Latest / Cookbook Love Podcast / Episode 397: The Rhythms That Help Me Think, Write, and Cook
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- 0:02Speaker: You are listening to the Cookbook Love Podcast with
- 0:04Speaker: Maggie Greene, episode number three ninety seven.
- 0:10Speaker: Welcome to the cookbook Love
- 0:12Speaker: Podcast, a podcast that
- 0:14Speaker: celebrates cookbook readers,
- 0:16Speaker: buyers, collectors, writers, and
- 0:18Speaker: clubs.
- 0:19Speaker: And now your host, cookbook
- 0:21Speaker: author, culinary dietitian, and
- 0:23Speaker: cookbook writing coach, Maggie
- 0:24Speaker: Green.
- 0:31Speaker: Hi, everybody.
- 0:32Speaker: Welcome back to another episode of the cookbook Love podcast.
- 0:35Speaker: How's everybody doing today?
- 0:37Speaker: All is well here this morning.
- 0:40Speaker: I'm actually recording this
- 0:42Speaker: podcast on a Monday, which is a
- 0:44Speaker: little bit unusual for me, but
- 0:47Speaker: last week was the week after
- 0:48Speaker: Easter.
- 0:49Speaker: And the older I get, the more I like to treat that week like the
- 0:55Speaker: week after Christmas.
- 0:57Speaker: Um, and my faith tradition.
- 0:59Speaker: Being Roman Catholic, I actually believe it's a bigger holiday
- 1:03Speaker: for us and a bigger celebration what we're actually celebrating.
- 1:08Speaker: And I've often wondered why society doesn't treat it the
- 1:12Speaker: same as Christmas.
- 1:13Speaker: And I think it's because it
- 1:14Speaker: doesn't quite have the
- 1:15Speaker: commercial appeal.
- 1:16Speaker: There's not as much gift giving.
- 1:18Speaker: But last week I took some time just to, um, enjoy my house,
- 1:23Speaker: enjoy my time here.
- 1:25Speaker: Warren was actually out of town for most of the week.
- 1:28Speaker: And, um, I want to talk a little
- 1:31Speaker: bit about today, some things
- 1:32Speaker: that I've been thinking about
- 1:33Speaker: related to, um, some actions and
- 1:37Speaker: things that I do that have
- 1:40Speaker: really helped me in this age of
- 1:43Speaker: a, I thought a lot about this
- 1:46Speaker: because in my business, I've
- 1:48Speaker: often wondered if I ought to
- 1:50Speaker: teach some AI strategies or
- 1:55Speaker: tactics.
- 1:56Speaker: And I know a lot of the coaches that I see teaching online or
- 2:01Speaker: talking a lot about AI.
- 2:03Speaker: In Jane Friedman's publishing
- 2:05Speaker: newsletter, she talks a lot
- 2:06Speaker: about AI.
- 2:07Speaker: Of course, in the publishing
- 2:08Speaker: industry, AI is not very fondly
- 2:12Speaker: looked upon.
- 2:14Speaker: Publishers want books that are written by people.
- 2:17Speaker: Lived experiences.
- 2:19Speaker: Things that they know.
- 2:20Speaker: Or it could be stories that
- 2:22Speaker: they've created out of their own
- 2:23Speaker: imagination.
- 2:25Speaker: So I want to talk to you today about some things that I do here
- 2:30Speaker: in my own life.
- 2:32Speaker: I don't want this podcast to
- 2:33Speaker: really sound like a list of
- 2:34Speaker: things you should do, but I just
- 2:36Speaker: want to share what I do and how
- 2:39Speaker: these actions have helped me to
- 2:42Speaker: continue to stay grounded in the
- 2:45Speaker: work that I do and to continue
- 2:48Speaker: to generate content, including
- 2:51Speaker: this podcast, coaching for my
- 2:53Speaker: students, writing that I do for
- 2:56Speaker: books that I'm working on, and
- 2:59Speaker: just generally the output that I
- 3:01Speaker: have in my life and the things
- 3:02Speaker: that I'm able to do for other
- 3:04Speaker: people.
- 3:05Speaker: And it's not that part of it's not based on AI and it's not
- 3:10Speaker: faster and it's not more.
- 3:12Speaker: Again, it just makes me feel more grounded and more connected
- 3:15Speaker: because it actually helps me to think for myself.
- 3:20Speaker: So I want to share what I do, to think and to write and to cook
- 3:24Speaker: without relying on AI.
- 3:26Speaker: And some things that I've noticed over time related to
- 3:29Speaker: these rhythms that I have.
- 3:32Speaker: Um, I've talked about some of
- 3:34Speaker: these things before, not quite
- 3:36Speaker: in this context about having
- 3:37Speaker: them presented to you here all
- 3:39Speaker: at one time, but I thought it
- 3:42Speaker: would be a good time to offer
- 3:44Speaker: you these tips, because I know
- 3:47Speaker: for me that it is tempting to
- 3:49Speaker: use AI and outsource a lot of
- 3:51Speaker: what I'm going to talk about to
- 3:53Speaker: AI, but I think that we're doing
- 3:55Speaker: ourselves a huge disservice as
- 3:57Speaker: humans with our reasoning
- 3:59Speaker: capacity, our ability to think,
- 4:01Speaker: our ability to decide, our
- 4:04Speaker: ability to move forward with
- 4:06Speaker: things that we want to move
- 4:07Speaker: forward with.
- 4:09Speaker: If we let AI do all of the work for us.
- 4:12Speaker: So this matters to me because I know a lot of you maybe are
- 4:16Speaker: wanting to perhaps write a book or get published.
- 4:19Speaker: Also, because I talk to people
- 4:21Speaker: on the podcast who have written
- 4:23Speaker: books.
- 4:24Speaker: And, um, writing a cookbook is not just about getting our
- 4:28Speaker: recipes on the page.
- 4:29Speaker: That is something that AI could totally do for you.
- 4:32Speaker: But I think that writing books is really about how you think.
- 4:37Speaker: It's about how you make
- 4:38Speaker: decisions, and it's about how
- 4:40Speaker: you stay connected to yourself
- 4:42Speaker: and to what you're creating over
- 4:44Speaker: time.
- 4:46Speaker: So let's start first of all with writing.
- 4:50Speaker: Um, I think you all maybe know,
- 4:52Speaker: or if you're new to the podcast,
- 4:53Speaker: you might not know that every
- 4:55Speaker: morning I sit down and write in
- 4:57Speaker: a spiral notebook, three pages
- 4:59Speaker: by hand.
- 5:00Speaker: I use, um, just a Bic pen and a spiral notebook.
- 5:06Speaker: I order them in packs of six from Amazon.
- 5:09Speaker: And, uh, it's a practice from
- 5:12Speaker: Julia Cameron called Morning
- 5:13Speaker: Pages.
- 5:15Speaker: There's not really any structure to it except that I write three
- 5:18Speaker: pages, and generally it takes me no more than thirty minutes.
- 5:23Speaker: The goal here is not to produce
- 5:26Speaker: anything that is useful, and I'm
- 5:29Speaker: not editing or organizing my
- 5:31Speaker: thoughts necessarily.
- 5:32Speaker: I'm just writing whatever is on my mind.
- 5:35Speaker: And I'm going to read to you from Julia Cameron's book, her
- 5:38Speaker: description of Morning Pages.
- 5:40Speaker: I want to give her credit again for this tool.
- 5:43Speaker: I know a lot of my students also
- 5:45Speaker: use it, and people that are
- 5:47Speaker: working on creative projects use
- 5:50Speaker: it.
- 5:50Speaker: But she describes morning pages as every morning she says to set
- 5:54Speaker: your alarm thirty minutes early and write longhand, three, eight
- 5:59Speaker: and a half by eleven inch pages about anything and everything
- 6:02Speaker: that comes to mind.
- 6:04Speaker: I always say I would never stand between anyone in their morning
- 6:09Speaker: coffee, but try to get to the page as quickly as possible.
- 6:14Speaker: Don't spend forty five minutes brewing the perfect cup.
- 6:17Speaker: The faster you get to the page,
- 6:18Speaker: the better the pages will work
- 6:20Speaker: for you.
- 6:21Speaker: Avoid the phone, the computer, and email until you have
- 6:24Speaker: finished your pages.
- 6:26Speaker: The pages act as a windshield wiper, clearing away what stands
- 6:32Speaker: between you and your day.
- 6:35Speaker: And that whole thought of morning pages being a windshield
- 6:39Speaker: wiper, clearing away what stands between you and your day?
- 6:44Speaker: What that means to me is that often what stands between us and
- 6:48Speaker: the day we want to have is what's on our mind when we wake
- 6:52Speaker: up in the morning and morning.
- 6:55Speaker: Pages are a way to process that.
- 6:59Speaker: Get that out on paper.
- 7:00Speaker: Do some thinking out loud and
- 7:03Speaker: some processing and clear your
- 7:04Speaker: mind so that you can have the
- 7:06Speaker: morning that you want to have
- 7:08Speaker: now.
- 7:09Speaker: Um. I think one of the greatest inventions for mankind, if you
- 7:14Speaker: drink coffee in the morning, is a coffee pot that you can
- 7:18Speaker: automatically set up to brew your coffee, do it at night
- 7:23Speaker: before you go to bed.
- 7:24Speaker: And then when you wake up, your coffee's brewed.
- 7:26Speaker: I literally get out of bed, go to the bathroom, pour my coffee,
- 7:32Speaker: and head to the spot where I'm going to do my writing.
- 7:37Speaker: Um, for me right now, it's in a room, um, the area adjacent to
- 7:44Speaker: where I work.
- 7:45Speaker: I have a couch that I sit on.
- 7:48Speaker: My cats often join me there.
- 7:49Speaker: My two cats I adopted last fall,
- 7:51Speaker: and I get my writing done often
- 7:54Speaker: before.
- 7:55Speaker: Uh, you know, I take my shower or anything like that.
- 7:58Speaker: Then I take take a walk or.
- 7:59Speaker: Take my shower, get ready for the day.
- 8:01Speaker: But morning pages always comes first.
- 8:03Speaker: If I get distracted and start
- 8:05Speaker: doing other things, it just
- 8:07Speaker: doesn't happen.
- 8:08Speaker: Um. I'm very faithful to this practice.
- 8:12Speaker: I've committed to it.
- 8:14Speaker: Um, ask anyone that I travel
- 8:16Speaker: with or ask people whose homes I
- 8:18Speaker: visit when I travel if I'm ever
- 8:20Speaker: a houseguest.
- 8:21Speaker: Um, I know they've seen me or
- 8:24Speaker: they know that I get up and do
- 8:26Speaker: this and I generally don't let
- 8:28Speaker: travel.
- 8:29Speaker: Being in a hotel or being in
- 8:30Speaker: someone's home, uh, stop me from
- 8:31Speaker: doing it.
- 8:32Speaker: It's very, uh, fruitful, productive.
- 8:35Speaker: And I think it really helps me
- 8:36Speaker: again to like Julia Cameron
- 8:39Speaker: says, uh, this morning, page X
- 8:42Speaker: is a windshield wiper clearing
- 8:43Speaker: away what stands between you and
- 8:46Speaker: your day.
- 8:48Speaker: So when I start my days like this and I know what's on my
- 8:53Speaker: mind, I can get it off my mind.
- 8:56Speaker: It literally changes how that I move through my day.
- 8:59Speaker: And if I think of something I
- 9:00Speaker: need to do or think of something
- 9:02Speaker: that I want to take action on, I
- 9:04Speaker: just kind of keep a little list
- 9:06Speaker: there as I'm writing and I make
- 9:09Speaker: decisions quicker.
- 9:10Speaker: I stay with ideas longer.
- 9:13Speaker: I don't get caught up in as much second guessing, and I'm no
- 9:19Speaker: longer trying to work during the day through a bunch of noise.
- 9:23Speaker: I'm working through clarity.
- 9:25Speaker: And, um, it's been a very important part of what I do.
- 9:28Speaker: I highly recommend it.
- 9:31Speaker: All credit to Julia Cameron.
- 9:33Speaker: Um, she's been very generous with talking about this tool,
- 9:38Speaker: sharing this tool.
- 9:39Speaker: And I think that it's something
- 9:41Speaker: that, uh, she deserves all the
- 9:43Speaker: credit for.
- 9:43Speaker: And for any person who's creative that uses her process.
- 9:47Speaker: Um, amazing to think what we've
- 9:50Speaker: been able to create in the world
- 9:52Speaker: without AI because of morning
- 9:54Speaker: pages.
- 9:56Speaker: The second thing that's a regular part of my rhythm that's
- 9:59Speaker: also physical is walking.
- 10:02Speaker: I walk on most days and I
- 10:04Speaker: noticed the days when I'm
- 10:05Speaker: walking.
- 10:07Speaker: My thinking is different.
- 10:08Speaker: It's more clear.
- 10:09Speaker: It's great to be outside, get some fresh air.
- 10:12Speaker: Um, it's not something I force
- 10:15Speaker: and I don't necessarily end up
- 10:17Speaker: walking every single day, but I
- 10:19Speaker: try not to let the weather slow
- 10:21Speaker: me down.
- 10:21Speaker: The only thing that really might slow me down is if I literally
- 10:24Speaker: have a work related appointment early in the morning, I'll walk
- 10:29Speaker: later in the afternoon.
- 10:30Speaker: Um, sometimes in the evening.
- 10:32Speaker: Although that's not my favorite time to walk.
- 10:34Speaker: But walking is definitely part of my rhythm, and I think
- 10:38Speaker: there's a connection between writing and walking, because I
- 10:43Speaker: know that I found a way to stay connected to my thinking.
- 10:46Speaker: And I also know that when I walk and I'm outside, I see people
- 10:53Speaker: and opportunities crop up in my life to do things or have
- 10:58Speaker: conversations because I'm engaging with my neighbors.
- 11:03Speaker: So take that for what it is.
- 11:07Speaker: Talking to people and interacting with people helps us
- 11:11Speaker: to see opportunities and to understand and learn what people
- 11:15Speaker: are going through in their life.
- 11:17Speaker: And just so many good things
- 11:20Speaker: happen when I get outside my
- 11:22Speaker: house and I walk and I see my
- 11:24Speaker: neighbors.
- 11:24Speaker: So, um, that's something that's very grounding for me.
- 11:28Speaker: And I love getting out and walking.
- 11:30Speaker: So my preferred thing to do is
- 11:31Speaker: get up, do my morning pages and
- 11:34Speaker: then walk.
- 11:36Speaker: The next thing, if I can, um, and then come home, eat
- 11:39Speaker: breakfast, eat some breakfast, take a shower and then be ready
- 11:43Speaker: for my day.
- 11:44Speaker: Sometimes during the week I'll
- 11:45Speaker: work and go into morning mass at
- 11:47Speaker: my local parish, which I love
- 11:49Speaker: doing also.
- 11:50Speaker: I would do that instead of
- 11:51Speaker: walking though, I would take my
- 11:53Speaker: shower and go to morning mass
- 11:54Speaker: and then come home and be ready
- 11:55Speaker: to work.
- 11:56Speaker: So I like doing that as well.
- 11:58Speaker: But the walking is hugely important for me.
- 12:01Speaker: And then the third thing is cooking.
- 12:04Speaker: Big surprise.
- 12:05Speaker: Um, even though we're a family of two now, all of our adult
- 12:09Speaker: children are out of the house.
- 12:11Speaker: Um, I was always cooking every
- 12:13Speaker: day for them when they were
- 12:14Speaker: younger.
- 12:15Speaker: Uh, either Warren or I prepared a meal every single day, if not
- 12:20Speaker: one more than one.
- 12:22Speaker: Especially during the summer when they were home from school.
- 12:25Speaker: But I think if we're going to be
- 12:26Speaker: cookbook writers, we have to be
- 12:28Speaker: cooking.
- 12:29Speaker: And if we're going to be writing
- 12:30Speaker: a baking book, we need to be
- 12:32Speaker: baking.
- 12:33Speaker: There is no way you can
- 12:34Speaker: outsource this and write a
- 12:36Speaker: cookbook.
- 12:37Speaker: Everything that you want to
- 12:38Speaker: write about becomes very real
- 12:40Speaker: when you're in the kitchen
- 12:41Speaker: cooking and paying attention to
- 12:43Speaker: what you're doing, noticing what
- 12:44Speaker: works, what doesn't work, what
- 12:46Speaker: you would change, how, how
- 12:47Speaker: recipes evolve.
- 12:49Speaker: Um, writing things down as you
- 12:51Speaker: go, capturing what's happening,
- 12:54Speaker: giving your perspective and your
- 12:56Speaker: recipes.
- 12:57Speaker: A point of view in the kitchen.
- 12:59Speaker: This is how I develop my recipes in every opportunity that I have
- 13:04Speaker: to cook for other people.
- 13:06Speaker: You can try something new.
- 13:07Speaker: I have a friend who had open
- 13:10Speaker: heart surgery a couple weeks
- 13:12Speaker: after she got home from her
- 13:13Speaker: surgery, I took dinner to her
- 13:15Speaker: house and sent her a little list
- 13:17Speaker: of things that I could cook for
- 13:18Speaker: her, and she chose a lemon orzo
- 13:21Speaker: chicken, and I made the recipe
- 13:24Speaker: from my head based on something
- 13:27Speaker: I had, excuse me done years ago,
- 13:29Speaker: but it was really fun to go
- 13:31Speaker: through the process of using
- 13:33Speaker: fresh lemons, oregano, dill, um,
- 13:36Speaker: the orzo, you know, browning the
- 13:39Speaker: chicken.
- 13:39Speaker: I usually use boneless chicken thighs for something like that.
- 13:43Speaker: I even sauteed the lemon so that
- 13:45Speaker: it was brown, cooked it all
- 13:46Speaker: together, kind of like a chicken
- 13:47Speaker: and rice, but it was Greek lemon
- 13:48Speaker: orzo chicken.
- 13:50Speaker: And, um, it was great to develop the recipe as I was cooking it
- 13:54Speaker: and to write it down, keep track of what I was doing.
- 14:00Speaker: And it totally makes me want to make that again or turn it into
- 14:04Speaker: something that I could maybe use, um, more permanently.
- 14:07Speaker: But cooking is really so, so important if you're wanting to
- 14:12Speaker: work on a cookbook project.
- 14:14Speaker: Um, I know for a fact that all of the people that I interview
- 14:19Speaker: for the cookbooks that they've written did develop most of the
- 14:25Speaker: work on their own.
- 14:26Speaker: I can think of a few that maybe used people helping them, but,
- 14:30Speaker: um, these people are in their kitchens cooking and writing
- 14:34Speaker: things down and it shows.
- 14:36Speaker: I can just tell by the types of
- 14:37Speaker: cookbooks that they're working
- 14:38Speaker: on.
- 14:39Speaker: Them so you can't get around cooking.
- 14:42Speaker: I think it's a huge part of my routine.
- 14:44Speaker: Um, I have been using, uh, delivery for groceries if
- 14:48Speaker: you're, um, wanting to use your time in other ways.
- 14:51Speaker: Uh, grocery delivery, it's if it's available in your area, it
- 14:55Speaker: works out great for us because it's actually a delivery service
- 15:00Speaker: that comes from Kroger.
- 15:01Speaker: It's not through Instacart or Uber Eats or anything like that.
- 15:05Speaker: So it's really been high quality produce and quite enjoyable to
- 15:10Speaker: be able to fill up my cart and order groceries and have them
- 15:14Speaker: delivered to my house.
- 15:17Speaker: Okay, so that's the third thing.
- 15:20Speaker: And then the fourth thing is,
- 15:21Speaker: um, regularly, I take time for
- 15:24Speaker: myself, do a solo outing, go do
- 15:27Speaker: something creative by myself,
- 15:30Speaker: maybe go to a new place around
- 15:32Speaker: town.
- 15:33Speaker: Uh, recently what I did was there's an art center down in
- 15:36Speaker: the, um, downtown area near where I live that offered a four
- 15:42Speaker: week lino cut printing class.
- 15:45Speaker: And it was on Tuesday evening, so I signed up for that.
- 15:48Speaker: Thoroughly enjoyed the linocut
- 15:50Speaker: class, learning how to carve out
- 15:53Speaker: the, um, the pad and then do the
- 15:56Speaker: printing.
- 15:57Speaker: And, uh, it was very fun to not
- 16:00Speaker: only design and print something
- 16:04Speaker: that I drew, but also to see
- 16:06Speaker: what other people in the class
- 16:07Speaker: were doing.
- 16:08Speaker: There was everything from animals.
- 16:10Speaker: Some people did radishes, citrus
- 16:13Speaker: slices, trees, um, anything that
- 16:16Speaker: you can imagine, a woodcut or a
- 16:18Speaker: linocut print being made into
- 16:20Speaker: flowers.
- 16:21Speaker: Um, the instructor did an owl and then we learned how to apply
- 16:26Speaker: watercolors for background or watercolors for features on top
- 16:31Speaker: of the linocut.
- 16:32Speaker: Um, so it was really fun.
- 16:33Speaker: And that's totally different
- 16:34Speaker: than writing or cooking, but
- 16:36Speaker: again, very tactile and it's
- 16:38Speaker: quite fascinating.
- 16:39Speaker: Quite a few younger women in the
- 16:41Speaker: class, they were taking the
- 16:42Speaker: class because they enjoy getting
- 16:45Speaker: off their phones and going out
- 16:46Speaker: and being with groups of people,
- 16:48Speaker: creating something with their
- 16:50Speaker: hands.
- 16:51Speaker: And one of them was new in town.
- 16:53Speaker: She just moved here from Louisville, was, you know,
- 16:56Speaker: trying to meet new people.
- 16:57Speaker: So I did enjoy, um, going to the
- 17:00Speaker: class, focusing on something
- 17:01Speaker: creative, listening to why
- 17:03Speaker: people were there and realizing
- 17:06Speaker: that this human need that we
- 17:09Speaker: have to connect with people and
- 17:11Speaker: to create is just part of who we
- 17:14Speaker: are.
- 17:15Speaker: And I don't think that AI will
- 17:18Speaker: help us do that unless maybe we
- 17:21Speaker: have it, help us plan a trip,
- 17:22Speaker: but we still then get out and
- 17:24Speaker: take the trip and connect with
- 17:25Speaker: people.
- 17:26Speaker: So, um, I think that when I look
- 17:30Speaker: at all of this together, the
- 17:32Speaker: things that I do from morning
- 17:34Speaker: pages to Just walking, cooking,
- 17:36Speaker: and then, uh, going out, taking
- 17:38Speaker: my time out for a solo outing or
- 17:41Speaker: solo adventures.
- 17:42Speaker: Um, I just see a rhythm to what I do and a rhythm to what I've
- 17:46Speaker: done over the years where I have time to think on my own, and I'm
- 17:51Speaker: time to be intentional and deliberate about what I do, and
- 17:56Speaker: to feel settled and connected and paying attention and
- 18:01Speaker: noticing what's going on.
- 18:03Speaker: All of those things are things
- 18:05Speaker: that I can uniquely bring to the
- 18:07Speaker: table, and so can you in a way
- 18:09Speaker: that I, AI will never be able to
- 18:12Speaker: do.
- 18:13Speaker: Those are the things that make us human.
- 18:15Speaker: And I think it's the things that
- 18:17Speaker: we really need to pay attention
- 18:19Speaker: to.
- 18:19Speaker: If we're feeling disconnected and relying more on technology
- 18:23Speaker: than we should.
- 18:24Speaker: Um, I encourage you to maybe try some of these things to help you
- 18:28Speaker: move forward and make decisions and be more present to the work
- 18:32Speaker: that you want to do, paying attention to going on.
- 18:34Speaker: What's to go.
- 18:35Speaker: To what's going on around you.
- 18:37Speaker: And approaching things and discerning things about, um.
- 18:41Speaker: You know what truly belongs in
- 18:43Speaker: your rhythms and routines and
- 18:45Speaker: habits and what can actually be
- 18:47Speaker: left out.
- 18:48Speaker: Because over time, as we become
- 18:51Speaker: more aware of how we're working,
- 18:53Speaker: we can move through the process,
- 18:55Speaker: we can make changes, we can
- 18:57Speaker: develop and lean into what
- 18:59Speaker: works.
- 18:59Speaker: We can use what we're doing for the work that we are writing
- 19:03Speaker: about or for the things that we're teaching people.
- 19:07Speaker: And again, this isn't something that you have to follow.
- 19:10Speaker: I just wanted to share what I
- 19:11Speaker: found is working for me, um, in
- 19:14Speaker: my life and has for many years
- 19:17Speaker: to help me be a person of
- 19:19Speaker: intention, truly leaning on the
- 19:21Speaker: things that I know make me
- 19:24Speaker: distinctly human.
- 19:26Speaker: So whether you want to write a cookbook, start a business, join
- 19:29Speaker: an online course, make an online course, sell an online course,
- 19:33Speaker: do more artwork, do more writing, do more journaling.
- 19:37Speaker: Remember, um, how you live and the rhythms that you create in
- 19:42Speaker: your own life are what is going to support you in that work.
- 19:47Speaker: And it's work that needs to be
- 19:49Speaker: something that you can stick
- 19:50Speaker: with.
- 19:51Speaker: You can stay with.
- 19:53Speaker: And it truly does become
- 19:54Speaker: foundational in everything that
- 19:57Speaker: you do.
- 19:59Speaker: So that is it for today's
- 20:00Speaker: episode of the Cookbook Love
- 20:02Speaker: Podcast.
- 20:03Speaker: This is your host, Maggie Green,
- 20:04Speaker: and until next time, I hope you
- 20:06Speaker: have a great day and keep loving
- 20:08Speaker: your cookbooks.
- 20:13Speaker: Thanks for listening to the Cookbook Love Podcast.
- 20:16Speaker: You can find out more information at WW dot.