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Ep. 5: Fred Taylor on the hard work behind the scenes of a HOF career | Boselli: A Podcast Series · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame, will would truly be the high
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Speaker 1: speed of little arner I can have as a as
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Speaker 1: a football player. Welcome to a celebration of Jacksonville Jaguars
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Speaker 1: left tackle Tony Baselli's induction in the National Football League
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fames. What makes it even more special for
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Speaker 1: me is I want to represent this organization and this
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Speaker 1: fan base because I know it's important to them as well.
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Speaker 1: For them to care that much means a tongue to me.
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Speaker 1: Join Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Hosier as he
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Speaker 1: sits down with the people who know Tony both professionally
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Speaker 1: and personally. Pride of the Jaguars, Fred Taylor, I have
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Speaker 1: confidence that Fred Taylor will be the next Jaguar in
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I know it's an important topic.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that later. But Fred, first of all,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars fans love here in front of me. I can't
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Speaker 1: thank you enough for doing this. Welcome, Hey, I appreciate you. Man.
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Speaker 1: You know I'll feel about Jaguar na nation. Man. Uh.
1:05
Speaker 1: It's always good to get back and do these interviews.
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Speaker 1: That know. Uh. Sometimes it seems that I'm removed from
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Speaker 1: the community, but I'm that's far far fetched. I'm always
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Speaker 1: in the commuting some way shape for capacity, and I'm
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Speaker 1: always in forever a Jaguar, So uh, I appreciate this opportunity. Fred,
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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated. Uh. I'm before this conversation because I was
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Speaker 1: around you and Tony when you played. Uh. But first
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Speaker 1: question would be, Uh, when did you first hear the
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Speaker 1: Bode gotten elected? And what was your reaction? Well, Uh,
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Speaker 1: I had a little cheat sheet, a little fly on
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Speaker 1: the wall, if you may. Sure. I knew probably about
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Speaker 1: four or five days before they announced it, and uh,
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Speaker 1: don't ask me how, but I knew. And uh, for me,
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Speaker 1: it was the you know, one of those things to
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Speaker 1: try and uh keep her secret, and um, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to spoil the impact factor, you know, the surprise
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Speaker 1: factor for everyone. Uh. And I was excited for both obviously,
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Speaker 1: whether I knew then or I found out you know,
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Speaker 1: over NFL network and they announced it or however it goes. Um,
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I found out, Man, I was like, wow,
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Speaker 1: great and it's about time. So uh, yeah, I was
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Speaker 1: very excited for what's the pride level? I mean, I know,
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Speaker 1: for me covering this story, it's been a different experience
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Speaker 1: because I was around you guys when you played, and
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Speaker 1: there starts to be a connection when you were sort
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Speaker 1: of there, if you will. Uh. And that's me as
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Speaker 1: a reporter, not involved with it really at all. Um,
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Speaker 1: I've got to think as a former teammate and a
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Speaker 1: guy who's really linked with Tony, who knew him when
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Speaker 1: you played, the pride level of the emotion has to
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Speaker 1: be pretty special when you hear that news, right, Oh,
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Speaker 1: without a doubt. I mean granted everything that you know
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Speaker 1: that's that was involved to get both there. You know,
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Speaker 1: what he did on the field, what he meant to
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars organization. Um, you know, you go back and
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Speaker 1: your look when you when you go back and look
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Speaker 1: at Tony's career, you know, no doubt obviously he stands
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Speaker 1: out as one of the best to ever play the game.
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Speaker 1: And the biggest question was, um, the amount of time
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Speaker 1: that he played. That was the only thing that separated
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Speaker 1: Tony from being a first ballot. Um. And it's football,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's football. Things happen, injuries happened. But for
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Speaker 1: Bo to be able to uh convince people, uh, in
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Speaker 1: the amount of time that he did, the amount of
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Speaker 1: work that he did in the accolades that he accumulated. Um,
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Speaker 1: I think that's even more special, you know, because these
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Speaker 1: are once in a lifetime type players. Um, Tony. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: to answer your question, being a teammate, to put in
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Speaker 1: the work with Tony, to to be able to see Tony,
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Speaker 1: uh leading the way that he led the guys, how
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Speaker 1: he his relationship with Mark and and Coach Coughlin and
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Speaker 1: the other players on the team. Uh, just to be
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Speaker 1: able to see that in the amount of work he
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Speaker 1: put in. Man, you you know you you you knew
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Speaker 1: he was a Hall of Fame talent, you know. And
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Speaker 1: your frustrations, my frustrations, you know, they ran as deep,
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Speaker 1: you know, wondering if they were gonna put me in someday. Uh,
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Speaker 1: they ran as deep for Tony because I know he
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Speaker 1: was deserving of the the not to go to campon.
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Speaker 1: Uh So our frustrations traveled along the same path because
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Speaker 1: I got a chance to see him behind the scene.
5:01
Speaker 1: I saw him, you know, when I got ready to
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Speaker 1: run the ball, you know, we break the huddle, heat
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Speaker 1: whisper Freddie, I got you you know, or whatever it
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Speaker 1: might be. Uh So it's just special, man, uh, um,
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Speaker 1: just really here, just on the phone, just kind of
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Speaker 1: playing memories in my head, you know, trying to make
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Speaker 1: sure that I stayed the course and I don't get
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Speaker 1: overly emotional. Uh here, because we put in a lot
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Speaker 1: of work. You know, we put in a gang of work.
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Speaker 1: Not everyone sees what goes on behind the scene. That
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Speaker 1: sees why they'll see what happens on Sunday. And it's
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Speaker 1: harder to see for those big guys up front, you
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Speaker 1: know what happens on Sunday because they're not scoring touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: You know, they're not getting all the glory in a
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Speaker 1: in a limelight. You know, they're big, fast, strong, and
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Speaker 1: they considered either they're good or bad. And you know
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Speaker 1: how those are. Real football enthusiasts know what to look for.
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Speaker 1: But for the average fan, that's not sexy to them.
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Speaker 1: But we we see the work, We know what goes
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Speaker 1: into play. We knew that both protected Mark. We knew
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Speaker 1: what he did in the run game, uh and we
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Speaker 1: knew we brought to the the table, brought to the table
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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars organization as a whole. He did it
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Speaker 1: the right way. Tell me about him as a you know,
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Speaker 1: he got pigeonholed somehow when he was playing everybody knew
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Speaker 1: he could pass bart Um and then somehow, for some reason,
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Speaker 1: there was a quote knock on him as a run blocker. Uh,
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Speaker 1: but he was a hell of a run blocker, fred right,
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Speaker 1: And it still surprises me. And this isn't a knock
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Speaker 1: on Jason Taylor. And this is just one guy. I know.
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Speaker 1: He he pancakes and crushed a lot of guys. The
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Speaker 1: thing is Tony was able to beat you with his
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Speaker 1: athletic ability. Although he was strong as an ox and
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Speaker 1: he could know he could, he could just muscle you
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Speaker 1: to the ground. You know. He was so talented and
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Speaker 1: he had a great brain on his shoulders where he
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Speaker 1: was able to out thank you and beat you to
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Speaker 1: your your spot, you know, using this proper footwork and
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Speaker 1: doing the thing that coach maser you know, uh that
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Speaker 1: they taught him up front, and uh, he didn't have
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Speaker 1: to be a maler every play. You know. He was
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Speaker 1: also a finesse guy who could you know, get on
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Speaker 1: the outside and and hook block you, you know in
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Speaker 1: silver edge and allowed me to get out there on
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Speaker 1: a thirty nine boss or thirty you know, thirty nine
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Speaker 1: stretch outside zone play um and uh, I enjoyed running left.
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Speaker 1: That was my strong suit, my strong side to run on.
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Speaker 1: I just felt more comfortable running that way when the
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Speaker 1: ball was in my hand. I enjoyed running behind Lee
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Speaker 1: Uncertacy just as much as I enjoyed running behind Tony.
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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but it was always a plus
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Speaker 1: plus for me because my left my left side was
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Speaker 1: my more dumbinant side when it came to security run
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Speaker 1: in the ball. So I always felt great running behind Tony.
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Speaker 1: So whoever made that stupid comment? You know, stupid comments
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Speaker 1: are made all the time in the in the media,
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Speaker 1: and in life in general, and they don't always fit. Um,
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Speaker 1: the the comments don't always fit, and it certainly didn't
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Speaker 1: fit when they you know, opposed it as it relates
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Speaker 1: to tone. Do you uh you know this may not
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Speaker 1: be a fair question, but do you have a favorite
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Speaker 1: play memory? Uh of a run you made rare TONI
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Speaker 1: at a key block? Is the one that stands out
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Speaker 1: for you or not? I just I just have this
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Speaker 1: one thought that's always it was so many, grant, it
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Speaker 1: was so it was so many. Uh, but uh, it
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Speaker 1: takes a lot for big boat kind of get overly
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Speaker 1: excited and extremely passionate and kind of you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of hit you with the something's funky right. Uh, it
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Speaker 1: was one of those games. I'm just trying to remember.
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Speaker 1: We we ran off a nice run, but he was
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Speaker 1: he turned to the guy was like, you know, with
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Speaker 1: his big gloves on, kind of waving at him like
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Speaker 1: come on, you want some more? Like he wants some more.
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Speaker 1: Look at that. I mean, it's it's one of those
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Speaker 1: iconic things. I just can't remember the exact runners Taylor.
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Speaker 1: It was probably j T. Yeah, I was thinking JT
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Speaker 1: in my head. Uh, but it was so many of them.
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Speaker 1: I remember the Monday night game, my very first Monday
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Speaker 1: Night game and team ministry for me against the Dolphins.
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Speaker 1: There I ripped off that seventy eight yard run. Uh
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Speaker 1: it was a thirty nine. It was a thirty nine
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Speaker 1: slash to the left right behind bow and what I
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Speaker 1: said to myself was, I'm gonna cut this thing back
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Speaker 1: no matter what. Um. But before the play, they were
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Speaker 1: telling me to make sure I pressed the hole and
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Speaker 1: get outside Tony's because Tony's gonna hook him. Tony did
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Speaker 1: his job like he always usually does, but I premeditated
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Speaker 1: cut and uh yeah, I premeditated because I felt like
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Speaker 1: Zach Thomas was gonna overrun the play, and that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what happened. So even though Tony got this man, Zach
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Speaker 1: was a hundred miles an hour over shooting the play.
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Speaker 1: Who's also, uh, should to be a Hall of Famers
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Speaker 1: here shortly? Um, But Tony did his job and I
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Speaker 1: just made a cut right before his gap and it
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Speaker 1: worked out for us, thank god. Well, hands off Taylor
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Speaker 1: running left, cut it back, He's got ahold there he is,
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Speaker 1: thirty pender rop side forty there he goes to it's
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Speaker 1: a foot race. Forty Taylor, thirty Taylor to the twenty.
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Speaker 1: He's to the ten. He's pulled down, but he gets
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Speaker 1: into the endzone touchdown in the first play of the game,
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Speaker 1: seventy seven yards. Fred Taylory erupts and show us all
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Speaker 1: tells stadium, and Tony met me and in Joe he
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Speaker 1: met he met me and ins by the time I
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Speaker 1: got to our sideline. And that's still one of my
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Speaker 1: favorite players because he's like, Freddy, I had you, like
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Speaker 1: I know you did, but uh, you know, I just
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Speaker 1: saw something else and I just took a gamble on that.
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Speaker 1: But it worked out. But it's a Tony ton of players. Uh.
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Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay game stands out. My rookie year, we
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Speaker 1: ran a it was a like a thirty six. Oh
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Speaker 1: uh where Tony pulled the town. It was a tackle
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Speaker 1: pull out of a shotgun against the Bucks. And Uh,
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Speaker 1: Tony went outside, kicked this guy out. I cut inside. Boom,
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Speaker 1: boom boom. I don't know. Seventy one yards later he started,
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Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's what I'm saying. Tony pulled. It was
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Speaker 1: boat pulling to the right, and uh, I got behind him.
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Speaker 1: Eat while this guy out, I cut cut, I cut
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Speaker 1: back to the left. Here comes spread looking up the
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Speaker 1: middle and cutting back there he goes at the fort tack.
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Speaker 1: He's on the run at the fifty on the go,
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Speaker 1: he's at the Fretten he's into the touchdown Jacksonville. Wow,
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Speaker 1: seventy yards for Frett Taylor at the track wards grat
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Speaker 1: the league. If you see a big seventy one flash
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Speaker 1: in your face, naturally, you're just on the runway over there.
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Speaker 1: And I was smart enough to know that everybody is
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Speaker 1: gonna follow Busselli, so I wanted to cut it back
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Speaker 1: behind Busselli and not bounce it outside again. Another place
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Speaker 1: where he hooked this guy and I got up inside
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Speaker 1: and uh, he's one of the first guys to the
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Speaker 1: end zone after I got done with the ugly celebration.
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Speaker 1: But Bow was always a guy who was enthoos for you. Uh,
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Speaker 1: no matter to run. Uh. He was a guy who
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Speaker 1: would pick you up off the ground and make sure
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Speaker 1: you were good. Um. I tell that story every now
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Speaker 1: and then, the one that he tells a lot better
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Speaker 1: than me. After stew went down. When I jock on
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Speaker 1: to feel, he goes, oh boy, it comes to rookie.
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Speaker 1: And granted I hadn't done anything before that game, and
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Speaker 1: and and just so had it. Here we go again
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Speaker 1: another place of both tonyside, which was a toss sweep
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Speaker 1: to the left behind Bussellly I cut back to the
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Speaker 1: right inside and then bounced outside of uh Seracy who
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Speaker 1: walled this guy down, And fifty two yards later another touchdown.
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Speaker 1: But somehow all of these runs seem to start either
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Speaker 1: behind Bussell or behind Bussell, even if he's pulling to
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Speaker 1: sweep left. There goes Fred Taylor. He's across the fifty
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Speaker 1: coming back breaking tackles fort there go Taylor forty. He's
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Speaker 1: three at the thirty. He's at the twenty fred Taylor
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Speaker 1: ted five touchdown, Jackson Bill fifty two yards and Fred
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Speaker 1: Taylor makes a statement in his first major run. They
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Speaker 1: all ended up in touchdowns, ironically, But those are just
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Speaker 1: that shares out, man, h that stand out off from
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Speaker 1: my rookie year. But there was so many other years
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Speaker 1: and sweat and tears of brotherhood and love and respecting
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Speaker 1: all that good stuff man that comes with it. So
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Speaker 1: I'm excited, so excited for both to have finally uh
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Speaker 1: found forever? Was that a couple more, But we talked.
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Speaker 1: I talked last week. I think it was to Brunel
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Speaker 1: about the same thing, and he mentioned something that you
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Speaker 1: just sort of touched on that, you know, beyond being
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Speaker 1: obviously a great player, which Tony was, he was the
14:30
Speaker 1: leader of that team in a lot of ways in
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Speaker 1: terms of, uh, you know, making sure guys were working.
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Speaker 1: He sort of set the tone, did he not? Both
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Speaker 1: Um boy always wanted to make sure he was an
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Speaker 1: extension um of coach Coffin in terms of his voice
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Speaker 1: being heard in the locker room. I mean, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: and I say it respectfully that if guys just decided
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Speaker 1: to follow, it's a pretty good chance those guys were
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Speaker 1: gonna be around for a while if guys went to the
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Speaker 1: the other way, because we had a you know, we
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Speaker 1: had a certain locker room where guys knew they had
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Speaker 1: to come and work, and their downtime and their free time,
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Speaker 1: their time to kind of decompress, was to be able
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Speaker 1: to be jokesters and comedians, you know, the d M
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Speaker 1: triggers of the world way back in those days, and
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Speaker 1: the bees and all those guys, um it, uh a
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Speaker 1: lot of them did listen to the boat. You know,
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Speaker 1: Uh they're respected was something. Um sometimes they felt that, man,
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Speaker 1: we get enough of this from Coach Coffin and while
15:41
Speaker 1: we got to hear from you. But but you know,
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Speaker 1: those guys certainly made sure they showed up because they
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Speaker 1: know they knew Boat was gonna show up. So he
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Speaker 1: was certainly a leader for us. Uh. Me, coming in
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Speaker 1: as rookie, I wanted to make sure I didn't upset
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Speaker 1: the big fella. And uh I tried to do everything right,
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Speaker 1: and I tried to make them, you know, um proud
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Speaker 1: of me. You know, I didn't want to mess up.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I got inline. You know,
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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that as hard as he
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Speaker 1: would go I would go as hard, you know, to
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Speaker 1: earn that respect from him, and at some point during
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Speaker 1: the season, Um that initial comment that he made when
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Speaker 1: he saw me jogging on the field uh for the Ravens,
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Speaker 1: which I didn't necessarily here, by the way, until years later,
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Speaker 1: but that that quickly changed, and in part because of
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Speaker 1: me wanting to prove to him that I was worthy.
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Speaker 1: And eventually it married up to where we had amazing
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Speaker 1: chemistry across the board, uh, starting with Bow protecting Mark
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Speaker 1: and being able to open up some lanes for myself,
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Speaker 1: being able to get help Mark get the ball down
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Speaker 1: to Jimmy, Keenan Kyle uh. And it started, you know,
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Speaker 1: it started with both. He was one of the best
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Speaker 1: player where he was the best player on the team
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Speaker 1: for years. We uh um when he first got in.
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Speaker 1: I remember talking to Leon seriously the next day and Uh, Leon,
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Speaker 1: as he often has, had a great quote he said,
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Speaker 1: for the guys who played with them during that era,
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Speaker 1: it was like that in that entire era got inducted
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Speaker 1: into the Hall, and there was that sort of pride
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Speaker 1: and that sort of closeness of it, um, and there
17:35
Speaker 1: really was a feeling of camaraderie among you guys wasn't there.
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Speaker 1: I think it doesn't have to be that way. It
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Speaker 1: happens naturally. Uh. And that's that's more of a you know,
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Speaker 1: a respect and uh in a brotherhood and knowing who
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Speaker 1: was gonna show up. You know some guys when you
17:53
Speaker 1: see some guys and they kind of meander a long
17:56
Speaker 1: and kind of get there when they want. You know,
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Speaker 1: you like, all right, you can kind of tell that
18:02
Speaker 1: this guy in about business, he might not be there.
18:04
Speaker 1: But when it's uh uh a respectful brotherhood and you
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Speaker 1: knew these are guys that you can depend on, you know,
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Speaker 1: these are guys that you can break bread with, then yeah,
18:17
Speaker 1: the camaraderie is a lot better because you you knew
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Speaker 1: that you can go sleep at night and I have
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Speaker 1: to wake up the next day and you know, see
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Speaker 1: this guy's mug shot or whatever on the screen or
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Speaker 1: ESPN and what have you. Uh So it just made
18:33
Speaker 1: for a better locker room and environment, uh in a
18:36
Speaker 1: better unwritten or unspoken rule where you don't have to
18:41
Speaker 1: just check each other because you knew this guy was
18:43
Speaker 1: gonna show up. And there are several relationships throughout the
18:48
Speaker 1: team with guys that knew you know, his his brother,
18:52
Speaker 1: his fellow teammate was gonna show up and and uh
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Speaker 1: again Tony, and he led that charge a lot. So
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure guys are excited for both that we're
19:05
Speaker 1: on the team. That might not even we don't talk
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Speaker 1: every day on the phone, we don't text weekly or monthly,
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Speaker 1: but the love and the respect and the admiration will
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Speaker 1: always be there when we do catch up. We check
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Speaker 1: up on each other as families, health, mental states, um,
19:24
Speaker 1: because they love is is embedded in the foundation of
19:28
Speaker 1: what we built together. And you know that that honored
19:32
Speaker 1: amongst guys that fellowship. Um. You know, we did a
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Speaker 1: Jaguars draft party, uh with the Bowl City group out
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Speaker 1: there in Vegas, and all of the guys showed up
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Speaker 1: and they honored Boat that day. But even just to
19:47
Speaker 1: have sort of like a celebration, a post induction, a
19:52
Speaker 1: post announcement induction slash pre Hall of Fame induction celebration
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Speaker 1: type get together, we're able to just kind of you know,
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Speaker 1: kicking with each other, have a drink or two and
20:04
Speaker 1: just kind of talk about the memories and take photos
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Speaker 1: man and smile and remember the old days. Uh, but
20:12
Speaker 1: just be thankful that we're all still here and able
20:15
Speaker 1: to enjoy each other. Final question. I think I know
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Speaker 1: you well enough that you know you're not wanting to
20:23
Speaker 1: make this about you. I get that. But one of
20:26
Speaker 1: the first things Tony said when he got inducted during
20:28
Speaker 1: his press conference was he mentioned you and that you're
20:33
Speaker 1: you know, equally deserving. Uh. Did that mean something to
20:37
Speaker 1: you for him to do that? You know? Um, knowing
20:39
Speaker 1: both both doesn't have to do that, and we both
20:42
Speaker 1: know he doesn't. Um. Hell, he knows right. UM, it
20:47
Speaker 1: does mean a lot, you know. And again what I
20:50
Speaker 1: just said, it's the mutual you know, respect and honor
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Speaker 1: and monks, friends and teammates. There was a race to that.
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Speaker 1: Neither one of us really cared who got there first. Um,
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Speaker 1: both of us, you know, I have to set same
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Speaker 1: respect and we both feel that both of us are deserving. Uh.
21:15
Speaker 1: And I know my time will come. I'm not worried
21:18
Speaker 1: about I'm not pressing the gas on it, and I
21:21
Speaker 1: understand the process. Um. And when that time comes, you know,
21:27
Speaker 1: there will be a few surprises, but that time will come,
21:30
Speaker 1: it'll it'll sort itself out, you know. But again, it's
21:33
Speaker 1: not about me, is it is about both? Um, He's
21:38
Speaker 1: much much much much deserving and again without question and
21:43
Speaker 1: without benefit of the doubt. Uh, if both had turned
21:47
Speaker 1: out another year or two or three, you know, and
21:52
Speaker 1: then I'm talking about just being around the game, you know,
21:55
Speaker 1: not even having the prime uh day of his career
22:01
Speaker 1: that we know you no know him for you know, uh,
22:06
Speaker 1: instead of you know, the amount of time that he played.
22:10
Speaker 1: If it were double digit years, they would have said, oh,
22:12
Speaker 1: hands down, for silis a first ballot Hall of Famer,
22:15
Speaker 1: and he should have could have easily been when you
22:17
Speaker 1: compare him to the the the oddens of the world,
22:22
Speaker 1: you know, um, the Walter Jones and those guys. You know,
22:28
Speaker 1: Bo was just as good as those guys pound for pound. Um.
22:33
Speaker 1: But you know that that's neither here nor there. It's
22:36
Speaker 1: time to celebrate the fact that he is gonna be
22:39
Speaker 1: immortalizing canon and forever a Jaguar and for every one
22:43
Speaker 1: of the greats, which is well well deserved, and thank
22:47
Speaker 1: god it happened in two and uh we get to
22:52
Speaker 1: celebrate it. So I pray that you know, everyone that's
22:56
Speaker 1: invited is able to make it there safely, to be
22:59
Speaker 1: able to celebrate with Bo and his family, um, and
23:04
Speaker 1: making home safely Fred, I'm having a blast doing this series.
23:08
Speaker 1: I could talk to you about it forever. I look
23:10
Speaker 1: forward to when I'm doing the same thing regarding you
23:13
Speaker 1: in a couple of years. I can't thank you enough
23:16
Speaker 1: for doing this. I know jag Wars fans love hearing
23:19
Speaker 1: the stories about you, know back in the day. We're
23:21
Speaker 1: old men now, Fred, But uh, I love talking to
23:24
Speaker 1: you about this. I don't know about that. John, Hey,
23:27
Speaker 1: I might have to slow you down on that when
23:28
Speaker 1: I try to work on my mind right well, and
23:32
Speaker 1: I know where you're going. I'm an old man ourselves.
23:36
Speaker 1: We we are seasoned. Because old you throw, you toss out.
23:42
Speaker 1: So I like to get rid of the word oh.
23:45
Speaker 1: For the most part, it's some old cars or something
23:48
Speaker 1: like that. But when it comes to the human body
23:50
Speaker 1: and mind, I like to think of all of us
23:53
Speaker 1: as just seasoned in our ways. And uh, things get
23:57
Speaker 1: better when you marinate and season it. And that's what
24:00
Speaker 1: we do through wisdom and health and thank God that
24:04
Speaker 1: we have the ability to Breathe is good oxygen each
24:07
Speaker 1: and every moment that we're here. We're not old, Jo,
24:11
Speaker 1: We're ye seasoned baby, and I appreciate you having me
24:14
Speaker 1: on and again man, do all to the day we die,
24:19
Speaker 1: and always and forever due. Gotta love it, Fred, You're
24:25
Speaker 1: always fantastic. I appreciate and we'll talk so all right, John,
24:29
Speaker 1: Thanks man,