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Shia & Proud 💚 - Eid Al-Ghadeer Special · After Maghrib 🌙

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Salaam alaikum, warahmatullah brothers sisters.
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Welcome back to another episode of after Maghrib.
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I am your host Adam and Gokul and today we're going to be
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reflecting on identity. We're going to be talking about
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all things identity who we are what we believe in.
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As we, of course, continue the celebrations of either Kadir.
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And of course, he denied her a couple of weeks ago and also as
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we prepare for the month of Muharram, which is fast
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approaching. But before we get into the
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conversation is my Joy and honor to be with the one, the only the
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Glorious said I did another way salaam alaikum.
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I've made a thing. I'm gonna try my best every week
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to find a new word to describe you.
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Lila? Just, just, I'd rather ways
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enough. How you doing?
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I'm good. I'm delighting.
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I'm the local complain. I love you.
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Quinn a week has been. All right.
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And I've been really looking forward to this weekend
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especially because it's either a deal.
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Mmm. So, I've been waiting to say my
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Salah Malik and with an amazing gr Eileen.
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Yeah, Ali, Yeah. Yeah, of course a name like Ali
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is a name to be proud of mmm. How does that make you feel?
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You know, when you reflect, of course, in this season of God
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are, how does it make you feel, you know, to your parents, to
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your community for having your name?
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I've like generally never for of it from that perspective best to
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be called The Alley after alley. Hmm.
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It's I'm very grateful because it's a name that one especially
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if your shh very proud of. So I wanna thank my mother.
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My father for giving me this amazing name and I just
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remembered, you know, saying from a blood who say no, he
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said, father thousand suns. I will name them all a lie
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mashallah. Yeah.
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And I named my son Ali for the Marshal.
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Because of that Heidi flush out. And you know, this is the season
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where we remember? I'm a little more minions, all
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of his qualities, all of his characteristics.
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Will I of a minimum minion is priceless and to be called a
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Shear of a minimal, minion is a badge of honor like no other my
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opinion on these and we are very proud and we love to call
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ourselves follows of Ali bin ABI Talib.
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So the water level someone who I lie.
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But to be worthy of being called a follower is a different matter
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as a we can only dream to be true.
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Shh, you know, the that I think to be she I have to be like
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Khmer and mother made them and it is a weekend, like, look up
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to them, and try to be like them.
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I think we will deserve this title, but I'm not saying you
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shouldn't call it Sasha, but what I'm trying to say is that I
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don't think we deserve this title and it's, yeah, that's a
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blessing. It is a blessing upon anything
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to be born into the Whether you're born into this Faith or
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whether you'll you've come across this Faith, it's an
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asset. We should be proud of as an
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asset. I think we shouldn't forget the
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value of all. Take for granted because we are
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not guaranteed, reward in the Arca or in, even, even in this
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world because we are sheer. Do you see what I mean?
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But the question, I think we wanted to kind of look at today,
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was how do we identify ourselves?
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Whether it is as a Shear. Can I ask you that question?
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Question asked me, that question.
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Yeah, because I'm like really intrigued of how you'll answer
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it Goku. Are you Muslim first of all, you
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a Shia Muslim? I think it depends who's asking
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me me, then I'll say, I'm Michelle Muslim to you.
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Now, I've Tom Dick and Harry's asking you the question.
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Well, presumably if it's someone who's not a Muslim asking me, I
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would say I'm a Muslim. Hmm, looks presumably they would
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know what she lies. So I would say with pride, I am
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a Shia Muslim to a Muslim in my opinion because I think there's
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nothing to hide. Its I why should I have to to,
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to hide the fact? I'm actually, I'm okay, so let's
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say you're inside Arabia. Okay.
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And you know, you're doing tawaf around the Kaaba what know,
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right. Okay.
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You know, do you think we are living in a place?
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Now time now where you would wear a sheet, I will feel
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uncomfortable being identified as a.
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She I think. Yes that's interesting.
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So yeah. But in this Society in
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particular amongst friends or colleagues or whatever who are
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Muslim and if they ask you are you a shh?
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Yeah. Why not?
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I mean I don't have to to pee. And acquaintances and so on, I
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don't need either. But if you're in a place of
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potential risk or harm, or even just discrimination, then you
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identify as Muslim because you are a Muslim, you know, hiding,
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the fact that you're a Muslim. You're not you're not lying by
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saying you're Muslim. If I am told you to analogy
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earlier, if I am a Liverpool fan.
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Yes, am I also a football fan? That's what accident?
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Yeah, yeah, but not every football fan is a Liverpool fan.
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Every little fantasy football fan.
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So, if you identify yourself as As a shy, you are of course a
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Muslim. But not every Muslim is this
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year. What about you?
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I'm at how I feel. I feel very shy and something
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I'm very proud of because you know, when ice to go to school I
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still have love Chef friends and they's always just say I'm
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Muslim or whenever they were, like, mixing with other Muslims
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who are, who are not sure, they would not admit this year, or
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they were like, too shy to say. For example, you know, I do a
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lot more something and I think this is something we shouldn't
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be shy of and it's something we should be very proud of some Be
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proud say I'm approached you. I think, I think you and I both
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of course there are times when we advise everyone at home of
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course to be aware of situations and circumstances where it's
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not, it's not right, maybe two, maybe identify yourself as a
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shield because we do live in a world like you said, where
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there's you can face antagonism for being underwater.
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This is exactly why I just mentioned my school days.
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That's because though the point you just mentioned right now.
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Yeah, you know, there are In times where someone's not
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comfortable saying he had I had an experience like that in
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school. Can you talk about it?
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Yeah. Why not Miss Miller?
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I mean the the like one of the biggest regrets of my life was
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the last time I got into a physical fight with someone as I
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must have been hit, like a teenager, I was maybe 15 years
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old at the time and I was it was during my harm and I was
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listening with my headphones to love them to know her and There
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was a guy who I considered a friend who started beating his
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chest, like a gorilla, making fun of me.
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And of course, of our beliefs in anger, I took off my headphones
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and I confronted him. I pushed him.
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We got into a fight with fists and all sorts.
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I regret that incredibly looking back on it and of course, I
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apologize to him. We made up actually a couple of
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years later, but if I am a follower of a minimum manin, how
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can I then, take out Out my anger on someone we believe in
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the same man, who when confronted and spat on he didn't
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kill his enemies out of anger. Yeah.
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He gave them Rama, he gave them the opportunity to I and he
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said, if I strike him now with them, be for the sake of Allah
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will be of my anger. Yeah, I mean for me personally
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that was an experience which island for from and I try and
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take that into account now. If I ever come across an
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experience, I was young. And of course, if the brothers
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watching and I highly Out if you all watching again, ask your
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forgiveness and you know, we will learn from experiences like
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that. Now that's interesting to hear.
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You know, we've I think everyone has experienced some sort of
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discrimination, hmm, for being shy of for me is only like,
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mainly when I travel in the airports.
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Yeah, and, you know, when you're crossing the country is like the
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by transiting whatnot. They're like, okay, this guy's
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she is giving me a headache, it's very clear.
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And they look at the passport, the names, I lie, birthplace
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Karbala you know, when's his next destination plane landing
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an edge F. They know exactly what's
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happening. Yeah.
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You know they just give you a hassle.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But I haven't really faced something as deep as yours and I
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don't know how I would have reacted, if I was in your
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position, I probably would have been angry. - I don't mean, to
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be honest, I think a lot of people face a lot more and, you
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know, we live in a world now where people face, you know,
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much much worse things than getting in fights at school,
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just simply for having the name Ali, like you do or the name.
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Abbas. Like I have you know so these
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are things for us to consider and if you know having the name
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Ali is the worst thing to have when you're in Aruba.
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When in the Uber, why yours is the best thing to have?
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Let me just say as amazes me make that happen, you know,
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those taxi Journeys. So the driver always like so
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brother, your name is Ali. I'm like, yeah, we found a lock.
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Yeah, we're from Iraq. So you're sure, you know, you
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always have to say when you enter this This sort of
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discussion, the good thing about the name.
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Ahmed is, it's a very universally Muslim Islamic name.
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Everywhere you go in the Muslim world.
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You see an Ahmed, beautiful weather in East Africa, or the
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Middle East, or in Far, East Asia wherever you are.
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Hmm, it works. So hamdulillah.
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Al hamdulillah handle. I really want to talk about,
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being sure. No because, you know, we, as I
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said earlier, we try to be sure, you know, you know, there are
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certain terms and conditions to say that we are from the she of
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course, but, you know, a long time.
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Let's see about 15 20, maybe even 30 years ago, to see,
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you're sure, you know, those are huge risk to your life and it
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will especially like during for Iraqis, especially like Jennifer
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dumb time. You, you couldn't even do, and
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you could even write poetry. He's going to do anything that
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represented or identified, you as being share because you will
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be persecuted, your family will be taken away.
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So everyone like try to hide, but the fact, you know, Saddam
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is gone. The world has changed
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technology. Elegy has like taken the the she
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has stage to a next level where now we see, you know she I TV
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channels. We see Sharp reductions, we see
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she our representation even in places in some governments
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around the world, even in sport. And this is big, even in sport.
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And this is a speaking of sport, you know.
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Just all the day, the name is Rafael.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I saw a small clip from him and he was like, you know, Ya Allah,
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ya, Muhammad ya Ali. Yeah.
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The moment in that was amazing, was a proud moment.
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It was a problem. Very, very problem.
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And, you know, I really wish him the best in all its might shower
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Rafael. If you're ever in town reminded
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me of a story of the marketing podcast, he needs to jump on.
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This is the last, you know, last are buying the one that went
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past. I was blessed Handler to go to
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the, our wagon. And then just like, after I left
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- airport there was like, commotion going on.
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And apparently, who are this? Rafael brother was there and he
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just landed without a Visa. And they were the let him in any
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like there was like a huge that's eventually took about two
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or three days for him to leave the airport.
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But handle, Le he managed to go to this Tiara.
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So something amazing. I'm speaking of Rafael.
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Yeah, for I'll bring that. Now, he's definitely in this
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version. I mean, don't work.
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He's doing. And of course, he's
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representing. Of course, he's also had for
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those who know, like a lot of political drama, not
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representing his country of his home country because of their
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persecution and discrimination against Shia minorities.
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And now of course the affiliates with By John, which is the
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birthplace of his father, and which is, of course, the
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majority, she our country and he's the first UFC fighter from
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Azerbaijan as well. And now I think if I'm not
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mistaken, he's ranked seventh number seven in light-weight
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rankings for UFC, which is incredible.
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That's incredible. So, yeah, and you know, another
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thing I might is such a blessing to be here, living in the west
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right now because, you know, you have lots of freedoms.
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Correct. So, you know, you can practice
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your faith, you can go hold your modulus, you can go hold your
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more Wily then you can do all the setups and the backgrounds
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and the video clip you can all of this peacefully.
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You know another countries that unfortunate that the
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discrimination and persecution against any like she activities
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they're still going on. Yeah and you are correct.
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You know that the other day I was actually thinking we were
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talking between some friends and you know we were saying like do
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we really believe in the British?
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Freedom blah blah blah was like I was like in a way we are a
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big. We should be grateful to
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actually be living in the west places like the United Kingdom.
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Because we have these freedoms especially when you mentioned a
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lot of our grandparents and whatnot will persecute.
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My grandfather. Was were Shaheed under the
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regime of Saddam and Iraq a lot. And I think a lot of our family
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members, of course, were lost at that time and there the Risen
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and a rocky by know that hasn't lost like a, an uncle or
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grandfather. Plenty, that relates to being
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shot and even, even until today, we're talking about a nation.
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If we're talking about just about rock, but imagination.
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Which went through years decades of dictatorship, followed by
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Foreign intervention and Then followed by by diet and
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extremist Uprising till today, people are suffering until
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today, people are persecuted. And if we're talking, then about
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all, you know, in the west and all of this and that mother, she
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know, as some say y direction, which I like I told you guys,
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I'm picking up my Arabic. But you know, having that
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freedom to practice here is a blessing.
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We don't have even if you talk about Malaysia, if I'm not
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mistaken 9 of 14 or 11 or 14, In provinces URL, it's illegal to
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practice shiism if you are a resident, a citizen of Malaysia.
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But if you're a tourist, it's fine.
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You know, I've heard like specially Malaysia, think of the
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knees as one of Indonesia's taken every time like the month
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of Muharram comes, as always, you know, they closed down the
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center, or they arrested that mawlana or anything or to do, if
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you're practicing your, share our faith, you get this.
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This, this begs. The question goes on, I went in
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the 21st century. Absolutely.
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It's It's shocking. And of course, this begs the
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question. Well, what we take for granted
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here? We're here, we miss our prayers.
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We pray, lay all for example, we don't really pay attention to,
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to the will audit of a sudden. The mom, which we don't consider
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to be as important or even. For example, we're not as fast
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about the things. Our parents tell us what, you
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know, how much more grateful can we should be more grateful to
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understand the fact that we live in a world now where we have
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that freedom to practice and there were people who would do
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anything to be in the show. We're in.
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And, you know, we have people to thank for the freedom of
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movement and those people are the ones who died trying to
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revive the share our faith. You know, a lot of people, sadly
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lost their lives being shh. Yeah.
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And it's thanks to them that they continue doing what they
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do. Now, we still have the message
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here till today. Absolutely.
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And you just just to think of it, if I were alive, let's say,
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I don't know. 30, 40, 50 years ago.
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I don't know if I can come on, say, I'm proud to be sure.
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I really don't know the answer but where I am right now, I'm
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very proud, very proud. And I thank them for the
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sacrifices. They've given these are the
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icons. If we can use that word for,
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this is how my, why is important to ensure that we can be proud
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of this. Yeah.
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Because like I said, they have died for this and it's only
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fair. Like I'm putting a religion
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aside was only fair if they've laid down their lives for this,
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cause for the sake of will ayat ambulance.
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You can't just not can't be quiet and start hiding.
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She has a hiding. We need to stop that.
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We need to be happy and proud uncomfortable of who we are.
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As we said earlier, the valaya of a minimum in is priceless.
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It gives us purpose reason, guidance for this world.
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And it's our aspiration in the Hereafter.
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We not just thank our parents, but we pray that our children
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will inherit and consume, and flood in the will of a minimum
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in in, and it brings us back to, as you said, Those who gave and
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lost their lives in the, in the way of a minimal minion.
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And of course, those of all his companions and followers at the
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time of the Holy imams and obviously, in the time up until
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today, who have given their sacrifices for us to, then have
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the freedom to practice, and we have to remember that.
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And of course, you know, no better time as we approach the
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holy month of Muharram to think about those who lost their lives
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and to sacrifice for us, you know, who gave their they're
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being, who gave their Essence for us, you know?
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No, every drop of blood that has been spilled over hundreds of
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years was for us. And we never pay attention to
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it. We don't take hiddens to the
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fact that there are people families who have been grieving
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for decades because they've lost a father or a brother defending.
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The shrine of about the letter saying or defending the shrine
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of, I mean, and what minion? And najaf like these are people
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who we owe much more than our gratitude to we do we do and we
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always have stories knowing modulus when it comes to you
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know, speaking of people who Profess themselves.
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You know, the a lot of caramel which Dynasty, it was best
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whenever you wanted to go towards the ZR of Imam
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al-hussein, you had to give your left hand or your right hand and
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then those people actually giving all their limbs just to
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continue on that Giada. So they were willing to go
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through all of this just for the sake of about the law.
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And you know, nowadays we have unfortunately lots of Shia
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Muslims. You know sometimes I've been in
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college and you know what they say?
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They or turn turn that lot to me at down or, you know, sometimes
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you're driving. And honestly, I'll be like, if I
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had the real be doing a lot on the guy, the guy probably has
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like, an Uber driver is probably watching or what on Earth is
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going on, but I wouldn't stop. But there's people who stop.
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They feel embarrassed and I don't think you should.
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I don't think you should be embarrassed of.
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This should be proud of this. I agree.
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I agree completely. And of course we've obviously
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especially in the deal, which is we've just had a few days ago
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that there is a Season where we bought a skin.
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The love of the middle minion. Yeah.
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And I just want to ask you a question.
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Yeah. Ali, yay, Ali.
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What are your three favorite qualities characteristics of a
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minimum inning? Abaddon.
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Every single podcast, you put me on the spot.
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What can I say? But that was, that's the beauty
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of this podcast, you know? Yeah yeah.
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It's unscripted on script, unfiltered.
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However, you did ask for three points.
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The problem is with a mirror, a little minion three points us to
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a little snot as it's not enough connection.
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We can go on and on and on and I promise you there is once you
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start praising I have never thought of the content.
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No as possible. But while do instead I'm going
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to get you to say the three points.
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Okay but in return. I'll go first.
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I'll recite a few lines of poetry Sevilla.
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Yeah, I like the island with that.
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However, if I said before you start because that you says a
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few people in the room who's here with us recording, how are
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you guys to please? Join us now that.
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Hey, Daddy body. So the words begin by saying she
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I am proud hmm she I am proud they call us the waffled and our
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heads held high proud of this label, how can we not be proud
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on the one? Whom the car back cracked open
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and the house of God. This cradle, they asked, who is
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I lie? And who can blame them?
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I lead the rightful successor but no one told them with with I
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blame them. No, I wouldn't that's between
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them and Allah. As for me, I leave the first,
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I'll use the last without the will I of the son of Abu taalib?
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My prayers not accepted and neither is my fast.
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As for my mother, she named me alley after alley and she fed me
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the milk of the love of I lie. And I As for my father, he died
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in the service of the son of Ali and thanks to him.
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The first words I would hear is the adhan and the mentioning of
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a Holly Jolly Masha, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah.
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This is, this is something I wrote on the birth of a mirror
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woman in, and I've never really done.
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Spoken poetry. I don't know why.
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I was like something very new. And, you know, being talking
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about shit being she and being proud of you identity of what
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this is. Amazing lines of poetry.
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Mago be question for you. What's your three points?
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All the best attributes. How can I say?
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How can I follow that said, who's putting you on the spot?
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Now me, the courage of a minimum manin is something which we all
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know of his courage in Haber, his courage in front of the the
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tyrants his courage, when he had to witness, the the death of
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automata Sahara, where he had to witness the oppression, that was
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to Lola. Muhammad faced himself.
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The Compassion of You don't mean not just to his family not just
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to his supporters or his friends but even the compassion, he
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showed to his enemies is something we need to take into
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account. We need to learn from in this
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day and age. And finally in my opinion, my
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favorite quality or Miramonte minion, if I'm entirely honest
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his his wisdom, his hikmah, yeah, the knowledge that I mean,
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I'm not manin displayed in his life from a young age up until
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his last days and of course, we talked about the knowledge of me
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Lamont minion. And we know him as the walking
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Quran, but also he displayed a complete understanding and
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Analysis of the Affairs of the world and the Affairs of the
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heavens, I mean, demonic minion was the one who when people came
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to and the streets with worldly issues who would dissect those
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issues and give them Solutions a minimum.
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In the end would, who would answer the people?
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They came to him in poverty and they didn't know how to how to
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find wealth and whose reputation was damaged at minimum and Dean
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would be there. 8. And this is something.
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I think we all should learn from that with these three things,
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courage and compassion along with knowledge and wisdom and
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Charla. We can try and attain to even
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try to call ourselves the followers of the companions of a
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minimal minion inshallah. Sure.
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So that was that was by the way. So amazing.
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I actually felt like I was listening to a lecture at all my
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God is that compliment know that I'm being not being real.
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This is a specialist The season for us, where, you know, Bronte
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sisters way. We are basking in our love of a
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minimum, Indian, I live Nobita lips, water, waves are morally.
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And if there's a time where it's where we are proud to be ashy,
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are it's in this season where we've celebrated to Kadir and
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we've celebrated the the holy occasions, either other.
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And of course, as we prepare for the month of my month of
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Muharram. So yeah.
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So I think we've, you know, Inshallah encouraged people at
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home wherever they're watching this, you know, in the car, on
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the journey. I'm not sure where it was
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listening to this podcast. Someone just said, someone might
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be at the gym, you never know best.
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I really hope that they are proud of the identity and
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something very important. And one thing that I really
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really want to mention It's don't be afraid of being sure.
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Because, you know, you just mentioned all these qualities,
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Imam Ali. And, and you mentioned the
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sahaba and I just remembered like Mather, man, all these
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people. Like, we always hear their
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stories of how they gave their life for the sake of Allah, in
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the way of a million women. In and inshallah, we can be like
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them childhood, shall I best we end there.
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However, moment. Yeah, I you during the podcast,
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you said, The rocky freeze. I'm trying to remember what the
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freezer was edition of my traditional.
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Yeah, so we were speaking about something and he said, mother if
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you know and you know, you've been dropping a bit of a rocky
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here and then I know you are married to a Nawrocki Abdullah
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Handler. Solid test like a few words
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signals. Haha, your Rockies.
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Oh my goodness. Here we go.
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I only choose 50k and only just five.
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Go easy on me. Say I'll go easy.
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I don't embarrass myself. No, no.
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The first one being is, how do you say shoes in the Rocky now
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odd? Oh God.
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I mean slippers, is it a root? Is it rude to say that you can't
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call someone? And every time you hear it in
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the community sense, you can say here that I think it's more
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appropriate. Yeah, I forgot walking your ass.
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Can I can I do a few more Bismillah.
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How do you say spoon? Hi sugar, you know, only a rock.
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You say that by the way, is it go to a restaurant?
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Any like, there's a lot of words, I realized only Rockies
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here. How do you say bed?
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I don't know. About not gonna lie, I probably
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heard it. Sure, why should I buy it?
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I have had this. Yeah, I've heard that about
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that. Should buy it.
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I'm trying, I'm trying to think of a few that I've said and
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people like, what are you talking about?
25:38
I'm going II, know a couple, random one fork either the fork
25:42
only with Ashoka single, there's a couple the offset handle at
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the beauty of being having an interracial marriages.
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You pick up so much about each other's culture and obviously my
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wife may Allah bless her and if you're listening she's picking
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up obviously a lot of my culture and my mother tongue which is or
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do as well. But there's so many random words
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so many random phrases which I wish some of them I can unlearn
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You know, you're a soldier I am. And so, there's always like the
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phrase always here. When, you know, when you're
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training with Hodges and the talking like every 10 seconds, I
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was like sour Sawa, Sawa, Sawa, Sawa, and I'm thinking like,
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there's too much lemon in the chaika.
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What's going on somehow? I don't speak Swahili.
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I know phrases from Swahili one. Side of my family is from Kenya.
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Mmm but I'm impressed with that style of the hoja people
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amazing. They love their Barraza and I
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love them. Love we love our house anyway on
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that note but it was interesting.
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Yeah we'll leave it there and we'll see you next week or
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someone in a coma.