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BRIDE IN WEDDING DRESS DEAD, SOBBING BRAT-KILLER WHINES ON VIDEO · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a bride in her wedding dress,
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Speaker 1: still in her wedding dress mode, down dead dead. She
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Speaker 1: didn't even get to the honeymoon mode, down dead in
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Speaker 1: her wedding dress. Tonight, the sobbing, sniveling, snotting brat killer
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Speaker 1: caught whining again on video.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 3: I want to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 4: I don't think I'm a threat to society.
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Speaker 5: Well, I want to know when the.
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Speaker 4: Puck I'm gonna get my coloring control to fear.
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Speaker 6: I'm not.
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Speaker 7: Can I have a tissue? I can't get you one
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Speaker 7: at the moment. I have to be in here for
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Speaker 7: the time being. When my surgeon gets here, I can
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Speaker 7: go grab you a tissue.
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Speaker 8: I'll just keep picking my person. I would like the
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Speaker 8: right to call my father. Okay, well I would like
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Speaker 8: to do it right now. Do I not have that right?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 9: You do not.
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Speaker 7: Why it's not a law that you have to sit
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Speaker 7: there and have a phone call right now. I would
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Speaker 7: like to call my dad right now.
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Speaker 10: Fortun Why we've already explained it to you, Like I said,
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Speaker 10: right now, We're gonna wait.
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Speaker 7: Sorry, just gonna get here. We're gonna go through some things.
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Speaker 7: I would like to call someone right Okay, would you
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Speaker 7: sit and wait right now? Why can I not call
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Speaker 7: someone right now because we don't have a phone for it?
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Speaker 1: Oh how I want to put her on cross examination
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Speaker 1: with me an all star panel. But I want you
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Speaker 1: to understand what happened to the victim in this case
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Speaker 1: joining us. You know her well, Vanessa Walsh. She is
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Speaker 1: the star of Unmasked True Crime. Vanessa.
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Speaker 2: I just want you to hear one.
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Speaker 1: More tiny tidbit before I go to Troy Slayton about
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Speaker 1: a client that threatens to flick her boogers at the cop.
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Speaker 1: And this is right after she mows down a young woman, gorgeous,
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Speaker 1: young bright. Let me see a picture of the bride place,
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Speaker 1: especially that with the little lights around her in the
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Speaker 1: groom when they're walking down. She's dead and he has
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Speaker 1: had to undergo multiple surgeries just so he can walk
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Speaker 1: and move thanks to Jamie Kamarowski, Jamie Lee Kamarowski, a
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Speaker 1: name I will never forget. Oh there, she is not
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Speaker 1: a care in the world, mugging for the camera. Speaking
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Speaker 1: of mug you should see that mugshot anyway, forget about
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Speaker 1: her to Vanessa Walsh, star of unmastered true crime, who
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Speaker 1: surged to the forefront of national conscious when Lynette Hooker
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Speaker 1: went missing in the Bahamas. Oh, by the way, her
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Speaker 1: body still hasn't been found. That said, back to this case,
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Speaker 1: what happened to the bride?
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Speaker 9: So Nancy Samantha Miller and Aaron Hutchins and Eric Hutchinson
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Speaker 9: had just gotten.
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Speaker 11: Married hours before this.
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Speaker 9: They were leaving their reception around ten pm, and as
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Speaker 9: you mentioned, Samantha was still wearing her wedding dress. So
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Speaker 9: the newly married couple and two other family members a
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Speaker 9: daughter of a golf park to go back to their airbnb,
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Speaker 9: and as they were en route, twenty five year old
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Speaker 9: Jamie Kamowski came flying down the road at sixty five
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Speaker 9: miles an hour in a twenty five mile an hour
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Speaker 9: zone and slammed into the back of their vehicle.
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Speaker 4: They did the Sparkler exit where everybody lines up in
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Speaker 4: likes Sparklers and they go underneath. She was the happiest
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Speaker 4: I've ever seen her in her life. They got on
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Speaker 4: the golf cart. They left ten minutes later. We went
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Speaker 4: to our airbnb which was before there, so they were
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Speaker 4: still traveling, I started hearing sirens and literally I looked
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Speaker 4: at my daughter and I said, something happened to Sam.
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Speaker 4: I knew something that happened to Sam. I called Sam
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Speaker 4: and apologized calling her on her wedding night, but she'd
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Speaker 4: called me back and let me know she was okay.
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Speaker 4: And then the family member said, get in the truck,
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Speaker 4: and so me and my daughter got in the truck
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Speaker 4: and she took us to the scene, which was maybe
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Speaker 4: a mile away, not even two blocks from where they
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Speaker 4: were going to stay. Me and my daughter got out
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Speaker 4: of the truck and just started running hand in hand
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Speaker 4: towards the scene and just screaming, Sam Tam Tam. Her
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Speaker 4: dad was there and my son waiting at the scene
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Speaker 4: and trying to figure out what was going on. And
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Speaker 4: we were told by somebody I don't know who that
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Speaker 4: everybody had been taken to the hospital, and so my
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Speaker 4: daughter and I went to the hospital. We were told
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Speaker 4: that because they didn't have ID that for now, everybody
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Speaker 4: was Jane Doe and they couldn't say anything or whether
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Speaker 4: Sam was there or Eric or anything. So that was
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Speaker 4: a really long wait, and then Sam's dad called and
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Speaker 4: told me that Samantha wasn't at the hospital, that he
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Speaker 4: had just identified her by her tattoo and she was
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Speaker 4: still at the scene, and that she had been killed.
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Speaker 4: And the daughter gets plowed down by a drunk driver
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Speaker 4: on her wedding night, in her wedding dress. I don't
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Speaker 4: think anything can be any worse.
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Speaker 1: That is Sam's mother, Lisa Miller speaking to me. When
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Speaker 1: I hear her say, Dave Matt joining US Crime Stories
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter, how she and the husband were just running running,
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Speaker 1: She and her other daughter were running, screaming Sam, Sam, Sam,
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Speaker 1: holding hands, that they couldn't get there fast enough. Those moments,
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Speaker 1: Dave mac where you're desperately looking for your child, the
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Speaker 1: child that you bore, the child that you carried in
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Speaker 1: your stomach, the one you dreamed about, the one you
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Speaker 1: loved her whole life, culminating in what should have been
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Speaker 1: the happiest day of all of their lives.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know about you, Dave.
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Speaker 1: You've got children, but when a good thing happens to them,
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Speaker 1: it makes me happier than anything good that's ever happened
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Speaker 1: to me. And here is the mom holding the other
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Speaker 1: daughter's hand, and they're running, they're running and they've heard
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Speaker 1: sirens and they can't find Sam.
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Speaker 2: I just that description just pushes me over the edge.
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Speaker 2: And then Sam Samantha.
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Speaker 1: Was so disfigured they had to identify her by her tattoo,
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Speaker 1: Dave mac and then this little bee is behind bars whining.
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Speaker 12: It breaks your heart when you realize that there was
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Speaker 12: even though it was catastrophic, Nancy. And as you mentioned,
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Speaker 12: mom and sister running, you know, hand in hand, running
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Speaker 12: to the scene. Because it didn't happen far from where
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Speaker 12: they had just been married. He realized that at five
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Speaker 12: o'clock that afternoon they got married. Family from all over
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Speaker 12: at Folly Beach, South Carolina celebrating this moment. Everybody loved
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Speaker 12: Samantha and Eric. And here they go on their you know,
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Speaker 12: street legal golf cart. All they got to do is
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Speaker 12: go a couple blocks down the road parallel to the ocean,
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Speaker 12: and they hear the sirens and they run to the scene.
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Speaker 12: You know, Nancy, the impact of this accident was so
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Speaker 12: severe because Kamarowski was going sixty five miles an hour
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Speaker 12: in this twenty five mile an hour zone and slammed
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Speaker 12: into the back of the golf cart and propelled it.
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Speaker 12: That's the word used in the police report, propelled this
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Speaker 12: golf cart seventy five yards to one hundred yards, propelled
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Speaker 12: it in the air and rolling over and over and over.
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Speaker 12: The catastrophic trauma to Sam Miller in her wedding dress
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Speaker 12: on her wedding night, it goes beyond anything any parent
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Speaker 12: or any family or friend could ever imagine. And the
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Speaker 12: thought that the family was hoping, believe it or not,
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Speaker 12: hoping they were going to go to the hospital and
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Speaker 12: finding out No, Sam's not at the hospital.
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Speaker 13: The night of the accident on Fowley Beach, Jamie Komorowski's
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Speaker 13: hold officers on the scene that she was headed home
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Speaker 13: when something hit her. The problem with that is her
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Speaker 13: home was in the opposite direction. Komorowski lawyered up and
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Speaker 13: spent time in county jail until bond could be arranged.
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Speaker 13: A daughter of some privilege, Komorowski has been free on
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Speaker 13: bond since March first of twenty twenty four, when South
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Speaker 13: Carolina Circuit Court Judge Michael Nettles granted her a one
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Speaker 13: hundred and fifty thousand dollars surety bond and all of
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Speaker 13: the charges filed against her.
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Speaker 1: To make matters worse, Jamie Lee Komorowski, Mike Gould joining me.
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Speaker 1: Former Nasau County lieutenant, founding member of the New York
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Speaker 1: Police Department Canine Unit, president of Houndstown Charity, led multiple
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Speaker 1: investigations into missing peopled serial killers, former National Guard, and
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Speaker 1: worked on the Secret Service detail for not one but
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Speaker 1: two presidents. You know, I know this doesn't change the
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Speaker 1: facts at all, but it rubs salt into the wound
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Speaker 1: that she is such a spoiled brat.
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Speaker 2: I'm you know what. Wait wait, Mike, listen to this.
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Speaker 7: Can I have a phone so I call my dad? Please? Why?
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Speaker 7: Why are you being so mean to me? No one
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Speaker 7: proved me first for anything. Stop you're a grown adult
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Speaker 7: and you're crying on camera. Stop Hello, hi camera.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm crying because he's not letting me call my father,
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Speaker 14: even though they haven't proven and don't have any right
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Speaker 14: for me not to be able to contact my family
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Speaker 14: or anyone that I want to.
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Speaker 7: So yeah, hello, I'm crying. Ooh, I'm being just a
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Speaker 7: little baby. Oh stop yeah, stop.
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Speaker 1: Mike Gold, see what I'm talking about? Do you see
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Speaker 1: that spoiled brat? I've got so much A video that's
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Speaker 1: even worse of her whining and threatening to flick boggers
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Speaker 1: at the cop. I mean, it's just the sniveling, the entitlement.
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Speaker 1: When I think about what happened to Samantha and her fiance,
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Speaker 1: you think he's ever going to ever get over that.
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Speaker 15: No, Nancy, of course not.
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Speaker 16: But sadly, I will tell you I've sat in that
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Speaker 16: arrest processing room with hundreds of drunken drivers that committed
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Speaker 16: horrendous accidents. But it goes across the board pre soccerman's lawyers, cops, firemen.
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Speaker 15: So it's not a traditional crime of opportunity where we steal.
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Speaker 15: I've seen that. I've been on the.
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Speaker 16: Other side of this, where I had to listen to
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Speaker 16: somebody like her harass me for the two or three
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Speaker 16: hour arrest processing until they started to sober up.
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Speaker 15: When they sobered up, either they were remorseful or they
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Speaker 15: don't even remember they were blacked out drunk. In this case,
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Speaker 15: she's never acknowledged her crime. She is the only one
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Speaker 15: responsible for putting alcohol in her body. But with that said,
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Speaker 15: seventy three percent, seventy five percent of us have been
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Speaker 15: to weddings, sporting events, and we've witnessed these things. We've
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Speaker 15: witnessed people we know there's unlimited alcohol, and we witness
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Speaker 15: people that we know they're doing the chicken dance at
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Speaker 15: the wedding. They weren't like that when they walked into
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Speaker 15: sit down. So it's a societal problem. And I will
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Speaker 15: tell you soon.
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Speaker 2: Put him up. What are you saying? First of all,
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Speaker 2: are you okay? I'm fine?
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Speaker 1: You're fine right? Because you feel it fine. You seem
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Speaker 1: to have your wits about you. I mean, I'm not
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Speaker 1: a shrink. But did you just say this is a
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Speaker 1: societal problem. It's the bride's family's fault because they had.
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Speaker 2: The food and booze and punch at the wedding.
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Speaker 1: Hey, she wasn't at the reception doing the chicken dance
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Speaker 1: and drinking too much.
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Speaker 2: It's not a societal problem. It's a her problem. It's
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Speaker 2: not because somebody throws a party. It's not their fault.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear one more word about how
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Speaker 1: this is society's fault.
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Speaker 2: Not one. Would you like to do a redo?
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Speaker 1: I do?
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Speaker 17: It's number one.
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Speaker 10: I'm completely fine.
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Speaker 15: I'm sober.
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Speaker 16: I haven't had a taste of alcohol in thirty two
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Speaker 16: years because I've been witnessed to all of these things.
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Speaker 15: So when I say a societal problem, since this incident,
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Speaker 15: thirty thousand people have been killed by drunk drivers. Just
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Speaker 15: since this incident occurred, thirty thousand people. She is guilty
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Speaker 15: of sin. There is no doubt about that. There's no
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Speaker 15: question in my mind. It's heart wrenching.
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Speaker 16: Nancy and I pulled body parts of people out of
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Speaker 16: cars that were killed by drunk drivers.
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Speaker 15: So I am totally sober. I am totally understand what happening.
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Speaker 16: But when I say a societal problem, tell me what's
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Speaker 16: improved since this accident occurred.
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Speaker 1: Well, nothing has improved, but I can tell you this much.
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Speaker 1: Her sentence should be enhanced, and the families of these
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Speaker 1: two victims should get some type of comfort and solace
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Speaker 1: knowing that justice has been obtained as much as it
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Speaker 1: can be, because nothing can bring some.
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Speaker 11: Bath crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: The whining, and the entitlement.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a shrink to talk about entitlement started
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Speaker 1: immediately listen to this.
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Speaker 5: I'm glad you call said.
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Speaker 9: I just thought of that, but.
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Speaker 5: I just don't know how that happen to me, Because
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Speaker 5: bad things happen to good people, honey, That's why it's
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Speaker 5: just it's just fa It's just something that happened to you.
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Speaker 5: And we are going to deal with the best week
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Speaker 5: cat today. And it was a golf car.
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Speaker 11: I know, Honey, we know, honey cat going to be
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Speaker 11: on the.
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Speaker 15: Freaking road that this couldn't happen to anyone?
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Speaker 5: Like why me?
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Speaker 7: Like why we are?
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Speaker 4: Why?
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Speaker 15: Meaning I don't understand like this could have happened to
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Speaker 15: so many other people.
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Speaker 18: Okay, well, okay, here's my thing.
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Speaker 5: Here's my thing.
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Speaker 4: That's not their cat.
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Speaker 9: That's my cat.
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Speaker 4: Hang on, you need a reality check real quick right now.
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Speaker 19: Girl, that's not your cat right now.
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Speaker 4: Because you left that cat and then unfortunate situation and
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Speaker 4: they're taking care of the cat.
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Speaker 15: Now.
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Speaker 4: No, that's Jillian, that's my cat. I'm not going to
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Speaker 4: be in here forever. I'm getting I'm going to be
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Speaker 4: like a couple of months, but.
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Speaker 19: Then I'm going to be back home.
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Speaker 1: Troy Slayton, I'm almost speechless joining us tonight. Troy Slayton.
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Speaker 1: He's coming out of the LA jurisdiction. Never a lack
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Speaker 1: of business there. He is also a certified Standardized Field
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Speaker 1: Sobriety test instructor and he has defended many many drunk
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Speaker 1: driving cases. I'd like to point out, what if this
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Speaker 1: were your client, you get to have a big problem
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Speaker 1: with Listen to this. She seems more concerned about her
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Speaker 1: cat and angry somebody else is taking care of her
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Speaker 1: cat and says, I'm going to be back home in
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Speaker 1: a couple of months. Also, golf carts shouldn't even be
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Speaker 1: allowed on the freaking road, So it's somebody else's thought.
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Speaker 1: This is a golf community around a golf course, and
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Speaker 1: she's blaming it on the fact that golf carts are
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Speaker 1: allowed on the street.
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Speaker 2: This could have happened to so many other people.
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Speaker 1: Excuse me, This could have happened to so many other people,
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Speaker 1: so should be fine if it happened to somebody else,
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Speaker 1: not her. I just don't know why bad things happen
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Speaker 1: to me. Did you not hear the description of what
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Speaker 1: happened to Samantha. She was so disfigured they had to
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Speaker 1: id her by a tattoo, on and on. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not a bad person, Yes you are. She is a
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Speaker 1: bad person, and all she thinks about is herself. What
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Speaker 1: do you do with a client like that other than
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Speaker 1: tell them to shut the hay up.
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Speaker 17: It's a super tragedy situation for everybody in this case, Nancy,
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Speaker 17: But a couple things jump out at me immediately. The
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Speaker 17: video that we have of her in the interrogation room
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Speaker 17: immediately following this horrific tragedy is very interesting and very telling.
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Speaker 17: What are the things that we look at when somebody
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Speaker 17: has such an allegedly high blood alcohol level, in this
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Speaker 17: case a point two six, more than three times the
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Speaker 17: legal limit. We'd expect someone to be falling down drunk,
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Speaker 17: to not be able to articulate words, clearly, to be mumbling,
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Speaker 17: and in this situation we hear her clearly speaking the words,
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Speaker 17: having a conversation.
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Speaker 2: What is your point?
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Speaker 17: The point?
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Speaker 1: You are a trained lawyer, right, and you're saying, I
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Speaker 1: think I just heard you say she's clearly speaking words.
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Speaker 2: I know that I just played it. I know she
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Speaker 2: speaking words.
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Speaker 17: What is your point? So the point Nancy here is
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Speaker 17: that the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division sled determined through
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Speaker 17: a forensic forced blood draw because she refused to do
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Speaker 17: a breathalyzer, which is her constitutional right. They got a warrant,
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Speaker 17: they got her blood, and it was a point two six.
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Speaker 17: 't one. The video of her in the police station
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Speaker 17: there is not the video of somebody who's point two
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Speaker 17: six one. It's just not. So there's a disconnect, which.
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Speaker 1: Means, okay, it's like, all right, so here are you
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Speaker 1: trying to say that the blood alcohol was doctor, That's
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Speaker 1: not real.
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Speaker 7: No, no, no.
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Speaker 17: What I'm trying to say is that her blood alcohol
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Speaker 17: level was rising, that her blood alcohol level at the
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Speaker 17: time of the of the accident was not what it
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Speaker 17: was at the time of the blood draw. When you
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Speaker 17: drink alcohol, Nancy, your blood.
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Speaker 1: Out made me feel better. How's that helping anything? That
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Speaker 1: she's even worse than we know she is.
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Speaker 17: No, because what matters is what was her blood alcohol
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Speaker 17: level at the time of the accident, not what it
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Speaker 17: was some hours later at a forensic blood draw. What
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Speaker 17: And so the point, you know what, So the point.
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Speaker 1: You're going on around and around and around, playing ring
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Speaker 1: around the rosie, It doesn't matter she is DUI whether.
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Speaker 2: She's point two six point two, seven point two, five
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Speaker 2: point eight.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you about her miserable response to killing
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Speaker 1: someone and maybe somebody else and destroying the lives of
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Speaker 1: both the families.
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Speaker 2: I don't care she's d ui?
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Speaker 1: Is she?
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Speaker 17: Do you want?
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Speaker 2: Eight point two six don't care.
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Speaker 17: Maybe maybe she was a point oh seven. What if
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Speaker 17: she was a point oh six or point oh five
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Speaker 17: at the time of the accident, but she wasn't blood
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Speaker 17: alcohol Well we don't know because there was no blood drops. Crash.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what do to you know what, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to go to a doctor, a medical doctor to
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Speaker 1: address her BA what alcohol?
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Speaker 2: Because you can argue till you're blue in the face,
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Speaker 2: till the cows come home. Do you even know what
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Speaker 2: that means?
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Speaker 1: Being from La, that means the cows have been out
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Speaker 1: in the pasture all day long and it's getting dark
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Speaker 1: and they finally.
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Speaker 2: Start to come home.
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Speaker 1: You can argue till the cows come home, and it's
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Speaker 1: not going to change the scientific results.
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Speaker 2: I'm hearing him. Please stop my suffering.
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Speaker 1: Thank you to doctor Pria Banerjee joining us out of Providence,
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Speaker 1: Rhode Island, Board certified forensic Pathologists. He's also an anatomic
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Speaker 1: pathologist at Anchor Forensic Pathology, consulting doctor Priya. Isn't it true?
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Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 1: First of all, let's understand choice Slayton is not arguing
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Speaker 1: that there's a voodoo doctor behind a screen that tampered
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Speaker 1: with the evidence. He accepts what the BAC blood alcohol
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Speaker 1: content was when it was drawn. Yep, that said, isn't
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Speaker 1: it true that as time passes your BAC lowers, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't get higher. That's forensically impossible for you to consume
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Speaker 1: more alcohol while you're sitting there and your content go up.
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Speaker 2: No, it dissipates.
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Speaker 10: Well, what he's saying is there is a rise if
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Speaker 10: you just drink and then are pulled over. So it
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Speaker 10: really depends on the time that she drank, but the
22:44
Speaker 10: numbers significant. It's an illegal level, and to me, it
22:48
Speaker 10: doesn't matter whether she's going up or going down. She
22:51
Speaker 10: obviously had alcohol in her system and drove erratically to
22:55
Speaker 10: the point where these people went flying, these innocent people
23:00
Speaker 10: of the golf cart, a legal golf cart. Even despite
23:02
Speaker 10: her argument, right, blah blah blah shouldn't be allowed. I mean,
23:05
Speaker 10: look at the devastation.
23:07
Speaker 7: That to me is.
23:10
Speaker 10: Is should be data enough to show how intoxicated she
23:14
Speaker 10: was and out of control driving.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand what you're saying, doctor Preett. You're
23:19
Speaker 2: stating that.
23:22
Speaker 1: You drink and if you had just finished the alcohol
23:27
Speaker 1: and say ten to fifteen minutes, your BAC is going.
23:30
Speaker 2: To rise because it's going into your system.
23:32
Speaker 19: Is that warpst Yes, it's absorbing.
23:34
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, would you agree that as hours pass,
23:40
Speaker 1: your BAC blood alcohol blood alcohol content lowers.
23:44
Speaker 10: Yeah, it'll equilibrate and then it'll come down, so you'll
23:47
Speaker 10: metabolize it away.
23:48
Speaker 2: All right, got it?
23:50
Speaker 19: So?
23:50
Speaker 2: Yes?
23:53
Speaker 1: Vanessa Waltz joining a star of Unmasked, a true crime
23:58
Speaker 1: the video that we're please show the video.
24:01
Speaker 2: There's so many to pick from of her and her
24:03
Speaker 2: sports bra. Let's just go with that one.
24:05
Speaker 1: By this point, the scene has been cleared, not of
24:13
Speaker 1: the crash itself, but the people have been moved away.
24:16
Speaker 1: Samantha is dead, The fiance is at the hospital getting
24:20
Speaker 1: life saving, life saving surgery. The parents have gone to
24:26
Speaker 1: the hospital, at least one of them. She has been
24:29
Speaker 1: brought in. She's refused one blood I'll call tests.
24:35
Speaker 2: Now.
24:35
Speaker 3: Look at that.
24:36
Speaker 1: She's completely passed out drunk in the car. This is
24:39
Speaker 1: right after the incident. That's in the paddy wagon. There's
24:43
Speaker 1: no question she's drunk. Vanessa Walsh, by this time, at
24:49
Speaker 1: least an hour has passed. Her BAC is at this
24:55
Speaker 1: juncture lowering. We just heard that from doctor pre Yeah,
25:00
Speaker 1: what was her be a seat when it was finally taken.
25:07
Speaker 9: So Nancy Jamie's BAC was a shocking point two six',
25:12
Speaker 9: one which is over three times the legal limit in
25:16
Speaker 9: the state Of South.
25:17
Speaker 1: Carolina joining us, now Doctor Jane. Lacey Doctor, janey thank
25:25
Speaker 1: you for being with. Us licensed, PSYCHOTHERAPIST ceo Of Life Counseling,
25:30
Speaker 1: solutions author Of how To heal from A Toxic, relationship
25:35
Speaker 1: and she is a star.
25:36
Speaker 2: Off let's talk about.
25:37
Speaker 1: It With Janie. Lacy that's on, YouTube Doctor. JANEY i
25:42
Speaker 1: want to show you some. VIDEO i hope you can
25:44
Speaker 1: see it on your. Monitor this is the, defendant the
25:47
Speaker 1: spoil sniveling brat that's threatening to flick her bookers at
25:52
Speaker 1: the cop that.
25:53
Speaker 2: One this is her at a bar just before the.
25:58
Speaker 2: Crash oh there she.
26:01
Speaker 10: Is what is she?
26:03
Speaker 2: Doing oh she's bellying up to the, bar Doctor.
26:08
Speaker 1: Janey people often call these incidents, accidents but in my,
26:14
Speaker 1: world every move she makes is an intentional. Act to
26:19
Speaker 1: order one. Drink, oh she's at her third table of.
26:22
Speaker 1: Drinks order one, drink then the next, drink then the next.
26:25
Speaker 1: Drink then get your, keys then go to your, car
26:28
Speaker 1: then crank it, up shut the, door put it in,
26:30
Speaker 1: reverse put it in, drive go out on the streets.
26:33
Speaker 1: Speed every one of those actions is an intentional. Act
26:37
Speaker 1: this is no, accident Doctor, janey and.
26:40
Speaker 18: We're watching, It, Nancy, right this video tells me this
26:44
Speaker 18: wasn't a one time to speak right that.
26:46
Speaker 19: PROBABLY i don't need to Know jamie to know that When.
26:49
Speaker 18: I'm watching this video or her at the, bar probably
26:51
Speaker 18: was a pattern that finally caught up with.
26:53
Speaker 19: Her bar to, bar drink to. Drink that's not a
26:56
Speaker 19: person having a rough.
26:57
Speaker 18: Night that's someone who has done that exact, thing probably
27:00
Speaker 18: dozens of, time and gotten away with it every single
27:02
Speaker 18: time until the one.
27:04
Speaker 5: Time that she.
27:05
Speaker 18: Didn't and you, know when we look at people who
27:08
Speaker 18: haven't faced consequences enough to change their, behavior that would tell,
27:12
Speaker 18: me you, know whether it's, addiction whatever it may, be
27:15
Speaker 18: that there's.
27:16
Speaker 19: An absence of.
27:16
Speaker 18: Consequences you, know every time she drove, home probably many
27:21
Speaker 18: times before her brain would feel will file that away
27:24
Speaker 18: and say that's proof that it was. Safe and it
27:26
Speaker 18: took this wedding day and two innocent lies for the
27:29
Speaker 18: consequences to finally match the risk that she's probably been
27:32
Speaker 18: taking four.
27:33
Speaker 19: Years, nancy AND i would probably put some.
27:34
Speaker 2: Money on that.
27:35
Speaker 1: ONE i want you to look at this video Of
27:40
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee kamarowski speaking to the, police, demanding, demanding, demanding
27:47
Speaker 1: even talking about her allergy.
27:50
Speaker 15: Problem, yeah you were going to be required for a.
27:55
Speaker 20: Run no, privet no priven no, proven no, proof prove,
28:00
Speaker 20: it no prove. It you said THAT i am under
28:04
Speaker 20: the arrest for driving under the.
28:07
Speaker 8: Enbulance prove.
28:08
Speaker 7: IT i don't have to prove.
28:09
Speaker 11: It prove, it prove, it prove.
28:12
Speaker 15: It you can stop playing.
28:14
Speaker 7: Games, okay can you prove?
28:15
Speaker 8: IT i don't know about you, guys but my allergies
28:18
Speaker 8: have been so bad. Lately this paullen has been killing.
28:25
Speaker 8: ME i would like him to give me the, tissues not, you.
28:32
Speaker 7: Thanks.
28:36
Speaker 21: Already hell, okay oh my?
28:47
Speaker 1: Stars did he just hold the tissue to her nose
28:50
Speaker 1: so she could blow like a one year?
28:53
Speaker 2: Old here you. Go your bookers are so? Precious really DID?
28:59
Speaker 2: I did Doctor janey help? Me help? Me did you hear?
29:04
Speaker 11: That prove? It prove?
29:05
Speaker 2: It, no prove, it no prove.
29:07
Speaker 1: It she knows she didn't give her a blood alcohol
29:09
Speaker 1: she refused to. Test she knows, That so she's, saying
29:12
Speaker 1: you can't prove. It you can't prove it because she
29:15
Speaker 1: knows she hadn't yet taken the. Test some would call
29:19
Speaker 1: her a little. BEE i don't, curs So i'm not
29:22
Speaker 1: gonna say, that and then goes on about my. Allergy
29:26
Speaker 1: he's had been so bad that pollen is killing. Me
29:29
Speaker 1: samantha is disfigured and. Dead the fiance is having rods
29:36
Speaker 1: put up his back and his, legs and she's whining
29:40
Speaker 1: about Her, oh Dear lord In, heaven she's whining about her.
29:44
Speaker 1: Allergies Doctor, Janey you've got to have something in THAT.
29:47
Speaker 1: Dsm what is THE dsm diagnostic? Statistical what?
29:54
Speaker 5: Right it's Our.
29:54
Speaker 19: Manuel BUT i have a lot more to say about
29:56
Speaker 19: what's in that manual that could apply to. Missus jamie
29:59
Speaker 19: here AS i want these, videos you.
30:01
Speaker 18: Know and not even knowing her, history and she just
30:04
Speaker 18: watching all this, footage can it tells me that she
30:08
Speaker 18: has been and this is no excuse at.
30:10
Speaker 7: All has a.
30:12
Speaker 18: Pattern probably in her family and her life of being
30:14
Speaker 18: rescued and shielded from. Consequences and this probably was not
30:19
Speaker 18: developed overnight as her first. Response that's built over years
30:22
Speaker 18: of somebody always showing up and somebody softens the. Landing
30:26
Speaker 18: AND i say that with, compassion not excuse, making because
30:29
Speaker 18: that's all that's often exactly how we raise people who
30:32
Speaker 18: never learned their actions have. Way i'm a, parent BUT
30:35
Speaker 18: i see this as entitlement and this is not an
30:37
Speaker 18: attitude in this Case. Nancy to, me it's probably her track.
30:39
Speaker 18: Record it's what gets built every time someone crosses the
30:43
Speaker 18: line and nothing happens to her every time she drove
30:45
Speaker 18: home too many, dreams got away with, it every time
30:48
Speaker 18: calling dad to solve a problem that is privileged doing
30:52
Speaker 18: exactly what it.
30:53
Speaker 19: Does it doesn't teach you your it teaches your. Invincible
30:56
Speaker 19: and that's what she's doing.
30:57
Speaker 18: Here it teaches your consequences aren't for, you it's for everybody.
31:00
Speaker 18: Else and you can hear that belief in every second
31:03
Speaker 18: of all the footage that we're watching. Today and you
31:06
Speaker 18: know it's, sad but that's not shock talking that someone
31:11
Speaker 18: who has never once had to sit in the discomfort
31:14
Speaker 18: of being held accountable until a bride was dead and
31:18
Speaker 18: there was nowhere left for her to, hide and the
31:21
Speaker 18: victims and that woman's husband who is forever, changed and
31:25
Speaker 18: we're seeing her whining there's NO dsm for.
31:28
Speaker 2: Her what is a narcissistic.
31:32
Speaker 22: Personality when we look at narcissistic personality, disorder we have
31:37
Speaker 22: six characteristics that have to fit into the ACTUAL, dsm
31:41
Speaker 22: and then we have those of.
31:43
Speaker 19: Everyone else that have high narcissistic character.
31:46
Speaker 18: Traits, right without doing any type of through an assessment with,
31:51
Speaker 18: her to actually diagnose her as having narcissistic, personality that
31:55
Speaker 18: would be unethical for. Me but WHAT i would say
31:57
Speaker 18: is that with the footage and the public record that we're,
32:00
Speaker 18: seeing we would see that she has high narcissistic. Traits that,
32:03
Speaker 18: is her. Entitlement the world revives around, her right the.
32:07
Speaker 18: Consequences she doesn't live in reality in the sense that
32:10
Speaker 18: the consequences here for everyone.
32:12
Speaker 19: Else i'm going to get out in a few. Months
32:14
Speaker 19: she's referried about her, Cat so we're listening to her.
32:19
Speaker 18: Speech we can give a window and to side her, World,
32:23
Speaker 18: nancy and it is so far from. Reality from not
32:27
Speaker 18: even talking talking to this officer about all these other,
32:32
Speaker 18: things and not even asking about the people that she
32:35
Speaker 18: hit that, night just shows how.
32:37
Speaker 7: She is just not in touch with.
32:39
Speaker 19: Reality she is above everybody, else and we can hear
32:41
Speaker 19: that in her.
32:42
Speaker 18: Speech SO i don't need to know her or diagnose
32:44
Speaker 18: her to know that her high narcissistic traits are definitely
32:49
Speaker 18: there through these footage that we've been watching today.
32:51
Speaker 5: For marriage to go to alcohol. Rita, okay that's part of, it,
33:04
Speaker 5: Right how long is? That four to six? Weeks all, right, well.
33:13
Speaker 2: Listen.
33:15
Speaker 4: Helps the case And i'll do.
33:16
Speaker 5: It right and help you a little. Too. Sure, well,
33:23
Speaker 5: yeah you, know so more information is coming out about what. Happened,
33:29
Speaker 5: no gotcha YOUR bac level and blood alcohol? Level?
33:41
Speaker 15: Yeah how?
33:43
Speaker 2: GOOD i can tell the mother and.
33:45
Speaker 1: FATHER i have been tiptoeing around that powder keg For
33:49
Speaker 1: komarovsky's whole, life cajoling, her appeasing, her pacifying her so
33:56
Speaker 1: she doesn't blow.
33:57
Speaker 11: Up crime stories With Nancy Grace.
34:11
Speaker 1: Troce.
34:11
Speaker 2: Layton you're the veteran defense. Attorney did you notice they're
34:14
Speaker 2: talking about.
34:15
Speaker 1: Everything but the dead bride in her wedding. Dress all
34:21
Speaker 1: they're talking, About, okay you're going to be out on this,
34:23
Speaker 1: Day you're going to go to. Rehab and she, goes,
34:25
Speaker 1: Sure i'll do it if it will help the. Case
34:27
Speaker 1: in other, words help me get out of. Here nothing About,
34:32
Speaker 1: Sam nothing about SHOULD i reach out To sam's? Family
34:37
Speaker 1: SHOULD i contact her? Mom SHOULD i make an. Apology
34:40
Speaker 1: SHOULD i go do charity, work SHOULD i? Anything it's
34:45
Speaker 1: all about, Sure.
34:47
Speaker 2: I'll do rehab IF i have, to if it'll help
34:49
Speaker 2: me get out of.
34:49
Speaker 17: Here it sounds like her dad is relaying information from
34:54
Speaker 17: a discussion with her defense. Counsel but back to the,
35:00
Speaker 17: scene back to the interrogation, room and when she is
35:04
Speaker 17: acting like a petulant. Child we don't know if she
35:09
Speaker 17: knew at that moment the horrific tragedy that she left
35:14
Speaker 17: in her. Wake we don't know if she knew about
35:18
Speaker 17: the death and disfigurement that was left at the. Scene
35:21
Speaker 17: so IT'S i think a little bit. Unfair i'm, SORRY i.
35:27
Speaker 2: Didn't know. That does she have some visual, Impairment, oh
35:32
Speaker 2: she has, visions so she saw what. Happened did she
35:37
Speaker 2: flying through the? Air maybe. NOT i can see that.
35:42
Speaker 17: The air bag exploded and in some instances that gives
35:46
Speaker 17: the driver of the car with the air bag a.
35:48
Speaker 17: Concussion it's such a shocking. Moment but she asked the
35:52
Speaker 17: police at that moment to go check on that. Woman
35:55
Speaker 17: so she, said immediately go check on her at the
35:59
Speaker 17: scene of the, Accident and so we don't know if
36:02
Speaker 17: at that moment she knew that she had caused a.
36:05
Speaker 17: Death so that's very.
36:07
Speaker 2: Important, okay let's analyze what you're. SAYING i also.
36:10
Speaker 17: Want to correct what you and the doctor said about
36:14
Speaker 17: the rising blood alcohol being only ten or fifteen, minutes
36:17
Speaker 17: depending on how much food you have in your, stomach
36:20
Speaker 17: it could take anywhere from thirty minutes up to four
36:24
Speaker 17: hours for the alcohol to be fully absorbed in your.
36:28
Speaker 17: Body so it's not just.
36:29
Speaker 2: Showing me the video Of Jamie Lee kamarowski at the. Bar,
36:33
Speaker 2: Please i've got her bellying up to not, one not.
36:38
Speaker 17: Two i'm glad that you're showing.
36:41
Speaker 1: Me different tables full of booze and downing it like a.
36:47
Speaker 1: Champ and notice she's wearing this is that. Night she's
36:51
Speaker 1: wearing the same. Outfit this is the night of the bride's.
36:58
Speaker 1: Death the table number, one then there's table, two then
37:03
Speaker 1: there's table. Three SO i don't know why you're wasting
37:05
Speaker 1: everybody's time talking about. It maybe she wasn't as drunk
37:09
Speaker 1: as we think she. Was, okay that's drunk right. THERE
37:13
Speaker 1: i don't have to smell her breath to note that
37:16
Speaker 1: is drunk right? There did you see? THAT i believe,
37:20
Speaker 1: You Mike, gould can you help me With Troy. Slayton
37:24
Speaker 1: i'm still hearing. Him, oh thank, you there is a.
37:28
Speaker 1: God of, COURSE i already knew. That would you tell
37:31
Speaker 1: him this woman is? Drunk it was proven in. COURT
37:35
Speaker 1: i don't know why every TIME i ask him a
37:37
Speaker 1: question he goes back, to, well maybe her blood alcohol was.
37:40
Speaker 1: Different maybe when she's sniveling and, complaining she didn't know
37:43
Speaker 1: she just murdered. Somebody excuse, me manslaughtered. Somebody she's. Drunk
37:49
Speaker 1: i've got her on video drinking alcohol and getting in
37:53
Speaker 1: a car and.
37:53
Speaker 15: Driving, Nancy you're absolutely. Right there's only one person respond
38:00
Speaker 15: for this, killing and that's. Her she's been.
38:02
Speaker 16: Proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law
38:05
Speaker 16: whether her blood alcohol was one point, zero which is,
38:08
Speaker 16: illegal or three point.
38:10
Speaker 15: Zero the fact that it was zero point two.
38:12
Speaker 16: Five i've had conversations although people were drunk and, intoxicated
38:16
Speaker 16: but they were somewhat articulate if they had a very
38:19
Speaker 16: high tolerance.
38:20
Speaker 19: To the substances in their.
38:21
Speaker 16: Body, so you, KNOW i understand the defense, attorney and,
38:24
Speaker 16: FRANKLY i understand you're a prosecutor's point of. View very
38:28
Speaker 16: often defense attorneys tell people don't take the breathalyze, it
38:32
Speaker 16: don't take refuse.
38:33
Speaker 15: It that's pretty common. Knowledge if you ask somebody that they.
38:37
Speaker 15: Should it's not recommended by defense. Attorneys but this, woman it's.
38:41
Speaker 15: Done she's been. Convicted she did. It my point earlier
38:44
Speaker 15: that other people are. Aware her father was.
38:47
Speaker 16: Aware he was saying it in the, video that he
38:50
Speaker 16: was implying previous incidents of her drunkenness or her.
38:54
Speaker 15: Alcoholism he implied it in the. Video so that was
38:57
Speaker 15: my point earlier.
38:58
Speaker 16: WHEN i say seventy three percent of people know an,
39:02
Speaker 16: Offender unlike IF i look out my window AND i
39:04
Speaker 16: see somebody breaking into.
39:06
Speaker 21: A, Car i'll call nine one.
39:08
Speaker 7: One on the golf, herd.
39:12
Speaker 10: She told me she didn't want to night to, end.
39:15
Speaker 7: AND i kissed her on the. Forehead and then the
39:18
Speaker 7: next THING i remember is waking up in the.
39:20
Speaker 12: Hospital so lovely today tomorrow until take my last breath
39:27
Speaker 12: on the Surf.
39:29
Speaker 4: I'm.
39:30
Speaker 7: Here that was the hour before.
39:33
Speaker 1: You that was her husband of about what an Hour
39:39
Speaker 1: Eric hutchinson's, Speaking he says on the golf, cart just
39:42
Speaker 1: before her, death she, SAID i don't want tonight to.
39:46
Speaker 1: End how many times HAVE i said THAT i don't
39:49
Speaker 1: want it to, end he kissed her on the forehead
39:54
Speaker 1: and the next thing he remembers is waking up in the. Hospital,
39:58
Speaker 1: NOW i want you to watch just for my friends
40:00
Speaker 1: AT abc, four by the, WAY i want you to
40:02
Speaker 1: Watch kamaraski in.
40:04
Speaker 7: COURT i will carry this still with me for the
40:08
Speaker 7: rest of my.
40:09
Speaker 4: Life and as much AS i WISH i could go
40:13
Speaker 4: back in time and have none of this, HAPPENED.
40:15
Speaker 15: I know that cannot.
40:16
Speaker 20: Be.
40:16
Speaker 8: Guys, unfortunately it's took this incredible tragedy and terrible it's
40:22
Speaker 8: in to wake.
40:22
Speaker 7: Me up to a set Of my, ADDITION i don't
40:26
Speaker 7: hope to hope people wake.
40:27
Speaker 1: Up oh my, stars did you see That Vanessa? Walsh
40:34
Speaker 1: she's reading and the lawyer she lost her spot and
40:41
Speaker 1: the lawyer had to point it out to.
40:43
Speaker 2: Her that is not.
40:44
Speaker 1: Heartfelt she's reading what they put in front of her
40:48
Speaker 1: to say to the judge to try to get a lenient.
40:52
Speaker 2: SENTENCE i will carry this guilt with me the rest
40:59
Speaker 2: of my. Life DID i get that?
41:00
Speaker 1: Right she's reading a prepared statement somebody else prepared for.
41:05
Speaker 1: HER i, mean that's not, real that's. Orchestrating it's from
41:10
Speaker 1: our friends At COURT tv AND abc.
41:12
Speaker 2: Four did you see THAT.
41:15
Speaker 9: I, Did, Nancy and even though she's expressing remorse, verbally
41:20
Speaker 9: it doesn't come across as sincere to. Me it's more
41:23
Speaker 9: likely that she's just scared because she's about to get,
41:25
Speaker 9: sentenced and she's just saying what her lawyer is telling
41:29
Speaker 9: her to.
41:29
Speaker 7: SAY i also.
41:30
Speaker 6: Wanted to say really quickly that regardless If jamie knew
41:35
Speaker 6: That samantha had. Died in that intake, video not once
41:39
Speaker 6: does she ask about the occupants of the golf.
41:42
Speaker 7: Cart she does ask if her rental car.
41:45
Speaker 9: Is, okay but nothing about the victims that she did
41:48
Speaker 9: see lying on the ground at the.
41:51
Speaker 7: Scene nobody read my veranda, rights AND i would like
41:55
Speaker 7: to get picked up right.
41:57
Speaker 4: Now?
41:58
Speaker 7: Please does anybody want to say anything about? That or
42:03
Speaker 7: what CAN i please get picked up?
42:06
Speaker 8: Now nobody read My miranda writes BEFORE i was, arrested
42:13
Speaker 8: AND i would like to go, now please, hulloh?
42:18
Speaker 7: Anyone does anyone have to say?
42:20
Speaker 1: Anything the famous QUOTE a little power is a dangerous.
42:26
Speaker 1: Thing i'm gonna amend that a little knowledge is a dangerous.
42:30
Speaker 1: Thing she knows enough to, Say, MIRANDA i want to
42:34
Speaker 1: be picked up right, Now, Okay, troy have a crack
42:40
Speaker 1: at it or are you gonna go back to THE.
42:41
Speaker 17: Bac WHAT i would, Say nancy is she doesn't seem
42:48
Speaker 17: like somebody who's a point two sixty's one. There but uh,
42:52
Speaker 17: oh this is a horrific tragedy and maybe the. Family
42:59
Speaker 17: it's not a.
42:59
Speaker 2: Tragedy it's like a tragedy something that just. Happens this
43:03
Speaker 2: is a.
43:03
Speaker 17: Crime she did. This but we also haven't talked about
43:07
Speaker 17: the liability of the shop, owners the dram, shop liability
43:12
Speaker 17: of the bars that were serving people at that at that.
43:18
Speaker 17: Location you're showing three different, bars and you're showing her
43:22
Speaker 17: being applied with alcohol if that was, True, Nancy so.
43:26
Speaker 2: It's the bar's.
43:27
Speaker 1: Fault they have, First i've got good talking about society.
43:31
Speaker 1: Problem now you're blaming the. Bar, OKAY i don't see
43:34
Speaker 1: them holding her down on the, floor forcing her to,
43:37
Speaker 1: drink or forcing her to get in the.
43:39
Speaker 5: Car you, know.
43:40
Speaker 2: That's that's the.
43:41
Speaker 1: Thing you want to blame everybody but her, Doctor. Priya last,
43:47
Speaker 1: time what happened To, Sam, well she was.
43:54
Speaker 10: Hit unfortunately in a terrible. Accident and it's not and.
44:01
Speaker 2: Accident accident is a complete. Defense, yes this is no. Accident,
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Speaker 2: NO i mean she chose to drive.
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Speaker 19: Back we followed a.
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Speaker 10: Car, accident but it is vehicular homicide and that's how
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Speaker 10: it should be. Treated it's multiple blunt force injuries that
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Speaker 10: took her. Life look at the devastation there AND i
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Speaker 10: mean IT'S i hope she didn't, suffer and that's all
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Speaker 10: we can pray.
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Speaker 1: For To Dave, Matt Crime story's investigative, reporter what were her?
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Speaker 1: Injuries what happened To Sam Sam?
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Speaker 12: Miller nancy was so beaten in this. WRECK i agree
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Speaker 12: it's not an. Accident this was a wreck that caused
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Speaker 12: her death because in that golf cart flying through the
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Speaker 12: air seventy five to one hundred Yards. Nancy and yet
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Speaker 12: at the end of, it she's got blunt forced injuries
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Speaker 12: all over her bos from where she was tossed and
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Speaker 12: thrown onto the pavement and onto the. Dirt she was
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Speaker 12: disfigured to the point where she was. Unrecognizable her injuries
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Speaker 12: were so total that she had to be identified by a.
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Speaker 17: Family member by a.
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Speaker 12: Tattoo so her injuries were complete and total all over her.
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Speaker 2: Body Dave, matt what about the Fiance, Eric.
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Speaker 12: Eric suffered traumatic brain, injury causing brain Bleeds. Nancy he
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Speaker 12: also broke both of his legs and suffered other. Injuries
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Speaker 12: but when you get down to, it two broken, legs
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Speaker 12: she has brain trauma that he is still recovering.
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Speaker 17: From to this.
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Speaker 12: Day he had to be taken into surgery immediately following
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Speaker 12: the accident or the wreck, rather and he is still
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Speaker 12: to this day recovering from the injuries he suffered because
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Speaker 12: that trauma to his brain will be a life long
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Speaker 12: situation for.
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Speaker 1: Him as we go to air, tonight the defendant is
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Speaker 1: at The Camille Graham Correctional. Facility i'm, sure whining about
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Speaker 1: everything from her, food to her, cell to her, roommate
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Speaker 1: to her, recreation to her, amenities you name.
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Speaker 2: It if you know or think you know anything.
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Speaker 1: About a vehicular homicide, case or you need, help or
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Speaker 1: you know someone that does need.
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Speaker 2: Help.
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Speaker 1: Dial tolfree eight seven seven six two three three four
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Speaker 1: three five repeat eight seven seven six two three three
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Speaker 1: four three. Five we remember An american hero, Firefighter Patrick
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Speaker 1: brady The New York City Fire, department killed in the
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Speaker 1: line of, duty leaving behind a wife turned, Widow Kara
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Speaker 1: american Hero Firefighter Patrick. Brady thank you to our, guest
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Speaker 1: but especially to you for being with. Us Nancy gray
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Speaker 1: signing off for, tonight But i'll see tomorrow night and Until.
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Speaker 2: Ben good night, friend