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The Bolt Report | 9 February · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: Jesus is the report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight who has made this country so dangerous for Jews?
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Speaker 2: Israel's president visit Sydney after the Bondai massacre of Jews
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Speaker 2: and eating apparently an armored car, thousands of police and
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Speaker 2: even snipers to protect him. This photo shames Australia. Plus
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Speaker 2: by teacher should be sacked for promoting terrorist slogans and
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Speaker 2: a Palestinian terrorists in our classrooms. And the super Bowl
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Speaker 2: today the greatest sporting event in the United States and
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Speaker 2: American cultural icon. So why was the halftime entertainment in Spanish?
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Speaker 3: Boy?
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Speaker 2: Was Donald Trump? Cross? But first, we are never in
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Speaker 2: our lives seen such a total collapse in support for
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Speaker 2: the Liberals. Worse, we have also never seen this shock
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Speaker 2: party without an alternative leader ready to savor. There's no
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Speaker 2: Tony Abbott waiting. Support for the coalition. Liberals and Nationals
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Speaker 2: together dropped in today's Newspot to a record new low
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Speaker 2: of just eighteen percent. I mean, that's catastrophic. One nation
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Speaker 2: has now saw to twenty seven percent under Pauline Hanson
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Speaker 2: and it's now nipping at Labour's heels. Now, this is
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Speaker 2: not a blip, This is not a flesh wound. This
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Speaker 2: is not something that Susan Lee, the opposition leader, can
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Speaker 2: overcome by promising voters the unity she has been unable
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Speaker 2: to get from the party she leads, or by yesterday
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Speaker 2: finally reforming the coalition.
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Speaker 4: I think they looked at the disunity and the back
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Speaker 4: and forwards and they marked us down.
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Speaker 5: Because they saw us talking about ourselves.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, This and the many recent polls like
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Speaker 2: it make clear that the once great Liberal Party is
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Speaker 2: now threatened with utter destruction and Australia, by the way,
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Speaker 2: with economic decline. Because there's actually no easy way out
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Speaker 2: for the Liberals, or maybe anyway out, not if the
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Speaker 2: party does now what we're told is likely possibly this week,
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Speaker 2: this very week, and rush Defense spokesman Angus Taylor into
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Speaker 2: the leadership to replace Lee, because consider this, why haven't
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Speaker 2: the Liberals already replaced Lee with Taylor?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 2: Today's news poll shows that Lee is the most unpopular
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Speaker 2: leader of a major party in twenty three years, that
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Speaker 2: since Labor Simon Crean. And it's not as if today's
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Speaker 2: poll comes as a surprise, what a change. It's just
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Speaker 2: the latest of months of increasingly terrible polls for the Liberals.
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Speaker 2: Yet they have done nothing for weeks and weeks and
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Speaker 2: weeks and weeks, but watch in horror. Although today's pole
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Speaker 2: surely is the straw for Lee, Liberal centator Jane Hume,
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Speaker 2: who we should say was Sackmo Susan Lee from the
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Speaker 2: front bench, not surprisingly drew the obvious conclusion today Lee
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Speaker 2: had to just had to go.
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Speaker 5: Unless something changes, we will be wiped out. I've been
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Speaker 5: looking at the numbers. I don't think that at this
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Speaker 5: point there will be a single member of the House
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Speaker 5: of Representatives from Victoria. There won't be a single member
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Speaker 5: of the House of Representatives from New South Wales. So
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Speaker 5: the party room wants to support a strong leader and
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Speaker 5: we have wanted to support a strong leader from day one.
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Speaker 5: This cannot be blamed on anyone else. It has to
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Speaker 5: come back to the leadership that we are facing today.
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Speaker 2: Yet even now there's only lukewarm support among the Liberals
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Speaker 2: for Angus Taylor, a Rhodes scholar who served as a minister,
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Speaker 2: as a shadow treasurer and our shadow defense spokesman. I
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Speaker 2: mean Taylor is said to be the Liberals conservative faction,
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Speaker 2: but even some other Conservatives supporters of Andrew Haysey, aren't
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Speaker 2: sure at all that he could save the party. I
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Speaker 2: think they're right. Before the last election, Taylor as Shadow
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Speaker 2: Treasurer actually promised potus higher deficits for two years than
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Speaker 2: Labor did. And that's unbelievable brand damage for a Liberal.
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Speaker 2: And you look at one of the big issues that
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Speaker 2: one nation is pushing, very successful, an issue turning sour
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Speaker 2: for Labor net zero. Now it's true that the Liberals
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Speaker 2: under Susan Lee have now dropped that target, but as
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Speaker 2: Scott Morris's Minister for Emission's Reduction, Angus Taylor actually pushed
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Speaker 2: for net zero. And what's more, Taylor banked on unproven
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Speaker 2: technologies to get there, technologies like green hydrogen. That's all
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Speaker 2: those proches since collapsed. In fact, this global warming plans
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Speaker 2: then at times sounded much like the disastrous policies today
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Speaker 2: of Labour's Energy Minister Chris Bahn.
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Speaker 6: We know that as the cost of lower missions technologies
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Speaker 6: come down, they get adopted and they bring down emissions,
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Speaker 6: and we've seen that with SOLA. We've laid out a
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Speaker 6: whole series of others hydrogen, carbon capture and storage, regenerating
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Speaker 6: our soil's lower emission, steel and aluminium investing twenty billion
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Speaker 6: dollars in the technologies that will bring those emissions down,
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Speaker 6: that can deliver net zero by twenty fifty.
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Speaker 2: And that's the problem with Angus Taylor as a leader
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Speaker 2: who will have to attack the net zero target that
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Speaker 2: do you want support it? He'll have to push for
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Speaker 2: cuts through immigration levels below even what he and the
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Speaker 2: rest of the Liberals wants backed. He'll have to push
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Speaker 2: for even tougher spending cuts than he promised before. And
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Speaker 2: that's precisely the problem that's turning so many voters off
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Speaker 2: the Liberals. What do they really stand for? What do
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Speaker 2: they stand for like Paul and Hanson has stood for
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Speaker 2: her own beliefs for decades. It's not budging, not flapping
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Speaker 2: with the wind.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: If the Liberals want to offer change that you can
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Speaker 2: believe in, it needs a leader who looks.
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Speaker 1: Like that change.
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Speaker 2: And that's why I back to Andrew Hays Stephen, though
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Speaker 2: yes is inexperience, is untried, he's lacking in some charm
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Speaker 2: and ease. At least it means what he says, and
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Speaker 2: what he says is slash immigration, scrap neit zero policies,
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Speaker 2: built pride in the nation, exactly what many one nation
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Speaker 2: supporters want as well. That's in Taylor may be the
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Speaker 2: change without a difference. But in saying all this that
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Speaker 2: the Liberals are doomed with our profound and believable change,
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Speaker 2: let's not forget the real message in the polls. What
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Speaker 2: we're seeing is fundamentally a revolt against the Albanese government, yes,
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Speaker 2: and the politics as usual from both sides. That's made
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Speaker 2: Austrains poorer and more divided. That's made housing too expensive
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Speaker 2: for our young. That's made Australia weaker and deeper in debt.
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Speaker 2: Because look again at this News poll. Look at the
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Speaker 2: labor vote. Now, even with no competition from the revel
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Speaker 2: that calls itself a coalition, Labor has still fallen to
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Speaker 2: just thirty three percent of the vote two Thursds of
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Speaker 2: Australians don't want labor. They want to vote for someone else.
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Speaker 2: But they have found the Liberals to be unworthy of
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Speaker 2: their vote on past performance and present disarray. So of
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Speaker 2: course they've switched to One Nation. That's a no brainer.
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson and a star recruit, Bannnaby Joyce, the former
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Speaker 2: Deputy Deputy proman, they know One Nation has still got
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Speaker 2: a long way to go to turn this massive support
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Speaker 2: today into votes at an election tomorrow.
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Speaker 7: Now, I'm not going to for one second say that, oh, well,
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Speaker 7: they're all going to vote one nation.
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Speaker 1: No they're not.
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Speaker 2: But they're turning up to listen and to consider, and
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Speaker 2: the polling also reflect that as well. But one nation
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Speaker 2: is not standing still. I'm told they will have two
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Speaker 2: more reasonably big recruits joining them over the next couple
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Speaker 2: of months and will create some news. And if the
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Speaker 2: Liberal or the coalition vote really together, if that keeps falling,
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Speaker 2: there may be more of them, maybe Liberal Senator Alexandik,
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Speaker 2: maybe Nationals MP Lou Edwards and others. And that is
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Speaker 2: why some labor and pieces suddenly sounding a bit scared themselves.
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Speaker 2: They are going from gloating at the Liberals collapse so
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Speaker 2: suddenly worrying that one nation may now be coming for them.
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Speaker 2: You take Jerome Luxel today now demanding that the Liberals
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Speaker 2: helped stop one nation, not give it preferences that might
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Speaker 2: help it get elected.
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Speaker 8: I would say two things to the Liberal Party is one,
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Speaker 8: stop legitimizing one nation and far right politics right.
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Speaker 9: Second thing is stop racing to the right to try
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Speaker 9: and copycat them.
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Speaker 2: Now, if that's Labour's advice. That's it just the Liberals
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Speaker 2: doing the exact opposite.
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Speaker 10: Do that.
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Speaker 2: Or else be wiped out and then see labor keep
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Speaker 2: destroying this country. More later on the collapse of the Liberals.
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Speaker 2: But to a photo today that should shame Australia. Photo
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Speaker 2: going around the world. Snipers in Sydney to protect Israel's
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Speaker 2: President Isaac Hertzog and the Jews meeting, I mean snipers
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Speaker 2: now snipers. In fact, Hartzog also seems to have had
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Speaker 2: to travel in Sydney in an armored car with more
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Speaker 2: than three thousand police to protect him the Jews. He
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Speaker 2: met him bunde plus other Australians from the anti Israelian
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Speaker 2: pro Palacinian protest as he marched against Hatzog in Sydney. Today,
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Speaker 2: What has happened to us? What have we imported to
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Speaker 2: make Australia so dangerous the Jews? What have our schools
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Speaker 2: and our universities and our cultural institutions taught that have
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Speaker 2: made so many of our young Australians so intolerant and
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Speaker 2: so full of hate for Israel and Australia. In fact,
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Speaker 2: we got another example of just that in a report
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Speaker 2: in The Daily Telegraph Today about a booklet of hate
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Speaker 2: published by teachers by the teachers for Palestine, New South
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Speaker 2: Wales and Victoria activist groups for use in schools. Incredibly,
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Speaker 2: it's a booklet promoting or defending terrorists, and any teacher
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Speaker 2: using this book in class should be sacked and banned
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Speaker 2: from teaching. That also suggests police be called because in
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Speaker 2: this booklet, popular children's cartoon characters, including Bluey, are shown
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Speaker 2: holding up a sign, for instance, that's in affect a
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Speaker 2: genocidal call for the end of Israel from the River
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Speaker 2: to the Sea. The booklet also praises Palestinian terist Lei
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Speaker 2: La Khaled, calling her a brave Palasine woman who became
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Speaker 2: famous for her courage and determination to fight for a
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Speaker 2: people's rights. In fact, she became famous because Khaled hijacked
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Speaker 2: two passenger jets diverting Mont to Syria, where Jewish passengers
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Speaker 2: were then jailed and some held for months as hostage.
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Speaker 2: This is a pro terrorist booklet. The teachers, some of them,
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Speaker 2: weren't used to indoctrinate children imprisoned almost captive in schools.
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Speaker 2: Why are the teachers behind them still employed in public schools.
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Speaker 2: We're seeing something in Australia. There's not just deadly to Jews,
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Speaker 2: but to us. All An, the Israeli president put it
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Speaker 2: very well today.
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Speaker 11: This was also an attack on all Australians. The attacked
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Speaker 11: the values that our democracy's treasure, the sanctity of human life,
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Speaker 11: the freedom of religion, tolerance, dignity and respect.
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Speaker 1: This is how terror.
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Speaker 11: Operates all around the world over the generations. One thing
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Speaker 11: has become clear. Hatred that starts with the Jews never
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Speaker 11: ends with the Jews.
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Speaker 2: Joining me and Michael Kroger, former President the Victorian Liberals
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Speaker 2: and Michael Danby, former Federal labor politician and Chairman of
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Speaker 2: the Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade.
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Speaker 2: Michael Kroger, the visited President Hertzog and the protests being
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Speaker 2: held right now in Sydney against them, what do they.
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Speaker 9: Tell you, well, Andrew, I look at this way. The
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Speaker 9: pro Palestinian mob here and around the.
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Speaker 1: World have lost.
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Speaker 9: They've lost the battle, they've lost the argument, so they
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Speaker 9: become more extreme. There are fewer of them, but they're
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Speaker 9: more extreme. They chant now Nazi slogans like from the
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Speaker 9: Rivet of the Sea. But they lost, and they're incredibly
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Speaker 9: angry because their attack on Western civilization has failed. Hamasa
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Speaker 9: being slowly wound up as a hezbalah As are the hooties.
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Speaker 9: The Iranian regime is going to fall, then the Cuban
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Speaker 9: regime is going to fall.
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Speaker 1: I think by the end of the year.
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Speaker 9: The Western nations are moving against mass immigration. Western nations
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Speaker 9: are moving against Jewish hatred, hate speech, and neo Nazism
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Speaker 9: which has arisen in Western countries. So whatever I make it,
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Speaker 9: President Herzog is incredibly welcome in this country. And thank
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Speaker 9: goodness that Albanezi invited him. I congratulated him on fting
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Speaker 9: President Herzog. The Labor Party, the little party always does
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Speaker 9: with the Labor Party and everyone else in this country
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Speaker 9: and Western countries have to stand up against this Jewish hatred,
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Speaker 9: and they have stood up, by and large, various varying degrees.
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Speaker 1: But the anger is.
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Speaker 9: Because of these people are losing. And this is the
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Speaker 9: inevitable consequence Andrew of rejecting peace in the forties, the fifties,
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Speaker 9: sixty seven, seventy three, and then starting a war in
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Speaker 9: twenty twenty three. The world's had enough of Palestinian extremism
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Speaker 9: Islamic terrorism, which is why none of the Arab states
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Speaker 9: want to take anyone from Garza Andrew, Michael Danby.
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Speaker 12: Well, I'm less optimistic than Michael Kroger. I see the
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Speaker 12: whole hysterical atmosphere in Australia. Now you're right, Andrew, it's
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Speaker 12: not just a matter of this affecting Jews or reflecting Israel.
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Speaker 12: It's a victory if you ask me of the woke
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Speaker 12: in the unions, in the arts, in the media, and
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Speaker 12: it pull tends badly for all of us. The fact
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Speaker 12: that you could have taught in Victorian and New South
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Speaker 12: Wales schools a woman Lei La Khaled, who's a member
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Speaker 12: of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a
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Speaker 12: listed terrorist organization by the Australian Parliament, indicates the whole mood.
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Speaker 12: How could this be taught to Australian children, That such
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Speaker 12: a hands on murderer and hijacker is someone to emulate
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Speaker 12: for young Australian kids.
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Speaker 1: Terrible.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just shocked by it. Like I say,
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Speaker 2: I'm just stune that they we haven't seen immediately an
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Speaker 2: investigation to any teacher that's had their hands on this
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Speaker 2: booklet and sack them. They are not to be trusted
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Speaker 2: around children, and until I see something like that, I
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Speaker 2: will not take seriously. There is the assurances by our politicians.
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Speaker 2: I know we're right on the top of the jew
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Speaker 2: hatred Michael, Michael Krogan.
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Speaker 9: Well, exactly, And let's hope Chrismians can put a stop
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Speaker 9: to this. This is disgusting, this is just Jewish hatred.
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Speaker 9: I mean, let's be frank, Andrew. If people were so
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Speaker 9: interested in March's humanity for humanity, where's the march for
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Speaker 9: ninety thousand people across the Sydney Harbor Bridge supporting the
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Speaker 9: good people in Iran who want to be freed of
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Speaker 9: this Islamic terrorist government in Iran? Where's the march of
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Speaker 9: humanity for that? Where are the marches in support of
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Speaker 9: the Iranian kmmmunity by all these left wing groups? Andrew,
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Speaker 9: you could be forgiven for thinking that it wasn't anything
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Speaker 9: about humanity. It wasn't about Iran, it wasn't about the
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Speaker 9: Wigas in China, it wasn't about the Christians in Nigeria,
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Speaker 9: it wasn't about the freedom loving people in the Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: It was only about the Jews.
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Speaker 9: But to take Michael's point, why I'm optimistic, optimistic is
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Speaker 9: if you have a look at the Poles, the only
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Speaker 9: optimistic thing in the polls. If you thought that this
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Speaker 9: argument has been won by these anti Jewish extremists, the
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Speaker 9: Greens vote would have gone up, and it hasn't gone up.
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Speaker 1: What's gone up? What's gone up?
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Speaker 9: The One Nation vote, which is associated with a number
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Speaker 9: of policies, one of which is the pride in Australia,
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Speaker 9: and these people are not winning the argument Australians.
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Speaker 2: And also One Nation is very very pro Israel as well.
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Speaker 2: I just said that I should have point out I
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Speaker 2: often I urge people, well that's true too, but not
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Speaker 2: going up? Ichare viewers, I mean offen, cruicize. The ABC
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Speaker 2: urged them to catch up on iView whatever it is
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Speaker 2: on their latest episode of Foreign Correspondent last night, where
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Speaker 2: they had interviews with a lot of young Iranians in
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Speaker 2: heavy disguise talking about the revolution that they're trying to
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Speaker 2: attempt in Iran right now. It is his heartbreaking but
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Speaker 2: also inspiring. Please go and watch that. And also an
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Speaker 2: eleven is an Australian exclusive tonight on Skar Sharry Markson
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Speaker 2: goes one on one with Israeli President Isaac Kurtzong This
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Speaker 2: is only Australian interview, so don't miss it. That's straight
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Speaker 2: after my show at eight o'clock. But Michael Kroger mentioned
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Speaker 2: the polls. Michael Danby back to the Liberals newsfold shows
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Speaker 2: this supports nowdown to catastrophic eighteen percent nearly that's about
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Speaker 2: half their supporters really since the last election had deserted
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Speaker 2: them and almost all have gone to One Nation. It
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Speaker 2: seems what do you think is going to be the solution?
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Speaker 2: Is it changing leaders? To Angus Taylor.
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Speaker 12: After seeing Jane Hume's interview on your channel Andrew tonight,
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Speaker 12: I suspect Susan Lay will resign. It'll fall into.
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Speaker 2: His lap.
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Speaker 12: And if you ask me, he's had a charisma bypass.
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Speaker 12: He's not the person that will lead the Liberals into
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Speaker 12: the future with you pointed out his record as a
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Speaker 12: shadow treasure. But the thing I want to alert you
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Speaker 12: to is, while there's been a swing against Labor, if
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Speaker 12: you put them in the Greens together, the problem is
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Speaker 12: with the Australian political system, a preferential system, there's no
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Speaker 12: guarantee that if the one Nation runs first, that the
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Speaker 12: Liberals will preference them overwhelmingly. And if the Liberals run first,
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Speaker 12: that there's no indication that the one nation will preference
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Speaker 12: them first, So therefore the opposition vote is dissipated and
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Speaker 12: Labour still gets back having a ninety five seat majority
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Speaker 12: to start out with.
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Speaker 2: Michael Kroger these polls, who is the savior? If there
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Speaker 2: is no one savior, everyone's got to lift their game.
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Speaker 2: You know, there are a couple that have done tremendous work,
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Speaker 2: like James Patterson. But who can lead the Liberals out
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Speaker 2: of this unbelievable catastrophic looks like almost end of life situation.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think because of the dislocation over the last
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Speaker 9: nine months, it's been very heart for Susan Lee to
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Speaker 9: be honest and I would just urge her to get
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Speaker 9: out some major policies. Immigration obviously is very close to
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Speaker 9: being released. The coalition has to take on debt. Susan
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Speaker 9: Lee and Ted O'Brien have to take on debt. Unless
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Speaker 9: you take on debt, you'll be outspent at every election
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Speaker 9: by Labour running up the credit card with borrowed money.
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Speaker 1: And that's what Labor do.
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Speaker 9: Unless the nation is focused on debt as a problem
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Speaker 9: in this country, the cosure will be outspent it's an
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Speaker 9: old three card trick. At every election were fear being
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Speaker 9: accused of cutting things, so we refuse to.
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Speaker 1: Them and it's a it's an old creek.
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Speaker 2: I ask you about the leadership and you deflect to
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Speaker 2: policies that as a lean now may now not have
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Speaker 2: time to release.
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Speaker 1: Well, well, no, probably later in the week.
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Speaker 9: As you know, I've always worried that Susan hasn't been
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Speaker 9: given clear air and the Liberal Party. There's always a
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Speaker 9: price to pay for leadership change. There's always a price
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Speaker 9: to pay, right the structural.
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Speaker 1: Damage when it's permanent. She's been there nine months.
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Speaker 9: Gillard was there for three years before they got rid
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Speaker 9: of their first FEELSI Leed's only been there nine months,
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Speaker 9: which is I worry about the long term damage. I
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Speaker 9: look back in a year into his time with Labour
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Speaker 9: saying they never gave the Liberal Party leader of the
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Speaker 9: woman a fair goy. She had the National Party, she
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Speaker 9: had had internal critics, she had net zero, she never
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Speaker 9: had clear That's what worries me long term. But look,
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Speaker 9: if you have a look at the Reecordce Andrew, something
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Speaker 9: might happen later in the weekend. Man, my friends Jane
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Speaker 9: Hume and Sarah Henderson, who are like immensely and then
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Speaker 9: we've seen Professor Kretelin tonight. If you add all up together,
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Speaker 9: something looks like it's stirring to me.
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Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. You're talking
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Speaker 2: about two liberals women who were sacked by Susan Lee. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: well that's true. You're looking at two liberal women who
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Speaker 2: were sacked by Susan Lee. Have an axe grind and
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Speaker 2: among the bomb throwers to be perfectly blunt, who have
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Speaker 2: made Susan Lee's life hell ever since. So I wouldn't
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Speaker 2: be saying, look there they are these paragons of virtue.
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Speaker 2: They are saying the right things, I assume you know,
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Speaker 2: and all that, but they also have a vested interest.
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Speaker 2: Michael Kroger, Michael Danby, thank you very much to you both.
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Speaker 2: After the break, the coalition should train. It continues as
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Speaker 2: voters rushed to one nation, I'll be joined by Liberal
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Speaker 2: mp us sort of putting up his hand for the
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Speaker 2: leadership to discuss have they actually got what it takes
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Speaker 2: to get out of this hole. The Liberals are in
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Speaker 2: such strife that there is a growing realization even among
22:20
Speaker 2: politicians on the left of the party that they've got
22:22
Speaker 2: to change, particularly, got to appeal to the voters now
22:26
Speaker 2: rushing to back one nation instead. But do they actually
22:30
Speaker 2: have the guts to follow through. I heard something amazing
22:34
Speaker 2: on the weekend from one of those liberals. It says
22:36
Speaker 2: he has leadership ambitions but has just sound. Oh not,
22:40
Speaker 2: but he has therefore I think sounded more conservative than
22:45
Speaker 2: even Tony Abbott. Now, whenever was Prime Minister, he kept
22:48
Speaker 2: telling us not to trash our British heritage. His mantra
22:52
Speaker 2: then was that the country we created as an Aboriginal heritage,
22:55
Speaker 2: a British foundation, and a multicultural character. Tim Wilson, the
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Speaker 2: opposition spokesman for Industrial Relations and Small Business, out abbotted
23:05
Speaker 2: even Abbott in a speech to the Young Liberal Convention, saying, actually,
23:11
Speaker 2: we have an Aboriginal heritage, British foundation. Those bits are right,
23:14
Speaker 2: but forget the multiculturalism. We should instead have a united future.
23:19
Speaker 2: That's taking up a Pauline Hanson theme right there. But
23:22
Speaker 2: you can trust the Liberals, can you to really follow through?
23:27
Speaker 2: I spoke to Tim Wilson a short while ago. Tim Wilson,
23:31
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. First, obviously, the
23:34
Speaker 2: News poll the Coalition down to eighteen percent Susan Lee
23:38
Speaker 2: the most disliked leader in twenty three years. Perconly, I
23:43
Speaker 2: like Susan Lee, but this does spell the end for her,
23:46
Speaker 2: doesn't it.
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm not prepared to say that, but there's clearly
23:50
Speaker 8: some middle finger voting going on to polsters from some
23:55
Speaker 8: of the electorate. We need to acknowledge that people looking
23:57
Speaker 8: at our political system at the moment and saying that
24:00
Speaker 8: think it delivers for them, and you know, frankly, I
24:02
Speaker 8: agree with them. What Australians want right now is to
24:05
Speaker 8: see a government focused on them, building out the pathway
24:08
Speaker 8: where hard work pays off and where they're increased their
24:12
Speaker 8: control they have over their lives. We need to step up,
24:16
Speaker 8: We need to do better to obviously secure that confidence.
24:21
Speaker 2: That seems a very low key reaction to an absolutely
24:24
Speaker 2: devastating pole there was ever in liberal history. I don't
24:28
Speaker 2: know if it's recoverable under present management and present policies,
24:32
Speaker 2: do you, well.
24:34
Speaker 8: I think the only way to solve this problem everyone
24:36
Speaker 8: focus on the individual and the chair. The only way
24:39
Speaker 8: to solve this problem is you've got to work together
24:42
Speaker 8: as a team. You've got to put forward a program.
24:44
Speaker 8: You've got to then go on articulate and sell that
24:46
Speaker 8: in campaign for it, because people have got to materially
24:49
Speaker 8: see it's going to improve their lives.
24:52
Speaker 2: I agree that you've got to do all the things
24:55
Speaker 2: you just said, then you haven't done them. That's the problem.
24:58
Speaker 2: There is going to be a chain engine individuals. Angus
25:01
Speaker 2: Taylor looks like challenging this week. Personally, I'm not so
25:06
Speaker 2: sure it's to change the Liberals need. It doesn't look
25:08
Speaker 2: at it doesn't sound it. Do you think it's that change.
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Speaker 8: Look, I'm not going to get into speculation, Andrew, I
25:16
Speaker 8: know how much everybody likes to talk about these things.
25:18
Speaker 8: Obviously a lot of conversations going on the corralors in
25:21
Speaker 8: this building. There's no point pretending otherwise. And everybody's talking
25:25
Speaker 8: about the future because they're seeing the poles, they're seeing
25:28
Speaker 8: discussions in the media. The focus has to be every
25:31
Speaker 8: time I look at it is how are you applying
25:34
Speaker 8: that energy to addressing that gap around the program and
25:37
Speaker 8: things we need to do to advance not just the
25:41
Speaker 8: party but frankly the best interests of Australians.
25:44
Speaker 2: I wonder whether you think you could be the change
25:48
Speaker 2: the Liberals need. I absolutely believe that.
25:52
Speaker 8: I am part of the change the Liberals need, not
25:56
Speaker 8: just in shadow portfolio, but to put forward disruptive policy
26:00
Speaker 8: proposals that are actually going to change the direction of
26:03
Speaker 8: political conversation. I'm not being subtle about that at all.
26:07
Speaker 8: I've outlined before in a speech. Well, that's up to
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Speaker 8: colleagues at the end of the day, because I've said
26:14
Speaker 8: publicly many times I'll serve and whatever role I can,
26:17
Speaker 8: but leadership's responsibility falls on all of us. It doesn't
26:21
Speaker 8: matter whether you're a backbencher, a member of shadow cabinet
26:24
Speaker 8: or the leader themselves.
26:26
Speaker 2: Well to your speech, I totally agree with needing to
26:31
Speaker 2: change the focus from multiculturalism to unity. I thought you
26:35
Speaker 2: had a very good line, a twist on something Tony
26:37
Speaker 2: Abbott to a phrase Tony Abbott coined it's easy to say,
26:42
Speaker 2: but what takes guts, of course, is actually doing something.
26:46
Speaker 2: What did you have in mind that actually needed doing?
26:49
Speaker 2: Like how about just flying the Australian flag, not three
26:52
Speaker 2: flags as just a symbolic start.
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Speaker 8: That's a symbolic start, but I don't think that's core focus.
27:00
Speaker 8: When we get bogged down in a symbol of a
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Speaker 8: one versus three, we're not having a real conversation when
27:07
Speaker 8: whether you're born in Australia or you're a new Australian,
27:10
Speaker 8: we should be making it very clear as part of
27:12
Speaker 8: the narrative of the country, our civic rituals and what
27:16
Speaker 8: we expect to be educated of the next generation of Australians.
27:19
Speaker 8: Some pretty basic ideals, the importance of love of country,
27:23
Speaker 8: of course, making sure a society built on respect and tolerance.
27:27
Speaker 8: But then through our economic institution you do ensuring the
27:30
Speaker 8: hard work was sure Well, I think we I can
27:33
Speaker 8: go through each one of them if you want. As
27:35
Speaker 8: I said the speech at Tim Wilson MP dot com
27:37
Speaker 8: dot au, I talk specifically about the need that we
27:40
Speaker 8: need a national story for our country. We don't really
27:43
Speaker 8: have one, and that has to be focused on the
27:46
Speaker 8: full story from sixty thousand years ago to the present day,
27:51
Speaker 8: and then you need to build it into the civic
27:52
Speaker 8: rituals of our society. I think we've going to be
27:55
Speaker 8: very open about the idea that we open civic rituals
27:59
Speaker 8: with an acknowledgment to country. At the moment, Well, why
28:02
Speaker 8: aren't we talking about our national unity and our responsibility
28:06
Speaker 8: to each other? I think we need to very clearly
28:09
Speaker 8: have a narrative of our country, which is one land,
28:12
Speaker 8: one people, with one destiny. Rather than talking about what
28:15
Speaker 8: divides us, let's talk about what unites us and breed
28:19
Speaker 8: it into our civic way of life.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, these again sound you know, building a narrative.
28:27
Speaker 1: What is that?
28:28
Speaker 2: What's the process? So, I mean that is vague. I'm
28:31
Speaker 2: talking about you. You know, you dismiss changing from three
28:36
Speaker 2: flags the one flag is purely symbolic. But the point
28:38
Speaker 2: is it's a sign of earnest. It's a sign of earnest.
28:41
Speaker 2: What would you actually do that? People say, Ah, I
28:46
Speaker 2: just understand that completely. I'm on board.
28:50
Speaker 8: I think we're going to have a Well let's let's
28:52
Speaker 8: start with things on the calendar. We start with Australia Day.
28:56
Speaker 8: We go through a debate every year, back and forth
28:58
Speaker 8: about the direction. And I'm only floating this to propose,
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Speaker 8: but maybe we need to start to have a conversation
29:03
Speaker 8: about having some sort of a public vote to.
29:06
Speaker 2: Resolve this and move on.
29:08
Speaker 8: But I do actually think government has a responsibility to
29:11
Speaker 8: build into our civic participation and our civic way of life.
29:15
Speaker 8: So when we get to citizenship ceremonies, what we expect
29:18
Speaker 8: of new Australians is a complete integration into the Australian
29:23
Speaker 8: way of life. And that goes from making sure we've
29:25
Speaker 8: got the proper resources for English language education so people
29:30
Speaker 8: can be full participants in economic and social participation. You
29:33
Speaker 8: then need to go through and build our as part
29:36
Speaker 8: of the education system. But at the moment, Andrew, we're
29:39
Speaker 8: not even investing in a story for Australia that we
29:43
Speaker 8: can all tell. We have a left wing view, which
29:47
Speaker 8: is sixty thousand years to seventeen eighty eight, then we
29:49
Speaker 8: skip to about nineteen fifty eight. We need a continuum
29:52
Speaker 8: which recognizes the full history of our country. It needs
29:56
Speaker 8: to be taught in our schools. It then needs to
29:58
Speaker 8: go through and be put into our c institutions, and
30:02
Speaker 8: we shouldn't be afraid to oblige every Australian to understand
30:06
Speaker 8: that and to align with a national anthem, with with
30:11
Speaker 8: I said, citizenship ceremonies as well, and wherever we can
30:13
Speaker 8: see an opportunity to do so, including in this nation's parliament.
30:18
Speaker 8: Because these things.
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Speaker 2: Aren't I'm thinking they have to be rhythmic. Yeah, I'm
30:23
Speaker 2: just not hearing the cut through you do with Pauline Hansen. Yeah, well,
30:28
Speaker 2: I know, but you can't force people to go to church.
30:30
Speaker 2: You can't force the thing, the national anthem. They can say,
30:33
Speaker 2: oh yeah, we first subscribe to your values. Do they
30:36
Speaker 2: actually mean it? What do you do if they don't?
30:38
Speaker 2: This is the whole thing. I mean. I think when
30:41
Speaker 2: you decribe this symbolism and you actually suggest the referendum
30:47
Speaker 2: on Australia Day, I'm not seeing the cut through that
30:51
Speaker 2: the liberals need. Well.
30:54
Speaker 8: Firstly, Pauline always has simplistic solutions to problems, but not
30:59
Speaker 8: long term one to make sure that new Australians have
31:03
Speaker 8: a pathway. There's no flick the switch solution. We need
31:07
Speaker 8: to rhythmically do things as part of the Australian way
31:10
Speaker 8: of life. And it's going to take a significant period
31:12
Speaker 8: of time because frankly, I think we've as a nation
31:14
Speaker 8: been sloppy about a lot of these issues. We assume
31:17
Speaker 8: that people want to come in here and automatically always
31:21
Speaker 8: want to fully integrate into the Australian way of life.
31:24
Speaker 8: I think people are starting to question that, and that's
31:26
Speaker 8: why we've got to be robust and insertive about it,
31:29
Speaker 8: and we've got to keep it going because there is
31:32
Speaker 8: no flick the switch solution, Andrew, there.
31:38
Speaker 2: Isn't, but there are some things you could do that
31:40
Speaker 2: really show. Like I say, you really mean it. You
31:43
Speaker 2: are in earnest but Tim Wilson appreciate you actually at
31:47
Speaker 2: least raising the issue and urge people like you suggest
31:50
Speaker 2: the going see your speech online. Tim Wilson, thank you
31:53
Speaker 2: so much.
31:54
Speaker 1: For your time. Thanks Andrew.
32:01
Speaker 2: After the break the Great super Bowl controversy? Why was
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Speaker 2: the half time entertainment that America's sporting and cultural event.
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Speaker 2: It's the biggest of the year In Spanish, Donald Trump
32:11
Speaker 2: hits the roof controversy in America's super Bowl today and
32:20
Speaker 2: a sign of multicultural decline. The super Bowl is not
32:24
Speaker 2: just the biggest sports event in America, but a great
32:25
Speaker 2: American cultural event, and the culture comes in the halftime entertainment. Especially.
32:31
Speaker 2: This year's halftime act was a performance by multiple Grammy
32:34
Speaker 2: Award rapper Bad Bunny from Puerto Rico and singing entirely
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Speaker 2: in Spanish. That means most Americans watching this iconic event
32:45
Speaker 2: had no idea what he was saying.
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Speaker 13: Hi.
33:00
Speaker 2: Yes, the end, Bad Bunny did say God bless America,
33:03
Speaker 2: but then paraded not just the American flag, but the
33:05
Speaker 2: flags of every Latin American country from Mexico to Argentina.
33:10
Speaker 3: God bless America, a hapina ura white barah white boliviamco.
33:28
Speaker 2: Now, by the way, it was an attack on Donald
33:30
Speaker 2: Trump for deporting illegal immigrants, most from South and Central America.
33:35
Speaker 2: Trump hit the roof and posted at the Super Bowl
33:37
Speaker 2: halftime shows is absolutely terrible, one of the worst the ever.
33:40
Speaker 2: Nobody understands a word this guy is saying, and the
33:42
Speaker 2: dancing is disgusting. This show is just a slap in
33:45
Speaker 2: the face to our country. And five million Americans agreed
33:49
Speaker 2: enough to tune into an alternative halftime entertainment in English
33:52
Speaker 2: on the Turning Point USA website starring singers like Kid Rock,
33:57
Speaker 2: joining Melissa Goddard, former foreign correspondent founder of Adoni Media,
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Speaker 2: asco New's host, The Niko de Georgio Lisa America's top
34:06
Speaker 2: sports events with a halftime acting a language most Americans.
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Speaker 1: Do not know.
34:11
Speaker 2: What does that tell you?
34:12
Speaker 5: Andrew?
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Speaker 10: When I was in the stage as a correspondent, I
34:15
Speaker 10: covered a country how many super Bowls and every Sunday
34:18
Speaker 10: it was about uniting America. It was about Americans coming
34:21
Speaker 10: together and joining Buffalo Wings, maybe some beer and watching
34:24
Speaker 10: the game, and as a reporter, it was about normally
34:27
Speaker 10: covering Alexa. It was years where you know, Jackson had
34:29
Speaker 10: the odd wardrobe malfunction. It was all about the ads,
34:33
Speaker 10: the ads that people were paying ten million dollars or
34:35
Speaker 10: more for for a thirty second slot. Now this year,
34:38
Speaker 10: it wasn't about unifying America and celebrating what unites them.
34:42
Speaker 10: It was about dividing America and showing the world on
34:45
Speaker 10: this world stage what is actually dividing this country and
34:48
Speaker 10: fracturing it. And that's exactly what Adald Trump was responding to.
34:52
Speaker 10: So look, I think it was heartening to see five
34:54
Speaker 10: million people tune out of the Super Bowl and watch
34:58
Speaker 10: that alternative halftime act because it was all about God,
35:01
Speaker 10: it was all about family, it was all about freedom.
35:04
Speaker 10: But it's been rammed down people's throats and I think
35:06
Speaker 10: if you look at the online comments, people are appalled
35:09
Speaker 10: that this is what this day that they celebrate has been.
35:11
Speaker 2: Turned to the nigga. It's really quite crazy. It's like,
35:17
Speaker 2: you know the mcg half time entertainment being entirely in
35:20
Speaker 2: Hindi or Chinese.
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Speaker 4: Well, absolutely, firstly, off the bat Andrew, who the heck
35:24
Speaker 4: is bad? Bunny Okay, I had never heard of this
35:26
Speaker 4: bloke up until a week ago when he accepted his
35:29
Speaker 4: award at the Grammys and again made it a political
35:31
Speaker 4: statement when he said ice out beyond that, I don't
35:34
Speaker 4: know who he is and whatever happened to good halftime
35:37
Speaker 4: entertainment like Prince and the Rolling Stones those days of God.
35:40
Speaker 4: But you asked the question, I mean, what does this
35:42
Speaker 4: tell you? Well, it tells me that the Left are
35:44
Speaker 4: once again trying to project and project their victim, narrow,
35:47
Speaker 4: narrow victimhood on everybody, tying themselves in knots of guilt
35:52
Speaker 4: over what, trying to make you feel bad so that
35:55
Speaker 4: they feel better about themselves so that they can sleep
35:57
Speaker 4: at night. What event have they not hijacked? And don't
36:00
Speaker 4: forget it's happening here in Australia. You can't go to
36:02
Speaker 4: a sporting event without a welcome to country and a lecture.
36:05
Speaker 4: Remember a couple of years ago at one of the
36:07
Speaker 4: AFL Games, the man giving a welcome to country also
36:10
Speaker 4: told us that the ceremonies had been around since two
36:13
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand BC before Cook. You know, we
36:16
Speaker 4: don't go to these events for a political lecture. We
36:20
Speaker 4: go to relax, we go to enjoy it, but the
36:23
Speaker 4: left hijacket and I would actually say, Andrew, the majority
36:26
Speaker 4: of US tune out now to the nonsense.
36:31
Speaker 2: Well, not this time, not with the super Bowl. In fact,
36:34
Speaker 2: a lot of people are very upset. But talking about
36:37
Speaker 2: upset people, Lisa, people protesting at the visit of Israel's
36:41
Speaker 2: president today, falsely accusing him of inciting genocide. I've shown
36:46
Speaker 2: him my columns in the Newscore papers today that that
36:48
Speaker 2: claim is an outright lie. But isn't this the kind
36:51
Speaker 2: of hysterical anti Israel hatred I thought the Bondo massacred
36:57
Speaker 2: taught us is so dangerous.
36:59
Speaker 10: Yea, Andrew, If you look at what's happening on the
37:01
Speaker 10: streets now. I just checked the news a moment before
37:03
Speaker 10: we came on air. There's now a standoff between police
37:06
Speaker 10: and the protesters because they're down there wanting to push
37:09
Speaker 10: out and go beyond the area where they're allowed to protest,
37:11
Speaker 10: and push that march out into the city. They're not
37:14
Speaker 10: interested in democracy, they're not interested in freedoms. It doesn't
37:18
Speaker 10: matter if it's Australia, if it's Palestine, if it's the US.
37:21
Speaker 10: All they're trying to do is make a point and
37:24
Speaker 10: be heard and disrupt this city.
37:26
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
37:27
Speaker 10: The person that summed it up best was an activist
37:29
Speaker 10: who was speaking in Melbourne. I want to quote, I'm
37:31
Speaker 10: direct when you come out. Remember, we are not fighting
37:34
Speaker 10: for Palestine. Palestine is not just a place. And this
37:37
Speaker 10: is the point. It is an idea. It is a dream,
37:40
Speaker 10: a dream where every single one of us is equal,
37:42
Speaker 10: no racism, no destruction. We will not be cowered in silence.
37:46
Speaker 10: And that goes to your point. It's not about fighting
37:48
Speaker 10: for Palestine, it's not about fighting for anything other than
37:51
Speaker 10: trying to fight against democracy.
37:56
Speaker 2: That is just Yeah, that just such a disengage with
38:00
Speaker 2: the reality of what those areas are like. I mean,
38:03
Speaker 2: it's incredible Hamas rules Gaza because it shot dead a
38:08
Speaker 2: number of Fatah, the rival FATA group members there, and
38:12
Speaker 2: it rules by the gun. I mean, so much for
38:14
Speaker 2: freedom and we're all equal. But Lisa, they're attached to
38:19
Speaker 2: Danika on something there wasn't in fact in New South Wales.
38:22
Speaker 2: I think Supreme Court ruling or court ruling that the
38:26
Speaker 2: protesters had to stay away from sensitive parts of Sydney
38:32
Speaker 2: to still protests, but they couldn't get it right in
38:35
Speaker 2: the face of people, or too close to where the
38:37
Speaker 2: president was. The key protest organizer who challenged these protest
38:42
Speaker 2: laws in court is professional protests that Josh Lee's, who
38:46
Speaker 2: was in fact that Marxists, who's even praised the Bolshevik
38:49
Speaker 2: revolution that imposed dictatorship on Russia. And to go to
38:53
Speaker 2: Lisa's point, people like him do make me suspect that
38:57
Speaker 2: the real target is not Israel but all free, democratic
39:02
Speaker 2: and capitalist countries like our own.
39:06
Speaker 4: I completely agree. It's people like him Andrew who are
39:10
Speaker 4: anti Australia, the anti the West, the anti ad democratic values.
39:14
Speaker 4: They are anti our values in general. They don't love
39:17
Speaker 4: and respect this country because what they're doing is showing
39:20
Speaker 4: complete contempt at every single corner. And the thing is
39:25
Speaker 4: that Donald Trump's actually brought peace to the Middle East.
39:28
Speaker 4: But it's people like Josh Lees who are continuing this
39:31
Speaker 4: pro Palestine movement, which suggests to me that they don't
39:35
Speaker 4: want peace in the Middle East. They don't want Israel
39:39
Speaker 4: to be able to live by itself, to live in peace,
39:42
Speaker 4: to live in freedom. And the other thing that really
39:44
Speaker 4: bothers me is where are people like Josh Le's on Iran?
39:49
Speaker 4: Why isn't he speaking about the atrocities going on there
39:51
Speaker 4: right now or on hermus or what China is doing
39:54
Speaker 4: or Russia for example. It is an anti West movement
39:59
Speaker 4: that we are seeing crop up time and time again,
40:02
Speaker 4: and I would say that Josh Lees is a repeat offender.
40:07
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a point there, Lisa, because the
40:10
Speaker 2: art of democracy is to settle disagreements peacefully with a vote.
40:16
Speaker 2: We're seeing here an attempt to de legitimates not just Israel,
40:20
Speaker 2: but the Australian state by Josh Lees and his crony's
40:26
Speaker 2: challenging these Oh, you're against their right to free speech
40:29
Speaker 2: by preventing us from marching over there instead of holding
40:32
Speaker 2: the rally here, they now are doing this confrontation that
40:35
Speaker 2: you've just mentioned. I mean, the whole idea is the
40:38
Speaker 2: paint Australia as anti free speech and repressive and the
40:42
Speaker 2: police's agents of repression. It seems to me so I
40:46
Speaker 2: do think that Israel's struggle is our own, and these
40:49
Speaker 2: protesters are drawing that link very clearly for us exactly.
40:53
Speaker 10: And it was what the President said today that this
40:55
Speaker 10: is not just an attack on the Jewish community, this
40:57
Speaker 10: is an attack on all Australians and we need to
40:59
Speaker 10: wake up. And this is what I found really interesting
41:01
Speaker 10: among the crowd down there in Sydney today not far
41:04
Speaker 10: from here. You've felt Grace Tame Andrew. So Grace Tame
41:07
Speaker 10: is there talking to the crowd, and here is what
41:09
Speaker 10: she said. She basically wants people to go out and
41:11
Speaker 10: mobilize your friends, mobilize your family, have them there at
41:14
Speaker 10: the next protest. And then then she said globalize the Interfada. Now,
41:18
Speaker 10: if she was standing in Queensland later this week, after
41:21
Speaker 10: the Queensland government actually has some courage and passes the
41:24
Speaker 10: law which says you can't show terror symbols, you can't
41:27
Speaker 10: use phrases like that, she could be facing up to
41:29
Speaker 10: two years jail, but not the case here in New
41:31
Speaker 10: South Wales. So there you go, former Australian of the
41:33
Speaker 10: Year down there in inciting that sort of anger.
41:38
Speaker 2: Well, I thought at the time, what fool made her
41:40
Speaker 2: Australian the Year? What fool did that? I mean, honestly,
41:44
Speaker 2: Alisa got denikin de Georgio. Thank you very much to
41:47
Speaker 2: you both. After the break the Epstein files, that costs
41:52
Speaker 2: the key figure this job. Yes, Grace Tame is reported
42:00
Speaker 2: to be leading chance in Sydney of globalized The interfarda
42:05
Speaker 2: globalized intofada is actually a call interpreted by many people
42:10
Speaker 2: as a call for a form of warfare. The Interfarda
42:13
Speaker 2: was a warfare launched by Palestinian terrorists who kill Jews.
42:20
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's just extraordinary, just extraordinary. Meanwhile, the
42:25
Speaker 2: Epstein files have claimed a victim, but it's only a
42:28
Speaker 2: sacrificial lamb to actually save the hide of Britain's Prime
42:32
Speaker 2: minister is Starmer is under a huge pressure to quit
42:35
Speaker 2: after you ignored a mountain of evidence that Labour campaign
42:39
Speaker 2: genius Lord Peter Mandelsson is shown in the Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 2: Files in Epstein's home in his underwear that he was
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Speaker 2: actually far too close to the convicted pedophile and actually
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Speaker 2: and some still appointed Mandlesson as ambassador to the US.
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Speaker 2: Now the Epstein files record matters of feeding Epstein inside information.
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Speaker 2: He denies the allegations, but instead of taking the blame
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Speaker 2: for appointing a dirty mate to such a powerful job,
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Speaker 2: Stamer's effectively sacked as chief of staff. Morgan McSweeney religiedly
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Speaker 2: persuading him to how Manderson as top Nipo Mats of
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Speaker 2: the US joinally from London, is our Monday regular talk
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Speaker 2: TV host Samara Gill. Samara, great to see you. Why
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Speaker 2: is McSweeney sacked when it's actually his boss, Keith Stammer
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Speaker 2: himself who made the call to Hi. Peter Mandelssohn, Well.
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Speaker 13: It's great to be on Andrew. Look, most of the
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Speaker 13: Australian audience basically must be thinking, who is this guy,
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Speaker 13: Morgan McSweeney. He sort of sounds like a deck hand
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Speaker 13: on a pirate ship or something, and that's because he
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Speaker 13: kind of is. Actually, he's basically the guy with the
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Speaker 13: funny Irish name that was literally in charge of the
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Speaker 13: country for the past couple of years. He was the
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Speaker 13: force behind Starmer, advising him on every single move that
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Speaker 13: he did. Now people in Westminster call him a sort
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Speaker 13: of political genius. The fact that he has been making
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Speaker 13: the decisions that have plummeted our country, the UK into
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Speaker 13: the disarray that it now is, does make me think, no,
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Speaker 13: he's not a political genius.
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Speaker 7: But you're right.
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Speaker 13: I think you know, he was almost the Dick Cheney
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Speaker 13: to the Bush junior in this situation. The issue here
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Speaker 13: is that Mandalson is someone who completely shepherded McSweeney into
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Speaker 13: his position of power, fostered him into the very high
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Speaker 13: ranks of labor, and in my opinion, that kind of
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Speaker 13: made people, or basically McSweeney, think that Mandalson would be
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Speaker 13: a good slot for the ambassador to the US. Now,
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Speaker 13: obviously they basically went above security clearances to put Mandalson
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Speaker 13: in this position. And you're right, I think Starmer is
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Speaker 13: acting like a bit of a dictator here by making
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Speaker 13: his own aide who put him in this position of power,
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Speaker 13: fall on his own sword.
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Speaker 2: The full guy. This is a Keith Stammer blaming his
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Speaker 2: staff when Samara he once posed this was exactly what
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Speaker 2: he would never do.
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Speaker 7: Here is and when they made mistakes, I carried the
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Speaker 7: can I never turn on my staff and you should
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Speaker 7: never turn on your stafft.
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Speaker 2: Hypocrit will sett In. Sweeney actually stopped Stammer from being
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Speaker 2: sacked himself those labor colleagues.
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Speaker 13: You know, I was down in Hastings on Thursday with
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Speaker 13: Keir Starmer kind of following him in my political journalist
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Speaker 13: capacity over at talk and he seemed absolutely enraged. This
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Speaker 13: is the first time he'd come out since the whole
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Speaker 13: mandelssonh scandal, and you know, the whole speech was punctuated
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Speaker 13: by Mandelssohn and the sort of this. He was called
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Speaker 13: the Prince of darkness and he was casting his shadow
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Speaker 13: over that day. He seemed more, as I said, dictatorial
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Speaker 13: in the way that he was upset with what Mandalsson
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Speaker 13: has done. Kirs Darmer is someone who will grab onto
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Speaker 13: power and do whatever he can to hold on to it.
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Speaker 13: He didn't let someone called Andy Burnham who was wanting
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Speaker 13: to challenge his leadership. He's a mayor, so he didn't
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Speaker 13: let him then run for parliament. He blocked that. He
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Speaker 13: got rid of Angela Rayner, who was a very strong
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Speaker 13: contender to usurp him. This is someone who was almost
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Speaker 13: like a rap backed into the corner, who was just
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Speaker 13: sort of with his beady eyes looking at anyone to
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Speaker 13: throw in his direction under the bus. So I really
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Speaker 13: don't think Starma is acting with clarity. We are on
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Speaker 13: resignation watch over here. But he said yesterday that he
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Speaker 13: would go and do a speech at Number ten, and
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Speaker 13: then you turned on that within an hour and then
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Speaker 13: we were getting reports from Number ten that he wasn't
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Speaker 13: going to do. So this is someone with absolutely no backbone,
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Speaker 13: no conviction. I mean, can you imagine Churchill saying yes,
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Speaker 13: I'm going to address the nation and then cowering it
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Speaker 13: to his corner. I don't think so we've totally fallen
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Speaker 13: from grace.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, Well, if you're a resignation, watch I mean there
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Speaker 2: are a number of his colleagues actually openly briefing the
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Speaker 2: media that, oh, this is terrible, this is good, this
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Speaker 2: is shocking. You should be going. If Kirstamer is stamped
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Speaker 2: as British Prime Minister, who will take over?
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Speaker 13: It's a great question. A lot of people are saying
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Speaker 13: that our Home Secretary Shabanama Mood, who actually has presided
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Speaker 13: over sixty thousand deportations under her sort of her residency
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Speaker 13: in that position, might take over. But she did swear
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Speaker 13: her name on the Koran. She is a devout Muslim,
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Speaker 13: which is no issue, but it might be an issue
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Speaker 13: for some of the elector and some of the voters
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Speaker 13: in the United Kingdom who are fearing and is a
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Speaker 13: so called Islamic takeover, So her faith may be a
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Speaker 13: problem in her sort of her bid for the leadership.
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Speaker 13: Angela Rainer was spotted yesterday getting a fresh blow dry
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Speaker 13: and getting her hair done at a hairdresser who very
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Speaker 13: innocently posted it on Instagram, and now everyone's saying that
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Speaker 13: she might be the contender. She's obviously got a very
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Speaker 13: sort of big axe to grind for Starmer, who sanctimoniously
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Speaker 13: did get rid of her because of a tax affair.
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Speaker 13: But then there's also Wes Streeting, who would be the
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Speaker 13: first gay prime Minister if he was elected into powers.
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Speaker 13: So there are quite a few, but the resignation of
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Speaker 13: McSweeney signifies a lot more about the actual movement of labor.
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Speaker 13: He was the one who was always trying to put
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Speaker 13: labor into the middle ground. What we now I think
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Speaker 13: are going to get is actually worse, which is a
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Speaker 13: far left labor, which is something the country doesn't need
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Speaker 13: right now.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Samara, thank you so much for your time. Thank
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Speaker 2: you up next, Sherry Mason. Good night,