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#93 Do Dads Ever Feel "Dad Guilt"? · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

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  Speaker 1: Big breath.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Also, I do want to say thank you
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  Speaker 2: for taking a video in my vulnerable state.
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  Speaker 1: Can't tell if you're annoyed by that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a hand down my pants and I was snoring
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  Speaker 2: on your couch, so will you tell me?
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was a very cute little video. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you were snoring. Your hand like it wasn't in the
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  Speaker 3: front of your pants, it was on the side. It
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  Speaker 3: was very endearing. People loved it. Scuse my cock's on
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  Speaker 3: my hip.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to two doating dads.
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  Speaker 3: I am Maddie Jay and I'm Ash and this is
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  Speaker 3: a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, it
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  Speaker 3: is a bad. So that's my line and relatable. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: that's miss And if you've come for advice, not from us,
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  Speaker 3: sorry to tell you not to day, but if you've
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  Speaker 3: come to listen to two idiots, well welcome. Welcome a
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  Speaker 3: boy Ash before we get into this. Yeah, fantastic episode.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be a fair I can feel it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do for a good one. We're both well. I
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  Speaker 2: am very tired all the time, so I feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be good.
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  Speaker 1: How many hours did you get last night? Last night
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  Speaker 1: was good? How many so fine hours. That's too much.
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  Speaker 2: You know I needed it from the previous night, which
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  Speaker 2: we will talk about. We'll get into that very short.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you know I needed it, but I'm still tired.
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  Speaker 2: Ash.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I have something very special for you, a gift,
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  Speaker 1: if you.
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  Speaker 2: Will, Matthew, you are the only gift I need. That's
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  Speaker 2: very sweet. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember we had a segment a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: It was apparenting hack or funck.
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  Speaker 2: Oh what is it? Tron? I don't know why?
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  Speaker 3: It says Tron. This is the disposable potty, the magic hat.
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  Speaker 2: Am I going to poop? Yes on this podcast?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Gus, give me a look.
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  Speaker 2: Don't don't withhold it from me. That's so many years
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  Speaker 2: in that all the three pack. It is, Tron. It's
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  Speaker 2: more than that three barly reusable. Can I open it?
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  Speaker 4: I thought you'd never asked, Oh, where's this from?
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  Speaker 2: Just one for me?
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  Speaker 1: Thinks this is all away from the UK.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so we're just currently unwrapping. So this is for
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  Speaker 3: those of you wondering. We I found this onliners on
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  Speaker 3: social media. It was a portable potty. Imagine a cardboard
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  Speaker 3: magician's hat that you would bring with you have it
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  Speaker 3: stored in the car, and if your child needs to
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  Speaker 3: do a number two and you're in the car, you
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  Speaker 3: can then pop this at like the floor of the
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  Speaker 3: back of the car.
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  Speaker 1: Did you say hat? They quite were design?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Wait wait wait wait wait wait.
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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, let's let's let's try it on the floor.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe as she's currently opening up the disposable potty, very
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  Speaker 3: quick to set up.
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  Speaker 1: I might just add.
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  Speaker 3: It's got a little absorbent pap done mate, plastic lining
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  Speaker 3: with a little pattern side.
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  Speaker 1: Take pens off, Take pans off.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna cost you more than that. Man, are your
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  Speaker 3: pants off and we line it up? Fuck you sat
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  Speaker 3: on the end. You didn't sit in a flush. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it's bill for adults.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still going to go. Just do it in the bush.
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  Speaker 3: Was it worth spending forty dollars to get that delivered
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  Speaker 3: all the way.
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  Speaker 2: From what he do?
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  Speaker 1: How much was it, Jess?
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  Speaker 2: Eighty eighty bucks? Eighty dollars that's coming out of your pay.
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  Speaker 1: Holy Yeah, Okay, I thought I would give it a
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  Speaker 1: second chance.
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  Speaker 2: I think look for the environment. Just do it in
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  Speaker 2: a bush.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree, Okay, didn't bury I think
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  Speaker 3: of that seven two dollars. About sixty two of that
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  Speaker 3: was for postage to get an express shipped over here.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy and it does say one to six year olds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're obviously too heavy, but like, like, dig a hole, Dig.
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  Speaker 3: A hole, please, who's got time to dig a hole
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  Speaker 3: on the side of the road with a toddler?
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  Speaker 1: Not me, not any parent.
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  Speaker 2: Just bend him over, like my mate, Mike, his kid.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to mic Handsome Mike.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I call him, handsome Mic ho chippies. We're
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  Speaker 2: at the skatepark and then a kid needs to do
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  Speaker 2: a bush pooh. I was go wanted to watch, of course.
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  Speaker 2: And concerning mate, the shot out like a cannon. It
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  Speaker 2: made a noise like a straight to the bush quick, wife,
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  Speaker 2: I will get that checked out. He's the anal PSI
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  Speaker 2: on that boy. He's going to give me ampressive of prolapse. Yeah. Probably.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want of those audi assholes, Tom, he's an adult.
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  Speaker 1: Goodness, speaking of oudy assholes, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you? I'm good, I'm very good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm You're just mate, Like I said, holding down the
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  Speaker 3: fort and I just want to I just want to
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  Speaker 3: say ash. I mean this with every fiber in my body.
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  Speaker 3: You were doing an amazing job right now.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. I am battling on. I'm soldiering on.
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  Speaker 2: Just for context, my wife is very sick. She's some
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  Speaker 2: would call a bedridden. And look she's trying to like
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  Speaker 2: get on with it and not act like she's not sick,
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  Speaker 2: but like trying to think that she needs to be
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  Speaker 2: the hero to keep the house going, which is trip.
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  Speaker 3: This family only needs one hero and that hero is Ashwear.
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  Speaker 2: It's me at the moment. So she is at home,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully she's not working, and hopefully because I can't watch
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  Speaker 2: her all the time, I was like her when I left.
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  Speaker 1: Just watch you look after her? Get some rest? Would
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  Speaker 1: you like shut the curtains. I can't watch you can't
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  Speaker 1: watch her all the time.
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  Speaker 2: How do you?
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  Speaker 1: How do you look? After April?
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  Speaker 2: Just watching her in the corner of the room has
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  Speaker 2: pinned out, as are you rest? I just I know
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  Speaker 2: that she wouldn't be in bed with the you know,
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  Speaker 2: trying to get some round.
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  Speaker 1: I know she'd be sending emails right now.
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  Speaker 2: She would be she'd be yeah, she'd be sending emails DM,
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  Speaker 2: she'd be doing washing, and she'd be absolutely battling because
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  Speaker 2: you know, women soldier on us men. No I'm straight
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  Speaker 2: to sleep. Sorry, I'm just a carrier and now I'm
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  Speaker 2: carrying on to you. But yeah, that's very tired. We
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  Speaker 2: did have and we were lucky enough the other night
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  Speaker 2: to be invited to Manly see Eagles Awards night. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how we got there, but we did. They
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  Speaker 2: love you over there. It was It was a very
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  Speaker 2: nice It was a beautiful effect. The food was amazing
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  Speaker 2: and like I said, I never really eat the event,
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  Speaker 2: so more of a drinker.
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  Speaker 3: But you said, and I quote, that's the first function
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  Speaker 3: I've ever been to where I've eaten something.
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  Speaker 2: For sure. One time I was at a wedding and
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  Speaker 2: I ate a whole bowl of potatoes and that's the
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  Speaker 2: only other part. So yeah, it was a lovely affair,
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  Speaker 2: lots of really nice people for dreams.
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  Speaker 3: But also I feel like it's the first time you've
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  Speaker 3: been invited to something as prestigious as that you do.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like you would take a bullet for mainly
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  Speaker 3: the NRL team for those wondering, And you went to
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  Speaker 3: that event and you had a couple of cheeky beers
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  Speaker 3: and you were home at a very reasonable.
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  Speaker 2: Hour, which is unlike you were like, it's concerning to
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  Speaker 2: you because of how much fuel you probably have left
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  Speaker 2: in the tank, And honestly I was. I was fatigued then,
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  Speaker 2: so like I was like happy to get home before midnight.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to let the listeners know about something
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  Speaker 3: in particular that was a standout.
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  Speaker 1: For me at the event.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, there is one manly player who was very
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  Speaker 3: well known. He's now retired, one of the most famous
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  Speaker 3: manly players. His name is Steve Menzies.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that one player happens to be the only player
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  Speaker 3: that you've had to run in.
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  Speaker 2: With yeah while ago, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you were like, god, I wonder if I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to see Steve menzi.
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  Speaker 2: We saw him in the lobby and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: let's avoid Steve.
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  Speaker 3: Can you just inform the listeners why you and Steve
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  Speaker 3: Menzies may not like each other?
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  Speaker 2: First of all, we said, let's avoid Steve Menzies. Then
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  Speaker 2: we got shown to our table and guess who was
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  Speaker 2: sitting next to not saying it, on the same table,
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  Speaker 2: and you took a bullet straight up and sat right
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  Speaker 2: next to us.
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  Speaker 3: I messaged Manly and said, can we can, we request
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  Speaker 3: to see.
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  Speaker 1: To write manly people together again.
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  Speaker 2: So we were sat right next to him, and he
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  Speaker 2: didn't at first we were it was fine. It was
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's a lovely guy and I just want
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  Speaker 2: to just set the time. He is one of the
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  Speaker 2: greatest players to ever be produced. He is. He is
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  Speaker 2: a lovely man and a beautiful wife, and wife is
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  Speaker 2: to see that everyone at the man in the organization,
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  Speaker 2: if you're listening, you're very lovely. Anyway, I went on
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  Speaker 2: to say to Steve, you don't remember me? Do And
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  Speaker 2: it was a few years.
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  Speaker 3: Ago, and you said that I think we'd had four awards,
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  Speaker 3: we had the entrees, and it was lovely. There was
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  Speaker 3: no tension at the table, and I thought, hey, maybe
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  Speaker 3: maybe you won't bring it up because there's no need
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  Speaker 3: to because everyone's having a great time.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's been polite. Oh I'm going to bring it up.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, Steve, you do you remember me?
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  Speaker 2: I did leave a part out of the story to
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  Speaker 2: him that I recalled that I'll say it here, but
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  Speaker 2: I did say, Steve, do you remember me? And he
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  Speaker 2: was He was kind of like, and look, I'm older,
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  Speaker 2: I have way more tattoos now. Some would say, my
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  Speaker 2: crow's feet are way more obvious. Now I was just
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  Speaker 2: a child.
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  Speaker 1: And Steve would also meet a lot of people everywhere
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  Speaker 1: he goes people he did ask him for a photo.
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  Speaker 2: We won this competition through a friend of mine and
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  Speaker 2: it was four of us who would get to be
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  Speaker 2: go and watch a Sunday afternoon game Downbrook Value the
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  Speaker 2: Fortress as we call it, and to sit in the
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  Speaker 2: back of a ute and watch the game. So we're
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  Speaker 2: a bit higher on the hill. Free beers, free food,
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  Speaker 2: the whole bit. But also Steve Menzies picks you up,
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  Speaker 2: take you there personally, which is a lovely touch, lovely gesture.
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  Speaker 2: He's picked us up. I was already pierced when he
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  Speaker 2: picked me up. And he picked me up and he
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  Speaker 2: had his kids in the car, and you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I'm my grandkids. I don't hold my tongue whatsoever. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm like fucking tongue lashing around the place.
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  Speaker 3: Also gold I to say, that's on Steve. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: his fault for reading the kids. He obviously forgot that
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  Speaker 3: he had the kids that afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then his wife's like, well, I'm off to
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  Speaker 2: see the girls.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, but I'm picking up these boys, and he said,
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  Speaker 3: well bring the kids.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, what's the worst could happen?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ash is the worst that could happen, exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: And it was a forty degree day and we flogged
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  Speaker 2: Parah and he was like, I do remember the game.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the game. And we had photos and stuff,
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  Speaker 2: which were nice photos. He was like, fuck, I really
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  Speaker 2: want to find the photo. But the thing that at
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  Speaker 2: the time, which really annoyed Steve was and look he
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  Speaker 2: gets pulled left, right and center when he goes. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: wants a photo with Steve Men because he's a cult hero.
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  Speaker 2: But I wanted it to be the point of different.
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  Speaker 2: So I actually, and I didn't tell you this through
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  Speaker 2: the whole day, called him my close and personal friend
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  Speaker 2: Steve Man. That's how I referred to him the whole day.
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  Speaker 2: So he had that I spewed up a couple of
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  Speaker 2: times during the day because it was very hot.
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  Speaker 3: Can I ask you mentioned free food? Did you have
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  Speaker 3: any food?
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  Speaker 2: And I did.
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  Speaker 1: I did take it for myself, just be up in
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: Just so that everybody knows it was one time in
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  Speaker 2: Steve's car, But what really happened was where I said
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  Speaker 2: to him, we had it. Do you remember we had
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  Speaker 2: a stoush because this is how it wasn't how the
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  Speaker 2: afternoon ended, but we had a stoush of sorts and
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  Speaker 2: we went to the league's club afterwards, all of us
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  Speaker 2: because it was to finish the day. You go to
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  Speaker 2: this function, which I didn't get into the function because
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  Speaker 2: of this situation. I everyone that day who stopped Steve.
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  Speaker 2: He was given autographs out. He's a lovely guy. Like
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  Speaker 2: I said, he was just had enough of me. And
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  Speaker 2: then the at this lease, I've got to sign in.
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  Speaker 2: He signed me in with sm only and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: so everyone else gets a signature and I just get
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  Speaker 2: the initials.
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  Speaker 1: And we had a bit of a stoush in that moment.
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  Speaker 2: And then I'd play stumbled out and gone home because
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  Speaker 2: I was just cool coming in volment it involvement and cook.
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  Speaker 2: And then a little while later he actually because he's
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  Speaker 2: he works a nine to five now he's age broke,
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  Speaker 2: he's a mortgage broken and he actually used to get
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  Speaker 2: on sometimes we get on the bus that I was
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  Speaker 2: on in the morning, and I remember one time it
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  Speaker 2: was a big bendy bus and I was at the
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  Speaker 2: front there's no other seats. He walked on. And this
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  Speaker 2: was close to the time. This all happened not long after,
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  Speaker 2: and he got on the bus and I was my
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  Speaker 2: seat and nose on next to me. Only the bus
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  Speaker 2: was full. He took one look at it and got
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  Speaker 2: off the bus. No joke, And I'm talking about this
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  Speaker 2: might be ten years ago now.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he just realized if he got his wallet, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't end there.
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  Speaker 2: My friends, Okay, I used to go to the league's
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  Speaker 2: club gym, and I remember there was the what do
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  Speaker 2: they call this press machine? Chest press chess, just say
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  Speaker 2: chest press machine that faced the door, so when you're
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  Speaker 2: walking in, you just lock eyes with that person. I
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  Speaker 2: was on that machine. Steve walks into the leg's club gym,
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  Speaker 2: seize me, We lock eyes. He turns around and he
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  Speaker 2: walked out. That's twice, and that was ten years ago. Again.
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  Speaker 1: Could have forgotten his wallet, could have could have been
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  Speaker 1: and he's.
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  Speaker 2: Gone on coincidence.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but I mean, who could stay
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  Speaker 1: angry at that face?
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  Speaker 2: No one, no one care, not even Steve men not
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  Speaker 2: even Steve Mensis was forgotten about it, obviously, and.
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  Speaker 3: Then he knew I reckon. He knew you're like. You
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  Speaker 3: were like, Steve, do you remember this face? And he
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  Speaker 3: was like ooh, and then his wife was like, that's
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  Speaker 3: that guy who you always said you fucking want to
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  Speaker 3: award it and.
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  Speaker 2: He's sitting next to you at the Manly Awards.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 1: But thankfully, look water over the bridge.
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  Speaker 2: We had a lot of fun with Steve's So thank you,
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  Speaker 2: Steve Man, and you are forgiven.
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  Speaker 3: One of the biggest rivalries in Manly has now been resolved.
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  Speaker 3: People can sleep at night knowing that Ashwicks no longer
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  Speaker 3: has any enemies where he's born.
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  Speaker 2: It was my only enemy. I think, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: there could be more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you are an enemy of Ashwicks, please write
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  Speaker 3: in and tell us what happened.
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  Speaker 2: To be Actually there is an enemy with someone I
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  Speaker 2: had a stout or someone on a golf course. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: but it.
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  Speaker 3: Was a good night and you went home at a
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  Speaker 3: very reasonable hour with steak in your belly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that was nice as well as a few beers.
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  Speaker 2: Only a few very well behoved And I could have
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  Speaker 2: I could have easily, but look I didn't. I went home.
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  Speaker 3: I was playing the role of April, where you were
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  Speaker 3: like one more drink, and I was like, do you
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  Speaker 3: think that's a wise idea?
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  Speaker 2: I did, God, April, I did have a set of keys.
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  Speaker 2: So get home, new house, still working out.
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  Speaker 1: The King's must be nice. It's a rental, so it
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  Speaker 1: just relates a bit rich.
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  Speaker 2: And I get home and the screen door is locked,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't have a key for the screen door. Great,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to wake everyone up.
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  Speaker 1: How do you go getting down that driveway?
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  Speaker 2: After a few beers, I slid a few times and
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: then I thought, am I gonna get the house? And
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  Speaker 2: the back door doesn't lock and it's but it's up
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  Speaker 2: on like a two story back And so there's me
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  Speaker 2: eleven thirty at nights, scowling the side of the.
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  Speaker 1: Brand new suit, brand new MJ Bays suit.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, I sneak in, I go have a shower, come
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  Speaker 2: out of the shower, and Macy's crying. Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: It's midnight at this point, and I'm like, got it
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  Speaker 2: back to sleep, okay? I go off to bed, and
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  Speaker 2: then of course she starts to cough, and she coughed
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  Speaker 2: for two hours before she went back to sleep, And then, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How do you get back to sleep? Just lay with her?
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I said, lay with her and let a cough into
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: my mouth nice pretty much because she doesn't understand. She's
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: like ah, And I could just feel the breath on
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: my face every time for two hours. And then ye
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: got three hours sleep and came here yesterday and fell
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: asleep on the couch and here we are and here
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: we are and I'm tired. So yeah, how are you?
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: How was the weekend? Actually? And I'm we're going to
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: let that one slide.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: The weekend was good things, mate, The weekend was good.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Was down in Aladullah, because it must be nice. We
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: have we have purchased a house down.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Going.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: We are currently two months in to a Renno. That
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: is just getting bigger and more complicated.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: How did the terminite situation go? What's the deal with that?
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Look, it's it's actually, it's all right. Termites have resolved themselves.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Well they've been killed. They're like they found us. We
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: love the South Coast. I will just got married down there,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: and we go down there for like if we go
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: away somewhere, no no disrespect to up North Northern Beaches,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Central Coast, lovely players up there. We normally go down south.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: We look south, you're on South side of Sydney pretty well,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: it makes more sense, like why would you go like
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: we would go north. The problem is just going north
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: when you already live north. If you want to go
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: further north, you've got to go south to go north
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: in Sydney. It's weird. It's a fucking nightmare.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: But we had a little sniff, as you do sometimes,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: you know, you just like go to real estate dot
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: com put in a different suburb and you're like, see
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: what's around. We saw this place, like fuck, that is epic,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: and we're going down anyway. So we thought we'll just
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: go to the open house because it just so happens
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: at the open home was the same time as we
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: were down there. This is months ago, and Laura was like,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: this place is fucking magic. Imagine like eventually we get
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to move down here to the coast with the kids,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: won't that be amazing? And I was like, Eh, the
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: place had been there for three years. Homeowner Lovely Vail.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: She's passed away, so the house was just like.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: She wasn't in the house too.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: It was no I was I was going to say,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: like when are we get to try and guess where
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: she died? She passed away in the nursing home rest
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: in peace. But the house is everything we peel back
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: is there's just more and more damage, like everything that
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: we're hoping to say.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Like a poorly washed forcekin everything. Sorry, but yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: And then that includes you know as well, we pulled
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: off from chip Rock and then they're fucking termites.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Like, oh my god.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So it's it's.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: It's been a lot bigger than we anticipated. And also
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: a couple of arguments here in the ash I can
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: imagine we The biggest argument we've had so far was
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: over a French cream white, which is an off white
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: for those wondering, versus a white wool white. You've worked
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: ash In in construction before. I feel like you've got
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: a great eye for details.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Should I get into character now?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Please?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, I say, Laura, that was a lovely spot of
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: shaving paint. Can I please see the colors that you
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: wish for me to have an opinion?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Not okay, this is this is a white wave white wave, Yep,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: this is tormentor Oh it's a huge difference.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: There's a massive difference in those two. Yeah, are you
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: fucking high?
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: No?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I wish you got to think that's very bright white
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: that's a dull white. It's a bit more of a
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: tan white. Wow, got the others? You want to run
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: by me? Give me, give me?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: You and Laura should be running this house.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I sat down with her and went through the tile stuff.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Did you really? Yeah?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: So fleeting with my wife.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Your own home. We both were wearing clothes, so it's
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: all good than the heavens.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: So yeah, currently kind of discussing all the details of reno,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: including the paint colors, which ash on top of everything else.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: When it's ten o'clock at night and you want to
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: go to bed, and you got to go through and
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: you got to pe out colors of things. I don't
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I don't care. My words were. My words were, I
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: don't care enough about these colors to have an argument
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: with you. And then that was responded with, so you
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: don't care about this house?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's one extreme to the other.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, but anything I pick you're
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: not going to like, so let's just go with what
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: you like. And then that's how the argument I'm for here.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: And it's like, if you're not interested in something that
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: there might be slightly interested in, you've insulted them and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: everything about it. So like, for example, if April's like
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: watching a TV show, I'm like, this TV show is garbage,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: and it's literal garbage. She'd be like, oh, what do
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: you just hate me? Do you?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: You didn't make the TV show? She takes offense like
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: she's the producing director or something.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: But Laura said, look, there's there's one little part of
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: the house that you can have whatever you want. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: don't care, like whatever you want to have in there.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: The basement.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: It was a little bar through the on sweet She's like,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: whatever tiles you want, go nuts. And I was like,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I was like, cool, i want like stripes, green and
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: white stripes.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking that once or she goes in there
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and it's a cinema room, just.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: A toilet and a big screen, like perfect.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: And so Laura's got great eye for design, you have
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: to say that though. She's very very talented and beautiful
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: and funny. And she was like, whatever you want, baby,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: you can eat that bathroom.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: It's your project. It's yours trap, bro okay. And so
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: then I was like, great, lock it in green and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: green and white stripe.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Let's go green and white stripe. That's lovely, thank you,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: thank you anyway. So I'm about to place the order
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: and Laura's like.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Are you are you sure you definitely want the green
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and white stripe And I was like, yeah, work, what
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: what what's not to love?
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: It's it's great, it's punchy, it's yeah, it's why it's
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Chris beachy. And she was like okay.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: But also, this wouldn't have been the first time that
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: she's heard about this idea. No, no, no, she's had exactly.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: It was like one of the first I locked in.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Don't don't stop me when I'm about to lock it in,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: stop me when I suggest it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: And so then Laura's like, okay, look, if you're happy
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: with it, we'll lock it in.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: And I was like great.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And then she went to work. This morning she called
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: me and I'm like, hey, where are you And she goes, well,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: At the tile shop. Oh god.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: And I was like okay, and she's like, I just
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: want to send you something. Green shripe are no longer
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: happening at She was like, and I did send you
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: something and tell me if you like it. And it
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: does look better, it does look much better. I have
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: to stay it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: It looks a lot better. He's like, it looks a
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: lot better. Yeah, that's what That's what she told me
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: to say.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I just want to say that Laura's decision making has
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: been second to none, and I can't wait to see
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: the finished product.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: She's just I love you, Laura. Blink twice, Matt blink twice. Yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: so we're getting the mate. We Actually I need your help.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I do need your help with something, okay right now? No, no, no,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: not right now, not the second because I know you
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: have to go back to your sick family.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I know it's a big ass because I didn't help
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you move your house.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Oh no, absolutely not no, absolutely. I just need help
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: with some of the gardening down there. Yeah. So are
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you offering me a weekend away like you me it's
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: your weekend? Yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: No, kids, hard labor, hard labor. All we need to
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: do is just rip out a heap of plants. It'll
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: be fun. Just an idea. I know what's a long
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: way to drive.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And I know that where will we say?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Well, books are where?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Nice? Would you say it would be romantic?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I mean I mean they had me, you had me, Okay, in.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: A few weeks time.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I just need to come down because you know I'm
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: not that manly Ash. You, however, you're so masculine, so strong,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: and you know you know your way around a set.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Of tuls, Thanks God.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: So that's that's why I need you there.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, I'll do it because if
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I don't do it, you'll end up with Falcon.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know, my good friend,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Falcon is a lovely young man.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: He would take a bullet for you.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: He would take a bullet for me. Not the best
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: in the garden knock mo hands on.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: No, he's more like throw your party sort of guy. Yeah, okay,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: we'll list do that. List, do that, Ash.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I know it's almost lunchtime, so I don't want to
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: make you even hungrier than what you are right now.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: But you know, when you're near a subway and your
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: nose is just a little bit tickled by the smell
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: of warm bread, I'm like a dog.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I can sniff my way to a store.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I could actually go for a subway, now, I bet
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: you could, big guy.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: You know who gets to take full advantage of the
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: subway treatment.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Ash?
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: You know who have a guess trades as tradies whom
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: must be nice, Ashes, someone who's just entered the trading
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: world for the first time recently with the renaults down South.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: There's an important date coming up that only US trades
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: would know about, Matthew.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: That is National Trade's Day this Friday, the twentieth September. However, Sir,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I do not believe you are a trade now.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: It's marked in the calendar as my second favorite day,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: only second to Christmas. And Subways very specially are celebrating
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: US trades by offering free delivery with Subway delivers on
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: the Subway up from Friday, September twenty until September twenty sixth.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Conditions apply. You keep referencing US Tradees, Matthew.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, US trades, Ash, We need to stick together anyway.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Subway's got this limited edition menu item, the Subdog, perfect
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: for Trade's Day lunch.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I always get the subdog Ash as a trade myself.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: That's what I enjoy most eating with my trading friends.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: It's like a Cymon hot dog had a baby.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: You get it, I get it. I Maybe there's no
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: better way to show some love to your favorite trade.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Just swap out the toolbox for a subdog or your
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: favorite sub make sure you check out the Subway app
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to get that free delivery.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Hit up the app, grab yourself a subdog, maybe even
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: a cheeky cookie, and celebrate Trade's Day with Subway. I
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: want to just quickly talk about something very quickly which
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: has come across my desk that I cannot go on
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: without just asking you, like, what your thoughts are on
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: this please. So friends of mine have a three year
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: old daughter, and you've got daughters. I've got a daughter
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and around that age.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: My daughters are also three, one of.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: The y and you know, you just swimming, you can
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: get your kids like Oscar you did rugby. And so
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: their daughter took up dancing.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I love that. I've thought about getting mole in the dance.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: And you know, and just she's three.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Just keep that in mind, just three, three years three, innocent.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: My friends of this child have received an email from
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: the from the dance school about this particular child. I
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: just want to know what your thoughts are on the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: email or read it out offering her a scholarship so
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to whom it may concern, which is the parents, of course,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I hope this will hang.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: On a second. Sorry, just before you continue.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: That was just me saying.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: It's only directed to that to the parents.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Very informal. Yeah, I hope this message finds you well.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I wanted to reach out to discuss Ziggy's behavior in
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: our Tiny Tots class. Tiny Tots, come on now. We
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: value presence in our program and are committed to ensuring
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: that every child has a positive and productive learning environment. However,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: we've noticed that she has been struggling to stay engaged
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: during lessons, which has led to some disruptions in class.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: While we understand that this age group can be challenging,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: it's important for the benefit of all students that everyone
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: is able to follow instructions and participate appropriately.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: She's fucking three, bro, Yes we continue, let's go on.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Sorry, but I'm with you next paragraph. Unfortunately, the current
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: situation is affecting the overall learning environment not only but
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: also for the other students in the class. We feel
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: that she may not be fully benefiting from the lessons
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: at this time. It might be helpful to consider taking
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: a short break from the classes until she is more
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: comfortable following the instructor of the lessons.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Let me know what you think.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I can credit your accouncer that they no there is
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: for when she is to return. Please feel free to
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: reach out if you'd like to discuss any further where
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: anything we can help to support. We're here to help
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: and want to ensure the best outcome for everyone involved.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: So that's like been written by a lawyer.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: This also nice touch. I hope the email finds you well.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: To her, it makes sense.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: It's a three year old getting booted out of a
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: dance class.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not learning like backflips and pirouettes, Like they're
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: probably just there going like that's what level of dance
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: are they learning?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: What is this Dallas cow Dallas cheerleaders or whatever it is.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: It's like it just didn't make the cut. Sweetheart, get out,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: get out? She's three, what do they do twelve? That
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: is Look, she's not twirling fast enough. Just losing.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: That's absurd, it's absurd, And like what three year old
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: has an attention span that's like longer than thirty seconds
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: like their kids, dude, the kids just put the music
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: on and let them run around and have fun.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so essentially they're not welcome back. Wow, can I ask?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I do have to ask, because you know there's some
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: kids can be very naughty, like you know, she is
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: she in there like wielding a crowbar, and she's.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: No. She is such a sweet little girl. She's the
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: sort of little girl who will come up to me
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and go, oh, cuddle, just give me a cuddle straight up.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm in sort of some sort of emotional tumol,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but she'll still come up and say,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: you know, she's a sweet.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: You're you're quite the tormental. So maybe she she like
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: knows her own kind.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: She's like, what, no that she so? So what do
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: they say back where it's still pending? But obviously you
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: just they're not. They're actually and this is the sad
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: part about it, they're too too embarrassed to go back.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you wouldn't go back. You couldn't.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: That's fucked.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: That's no good.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I know, like we were as as parents of young kids.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Our kids aren't going to be behaved all the time.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: They're gonna be doing silly. And it's hard enough to
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: even say to another parent that your kids accidentally hurt them. Look,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, like.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Or like, is she on a scholarship? Can we just
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: know so paying? They're paying paying, dude. There have been
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: so many times, like every second swimming lesson, my kid
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: is like screaming bloody merd because she doesn't want to
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: get in the water with a teacher I'm paying.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my response to that would be, suck it up
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: and do your job better. How about that? How about
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: you keep them engaged? How about that one? Or maybe
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: hire someone that can or maybe I'm moving to a
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: dance school that know what they're doing.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I think that's very ridiculous, and I'm sorry to the
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: parents out there that are currently dealing with the situation.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: If you or if you are dealing with a similar situation,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: is this I don't know. Look, this is the first
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: time I've encountered this. I'm still pretty new it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: If anyone was to get kicked out of a lesson,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I feel like it might be yourself.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Ash.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Did you ever get removed from classes?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Oh? Removed from classes on a daily basis?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: From what age?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Since the daughter very early on?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: When mom is your teacher said that you very early on?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: It was very early on.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I was very disruptive in class. But from what age?
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: But I think, like I think, look, this is where
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I'm going to throw an opinion on what this class
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: should have done. Go on. They should have said, hey,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: there's some problems, she's disruptive or like she's not engaged.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Instead of going we feel you should take a break,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: they're like, hey, is there anything that like we can help,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: or is maybe you should come sit in in the
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: classes a little bit more, offer something. Don't just be
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: like you're fucking out. Three year old, get the fuck
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: out of here, Like literally, that's what's happened.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Although we shouldn't pass judgment without having to sit through
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: a whole lesson with this said child.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Very true, but three year old, I think in general,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: three year old don't think that's fair. I love a
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: passionate I will get an update on the situation.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Please please, I actually hang one, I need to yell
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: right here.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: You're raising voice and it's not needed.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Two days ago I had to help them out and
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: babysit this child for a little while, in between one
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: finishing work and the other starting working.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: This guy because mother Theresa over here, Ladies and gentlemen,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: halo looking after his We not only his kids left
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: my sick family.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: That's April's like, ash.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Where's that?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Where's the neurofin in that bottle of water?
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And absolute delight with me. Both kids were so
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I don't see, I don't I don't buy it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Was this whole story just an opportunity for you to
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: talk about the fact that you're.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: No.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I think it's I agree with you.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Hey, Ash, it's time for parenting hack or that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, I think I have a.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Great parenting hack that you will love, that everyone will love.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Parents'll be the all around the world.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: We'll get on board with this painting hack laid on
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: me big?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Does anyone else eat dinner at four twenty five pm?
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Because your kids ask for a snack and if they
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: had a snack, they wouldn't eat dinner. So you just
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: have dinner. Yes, I do it, But then they don't
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: eat that and you do the old classic.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Well, you couldn't have been that hungry. Then I think,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: great hack.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: That's bang on, thank you, because also then you can
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: bring the whole night forward and they're in bed by
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: like five. Because I don't know the concept of time.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just my kids, but if
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: they look at a rice thin, a rice cracker, just
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: look at it, have a slither? Do they're not eating
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: anything for two days?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I know I know Macy hasn't eaten anything in days,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: and I'm over it and like.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: But she is happy and healthy.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just yeah, caveat. That might sound terrible anyway,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: she's locked in a cage, so should be fun. I've
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: got one for you, believe it or not. It's just
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: look it. It's pretty silly, this one. But I just
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: thought I s never no, never, okay, so just scroll he'scrolling.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I don't scroll. It's amazing. That's very good. When Oscar
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: was a baby, he used to love a butt tap,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: like when he was like one one and a half.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: When he was like, it's how you see the child?
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So to the fact where when we stopped
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: doing it, we were like, no, I'm not sitting in
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: here for twenty minutes, patn your butt. I'm getting carple
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: tunguel on my wars. Can you not? Bro just going
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: through Ash's phone.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: But for those wondering, it's it's it's one of those mulletfish,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: like the robotic mulletfish that like.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: In between.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Inappropriate content of future ideas.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Someone's roped with rope attached this fish to the child,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: a newborn child, and it's just like.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: But very good, very good, so Oscar. When we started
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: to withhold the butt pack because of my wrist started
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to hurt a lot. Because of that, he used to
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I used to catch him on the monitor going what
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: there is himself.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: To say? He's just like and theny crimes off to sleep.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Just give the man what he wants?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Is it time for.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Tell me loud?
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Tell me little line? Lauren says.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: This week the power went out at home, which meant
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: the kids couldn't watch TV. Once the power came back on,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I told them only normal TV works from now on,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: and they can only watch ABC Kids. None of the
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: other streaming services are working anymore. It's said a lot
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: of arguments. Yeah, okay, good.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Can I just comment on it quickly before you ad
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: you absolutely? I agree smart because when they have no
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: other options, they'll just suck it up and get on
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: with it. Love that go very good? But also like
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: how I rip my pants? No?
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I think that was me before give me your pants?
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Isn't it wild though that in this day and age,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: punishment is just watching ABC Kids, Like that's theirs to
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: be hard labor back in the day. Get back to sewing. Okay,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: what I think Lauren should have done. Is she should
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: have said. That is Santa Claus turning off the power
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: when you're misbehaving and he's always watching. So if you
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: don't want to get the TV turned off, behave better
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: and apologize the sounder right now.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: And I think what you're alluding to, Matthew, it is
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: the most wonderful time of the year where you can
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: lie through every one of your teeth to your children
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: about what Santa.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: You don't want any presents for Christmas in control of.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: And it's remarkable how many things Santa is in control of.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Parents need to shift right now and start like moving
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: all their lives to be Christmas factor now. Act yeah,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just just a word of warning.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Act now, and then after Christmas you can always say
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: he'll come back. He'll come back for it. You know what,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: you know what Santa gave you, he'll come.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Back for Christmas is fun on Christmas Day for kids,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: but we now know as parents that it's really just
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: six months of pure fucking anxiety for kids and.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: So much fun for you. Do you want anything for Christmas?
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: You want to be the one kid on Christmas Day
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: he gets nothing. Your call, your.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Call to me I'm just getting child with flashbacks. It is.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: It's great and it's so fun for us because honestly,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I'll use it.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I will use doubt that for anything. Questions.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, I have a really quick question for you, please,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: very quick one very recent. I'm talking this week over
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: fresh Oscar Overnight has become afraid of the family dog.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: And my question is because you have quite a big dog.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: It's not a full dog, but it's a big dog.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: What I mean by full dog is only three legs,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: so it's only three quarters of a dog, but it's big.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Have the girls ever they ever just got scared? Like
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: he is petrified, Like won't go near the dog. The
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: dog just know us up. It's confused, like.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Did the dog do something? No, just woke up one day.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Did he watch something?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: You can't explain it, like it wasn't like we.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Spoke about the other day at the football the dogs
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: police dog's attacking people, like Oscar hasn't some I watched
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: something showing dogs being violent. Maybe he's witness an attack
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: in public. I think he would tell me something. Have
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: you asked him why he's afraid?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Because I mean, he won't give me an answer won't
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: because it was after a night that he wasn't at home.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: He stayed at Papa's house, and he does Papa have
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: a dog? No, He was saying. The only things he
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: could mutter to me about it were, it's because she
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: hasn't seen me in a while.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, what's a bit strange. The kids, the
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: kids sometimes disliked the cat. The cat does this thing
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: where he doesn't cats suck, not Raspberry.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I love you. I think she's speak English.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: She will sit on the stools and she crouches below
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: and she swipes. She's a swiper. And sometimes the kids
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: and it's more just then being startled. They're not actually
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: getting like scratched and not bleeding. But I was attacked
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: by Raspberry, and then from that moment on for the
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: rest of the night that I don't wanted anything to
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: do with Raspberry. But my sister, okay, my sister who
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: also hates Raspberry, also hates Raspberry.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: She became petrified of dogs.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, just like just as an adult or a child,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I as a child, as she used to love dogs.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I wasn't there. This is going back now thirty odd years.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Who are old.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: But apparently when she was a young child. There was
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: a dog. Not sure if it was just excited and
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: jumping up to be like, hey, what's up.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: But the dog had.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Like broken free from the owner, had run up and
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: had jumped on my sister.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Again, was it a police dog.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Cannot be sure if it was like a and I
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: wouldn't say she didn't like it attack. She wasn't like bitten,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: but it was it was a scene.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: It was a scene. Yeah, yeah, of course.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: And from that moment on, I remember like walking to
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: school with my sister and if we saw any type
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: of dog regards of the breed. I'm not just talking
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: about like the scary dogs like a Golden Retriever, right,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: who's scared of a Golden Retriever?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: My sister she would be like, oh my god.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fear is a strange thing, isn't that.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe he was maybe like he had an interaction with
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: the dog. The dog's tiny. No, not with that dog
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: any other dog.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Need to get to the bottom of this, need to
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: get but also it's hard to be like, I'm like, bro,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: there's just been your dog your whole life.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: That's why I don't think it was that dog as
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: another dog.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Just saying, okay, not that I'm going to take anyone
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: has any suggestions of what it might be, It'll just
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: be the same thing.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: There's been a bunch of people right in and go now,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: so we must have happened with another dog. No shit,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I want more psychology than that? Do they?
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Instead of paying for professional help? Listeners? Please way more,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: way more experience. What do you got for me? I
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: shud have a question for you. This one is from
• 42:57
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• 43:01
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• 43:05
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• 43:06
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• 43:09
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• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Jesse says, asks even we know mum guild is a thing.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: But what about dad guilt? When do you feel at most?
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Very good question?
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Do you get guilt?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Ash?
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Are you capable of feeling guilt?
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Surprisingly enough?
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, I am apparently to me apparently know what Steve Menzie's.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: No, I did avoid you for a long time.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you get parent guilt?
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: When do you get it?
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I get it when I feel like I've reacted to
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: something I've just knee jerk reacted. So, for example, this
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: whole scared thing Oscar scared, I got. I got angry
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: about it because I was frustrated to not because I
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: didn't know why. But then after after the reaction, and
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: you know, I think time has gone by the react.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: My reaction was wrong and I felt guilty about that,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: and I did speak to Oscar, but I said, look, sorry,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: it's you shouldn't get in trouble for feeling fear.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, because as irrational as it may be.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like I needed to be more patient
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: in that situation and try and understand why instead of
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: just kneed. She's been your fucking dog for five years, bro,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: which is wrong. And I did feel guilty about that.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Had the chat with Oscar, we mended with mended, mended,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: and I have acknowledged that it's okay to be scared,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: it's okay to feel fear.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I want to say, that's a great approach to the situation.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Very mature of you.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I'm growing. I'm scared of that.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel it. I feel it, I reckon I
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: feel it now more than ever.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I think why.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: I think when so my kids five and three it's
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: a great age and it's a great time of parenting
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: because the kids can be a bit more autonomous. Yeah,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: they can kind of play with themselves a little bit more.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: They don't require Laura and myself to watching over them
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: every second, and especially right now, because you know, we're
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: trying to juggle work amongst this bloody house and we're
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: really really stretched and any spare time has been put
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: into other things that aren't the kids, and it's a
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: little bit of a case of we're in the routine
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: of picking the kids up from daycare and kind of
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: just trying to get to that finish line that's seven
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: o'clock bedtime, you know, get them home, get them fed,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: get them bars, put them into bed, not really having
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: quality time.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: And also you take you sort of take any inconvenience
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: in that to bring things forward. Right, So that's it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I'm starting the bath, yeah, you know what I mean.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: And it's like it's just to get you through. And
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: then once it's like, oh they're in bed, oh fine.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I dode as well.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: You know what we did the other night, which just
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: was a stupid thing to do.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: It's sweet, but stupid. Is then going through and looking
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: at photos of when they were younger. Yeah, and then
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: you just what I think fuels the guilt more than
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: anything is when you start to realize how much they've
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: grown up and how quickly time is going, and you're like,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not fucking loving every second of parenting.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I'm a shit parent.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: And you're like, ah, you've also got a like And
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: for any parent with young kid out there that feels guilt,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: whether it's on a small scale or a large scale,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I think you're allowed to give yourself an opportunity to
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: like feel that way so that you can go, all right, well,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: how do I change that behavior or like, it's also
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: okay to feel guilty. You can't. You shouldn't have to
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: be made to feel like you're doing a bad thing
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: for feeling guilty, because if you feel guilty, then you
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: realize that, Okay, well there's better ways that I could
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: do that, and then next time you could do it.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: That makes sense, it does in a way, But yeah,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I'm feeling it more now than ever before.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I'm saying, like they you sort of
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: go into that autopilot.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Because the quality time, the quality time with the three
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: and five year old is a lot more like I
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: find it a lot richer if you will then with
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: like a like a one year old, because you get
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: to interact more, you get to play games, you get
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: to like you know.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Even if you're playing the games incorrectly. Yeah, you know,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: like an next four mess just.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Like so, I just don't feel like I'm getting that
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: quality term, especially on the weekends as well, because weekends
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: we're just focus on other things. So yeah, dads get it,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: dads get it good all the time.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: But I think, like I said to, I think you're
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: allowed to feel guilty. You don't feel like it's a
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: bad thing because it can be turned into a good thing. Yeah,
• 47:44
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• 47:46
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