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JJ v. Sal Stewart ROY Race, 3B Questions, Quinn Mathews Expectations · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Jim Hayes, along with Lance Lynn Kyle Gibson, is talking
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: to his title guy. Now, look he's building a house.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: I get it. You gotta take time with the title guy. Look,
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: I want to make fun of him because he said,
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: I'm still with the title guy. Have you ever taken
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: time with your title guy? Lancem just curious. Uh yeah,
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: drinking beers. That's about it. We had a title guy,
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: I would say to my wife, you want the gray
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: or the white? Okay, now we'll move on to the
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: next thing. But let's talk a little Cardinal baseball. Right now,
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: Cardinals playing the fifth game against the Reds in Cincinnati.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: They're two over five hundred. They're three games back on
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: the wild card. I wanted to get two things from
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  Speaker 1: lance Lynn to start, because I'm coming up with topics
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: that I think are interesting. Two things about this ball
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: club that maybe you weren't sold on in the beginning.
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: Could be a player, it could be an aspect of
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: the team that now you're a believer. So I'm going
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: to give you a second to think about it. Because
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: even though I put it out in a group text,
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: sometimes we don't look at those things. But again it's
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: you're looking at some of the team could be a player,
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  Speaker 1: could be an aspect of the team, a part of
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  Speaker 1: the ball club that you were like, and now you're
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: a believer. What do you got?
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  Speaker 2: So I wouldn't say it wasn't a believer, but I
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: will say that it's been a pleasantly surprised on how
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: well the starting pitching is held up throughout the year,
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  Speaker 2: if that makes sense. I think as a group, all
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  Speaker 2: of them have done what we hope they would do.
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  Speaker 2: So that makes you a believer. I think in the
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: in the grand scheme of things, you didn't know what
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: this group was going to be. You saw some upside,
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: you saw potential, you saw some pitchability. Now they're able
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: to do it and they're doing it for the long haul.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: I mean you look at you know, Polonte last year
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  Speaker 2: had his ups and downs. McGreevy was in tripa a
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  Speaker 2: most of the year. Ley was in the bullpen, so
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  Speaker 2: I think and even when they had what's the name
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  Speaker 2: before they trade him, you didn't know what he was
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  Speaker 2: going to be because he had a great year before
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  Speaker 2: that in Dustin May. But you know he wasn't healthy
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So they've all stayed healthy, and
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: they've all made their starts, and they're putting together a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good season. Libby is the one that is there
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: is a little bit higher than you wanted to but
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  Speaker 2: I would say majority of his starts have been pretty good,
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  Speaker 2: as Kyle's mentioned over some podcasts. So all in all,
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  Speaker 2: that's been the pleasant surprise. And I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: a surprise, but I also think it is because you
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  Speaker 2: didn't expect them to stay healthy and do this all
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  Speaker 2: season like they have.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, that's one I'm gonna that's what I had too,
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's smart because he had so many
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  Speaker 1: guys that hadn't put together a full season of starting
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: in the major leagues, and for like a guy like
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: Laya who's actually getting better, we're talking tour runs or
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  Speaker 1: less in ten straight games. You couldn't have seen that coming,
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  Speaker 1: even if you believed in Leahy and what happens with
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  Speaker 1: every major league starting rotation, injuries, we haven't seen that.
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  Speaker 1: Kudos to Dusty and Ali for spacing these guys out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm gonna give you one other guy.
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  Speaker 1: This is my second maybe you have a second. When
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  Speaker 1: we first saw Guskaloom come up, I thought, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I heard this guy's got a good change up. Let's
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: see what he's got. He got hammered. And the more
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: you see him, the more you believe. Because I think
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  Speaker 1: he had a problem with how to set up the
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  Speaker 1: change up, how to set up the sweeper. I think
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: you guys call it pitch sequencing. But he's certainly been
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  Speaker 1: really really good of late. And I'm looking at this
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  Speaker 1: guy and I go, kudos to them for seeing that
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  Speaker 1: they had something there. What are your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think with anybody, you up and you got
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  Speaker 2: to see how your stuff works. You got to get
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  Speaker 2: some confidence right when you kind of don't have a
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  Speaker 2: game plan or the maybe the catchers are trying to
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  Speaker 2: learn how you tick, what makes you comfortable, and then
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  Speaker 2: at bat right he's lefties and stuff like that. It
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: takes a minute. So I think you're seeing a guy
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  Speaker 2: that has the ability to get out at a high level,
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  Speaker 2: and he's starting to get comfortable and he's starting to
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  Speaker 2: realize when to use what and how to use it,
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  Speaker 2: and the catchers are on the same page, and even
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  Speaker 2: the even the coaching staff. It probably has a nice
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  Speaker 2: breakdown for the catchers as they go. So relievers when
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: they first come up and stuff, it's like, hey, I
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  Speaker 2: can do this in Triple A, but how can I
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  Speaker 2: do in the big leagues. Sometimes you just got to
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  Speaker 2: trust your best stuff and go with it and then
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  Speaker 2: mix and match when you need to and then go
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  Speaker 2: from there. So I think all in all relievers takes
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  Speaker 2: a minute unless they just have absolute devastating fastball and
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  Speaker 2: breaking ball combo or something like that that you can
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  Speaker 2: just outpower people change ups. Usually those guys usually take
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  Speaker 2: a minute to get a feel no one to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Have the catcher's trust that this guy can throw anything
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  Speaker 2: at any time that he wants to, and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: So I see where you're going with this one, and
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  Speaker 2: I like it. He's got this stuff to get outs
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  Speaker 2: and he's getting comfortable and they're putting them in situations
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  Speaker 2: to succeed, and that's what it's all about.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about confidence too, like Rightley O'Brien when he's
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  Speaker 1: healthy and he's had some injuries. Right there was a
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  Speaker 1: guy who I think didn't really trust his stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: the Cardinals nurtured him and helped him work through the
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  Speaker 1: rough spots, and now when he goes out there, you're like, Okay, that'
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  Speaker 1: save is going right in the bank because he looks
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  Speaker 1: like a different guy in terms of body language and confidence.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it comes with success, right, Confidence in body
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  Speaker 2: language go hand in hand. When you have success, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to get both of those. He knows that his
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  Speaker 2: stuff's good, and he knows that he can throw anything
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  Speaker 2: he wants at any time, and he's not scared of
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  Speaker 2: the strike zone. So I think that's the main thing
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  Speaker 2: with relievers. And I think with Riley or On when
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  Speaker 2: I was with him, when we got him, when he
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  Speaker 2: when they rule five to you mind, know if he's
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  Speaker 2: a real five. They just got him in a minor
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  Speaker 2: league trade. It's almost he was given away. So it's
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  Speaker 2: a good job by the front office to get him,
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  Speaker 2: and then they realize, hey, we just need to teach
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  Speaker 2: this guy to throw strikes.
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  Speaker 1: Be okay with.
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  Speaker 2: Throwing the ball on the strike zone. I think at
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  Speaker 2: times he was trying to overdo things, make his stuff
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  Speaker 2: nastier than it need to be, because it's nasty on
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  Speaker 2: its own. And I think that's the main thing with
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  Speaker 2: most pitchers is trust your stuff. Go get outs and
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  Speaker 2: do your things. So he's learned to do that, and
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  Speaker 2: they've been able to give him that time over the
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  Speaker 2: last you know, year and a half two years to
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  Speaker 2: get healthy and use his stuff the way he's capable of.
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  Speaker 2: And you're seeing that in this. You know, he's striking
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  Speaker 2: out over you know, nine per nine, and you know
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  Speaker 2: walks are he's keeping them low enough to where they're
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  Speaker 2: not hurting. And so I think he's in a good spot,
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  Speaker 2: especially with the stuff he has.
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  Speaker 1: So last night Leby was pitching pitch well gave up
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  Speaker 1: a three run homer to sell Stuart. Now, Stuart, as
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: you know, is one of the guys that could win
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: Nationale Rookie of the Year. JJ weatherhold in Saint Louis,
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: we think this guy deserves a look. The Reds broadcasters
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  Speaker 1: are pretty harsh in their assessment of the two, saying
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  Speaker 1: that Stuart should get it. But if you look at
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  Speaker 1: Stewart's numbers, right, I mean, give this guy his dude,
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven homers, ninety four ribbies, eight ten ops. Right,
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  Speaker 1: if you're looking, if you're looking at Rookie of the
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  Speaker 1: Year and you're being fair, JJ does a lot of
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  Speaker 1: other things. Certainly defensively, it's night and day. JJ weatherhold
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  Speaker 1: has that. But when you look at this race, if
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: you are being honest, and you're always honest, maybe too
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  Speaker 1: much lance, who do you think has the edge right now?
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  Speaker 2: I think when you look at thirty home runs in
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  Speaker 2: one hundred RBIs as a rookie, that's gonna be hard
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  Speaker 2: to beat. Now, if JJ gets himself in a category
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  Speaker 2: where we can get a gold glove and see what
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  Speaker 2: the last month looks like offensive, you know, make make
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: up some ground and certain things. Second base with a
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  Speaker 2: gold glove and let's say a good home run total,
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  Speaker 2: you know he's not gonna have the RBIs because he's
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: leading off right, so you can't hold him. Let's say
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  Speaker 2: if he gets to two fifty with twenty, I mean
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to get to He's gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: get over twenty for sure, So I don't like his chances.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be honest, because of thirty and one hundred is good.
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  Speaker 2: There really is no other way to say that. But
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  Speaker 2: if JJ gets himself a gold glove or gets in
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  Speaker 2: that category, which it's really hard to win a gold
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  Speaker 2: glove your first year, that make you earn it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. So if you were to win a Gold
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  Speaker 2: Glove and hit twenty five home runs, I would say
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  Speaker 2: he would win it. But I don't think he's going
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  Speaker 2: to do either. But he's had a really good first
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  Speaker 2: year and he can't you know, he can't be mad
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  Speaker 2: in lops is. You know, you'd like to be over
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: eight hundred and all that. So he's kind of lacking
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  Speaker 2: in every category that he needs to to catch to
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  Speaker 2: catch him. But he's had a really good for yere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, another year, he'd probably be definitely nationally Rookie of
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  Speaker 1: the Year. And you can't take.
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  Speaker 2: The defense Cincinnati Ballmart helps the home run total, I
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: will tell you.
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  Speaker 1: That right, no question, JJ has more runs. But as
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: the broadcasters for the Reds put it, we're terrible. How
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: bad would we be without Al Stewart in the lone.
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  Speaker 2: We're not talking about MVP. We're not talking about MVP race.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like MVPs. What matters how terrible will
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: we be or how good will we be if if
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: we didn't have this guy. So you'd be really terrible
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: if you didn't have a Rookie of the Year. Not
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: and he's not even in the MVP race. So that's
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: tough for them.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question about it. All right, we're gonna
• 9:41
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• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Cardinal territory. So the Cardinals as
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: they play this out, still have a decent shot at
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: getting that third wild card, but they're still trying to
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: answer some questions, and one of the questions is who's
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: a third Blaze Jordan to me, has shown really well
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: in his limited time at third base. He had a
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: base running issue because he's not that fast when they
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: tried to have him score, and he's had some fielding
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  Speaker 1: issues not bad. I think he's solid at third base,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's in the running for
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  Speaker 1: Gold Glove. What impresses me about Blaze He hasn't tapped
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  Speaker 1: in to his power yet, but he gives you a
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  Speaker 1: good ad pat and he uses the whole field. Like
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: to me, he doesn't look like a guy who's swinging
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: for the fences every time, but I know based on
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: his minor league stats. The power is there, he just
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: hasn't tapped in. So when I look at Blaze Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: I think quite possibly he could be the guy at
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: third base. Where are you on Blaze?
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: So my question to you, if you think he's quite pussy,
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: is he Jed Jerco ish?
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  Speaker 1: No, I think he's I think he's more. Look, I
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: love Jed Jerco, but Jed Jerko hit twenty homers and
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: give you forty RBIs maybe sometimes thirty five, said the
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  Speaker 1: king of the solo home run in the eighth inning. Eight. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I love it, and I'll and i'll great tap
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  Speaker 1: great clubhouse, love, love love. I think Blaize Jordan uses
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  Speaker 1: a whole field on more than than Jed ever did.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the power isn't going to be like
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  Speaker 1: more all or nothing like it was with Jed. And
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  Speaker 1: he impresses me with the way he can handle batting
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  Speaker 1: with two strikes. Look, it's his first taste in the
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: big leagues, right, So I get it there's gonna be
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: an adjustment period. But when I look at him, I
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: think there's a guy who will be a major league hitter,
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  Speaker 1: and not just because he has some thump because we
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  Speaker 1: haven't even seen that yet.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so you answer my question, if you think he
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  Speaker 2: can be better than Jed Jerko, then yes, he can
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  Speaker 2: be an everyday third basement for you. And that's there's
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  Speaker 2: really no other way to say it. The power is
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  Speaker 2: going to come for guys as they get there and
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  Speaker 2: get at bats and get some stuff on pitchers and
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  Speaker 2: get an idea of when to go for it and
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: when not right now, it's like, hey, he's trying to
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  Speaker 2: make sure he does his thing and all that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he's I think he's serviceable at third Defensively, I
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  Speaker 2: think he's going to add more to the play as
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  Speaker 2: he goes here. So yes, he could be the answer
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  Speaker 2: at third base, especially if if we can get him
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  Speaker 2: to hit two fifty with the ability to maybe maybe
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  Speaker 2: hit more in the twenty home run range, then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: then we've got something that. You know, obviously numbers aren't
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  Speaker 2: as high as you would like a third baseman to
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  Speaker 2: be him right now, but he's also you know, look
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  Speaker 2: where he's adding is at bats and stuff. So far,
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  Speaker 2: he's you know, he's like a one hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 2: six at bats so far in the big league. So
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  Speaker 2: I think you got a let him play. I like
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: I said, like I said with the Jed Erco, Jed
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  Speaker 2: Jerco is a was a good major league player? Could
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: he you know, could we have you know, could he
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  Speaker 2: could Jordan be better him?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: I think so. So that gives him that I think
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  Speaker 2: he could be the answer. So that was why I
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: asked the Jed Jerco question, because Jed was a twenty
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  Speaker 2: home run plus guy, you know, and he played serviceable
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  Speaker 2: infield when he had to play the infield. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it's the same thing with Blaze, with maybe even
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  Speaker 2: more upside.
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  Speaker 1: And Jed was fun in the clubhouse. Blaze seems like
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  Speaker 1: a nice guy, but Jed was more of a character.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about guys who's come the character. The character
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  Speaker 1: comes more confidence, you get more home runs, you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know if anyone like Jed Jerko was
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: a unique dude, right. I love that about him. He
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  Speaker 1: was like you, He'd challenge it, he'd come after you
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  Speaker 1: and everything like that. I think Blaze might be more polite,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe we can bring that out of him. Here's hoping,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: because the more guys, to me want to have a
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: back and forth, the better it is for the media
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: because it's more fun. I want to ask you about
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Quinn Matthews. Two starts, nine innings, ten k's six walks,
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  Speaker 1: three ear in runs, So if you take that as
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: one start, you're in right. The walks weren't pro problem.
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  Speaker 1: But I also think too, based on the fact we're
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  Speaker 1: talking two major league starts. You're brought up, you start
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, a lot of stuff on his shoulders.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's shown, well, where are you with Quinn? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: No, he's shown some promise, right, there's some The strikeouts
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  Speaker 2: are there. He's not giving up a whole lot of hits.
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  Speaker 2: He's walking too many guys, which I think comes with
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  Speaker 2: what we expect from him with his minor league numbers.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to walk probably to a game, give or take.
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  Speaker 2: So if he can make sure that those two walks
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  Speaker 2: a game come when he's not giving up any hits
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  Speaker 2: and he's got the ability to strike someone out, then
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  Speaker 2: so be it. I think the stuff plays if we
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: can hone it in not walk more than two in
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  Speaker 2: a game. He's got the ability to strike enough people
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  Speaker 2: out to get himself out of trouble. So yes, I
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  Speaker 2: think there is some upside there. Moving forward. Now, the
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: question is is where can we get him enough starts
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  Speaker 2: down the stretch here to make it worth his while
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  Speaker 2: in their while to take that next step going into
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: next year. He's got to get starts on a routine
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: with the pitching coach. They're throwing bullpens so they can
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: actually work on the things they need to do at
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: the big league level to be ready to make big
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: league starts. I think that's the next step for him,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what I've been kind of advocating. With the
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: six man rotation in September, he has to make a
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: start every five or six days, just like the rest
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: of them in the rotation, so they can all finish strong,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: finish healthy, but also get that taste of what a
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: full season looks like. But for him, he's going to
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: be with Dusty, He's going to be with the pitching
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: coaches in the big leagues to actually get better at
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: the end here because he's done what he needs to
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: do in the minor leagues, come to the big leagues,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: know what a five day, six day rotation looks like
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: and what you can be and then hopefully the walks
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: go down because he's not It's not fast for him
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: because he's been there all week, been talking, been going
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: over game plans, been watching these teams that he's facing
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: instead of just showing up and pitch that day. So
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: that's what I think is going to be the best
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: for him going forward, is Hey, we need five or
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: six starts in a row where you're here, you're doing
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the things, You're a big league here, You're not on
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  Speaker 2: a shuttle.
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  Speaker 1: I think this this kid too. He's got moxie, and
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: he's already felt the pressure, like everyone's already wanted to
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: see him, every Cardinal fan.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: You never feel the pressure, Jim, until you're until you're
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: trying to win a division and trying to make a
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: playoff push. So he hasn't felt any pressure. He showed
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: up for a team that was that was rebuilding. They're
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: retooling this year. That's what you show up. So no
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: one's felt the pressure yet, none of them technically.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: But there you know. But no, that's a fair point.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: You got to go through the gauntlet before you're a
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: season starting pitcher in Major League base.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: We got the first two starts out of the way.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Now let's see what he can do for four or
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: five six starts in a row where they know he's coming,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: and he knows they're coming, and would see who's ready
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: for who, and who can make the adjustments fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: We talk a lot about Major League Baseball, as we should.
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  Speaker 1: It is cardinal territory. But a lot of folks watching,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of dads, a lot of moms have kids
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: playing youth baseball, maybe youth softball, and lets you were
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: a major league player who had a lot of fire
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: in the belly, but you're also a parent, tell me
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  Speaker 1: something that can help parents of youngsters be better youth baseball,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: softball sports parents.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I always went by. The thing is let
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: them be themselves, let them learn to play the game.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: And if you are coaching them from the stands and
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: their coaches coaching them from the dugout, there's a lot
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: of voices coming into their head at one time where
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: they could get a little scrambled and not concentrate on
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. As a youth person or a youth player.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: We're about having fun, we're about learning the game, and
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: we're learning to compete. And then nothing really matters until
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: you get into high school when it comes to winning
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: state championships and things of that nature. So learn the game,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: have fun with it, learn how to compete, so it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: actually time to compete, you're ready, and you actually enjoy
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: playing the game. Because the more you make it too much,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: or the more you make it more than it is
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: when they're younger, the less they're going to want to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: do it, and the less they're going to enjoy it
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: later in life. So that's my little tidbit.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen to your coaches. I think that's fair too.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: But as someone with a professional background with your kids,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: do you feel that sometimes your knowledge might be maybe
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: more steeped in the experience than say the youth coaches
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: or do you just step aside let coaches have act it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: You know, I teach them what I think they need
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: to be taught at home. They go whatever their coaches
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: plays or whatever it might be, or what they're going
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: to do on their team. I think my issue right
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: now is if when I help out at coach and
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I got a parent yell out of the stands opposite
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: or what I tell them to do, That's where I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: get my my uh. I wouldn't say my feelings are.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: That's where I get my I get kind of wowed
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: at somebody where you know it's like, okay, you do
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: you then I guess. So my goal is to let
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: my kids have fun with if I'm not helping out,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: and if I am helping out, I try to teach
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: them the game, and I try to teach them to
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: have fun and do things the right way, and you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: go from there. So it's hard to tell me what
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: that is.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: You tell me, please tell me what someone was yelling.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: You were saying do this, and apparently please tell me
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: what that was.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Well, it's like, hey, you know, two outs, you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: plays at this and then someone's like, hey, there's runners
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: on first and third. Get the out at third or
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: first and second, get the out at third. I go again,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: there are two outs, easiest base, but most likely the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: plays at first. You're not trying to get the lead
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: runner at third with two outs, So you know, I
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: shot to shut your mouth stare to the stands, but
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I try to keep my mouth shut.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, Lance Lendon, the Parent of Youth Sports, I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: like that. All right, that's gonna do it for this
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: edition of Cardinal Tear It Tour We'll see you next
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: time for the next episode. Hopefully that one won't suck.