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*Replay | Ep. 1: Cheaters Never Win, Winners Never Cheat · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, a production of iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? It's your girl, Tam Bam. I love
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  Speaker 2: y'all so much. Welcome back to a new episode of
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  Speaker 2: We Talk Back. Or another episode, I'll say that. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I know y'all are used to hearing me and AJ's
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  Speaker 2: voice on the mic, but today AJ couldn't be here.
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  Speaker 2: She had an emergency to attend to. But we didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to leave y'all hanging. So instead, I thought, what?
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  Speaker 2: better time than to go back down memory lane, a
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  Speaker 2: little trip down memory lane to our very first episode
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  Speaker 2: six years ago. Now, listen, I kind of cringe when
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  Speaker 2: I listen to the episode because, oh goodness, we've grown
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  Speaker 2: so much. We've changed so much. We've learned so much
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  Speaker 2: and we've talked so much shit since then. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: If I say anything that offends y'all or AJ, AJ
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  Speaker 2: don't give a fuck.
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  Speaker 1: But I do care.
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  Speaker 2: I do care. And just forgive us, okay? So just listen.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's such a blessing to look back where
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  Speaker 2: we started and to see how far we've come. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my God. But this episode was fun. We talked with
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  Speaker 2: some guys. We put that witness protection shit over their voice.
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  Speaker 2: And they were kind of candid about cheating. So y'all
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  Speaker 2: listen to this episode.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what?
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  Speaker 2: Let me thank y'all. If y'all been with us since
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  Speaker 2: the beginning, man, I love y'all so much and I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you. And if you're just now tuning in for
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  Speaker 2: the first time or you just started tuning in, here's
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  Speaker 2: how it all started, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically Black women with an opinion. We
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  Speaker 2: Talk Back.
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  Speaker 1: Hey! What up, girl? Hey, girl!
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  Speaker 2: This is Tam Bam.
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  Speaker 1: And this is AJ.
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  Speaker 2: And we talk back.
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  Speaker 1: On the Black Effect Podcast Network.
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  Speaker 2: It's our very first episode, and I'm so excited. Like,
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  Speaker 2: how you feel, AJ?
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  Speaker 1: Girl, I feel fucking great on this Casamigos. So I'm AJ.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm originally from Chucktown, Charleston, South Carolina. Amp.
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  Speaker 2: Amp. Box you a knife. That's my Charleston imitation.
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  Speaker 1: Boy, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Boy. Hey, box you a knife, boy.
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  Speaker 1: I am a serial entrepreneur. I dibble and dab in
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of this and a little bit of that.
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  Speaker 3: Scammer.
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  Speaker 4: Shut up.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever, bitch. I am into white collar crimes. I do like.
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  Speaker 2: Mortgage fraud listen she's just playing law enforcement if you're
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  Speaker 2: listening just keep talking.
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  Speaker 1: But actually i do own and operate a commercial furniture
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  Speaker 1: installation company and i do have a food truck coming
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  Speaker 1: in spring to charlotte north carolina trap veggie so look
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  Speaker 1: out for that and i'm a struggle meal connoisseur and
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  Speaker 1: i'm just happy to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Man these meals be good as fuck.
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  Speaker 1: I am excited to be doing this podcast with one
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  Speaker 1: of my very, very good friends. I wouldn't want to
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  Speaker 1: be doing this shit with anybody else. So I just
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  Speaker 1: want to tell you a little bit about myself.
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  Speaker 2: You want to fuck me?
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  Speaker 1: Girl, bye. I do not like oysters. I mean, on humans.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I was about to say.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like nothing slimy.
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  Speaker 2: What you trying to say about my vagina?
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  Speaker 1: Bitch, I don't like nothing slimy. Okay, that's how I
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  Speaker 1: know I can never be a lesbian. To this fucking slimy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the way you was shucking them oysters at your house,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe that.
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  Speaker 1: Look, but I stopped eating them when I saw a
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  Speaker 1: fucking worm in one.
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  Speaker 2: Those same ones we were eating that day?
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Damn.
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  Speaker 1: Eating them raw? You get worms when you eat it raw.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, everybody, it's me, Tam Bam, and I'm that bitch
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  Speaker 2: that you don't want to miss every Thursday, okay? I'm
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  Speaker 2: a hairstylist by day, and I'm a fucking superhero at night.
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  Speaker 2: I wear a smock and a cape, bitch. I'm originally
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  Speaker 2: from the metro, which is Columbia, South Carolina. Stand up,
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina. I love y'all so much. I live in Charlotte,
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina now, where I have my hair salon. It's
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  Speaker 2: Tamela Bowen Vanity Studio, so check it out, y'all. You
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  Speaker 2: got to pay for the hair, but the entertainment is free.
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  Speaker 2: And honestly, I'm just so grateful because not everybody has
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity or the confidence to just be their authentic,
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  Speaker 2: true self. Because the world around you will stifle you
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  Speaker 2: and make you afraid to be yourself. But let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you who ain't. Tam Bam and AJ.
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  Speaker 5: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: And so we gonna say the shit you probably thinking.
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  Speaker 1: But can't say. So the main complaint black men have
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  Speaker 1: with black women is that we just don't shut the
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  Speaker 1: fuck up.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: So while you doing your dirt, we just talking all shit.
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  Speaker 1: While some ethnicities probably be a little bit more, like,
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  Speaker 1: not submissive, but what's the word I'm looking for?
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  Speaker 6: White?
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  Speaker 1: Bitch, what? Oh, my bad. Like, what's the word?
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  Speaker 5: Passive. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Passive. So we don't shut up. Thus, we talk back.
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  Speaker 2: Overall, the premise for this show is to create a
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  Speaker 2: safe space where Black women and women of color can
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  Speaker 2: come together and talk shit. And be empowered and feel
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  Speaker 2: loved and have joy. That's all this is.
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  Speaker 1: So we got a lot of great segments for the show.
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  Speaker 1: One of them we want to introduce right now is
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  Speaker 1: our random sex facts. So apparently, humans are just a
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  Speaker 1: sophisticated animal. And the only thing that separates us from animals, essentially,
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  Speaker 1: are laws and religion. So I'm a little slew-footed. So apparently,
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  Speaker 1: I'm related to penguins. Because the random sex fact today,
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  Speaker 1: it says that female penguins engage in a form of prostitution.
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 1: Not to say I'm a prostitute, but you got to
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  Speaker 1: have motherfucking resources, sir. So it says, researchers have repeatedly
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  Speaker 1: observed female penguins exchanging sexual favors with male pigeons. I'm sorry, penguins.
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  Speaker 1: That aren't their mates in exchange for pebbles they will
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  Speaker 1: use to build nests for their babies. So essentially the
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  Speaker 1: pebbles are equivalent or would be the same as money.
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  Speaker 5: Money.
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  Speaker 1: Penguins need stones to build their nests, which is where
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  Speaker 1: females lay eggs. And if a penguin couple finds themselves
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  Speaker 1: lacking in stones, the female takes it upon herself to
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  Speaker 1: provide for her children. which we would do because they
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  Speaker 1: said mamas come with a loaf of bread. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: when her mate isn't paying attention, she'll sneak off and
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  Speaker 1: have sex with males that have a surplus of stones.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Penguins will trade sex for stones they need
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  Speaker 1: to build a nest.
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  Speaker 2: That penguin was like, I got a pocket full of stones.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, so shit. Basically, I'm with that. You got
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  Speaker 1: to take care of your kids. You know, when men
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  Speaker 1: pay child support, they're always concerned about what money the
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  Speaker 1: woman is using to pay for what. You can't differentiate
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  Speaker 1: what money is what money. And if I need to
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  Speaker 1: get money from Joe Smoe and I need that child
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  Speaker 1: support check to support these kids, whose fucking business is that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand. I agree.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm here for the penguins. Do what you need
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  Speaker 2: to do, sis.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a duck.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: What sound does a penguin make? I don't know. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: they'd be moaning all day. Because they're going with the
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  Speaker 1: penguins who got the most sound sounding.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into anything else, let's pay some bills
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  Speaker 2: real quick.
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  Speaker 1: So today, we got a real good episode lined up.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's so much fun. You're going to hear from
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  Speaker 2: some gentlemen today that are sharing with us why they
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  Speaker 2: cheat or have cheated. So maybe the one that's cheating
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  Speaker 2: on you is one of these next.
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  Speaker 1: You know, because my philosophy is women need a reason.
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  Speaker 1: Men literally only need a time and a place.
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  Speaker 2: An opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So here's the kicker. We put that witness protection shit
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  Speaker 2: over their voice and it got them to be a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more honest than someone that you could pinpoint
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  Speaker 2: who the fuck they are.
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  Speaker 1: So our first guest is your certified hood nigga.
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  Speaker 2: Quintessential hood nigga for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Listen in.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us today.
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  Speaker 3: How are you? I appreciate y'all having me. I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 3: Just getting up, you know, starting my day.
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  Speaker 1: What that breath smell like though?
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  Speaker 3: She said, nah, I don't brush my teeth or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I got to make sure I keep my diamonds wise.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so wait, you have diamonds in your mouth?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got flawless diamonds, 10 and 10.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's like top and bottom diamonds?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you can see me on your local,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I ain't even going to put all that
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  Speaker 3: out there. I ain't going to show you. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm out there with it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I see you, Mr. Marcellus Brown. You haven't seen me yet.
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  Speaker 1: Facts.
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  Speaker 2: Facts. For sure.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So tell us a little bit about yourself.
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  Speaker 3: I'm from Charlotte, North Carolina. Born and raised, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the east side. Currently at this time, I do a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of everything. I'm going to come down to
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  Speaker 3: a freelancer. I'm an entrepreneur, businessman, manager of the music industry.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a couple of artists out there who I
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  Speaker 3: work with. I ain't going to put their names out
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  Speaker 3: there because they're going to figure it out too easy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a hot tamale, man. I can definitely shout somebody
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  Speaker 3: out there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, hot tamale.
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  Speaker 3: Later on after this call, maybe we can talk about
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  Speaker 3: some other things.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
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  Speaker 3: I'll show you some shit.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, shit, Mr. Brown. All right, so the conversation at
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  Speaker 2: hand is, you know why you keep stepping out in
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  Speaker 2: a relationship like why you can't keep your dick to
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  Speaker 2: yourself so are you currently in a relationship.
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  Speaker 3: Um i like i like i like to think so
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: You like to think so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah i mean i think i think i think if
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  Speaker 3: she thinks that thing you know We can say that, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait. So if the woman thinks that y'all
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  Speaker 1: in a relationship, y'all in a relationship.
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  Speaker 3: It's like this, man. I got to please my woman,
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  Speaker 3: you know, so she feel like that's what's going to
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  Speaker 3: take for her to be happy. I'm going to make
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  Speaker 3: her happy.
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  Speaker 1: Even if you're not really in a relationship, you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Think that you're in a relationship. I take care of
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  Speaker 3: my women. So, you know, I'm in a relationship, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm in situations at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, so you have one main relationship and then you
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  Speaker 1: have little outside little things.
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  Speaker 3: For sure. I think that's the way it is right now.
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  Speaker 1: So do the outside women know about your main?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure. They got to know.
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  Speaker 1: But how much do they know? Do you pillow talk
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  Speaker 1: with these women?
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  Speaker 3: No, they just need to know not to call me
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  Speaker 3: unless I call them. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: And they okay with that?
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  Speaker 3: The biggest thing, yeah, yeah, because I take care of
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  Speaker 3: them as well. Pretty sure they got their own things
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  Speaker 3: going on. I don't trip on them too much.
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  Speaker 6: I keep it clear.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute now. So, hold on. Let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you this.
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  Speaker 5: Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Brown, how old are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm 29.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And the women, how old are they?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: How old are these women?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, they range.
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  Speaker 3: You know, my old lady, you know, that's what I
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  Speaker 3: like to call my main girl, my old lady. The
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  Speaker 3: reason why I call her my old lady is because
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  Speaker 3: I spend the most time with her. She stayed down
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  Speaker 3: with me. That's my old lady. But she, like, 31,
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  Speaker 3: got me a little 24-year-old. She keep me, you know,
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  Speaker 3: up to date on the fashion and shit. You know,
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  Speaker 3: everybody play their own role.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting. And you say they know about each other? Like,
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  Speaker 2: they saw each other, they would be like, right, girl?
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  Speaker 2: Hold on, you mean?
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  Speaker 3: No, my old lady don't need to talk about none
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  Speaker 3: of that shit. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Basically.
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  Speaker 3: What I got going on with her is exclusive. You know,
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  Speaker 3: eventually one day that's going to be the mother of
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  Speaker 3: my kids. And, you know, she knows what's going on,
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  Speaker 3: but we don't talk about it. You know what I'm saying? Like,
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  Speaker 3: it ain't nothing to be disgusted.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So she gives you zero fuss about your outside activities?
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  Speaker 3: She do, but it's like she'll talk, but at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, I know how to handle her. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying? I know how to get her back together.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes she get a little straight. Got to bring her
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  Speaker 3: back to the stable, man.
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  Speaker 1: How do you do that? A makeup bag or something?
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  Speaker 2: A dick and some money?
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  Speaker 3: Nah, I mean, she got the dick and what got her, but,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I came up since then, so she seen
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  Speaker 3: what kind of lifestyle she living right now, and shit.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't saying another nigga can't give it to her,
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  Speaker 3: but they can't give it to her.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So, do you have unprotected sex with a 24-year-old?
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  Speaker 5: Nah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you always.
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  Speaker 3: Struggle with that. She suck my dick and shit, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, I ain't winning no games. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: a nigga gay if you wear a condom to get
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  Speaker 3: your dick sucked.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, fact.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he gay, but maybe he was gay.
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  Speaker 2: No, he can't get sucked with a condom on.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just think about it. You ever blew a
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  Speaker 3: bubble with rubber? She fuck around and choke herself.
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  Speaker 5: And die.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't trying to have that shit on my conscience.
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  Speaker 2: Alright, okay, I respect that. Do you ever feel any
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  Speaker 2: guilt about, you know, going outside of the relationship with
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  Speaker 2: your main girl?
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all, no.
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  Speaker 2: No guilt?
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  Speaker 3: No, I can't, because, I mean, if I feel guilt, then,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I shouldn't be doing it,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't feel like that. I mean, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like my girl, she there for what she there for,
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  Speaker 3: and which is to maintain the uphold household, but A
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  Speaker 3: lot of times, you're going to get what you get
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  Speaker 3: in your old lady that you're going to get out
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  Speaker 3: here in the streets. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: Like what?
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot of things. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Every man got his own, you know, what he like
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  Speaker 3: and what he don't. Like, me personally, my old lady, like,
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  Speaker 3: she went to school. You know what I'm saying? She
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  Speaker 3: a travel nurse, and she getting on her bag. She
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  Speaker 3: trying to go back to school, get her master's, and
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  Speaker 3: better herself. But at the same time, she born.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so she's not conservative. So you have the fun girl,
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  Speaker 1: the 24-year-old.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the fun girl. I ain't even going to say
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  Speaker 2: my girl not fun.
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  Speaker 3: We have fun. We laugh. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: We go on little picnics and dates and shit. That
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  Speaker 3: shit cool. But, you know, my 24-year-old, she might pop
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  Speaker 3: up on me and tell me about the new jeans
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  Speaker 3: that's coming out that she's not fun with. My girl
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  Speaker 3: don't know shit about none of that shit. She really
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  Speaker 3: try to stop me when I'm too old to be
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  Speaker 3: worrying about shit like that. And I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 3: only as old as I feel. And I feel like
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  Speaker 3: that's the type of shit that I like. But at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, I wouldn't want to let her go
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  Speaker 3: because of that little simple stuff. But she don't just
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  Speaker 3: have all the qualities. I want no one.
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  Speaker 2: Do you ever, like, talk with the side bitch about
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  Speaker 2: your relationship?
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  Speaker 3: No, she don't need to know.
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  Speaker 5: That's disrespectful.
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  Speaker 3: I don't do that.
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  Speaker 4: That's disrespectful.
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  Speaker 3: She don't need to know shit. She don't know her name.
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  Speaker 2: She don't know where I stay at.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She know her name.
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  Speaker 1: She know her Instagram page.
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  Speaker 3: My girl don't have Instagram. She don't do none of that.
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  Speaker 3: no Instagram, no social media. She's focused. She's not going.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: She's not trying to get attention.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: She don't do no social media?
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: What about Facebook? She got Facebook, but the only people
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: she follows are her parents. You know what I'm saying?
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: She got like a hundred followers.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: What's the reward for being a recluse like that?
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: She don't want for nothing. She don't need for nothing.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Do you think she would trade the things and stuff
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: like that for her man to be 100% faithful to her?
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Fully committed to her alone?
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: She'd be stupid as hell. It's like this. It's like this.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: You can fuck with a nigga that got time or
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: you can fuck with a nigga that got some money.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got time to fuck with somebody else.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: You got time and money.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Nah, my girl, she a travel nurse. She out of
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: town right now. I'm at my shop. I'm at the
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: 24-year-old house right now.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: She actually just went to go do her little part-time.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: At the mall and shit. I want her to keep
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: me watching goddamn Keanu and shit.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: So let me ask you this.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: If you were to get the 24-year-old pregnant by accident,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: what would that look like for you?
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I said I would disguise.
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: My voice, right?
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: You're totally protected.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: She got to go.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: She got to go?
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, what?
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Where she got to go?
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: She got to go.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Like die? Go? Or are you just getting rid of her?
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Tim, that's your name, right?
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm scared. My heart's starting to beat fast.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I respectfully, respectfully, that's your name, right?
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Some things ain't got to be said. She got
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: to go.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: You're not even going to give her an opportunity to say, hey,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I'll get rid of it?
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: She already know that. But if she even come talking
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: about anything else, she got to go. Because this shit
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: don't come before what I got going on at home.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: You know, this shit fun. I'm going to take care
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: of it. Make sure, you know, everything taken care of.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: She good.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Have you ever had therapy?
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Right. I really think I could be a therapist.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. Do you see yourself ever committing? Yeah, like
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: how long will this go on? Or is this just
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: like a lifetime thing for you? Could you be in
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: like a polyamorous relationship where it's kind of like fully
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: open with both parties? That way there's no deceit involved?
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: She better not ever step out on me. When you're
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: dealing with a complex type man like myself, some things
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: that my mind can handle, you might can't process. I
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: don't need you to get confused. I need you to focus.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: You almost sound like you speak like a pimp almost.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: You don't have to focus on nothing, baby. Follow me.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Then bring me the money back.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: It's not more of a pimp. I would say more
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: of a guidance counselor. I want to get to a
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: common goal so we both can be successful. All right.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Mr.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Brown.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: You have a good day. Did he just blow a kiss?
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Bye, nigga.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: That was a very interesting chain of events.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's, like, in my DMs right now, like, saying
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: all kinds of crazy stuff.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Now, look, these are random people from social media.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: It's not happening.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting involved in no shit like that. Like,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: he wanted a little polyamorous relationship.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: That's what he needs. He just needs... Like, I just
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: feel like if you're someone who wants a bunch of women...
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just be honest and y'all find women
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: that are down with it? Like, why don't we start
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: with these things? Because I believe that the deceit is a.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Part of the whole shit. You know what I'm saying?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I think it makes it fun for them.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Sneaky Link is like on an all-time high right now.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Sneaky Link?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It's like if Sneaky Link was a stock
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: right now, bitch.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Hello, Sneaky Link.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not sneaking to do shit. For 2021, I decided
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to practice safe sex, right? And I'm
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: not talking about a condom because, I mean, I am
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: going to do that too. But safe is an acronym.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And it stands for, the S is for it's not secret.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: No deceit is involved. Nobody's sneaking around. The A is
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: for abusive. It's not abusive sex. F is it doesn't
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: alter feelings. So like you're fucking to make me feel
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: better over something I'm sad about or something like that.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: And then the E is for it's not empty.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: So how do you have just sex and it not
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: be empty?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I don't just have sex. That's the thing. I'm not
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: going to partake in sex that doesn't have.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: You want meaningful sex for 2021.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: It needs to be a reinforcement of feelings that exist
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: with someone. That's it. So sorry, guys.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: No frivolous fucking this year no vacation pussy none of
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that no birthday pussy no it's over no vacation babe pussy.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: No damn So I'm just going to get a very
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: high pedigree dog. And that brings me to our next person.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: So you'll understand what that means very soon. Our next
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: person is.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Our corporate man.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I'm struggling. That's a shame that I'm struggling.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: She want to say corporate niggas so bad.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I just, I mean, all right. Corporate man.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: But before we get to our next guest, we have
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a few words from our sponsors. This is going to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: be your more high value grown man. All right. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: we are going to hear how he feels about High value?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: He's more high value?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: The high value to me makes it... To me, based
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: on the conversation, he's more responsible than our last caller.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: If I was like 25, this nigga would have me, okay?
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: But at this stage of my life, no. So, all right.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I want y'all to listen to our corporate man and see...
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: And see what you think in comparison to our street nigga. See,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I can say street nigga, but I can't say corporate nigga.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Like, high value.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: All right, so y'all listen in. Hi, this is AJ
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: and Tambam from We Talk Back. How are you doing?
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: Great, how are you?
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Good, good.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Thank you for participating today in our conversation about keeping
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: your dick to yourself. I want to... you don't keep
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: all right we'll get into that just tell us just
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: a little bit about yourself nathan who are you like
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: who are you what do you do where are.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: You from i'm a four-year-old guy uh black well-to-do guy
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: in the middle of atlanta.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Georgia okay And when you say well-to-do, what kind of
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: work do you do? Are you corporate?
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Well, I've been an entrepreneur, meaning I sell for companies
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: for most of my career, which allows me to create
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: a lot of other revenue streams, which is kind of
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: what I do. So I'm both, but I do pretty
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: well for myself.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool, cool. So let me ask you this. Are
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you currently cheating on someone right now?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Are you currently in a relationship?
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: No, no.
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: So I am single now. And when I am single,
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: I am a whole type of hoe. And I'm okay
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: with that. But when I'm in a relationship, in general,
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: I don't cheat. Toward the end of my marriage, it became...
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: The edges became a little foggy. But in general, when
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: I'm in a relationship, I don't cheat because I just don't.
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: My ego won't allow me to get caught cheating.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: And so it's rare that I'm going to allow myself
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: to get caught up in something that I would have
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: to admit to or something like that.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: That's a different way of seeing you. Yeah, I like that.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: A lot of times people will cheat because of ego.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Right. You don't cheat because of your ego because you
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: don't like to be wrong.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Exactly. I mean, imagine what you're going to do. Someone
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: dead ass catches you doing something. What are you going
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: to do? Just sit around and... You look like an idiot.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: No, you're going to flip it on them and make them.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: That's how you go use it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: I think that's a larger waste of effort. But I'm
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: not saying that I haven't done it before. And I'm
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: not saying that when I did it, I felt bad
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: about it. Because I felt I was justified in some
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: of my behavior. But, yeah, in general, I'm not a cheater.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: In general.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. You said something earlier.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: You said you were a whole hoe versus a half
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a hoe. What does a whole hoe look like?
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: When I'm single, I don't have any allegiance to anybody
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: that I don't have a relationship with. And I don't
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: enter into a relationship without a strict conversation and that understanding.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: So I'm okay with, you know, whatever. And I do
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: whatever I want.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And you're using condoms a lot when you're single. Single, right?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Or no? Do you have anybody that you don't use
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: a condom with?
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: It'd be accidental, I'll tell you that. But I certainly
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: have had drunk nights where, damn it, you know, what
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: the fuck did I do? But, you know, I went
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: and made sure that from a pregnancy standpoint, I've handled
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: my side of that equation.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Pull out.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: No, pull out. There's so many. Half of us are
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: born on pull out, right? So I went and got
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: a vasectomy because I don't want any more kids. How
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: many children do you have? More than three. Less than six.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Four to five. Four to five kids.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So I'm good on kids. And I don't wish
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: to be a 50-year-old running behind a 10-year-old somewhere. And
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: so I'm good. And so because of that, I kind
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: of take my choices of who gets my last name
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: very seriously. And I'm good on.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: That right now.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: So I heard you say you were married once before.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Do you want to be married again?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would marry again. You would marry again. I
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: think that marriage is a good thing. Now, understand that
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: getting married at 40 is a different calculation than getting
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: married when I did earlier in my early 20s because
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: we were married before. You're married for a life. We're
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: building kids together. We're building children together, a family, a
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: tribe together. And now, largely, we're going to— let's go
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: on vacation and fuck all the time. And this is
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: just a different calculus than I did when I was
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: in my early 20s. Right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: So, basically you're saying you want someone to fucking travel
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: with as a wife and that's about.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: But so, yeah, I'll have fun with a lot of these,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: you know, young women. But in general, the women that
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: I date are going to be more age appropriate. They're
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: going to be, you know, mature enough to handle my life,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: meaning that, you know, I have a complex life, a
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: lot of different people that make me money. And so
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: she needs to be able to be with me while
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: we're doing that. And, you know, and that's kind of,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: you know, that's, that's what, that's what, that's what I
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: have to man now. But, you know, that's, that's not,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: I'm not, I'm not a sugar daddy.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: So I'm not.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: We like sugar daddies over here.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I'm sure you think you do. But that's just not
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: what we're doing over here.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Are you exclusive to black women?
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: They're in the daylight.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: What the fuck?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Wait, what?
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: No, yeah, so I mean, absolutely, I mean, absolutely very
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: much publicly, I only date black women. I try to
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: be very loyal to black women. I really believe that
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: that's the right... It's very hard sometimes because I've been...
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: very disappointed with a lot of the interactions that I
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: have with black women. I'm not against white women. I just,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: in general, don't like their vaginas. And I don't want
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: to have sex with them. And I, you know, they're just,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: you know, they're okay. But I just, I think that
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be you know waking up to when
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: i'm 60 um probably not so she doesn't quite understand
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: the struggle she doesn't understand what we go through she
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: doesn't quite get it and so while it can be
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: a lot of fun it's just i i'm i it's
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: a culture difference and and you know that's going to
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: just kind of limit me from from reaching what i.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Want to do so um when you said because you
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: said you have cheated, but generally you are exclusive. When
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you made that decision to cheat, what was the thought
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: process that allowed you to give yourself permission to do that?
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: It was maker's market.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, liquor.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: By the time that I started, like, honestly cheating, I
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: had already moved out of my home. I was sleeping
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: in a hotel room because I was already separated from
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: my ex-wife. And I was like, on month two, of
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: me living in a hotel and basically a girl from
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: work wanted to come over and have drinks after work
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: and just hang out and we ended up drinking too much.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: And we're there so cheating wasn't the reason you got
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: divorced it wasn't because of infidelity.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: No, no. There's nobody that I went to when I
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: left my home.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: But did you cheat in your marriage? Did you cheat
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: on your wife?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Before you separated.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: No.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: There's never been a day where I'm going home to
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: my happy wife and we're in a relationship and I'm cheating.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: I just left another woman. That never happened. Certainly when
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: I was in a hotel room, that kind of started
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: a whole different path. It's like, yeah, well, I'm done
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: with this relationship.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Living in a hotel gave you the opportunity, basically.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: I was sitting there in the hotel room jacking off
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: on myself for a month. And it wasn't until that,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: you know, somebody else was involved. And then after that,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: it became it became more of a regular occurrence. So
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: I was like, you know, fuck it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. Prior to you moving
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: out of the house, when was the last time you
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: fucked your wife before you went to that hotel? Because
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: obviously y'all were on the out.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Maybe it was some... It's like we don't like each
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: other anymore.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: It starts for us mentally. So if I'm unhappy, my
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: pussy is just not going to work. Damn. That makes
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: me sad. No, I'm just imagining, just thinking about being
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: in a marriage and feeling that way.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it happens. It happens.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: How long were you married?
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: Almost 10 years.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, wow. So a long marriage. Well, I mean considerably
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: because you're only 40. So that was a good portion
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: of your adult life. So let me ask you this.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like, because I heard you say you left,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you said back home and now you're staying in Atlanta.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like dating in Atlanta is a different ballgame?
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: So I think Atlanta becomes a bad cocktail of ambition, misinformation,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: and toxic feminism. And so we put all those things together.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: That is dating in Atlanta. And it's a lot of
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: very ambitious key. here, you don't have to be in
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: a relationship. And frankly, most of us are, you know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: we wouldn't understand it, but we're all kind of poly here.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: And it's really a thing that we got to kind
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: of step back and look at.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: So when you say toxic feminism, explain what that is
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: for me.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: So....
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: What does it mean to you? Because to me, it's
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: like too many alpha females in Atlanta, too many women
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that may have their own. So it's like, I don't
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: need a man type attitudes.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you want to encapsulate it. The whole, I don't
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: need no man type of statement. That is a statement
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: of toxic feminism, in my opinion, because you're saying, wow,
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: look at my last paycheck. That means I don't need
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: a man anymore because you've simplified the contribution.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you, those bitches cry at night. Okay.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: They do.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They cry.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I'm those bitches.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: And I know they do. And I'm like, because I
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: have friends. I have a lot of, like, female friends
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: that I, look, and we're just female friends. And I
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: know that they have this struggle, right? And I'm like, dude,
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: you've been lied to. Like, you've got to change. You
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: can't just think of men as a resource pool for you.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: These are whole human beings that you're interested in only
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: one facet of their life.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: And so it's just.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: The utility of men that wants to be exported from them.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: You see a lot of that here in the city, right?
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: You see that in the women in this age range
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: where they should be. The Beckys of the world are
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: figuring out, how do I get married? And a lot
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: of the black women are like, how do I get rich?
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: And so those are two different objectives.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And so you just I don't know how, because all
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: women are attracted to resources.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about the Beckys are not trying to figure
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: out how they're going to do. I'm not saying that
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: women should not be doing whatever they want to do.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you're not
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: focused on partnering at certain points in your life, women
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: will run out of, it'll be more complicated for you later.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: And I'm saying that there's a lot of that happening
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: with women right now in the city. And I'm from
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: out of town. I've been here four years now. And
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: I can just see it's a different thing because, you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: they have their money and their businesses and stuff like that,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: but they don't have a relationship. And that makes me sad.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: And it's not going to be good for our people.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: And that is what I'm talking about. And that's what
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: I'm about is how do I do better our people?
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: And I don't think that's good when women have chosen
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: to not see men for partners, but just resources that
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: they can use occasionally.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: So when I lived in Atlanta, because I lived in
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Atlanta for some time in my late 20s, and it
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: was the loneliest time in my life. Because I realized
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: there are just a couple different types of men in Atlanta.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You have the heterosexual bum-ass nigga who's looking to come
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: live at your house. Then you have the heterosexual guy
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: who has his whole shit together, but then he has
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: a choice out of 20 to 30 different women. You
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: got to compete with and then you have the gay
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: men and then, you know, all these other little people
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: in between. But so as a woman, you're getting your
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: own money. I think that black men sometimes have a
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: misconception of exactly what black women want. Like some black
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: women just, yeah, I want somebody to take care of
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: me and I want to keep my money. A lot
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: of people do have that attitude. Well, they'll say that. Right.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: But they really don't live their lives like that because
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: nine times out of 10, they could be taking care
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: of a nigga somewhere. But we want a partner. I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: would want a partner, not just somebody that I'm running
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: through the check, you know? So white women, they are
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: raised and they practice hypergamy. But for whatever reason, for
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Black women, we don't have that option.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck that is.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Hypergamy means you fuck up, not down, basically.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Let me explain what hypergamy is. Some of us would
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: say men are naturally polyamorous. Some would say women are
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: naturally hypergamous, meaning that men want to fuck around, spread
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: their seed as far in life. Women, they want to
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: fuck as high a status male as possible. And so
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: that is, whatever they can get their hands on, whenever
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: they can, that's who they want to be with is
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: the highest status man. And why is that? Because I
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: can create, you know, cum 20 times in a day
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: where I used to be able to. Probably can't do
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: it anymore. But women can't make 20 babies.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: In a day. Right.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: You won't be able to make 20 babies in this world.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: So you have to make choices around where you put
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: your womb. You want to align your womb to the
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: highest value male that can help your child the best
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: chances of success in this world. And that's all it is.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: And I'm not mad about hypergamy and I'm not mad about.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I think more women based on what you're like, I
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: know what hypergamy is and more women need to practice
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: hypergamy because if we did, because we set the standard.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Right, more men would be successful.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Exactly, and children would be taken care of. We wouldn't
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: be having, just having a baby for anybody.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: I can't even argue with your description of the categories
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: of men. That's a good roundabout way of saying it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Those couch lovers, you know, they go from one couch
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: to another couch because rent is high, you know?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: And dick is free. That was so good, Nathan.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Peace.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us and we'd.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Love to have you back.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: One more thing on your team called the Black Men
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Don't Cheat.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Bye, niggas.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: So he didn't really cheat. I mean, he didn't really
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: talk about cheating maybe in another relationship, but he spoke
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: about how he was married for 10 years or so, right?
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he was still married, so that means
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: he was cheating.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he basically said because basically the relationship was over,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: even though the paperwork wasn't done.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: The relationship was over, and that's how he gave himself
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: permission to cheat.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Do you think that holds value? I guess that makes
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: sense to me. She probably ain't give a fuck no
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: more either. And if neither party is.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: In it, then.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially if your man ain't been at home
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: for two months. Right.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: That's not your man. He belongs to the street. Exactly.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Wherever he at.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: But out of the two guys we've heard so far,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: if I had to, like, fuck with one of them,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: it would be corporate, bruh.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: All right. Listen, I would fuck with the corporate nigga,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: and then... Old boy would be my side nigga.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: Shame.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want no parts of the street nigga, man.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Street niggas are fun.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I know, but if I was a 24-year-old fun girl,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: hell yeah.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I'm near.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And I don't give a shit about your responsibilities at home.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I'm running to check up and damn vip.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Like, my favorite is a corporate street nigga.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, I love hood niggas that made it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: They just treat you so nice. My favorite.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: They treat you so nice. And even if they did
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: like maybe three years in prison also. Just three now.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: A little bit more than that. They kind of need therapy.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: We all need therapy. Hood niggas who come home with
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the plan. Yeah, I like hood niggas that made it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Those are my favorite kind. But they like to smoke
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: weed too. They're not too stuffy. But they're not like
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: they still want to get up and go work the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: next day. It's great for me.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: So what do you think about I'm calling him high value.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: What do you think about him and his situation?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm receiving bitter. A little tart.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Just a little, maybe a little jaded, perhaps. I was
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: receiving that in the spirit for some reason. I don't know.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't get that. I thought he was a responsible man.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? He's single, so now he's
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: doing what he want to do, and he said he's
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the super hoe now.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: As long as you don't got other people's feelings involved.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Right, that's fair. But can you really be a super
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: hoe and nobody's feelings are involved?
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I guess it depends on how you're dealing with them,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: how you're fucking them. So that kind of leads us
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to the next conversation. Listen up.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Hi, this is AJ and Tamban from We Talk Back.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for participating in this experiment with dicks.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Experiment with these niggas.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: So we want to ask you just like some questions
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: about you, your relationship with your dick and others.
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: Okay. All right.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: So first, just tell us a little bit about yourself, Ezra.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm an executive at my company and I graduated college,
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: kind of moved around. I live out west and I
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: live on the East Coast now. So I'm a black
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: gay male. So I've been in relationships with females and
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: with guys.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: So I'm a little bit diverse in my dating population.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Which do you prefer?
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Guys, for sure.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Have you had it?
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: It's my personal favorite.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Definitely need more of that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: So we're just going to ask you like a series
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: of questions. The first one.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: What was his last serious relationship? Are you currently in
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: a relationship?
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not currently in a relationship.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: I just got out of a situation yesterday, so congratulations
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: to me for that.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yay!
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: New year, new me.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Middle finger to my old life.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Before that, it was like.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Like three years ago. And that's the last person I
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: was with a couple years ago.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: So question, have you ever cheated?
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I've cheated and been cheated on.
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: So I know both.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Sides.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, facts.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I've never cheated. I'm innocent. But when you decided to cheat,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: how did you give yourself permission to do that? What
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: was the thought that was like, you know what? I'm
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: about to go do this.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: Um for me i was kind of like the provider
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: in that relationship you know i was taking care of
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: all the bills i was like providing us a house
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: to stay in i paid for two cars like i
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: had a lot of shit that i'm taking care of
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: as a man take care of another man so that
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: shit gets real real quick and then when it came
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: down time to like you know i'm coming home.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: From work i had to work like an hour and
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: a half from where i.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: Live so i'm coming home from work you don't have
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: like shit together you don't have like the house in
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: order you ain't cook nothing like what value are you
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: adding to my life so when I be at work
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: you know people showing.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Me love and attention and affection.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: And like you know I'm at a place at work
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: where people are like spending on me and I feel
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: good I was like I want to do that and
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: I ended up like fucking with a guy in the
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: city that I was working in just because.
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: Shit I like nice stuff too so you basically yeah
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: so because I've been in a situation like that before
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: and it does kind of put you and I'm a
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: woman heterosexual and I was in a relationship with a
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: man at the time and he wasn't doing much.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I understand that so if you wear the pants You
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: think you can just go cheat?
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think yesterday that you can go cheat.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: I think that if you're not, if something's not being
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: satisfied in your life, like, now I've been through, like,
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: therapy and shit. So I would know to, like, talk
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: about it and say, like, be more vocal and say, like, yo,
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: this isn't working for me because one, two, three, and four. Versus, like,
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: just being upset about it coming home and, like, flipping out.
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: And then when I get the chance to get what
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: I want, getting it elsewhere. Like, I could have just
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: talked about it. Because the sex at home was good
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: as fuck. Like, we had really good sex. every time
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: we did hook up, like, that's part of the reason
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: why I stayed is sexually good, but with everything else,
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: I just wasn't getting the full picture, so I just
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: got that from somebody else who could give it to me.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: So it was just about the stuff that made you
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: step out. It wasn't sex. It was material things that
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: was missing from your relationship.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: I can't say, like, material shit, because I don't know.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: I'm not the kind of person that needs.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: Material things as much. It was more so the level
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: of affection and, like, hustle. Like, that was an attractive
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: trait to me, and I wasn't I was losing that
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: attraction for my partner. So I found it in somebody
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: else who was hustling on a grind. And, you know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: that that was attractive to me. And I was able
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: to get that versus at home. I'm coming home and
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: your lady has been sitting at the house all day. Like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: you know, you like we ain't got no kids. How
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: you like a stay at home mom?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: But you never had. So so through therapy after the situation,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: you learned how to then communicate your feelings better. So
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: then at that time, you didn't communicate to the person
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: you were with how you felt and how they weren't
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: meeting whatever expectations you had for them. You didn't communicate that.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: You just went out and slept with somebody else to
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: complete your happiness.
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, we had some conversation. Like, I would express
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: my frustrations in general about, like, the fact that you're
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: not on your shit. And then I would say, like, well,
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: you know, I.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Can be kind of an asshole sometimes.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: So I was like, well, you know, like, somebody gonna
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: make sure I'm straight and just laugh it off like
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: a little joke. So I kind of was, like, alluding
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: to that. But... It wasn't a joke. Like, I'm going
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: to get what I need.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Most jokes have some truth to it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: They do. And mine definitely packed a big punch because
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: I definitely cheated and got caught.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I'm going to get my dick sucked today.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Because you ain't washed the dishes.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: If you ain't washed the dishes, I'm getting my dick sucked.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: That's an even trade, right?
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: I feel like that's an even trade. Like, if you
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: ain't done shit for 12 hours, I deserve to do
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: whatever I want to do once.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Did you possess any guilt?
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I felt bad because I had to come home.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: You know, I think it wasn't even.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Like I'm out there.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I felt bad because I had to come home.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: Like, in the first instance, like, I just got my
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: dick sucked by some nigga, and now I'm about to
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: come home to you and you about to kiss me
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: in my face. Like, that's kind of fucked up.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Well, that's good that you, you know, you possess the guilt,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: because some niggas, like, sleep peacefully after they got their
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: dick sucked.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Come home and fuck you, too.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: With the same dick that ain't even been washed.
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I did some of that, too.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: See?
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: And I got that, like, you know.
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: When you come home and, like, you've been out bitching about, like,
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: how you ain't do nothing all this time, then you
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: come home that one time, you're cheating. You come home
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: and then clean the house, cook the meals. I got
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: the whole situation together. And you're like, oh, and they
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: want to like fuck with you right then, you know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: because they've been working up to it. So it's like, hey,
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: I just got my dick. So you got to be
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: able to get it back up. So it's not ideal.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Did you did you build a relationship with your outside
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: partner or was it just, you know, like it is
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: what it is and I see you later. This ain't
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: that and that ain't this. So don't get too caught up.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Or was it, like, y'all started building an emotional connection, perhaps?
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, bro had a whole girlfriend.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: So, like, he had his own situation.
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: And we both were traveling for work. So, in town,
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: it was like, that was my nigga.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: This is going into something else.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: So, wait.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: So, that makes him.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: So, maybe this... Tell me if this term is correct.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: That would make him a trade.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: A trade, yes.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: So, he wasn't openly bisexual to his girl?
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Nah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: He wasn't open to nobody.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: at all we actually met.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: At the hotel like we were at the same hotel
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: and like he was traveling I was traveling he was
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: at the bar and like so I'm aggressive with my
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: shots so I just be like yo what's up you
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: cool like we should hang out and then we just
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: hung out and he started like you know he had
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: a better job than me just in general he was
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: just a man you know who was taking care of
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: business in whatever form that was so that was attractive
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: to me that you know so we both in town
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: we would fuck around and we'd go back to our
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: houses and it is what it.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Is That's so fucking scary, man. Shit. I'm trying to
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: figure out, okay, see, because this is going into something different.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out the, and I guess this
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: is not a question for you. We have to find
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: somebody who is a tree, basically. Because I want to
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: understand their thought process when cheating with the same sex.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: That's a different episode.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: While not here.
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: I can definitely hook you up for the next episode.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Please.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Nigga.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Please.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: The trade episode.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: No, the trade is real.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: And they not who you think they are.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I already know.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I already know. I already know.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because everybody like to think like light-skinned green eyes,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the gay guy.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: No.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: No.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: The trade is Omar from, uh.
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: From fucking the wire.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Or the nigga right around here with the donk.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: This dude right here, I'm talking about a 6'2, brown king....
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Do you think you were a different person in the
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: affair to the outside partner? Like, were you the same
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: at home with this person? Or did you display a
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: different side of yourself to him? Like, were you more
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: the submissive with the trait?
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: I mean, not necessarily.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: Because at the same time, like, the trade, the thing
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: about them is they usually want you to be, like,
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: the man when it comes to, like, the bedroom stuff.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Like, they really put on, like, in the.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, in the city, like, around town, they giving off, like, oh,
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: I'm the man, I'm the man.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: But when they get in that bedroom, it's, like, them down.
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: Like, they turn into a whole leggy, so, you know. Like,
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: So I was still, I was running it either way sexually,
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: but when it came to like, when we went out
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: to dinner or something like that, he's running that. You know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: so it was like, he was the dude out, quote unquote,
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: the dude in the street, but at the hotel room,
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: he was still, he.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Was the girl.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: See, I'm going to say it here for everybody to know,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I would kill my nigga if I found out.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: That he was getting fucked. You feel bad if he
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: was doing the fucking?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Yes. Really? To a woman?
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Either way, I'm mad it's a nigga and not another woman.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: But to insult the injury, not only are you fucking
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: with another nigga, but you're also getting fucked.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: It's crazy. We don't talk anymore because the way I got.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Caught cheating is that nigga gave me the STD. Wait.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: So wait.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Did Trey give.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: You an STD?
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: No.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: The trade. The trade gave me the STD.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Did you pass it on to your partner at home?
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: And that's how you got caught?
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: That's how I got caught.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: And what was the conversation that day? Hey, my dick
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: is burning a little bit. What's your dick feeling like?
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: I didn't say nothing at first. I woke up and
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: I was like, hmm. this ain't this ain't right i
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: went ahead and went to the urgent care you know
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: and got checked out and they told me i had
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: uh gonorrhea i was like fuck because i knew i
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: had just like fucked with my my main like my
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: like the dude that was with me so i knew
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: i just had sex with him i was like dang
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: that means he probably got it so i gotta tell
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: him and i love he was scheming on like if
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: i was gonna just like get.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Extra pills and just like put them in a smoothie
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: or something but i didn't want to have that but
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: I was steaming.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: I was like, oh.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: That's how niggas do it playing bees, probably.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: You want another mimosa?
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make that. I think I swallowed a
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: piece of ice just now.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, stop babysitting that drink.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Drink that shit, bitch.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Hurry. 72 hours.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Right. We got one more hour before I'm with daddy.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: Right, you know, but then the doctor told me how
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: to get, like, a shot, too, and I was like.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Dang, I can't get no shot. We hit that nigga
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: from the back and stabbed him in the butt right quick.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: Ow!
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going deep, baby.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: So instead, I just, like, accused him of cheating on me. Oh, wow.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: I was on the most fucked nigga shit you ever seen.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Toxic and smug. Yeah, that was fuckboy behavior.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Fuckboy shit.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: He probably got it from his bitch who was getting
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: some dick on the side too.
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah I actually did tell him but he like after
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: that he just ghosted like he just went away I
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: was like you gonna give me something and leave me
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: alone fucking.
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: Creep right that made me feel like he knew he
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: had something right.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: I really feel like he knew it but I mean
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: at the same time like I did appreciate the great
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: sex for that time for that like.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Time frame so I mean the price you pay for being.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Old no more I just have one bit of advice
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: no more outside.
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: Dick No more outside.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Because that outside did keep them whole safe.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: Back to the street.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Man, we definitely have to have him back on.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: For a trade show.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: The trade.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk about the trade. Because that's
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: a whole other ballgame, baby.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Girl, I'm scared of these niggas.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: I'm scared of the trade.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: That was very interesting. So basically, he said that the person,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: they had bomb sex at home, but this person wasn't
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: doing anything. So this person wasn't bringing me resources to
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: the pot. So I'm the man in the house. I'm
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: financing your entire life. I deserve to cheat with his attitude.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: And the moral is... nobody, woman or man, wants lazy dick.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: Get up.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Do something with yourself. Nobody wants it. Gay, straight, woman,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: nobody wants it.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: So wait, I wonder if society would say, oh, his
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: standards too high, how they do us.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: How you do black women. Our standards too high because
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: we want you to meet us halfway.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want my man to also enjoy the hate
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: like I.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Don't yeah and I'm not I'm not opposed like I
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I have gay friends I hate to say it like
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: that my people my white people be like I have
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: black friends right but I have gay friends but I
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: have gay friends they're not straddling the fence right you
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: see what I'm saying so if that's what you like
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: you need to make you need to at some point
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: man you got to come out the closet own it
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: because there are women out here who are okay with
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: that shit right Like, it's not a problem. You can
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: do both. And y'all can all do it together in, like,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the little bi little sequel type shit.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Right, whatever you want to do.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: But don't be deceitful, man.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: So let me tell you, uh, let me tell y'all
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: a little secret that I do. When I'm, like, getting
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: an old man before we fuck, like, I'll put on
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: a movie with a gay scene in it, and then
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: we'll just be chilling, and then when the gay scene
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: comes on, when it's good into it, I grab his dick.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Ha ha!
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Just to see if it's hard because if it's hard
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: uh-uh baby sending you back to the streets that's terrible
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: why is that terrible i don't know because i feel
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: like is there a correlation like okay so it's a
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: sexual act going on right so should the man penis
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: not get hard at all.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: But two niggas fucking no I don't know, man. I
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: heard Pornhub said there's a lot of gay porn being watched.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: So guys, honestly, are y'all getting a hard on during
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: gay scenes with men? If you are, then you need
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: to explore that.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: But they may not necessarily like a man, but maybe
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: they're aroused by that.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Explore that.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Because I don't like women, but I like orgy sex.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I like to watch orgy porn with everybody fucking and
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: touching and spitting and sucking. I like all that shit.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: But you don't want.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: You might want to explore that. No, I don't. I
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: like a lot of dick. Not like at one time.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: You said it right.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I like woman-on-woman porn. I don't usually watch porn.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: With men in it, but You just watch lesbian porn?
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: That's it. I don't really watch porn though. I'm more
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: of an imagination girl.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched porn in a while.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: I only discovered porn in 2017.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: I always use my imagination. That's it.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: So if you're in a relationship and masturbating and then
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: having a thought about somebody else, a scene that you've
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: done with somebody else.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Normally when I'm in a relationship, if I'm masturbating, I
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: think about him.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. You're not thinking about somebody else?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: No, really. I think about past sexual experiences and usually
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: it's with the nigga that I'm dealing with at the time.
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: That's how it goes. I watched the porn.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool. You watch the porn a lot. Who's
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: your favorite porn bitch?
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, female?
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot. You don't like girls.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I don't even know who's the poppin' porn guys now. Like,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: You're not into it?
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I used to like Mr. Marcus a lot of years ago.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: That's old school right there.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, but then one day he was like fucking a
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: bitch in the kitchen on the scene and he had
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: like this dent in his balls and it turned me off.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: And from that point on, I did not like Mr.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: Marcus.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: He had like a little dent in his balls.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: AJ does not like dinty balls.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: It's like almost the equivalent to like how men like
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: to talk shit about women who have like longer labias
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: or whatever. That's the equivalent. Like your dick is ran through.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Why your balls look like that?
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Your dick is ran through? Your balls beat up? He
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: got them beat up balls, girl. I can't do it.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, he'd be ashy down there, like, ugh.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not cute.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Then I remember, I don't know if it was him. Oh,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: what was the other guy's name? Now, I used to
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: like to see this dude fuck. Oh, no, hell no,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: not Byron.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I forgot.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: This nigga be giving you back rubs while he got
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: the dick in you.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, that sounds nice.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Like, how you rubbing the damn porn bitch? you giving
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: her a back massage with the dick.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: It's for the entertainment purposes girls men that sounds really
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: good so try that with your lady tonight you're welcome
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: ladies so what did we learn today.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I learned shit me neither man
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like we need to interview some more people I.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Don't think we gonna learn anything different these niggas just
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: go sorry these men.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: We should also do women to see why women.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. We need to talk.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want this to be one sided.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I don't want men to feel like this is like
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: a man bash podcast because it's not.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Because we be on some bullshit, too. There's such things
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: as a fuck girl.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: And we just wanted to hear men's truth, you know,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: and I feel like we got to receive that today
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: just based upon the voice to be recognition.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: So women, if there are any ladies who would like
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to participate in Again, send us an email or you
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: can hit us up on Instagram. Our Instagram is We
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Talk Back Podcast. So it's at We Talk Back Podcast.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Or you can email us and let us know you
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: want to participate. At wetalkbackpod at gmail.com. And we would
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: much appreciate it.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: We're going to be talking some real shit on this show.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: We have like so many different segments that we've created.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: There's going to be so much fun for y'all to
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: participate with us. What's some of the segments that we got, AJ?
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: One of my favorites, dumb bitch stories. Oh, yes. Yes.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: We want to hear your dumb bitch stories. You know,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: not necessarily just, you know, trying to play you calling
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: you a dumb bitch, but, you know, it gives us
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to maybe coach you a little bit. I
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: like to think of myself as a whole coach.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: And it also gives us an opportunity to laugh at
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: your ass.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, it do.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: If we can't laugh at our own shit, what can
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: we laugh at?
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: All of us have been a dumb bitch before.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Because I remember crying in my eclipse, bitch. That shit
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: was no fun.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: That shit was different. That's your old life.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: I had to level up with them tears and the clips.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: The clips didn't have no AC. I used to ride
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: with the top down, but I remember it was raining,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: so I didn't have no AC, and I rolled the
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: windows up in the summertime. Bitch, I almost died on 77th.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: That motherfucker got steamed.
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: Out.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: And I called the same nigga that was cheating on me.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: He was like, I can't see. And he was just like.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: You said the same nigga that was cheating on you?
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: And he was just like, bitch, let me know when you.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Make it home safe.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Damn. Man, women, do not be out here using your
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: vagina on someone that you cannot depend on. That's all
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: dumb bitch advice for today. Facts.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Along with dumb bitch stories, we're doing dumb bitch advice.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: Oh, wait.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Do I need to be the first dumb.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Bitch of the motherfucking show?
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: God damn. I need to sign up today.
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: Of 2021.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: That's an old dumb bitch story, though. You have that
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: dumb bitch memory.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: That was a long time ago.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: We making new dumb bitch memories now. We're talking to
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: any women out here right now who has a quarter
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: tank of gas, bald tires, oil change light on.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: And you calling your brother.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And you riding to his nigga house in those conditions. Right.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: And then when you need help, your brother come out
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: to help you instead of the nigga you fucking with.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: And you getting a whole attitude because your brother won't come.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Don't be her.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Re-evaluate your vagina, ma'am.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: So that's going to be a real fun segment. Ask
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: a Black Friend. This is an opportunity for you. non-Black
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: people to call in or email us and ask questions
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: to us that you wouldn't normally ask the Black people
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: who exist around you. Or maybe you don't even have
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: any Black people around you. and you're in Wyoming or
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: some shit like that, and you want to ask some
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Black people about some shit.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anything. Like, why do we use lorries?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: So that's Ask a Black Friend. Call up, ask us anything.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Email us, ask us any question. It'll save you from
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: getting your ass beat in your own community or going
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: viral for some dumb shit, and now you... Out here
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: in the airport screaming, talking about, I love all of y'all.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: You saw that white man?
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: All right, y'all.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: So if y'all like this conversation today, you can follow
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: us on Instagram right now. We Talk Back Podcast at
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: We Talk Back Podcast. And we'd also like to hear
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: y'all's stories. So email us at wetalkbackent at gmail.com. And
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: what's your social media, Tam?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: I'm OfficialTamBam on Instagram. So y'all follow me there. I'll
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: be posting nudes.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Get that money, honey. Might as well do a OnlyFans.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm AJ. You can hit me up at AJHoliday2. 0.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: All right. And we out.
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  Speaker 2: Bye.
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