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Top 10 Coaches List, On3 vs 247Sports, Trump on Josh Pate, USC Theft (Wild Episode) · Unafraid Show with George Wrighster

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Speaker 1: College Football Apostles is here. We got a lot to
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Speaker 1: talk about. The NCAA is getting ready to do something ridiculous.
0:17
Speaker 1: We're talking about vacating wins. Welcome to the College foot
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Speaker 1: Ball Show. It's your boy, George Rich. So we got
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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about today. So Gunner Rivers, son
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Speaker 1: of Philip Rivers, he commits to NC State, and it
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Speaker 1: ignites a major beef between on three Slash Rivals and
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Speaker 1: two four seven Sports about what should have been a
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Speaker 1: great story about a NFL father, Philip Rivers just played
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Speaker 1: in the league this year, and then that turned into
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Speaker 1: a war of words between some very powerful companies, a
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Speaker 1: very powerful people talk about Jacoby Lane and what happened
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Speaker 1: with his locker getting rated, and then somebody had the
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Speaker 1: nerve to try to defend it and be like, oh,
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Speaker 1: players still up. I gotta give you a story about
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Speaker 1: when I went to USC for a game, something like
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Speaker 1: this happened and we got frisked. That's all I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: give you up front. Donald Trump went on Josh Pate show,
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Speaker 1: actually called him to get on the show, and the
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Speaker 1: interview that Josh ended up getting a lot of hate
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Speaker 1: for turned out to be a total dud, and I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna explain to you how I would have handled it
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Speaker 1: and what my real reaction is to it. Because I'm
1:46
Speaker 1: college football is honesty broker, and I have to tell
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Speaker 1: you the truth. I'm going to give you my top
1:53
Speaker 1: ten coaches in college football list. Some people aren't gonna
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Speaker 1: be real happy about it, but you know what, the
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Speaker 1: true must be told. And then also i gotta give.
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Speaker 2: You my.
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Speaker 1: Enforcement, my enforcement for college football and how we do it.
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Speaker 1: And also the best thing that I have seen all
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Speaker 1: year from these college football coaches. And that's up next.
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Speaker 1: I'm George Reister. Make sure that you like, share, subscribe,
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Speaker 1: tell a friend about the show, and most importantly share.
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Speaker 1: Now it is top ten. All right, let's get to it.
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Speaker 1: Like I already told you, like share, subscribe, tell a
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Speaker 1: friend about the show. Everything else, let's get into it.
2:51
Speaker 1: So we are going to start with what was supposed
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Speaker 1: to be a great day, what was supposed to be
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Speaker 1: a memorable moment for a family, Philip Rivers and his family.
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Speaker 1: It turned into a war of words about college football recruiting.
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Speaker 1: So Gunner Rivers committed to NC State, where Philip Rivers play.
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Speaker 1: So he's a twenty twenty seven quarterback out of Michael
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Speaker 1: Catholic in Alabama. The kid already has one hundred and
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Speaker 1: eleven touchdown passes, ten thousand yards thrown for, and everything else.
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Speaker 1: Dad is the coach place for a which is mid
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Speaker 1: level competition in Alabama. According to two four seven Skins,
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Speaker 1: the number six quarterback in twenty twenty seven and a
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Speaker 1: four star, and then on Rivals, which is owned by
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Speaker 1: on three, he's the number twenty seven quarterback in the
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Speaker 1: country and a three star. Now this has sparked all
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Speaker 1: sorts of debate because because recruiting rankings have always been
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Speaker 1: a thing, they have always been a thing for people.
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Speaker 1: They get upset about it, they get frustrated with it.
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Speaker 1: And I understand as as a parent, I one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent feel you lived it myself right. So here's the
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Speaker 1: way the ratings. Let me explain the ratings to you.
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Speaker 1: So a five star quarterback a five star player. Mind you,
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Speaker 1: there are only thirty two five stars. A five star
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Speaker 1: is projected to be a first round pick in the
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Speaker 1: NFL draft, a four star is projected to be an
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Speaker 1: NFL pick and a power for All Conference player, and
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Speaker 1: a three star is an eventual power for starter or
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Speaker 1: a G five All Conference player. That's what that's supposed
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Speaker 1: to mean. Okay, the way you fully understand what it
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Speaker 1: all means, and then the portal. It actually makes high
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Speaker 1: school rankings a little less important as far as its
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Speaker 1: need for an industry comparison, but extremely important when it
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Speaker 1: comes to building personal height. Now, remember your rankings also
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Speaker 1: helped determine your nil and everything else. It's just the truth,
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Speaker 1: just how it works out. Now, you got a small
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Speaker 1: school in the South that has a legacy last name
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Speaker 1: in Philip Rivers. That didn't you know that same situation.
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Speaker 1: It didn't hurt arch Manny, who was unanimously highly ranked
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people had as the number one
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Speaker 1: player in the country. But in the case of Rivers,
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Speaker 1: we have one of the largest evaluation gaps between two
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Speaker 1: of the giants because nobody really played pays attention to
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Speaker 1: ESPN's rankings because they just don't have the same bandwidth,
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Speaker 1: and they're paying more attention to professional sports and actual
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Speaker 1: college sports as well. Now, how this beefall started is
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Speaker 1: that you had a publisher for NC State named Corey Smith,
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Speaker 1: and he said that the reason Rivers dropped into composite
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Speaker 1: rankings after committing to NC State. Was because Rivers was
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Speaker 1: because he committed to NC State. So they dropped them. So,
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Speaker 1: and here are the tweets to show you exactly what happened.
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Speaker 1: Because so you had the head of ON three and Rivals,
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Speaker 1: Shannon Terry, who is you know, a legendary builder of
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Speaker 1: these sorts of sites. He tweeted and he defended it.
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Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, if you don't like it, then
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Speaker 1: then just drop us out of the composite rankings. But
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Speaker 1: here's the actual truth is that Rivals had a scheduled update.
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Speaker 1: Mind you, the rankings are already done, graphics are already done.
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Speaker 1: They just so happened to have a ratings update that
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Speaker 1: so coincided with when this kid announced his announcement. And
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Speaker 1: then you had the VP of two four seven, Adam Stenko.
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Speaker 1: He weighed in and he said, quote, we prioritize our
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Speaker 1: own rankings because our national team meticulously evaluates year round.
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Speaker 1: Players don't move based on offers or commitments. Evaluation is
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Speaker 1: the only driver of movement always. Okay, So that is
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Speaker 1: not exactly true. And when I say this, I mean
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Speaker 1: this would all due respect to all the people that
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Speaker 1: do all the rankings and everything else. I don't believe
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Speaker 1: people are out there taking money to change rankings in
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Speaker 1: the aggregate. Right, of course, there's bad you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: people who aren't doing exactly what they're supposed to do,
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Speaker 1: But I believe in general people are doing the right things.
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Speaker 1: The issue is this, you have millions of high school
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Speaker 1: high school football players, over a million by far. There
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Speaker 1: is a zero percent chance that they can evaluate everybody.
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Speaker 1: So you have you know, twenty thirty forty fifty people
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Speaker 1: evaluating a ton of kids. So there are plenty of
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Speaker 1: kids that don't get the look that they need to.
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Speaker 1: And this is how you end up with three star
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Speaker 1: guys well outperforming five star guys. You're trying to project growth.
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Speaker 1: You don't know that a three star guy hadn't hit
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Speaker 1: his gross spurt yet, and then he ends up, you know,
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Speaker 1: more physically developed than even the five star guy, which
8:19
Speaker 1: looked like you know, Tarzan in high school and then
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Speaker 1: didn't develop any anymore. So, and as a player who
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Speaker 1: as well as somebody who had my kid go through
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Speaker 1: this same situation, I get it for a pearance because
8:37
Speaker 1: on one hand, you're like, I know my kids better
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Speaker 1: than that kid, But your situation also matters. And these
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Speaker 1: are subjective rankings. Now why did the rankings matter? And
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Speaker 1: why do all these things matter in general? Because you'll
8:51
Speaker 1: have peopleople tell you rankings don't matter. Yes they do.
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Speaker 1: They don't matter in terms of when you get on
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Speaker 1: the field, but they do matter and you being able
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Speaker 1: to get on the field. I have talked to coaches,
9:05
Speaker 1: I have talked to former player personnel people and former
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Speaker 1: scouts in college, and when they're sitting in these meetings,
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Speaker 1: there are some coaches they will ask this question. They
9:17
Speaker 1: will put on a film of a kid, and they'll
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Speaker 1: be like, yo, I like that kid. Who's offered them already?
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Speaker 1: That question should not even matter until after the first
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Speaker 1: question that should matter is And any coach who says
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Speaker 1: who has offered him already of a kid that they
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Speaker 1: like before they make a decision on whether they want
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Speaker 1: to offer them or not, they're doing the job wrong.
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Speaker 1: If you are doing the job right, if you say,
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Speaker 1: if you're giving an honest evaluation, you're like, yo, that
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Speaker 1: kid can play at our school. If so, then give
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Speaker 1: them an offer. But too often coaches will say, well,
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Speaker 1: who's offering him already? Let's say, and I'm using and
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Speaker 1: I'm not using this as an example of somebody who
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Speaker 1: has done this. I'm using this as as a name
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Speaker 1: the way you understand a level of school. Let's say
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Speaker 1: it's a Tennessee Uh. The Tennessee Volunteers coach says, oh, wow, man,
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Speaker 1: we like this quarterback. Who's offered him already? Uh? Nobody,
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Speaker 1: We'll keep we'll keep tabs on him. Another quarterback, Ah,
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Speaker 1: he's okay, who's offered him? Wait for us U, n
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Speaker 1: l V Minnesota? Oh okay, okay, give him get give
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Speaker 1: him a little bit of love. Next quarterback up. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if he's that great? All right? Who's offered him?
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Speaker 1: N C State, Alabama, Texas? Damn, we can't miss Miss South.
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Speaker 1: Maybe there's something that we're not seeing. Maybe this is,
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Speaker 1: you know, not the way that we're not looking at
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Speaker 1: this right that's the issue. That's the issue right there.
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Speaker 1: This is the same reason why Bill Moose hired Scott
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Speaker 1: Frost knowing that he was not the right coach for Nebraska.
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Speaker 1: So if you're looking at your head coach, you need
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Speaker 1: to be able to ask him, are you evaluating based
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Speaker 1: upon are you playing out of scarcity? Or are you
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Speaker 1: looking at the tape saying yeah, that kid can play
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Speaker 1: for us, or no he can't, despite what the rankings say.
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Speaker 1: I think that that is highly important and what you
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Speaker 1: should be looking for out of your head, coach. And
11:42
Speaker 1: this is why some coaches are able to do a
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Speaker 1: lot with three stars and some are not able to
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Speaker 1: do a lot with five stars, because some of them
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Speaker 1: are recruiting off lists and they don't want to miss
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Speaker 1: They're like, ah, we'll take a chance on this kid.
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Speaker 1: He's so highly highly ranked. We must have missed something. No, oh,
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Speaker 1: you didn't trust your system, trust your beliefs, stand on business,
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Speaker 1: all right. The next thing that we got to talk
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Speaker 1: talk about, Oh my god, there was more drama. This
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Speaker 1: drama happened over at USC, and this involves Jacoby Lane.
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Speaker 1: Now you can see the kids name here, but I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to mention the kid's name because because the
12:23
Speaker 1: story is the story. So Jacoby Lane tweeted out and
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Speaker 1: he made massive waves saying that somebody stole things out
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Speaker 1: of his locker. Now, Jacoby Lane USC wide receiver. He's
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Speaker 1: headed to the NFL after three years at USC. Now
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Speaker 1: he tweeted about a recruit out of Utah. He said, quote,
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Speaker 1: this kid stole my cleats and a bunch of stuff
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Speaker 1: from the SC locker room. Now, this is a damning accusation,
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Speaker 1: and he posted the picture. You see pictures here, you
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Speaker 1: see gloves, you see cleats, you see towels, everything else. Now,
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Speaker 1: the one thing that gave this credence. Obviously, Jacoby Lane's
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Speaker 1: not gonna say that somebody stole something, and nobody stole anything.
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Speaker 1: But in this pile of cleats, there's a pair of
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Speaker 1: cleats that I promise you Jacoby Lane would not have
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Speaker 1: given away. And that is a pair of the USC
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Speaker 1: Kobe cleats. Those are hard to come by. Only USC
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Speaker 1: got them, and not even everybody on USC's team got them.
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Speaker 1: So Jacoby Lane is not gonna want somebody to have
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Speaker 1: those cleats. He absolutely would have kept those those cleats. Now,
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Speaker 1: Jacoby Lane blew the lid off of something that has
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Speaker 1: been going on forever, and it's actually annoying, but it's
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Speaker 1: an accepted part of the culture of hosting recruits. Recruits
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Speaker 1: sometimes when they're going through locker rooms and all this stuff.
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Speaker 1: And remember, not everybody that goes through that locker room
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Speaker 1: that's a quote unquote recruit. Because remember seven on seven
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Speaker 1: teams will come through in mass so you'll you'll have,
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Speaker 1: you know, on a tournament, like if you're at Arizona
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Speaker 1: State and it's a big tournament down there in Phoenix,
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Speaker 1: you may have ten seven on seven teams come through
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Speaker 1: Arizona State. They'll take them into the locker room everything.
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Speaker 1: And the issue is this is that if a locker
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Speaker 1: is open or anything, not all of those kids are
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Speaker 1: getting recruited by ASU. There's one or two kids on
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Speaker 1: the whole seven on sevent team that ASU may be
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Speaker 1: interested in, or Oregon or Michigan or whatever other school.
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Speaker 1: It is only a couple of the kids are actually
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Speaker 1: interested in. And those kids, if they want some cleats,
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Speaker 1: they want some gloves, they want some towels, they can
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Speaker 1: just ask somebody like, hey, yo, I need some you know,
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Speaker 1: can you can you give me some you know, some
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Speaker 1: ASSU swag, some USC swags, some Oregon swags, some Alabama swag,
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna get it. So you don't have to
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Speaker 1: steal anything. But there has been for a long time.
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Speaker 1: And why a lot of these locker rooms have these
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Speaker 1: stated art lockers where there are digital codes, there's everything else.
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Speaker 1: And you guys hop in the comments and tell me,
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Speaker 1: have y'all ever stolen anything out of somebody's locker room?
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Speaker 1: And if you have, tell tell me how that worked,
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Speaker 1: how you felt about yourself. Because I've never done it.
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Speaker 1: I've never done it. My kid has never done it,
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Speaker 1: because I've been on a lot of the trips with him.
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Speaker 1: If he ever wanted anything, he just asked, then they
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Speaker 1: gave it to him. So is Jakobe Lane? Is he
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Speaker 1: laying for blowing off the lid off the operation that
15:55
Speaker 1: you know that prospects have been benefiting from for years?
16:00
Speaker 1: And then there was pushback from the Houston dB. A
16:05
Speaker 1: former Houston dB named Jace Rogers, and he tweeted, quote,
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Speaker 1: you might be the first person in the history to
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Speaker 1: post something like this. When you were in this position,
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Speaker 1: you did the same thing. We all did that slang.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that stealing is stealing. You can't take
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Speaker 1: something from somebody's locker Players will give it to you.
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Speaker 1: I remember when when I was coming out, I got
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Speaker 1: stuffed from players. I would just ask for it. And
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Speaker 1: then a lot of these kids know players at these schools,
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Speaker 1: They'll just ask the big the big homie for it. Hey, yo, yo,
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Speaker 1: can I get a towel. Can I get some gloves
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Speaker 1: because they come a dime a dozen. They can get
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Speaker 1: a new pair of gloves. They can get that, it's
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Speaker 1: no problem. So I don't understand why this is trying
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Speaker 1: to normalize stealing from other people, because this makes zero
16:55
Speaker 1: sense to me. I hated it from a jump. I
16:58
Speaker 1: thought it was a bad idea ida and but apparently
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Speaker 1: people want to normalize this sort of thing. Now. That
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Speaker 1: brought me to what happened when I was in high
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Speaker 1: school story time people, I SUTU to have a pipe
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Speaker 1: that I pull out, like, okay, so it's story time
17:21
Speaker 1: when I was getting recruited out of out of high school. Now,
17:23
Speaker 1: mind you, at that point in time, USC was not good, right,
17:27
Speaker 1: So any of the USC fans on here for first
17:31
Speaker 1: of all, like share, subscribe, tell a friend about the show.
17:36
Speaker 1: Any USC fans, Oh, you're mad they didn't recruit you. Now,
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Speaker 1: I've had no interest in going to to USC. But anyways,
17:42
Speaker 1: I go to a USC game and my I think
17:44
Speaker 1: it was my junior year, so this would have been
17:46
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. Actually, excuse me, nineteen ninety seven. It
17:52
Speaker 1: was either ninety seven or ninety eight. I go to
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Speaker 1: go to this game at the coliseum. We go into
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Speaker 1: the locker room after the game, and now mind, gloves
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Speaker 1: were not as plentiful as they are now. They'd be
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Speaker 1: a little more tight lipped with the gloves. And they
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Speaker 1: weren't the color gloves. They were all the gray gloves.
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Speaker 1: That was when they had changed everybody in college football.
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Speaker 1: Everybody had to wear gray gloves. So go in the
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Speaker 1: locker room. We're getting ready to leave out of the
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Speaker 1: locker room. It's me, ten fifteen other high school kids
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Speaker 1: in the locker room. And then we're getting ready to
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Speaker 1: leave out. They stop us on the way out and
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Speaker 1: they're like, somebody took something. Somebody took a pair of
18:38
Speaker 1: gloves out of a player's locker, one pair of gloves.
18:43
Speaker 1: Like that's odd, that's weird, and somebody, and so they
18:48
Speaker 1: frisked us. They literally frisked us from top to bottom
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Speaker 1: before you could get out of the locker room, to
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Speaker 1: make sure that you did not have sad pair of gloves.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, this is the kind of thing
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Speaker 1: we're doing around here at USC. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: go here. I didn't want to go here anyway, I
19:06
Speaker 1: damn sure don't want to go here now and now,
19:08
Speaker 1: mind you, these are the sorts of small negative interactions
19:12
Speaker 1: that do impact recruiting decisions. And yes, USC would have
19:18
Speaker 1: been happy to have me, because yes, all conference sight
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Speaker 1: in goes to NFL. Yes, so miss me, you USC
19:26
Speaker 1: fans who think you're too good. But these are the
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Speaker 1: sorts of things that ignited. And you can't be stealing
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Speaker 1: from people when you can just ask this is, this
19:37
Speaker 1: is stupid, this is and Jakobe Lane is not lame.
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Speaker 1: If you steal my stuff, you should be able to
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Speaker 1: uh to to point that out. And then the other
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Speaker 1: thing is, if I were a head coach in college football,
19:51
Speaker 1: I'm having a zero tolerance policy for theft. I don't
19:55
Speaker 1: care if you are the number one recruiting in the nation.
19:57
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're on my team. Already the
19:59
Speaker 1: will get you up out of here, because it's got
20:02
Speaker 1: to be a safe space in the locker room for
20:05
Speaker 1: you to be able to do your thing and everything else.
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Speaker 1: I'm not with that at all. All right, Next thing up, boy,
20:13
Speaker 1: old boy, did Josh Pate end up causing himself some Trump?
20:21
Speaker 1: All right, so Donald Trump ended up on Josh Pate's show. Now,
20:28
Speaker 1: now let me establish right out of the gate, because
20:33
Speaker 1: I am college football is honesty broker. I'm the man
20:35
Speaker 1: that is going to tell you the truth, even if
20:39
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear it. So here we go.
20:46
Speaker 1: I had no issue with Josh Pate interviewing Donald Trump.
20:53
Speaker 1: Most people would do the same thing. Now, some people
20:59
Speaker 1: have said said to me, George, you would absolutely interview. Yeah,
21:02
Speaker 1: I would, but my questions would have been a little
21:05
Speaker 1: bit different. And now, mind you, this is no disparagement
21:08
Speaker 1: to a Josh's his college football show. He gets to
21:11
Speaker 1: run it how he so chooses. But my takeaway from
21:16
Speaker 1: it is that, first of all, both of our audiences
21:22
Speaker 1: are largely college football based, and if I were doing
21:27
Speaker 1: the interview, yes, I would have asked some very specific
21:29
Speaker 1: college football questions, But I also could not have ignored
21:37
Speaker 1: Epstein's stuff, the Obama thing, Birther issue, like I don't
21:42
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna get a chance to interview the
21:44
Speaker 1: president again, And that's just me. That's just me. I
21:49
Speaker 1: would have taken a different route. And now Josh's interview
21:53
Speaker 1: is important because people can watch it. For one critical reason,
21:58
Speaker 1: he wanted to keep bit exclusively to college football. But
22:03
Speaker 1: then when you watch the interview, it wasn't. It didn't
22:07
Speaker 1: even get to the college football part because it got
22:10
Speaker 1: cut short. And the reason why you can't watch that
22:14
Speaker 1: interview and think that, well, actually, I'll state it like this.
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Speaker 1: After watching the interview, I thought the exact same thing
22:26
Speaker 1: I thought before watching the interview is that I was
22:31
Speaker 1: not under the disillusionment that the President of the United
22:34
Speaker 1: States is going to save college football or that the
22:40
Speaker 1: President of the United States, Donald Trump, even understands the
22:44
Speaker 1: issues of college football. And truthfully, I don't even want
22:48
Speaker 1: him to be motivated to understand the issues of college football.
22:52
Speaker 1: And a lot of people foolishly believe that the president
22:55
Speaker 1: of the United States, regardless of who it is, this
22:58
Speaker 1: is not a this is a bipartisan thing, that he
23:02
Speaker 1: has magic knowledge about everything out in the world. He doesn't.
23:08
Speaker 1: He has knowledge in specific areas, just like everybody else does.
23:13
Speaker 1: A doctor has like a you know, a neurosurgeon has
23:20
Speaker 1: doctor you know, ideals and training and all of this stuff.
23:26
Speaker 1: But he's a specialist in this area. Everybody's a specialist
23:31
Speaker 1: in certain areas. I can talk NBA very well, NFL
23:36
Speaker 1: very well, baseball pretty good, but I'm an expert in
23:41
Speaker 1: college football. That's the difference is that, yes, I can
23:46
Speaker 1: talk about all these other things, but the fix for
23:49
Speaker 1: college football shouldn't be coming from the president. It's got
23:52
Speaker 1: to be coming from people below the president who actually
23:56
Speaker 1: fully are experts in it and understand how it works.
24:01
Speaker 1: That was the entire point you even had in the interview.
24:04
Speaker 1: He talked about He talked to Donald Trump, talked about
24:08
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, who's not coaching anymore, Irvin Meyer, who's not
24:11
Speaker 1: coaching anymore. He talked about the NFL kickoff rules, which
24:15
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with college football. He name dropped
24:19
Speaker 1: Gunner Stockton, who he had already spent time with that week,
24:23
Speaker 1: who's a backup quarterback. He's gonna have a great season
24:25
Speaker 1: this year. Then he brought up herschel Walker, who he
24:28
Speaker 1: endorsed for a losing senate bid in twenty twenty two.
24:32
Speaker 1: He even said that South Carolina was a good team.
24:35
Speaker 1: You know, I guess I thought they were too, because
24:38
Speaker 1: I picked up my US Football playoff bracket last year
24:40
Speaker 1: before they went four and eight. But to be fair
24:43
Speaker 1: to pay right, Josh said he originally had agreed to
24:47
Speaker 1: a thirty minute interview where he had planned to get
24:50
Speaker 1: specific about nil and things change after he agreed to
24:53
Speaker 1: the interview. But we can't be sure. But well, but
24:57
Speaker 1: we can be sure. The more sp Pacific that Josh
25:01
Speaker 1: Pate got, the less Trump was gonna be able to relate.
25:07
Speaker 1: It's just the truth. This ain't a knock on it.
25:09
Speaker 1: This is just a college football issue that we're talking about.
25:14
Speaker 1: And the question is do you even want do you
25:18
Speaker 1: even want your president knowing college football that deep? Now?
25:24
Speaker 1: It Now, it was fun to watch Obama do the
25:27
Speaker 1: March madness brackets, But would it actually have been a
25:31
Speaker 1: problem if he was good at it? Yes, the man
25:35
Speaker 1: got other things to worry about, Like, yes, he likes
25:38
Speaker 1: the sport, but I don't want him being too good
25:41
Speaker 1: at it. That means you ain't spending enough time doing
25:43
Speaker 1: the things that you need to do to help the
25:46
Speaker 1: country out. So I wasn't. I know a lot of
25:50
Speaker 1: people are gonna be mad at Josh Pate for doing it. Oh,
25:54
Speaker 1: he exposed what he really believes. He exposed all this stuff. Listen, man,
25:59
Speaker 1: I've talked about this on this show. My experience with
26:01
Speaker 1: Josh Pate, good dude, good human, trying to do the
26:05
Speaker 1: right things. He had a shot to interview the president.
26:11
Speaker 1: He said, he was like, my college football show didn't
26:13
Speaker 1: even exist five and a half years ago, and then
26:16
Speaker 1: I get a call from the President's office to be
26:19
Speaker 1: able to talk about it. And this is why it
26:21
Speaker 1: pays and is very important in life when you have
26:26
Speaker 1: a platform and you've built something really big. I was
26:29
Speaker 1: just talked to talking to my son about this. We
26:31
Speaker 1: went on a long bike ride, a lot of uphills
26:34
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and we came down very fast.
26:36
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a metaphor for life. You
26:40
Speaker 1: can go up very very fast. Well, you can go
26:42
Speaker 1: up very very far, but the road down is very
26:45
Speaker 1: very fast. And I'm not saying that Josh Pat's on
26:48
Speaker 1: a road down or anything, because he's continuing to make
26:50
Speaker 1: good content, but it just shows that. And I learned
26:55
Speaker 1: this when I was coming out in the draft because
26:58
Speaker 1: I was allegedly had character ses even though I had
27:00
Speaker 1: never been in trouble for the people that I was
27:02
Speaker 1: hanging out with, and I think that it was a
27:06
Speaker 1: very risky choice to do this in the current climate
27:11
Speaker 1: with all the rest of the stuff going on, and
27:13
Speaker 1: you have to make sure that you are not being
27:16
Speaker 1: used for anybody else's game. Not saying that that's what
27:19
Speaker 1: happened here. But these are all things that you have
27:22
Speaker 1: to evaluate because there's a drake lyric that is so true.
27:29
Speaker 1: How however long they choose to love you will never
27:34
Speaker 1: be your decision. That's the truth. But that's my that's
27:39
Speaker 1: my take on it. I would have done it. I
27:42
Speaker 1: would have just done it a little bit differently, and
27:45
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. But we got a lot
27:49
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28:42
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29:04
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Speaker 1: This time, this is the top ten coaches in all
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Speaker 1: of college football. Ralph, I'm releasing the list. Are you ready?
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Speaker 1: It is the question are you ready for this? Are
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Speaker 2: Yes? A little bit?
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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, here we go. Come into your screen right now, boom.
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Speaker 1: Top ten coaches and college football Number one, Kirby Smart,
30:05
Speaker 1: number two, Kurt Signetti, number three, Kyle Whittingham over there
30:10
Speaker 1: at Michigan, Number four, Ryan Day at Ohio State five,
30:14
Speaker 1: Dan Landing six, Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame, seven Mario
30:19
Speaker 1: Christobaul from Miami, eight Dabo Swingey from Clemson. Nine Jeff
30:24
Speaker 1: Brown from Louisville. I know that people are going to
30:26
Speaker 1: do a double take when they see that one and
30:28
Speaker 1: number ten, Lane Kiffin, what's your initial reaction to this
30:34
Speaker 1: fantastic list?
30:38
Speaker 2: Welcome to the party, Kurt Signetti. I guess that. I
30:41
Speaker 2: mean he he made it quick. Yeah, it's to the
30:46
Speaker 2: top of the mountain really quick.
30:49
Speaker 1: So it's hard to not put him on this list
30:54
Speaker 1: for with the quick, with what he did with Indiana,
30:58
Speaker 1: so like it would be different if he had just
31:02
Speaker 1: spent fifty million dollars in the in the portal and
31:05
Speaker 1: got every you know, blue chip guy out of the portal. Nah,
31:10
Speaker 1: he built a football team. He took the he took
31:13
Speaker 1: the bad News Bears, the the leftover, the land of
31:19
Speaker 1: Misfit Toys guys, and won a national championship with him
31:23
Speaker 1: And then when you think about it, he won at
31:26
Speaker 1: James Madison. They could have been in the College Football
31:28
Speaker 1: Playoff except for well, sorry, they could have went to
31:32
Speaker 1: a bowl game, but they weren't allowed to go to
31:34
Speaker 1: a bowl game.
31:38
Speaker 2: Do you think Ohio State fans could be any more
31:41
Speaker 2: furious with you than than if I mean, if you'd
31:46
Speaker 2: put Kyle Whittingham at number two, like the fact that
31:48
Speaker 2: it's the Michigan the m is sitting on top. Oh god, oh,
31:53
Speaker 2: he's just stepping on it. And Ryan Day as a
31:55
Speaker 2: Natty and we have Kurt Signetti up at number two
31:58
Speaker 2: because he he won a Naddy. So what's the thing
32:02
Speaker 2: in there? Because I'm a huge Kyle Whittingham fan, and
32:04
Speaker 2: I've also bought into some of the narrative that Ryan
32:08
Speaker 2: Day was blessed with quite a toolbox. But you and
32:13
Speaker 2: I probably both agree Ryan Day's best coaching year was
32:15
Speaker 2: actually last year, Yes, following up the National Championship. I
32:20
Speaker 2: thought he did an incredible job. But what is your
32:22
Speaker 2: justification for Kyle Whittingham above Ryan Day?
32:26
Speaker 1: So Kyle Whittingham is above Ryan Day because Kyle Whittingham
32:32
Speaker 1: navigated Utah, Like this is not a one stop situation.
32:37
Speaker 1: This is he was not born on third base. He
32:40
Speaker 1: was born in the what the Mountain West? Uh with Yeah?
32:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, the third West of the mountain or third base
32:49
Speaker 2: of the Mountain West. Maybe because he had urbans he
32:53
Speaker 2: was there before Urban, but he had Urbans squad that
32:56
Speaker 2: went undefeated with Alex Smith, and.
32:59
Speaker 1: Then he get Then he takes that team, they go
33:02
Speaker 1: to the Pac twelve, end up a force in the
33:05
Speaker 1: Pac twelve, and then they go to the Big ten.
33:08
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, then they go to the Big twelve and
33:10
Speaker 1: they're making noise in the Big twelve two like he
33:13
Speaker 1: has consistently. You look at what he's produced out of
33:19
Speaker 1: non blue chip high school recruits, the amount of first
33:23
Speaker 1: round picks, the amount of longtime NFL players, the amount
33:26
Speaker 1: of draft picks walk on to all of this stuff
33:29
Speaker 1: that he developed winning football games without blue chip talent,
33:36
Speaker 1: competing with the best of the best, you can't knock this.
33:41
Speaker 1: He's created one of the best home environments with the Musk,
33:44
Speaker 1: the mighty Utah student section, everything there. So yes, I
33:49
Speaker 1: do think that he's done a better job than Ryan
33:53
Speaker 1: Day because he's done more with less. Now, dude, they're
33:57
Speaker 1: just not gonna like the logo. If if there were
34:00
Speaker 1: a Utah logo, he would still be sitting there.
34:04
Speaker 2: So and what's funny is like any Ohio State fan
34:07
Speaker 2: that's accusing you of being a hater, Ryan Day is
34:09
Speaker 2: sitting on top of your coach, Dan Lanning, thank you,
34:14
Speaker 2: and they're one on one against each other. Right. The
34:16
Speaker 2: thing about Dan Lanning is every game that he's lost
34:19
Speaker 2: in the last three seasons has been to a national
34:21
Speaker 2: champion or national championship participant. So he been the third
34:26
Speaker 2: best guy for the last three years. I think that's deserving. Here,
34:31
Speaker 2: here's a question, because I know you're a big Dabo guy.
34:33
Speaker 2: We'll get to Jeff brom here in a second. Dabo
34:36
Speaker 2: obviously his resume, which he touts off the dome pretty well.
34:42
Speaker 2: Dabo's resume has him belonging on this list. But you
34:45
Speaker 2: look at the recruiting rankings, you're starting to see twenty twenty,
34:48
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one top five classes. But now they're back
34:52
Speaker 2: down in the range where they used to be in
34:54
Speaker 2: the mid twenties. But they're using the word a little
34:57
Speaker 2: bit too.
34:58
Speaker 1: That's where he's coming to.
35:01
Speaker 2: Back. So you're he's back the players he likes.
35:04
Speaker 1: Okay, well, see okay. So with Dabo Sweeney, his resume
35:11
Speaker 1: says that he should be top one or two. He's
35:13
Speaker 1: got two national championships, he's graduating like ninety six ninety
35:17
Speaker 1: eight percent of his players. They're constantly in the college
35:20
Speaker 1: football playoffs, They've won the ACC so many times, all
35:23
Speaker 1: of that stuff. The reason why he's down lower is
35:27
Speaker 1: because this past season, and then even the season before,
35:32
Speaker 1: you have wondered if he is adaptable to the current
35:37
Speaker 1: state of college football. I believe that he is going
35:40
Speaker 1: to that. He looked in the mirror this season, looked
35:43
Speaker 1: in the faces of all his coaches and was like,
35:46
Speaker 1: we gotta make some changes. So I got to make
35:49
Speaker 1: some changes. So hopefully we get a chance to interview
35:51
Speaker 1: Dabbo this offseason because I'm show go ask him that
35:54
Speaker 1: what's going to be different, because he's a we do
35:58
Speaker 1: what we do, but also think that the game is
36:02
Speaker 1: you know, if he doesn't have at least a nine
36:05
Speaker 1: win year this year, the game's passed. The game's moving
36:09
Speaker 1: in the wrong direction from him. He's going against traffic
36:12
Speaker 1: instead of win trafficking.
36:15
Speaker 2: So the Jeff brom thing, because that's what people are
36:18
Speaker 2: going to mention, I think when they look at maybe
36:19
Speaker 2: some omissions from your list. I'm a big believer that
36:23
Speaker 2: if you're just rolling eleven guys out there on offense
36:26
Speaker 2: and they're random and they meet their head coach on
36:28
Speaker 2: that same day, that Jeff brom is one of the
36:31
Speaker 2: best coaches in college football, and I think he's proven it.
36:36
Speaker 2: He's best coach Western Kentucky has ever had. Yep, he
36:41
Speaker 2: took Purdue to a bowl game for the first time,
36:44
Speaker 2: or he made them ranked for the first time, I
36:46
Speaker 2: believe in fourteen years back in twenty twenty one. And
36:50
Speaker 2: his run of quarterbacks the last four quarterbacks he's had,
36:54
Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell, Jack Plumber, Tyler Schuck, Miller, Moss. I thought
36:58
Speaker 2: he's done a fantastic job with I'm high on Lincoln
37:01
Speaker 2: Kynolds just because he's gonna be coached by Jeff brom
37:04
Speaker 2: and Jeff brom is at that point where he can
37:05
Speaker 2: kind of pick anybody explain why you have a guy
37:08
Speaker 2: like Jeff brom On here and not a national championship
37:12
Speaker 2: participant like Sonny Dyke's or at Kaylin de.
37:15
Speaker 1: Boor because Jeff Brown continuously does it and he's not
37:23
Speaker 1: at you know, he's not at a school where he is. Granted,
37:27
Speaker 1: Louisville does have resources, but granted they got to split
37:31
Speaker 1: some of these resources with basketball at Louisville, and he
37:35
Speaker 1: just continues to put out winners, dude, and He's done
37:38
Speaker 1: it at multiple stops, at wester Kentucky, at Purdue, at Louisville.
37:44
Speaker 1: Those things matter, and you can't sit up here and
37:47
Speaker 1: try because he is not playing for a national championship.
37:50
Speaker 1: That would be like omitting Kyle Whittingham from the list.
37:55
Speaker 1: And some of the mother dudes have had some duds.
37:59
Speaker 1: Sonny Dyke's got fired at Cow and that doesn't mean
38:02
Speaker 1: he's not a good coach. But Jeff Jeff brom May
38:06
Speaker 1: had them problems. And even Lincoln Lincoln Riley born on
38:10
Speaker 1: third base in Oklahoma trying to rebuild it at USC.
38:14
Speaker 1: He ain't got back to that level yet. Sorry, you know,
38:17
Speaker 1: And and this is part long longevity. It matters, and
38:22
Speaker 1: that's why a guy like Jeff Brohm is above Lane
38:25
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen. Despite Lane Kiffen's you know, at time success,
38:29
Speaker 1: he just continues to blow up things around him. So
38:32
Speaker 1: you know, that's why.
38:35
Speaker 2: I think it'll make for some interesting debate. I mean,
38:38
Speaker 2: I I think I could glean one thing just from
38:41
Speaker 2: knowing you. But the list also tells us not an
38:44
Speaker 2: air raid guy. You're not. You're not. As far as
38:48
Speaker 2: guys calling their their own offenses, I don't even think
38:51
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin is one of those. He brought his OC
38:54
Speaker 2: forrithathm here a great offensive system, incredibly player friendly system.
39:00
Speaker 2: But Lane is a guy who uses the portal he's
39:03
Speaker 2: he is adaptable. Lane is nothing if not adaptable. He'll
39:07
Speaker 2: make his own situation uncomfortable just.
39:11
Speaker 1: To show how much you can adapt, dude. And so
39:15
Speaker 1: some people are gonna be upset with Sark not being
39:19
Speaker 1: on here, Caitlin debor not being on on here, and
39:27
Speaker 1: Sark has gotten fired twice. Well, no, I'm sorry. Once
39:30
Speaker 1: he left Washington after a lot of seven and six,
39:34
Speaker 1: you know he was nicknamed seven wins Sark and then
39:38
Speaker 1: goes down to USC gets fired at USC. He's doing
39:41
Speaker 1: a good job at Texas, But where are we at
39:47
Speaker 1: right now? Like he's doing a good job, but.
39:50
Speaker 2: You does it surprise you that Steve Sarkisian actually has
39:54
Speaker 2: a better winning percentage at Texas than Lincoln Riley does
39:57
Speaker 2: at USC.
39:59
Speaker 1: No, that doesn't are surprised because I've been watching USC.
40:03
Speaker 1: But I would have thought that he would have gotten
40:09
Speaker 1: it going a little bit better at USC faster. But
40:13
Speaker 1: now I've figured out he had to learn how to
40:16
Speaker 1: build something he didn't know how to build anything. And
40:19
Speaker 1: the guy that we're and the two guys that we've
40:22
Speaker 1: kind of ignored on this list a little bit are
40:25
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning, Marcus Freeman, and Mario Christobal. Like these are
40:30
Speaker 1: the three coaches, the three up and coming coaches who
40:35
Speaker 1: we have to look at and say, who's going to
40:37
Speaker 1: be the next to win a national championship?
40:39
Speaker 2: Well, their top their top five coaches in America. If
40:41
Speaker 2: you just go by what you call the lifeblood of
40:44
Speaker 2: college football, which is recruiting, YEP, I trust if I
40:49
Speaker 2: had to go out and get one player those three
40:51
Speaker 2: names that you just give me, I trust them with
40:53
Speaker 2: my life. Marcus Freeman out recruited the ACC and Big
40:56
Speaker 2: twelve for five stars. Last year he has five. They
40:59
Speaker 2: have three. Comb Dan Lanning has kept Oregon UH relevant
41:05
Speaker 2: and turned them into what looks like an SEC roster
41:10
Speaker 2: up front. And then we got the King of the Castle,
41:12
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart. You got anything you want to say about
41:14
Speaker 2: the King and King is.
41:16
Speaker 1: The key, bro. How can you talk about any a
41:19
Speaker 1: list of the best coaches without putting Kirby Smart back
41:24
Speaker 1: to back national championships five and four years ago, and
41:28
Speaker 1: he's continuously in the playoffs only missed the playoffs one
41:32
Speaker 1: one year. There's nothing you can say about him and
41:34
Speaker 1: what he's doing. But Ralph, man, appreciate you coming in
41:39
Speaker 1: breaking it down for us, and you know there there's more,
41:42
Speaker 1: there's more talk about this, but yeah, appreciate to Ralph.
41:49
Speaker 1: All right, So now now back to this list, right,
41:53
Speaker 1: we got the top coaches in college football list. You
42:00
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42:03
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42:18
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, I was trying to think, and people look
42:24
Speaker 1: at you know, Oregon, They're like, oh, you talk so
42:26
Speaker 1: much about Oregon this and that. So Dan Lanning was
42:32
Speaker 1: the was the line that I used to determine who
42:37
Speaker 1: should be above and who should be below him on
42:41
Speaker 1: the list. If Dan Lanning had won last year's national championship,
42:45
Speaker 1: he would be number two on this list, probably because
42:49
Speaker 1: he only has one national championship. But I couldn't put
42:55
Speaker 1: Ryan Day below Dan Lanning. Why it's clearing. It's obvious
43:02
Speaker 1: he's got a national championship, he beat them up pretty
43:05
Speaker 1: bad last year, and they're both very heavily resourced, so
43:12
Speaker 1: it's not like it's an unfair fight. Like when Ryan
43:15
Speaker 1: Day got a chance to play against Kyle Whittingham in
43:18
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. That was not a fair fight. So
43:24
Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham can still be considered better than Ryan Day.
43:28
Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham, he's above Dan Lanning. This is sheerly longevity
43:35
Speaker 1: and development because Dan Lanning is sending an absurd amount
43:40
Speaker 1: of players to the NFL right now, more than Oregon
43:43
Speaker 1: has at any point in time in terms of the
43:46
Speaker 1: higher draft picks. So so I loo looked at that.
43:52
Speaker 1: I'm like, h and Kyle Whittingham's longevity wins out there
43:57
Speaker 1: because he's done it at Utah for so long. And
44:02
Speaker 1: I know that Notre Dame fans are gonna be looking
44:05
Speaker 1: at this list saying, wait, wait, wait, Marcus Freeman, you
44:09
Speaker 1: did Marcus Freeman like this? Nah, I'm a believer in
44:13
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman. Like there's Dan Lanny, Marcus Freeman, and then
44:18
Speaker 1: there are the coaches. Because these two guys are, honestly,
44:22
Speaker 1: I believe better tacticians than the people below them. Mario
44:30
Speaker 1: Chris Paul is obviously a very good coach, just played
44:33
Speaker 1: in the National Championship game. This is no disparagement to him,
44:36
Speaker 1: because if you're one of the top ten coaches, that
44:39
Speaker 1: makes you elite. So and if you're on the fringe
44:43
Speaker 1: of this list too, there's no disparagement. It just is
44:45
Speaker 1: what it is. Get your game up a little bit more,
44:47
Speaker 1: and it's college football's truth teller. I gotta give you
44:50
Speaker 1: the truth. And Lane Kiffin. Everybody knows how I feel
44:56
Speaker 1: about Lane. I think he's selfish. I think he's all
44:59
Speaker 1: these things. But you can and not deny what he's
45:01
Speaker 1: done at Old Miss building up that program, but what
45:05
Speaker 1: he's done in the transfer portal, what he's done at
45:08
Speaker 1: other stops. He's a highly successful coach. And he just
45:11
Speaker 1: got a team in Old Miss to the college football playoffs,
45:15
Speaker 1: even though that he abandoned them. So that's what it is.
45:19
Speaker 1: But now we got to get onto other things. And
45:22
Speaker 1: you guys like to share, subscribe, tell a friend about
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Speaker 1: the show, all right. Next thing we got to talk
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Speaker 1: about is Danny White, Tennessee athletic director, has finally somebody
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Speaker 1: has come out and said what I have been screaming
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Speaker 1: from the top of my lungs about for months and
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Speaker 1: even years about the fix for college football and who
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Speaker 1: is not in on it and who really wants to
45:51
Speaker 1: be in on it? So and by that I mean this,
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Speaker 1: So Danny White, he came out and responded to the
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Speaker 1: NCAA president Charlie Baker. He was asked about collective bargaining
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Speaker 1: how to fix college football, and Charlie Baker's response was, well,
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Speaker 1: we could maybe have collective bargaining, but you know, so
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Speaker 1: far away from the players don't really want it. Right
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Speaker 1: as that as that meme goes bullshit, That's what exactly
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Speaker 1: what it is. It is a bunch of crapola. Because
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Speaker 1: and Danny White actually went on to talk about this extensively,
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Speaker 1: because it doesn't make sense why players wouldn't want collective bargaining.
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Speaker 1: It makes all the sense in the world, and because
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Speaker 1: it is the only way to fix things. Collective bargaining
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Speaker 1: will allow the players to negotiate with one entity, not
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Speaker 1: the SEC, not the Big Ten, not the nc DOUBLEA.
46:54
Speaker 1: And that's why they don't want it. That's why they
46:57
Speaker 1: don't want it. Because the MLB, NBA, NHL, NFL all
47:03
Speaker 1: have unions for the players, and they negotiate with the
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Speaker 1: league about the rules that they play under. They negotiate
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Speaker 1: the salary cap, how it's calculated, how you know, what
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Speaker 1: happens with healthcare, what happens with when players get suspended,
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Speaker 1: who has trouble or the or the organizations get caught
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Speaker 1: cheating like the Patriots did, or something who punishes them.
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Speaker 1: And it creates all the rules of eligibility, when you
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Speaker 1: can sign players, when you can transfer, all of these things,
47:38
Speaker 1: that's what college football needs. Then you won't have these
47:42
Speaker 1: silly lawsuits all over the place about one off circumstances.
47:47
Speaker 1: The rules will be the rules, and you won't have
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Speaker 1: a player like Darien Mensa leaving Duke under contract to
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Speaker 1: go to Miami unless there's a buyout in there. There
47:58
Speaker 1: will be parameters around all of these things. The reason
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Speaker 1: why the big ten sec ACC and the NCAA don't
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Speaker 1: want it, it's because they lose power because then whoever's
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Speaker 1: above them, the College Sports Commission, whatever that entity is
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Speaker 1: that they're negotiating with, they then take all the power
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Speaker 1: and those are the people that so then you will
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Speaker 1: have negotiating rules about the college football playoff when the
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Speaker 1: season has to start and finish of nil. The regulations
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Speaker 1: surrounding and this will be public information, which will then
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Speaker 1: control the market. And then you won't have lear Field
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Speaker 1: and Adidas and all these other companies circumventing the salary cap,
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Speaker 1: and that will create the parody that college football needs.
48:48
Speaker 1: But everybody will then have hope. Rutgers will have the
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Speaker 1: same hope as Indiana, who overcame the mountaintop as the
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Speaker 1: most losing college football program of all time to become
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Speaker 1: national champions. That's what you need. So you had Danny White,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna quote what he said. He said, first,
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Speaker 1: you don't need to get a federal law pass to
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Speaker 1: build a collective bargaining structure to save college sports. It's
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Speaker 1: actually the only solution, only solution that we have that
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Speaker 1: doesn't involve asking Congress to give us a pass on
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Speaker 1: the Sherman Acts, which is not going to happen, which
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Speaker 1: we talked about earlier with the Josh Payton situation. Interviewing
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Speaker 1: the President Trump, the government's not coming to save you,
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Speaker 1: and they can't getting a blanket antitrust exemption so the
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Speaker 1: NCAA can make arbitrary rules without negotiating with anybody that's
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Speaker 1: never going to hold up in court anyway. That's why
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Speaker 1: it's the only way. And then Danny White goes on second,
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Speaker 1: nobody has said collective bargaining would be simple. Exactly, there
49:55
Speaker 1: are no simple solutions to this problem. Clearly, asking Congress
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Speaker 1: to save us has not proven to be a simple solution.
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Speaker 1: And then third, not pursuing all avenues to solve our
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Speaker 1: dysfunctional system is negligent a man, Danny White. And then
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Speaker 1: you can actually have enforcement. That's the issue as well.
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Speaker 1: There is no enforcement, so people are just like, we'll
50:22
Speaker 1: do what we want to do. Who's gonna say otherwise,
50:25
Speaker 1: who's gonna investigate it? Nobody's gonna tell and nobody is
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Speaker 1: there to punish us. We got to always pay attention
50:35
Speaker 1: to the money and who doesn't want things to happen,
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Speaker 1: And it is clear who doesn't want collective bargaining. Who
50:43
Speaker 1: doesn't want that? It is the powers that be because
50:45
Speaker 1: they want to remain in power. This is no different
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Speaker 1: than what goes on in politics and anything else. This
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Speaker 1: is a political issue, of political sports issue, and the
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Speaker 1: resolution it is obvious, however, not simple to implement because
51:01
Speaker 1: obviously there's what happens with the with jucos. How are
51:06
Speaker 1: those going to be calculated? Well, if you want to
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Speaker 1: play Division one football, you have to sign on to
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Speaker 1: be a part of this union, and that's it. And
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Speaker 1: the rules are stated, so you either fight it beforehand
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Speaker 1: or you sign it and then you play under whatever
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Speaker 1: the rules are. And yes, you may need a separate
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Speaker 1: cbad for Division two and Division three, which operate under
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Speaker 1: different scholarship rules fcs. All of that. Yes, there there
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Speaker 1: There's not a simple solution, but there is. But like
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Speaker 1: Danny White said, it is negligent not to do that.
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Speaker 1: And there have been a lot of people who have
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Speaker 1: pushed back on me very They're like, George, you can't
51:53
Speaker 1: do collective bargaining. It's not I'm not the only one
51:56
Speaker 1: telling you now. You have a bunch of smart people
51:59
Speaker 1: out in the world telling you that this is the
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Speaker 1: only option forward. I just so happened to be the
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Speaker 1: first one to tell you because I sit in with
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Speaker 1: head coaches, I sit in with general managers, I sit
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Speaker 1: in with the business people out in the world. I'm
52:13
Speaker 1: a part of the NFL Players Association. I understand how
52:16
Speaker 1: all of this works. But you know, or you can
52:20
Speaker 1: keep trying to do it your way and it ain't
52:22
Speaker 1: gonna work. Just the facts. Now, before we get out here, man,
52:27
Speaker 1: I gotta talk to you about the best thing that
52:30
Speaker 1: I saw on these on Bill Gates's Internet is man
52:37
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart and Mario chryst Ball going back and forth
52:44
Speaker 1: at the Steve Spurrier event. I believe it was in Gainesville.
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Speaker 1: Bottle this up. Put it on television. The top ten
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Speaker 1: coaches getting up there and roasting each other. This was
52:59
Speaker 1: absolutely awesome and I honestly it will warm your heart
53:03
Speaker 1: and if you're a college football fan, it will just
53:05
Speaker 1: make you happy to all get out. And So here's
53:08
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart up there on the microphone. Because when I
53:12
Speaker 1: first saw it, I was like dang nagging at each
53:14
Speaker 1: other pretty hard. But then Mario Christobaul were rebuttals and
53:18
Speaker 1: jock shots at John Some are all My god. I
53:21
Speaker 1: wish Dan Lenny was there. I wanted Ryan Day to
53:24
Speaker 1: be there. I wanted, oh my gosh, I wanted all
53:27
Speaker 1: of them there. That's all they deserve it.
53:31
Speaker 3: Marigo's right behind him, and if it had been up
53:33
Speaker 3: to him, he would have played a lot more than
53:35
Speaker 3: I Almighty because.
53:38
Speaker 1: It came down to us.
53:39
Speaker 3: Too, So I don't like you being real close to
53:41
Speaker 3: Mario right now. You know what I'm saying, He still
53:45
Speaker 3: got another year left. That'll be careful around Mario. Sometimes
53:49
Speaker 3: it'll take your players, if you know what I mean.
53:58
Speaker 1: Now, I'm just kidding, all right.
54:02
Speaker 3: I was talking to Mortal earlier and he came up
54:03
Speaker 3: to me and he gave me a Lane Tiffin joke,
54:05
Speaker 3: and he he and Lane are very similar in a
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Speaker 3: lot of ways.
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Speaker 1: They're like best friends. And he came up to me,
54:09
Speaker 1: He's like, you want to start getting some protein shakes.
54:11
Speaker 1: You've had too many carbs.
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Speaker 3: And I said, well, you probably want to visit time
54:15
Speaker 3: with Steve's Perrier because he won more Confence Championship to
54:17
Speaker 3: do than you have.
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Speaker 2: In my end. He so coach Coach.
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Speaker 1: Parrier and him got a they got a visit song.
54:26
Speaker 2: I don't know why you're over here laughing too.
54:28
Speaker 1: Now it is. I'll tell you what the first thing is.
54:34
Speaker 3: It's it's a great piece right there to watch with
54:37
Speaker 3: what it'll play like Carson.
54:38
Speaker 2: Becker doing great coaching, you know.
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Speaker 1: What I mean.
54:46
Speaker 2: Don't let's get him up the party song, Let's come out, Let's.
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Speaker 3: Get up coats, and we want to have an island.
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Speaker 1: Okay, if that ain't fun, if that ain't what college
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Speaker 1: football is about. Man, these dudes are making ten million
55:14
Speaker 1: dollars or more age and they can take shots at
55:18
Speaker 1: each other, so they should be able to take it. Man,
55:20
Speaker 1: bottle this up and put it on television. Like imagine
55:23
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, coaches have this thing
55:25
Speaker 1: and they sit around roast each other everything. That would
55:29
Speaker 1: be excellent content. Maybe I should produce it. But you guys, though, Man,
55:37
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys joining the show. Make sure you
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