones. Yeah, that one.
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  Yeah, that one was weird, though.
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  That's not a good that wasn't like a school bully.
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  That doesn't count as a book. Also, the part of the taboo part
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  of this was there in opposing families.
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  It was very fetishized. A little bit, yeah.
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  And it was funny because they were doing Romeo and Juliet as
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  the play, and it's very much Romeo and Juliet.
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  Them. Yeah, with the opposing
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  families, it was like, slap me around the face with it, why
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  don't you? Again, again, I get it.
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  Only one thing I do understand. I every time they did the play
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  bits. I'm not going to lie, I just
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  skimmed. I didn't even read it.
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  I I'm just not a fan. A Nah.
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  I can't read through someone practicing.
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  It's like trying to read the script of Glee episode.
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  I do not care. It gives me the ick.
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  It's like going to a live bench. No, no.
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  It's like watching your boyfriend sing and play guitar.
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  Does it? No, it's too much dress.
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  But in the dressing room scenes, I don't even know, like, what is
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  going on, like get someone else to line you up or whatever.
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  Wouldn't you just stab her with a pin?
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  She's pretty much put of Nick a couple of times.
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  And so Megan is the assistant coach.
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  Yeah, she's a couple years older than them, a year or two.
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  But the the reason why that was scandalous is because she's a
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  student and she's the assistant coach, so she's technically
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  staff. Yeah.
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  And at the start, I didn't even think Megan liked her.
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  I'm so. Oblivious, I was like.
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  Like, whatever. I was like, just anyone being
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  nice to Olivia. Yeah, And then Clay was so
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  pissed. Yeah, she's like, no one's
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  allowed to be nice to her. No one's allowed to spot her.
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  But her team, Everyone has to treat her election.
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  And technically, everyone does treat Olivia election.
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  They call her a dike, like everyone.
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  The general populist doesn't like her family.
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  They're all dropped out. They're all known for being the
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  complete skanks of town. They're weird to me in that
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  sense, but we can get to that. Yeah, there's a lot of things I
• 18:10
  have to say about that, but I mean, yeah, that's that's all it
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  is. We know that they've been
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  bullying each other back and forth for three whole years.
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  I actually don't understand the turn around by the end of the
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  book of no one bullying her at all.
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  What the fuck? Because it's like her and Clay
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  are together and now no one's bullying her.
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  Yeah, Problem solve it. Problem solved.
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  It was only clay that was the problem, apparently.
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  Would you ever? I know it's a bully romance, but
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  would you ever forgive someone treating you like that for four
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  years? No, absolutely not.
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  But then that wouldn't be enemies to lovers, would it?
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  I know, but this one, this enemy's lovers, feels more
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  gross. OK, the bullying behavior
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  beforehand. I feel like it got worse when
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  they were like flirting and getting understanding that they
• 18:53
  liked each other. It was fucking worse during that
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  time than anything before. Why The fuck was every time they
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  were being sexual with each other, someone had it filmed.
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  Every single time they're either filming or taking photos.
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  Of it. It's like bitch Gossip Girl,
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  yeah. But like this bitch that you
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  shouldn't technically trust, they both had so much blackmail
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  on each other. Yeah.
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  It was weird. On Penelope Douglas does Worlds
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  out of this world. Yeah.
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  It's like this person that could technically flip around and say
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  that they were just fucking with me the whole time.
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  Yeah, it's cool that they film us doing this and have it on
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  their phone and put it on YouTube.
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  What young person is putting something on YouTube is going to
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  have no views? It's going to be embarrassing
• 19:35
  considering they kept bringing up TikTok.
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  I'm surprised they didn't just be like, oh, I uploaded it to
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  TikTok and why would revenge porn be on YouTube?
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  Who's looking at that Exactly like 20 year old men.
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  Actually true because who's searching up that?
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  Exactly what are you? You'd have to share it on your
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  Facebook and it'd be embarrassing.
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  Like no one shares a full YouTube video these days.
• 19:54
  Not of that, at least. You know that it would be like a
• 19:56
  Snapchat story that got deleted after 5 seconds, not a fucking
• 19:59
  YouTube video where it's going to get.
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  Demonetized and D It's going to get a lot more work to upload it
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  to YouTube than it is to tick tock to.
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  Yeah, it's going to process for like a whole hour.
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  She had that whole time to choose if she was going to.
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  Cancel it. She actually had.
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  I regretted it as soon as I posted it.
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  Fuck, it's buffering for half an hour.
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  How did you not change your mind in that time frame?
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  It doesn't make me. Have you been on the computer
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  before? Do you know how this works?
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  I mean, if you're gonna write about 17 year olds.
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  Also, let's OK. I had to pretend the entire time
• 20:39
  that we were not reading about 17 year olds because it was
• 20:42
  icky. Yeah, true.
• 20:43
  I didn't actually think about it until now.
• 20:45
  It was so icky because I'm just too.
• 20:46
  Old. Yeah, I was like more pretending
• 20:50
  that I was that age at the same time when I was reading it.
• 20:52
  OK. Fair, fair, fair.
• 20:53
  Because I was just like, yeah, OK, that's the only way to read
• 20:56
  it. I suppose there's a bit where
• 20:57
  there's a scavenger hunt. Oh yeah, and it's hosted by the
• 21:01
  school, but there's like a fake. There's a real scavenger hunt
• 21:05
  that's hosted by the school, but then there's a completely
• 21:08
  different list that everyone just does.
• 21:10
  I don't understand anything about that because it was like
• 21:14
  something that their side of the town did, but the school was
• 21:17
  like, if you're going to participate, you can do it
• 21:19
  without scavenger, huntless, yeah, doesn't matter.
• 21:23
  They're going to go wherever anyway.
• 21:25
  It's not even during school time.
• 21:26
  And they called it Night Tide. I think she was trying to relate
• 21:30
  to Devil's Night. So she has another separate
• 21:33
  series. It's like four or five books,
• 21:35
  and there's Devil's Night. It's like Halloween, where they
• 21:37
  run around and do shit like that.
• 21:39
  But they weren't giving us much. It was just go into the male's
• 21:43
  toilet and get a condom. And then a couple was banging in
• 21:46
  there. Yeah.
• 21:47
  Cool. Yeah.
• 21:49
  And then Clay got taken to her brother, which didn't make
• 21:53
  sense. I didn't.
• 21:54
  I feel like that wasn't on the list, wasn't it?
• 21:56
  Get a photo of you in an older man's bed.
• 21:59
  No, but that's what they did. They took a photo of her in
• 22:03
  Macon's bed. No, that was, I think, Clay's
• 22:06
  list. Yeah.
• 22:07
  No, I think she's just doing that to be funny because she
• 22:10
  waiting to make in bed like they trashed the house and then she
• 22:13
  was like this. Will send them into a spiral.
• 22:15
  I thought that was one of the things on the list.
• 22:16
  No. Did they even know that they
• 22:19
  liked each other yet? I don't.
• 22:21
  I think they had already kissed on the lacrosse field, or when
• 22:26
  they she pinned her down. I don't think they kissed.
• 22:28
  She was just struggling. Her.
• 22:30
  That's right. There was something.
• 22:31
  There was something tense. No, Yes.
• 22:34
  So they were straddling, she was straddling her, and they were in
• 22:36
  the rain, and then they went inside and that's where she
• 22:38
  drawed on her with all the sharpie.
• 22:40
  That was weird. Why would you let her keep?
• 22:44
  Yeah, I don't understand. Why would you?
• 22:46
  Why would you take your bra off and like, let her take your and
• 22:49
  I walk away, Just walk away. What's she going to do?
• 22:53
  I didn't. Get what was going on in that
• 22:55
  scene either. I was like, is this payback
• 22:57
  because she gets to see her at the dress shop, undressed kind
• 23:00
  of thing? Was that the point?
• 23:02
  Yeah, I don't know. How much would you kick that
• 23:03
  bitch in the head? If you if someone started
• 23:05
  writing Cellulite, if you can't touch me anyway, like what?
• 23:09
  Are you going to chase me? That's worse.
• 23:11
  You just look more weird if you don't.
• 23:13
  Chase me. They always have these weird
• 23:16
  moments on their own in the school.
• 23:18
  Like, why is the school always conveniently empty?
• 23:21
  Oh yeah, at all times? Who?
• 23:23
  How are you getting into the school all the time?
• 23:26
  And then so the guys, like, didn't clay hop on Iron's bike,
• 23:32
  motorbike during the scavenger hunt?
• 23:33
  Yeah, it was so weird. It was really weird because he
• 23:36
  was outside, I think the school or whatever function thing they
• 23:41
  were. Everything's the school.
• 23:42
  Everything's the school. It was so confusing, actually.
• 23:44
  That day I was so confused about where she was, cuz she got
• 23:47
  changed and had to get her mom to take her clothes home from
• 23:50
  the dressing room or something. But he was conveniently there
• 23:53
  just in front of exactly where she was.
• 23:55
  And then he didn't want to take her anywhere.
• 23:57
  And he was like, no, you're not happening.
• 23:59
  And he only let her when strangers came up and tried to
• 24:02
  give her a ride and she was like in a miniskirt, like trying to
• 24:05
  flash him or something. And I'm like, brah, there's easy
• 24:08
  ways to get a lift. She was.
• 24:11
  Just get her UPA like everyone pulling up her G.
• 24:13
  String and shit. Like that's what it sounded
• 24:15
  like. She was like, drop her down,
• 24:18
  Jack's in front of him. That's what it sounded.
• 24:20
  Like, could you just imagine? She's like a G string, but it's
• 24:26
  like up near her bra. She's like fuels for him, like
• 24:29
  she's doing. A Kath and Kim Hell walking down
• 24:31
  the road. Oh OK, so some of the
• 24:35
  homophobia. So Clay's family is the quitty,
• 24:38
  twitty, snobby ones that own everything, blah blah blah.
• 24:42
  Her parents are going through blah blah boring divorce
• 24:45
  problems, blah blah blah blah and she knows it.
• 24:48
  But they act like she's 5 and they're not ready to tell her he
• 24:51
  has a whole ass girlfriend. He's never at home.
• 24:55
  He's never there. He's letting her smoke.
• 24:58
  Yeah, like cigarettes not give a shit.
• 25:00
  Anyway, grandma's talking to Clay one day.
• 25:03
  Did you think that her speech was literally talking about
• 25:07
  doing gay shit? Because it really sounded like,
• 25:09
  yeah, I thought Mimi was gay and Mimi is just like, it's OK dear,
• 25:13
  everyone in the family is gay. You just.
• 25:15
  Don't want to be open about it. You just be gay.
• 25:19
  Just being gay at home. But.
• 25:22
  Like that's the whole competition sounded.
• 25:24
  Like, fuck off, grandma. That's what it was like.
• 25:28
  I'm like, I'm trying to work out if grandma knew she was gay, but
• 25:31
  then it feels like she didn't know she was gay.
• 25:33
  No, she was so mad about it, but she was the one who's pretty
• 25:36
  much saying just be gay, just go be gay, girl, just go to stay in
• 25:40
  the closet, but be gay. The only moments of enjoyment in
• 25:43
  our entire family lineage is when we're off doing gay shit,
• 25:46
  but we only do it once every year.
• 25:49
  It's like the only time we ever have any fun when we're doing
• 25:53
  gay shit off the ghost. But it was.
• 25:55
  But it was like, but keep that shit to yourself.
• 25:58
  You have a gay parade at the worst, but like, what is going
• 26:03
  on there? That was the weirdest
• 26:05
  conversation I've ever had to participate in.
• 26:08
  Mimi's gays and Clay's gays are two different gays, OK?
• 26:14
  I feel like Mimi's Loki talking. About the dad and the dad's
• 26:17
  actually got a boyfriend like off in Miami.
• 26:19
  He's also like stage. Why is it dancing with these in
• 26:27
  a full gay nightclub that he's the leather?
• 26:30
  And that's what Grandma was trying to like, hint at.
• 26:32
  And then Clay sitting there going, can't wait to fuck
• 26:35
  Olivia. She's like, is this the green
• 26:38
  light? Does she know?
• 26:40
  But why do you need a green light from your grandma?
• 26:42
  Me. Like she's too old.
• 26:45
  She's dying soon anyway. She was like, she's too old.
• 26:49
  She's too old to have an opinion.
• 26:54
  I don't know why. I thought this bitch was, like,
• 26:56
  crippled in a wheelchair like you.
• 26:58
  She sounded just go through your shit props.
• 27:01
  She sounded emotionally crippled, that's why.
• 27:04
  Yeah. What?
• 27:05
  OK, you're not that old, Grandma.
• 27:06
  The times have changed. You're.
• 27:08
  Like, relaxed. It's not like she was 100 years
• 27:11
  old and you're like, oh, it's fine, We we'll just live it out.
• 27:14
  She'll there's no point in explaining it that her brain's
• 27:17
  Wheeling grandma me into the nearest retirement home.
• 27:19
  That's how she was talking. That's too expensive.
• 27:22
  There's a whole of alligators. For us so true, just off the end
• 27:28
  of a short pier benoing. She's just going for her
• 27:33
  midnight stroll to a lot of hair.
• 27:35
  I just. I just don't get Grandma, what
• 27:38
  was the big thing? That was it was posting that
• 27:40
  video that was too much. Yeah, because Clay was creeping
• 27:44
  in the bushes when Olivia was full making out with Megan in
• 27:48
  the car. Yeah, that's too much.
• 27:49
  Like, did you walk past or did you?
• 27:51
  She was obviously stalking her. She just, she was out sniffing
• 27:55
  the car. She's been here.
• 27:59
  She Clay Wood. She's like, she's like.
• 28:03
  She's come back outside and then.
• 28:06
  She's like, how dare she, A single gay woman.
• 28:10
  Well, sort of child dot dot dot question mark.
• 28:14
  How dare she make out with a girl in a car all the bullet?
• 28:19
  If you're gonna bully someone for fucking three years without
• 28:22
  being gay, at least be consistent with allowing her to
• 28:24
  fucking hook up with someone. Let her be gay.
• 28:27
  Like, let her be gay like you can't bully someone for that
• 28:29
  much about doing something. And then the one time she gets
• 28:32
  laid, you're like, how dare? How dare she be gay?
• 28:36
  That's somewhat considerate of my feelings.
• 28:39
  How dare she do gay shit when I've been teasing her for a
• 28:42
  million years and she's literally gay?
• 28:46
  It's. Funny, But anyway, that's the
• 28:49
  video that got posted on YouTube, right?
• 28:51
  And then Clay regretted it. So then Olivia just reposted it.
• 28:56
  Yeah, Olivia woke up that link to all these notifications and
• 28:58
  she's like, oh shit. And then Clay deleted it.
• 29:01
  And then Olivia, by the time she talked to Clay again, Clay's
• 29:05
  like, I'm so sorry, I. Regret it and have an app and
• 29:08
  then she's like and then Olivia's like bitch, I've got it
• 29:12
  on a different account. Here it is, and it's going to
• 29:14
  hire you count and it's monetized.
• 29:18
  And then she's like, this is how I'm paying for that Now what?
• 29:21
  I can't control you bullying yourself, but that's all it was
• 29:26
  about. It was about controlling who was
• 29:28
  allowed to bully Olivia, and it only could be Clay in place.
• 29:32
  Bullying anyone is the weirdest shit ever, because she's like,
• 29:35
  I'm so powerful. And then she what?
• 29:37
  You go to college and it's like the Blair waldoss of of Gossip
• 29:42
  Girl all over again when no one gives a shit about her.
• 29:44
  But The thing is, no one gave that much of a shit about Olivia
• 29:47
  being gay. Nah, it was only Clay.
• 29:50
  Clay's like this guy. Is giving just gonna get out of
• 29:55
  the school? There was so many so straight
• 29:59
  there gays. She's the reason why we have to
• 30:02
  have shower cubicles instead of 1 big prison shower like.
• 30:08
  What the fuck? Like who wants a prison shower?
• 30:10
  And that's just good idea for private.
• 30:12
  Should have been there. It's a private school.
• 30:15
  You pay millions of dollars to go there.
• 30:16
  They should have had cubicles anyway.
• 30:19
  I know. How hard is it to build a
• 30:20
  fucking cubicle? I mean, even public schools have
• 30:23
  that. I just feel like bare minimum.
• 30:25
  Being Australian, you always have cubicles, yeah?
• 30:28
  What the fuck? Sometimes, from what I remember
• 30:33
  from our public pool, I don't know if you've ever been in the
• 30:35
  public pool here. They don't have curtains.
• 30:40
  So you just thought, so you're just in a cubicle?
• 30:43
  Yeah, I remember cubicles having curtains back in my day, so I'm
• 30:49
  the only traumatizer. Maybe I just went to a shitter
• 30:51
  pill that you you wandered into the wrong area.
• 30:54
  You you walked into the nudist school, considering I went to a
• 30:59
  public school and you went to private school.
• 31:01
  I feel like this is what happened and This is why.
• 31:09
  Well, the public school couldn't spring for curtains.
• 31:14
  Where is the my tax money going? I feel like you were.
• 31:19
  You were never supposed to get naked in the public pool
• 31:21
  showers, but old women just get it all.
• 31:25
  But even like Australian locker rooms, you wouldn't get dressed
• 31:28
  down to the nutty. I feel like we're kind of
• 31:31
  conservative, like in gym bathroom, like you'd go in your
• 31:35
  cubicle to get change, but so locker room means something
• 31:39
  totally different over here. I suppose when you watch
• 31:41
  American TV shows, they'll have the locker room and they have
• 31:43
  them two. Like it's it's not separate
• 31:46
  showers on the wall. It's like 1 pole with six
• 31:48
  showers. Around, Yeah, Yeah.
• 31:50
  So that's even worse. So you're just making eye
• 31:52
  contact, being orgy in there every day.
• 31:54
  Fucking teenage hormones are kidding.
• 31:57
  They're just asking for people to get bullied at that point.
• 31:59
  Like, why are you supposed to shower?
• 32:01
  How do you got any privacy? I'm like a never nude in my own
• 32:05
  house Now I'm kidding. But I don't know how people look
• 32:10
  at this, people looking at my bits at my booty hole.
• 32:15
  First of all, why is your booty hole out?
• 32:21
  Sometimes it needs air. Really.
• 32:25
  In the public? Locker room is the the correct
• 32:28
  setting for that? I'm.
• 32:30
  Really setting for that, that's a little shivasana with your.
• 32:35
  Ass in the head. She was getting athlete's feet
• 32:38
  on your hands. The like public toilet.
• 32:42
  Oh my God, when is it a cry to have my ass hole free?
• 32:52
  So while Emily's giving everyone pink eye in the fucking.
• 32:55
  Shower room? Are you kidding?
• 32:56
  I know how to wash my own ass. Jesus.
• 33:01
  For us, I think we've never. Had to be in the wrong room
• 33:04
  together, because I would learn how thoroughly cleansed your
• 33:09
  fucking ass is in the certain baffling.
• 33:12
  OK, there's certain things I don't need to know.
• 33:18
  They're fucking. Dumb, actually, In Hawaii, To be
• 33:22
  fair, I wouldn't play any sports, so that's not a problem
• 33:25
  for me anyway. So Olivia was quitting school
• 33:29
  and quitting the team, and I think it was after the video.
• 33:32
  I think that was the final straw.
• 33:33
  Or there was something else. There was so much more.
• 33:35
  Oops, That's all I remember. Do you remember something
• 33:39
  before? So it's right at night Tide.
• 33:42
  OK, Yeah. So it's after night Tide.
• 33:44
  Remember when she stole the flag after dumping the bin?
• 33:49
  All the rubbish on Megan and they ran out into the swampland.
• 33:54
  That was so hilarious. Like I forgot about that.
• 33:57
  And then they just like pinned to a tree.
• 33:59
  And then there's hissing from the alligator stove.
• 34:01
  Why were you near the swamp? Is there swamps everywhere?
• 34:05
  The bit that was the best was when Olivia looked back
• 34:07
  dramatically and they just fucking booked it with their
• 34:10
  eyes everywhere. And then she just fucking read
• 34:13
  off. She was the best part, yeah.
• 34:15
  And then they rocked. Well, she rocked back up at
• 34:18
  school. And wasn't she feeling kind of
• 34:20
  bad clay? She's like excited to see her
• 34:24
  and she did. Is that when she did the
• 34:25
  flowers? Yeah, it was her birthday and
• 34:28
  then the coach or whatever is like, we've got to replace her
• 34:31
  position on the field because she's quit and she's going to
• 34:33
  home school and then Clay's in the shower and then Olivia's
• 34:37
  just. There, bare ass, naked in Clay's
• 34:40
  shower. How did she sneak in and get
• 34:42
  naked like they were just like, oh, she's not at practice, but
• 34:44
  she's just getting naked in there and no one else is.
• 34:47
  No one noticed. Why the fuck would school
• 34:51
  showers have a detachable shower head?
• 34:53
  All I'm saying, all I'm saying is they knew this was going to
• 34:58
  happen and instead of going the opposite, responsible way,
• 35:03
  they're like, let's just let it happen.
• 35:04
  There's no way they would do that.
• 35:07
  There's no. Way it was hilarious.
• 35:10
  I mean, if you're gonna spend $50,000 on a remodel, you might
• 35:13
  as well get the detachable shower heads.
• 35:16
  None of the girls would be leaving the bathroom.
• 35:20
  Where's the heart? Oh, they're in this.
• 35:22
  They're just they must love getting ready here.
• 35:26
  Then none of them had time to shower at home today.
• 35:28
  They're all just orgy. They're just lining up out the
• 35:30
  door. It's like timing it.
• 35:33
  Your 5 minutes is up, Kristen. This probably this next chunk
• 35:39
  was a bit of. Them playing lacrosse and shit,
• 35:42
  I'm so zoned out. Okay.
• 35:44
  So she quit school. Yeah.
• 35:47
  And then Kristen decided that she did not want to play the
• 35:51
  position that, yeah, I forget which position it was.
• 35:54
  It doesn't matter. So she shows up and convinces
• 35:58
  Olivia to go, and then they show up at the hotel and then there,
• 36:02
  Olivia's like, winning the game at this point.
• 36:04
  And then Christian. No Christian.
• 36:05
  And then Clay jumps in and then they get in the fight and they
• 36:08
  forfeit. And that's how they end up in
• 36:10
  the hotel room. And that's when they have sex
• 36:12
  for the second time, OK? There was time in the locker
• 36:15
  room where they were making out and like, grinding, standing up.
• 36:19
  And I'm just trying to work out the logistics because that's how
• 36:21
  that happened. That's a lot of.
• 36:23
  This is how you know I'm not gay.
• 36:27
  It's too difficult to be gay. They both have one leg up.
• 36:32
  I feel like everyone had a leg up and I feel like that that's
• 36:35
  why I'm confused. I'm like, that's a lot of weight
• 36:38
  on one leg shower, so. No, she's on the locker wall,
• 36:43
  all right. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
• 36:45
  I need to Google this later. I don't even.
• 36:49
  I don't even know. Don't you think the book was
• 36:51
  trying to be like a hockey romance?
• 36:54
  Because they tried to put the sport in there like we're
• 36:56
  supposed to care, kind of like. Cool.
• 36:59
  Yeah, I think it was just to add, but it wasn't enough.
• 37:02
  No, the sport, but you need to. The sport needs to be
• 37:04
  consistently from beginning to end.
• 37:06
  Yeah, they were trying to cram too many different things.
• 37:09
  Funny how long the book was and considering how much they tried
• 37:12
  to jam in there. Yeah, there was lacrosse.
• 37:14
  There was this fucking over the Tracks debutante.
• 37:17
  Yeah, the scavenger hunt thing. Working in the Funeral Home,
• 37:21
  doing dress designing theater. There's a lot.
• 37:24
  I know. There was so much time to fuck
• 37:28
  24/7. And then, OK, so we didn't even
• 37:31
  talk about this, but you know the the start, Callum.
• 37:34
  And the guys? What the fuck was that?
• 37:39
  That we had packed thing at the very beginning?
• 37:42
  How? It was pretty much saying, oh,
• 37:43
  yeah, I'll, I'll forfeit the lead in the play if you fuck
• 37:49
  Clay in front of us. Like a performance sort of
• 37:52
  thing. No, it wasn't even Clay.
• 37:53
  It was some random girl. Yeah, but I thought it was
• 37:56
  supposed to be clay. No.
• 37:57
  And I was like, why did you stitch?
• 37:59
  Sexual predator. That's all it is.
• 38:01
  But why did Olivia pretty much agree to it?
• 38:04
  Cuz she wasn't going to go, I don't think.
• 38:06
  And you just didn't get she. They never gave us more context
• 38:08
  of why she really needed it. Besides that she didn't get a
• 38:12
  lead role. Cuz I thought, OK, this sounds
• 38:14
  way more juicy. Cuz I thought it was gonna be a
• 38:16
  pact where she was like, yeah, I can have sex with Clay and then
• 38:20
  I'll get the lead role. And then along the way she liked
• 38:24
  her and then she did it and then it got found out after because
• 38:28
  then that would make her look really horrible.
• 38:30
  And I thought that's how they were going to break up.
• 38:32
  Yeah, because that makes sense because then Clay would be like.
• 38:35
  You used me all year, but no, it was like you have sex with this
• 38:40
  random girl in front of us to so we can get off on it.
• 38:43
  Reason it was so, yeah, like, brah, just pay someone to do
• 38:48
  that. What's going on?
• 38:49
  You guys are rich. I mean, you paid one girl.
• 38:50
  Why couldn't you pay another one?
• 38:51
  I know you're so rich. But it was to get back at
• 38:54
  Dallas. Like it had to be Olivia.
• 38:57
  Yeah, it had to be Olivia. If you had to hear about this
• 38:59
  fucking flag one more time. Yeah, actually, it made no
• 39:03
  fucking sense. Just make a new one.
• 39:05
  Is this like, the family flag? And so it was just you've got a
• 39:08
  whole fucking sewing lady in your mouth.
• 39:11
  Just make another one. And they've already got their
• 39:15
  underlying issues because of the land and what developments are
• 39:19
  coming up and blah, blah, blah. We never got to understand what
• 39:22
  what happened with any of that. For Macon's trouble, he was
• 39:26
  like, he's under so much stress as well.
• 39:27
  Than you know what? Tell us what is.
• 39:32
  I mean, you've got all this time.
• 39:34
  Yeah. Just give me a minute.
• 39:36
  Yeah. Explain it.
• 39:37
  Yeah, exactly. I don't think she's too, like,
• 39:39
  young to not understand. She understands perfectly fine.
• 39:42
  I know. They're like, old enough now.
• 39:45
  Oh, my God. Sorry.
• 39:45
  There's this bit in the book and there's an actual quote.
• 39:48
  And I was dying. I gasp, nearly choking on my
• 39:52
  breath as my knees give out and I slide down the wall.
• 39:56
  And I can't deal with the fact that she was actually crying,
• 39:59
  sliding down the wall. Shittings this is.
• 40:03
  The most dramatic book I've ever read like it's giving teenager.
• 40:09
  That's probably the entirely the whole point.
• 40:12
  She's crying, sliding down the wall.
• 40:13
  I never cry about anything. So I'm.
• 40:16
  I couldn't relate. It can't relate same.
• 40:19
  I don't even know. I don't even know because I
• 40:20
  think they both did it at some point.
• 40:24
  The funny thing is, is I feel like their own problems, they
• 40:28
  made them seem so much worse than they even were anyway.
• 40:32
  Yeah, because even when the coach walked in on them
• 40:34
  practically grinding on each other, they said that makes a
• 40:36
  lot of sense and just walked out.
• 40:38
  Yeah, not a single person. Cared.
• 40:41
  No. No one was doing.
• 40:42
  Not even the parents. They were the only ones
• 40:44
  recording each other. No one was even recording it and
• 40:47
  putting it on like T Tock being like, oh look at these fucking
• 40:49
  lesbians. Nobody cares.
• 40:51
  I actually think it was only Clay recording.
• 40:54
  I don't remember Olivia doing. It oh, no one cares.
• 40:58
  Girlies, relax. Everyone's doing their own
• 41:01
  things. It's the most dramatic book I've
• 41:02
  ever read. Considering what's been
• 41:04
  happening. It's kind of like, bro, you guys
• 41:06
  all brought this on yourself and then you get to the end and they
• 41:10
  have little, they mentioned little side plot, very small
• 41:14
  slide plots and like that would have been more interesting.
• 41:18
  OK, so can we get to the hotel room where they properly first
• 41:21
  have sex? Where they fuck there's two
• 41:23
  other girls. They had stayed up all night.
• 41:25
  They're like, chitchatting at the same time, though.
• 41:28
  Yeah, I'd be like, shut the fuck up, bitch.
• 41:31
  I'm trying to sleep. If there's no way they're that
• 41:34
  heavier of a sleeper, No way. There's no way.
• 41:37
  Why actually think they got up and left so immediately?
• 41:41
  Because they knew that they were doing shit in the bed?
• 41:43
  Yeah, because there's no way you'd hang around.
• 41:45
  Because if that was normal, right?
• 41:47
  And you're just four girls after a big night and you're in the
• 41:50
  same hotel room. You'd press fucking snooze or
• 41:54
  you'd screw. On TikTok you'd be in bed.
• 41:57
  You wouldn't. Just be like, I'm gonna go get
• 41:58
  Starbucks. I'm gonna go to the shower.
• 42:00
  I wouldn't immediately. She didn't even get dressed.
• 42:03
  She went in her pajamas. They knew they must have.
• 42:06
  No, Kristen didn't know. She did bring it up.
• 42:08
  Like towards the end. Yeah, she was the moment in bed,
• 42:11
  grinding and moaning on each other.
• 42:13
  Once, when I was like 16, a girl, I was friends.
• 42:17
  I was on a bunk bed and a girl I was friends with had sex on the
• 42:19
  bottom bunk bed and she thought I was dead asleep and I'm still
• 42:22
  traumatized and you're just like, I'm here, bitch.
• 42:25
  You can't. There's no way to not hear it.
• 42:27
  There's no way. Do you reckon they just laid
• 42:31
  there? Like, what do we do?
• 42:32
  Probably. They probably set up their
• 42:34
  alarm. They're like trying to get out
• 42:36
  and out to get out of it, yeah. Because you know, when you're
• 42:39
  that awkward third wheel person. Yeah, you can't just get up and
• 42:43
  leave. You'd have to do one of these
• 42:45
  ones. Oh geez.
• 42:48
  Oh, I am awake. Oh, I really need.
• 42:51
  I need Starbucks in my pajamas. Bye bye.
• 42:54
  Bye. She didn't even put her shoes
• 42:55
  on. She was, like, racing out the
• 42:57
  door. She's like, I've had enough.
• 42:58
  I need a minute. Oh my God.
• 43:00
  So I've been violated. So it's funny because I was
• 43:04
  warned about the debutante for the entire book was.
• 43:07
  It any less angry when we got to it?
• 43:10
  No, I was more angry. I was equally angry.
• 43:15
  Equally because why? It's so.
• 43:19
  Weird and. The whole book.
• 43:22
  They were fitting this stupid fucking dress and then what
• 43:25
  happens? They just buy different dress
• 43:28
  and then it just makes her fucking tux.
• 43:33
  Yeah, cuz Clay chooses the tux we got about girl choices.
• 43:36
  OK after. Wearing this dress all year, I'm
• 43:41
  as mad as the grandma now. Remember how she's like I can
• 43:44
  feel my grandma's madness somewhere in the room.
• 43:47
  How, how, how, how? Go.
• 43:50
  Mimi's got rage, but before they even get to the ball, they had
• 43:54
  the weirdest breakup ever. I was like, what the fuck are
• 43:56
  you guys doing? There was a lot of weird shit in
• 43:59
  this book. It's like Clayton already goes,
• 44:01
  I don't like you anymore, and then just walked off.
• 44:05
  That was. Practically how I read it.
• 44:08
  And then Olivia was crying and like sewing the tux.
• 44:13
  She'll love me again. Idiot.
• 44:16
  Idiot. Oh my God.
• 44:20
  Just there was like nonstop weird situations they would put
• 44:26
  in. Like the lighthouse?
• 44:27
  Yeah, before Kristen was stolen away by my not surprised by
• 44:35
  Milo. And then they get in a big fight
• 44:38
  on the street in the rain. Why?
• 44:41
  Just a little movie moment, Just a little singing in the rain.
• 44:44
  So are we up to the debutante ball yet?
• 44:46
  Because no, not much came of it. I don't wait.
• 44:49
  Was it before the ball? Everything is before the ball.
• 44:53
  Callum is talking to Clay. And then he just knows that
• 44:56
  she's had sex. I was what I wanted to know,
• 45:00
  too, because I don't understand how he knew.
• 45:02
  He he's like, oh, I can just tell.
• 45:04
  So who's the guy? No, probably one of the Jager
• 45:07
  guys or whatever. Jager.
• 45:09
  What I was like he knows she's gay, but he only knows she's gay
• 45:13
  because he's gay. But he didn't really know that
• 45:16
  she was gay because he kept being like, who's the glow I can
• 45:19
  do better than him? Him.
• 45:20
  Him. Yeah.
• 45:21
  And then there was a point where he, like, pinned her to the
• 45:23
  wall. And then she was looking at
• 45:25
  Olivia, and she was like, oh, I know.
• 45:27
  Yeah, but surprise, surprise, Callum was.
• 45:31
  Weird, so that they're back. They're back at it again, right?
• 45:35
  And then after Olivia and Clay were hooking up, plays like how
• 45:39
  did. You lose your virginity, and
• 45:41
  this was after they had just made a big deal about virginity
• 45:44
  not mattering. And then, hey, good little pissy
• 45:47
  about it. She was like, you knew me in
• 45:50
  that time. It could have been me.
• 45:51
  Could have been you. Hated each other.
• 45:53
  You. If you wanted her, you could
• 45:55
  have. Yeah.
• 45:57
  But she was too busy calling her a dyke and making everyone hate
• 46:00
  her. And she's like.
• 46:02
  How do you hook up with someone else?
• 46:04
  It could have. Before we even knew that I
• 46:07
  fucking liked Puss. Clay didn't even know that she
• 46:12
  liked Girls. And then she's blaming Olivia
• 46:15
  and she was like, I just wanted to be your first and it would be
• 46:18
  a bit like a awkward because the situation was bad.
• 46:22
  Olivia didn't even because that night the girl went and hooked
• 46:25
  up with her brother Iron. And I'm like, why would that
• 46:28
  girl need to hook up with her to get to Iron?
• 46:31
  He's a teenage. She couldn't just work out
• 46:35
  everyone's ages. Right.
• 46:37
  But like Iron being part of the family that is just all slots.
• 46:42
  Yeah. Why would that girl need to
• 46:43
  sleep with her first to get to him that same day?
• 46:46
  Apparently a lot of them were doing it.
• 46:48
  They'd sleep with Trace to get with the other one.
• 46:51
  I'm like, how big is your age range?
• 46:53
  Because make him was 33. Yeah, Army was 28.
• 46:58
  And I'm like, between there, you've got between 18 and 28,
• 47:03
  right? So if the girl.
• 47:04
  Hooking up with iron Olivia. Olivia was she was 15 and
• 47:10
  Iron's. I'm assuming it goes Iron Dallas
• 47:13
  Trace. God, I don't even know.
• 47:15
  But that would mean Army's 28. Oh OK.
• 47:19
  So does that mean like a 20 year old was hooking up with like 15
• 47:25
  year old? Or an 18 was 15 year old?
• 47:28
  Or was I and the predator hooking up with 15 year olds?
• 47:33
  Wild, wild, wild pea dog loves the weird, incestuous
• 47:39
  relationships too. She does with the brothers, yes.
• 47:42
  And they're just like tag teaming girls and stuff
• 47:45
  together, together. Credence was written by her too.
• 47:48
  Hey, yeah, yeah. And they had the weird threesome
• 47:51
  with the brothers as well. So confusing.
• 47:54
  I know they have threesomes. Yeah, all the time.
• 47:57
  Just high five each other. They're like, cool.
• 47:59
  I'm like, that's weird, bro. If it was any other man, that
• 48:04
  would be normal. Don't have a reason with your
• 48:06
  brother. I knew I.
• 48:07
  Was just sitting in the bar, pretty lone.
• 48:10
  I'm like, just just not with your brother.
• 48:13
  You wouldn't have one with your sister, So don't have one with
• 48:15
  your brother. Yeah.
• 48:15
  It's like, do you have any other friends, Bro, It doesn't make
• 48:18
  any sense. I don't think I'd ever, if I was
• 48:21
  a man, I don't think I'd ever be that comfortable with my
• 48:24
  brother. No.
• 48:24
  What the fuck? That's weird.
• 48:26
  It's definitely something wrong there and OK, so this was so
• 48:30
  confusing. Yes, they'd hooked up a couple
• 48:32
  times, but they'd be back and forth with the hating each other
• 48:36
  and then they're they're loving each other too now.
• 48:38
  Yeah, out of nowhere. They haven't even had those
• 48:41
  proper deep combos yet. Hadn't even had any complain.
• 48:45
  I love Olivia. No conversation.
• 48:48
  No conversation at all. That was not a single time they
• 48:52
  actually had a conversation. And also just admit that you
• 48:55
  want to go at it like rabbits because of your newfound
• 48:58
  lesbianism before she goes off to college.
• 49:00
  Just admit it and just get to it then.
• 49:03
  Yeah. This is my gripe with a lot of
• 49:05
  romance books. Like why do they always have to
• 49:07
  go to? We have to turn this into
• 49:09
  happily ever after. Yeah.
• 49:10
  When Realistically, this wouldn't be a happily ever after
• 49:13
  in real life. No, probably not.
• 49:14
  It'd be more satisfying if they just hate fucked and then big
• 49:18
  blow up. Like that'd be way more juicy.
• 49:21
  But I think people get too upset about it, that authors are too
• 49:24
  scared to do something like that.
• 49:26
  There's books written out there like that.
• 49:28
  There must be. Oh my God, guess what someone's
• 49:31
  name is Kuma. That.
• 49:36
  Isn't that the coach. That must be her surname, right?
• 49:41
  For fuck's sake, I thought it was her first name, because
• 49:43
  everybody's name is trash. I'm like Kuma into them, like
• 49:48
  when they were fucking. Dry humping over each other in
• 49:52
  the locker room, It's just very, very risky.
• 49:55
  Wide open. They'd be like, look like we
• 49:57
  don't want anyone to know, but we're just going to dry hump on
• 50:00
  the desk. That's it.
• 50:01
  Dry humping on the bleachers in front of everyone, like on the
• 50:04
  football game. Like we just want anyone to
• 50:05
  know, though. Don't look at us.
• 50:07
  I mean, right before Callum traps Clay, she's like fingering
• 50:12
  her next to the bleachers. Yeah, I didn't get fucked.
• 50:16
  Yeah, every time they fucked, they were taking photo.
• 50:18
  Evidence and shit. It's like, OK.
• 50:21
  And always when they were having sex, a phone would be ringing.
• 50:24
  Yeah. And she had a phone call with
• 50:26
  her mom. Yeah, that's great.
• 50:27
  While Olivia hadn't stopped, and that was after the hotel when
• 50:30
  they that was their first hook up with the other two girls in
• 50:33
  the room. Literally get a room.
• 50:34
  Guys, you live in separate houses like you can.
• 50:38
  I don't really understand Olivia because at the start of the book
• 50:42
  she was like, I'll never out you, but then you get passed out
• 50:46
  about a chapter or two and she immediately wants her outed.
• 50:49
  I'm like, yeah, she's just coming to term with the fact
• 50:52
  that she's gay. She's just worked it out that
• 50:54
  she's gay. But don't you think this was
• 50:56
  very much by erasure? Yeah.
• 50:59
  Even the other characters were like, boy doesn't exist, You're
• 51:01
  clearly gay. It's like she hasn't even
• 51:03
  figured it out. She was saying, maybe I'm just
• 51:05
  experimenting. I don't even know if I'm gay.
• 51:07
  Yeah. And then they're like, you can't
• 51:08
  be by what? So there's like a zero or
• 51:11
  lesbian. That's what they acted like.
• 51:13
  And I was like, what? Because even Olivia Biphobic
• 51:17
  would be like, you're not bi kind of thing.
• 51:19
  You're gay. You're straight gay.
• 51:21
  How do you. She's like, I just want to work
• 51:22
  at you to know how gay you are. She might.
• 51:24
  Be She's got a whole lot of time to work it out.
• 51:27
  And who says she's not just fucking her because she gets
• 51:30
  like a million orgasms out of it, bro.
• 51:32
  The fact that Olivia was always the one wearing full clothes,
• 51:36
  finger blasting clay and then she was coming.
• 51:39
  How? How?
• 51:40
  Actually I would like to know but clearly I want to know too.
• 51:45
  I'm like. They were kissing once and she
• 51:47
  was like, I'm going to come and I'm like, what?
• 51:52
  Fucking where? And then also there were bits in
• 51:57
  there where they acted to this as if them having oral sex or
• 52:01
  finger busting wasn't enough sex with the hymen thing.
• 52:04
  They were like, am I gonna be a virgin?
• 52:07
  Am I still a virgin? Or she has to put something
• 52:10
  inside me. Otherwise we haven't had.
• 52:12
  And I was like, that's very decent sex erasure.
• 52:14
  That doesn't look like. Yeah, I feel like.
• 52:16
  That doesn't count. They had sex.
• 52:18
  No, they definitely had sex. That's what I mean.
• 52:20
  I mean, like the whole Greek sex, like you do it is sex.
• 52:24
  So you're not a virgin anymore. But they were very much like, we
• 52:26
  have to go buy a double ended dildo.
• 52:28
  Otherwise it's not real. I'm like, I'm like, have a yeah.
• 52:32
  Where I'm like enjoy your double ended dildo, but you've.
• 52:35
  Already had sex. I know, the virgin, the
• 52:38
  virginity's longer one. It was like.
• 52:41
  Where it was so funny. I feel like the constant pussy
• 52:45
  grinding, yeah. Right.
• 52:48
  And they were. Like fucking pushing their pussy
• 52:51
  flesh into each other and they're still like I need to get
• 52:54
  a phallic object. I'm.
• 52:58
  Like girl that was 10 chapters ago.
• 53:01
  You've lost your virginity a year ago at this point.
• 53:04
  It's very straight behavior. Yeah, it was.
• 53:06
  Because I feel like if you're in a lesbian relation to Bright,
• 53:09
  like just Gold Star lesbian have never had sex with a man.
• 53:12
  What if you don't care about penetration, ever?
• 53:14
  Does that mean you're not fucking a couple?
• 53:16
  Centrelink would say you still are.
• 53:19
  Centrelink's like you did Factor.
• 53:22
  Yeah, like, I mean, if Centrelink can recognize you,
• 53:27
  everyone else can deal with it. Not everyone needs to have
• 53:29
  penetrative sex. I feel real Centrelink has like
• 53:32
  an option. It was like de facto but pussy
• 53:34
  grinding. If it means taking more money
• 53:38
  off you for tax purposes, of course you're dating.
• 53:42
  You're not gonna call Centrelink and just be like with scissor
• 53:44
  only. Dude.
• 53:48
  I can't wait to be on hold for two hours.
• 53:50
  When I'm in a gay relationship, say that we're not.
• 53:54
  We're not. Using a dollar dillos, so it
• 53:58
  doesn't count. It just you're going to pay me.
• 54:01
  It doesn't count. You're going to pay me full
• 54:03
  rates because yeah, I get the full tax benefit.
• 54:07
  Yeah. It's like saying anal doesn't
• 54:09
  count when you're a super Christian.
• 54:12
  Anal is like, crazy. So.
• 54:13
  You get into the friction is still going, do you?
• 54:23
  They get. So many of them get pregnant
• 54:25
  from soaking alone, and you were telling me that's not it's not
• 54:30
  very good sex. What else isn't sex?
• 54:33
  It's funny because it's very straight centric, like how we've
• 54:36
  used sex in the mainstream. It's only P&V and anything else
• 54:40
  isn't real sex. But then people are so shook
• 54:43
  about people being gay. It's like, well, people, they're
• 54:45
  not having sex. They're actually having sex.
• 54:48
  So like, you you. Why are you thinking about them
• 54:52
  having sex when they don't? Actually, that's not real.
• 54:54
  It's not really. Gay sex isn't a thing.
• 54:56
  I don't know what you're doing. That's what I found annoying
• 55:00
  about this book. Clay would say.
• 55:01
  Little things here and there being like, oh, I can't wait
• 55:03
  till we actually have sex. I'm like, girl, you're getting
• 55:07
  more orgasms than you would if you had P&P Anyway, so like
• 55:10
  what? She wanted to smash that.
• 55:12
  Hymen into a billion pieces. She.
• 55:15
  And then why do we have to get the gross detail about her
• 55:17
  washing the blood off? Like, chill?
• 55:19
  No thanks. It wasn't for me, surely.
• 55:24
  I feel like a vibrator wouldn't break the hymen.
• 55:27
  I guess they didn't say how big it was.
• 55:29
  That was a huge, huge dildo. Huge.
• 55:33
  Yeah. Oh my God.
• 55:34
  So Callum is so bizarre. Like he switched to be the bad
• 55:37
  guy. But he was sometimes he was
• 55:40
  consent king. And then sometimes I was like,
• 55:42
  what? I don't understand.
• 55:44
  I don't understand. And he talks to Clay like he
• 55:47
  owns Clay. Yeah.
• 55:48
  And he's like, no, we can just do all of our own shit and then
• 55:51
  we're just going to get back together.
• 55:53
  She doesn't even like sitting next to you, bro.
• 55:54
  Like, she's so uncomfortable. She was talking to it.
• 55:57
  He's like, I know you're gay. I'm not going to tell you I'm
• 56:00
  also gay, but we can be gay and be each other's beards.
• 56:04
  But he was just that horrible about it, because if he was
• 56:07
  like, dude, I'm gay too, can we just.
• 56:10
  Write. And it didn't make any sense
• 56:12
  because they're 17. By the time they're old enough
• 56:14
  to quote, UN quote, be expected to be married, no one cares.
• 56:17
  They're at least going to be 25, right?
• 56:19
  It's modern day, so why would you wait that long to then get
• 56:24
  married? So you have more power on a more
• 56:26
  political from who's stopping you?
• 56:29
  Who says that's what you're going to do?
• 56:31
  But he he expected it. For why?
• 56:34
  Yeah, he's like, we'll we'll go to college and come back and
• 56:36
  build a fucking city. And it didn't.
• 56:38
  You're in the middle of fucking nowhere.
• 56:39
  No one gives a shit. And it didn't even need to be
• 56:42
  Clay. No, go find that beard at
• 56:45
  college. Go date Amy.
• 56:48
  Yeah, Amy was down. Yeah.
• 56:51
  Wait, was it Christian? No, it was Amy that caught him.
• 56:54
  Yeah, in the room when they'll dry humping on the desk.
• 56:58
  And she was such a bitch. So how much I make religious?
• 57:02
  She was like, it's only meant to be between a man and a woman.
• 57:05
  Nothing. She's like it's a sin.
• 57:07
  What? So down the track, I have to be
• 57:08
  your neighbors when you have your gross adopted baby?
• 57:11
  I was. Like.
• 57:12
  Whoa. Like, what if they don't even
• 57:16
  want kids, bro, She's going off. Yeah, who said she's going to be
• 57:20
  your neighbor, you crusty bitch. But since when you get to pick
• 57:24
  your neighbor. Because anyway, I hope she gets
• 57:26
  next to the gayest couple out down the track.
• 57:28
  Like a Big Bear gay couple? Yeah.
• 57:31
  Like hairy, gay. Obnoxiously gay?
• 57:34
  Yeah, No. I heard.
• 57:36
  That's who she has to live next to her just to rile her up with
• 57:39
  her weird little cult children. Here's the thing.
• 57:44
  When they're homophobic, That homophobic?
• 57:46
  Yeah. All they think about is gay
• 57:48
  people having sex. Yeah, that's literally it.
• 57:50
  Because when I think about gay people, I don't think about them
• 57:52
  having snow, just thinking about them as normal people.
• 57:56
  I'm like, Oh yeah, cool. I.
• 57:58
  Know. Good for that.
• 57:59
  Weird. Like why do you guys care so
• 58:01
  much? So the Yaga family, they kept
• 58:05
  bringing up the whole Everyone is our type when they're naked.
• 58:08
  Yeah, and it's embarrassing. And they were bringing it up
• 58:10
  like it was cool. And this is when they were like
• 58:12
  high fiving about doing tag teaming girls and stuff and I
• 58:16
  was like their family's a little deranged.
• 58:18
  I'm not going to lie, that slogan was so it's just so
• 58:21
  embarrassing. Like, just way to admit that
• 58:23
  you're spreading fucking herpes in the whole town or something.
• 58:26
  Like, I don't know. Just trying to understand her
• 58:28
  family. I use like a little gang because
• 58:32
  her older brother seemed to run. I They're trying to be gang.
• 58:36
  Sons of Anarchy, yeah. But I don't know, but on a kid
• 58:39
  level. Like a kid bop version.
• 58:44
  Oh, so they were over at Clay's house fucking like little wild
• 58:50
  animals. Yeah, yeah.
• 58:51
  And then no, that Harris came. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
• 58:54
  Correction, they're not actually having sex.
• 58:57
  No, that is. Isn't that the day they had the
• 58:59
  vibrator? So it was real.
• 59:00
  It was at Olivia's house. They did it in the shower.
• 59:02
  My bad. OK, so then Clay's parents come
• 59:05
  home and they hear the argument like they overhear it.
• 59:08
  And they're, like, cuddled up, like, and Olivia's like
• 59:11
  comforting her in my shower. Yeah.
• 59:13
  I'd be out that window so fast. Yeah.
• 59:15
  I'm, I'm not here. I'm not here.
• 59:17
  I'd be like, slow you bitch. But anyway, and then the dad's
• 59:20
  like, oh, I've only got a girlfriend because that's the
• 59:23
  only way I can deal with hanging around until fucking Clay
• 59:27
  finishes school. Bro, you're not even around.
• 59:29
  Anyway, we've heard about you once.
• 59:32
  Yeah, and every time he's immediately at the house he's on
• 59:35
  2 seconds later. I'm like, are you flying?
• 59:37
  I don't know how far Miami and Florida from each other.
• 59:40
  Are you driving back and forth for no reason?
• 59:42
  Flying back and forth for no reason.
• 59:44
  All he does is go to the debutante pool and then it's all
• 59:47
  good from there. All Gucci from there.
• 59:49
  How much do we care about Clay's parents' problems, though?
• 59:52
  As a reader, because I don't give a singular fuck, no.
• 59:56
  Also, Olivia's mom killed herself.
• 59:59
  Clay's brother got sick and died.
• 1:00:00
  So they both have their own trauma.
• 1:00:02
  Yeah, but do they talk it through?
• 1:00:04
  Probably. No do.
• 1:00:05
  They still have a. Bonding moment about it.
• 1:00:07
  No, no. Therapy is not real on books.
• 1:00:10
  It's funny how Olivia's mom had six kids and was like, I
• 1:00:13
  regretted having six. Don't have fucking one.
• 1:00:16
  What do you mean? I.
• 1:00:18
  Have one. Don't have 6.
• 1:00:20
  But did we know why she killed herself?
• 1:00:23
  She had really bad mental illness problems and her the dad
• 1:00:27
  died and then she took herself. The dad was the only one that
• 1:00:30
  could get her through. That's a lot of responsibility.
• 1:00:34
  So when clay. Hints that it's Olivia that's
• 1:00:38
  been sleeping over and stuff and then she just comes out with it
• 1:00:41
  and says I love Olivia. She was just a bit like, that's
• 1:00:44
  crazy. There was no even reaction from
• 1:00:47
  the dad. The mom's just like, oh, we
• 1:00:48
  already knew about it from when you were 12.
• 1:00:51
  And the dad's just at the debuton pool.
• 1:00:53
  Never brings up anything about their fucking issues.
• 1:00:56
  But also if you're a girl and you're 12 and you've got.
• 1:01:00
  Girls on the posters. That doesn't mean you're gay.
• 1:01:03
  No, the parents were like, we knew as soon as your friends had
• 1:01:07
  boy posters on the wall, we knew that you were gay.
• 1:01:09
  I love Selena Gomez. Yeah, So if you were 12 and you
• 1:01:13
  had a Selena Gomez poster on your wall, your parents aren't
• 1:01:15
  gonna look at that and go look, we're raising a lesbian.
• 1:01:18
  Yeah. So nobody even cared this whole
• 1:01:21
  time and Clay was like my family.
• 1:01:24
  They all knew. They're gonna be so shook.
• 1:01:26
  As when they find out I'm licking pussy and like saying
• 1:01:28
  none of them care. All.
• 1:01:30
  They're. Like go him as long as you're
• 1:01:33
  not pregnant. Actually, that's one of the big
• 1:01:36
  problems with the book. They diminish relationship and
• 1:01:39
  sex somehow. The book was so full of sex, but
• 1:01:42
  everyone diminished sex. The boys just didn't care
• 1:01:45
  because they're like, yeah, she's not getting pregnant.
• 1:01:46
  It's not real. Yeah, same with her mom.
• 1:01:48
  You're not getting pregnant. It's not real.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah. So this is where they kind of
• 1:01:51
  break up. They were just talking and
• 1:01:53
  hanging out normal, having sex, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:01:56
  And then they were talking about prom and.
• 1:01:57
  Then Olivia was pretty much like you can't not come out
• 1:02:00
  immediately. That's why I don't.
• 1:02:03
  Get go past. Because I want you to.
• 1:02:05
  How are you so supportive? And then you just immediately
• 1:02:08
  want her out when she hasn't even come to terms?
• 1:02:11
  Yeah. And she's like, I just decided I
• 1:02:12
  love you. So you have to pretend like
• 1:02:15
  we're going to be together forever.
• 1:02:16
  I mean, what? Yeah, I feel like they thought
• 1:02:18
  that this debut was going to be like the talk of the whole
• 1:02:22
  school and no one gave a fuck. Everyone was like Schmir.
• 1:02:26
  Both of them must be so Delulu. Delulu.
• 1:02:29
  Because they both thought that everyone's going to be like, all
• 1:02:31
  eyes on us. Oh, we're so unique because I'm
• 1:02:33
  wearing a tux. Yeah, bro, you're not even
• 1:02:36
  having sex. There's a couple of virgins out
• 1:02:40
  here. Just a couple.
• 1:02:43
  Of Dikey Virgins P dog. What's going on in the plot
• 1:02:46
  here? Shouldn't someone be a bit more
• 1:02:47
  sugar than your distant grandma's rage in the corner?
• 1:02:50
  Oh my God, nobody cares. And Grandma's only mad because
• 1:02:53
  she had to keep her shit a secret.
• 1:02:56
  Grandma's like I wanted to pave the streets in Rainbow.
• 1:03:00
  It was the biggest let down. Of any book we've read recently
• 1:03:04
  and it just never ended because they broke up for no reason.
• 1:03:07
  I think internally they were always sliding down walls,
• 1:03:11
  crying, and nobody else around cared.
• 1:03:13
  No, I'm like Megan was out here. Like here we go again.
• 1:03:18
  Megan. Got dragged into this For what?
• 1:03:20
  Like why did they pay her? The poor girl got fucking
• 1:03:24
  rubbish dumped on her for no fucking reason.
• 1:03:27
  But didn't the boys? Grab her.
• 1:03:30
  And, like, set her up to think that Olivia wanted to hook up
• 1:03:33
  with her. I'm not even sure.
• 1:03:35
  Because they. Remember.
• 1:03:36
  How they taped like after the debutante ball, That's when they
• 1:03:39
  kidno, it was just a random girl, but they said it was
• 1:03:43
  Megan. Her name was Megan no wasn't.
• 1:03:46
  She didn't know who she was. But it she also happened to have
• 1:03:49
  the name Megan. Oh, really?
• 1:03:50
  Yeah, yeah. Why are they picking all the
• 1:03:53
  name? Hang on, please.
• 1:03:54
  Look it up. I'm so confused.
• 1:03:56
  That whole chapter was a blur, I'm not going to lie.
• 1:03:59
  Morgan. Oh, no wonder.
• 1:04:02
  So close. Fuck, because Morgan and Megan,
• 1:04:05
  she's back. She's very.
• 1:04:07
  She's on Red Wonder. No.
• 1:04:09
  It's like this poor girl keeps getting so screwed over because
• 1:04:13
  they knew. I thought that they did that on
• 1:04:15
  purpose because they knew that Megan liked Olivia.
• 1:04:17
  Yeah, and they set her up being like, oh, Olivia wants to hook
• 1:04:20
  up again or whatever. No, they I think they're paying
• 1:04:23
  this girl to have sex with Olivia.
• 1:04:25
  And because she thought she was willing, and then she got kicked
• 1:04:28
  in the gut by Olivia. And what kind of fucking job
• 1:04:32
  would that be? If you get message like, oh,
• 1:04:35
  hey, want you to hook up with this, I guess this other sex
• 1:04:37
  worker, I could just be a sex worker, I suppose.
• 1:04:40
  Probably one on a higher payroll.
• 1:04:42
  I don't think she deserved to get kicked in the gut, though,
• 1:04:45
  because she. Was paid to be there, so she
• 1:04:48
  probably just assumed this other girl was paid to be there.
• 1:04:50
  Exactly the. Bit that took.
• 1:04:53
  Me out, Right, So we got a bit of head vessels, so they're
• 1:04:56
  leaving the ball. They're trying to fucking rip
• 1:04:58
  each other's clothes off because they're always so fucking horny,
• 1:05:01
  right? Yeah, so Olivia's got no pants
• 1:05:03
  on. She's got her undies and a
• 1:05:05
  corset, you know, trying to hook into each other.
• 1:05:08
  How did the driver? Just not fucking swerve around
• 1:05:10
  these boys on the road. Just be like, oh detour, Four
• 1:05:14
  guys on the street are going to approach your car and as a
• 1:05:17
  driver, you're just. Going to let them open the.
• 1:05:19
  Keep their doors locked. That's what I mean.
• 1:05:21
  Like you're just. Going to let Also, I want to
• 1:05:24
  know how they thought they were getting out of the limo naked.
• 1:05:27
  Yeah, that was stripping. And they were the horniest
• 1:05:30
  teenage girls I've ever read about.
• 1:05:31
  Yeah, they just rushed the car. They pull Olivia out.
• 1:05:35
  Yeah. And then Clay goes.
• 1:05:37
  Nah, I'm not going. To call the police because
• 1:05:40
  police are hopeless. I'm just going to call her
• 1:05:43
  brothers. Yup.
• 1:05:44
  And then she looks up the lawn mowing company because they
• 1:05:47
  don't give a fuck about her. You gotta just call Kristen.
• 1:05:51
  She was being called the police as well.
• 1:05:53
  Yeah, it's kind of their job, yeah.
• 1:05:56
  And then Olivia's like. Yeah, just.
• 1:05:58
  Fuck me then, Yeah, to. The boys like, that's going to
• 1:06:01
  work. Like, it's kind of dear.
• 1:06:03
  Yeah, it worked. But I think it was because she
• 1:06:05
  seemed so deranged and they were probably like here for the her
• 1:06:09
  not being into it. And she's like, this is nothing.
• 1:06:11
  My brothers do this to me every day pretty much, yeah.
• 1:06:13
  And. I was like.
• 1:06:14
  Fucking they would terrorize the shit out of me.
• 1:06:17
  Five of you at home anyway. They're all trying to write me.
• 1:06:20
  No, this is. How she met, that's.
• 1:06:22
  What it sounds? Like though she meant.
• 1:06:25
  Because they at this point, they were just terrorizing Emily,
• 1:06:27
  slapping her. Emily, this is P Dog.
• 1:06:30
  True. Penelope loves the good in
• 1:06:31
  sexual relation. I think she's like gaslighting
• 1:06:38
  her readers into slowly getting to the book she wants to write.
• 1:06:41
  Oh. My God, sorry.
• 1:06:44
  That's so ominous. Don't do that.
• 1:06:47
  I'm scared. And then fucking Clay comes in
• 1:06:50
  clutch, cutting people's faces and shit.
• 1:06:52
  But it's my nose. Like Clay is the badass now.
• 1:06:56
  Like I'm just like, stop. Yeah, literally.
• 1:07:00
  And she goes. If anyone asks, tell them you
• 1:07:02
  cut yourself during shaving. And just like.
• 1:07:04
  Cutting all over his face like. What?
• 1:07:08
  Somehow he's a fucking. Temple to like she.
• 1:07:11
  His whole face is like flapping in the bruise and he's like,
• 1:07:13
  it's OK, Mom, I just. I didn't while I was shaving.
• 1:07:18
  It's like. Full emergency room.
• 1:07:19
  Fucking put my face back on. They're like, how the fuck did
• 1:07:22
  this happen? I'm just not a hair insight.
• 1:07:25
  It's like I'm just. Like, you know his hair all over
• 1:07:28
  the temple that they're fucking trying to so bad he's never even
• 1:07:32
  grown like a beard. Yeah, it was so bad.
• 1:07:35
  I was disturbed by then. I was like Clay.
• 1:07:38
  Yeah, I was here for it. I'm like finally some substance.
• 1:07:43
  But like, what is this book trying to be?
• 1:07:46
  Lisa. Worked us into it.
• 1:07:48
  Because you know, sometimes you read the mafia book and out of
• 1:07:51
  nowhere the quiet, shy girls like standing people like front
• 1:07:54
  and. Centre and.
• 1:07:55
  They're like the equivalent of that after a lot of finger
• 1:07:57
  blasting and doll into dildos. I'm just like Okie.
• 1:08:02
  This was when they tried to do Kids Mafia, the Whiplash.
• 1:08:05
  From the scissoring to the slicing, to not even sex to the
• 1:08:09
  cunning people's faces. I feel like there.
• 1:08:12
  Should be a genre in these kind of books where they try and
• 1:08:14
  write teenagers to be in Teen Mafia and it should be called
• 1:08:17
  Kids Bop Mafia. Because that's what it ends up
• 1:08:21
  being. And it's always they're filming
• 1:08:23
  sex and they're posting it. There's never police.
• 1:08:27
  When are they gonna get into real adult trouble?
• 1:08:30
  The best part about this is knowing that everyone listening
• 1:08:32
  to the podcast right now is probably like Carla needs to
• 1:08:34
  read Devil Nights Devil Night because they're probably send
• 1:08:38
  her into a fucking. I.
• 1:08:41
  Feel like you just grabbed a whole other series.
• 1:08:44
  Oh really? Yeah.
• 1:08:44
  But like, where are the parents? They just throw these.
• 1:08:47
  Blues, they're. Just around.
• 1:08:49
  They've conveniently got all of their own problems to deal with.
• 1:08:52
  They're just never. My parents are always fucking
• 1:08:55
  home. They never.
• 1:08:56
  That's what I mean. Like in real life, you're 1617.
• 1:08:59
  Your parents are not only home, They're like at the edge of your
• 1:09:02
  bedroom door being like, what are you doing?
• 1:09:04
  They're like, I'll take the fucking door down.
• 1:09:07
  The way that you can let me out. Chat snaps or what?
• 1:09:14
  They're like. Don't the tic.
• 1:09:18
  To like. You better not be downloading
• 1:09:20
  strangers on there. Like that's literally.
• 1:09:23
  What it is they're like looking at your life 360 and you're in
• 1:09:27
  the room. Next door, you're just like.
• 1:09:31
  Let me live. That's.
• 1:09:34
  What it's really like to be 17, we need a book like that.
• 1:09:37
  Where the parents just breathing.
• 1:09:39
  Down their neck, the entire book.
• 1:09:42
  And instead of accepting their gayness, they're just like.
• 1:09:45
  That sort of thing. That's not real.
• 1:09:48
  That's not real. What am I?
• 1:09:50
  Supposed to just there's no penetration.
• 1:09:53
  Look, legitimately that I say this with my full chest.
• 1:09:57
  There are people, adults out there that don't think that.
• 1:10:01
  Sex is sex. If there's no penetration, there
• 1:10:04
  are full ask. People that think that, yeah,
• 1:10:06
  that's that's full ask. People believe a lot of things.
• 1:10:12
  Literally. No.
• 1:10:15
  Crazy. I could list it on my hand of
• 1:10:17
  what they believe in it all. It all coincides and goes hand
• 1:10:20
  in hand together, but even the driver himself wanted to call
• 1:10:25
  the police and she's just like, Nah, he's probably like what?
• 1:10:28
  Do you mean? Bitch.
• 1:10:29
  He's like, I'm getting hijacked too, you bitch.
• 1:10:32
  He's like, am I responsible for this kidnapping?
• 1:10:35
  Literally though, wouldn't you? As the driver because you're an
• 1:10:39
  adult, be really worried. The parent can practically like
• 1:10:42
  sue you. Oh my God, yes.
• 1:10:43
  Something happened to this kid because you didn't call the
• 1:10:45
  emergency service. Yes.
• 1:10:47
  Yeah. Olivia gets out of that
• 1:10:49
  situation, obviously. Clay is just cutting people's
• 1:10:52
  faces. And then that's just the fucking
• 1:10:54
  end Dillon was like. Thank fuck for.
• 1:10:57
  That after all of that, Callum's just sitting at Lounge.
• 1:11:00
  She's like, fuck yeah, loving the show, loving the show, babe,
• 1:11:03
  loving you. Cutting up my mate.
• 1:11:05
  Yeah. For me doing the same thing.
• 1:11:06
  He loves it. And then Dallas is like punching
• 1:11:10
  him and shit. And then Dallas takes him into
• 1:11:13
  another room and fights him, while the rest just wait around
• 1:11:16
  and like. Fights.
• 1:11:18
  That's where I got OK. I thought it was very convenient
• 1:11:21
  that they had a fight scene, right, that we didn't get to
• 1:11:25
  read or see. And then the next page it was
• 1:11:28
  like, Oh yeah, Dallas and Callum had a thing last summer.
• 1:11:31
  I'm like, is there more tension? A lot of this stuff we didn't
• 1:11:35
  need to know. Why?
• 1:11:36
  Is it like OK? Why is the go to problem for the
• 1:11:39
  men in the book? To be sexual assault, as in the
• 1:11:42
  go to thing that they want to do?
• 1:11:44
  Yeah, by their motivation, Yeah. They're like, I'm going to ruin
• 1:11:46
  this girl's life. Sexual assault.
• 1:11:49
  Couldn't it just be like, I'm going to ruin this girl's life
• 1:11:52
  by burning a house down? I don't know.
• 1:11:55
  Anything else? Well, like.
• 1:11:56
  Which one's better? Which one?
• 1:11:59
  I'm violating her. Yeah.
• 1:12:00
  Why? Why is it violating?
• 1:12:01
  Why does it have to be that violation?
• 1:12:03
  Why couldn't it be like I'm going to get it kicked out of
• 1:12:05
  the theater and kicked out of Dartmouth?
• 1:12:08
  That would make more sense. Clay's the actual bad guy at the
• 1:12:11
  start. Yeah, she's a terrible person
• 1:12:14
  and the only reason why she had character development is cuz
• 1:12:17
  she's allowed to be gay. Yeah, but no one else is.
• 1:12:20
  Because if she was. Straight throughout this whole
• 1:12:22
  thing. Do you think she's gonna let up
• 1:12:24
  on bullying Olivia? The only reason she did a turn
• 1:12:27
  around is cuz she's like. Now I know what it's like that
• 1:12:29
  everyone treats me like shit because I'm gay.
• 1:12:31
  Because my grandma might disown me.
• 1:12:33
  And that's the only reason she started being nice to Olivia and
• 1:12:36
  feeling bad. Yeah, because if she didn't turn
• 1:12:37
  gay that whole time, she would just being fucking Callum.
• 1:12:41
  And still being a cunt, Yeah, it's not realistic that they
• 1:12:44
  were together four years later. If Olivia went to uni, there's
• 1:12:47
  no way they would have been able to maintain that kind of
• 1:12:50
  relationship because they needed sex and they never had a
• 1:12:52
  conversation in the entire book. And then just calling each
• 1:12:55
  other, being like, I love you, I love you, That wouldn't be
• 1:12:57
  enough. One of them would have cheated
• 1:12:59
  instantaneously. Like straight away.
• 1:13:01
  Yeah, because it's so insecure and they would have thought each
• 1:13:04
  other were cheating. But I'm just shocked.
• 1:13:06
  Shook us. Shocked.
• 1:13:08
  That they'd still be together, Yeah.
• 1:13:10
  She was the person who took your virginity, or does she still
• 1:13:15
  have it? Oh yes, later.
• 1:13:19
  They never know. They never decide.
• 1:13:21
  It was Olivia that proposed. Hey, no, it was Clay.
• 1:13:26
  OK. But Olivia was going.
• 1:13:29
  Two as well. But.
• 1:13:31
  Who puts the ring on before you even get an answer?
• 1:13:34
  Possessive bitches. It's like slipped the ring on
• 1:13:36
  before anything Penelope Douglas does.
• 1:13:39
  Well, it's possessive. Geez.
• 1:13:42
  And it's funny because they had bought the lighthouse together
• 1:13:45
  and they're gonna renovate it and live in it, right?
• 1:13:47
  As a house? Yeah.
• 1:13:49
  It's boring at this point. It was always like Clay was
• 1:13:51
  trying to make it scandalous, like I have to talk to Megan
• 1:13:54
  about for. Yeah.
• 1:13:55
  It's four years, lady. Everyone's accepted it.
• 1:13:58
  Yeah, you're living together in a fucking lighthouse.
• 1:14:00
  Nobody cares at this point. Megan's like, just fucking leave
• 1:14:03
  me alone. He's.
• 1:14:05
  Getting. Out of my house.
• 1:14:06
  Shit. He's like, I don't even care.
• 1:14:08
  He's like, I just wanted to do me, but I've been stuck with
• 1:14:11
  these fucking kids. So literally.
• 1:14:14
  I just took. Like 20 years and this poor man
• 1:14:17
  hasn't even had a fucking break. So what are we writing this out
• 1:14:21
  of? I don't know.
• 1:14:24
  I don't know. Detachable shower heads.
• 1:14:28
  Just detachable showers. That's all I can.
• 1:14:30
  Think of right now. I don't know.
• 1:14:32
  It just wasn't for me. Maybe I'm not a bully romancer.
• 1:14:35
  I'm giving it two detachable shower heads out of five and I
• 1:14:38
  feel like that's been generous. Yeah, two same.
• 1:14:40
  I need more plot. Like, what is going on?
• 1:14:43
  It was just the same plot. Over and over again.
• 1:14:46
  Like it would restart. You'd get 200 pages of loop.
• 1:14:49
  It was a loop though, because you'd get like them bullying
• 1:14:52
  each other. They're finally getting together
• 1:14:54
  and then it'd be like pause, start again.
• 1:14:56
  It was just fucking Groundhog Day over and over and changing.
• 1:14:59
  Like, the timelines were very, yeah.
• 1:15:03
  Like, I just felt like all this happened in a week.
• 1:15:04
  But all this happened in 10 years at the same time, in terms
• 1:15:08
  of it could have been entertaining, yeah.
• 1:15:12
  If it was shorter, cuz I did get to a point where I'm like, I'm
• 1:15:15
  just rereading, I'm just, we're just rereading the same thing,
• 1:15:19
  yeah, and there is only so many times you can be finger blasted.
• 1:15:22
  Yeah, in one book. Is that it?
• 1:15:27
  Is that it? Yeah.
• 1:15:29
  Oh my God. So that's it?
• 1:15:31
  What a whirlwind. How's the turntables, hey?
• 1:15:34
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