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- 0:03Speaker 1: On a Tuesday morning in November two thousand nineteen, a
- 0:07Speaker 1: fisherwoman named Marie Riley pulled her trot line anchor cord
- 0:10Speaker 1: from the Alcot River and found a leather zip portfolio
- 0:14Speaker 1: snagged around it. The portfolio was embossed with a company
- 0:18Speaker 1: name in gold foil Ardent Foundry l LC. It had
- 0:22Speaker 1: been in that river for five years. The pages inside
- 0:27Speaker 1: were dry. That detail stopped investigator's cold. Dry pages, sharp ink,
- 0:34Speaker 1: legible signatures, a leather case submerged for half a decade,
- 0:39Speaker 1: and the documents inside looked like someone had filed them yesterday.
- 0:43Speaker 1: What came next was not a question of what the
- 0:46Speaker 1: river had swallowed. It was a question of what those
- 0:49Speaker 1: dry pages proved, and who had spent years making sure
- 0:53Speaker 1: they would never be seen again. There is something specific
- 0:56Speaker 1: about this case that resists easy description. It has no violence,
- 1:01Speaker 1: no physical confrontation. What it has instead is a sixteen
- 1:06Speaker 1: year process by which one person quietly dismantled another's understanding
- 1:10Speaker 1: of his own mind and then took everything he had built.
- 1:14Speaker 1: The story begins not with a crime scene, but with
- 1:17Speaker 1: a workshop. Winter two thousand three, Terot Hate, Indiana. Gordon
- 1:23Speaker 1: Schmidt was thirty eight years old in November two thousand nineteen.
- 1:29Speaker 1: He lived in a one bedroom apartment at Callaway Arms
- 1:33Speaker 1: in Northwestthold and worked as a product consultant at a
- 1:36Speaker 1: company called Crest Line Solutions. The job was steady, it
- 1:40Speaker 1: was not what he had imagined for himself. Gordon was,
- 1:44Speaker 1: by every account an inventor in the truest sense, not
- 1:49Speaker 1: an entrepreneur by temperament, someone who genuinely could not stop
- 1:54Speaker 1: designing things. He sketched on the backs of receipts. He
- 1:57Speaker 1: kept hand written spec sheets organized by date. He was,
- 2:01Speaker 1: according to later testimony, meticulous about his own handwriting. He
- 2:05Speaker 1: recognized every pen stroke he had ever made. Every morning,
- 2:09Speaker 1: at six forty five, Gordon ran a route that took
- 2:13Speaker 1: him past Founder's Mill. At the seven minute mark, he
- 2:16Speaker 1: touched the iron railing at the mill's entrance. He had
- 2:19Speaker 1: done this for years. His therapist, Ronda Simmons would later
- 2:24Speaker 1: note this habit in her case files. If Gordon missed
- 2:27Speaker 1: the railing, she wrote, the rest of the day felt
- 2:30Speaker 1: slightly unreal to him, A small ritual, a way of
- 2:34Speaker 1: confirming that something solid was where he expected it to be.
- 2:38Speaker 1: That detail matters more than it seems in the winter
- 2:41Speaker 1: of two thousand three, Gordon attended an entrepreneurship workshop at
- 2:46Speaker 1: Terre Haute Community College. He was there to learn. Lisa
- 2:51Speaker 1: Clark was there too. She was thirty one years old.
- 2:55Speaker 1: She had recently been a minority partner in a business
- 2:58Speaker 1: venture called Trellis Group based in Bloomington. That partnership had
- 3:03Speaker 1: dissolved under what would later be described only as unclear circumstances.
- 3:08Speaker 1: At the workshop, Lisa was attentive and sharp. She asked
- 3:12Speaker 1: the right questions. She remembered what Gordon said, and more specifically,
- 3:17Speaker 1: she remembered what he wanted. Two years later, in two
- 3:20Speaker 1: thousand and five, the two of them incorporated Ardent Foundry LLC.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Gordon held fifty one percent, Lisa held forty nine. Gordon
- 3:32Speaker 1: had the ideas. Lisa managed the business infrastructure, filings, contracts,
- 3:38Speaker 1: accountant coordination, external communications. It was a division of labor
- 3:43Speaker 1: that made sense on paper. Gordon could focus on what
- 3:46Speaker 1: he was good at, Lisa would handle the rest. Branda
- 3:49Speaker 1: Simmons would later use a precise phrase to describe what
- 3:52Speaker 1: happened next. She said, Lisa made Gordon feel lucky, not capable, lucky.
- 3:58Speaker 1: The distinction is everything A person who feels capable trusts
- 4:02Speaker 1: their own judgment. A person who feels lucky believes their
- 4:06Speaker 1: good outcomes are slightly accidental, dependent on the presence of
- 4:10Speaker 1: some one else, some one more grounded, some one who
- 4:13Speaker 1: keeps the whole thing from falling apart. By two thousand six,
- 4:17Speaker 1: Ardent Foundry had its first retailer deal. Gordon was in
- 4:21Speaker 1: the meeting when Lisa told him in front of accountant
- 4:24Speaker 1: Dennis Kwan that he had gotten the pricing wrong. It
- 4:27Speaker 1: was a small correction, delivered casually. Kwan said nothing. Gordon
- 4:33Speaker 1: adjusted the number. It was not the last time. By
- 4:37Speaker 1: two thousand eight, one of Gordon's designs, a catering transport system,
- 4:42Speaker 1: had been picked up by a regional distributor. Lisa described
- 4:45Speaker 1: it publicly as incorporating, in her words, significant modifications. Gordon
- 4:51Speaker 1: had no reason to challenge her on that. She was
- 4:54Speaker 1: the one who managed the paperwork. She was the one
- 4:57Speaker 1: who knew what had been filed and when he trusted her.
- 5:01Speaker 1: That trust was the mechanism, and in spring two thousand
- 5:05Speaker 1: nine it would be used against him for the first
- 5:07Speaker 1: time in a way that left a paper trail, a
- 5:10Speaker 1: trail that would spend the next ten years at the
- 5:13Speaker 1: bottom of a river. Wednesday, April fifteenth, two thousand nine,
- 5:17Speaker 1: Gordon Schmidt was sixty miles from the Ardent Foundry office
- 5:21Speaker 1: in a recovery room at Saint Agnes Medical Center in
- 5:25Speaker 1: Terre Hate. He had come out of surgery the day before.
- 5:29Speaker 1: The attending notes authorized him for light ambulation only he
- 5:33Speaker 1: could walk to the bathroom. He could not drive. He
- 5:36Speaker 1: could not travel. That morning, two term sheets for a
- 5:39Speaker 1: two hundred forty thousand dollar licensing deal were signed in
- 5:43Speaker 1: his name. The signature looked like his. It had the
- 5:47Speaker 1: same slight forward lean, the same compressed loop on the G.
- 5:52Speaker 1: But Gordon Schmidt was not in that room. He was
- 5:54Speaker 1: in a hospital bed sixty miles away, and the paperwork
- 5:58Speaker 1: had gone through without a single question. Dennis Kuan, Ardent
- 6:01Speaker 1: Foundry's accountant, later told Detective Owen Bast something that stopped
- 6:06Speaker 1: the investigation in place. He said Lisa had called him
- 6:10Speaker 1: that same week casually to ask about Gordon's recovery timeline.
- 6:15Speaker 1: She had phrased it as concern. Kuan had thought nothing
- 6:18Speaker 1: of it. He had given her the discharge estimate. She
- 6:22Speaker 1: had known exactly when Gordon would be unavailable. She had
- 6:25Speaker 1: known exactly how long she had. The fireproof box had
- 6:29Speaker 1: been at the Ardent Foundry office for years. Gordon knew it.
- 6:33Speaker 1: It held the original documents, product specs, early contracts, the
- 6:39Speaker 1: foundational record of what had been built and by whom.
- 6:43Speaker 1: When the company dissolved in summer twenty fourteen, the box disappeared.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Gordon noticed it was gone. Lisa told him she had
- 6:52Speaker 1: handled the windown. He had accepted that, he had accepted
- 6:55Speaker 1: a great many things by then. There is something in
- 6:58Speaker 1: this story that resists easy explanation. Not the fraud itself,
- 7:03Speaker 1: but the silence surrounded Gordon did not fight the dissolution.
- 7:07Speaker 1: He took forty three thousand dollars, signed a release of
- 7:10Speaker 1: all claims, and moved on. From the outside, that looks
- 7:15Speaker 1: like passivity, but Rhonda Simmons would spend years unpacking why
- 7:19Speaker 1: a person who had built something real could walk away
- 7:22Speaker 1: from it without fully understanding what he was leaving behind.
- 7:27Speaker 1: The answer was already in the numbers. By twoenty thirteen,
- 7:31Speaker 1: Gordon had asked twice to review the trademark filings. Lisa
- 7:35Speaker 1: had told him the applications were pending and that she
- 7:38Speaker 1: was handling it. The second time she said something more specific.
- 7:43Speaker 1: She said, you get lost in the paperwork. That's not
- 7:46Speaker 1: where you add value. Gordon did not ask a third
- 7:49Speaker 1: time that sentence had done its work. It was not
- 7:52Speaker 1: a threat, It was not an accusation. It was a
- 7:56Speaker 1: small repositioning, a quiet instruction about where Gordon's competence ended
- 8:01Speaker 1: and some one else's began. By the time the box disappeared,
- 8:05Speaker 1: Gordon had already been told in a hundred small ways
- 8:08Speaker 1: that the administrative record of Ardent Foundry was not really
- 8:12Speaker 1: his territory. In November two thousand fourteen, four months after
- 8:17Speaker 1: the dissolution, Lisa Clark paid Joel Wren cash to dispose
- 8:22Speaker 1: of that box. Wren was a business associate who had
- 8:25Speaker 1: rented storage to Ardent Foundry. He drove to the Root
- 8:29Speaker 1: nine Bridge and threw the box over the railing. He
- 8:32Speaker 1: watched it hit the Alcott River. He assumed the contents sank.
- 8:37Speaker 1: He did not know about the ziplock bag inside The
- 8:40Speaker 1: bag sealed around a USB drive, two signed term sheets,
- 8:44Speaker 1: and a set of hand written product specifications dated two
- 8:47Speaker 1: thousand eight. The fire proof box did what it was
- 8:50Speaker 1: designed to do. It kept the water out long enough.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Then something shifted in the current and the box cracked open.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Wren was already gone. The bag floated for five years.
- 9:03Speaker 1: It moved through the river until a trot line anchor
- 9:06Speaker 1: cord in November two thousand nineteen snagged it and a
- 9:10Speaker 1: fisherwoman named Marie Riley pulled it out of the water
- 9:13Speaker 1: on a Tuesday morning. She opened the portfolio and found
- 9:17Speaker 1: dry pages, sharp ink, legible signatures. Gordon Schmidt was thirty
- 9:23Speaker 1: eight years old and working as a product consultant at
- 9:26Speaker 1: Crestline Solutions when Detective Bast called him. He was living
- 9:30Speaker 1: in Apartment four at Callaway Arms, Northwest Hold, and the
- 9:34Speaker 1: name Ardent Foundry was five years behind him. Bast described
- 9:39Speaker 1: the portfolio. He described the embossed gold foil. He described
- 9:43Speaker 1: the documents inside. Gordon said, those are my original documents.
- 9:48Speaker 1: She told me she destroyed them. Bast pulled the term
- 9:51Speaker 1: sheets from the zip lock bag and looked at the
- 9:54Speaker 1: signature on the two thousand nine licensing deal. Then he
- 9:58Speaker 1: pulled Gordon's hospital records from Saint Agnes Medical Center. The
- 10:02Speaker 1: admission date, the procedure notes, the authorization for light ambulation,
- 10:07Speaker 1: the discharge date. The signature was dated the Wednesday Gordon
- 10:11Speaker 1: was postop sixty miles away. Now here is the thing
- 10:15Speaker 1: that reframes everything that came before it. Gordon looked at
- 10:19Speaker 1: that signature, his signature, his exact handwriting, and he had
- 10:24Speaker 1: no memory of signing it, not a blurry memory, not
- 10:27Speaker 1: an uncertain one, no memory at all, And for a moment,
- 10:31Speaker 1: that absence felt familiar, because for years his memory had
- 10:35Speaker 1: been the thing in question. Lisa had built an entire
- 10:38Speaker 1: architecture around the idea that Gordon's recollection was soft, that
- 10:43Speaker 1: he got confused, that he got lost in the details.
- 10:47Speaker 1: The defense would use that exact architecture at trial. They
- 10:50Speaker 1: argued Gordon's memory was impaired, that his account of his
- 10:54Speaker 1: own intellectual contributions could not be trusted. Rnda Simmons took
- 10:58Speaker 1: the stand and nameimed what had happened. She called it
- 11:02Speaker 1: retroactive authorship transfer. She described a process by which Gordon's
- 11:07Speaker 1: memory of his own competence had been incrementally rewritten, not
- 11:12Speaker 1: through force, but through the steady accumulation of small corrections
- 11:16Speaker 1: withheld information and strategic redirection. By twenty thirteen, she testified,
- 11:22Speaker 1: Gordon had handed over intellectual ownership of everything he had
- 11:26Speaker 1: made without a signed document, and without a legal proceeding.
- 11:30Speaker 1: He had simply been taught not to trust himself. The
- 11:33Speaker 1: defense's argument that Gordon's memory could not be relied upon
- 11:37Speaker 1: he was. Simmons told the jury the final application of
- 11:41Speaker 1: the same mechanism used throughout the relationship. The jury deliberated
- 11:46Speaker 1: for eleven hours, but before the verdict, there was one
- 11:49Speaker 1: more thread. Frank Castillo, the intellectual property attorney Lisa, had
- 11:54Speaker 1: retained in secret, paid from a sub account Gordon had
- 11:58Speaker 1: no access to means told by asked that the trademark
- 12:01Speaker 1: had been sold to a national restaurant's supply chain. His
- 12:05Speaker 1: figure was approximately six hundred thousand dollars. That figure was
- 12:09Speaker 1: his statement, not a confirmed public filing. But Castillo was
- 12:13Speaker 1: facing a bar complaint by two thousand nineteen, and he
- 12:18Speaker 1: had reason to cooperate. The two thousand and eight spec
- 12:21Speaker 1: sheets in the portfolio matched the trademark filing's technical description
- 12:26Speaker 1: almost word for word, Gordon's handwriting, Gordon's measurements, Gordon's product.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Sole listed inventor Lisa Clark stan Hoyt was not part
- 12:37Speaker 1: of the Ardent Foundry case. He had been a majority
- 12:40Speaker 1: partner in a different company, Trellis Group, Bloomington, two thousand
- 12:45Speaker 1: and one, and that partnership had dissolved under circumstances no
- 12:49Speaker 1: one had fully explained. By the time investigators looked at
- 12:53Speaker 1: the pattern, Hoyt said something that did not appear in
- 12:56Speaker 1: any legal filing. He said he had spent years unsure
- 13:00Speaker 1: or whether his ideas had ever been his. The mechanism,
- 13:03Speaker 1: it turned out, had a history picture the moment bast
- 13:06Speaker 1: laid the hospital records next to the term sheets. One
- 13:10Speaker 1: document said Gordon Schmidt was sixty miles away, authorized for
- 13:15Speaker 1: light ambulation only. The other document carried his signature, dated
- 13:20Speaker 1: the same day. You cannot hold both of those facts
- 13:24Speaker 1: and reach a comfortable conclusion. One of them is a fabrication,
- 13:28Speaker 1: and the fabrication required knowing exactly when Gordon would be
- 13:32Speaker 1: unable to respond, exactly how long the window was, and
- 13:36Speaker 1: exactly what his handwriting looked like well enough to reproduce it.
- 13:41Speaker 1: That is not opportunism. That is preparation, and preparation requires
- 13:47Speaker 1: a timeline, which means the forged signature in two thousand
- 13:50Speaker 1: and nine was not the beginning. It was the moment
- 13:53Speaker 1: the preparation became a paper trail. Lisa Clark was charged
- 13:57Speaker 1: In March twenty twenty, she was charged charged with multiple
- 14:01Speaker 1: counts fraud, forgery, and theft by deception. The charge sheet
- 14:06Speaker 1: was straightforward, in the way that legal language always is.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Clean verbs, passive constructions, no mention of a railing anyone
- 14:14Speaker 1: needed to touch to feel real. The defense had one argument.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Gordon's memory was impaired, his recollection of events was unreliable,
- 14:24Speaker 1: and any claim he made about authorship or signatures should
- 14:28Speaker 1: be weighed against that unreliability. It was, in hindsight, the
- 14:32Speaker 1: same argument the mechanism had always made. The defense was
- 14:36Speaker 1: the mechanism RNDA Simmons took the stand and named it.
- 14:40Speaker 1: She testified that the impairment claim was not evidence of
- 14:43Speaker 1: Gordon's confusion. It was, in her words, the final application
- 14:47Speaker 1: of the same mechanism used throughout the relationship. The very
- 14:51Speaker 1: thing the defense pointed to as proof of Gordon's unreliability
- 14:55Speaker 1: was the thing Lisa had spent years constructing. Simmons called
- 14:59Speaker 1: it retroact of authorship transfer. She explained how it worked
- 15:03Speaker 1: not through a single lie, but through accumulated correction until
- 15:07Speaker 1: the target could no longer trust his own account of events.
- 15:11Speaker 1: The jury deliberated eleven hours they convicted on all three counts.
- 15:16Speaker 1: The sentence was six years two suspended. Lisa Clarke maintained
- 15:22Speaker 1: through the entire trial that the forged signature was valid.
- 15:26Speaker 1: She did not change that position after the verdict. Gordon
- 15:29Speaker 1: Schmidt did not attend sentencing. He was on his morning run.
- 15:34Speaker 1: There is something precise about that detail, not dramatic precise.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Gordon had a life before the investigation. He had a
- 15:42Speaker 1: life during it. He had an apartment in northwest Holt,
- 15:46Speaker 1: a job at Crestline Solutions, a route along Founder's Mill
- 15:50Speaker 1: where he touched an iron railing at the seven minute
- 15:53Speaker 1: mark every morning. At six forty five, the trial ended,
- 15:58Speaker 1: the sentence was handed down and Gordon Schmidt went for
- 16:02Speaker 1: a run. Pete Ashford, his friend, sent him a text
- 16:06Speaker 1: with the verdict while he was still out on the course.
- 16:10Speaker 1: The portfolio, the leather zip case with the gold foil embossing,
- 16:14Speaker 1: the ziplock bag, the U. S B Drive, the speck
- 16:17Speaker 1: sheets in Gordon's handwriting. The term sheets with the forged
- 16:21Speaker 1: signature was entered into evidence. After the trial concluded, it
- 16:25Speaker 1: was transferred to Gordon Schmidt as its rightful owner. He
- 16:29Speaker 1: kept the original speck sheets. The handwritten product specifications from
- 16:33Speaker 1: two thousand eight. The ones that matched the trademark filing
- 16:37Speaker 1: almost word for word. Those he kept. He did not
- 16:41Speaker 1: keep the term sheets with the forged signature. That is
- 16:44Speaker 1: not a minor distinction. Gordon Schmidt chose to retain the
- 16:47Speaker 1: documents that proved what he had made. He chose not
- 16:50Speaker 1: to retain the documents that proved what had been done
- 16:53Speaker 1: to him. One set of papers was his work. The
- 16:56Speaker 1: other set of papers was some one else's story about him.
- 17:00Speaker 1: He already knew which one he needed, He told Rohnda Simmons,
- 17:04Speaker 1: I knew what my handwriting looked like. I'd always known.
- 17:07Speaker 1: That sentence had been true the entire time. It had
- 17:11Speaker 1: been true in two thousand nine when the signature was forged,
- 17:15Speaker 1: True in two thousand twelve when he asked about the
- 17:17Speaker 1: trade mark and Lisa used the word r true in
- 17:22Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen when she told him he got lost
- 17:25Speaker 1: in the paperwork, that that wasn't where he added value.
- 17:29Speaker 1: The sentence had always been true. The mechanism's job was
- 17:33Speaker 1: to make him stop saying it out loud. Frank Castilla,
- 17:36Speaker 1: the IP attorney Lisa had retained in secret and paid
- 17:40Speaker 1: from a sub account Gordon couldn't access was facing a
- 17:43Speaker 1: bar complaint. By two thousand nineteen, he co operated with investigators.
- 17:48Speaker 1: His account placed the trade mark sale at approximately six
- 17:52Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars paid by a national restaurant supply chain.
- 17:57Speaker 1: That figure was his statement. It was not a confirmed
- 18:00Speaker 1: public filing, but Castillo had detailed knowledge of the transaction,
- 18:05Speaker 1: the engagement, the sub account, the timeline that corroborated the
- 18:09Speaker 1: physical evidence recovered from the Alcott River. Joel Wrenn, who
- 18:14Speaker 1: had rented storage space to Ardent Foundry and accepted cash
- 18:18Speaker 1: from Lisa to dispose of a fireproof box in November
- 18:21Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, confirmed what he had done. He had driven
- 18:25Speaker 1: to the Route nine bridge. He had thrown the box
- 18:29Speaker 1: over the railing. He had assumed the contents sank. He
- 18:33Speaker 1: had not known about the ziplock bag. That oversight a
- 18:37Speaker 1: waterproof lining inside a box meant to disappear is the
- 18:41Speaker 1: only reason any of this was ever found. Five years
- 18:45Speaker 1: in the current of the Alcott River and the documents
- 18:48Speaker 1: inside came out legible. Stan Hoyt, the majority partner in
- 18:52Speaker 1: Trellis Group, was never part of the Ardent Foundry case.
- 18:55Speaker 1: No charges were ever filed in connection with the Bloomington dissolution,
- 18:59Speaker 1: but his account of that earlier partnership years spent unsure
- 19:03Speaker 1: whether his ideas had ever been his established something. The
- 19:07Speaker 1: evidence alone could not fully show that the mechanism had
- 19:10Speaker 1: been used before, But Gordon Schmidt was not the first
- 19:14Speaker 1: person to sit across a table from Lisa Clark and
- 19:17Speaker 1: gradually stopped trusting his own memory. When investigators first pulled
- 19:21Speaker 1: the portfolio from Marie Riley's hands and laid its contents
- 19:25Speaker 1: under a light, they were looking at an inventory problem,
- 19:29Speaker 1: dry paper, legible ink, a company name in gold foil,
- 19:34Speaker 1: on a case that had spent an indeterminate number of
- 19:37Speaker 1: years in river sediment. The immediate question was practical, whose
- 19:41Speaker 1: documents were these and where had they come from? That
- 19:45Speaker 1: question answered became a different question entirely because what the
- 19:50Speaker 1: portfolio documented was not only a financial crime. It documented
- 19:54Speaker 1: a process. A way of standing next to someone over
- 19:58Speaker 1: years and slowly replacing their account of themselves with a
- 20:02Speaker 1: version you control, A way of making a person's own
- 20:05Speaker 1: competence feel like luck borrowed unearned contingent on your presence,
- 20:11Speaker 1: A way of constructing correction by correction. A version of
- 20:15Speaker 1: events so complete that when someone finally shows you your
- 20:19Speaker 1: own handwriting, you have to pause before you're certain it's yours.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Ronda Simmons put it plainly in her final case note,
- 20:27Speaker 1: the patient presented with near total erosion of epistemic self trust,
- 20:31Speaker 1: recovery was possible. The mechanism, once named, loses most of
- 20:36Speaker 1: its power. The difficulty, she wrote, is the naming. Gordon
- 20:40Speaker 1: Schmidt named it not easily and not all at once,
- 20:44Speaker 1: but he named it. He kept the spec sheets because
- 20:47Speaker 1: he already knew what they said. He skipped the sentencing
- 20:50Speaker 1: because the verdict wasn't the point. The point was the run,
- 20:54Speaker 1: the railing, the seven minute mark, the morning routine that
- 20:58Speaker 1: belonged to him, regardless of what a jury decided in
- 21:01Speaker 1: a room sixty miles away. Some damage has no verdict
- 21:05Speaker 1: attached to it. What stan Hoyt described, years of not
- 21:09Speaker 1: knowing whether his ideas wherever his, does not appear in
- 21:12Speaker 1: any chart sheet. What Gordon Schmidt lost between two thousand
- 21:16Speaker 1: five and two thousand fourteen, the years of creative work
- 21:20Speaker 1: filtered through someone else's corrections until his own contributions felt
- 21:25Speaker 1: like accidents. That loss does not have a line item
- 21:28Speaker 1: in a fraud indictment. The mechanism works precisely because it
- 21:32Speaker 1: leaves no mark that a court can measure. What the
- 21:35Speaker 1: Alcot River returned in the end was a record, not complete,
- 21:40Speaker 1: not without gaps, but a record. Here is what he made.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Here is when he made it. Here is his handwriting
- 21:46Speaker 1: on a page that predates the trademark by three years.
- 21:49Speaker 1: The river kept it, The ziploc bag kept it. Joel
- 21:53Speaker 1: Wren's incomplete job kept it. Gordon Schmidt was thirty eight
- 21:57Speaker 1: years old when Marie Riley pulled his port from the water.
- 22:01Speaker 1: He had been living for five years without knowing that
- 22:04Speaker 1: the box Lisa Clark paid to disappear had not in
- 22:08Speaker 1: fact disappeared. He went for a run the morning the
- 22:11Speaker 1: sentence came down. Pete Ashford sent the text. Gordon read
- 22:15Speaker 1: it on the course at some point after the seven
- 22:18Speaker 1: minute mark, after the railing, the case was closed. The
- 22:21Speaker 1: spec sheets were his. They had always been his. This
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