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Telecon with Mike from Slough: Health and the Sardine Saga · UK Column Radio

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  Hello Mike from Slough. What have you got for me?
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  I'm absolutely livid. I'm absolutely livid, Brian and
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  all the UK column listeners food, Yeah, absolutely.
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  We're absolutely getting our pants pulled down when it comes
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  to prices for no real reason. Couple of.
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  Things. Just let me come in you.
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  You have over the last couple of years you've really been paying
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  attention to health and food well.
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  Yeah. I mean, a few years ago I'd sort
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  of reconcocted my diet and cut out all anything with seed oils
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  in, in other words, processed foods.
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  And there's lots of things that you think are healthy that have
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  got seed oils, grapeseed oil, palm oils, all these types of
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  things, vegetable oils, they're all like anyone can go on
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  YouTube and I won't bore people with them, but anyone can go on
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  YouTube and, and, and, and the way these are made like
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  industrial type food productions, they're, they're,
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  they're all inflammatory to the body.
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  They're not good for you. So basically I I I re engineered
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  diet kept away from wherever possible.
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  Anything with seed oils in any processed foods which you know
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  anyone. Everyone knows that the more
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  processes the food goes through, the kind of worse it is for you.
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  But even the BBC has done programmes on this.
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  It's, you know, it's not really up to debate anymore.
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  So I'm basically trying to go back to basics of what my mum
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  used to cook me right when when we're all thin.
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  Yeah, and and you looked at. All of my old school photos and
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  our good old mums used to do the cooking back in the, you know,
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  the 60s and 70s. We're all stick thin because we
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  basically had real butter, real meat, little bit of veg, but
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  everything was meat and two veg. You know, it was like, oh it's
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  boring. But that's what we used to eat
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  and my mum used to go down to the butcher shop, you know, a
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  couple of times a week. We had stews weren't that very
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  well off, but meat was very, very affordable in those days.
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  I mean, it was just the norm and we're all a lot healthier for
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  it. We just dig out your old school
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  photos and you'll see there's the evidence.
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  Nobody was overweight. I mean, we weren't doing serious
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  amounts of exercise. We were just doing tall outs of
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  it. I mean, most of us used to skive
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  when we used to do the cross country, unlike hide.
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  I mean, so we were, we were, you know, 15 year old kids.
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  We were just normal foods. Yeah, So what?
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  What food have you been looking at recently?
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  Well, a couple of things now they've got these, what I've
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  noticed and I've read some reports, what I've noticed
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  recently, 2 reports going around I think tank and it was covered
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  by the Times Telegraph. All the people that these people
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  on these suppressants, these American drugs where you know,
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  they're all losing weight now because basically there's their
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  appetite is being suppressed and there's a stack of other side
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  effects that go with it. I might name the brands, but
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  everyone knows who the brands are.
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  And in fact, there was a similar type of brand that maybe a
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  couple of years ago that was pulled from the market in
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  America because they had so many suicides.
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  But moving it back to today. So these appetite suppressants
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  everyone's on now, they're losing tonnes of weight and you
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  know, we, we all know their muscles are wasted away as well.
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  But what's it? What it's also doing is because
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  they're eating smaller, being advised to eat better as well.
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  They're basically eating going back to nutrient dense foods,
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  which you know, meat, steaks, eggs, all these sorts of things.
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  But I'm eating now. Lots of other people aren't
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  where, you know, a bit better for it and the prices are going
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  to be yacked up there. But also, you know, basics like
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  sardine. Other people are going to laugh,
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  but I, you know, I like sardines.
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  They're a super food. Sardines in water or olive oil,
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  not the awful ones in all the sources.
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  They've got all the rapeseed oils and the seed oils.
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  And I bought quite a few things back in October, November from a
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  well known store at 65 P and I've just gone back in there and
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  they've gone up to a pound. Yeah, that's a massive increase.
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  Now the ones in the olive oil went up to a pound a while ago
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  and I can understand why because olive oil has gone up.
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  But I mean, this is just pure exploitation and people on low
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  incomes. And there's a lot of them.
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  And I know a lot of people and I've been advising a lot of
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  people to get, you know, eat more nutrients dense foods and
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  you can't get much more basic than sardines.
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  And I, I think a lot of these shops have cottoned onto it.
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  See, there's a lot of influences have been going on for a couple
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  of years now about low carb diets, super foods like eggs,
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  you know, if you can afford organic, not everyone can, but
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  they're better ones. Grass fed beef this that and the
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  other, which a few years ago was affordable people and now people
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  are being rinsed the prices all these healthy foods and it's
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  very, very difficult now you know, people with the cost of
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  living crisis and everything the foods are going up, up, up and
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  up and I'm I'm I'm just so fed up with it.
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  Speak Forest. Yeah, and of course, of course
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  British farmers are being hit left, right and centre so that
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  the amount of produce from British farms home grown is
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  dropping. Yeah.
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  Well, 6300 went closed right now.
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  There will be a few of those that are probably going to go
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  anyway. But 6300 over that plus the
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  awful suicides that took place over the stress.
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  And there's no no getting out of that one.
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  That decision to hammer the farmers was a result of these
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  people taking their lives. And you know, our thoughts go
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  out to all their families on that they're surrenders.
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  There are, there were obviously every year a few farms that go
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  under, but you do now. I mean farm farm.
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  You know some farmers can make more money just doing YouTube
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  channels and putting solar panels on the laptop.
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  Yes, try that. Pick up local papers and every
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  few weeks local groups are complaining about solar farms
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  on, on, on farmland that should be feeding us.
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  Yeah. So, I mean, I'm, I'm just fed up
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  with it because there's a lot of people on low income.
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  So looking to eat healthily now, Brian.
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  And, you know, and I know myself and lots of other people, we're
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  looking to eat healthier, get back to basics, you know, just
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  with eggs and, you know, a little bit of meat, decent fish.
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  And we're just being clobbered all the time, mate, all the
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  time. And nobody seems to care.
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  Well, for me it's, it's always been deliberately sorry for me,
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  it has always been a deliberate policy to destroy the health of,
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  of the nation by junk food. I think it's it's not just
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  corporate well corporate greed of course is a huge part of it,
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  but the fact it's tolerate to well indeed encourage by the
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  government says that their objective is to destroy the the
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  health of the nation. They know what they're doing if.
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  You if you think sugar does to your teeth and I've got I've got
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  feelings to to demonstrate it. Imagine what it does to your
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  liver and your organs over years.
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  If it if it rots your teeth away, it does to your liver and
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  your organs over years. If it if it rots your teeth
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  away. Yes, well, we imagine.
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  It what does to your organs. Yeah.
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  I mean, it's one of the one of the hazards of our generation
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  that has youngsters and in particular.
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  The government is, you know, it doesn't seem to be right and
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  this is the previous government as well.
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  They were, they were doing rewilding and shutting the farms
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  down as well. But the ministers don't want to
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  keep people out of hospital. And.
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  America's caught on because on their food pyramid now, it's
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  totally reversed and they've got like, meat and eggs and things
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  like that at the top of their food pyramid, yes.
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  Whereas we seem to be, you know, lagging behind.
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  But we've got the means over here to produce healthy food for
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  everyone and they just seem to be wanting to shut everything
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  down. Yeah.
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  And, and I think this is, I think this is deliberate.
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  I I'm sure it is deliberate. Yeah, it's definitely
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  deliberate. I mean, it's death by 1000 cuts,
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  yeah. So.
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  Death by 1000 cuts. So Mike, if we end on a positive
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  note, what what's your recommendation for people
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  listening in if they if they're not yet thinking about their
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  diet, what, what would you encourage them to do?
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  Well, go back to Avocados are still reasonably cheap.
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  That's a good one. And not only that, it fills you
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  up. The thing is that it's if you
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  eat healthy fats, you don't get so hungry.
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  So you're not you're not you're not really looking for that next
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  like fix in between meals. So try not to eat between meals.
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  One, if you can do a little bit of fasting good.
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  Best way to do it is obviously have it meals earlier at night
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  five, 6:00 and then when you wake up 7-8 or 678, you've
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  already done 12/13/14 hours fast already.
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  And you, you, you're burning, you know, you want to get into a
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  state where you're not burning sugar all the time.
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  You want to be burning a little bit of fat.
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  So back to what, you know, what our moms and dads used to eat,
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  you know, good old proper butter, not the fake seed oil
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  type looks like butter. You know, the good old fashioned
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  butter cook, you know, cooking with a little bit of that with
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  the proper olive oils, duck fat, you know those types of things.
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  You know, just basically look at what what you know, what we used
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  to eat as kids, a little bit more meat and less of the
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  carbohydrated sort of mush and the least ingredients the
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  better. Yeah, that's really good.
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  And of course there are some really excellent and well
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  informed videos about this. And so people should do their
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  own research first. But yes, what what you're
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  talking about, certainly the UK column team is into this now.
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  And I can say that that over over the last year, it's made
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  quite a difference to several of us.
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  So it's it's great. As as the evidence, anyone of
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  our age, the old coaches, Brian, you know, I know you're not that
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  old, you're only about 48. But people like myself who were
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  sort of 60, just look at I, I, I say to people, look, if you can
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  look at your old school photos or of your relatives going back
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  to like when you were young, 10s, back in the 70s and you
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  will find hardly anyone. It was generally overweight and
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  they, they weren't sort of fitness fanatics.
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  It's what we ate. We didn't have all these foods
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  that were microwave with all these extra additives in.
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  And that is the food that's killing us.
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  Yeah, well, I little example I can give the audience for my
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  amusement, I've been looking at the the American series Streets
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  of San Francisco. They're really fun to watch.
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  I think so because of the style, the dress, the technology around
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  them. But one of the things that you
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  see every time there's a big group of people on the streets
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  when they're filming, people are clustered round and they sort of
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  include them in the shots. What you say people are people
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  are thin. Oh, it's not, you know, the
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  majority. It is.
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  It's the vast majority of them. And some of them are really
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  thin. You look at them and you think,
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  you know, wow, that that person's really thing.
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  So yeah. And that was those, that series
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  was back in, I think 1970 or 1973, that sort of period.
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  So I know what you're talking about.
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  Yeah. But see, we've got in our mind,
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  minds that like when we get up in the morning, I I've seen so
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  many people having orange juice. That's probably got to be the
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  worst thing. You can have it.
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  It's just, you might as well just eat a cup of sugar.
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  It's just sugar. Yeah.
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  But we've been indoctrinated all these years that having a glass
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  of orange juice in the morning is healthy for you.
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  It isn't. I mean, if you people want to
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  eat, drink orange juice, then fair enough, but it's probably
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  one of the worst things you can have in the morning.
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  Yeah. I mean, we need to get back to
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  how we work. A simple life.
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  Yes. You know, you don't need to.
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  People think you've got to lose weight.
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  You're not going to necessarily lose weight by going on a A10
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  mile run every day. I mean, people who are getting
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  older like myself, we've got, you know, bad knees from sport
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  in the past. We can't do a A10.
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  You've got to start back to basics and then maybe do the
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  fitness and everything else. People think, oh, I can't lose
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  weight. I can't go on a A10 mile run or
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  a 10 mile walk or get on a you know, you don't need to join a
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  gym, right? Yeah, if you can, that's fine.
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  It's good for you, walking and all these things.
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  But you've got to get back to basis you, you will not be able
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  to run yourself thin. All these people who are thin
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  and do running, they, they, they take, they prepare their diets
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  as well. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I mean, you know, it's just getting back.
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  It's very, very simple. Think about what you used to
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  eat. Find articles about what people
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  used to eat in the 60s. You'll see the menus, right, you
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  know, on Instagram, places like that.
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  And you'll see, like, what people used to eat then was a
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  lot more healthier than what it is now.
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  And we're supposed to be progressive now, and we're
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  supposed to know more about things.
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  And there's been more research, yeah.
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  But we've kind of been veered away from it.
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  It's as if people don't want us to be healthy and live longer,
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  happier lives. Yeah, but what you're talking
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  about simple steps where people can make a difference to to
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  their bodies and therefore their lives.
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  So this is a. This is an easy.
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  Generally, if you eat, eat healthy and watch and you've got
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  to look at, you know, cheap meat like chicken livers, Chicken
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  livers is quite cheap. Now, not everyone's cup of tea,
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  but if you go onto the Internet and see the, the, the nutrients,
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  they're probably one of the most nutrient dense foods you can buy
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  Sauerkraut. Sauerkraut has got more vitamin
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  C in it and then any, anything else, but not the sauerkraut
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  that you can buy in a jar in Tesco's.
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  Do your own sauerkraut, but you know, the more organic stuff,
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  not that stuff in a jar that's been, you know, pasteurised, all
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  the goodness has been blown out of it.
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  You can make your own sauerkraut, you know, at home
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  quite cheaply and that that's got more vitamins.
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  It's better for the gut. It's all about you gut, you
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  know, you sort your gut out and everything else, you know, Yeah,
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  calls in line after that, Brian, but anyway.
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  Yeah, brilliant, Mike. That's excellent.
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  Thank you very much for that. OK, Brian.