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Erin of Far From Eden is Pro MGTOW | Fireside Chat 260 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Brian and this is the fireside chat where we
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  Speaker 1: try to have good conversations with interesting people. Today I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to be speaking with Aaron. Aaron has a YouTube
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  Speaker 1: channel called Far from Eden. I'm always saying east of Eden,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't know why my brain goes there, but
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  Speaker 1: I know it's far from Eden. Yeah, and you are
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  Speaker 1: a well kind of a rare bird. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: know some of those rare birds, but you're one of
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  Speaker 1: the rare birds. It's actually supports migtaw and you're obviously
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  Speaker 1: very the critical of modernity and feminism and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: So welcome to the show erin, thanks for.
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  Speaker 2: Coming, Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and apparently we have some crossover in our you know,
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  Speaker 1: in our audiences, So we have some people that watch
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  Speaker 1: us and also are subscribed to you, so and they
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  Speaker 1: may be familiar with you. And also you talked recently
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  Speaker 1: to someone who's an old friend of the channel, Paul
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  Speaker 1: Elam if you remember cart you have a voice for
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  Speaker 1: men now of x Y Crew. So yeah, so it's
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  Speaker 1: good to have you. So I'm noticing more and more
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  Speaker 1: people are talking about these things. But they're not quite
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  Speaker 1: as far along on this path as you are, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think. So why don't you start by telling me
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  Speaker 1: how you got involved with this creating content?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was friends with a man and like, I
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  Speaker 2: just met him, you know, as you do in life,
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  Speaker 2: meet a person, gets talking with them, and he said
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  Speaker 2: something about he had been married before, et cetera. And
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  Speaker 2: he went to his church, you know, friends, and he
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  Speaker 2: was trying to express to them that she was abusive,
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  Speaker 2: and they told him a man can't be abused. And
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  Speaker 2: when he told me that, I was just it hit me.
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  Speaker 2: I think people who get red pilled. Everybody gets red
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  Speaker 2: piled a different way. And this was the thing that
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  Speaker 2: broke the brainwashing, and I suddenly could see through it,
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  Speaker 2: and I started to see not just that but my
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  Speaker 2: life in retrospect. So I saw my parents' marriage and
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  Speaker 2: my whole growing up and the way my mother treated
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  Speaker 2: my father, and that whole dynamic, and suddenly I had
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  Speaker 2: a deeper understanding for what he had been through and
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  Speaker 2: what that experience must have been like for him. And
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  Speaker 2: then I could just see more clearly and nothing I
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  Speaker 2: ever And I was encouraged by others to watch The
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  Speaker 2: Red Pill by Cassie j I started learning about MiG
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  Speaker 2: Tao and at first I thought, oh, and I'm so
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  Speaker 2: embarrassed to admit that I had this opinion at one time.
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  Speaker 2: But I thought, oh, that's just the other side of feminism.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the opposite of feminism. They just hate women.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said, I'm so embarrassed with that because
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  Speaker 2: obviously I was completely wrong because that is not what
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  Speaker 2: Magtao is at all. But that is what I call
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  Speaker 2: the overlords what have you believe it is, because then
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  Speaker 2: they can just make it an evil hate group rather
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  Speaker 2: than listening to what it is. And I think the
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  Speaker 2: reason they don't listen to what it is is because
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  Speaker 2: then they'd have to criticize women, and we're not allowed
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  Speaker 2: to do that. So that was the beginning of my journey,
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  Speaker 2: and that was about nine years ago and it just
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  Speaker 2: hasn't stopped. So that's how it became program.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you said that you you heard this, uh, this
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  Speaker 1: anecdote about a friend of yours who was a man
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  Speaker 1: who was experiencing abuse, So like, have you ever heard
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  Speaker 1: anything like that before? Because this was the thing that
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  Speaker 1: sort of clicked, So what do you think, like for example,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to assume your age, but were you
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  Speaker 1: alive or around when Loreina Bobbitt Yes, cut off her
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  Speaker 1: man's penis.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So did you then? What did you think that that
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  Speaker 1: was absolutely monstrous? Or and I'm not trying to put
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  Speaker 1: you on the spot, but I think that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, So what did you like? What like
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  Speaker 1: things like that when you hear about hen peck husbands
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  Speaker 1: or husbands that you know, like this sort of joke
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  Speaker 1: about women, you know, beating their husbands with rolling pins
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  Speaker 1: and things like that, did you what did you think
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  Speaker 1: of that before you got red pilled?
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  Speaker 2: That'stastic question. I really hadn't. I really hadn't remembered Lorraina
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  Speaker 2: Bobbitt in forever. But that's a really good one to
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  Speaker 2: think of, because there were so many jokes at the
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  Speaker 2: time and people laughing about this that like it was funny,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think I was. And I would tell
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  Speaker 2: you if I was, Like I'm an open book. I
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  Speaker 2: for example, I will be the first to be like
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  Speaker 2: I voted for Obama two times, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: So like you could admit, like, all right, I used
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  Speaker 2: to be really blue piled with everything. But anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't laugh about it. I didn't make jokes about it,
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  Speaker 2: but I did not understand, which is so pathetic how
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  Speaker 2: horrific it was. And the thing is is like if
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  Speaker 2: that if a woman had been maimed, everybody would have
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  Speaker 2: reacted completely.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you'd have to wear a ribbon and like
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  Speaker 1: you know, like you make get into a holiday and
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  Speaker 1: they'd raise billions of dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, there would have been marches and everything, and
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  Speaker 2: that was not what it was like them.
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  Speaker 1: God, yeah, that's the thing, like, you know, because what
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering about is, you know, we we see this.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of like a casual missonry, and it's so
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  Speaker 1: ubiquitous that most people they kind of they normalize it
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  Speaker 1: in their mind and they don't really make a big
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  Speaker 1: deal of it, which is why I don't really blame
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  Speaker 1: people when when they come around and I'm like, well, look,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's it was so common that we didn't
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  Speaker 1: really think about it. Yes, but there for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you were head was in the right space at
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  Speaker 1: the time you heard this, and that's what changed for you. So, like,
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  Speaker 1: how did you learn about Cassie J's documentary because like,
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  Speaker 1: we were very involved with helping her, you know, get
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  Speaker 1: it out, and I didn't think that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people got to see it.
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  Speaker 2: So men, same men, Ah, okay, because it was such
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  Speaker 2: a break through. He was like, okay, you need to
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  Speaker 2: watch the Red Pill. And I was like, well, what's
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  Speaker 2: the red Pill? And he's like, just watch it? So
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  Speaker 2: I did. But I only answer your question, why then
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  Speaker 2: was it able to permeate the uh, the propaganda and
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  Speaker 2: you know that I'd been brainwashed with and this is
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  Speaker 2: this is brutal, but because my mom had died. Mmmm.
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  Speaker 2: And there I will refer back and this is not
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  Speaker 2: a door. I don't identify this with this directly. But
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  Speaker 2: there was a former child actress. I can never remember
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  Speaker 2: her name, but she wrote a book called I'm Glad
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  Speaker 2: my Mom Died.
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  Speaker 1: I know who you're talking about. I don't know her name,
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  Speaker 1: but she was on Nickelodeon and she was on a
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  Speaker 1: show called I Carley. That's right, yes, and I can't
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  Speaker 1: but I can't remember her name. I've met somebody in
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  Speaker 1: the chat knows.
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  Speaker 2: I can see you, right, And she said I'm Glad
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  Speaker 2: my mom died. That was the name in her book
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  Speaker 2: and it sounds awful, but yeah, I think that was
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  Speaker 2: one of the things that I love my mom dearly.
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  Speaker 2: I do. However, I know who she is, I know
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  Speaker 2: how she raised me, and I know how she treated
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  Speaker 2: my father, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So the woman, the actress is, her name is Jeanette mccurty, okay,
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  Speaker 1: or Janet mccurty. It's either Janet mccurty or Janet mccurty's name.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that is kind of the thing, like I
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  Speaker 2: think that must have put a crack in it. And
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  Speaker 2: then I heard that in it just you know, because
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  Speaker 2: you here when you're when I think when the parent
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  Speaker 2: that kind of held up these falsehoods and this idea
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  Speaker 2: that you don't want to challenge when that person, when
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  Speaker 2: that parent dies, Suddenly there's something in you that's allowed
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  Speaker 2: to think differently. And it wasn't even a conscious thing
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  Speaker 2: for me, but it started to happen.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why I can see that able to
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  Speaker 1: wake up. Yeah, you know, we talk a lot in
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  Speaker 1: our sort of like mainstream discourse about people with daddy
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  Speaker 1: issues or you know, father abuse things like that, but
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  Speaker 1: we don't really talk a lot about mommy issues. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they exist, but usually when we do talk about it,
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  Speaker 1: it's referring to men. You know, men men maybe that
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  Speaker 1: are like, you know, failure to launch, men that are
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  Speaker 1: like overly coddled by their mothers or or what we
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  Speaker 1: call the devouring mother, you know, which we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: like archetypes, because I know that one of the things,
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  Speaker 1: one of the focuses of your channel is actually stories,
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  Speaker 1: and I really think that's cool because those are very
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  Speaker 1: important things that people often overlook. So, without getting too personal,
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  Speaker 1: would you say you had some mommy issues?
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  Speaker 2: Then? Yes, we had basically a codependent relationship, and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that was born out of my diagnosis diagnosis
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  Speaker 2: with multiple sclerosis when I was twenty two, because it
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  Speaker 2: was fairly aggressive and I needed a lot of help
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  Speaker 2: from her, and so I ended up she had divorce
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  Speaker 2: from my dad, and my fiance broke up with me.
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  Speaker 2: I was twenty two, and I said, after about a
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  Speaker 2: year of staying with my dad, I said, hey, why
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  Speaker 2: don't we move in together mom, and you can help
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  Speaker 2: me and we'll you know, be roommates and stuff and
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  Speaker 2: we'll both do the horse business. I know I'm dropping
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  Speaker 2: a lot of info on you, pick apart, whatever you'd
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  Speaker 2: like after this, and we'll do that. And I lived
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  Speaker 2: with her, worked with her all those sorts of things
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  Speaker 2: until she past when I was thirty seven. Math is
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  Speaker 2: not my strong suit.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you were ill and your mother had to support you.
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  Speaker 1: And did that make her like resentful of you?
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  Speaker 2: Then?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: I think. Do you know how you know when women
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  Speaker 2: like after they hit the wall and get more sort
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  Speaker 2: of at the same time, and then suddenly they're like,
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  Speaker 2: how do I reinvent myself? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes you see women do this when they're like
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  Speaker 2: thirty six, thirty seven and they have a baby, Like
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  Speaker 2: I'm a Getty movie roles and I'm hitting the wall
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  Speaker 2: and nobody likes me because I abuse Johnny Depp. So
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  Speaker 2: guess what, I have a baby, you know. And that's
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  Speaker 2: sort of a reinvention of themselves. And I think it
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  Speaker 2: gave her purpose and it also had She had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of actually talking about this the other day with somebody.
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  Speaker 2: She had a lot of involvement then horses and my students.
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  Speaker 2: She became bar she became barn mom. All my students
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  Speaker 2: called her mom, and and so, like I said, it
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  Speaker 2: was very codependent and I relied on her to help
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  Speaker 2: me physically, help me with, you know, doing things around
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  Speaker 2: the house. I used to work in the barn until
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't walk anymore. And so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know when when men go through that,
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  Speaker 1: they just buy themselves a hot rod er, try to
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  Speaker 1: learn guitar, so.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, yeah, what they used to life crisis.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, that's yeah. So someone in the chat
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  Speaker 1: is asking, so I'm as well, like, let you say
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  Speaker 1: this before you can keep going. What it is a
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  Speaker 1: summary of what your channel is about.
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  Speaker 2: Okay? Well, it starts it out as anti feminism, because
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  Speaker 2: it has followed pretty much the you know, my mindset
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  Speaker 2: and my position as it's grown. So it started out
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  Speaker 2: as anti feminism and quickly became pro men's rights. But
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, I happen to be Christian, but
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  Speaker 2: I also am not pro what the church says. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: especially because they want they don't like men, they don't
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  Speaker 2: like masculinity. They tell all the men get government married
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  Speaker 2: and if you really love her, you'll sign the contract.
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  Speaker 2: And I disagree with all of that.
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  Speaker 1: I think that is Christian personally, but.
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  Speaker 2: I don't what are they doing with the government. It's
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  Speaker 2: not the government's business at all, and the laws, the
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  Speaker 2: way they treat marriage, it's it's awful they've got men
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  Speaker 2: in a So I don't really fit in with anyone
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  Speaker 2: because so that's the channel I'm very I call myself
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  Speaker 2: the little house on the prairie lady. I look at
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  Speaker 2: it like so many people think nineteen fifties was the ideal. No,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't. Not if you were a man. Nineteen fifties
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  Speaker 2: was soft life for women. It absolutely was not the
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  Speaker 2: ideal at all. I don't call that traditional. I go
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  Speaker 2: back to eighteen fifty I am so like era, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you still run into chivalry and those sorts of things.
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  Speaker 2: So as I, you know, sort of go back in
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  Speaker 2: history looking at the way men have been treated, I
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  Speaker 2: keep going further and further back, you know, to try
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  Speaker 2: to get where men were actually respected and treated like
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  Speaker 2: human beings and not disposable. I think that men and
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  Speaker 2: should Where I differ from men's rights movement exactly is
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of them think that it's men should
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  Speaker 2: not automatically be expected to protect and provide. And I
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  Speaker 2: agree with that. However, the reason I don't think in
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  Speaker 2: this day and age they should be expected to protect
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  Speaker 2: and provide is because nothing's expected of women. And rather
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  Speaker 2: than bring down responsibilities of men, I think women should
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  Speaker 2: have responsibilities, duties and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and virtues to pursue and yeah, because if you
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  Speaker 1: just took away you know, men's like if you just
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  Speaker 1: try to eliminate men's role, liberate them, as the feminists
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  Speaker 1: like to call it, which is what a lot of
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  Speaker 1: feminists promote when it comes to man, Well, we want
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  Speaker 1: them liberated too. Well, then all you have is a
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  Speaker 1: complete population of people who can't do anything except submit
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  Speaker 1: to a conquering civilization that is, you know, like that
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  Speaker 1: isn't doing that to their men and women? So like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because women aren't going to defend men and like they
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to anyway, So like what, there's no
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  Speaker 1: point in us asking that. But they can do something else,
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  Speaker 1: like they have a you know, some other duties, which
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  Speaker 1: is really what this comes down to, that they should
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  Speaker 1: be fulfilling. But we have, we have almost completely liberated
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  Speaker 1: women to the point where they're you know, there are
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  Speaker 1: on all kinds of medication to stay sane because they
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  Speaker 1: don't have a purpose.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, that's exactly right. If we take away.
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  Speaker 2: If we liberate men from duties and responsibilities, then we
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  Speaker 2: have a full society. And we're getting there. You can
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  Speaker 2: see it now. We're getting there to where nobody has
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  Speaker 2: any purpose, nobody has any duties and response. We do
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  Speaker 2: better as humans when we have duties and responsibilities to
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  Speaker 2: each other.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, it's turning into the mouse utopia. I
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  Speaker 1: mean you're seeing it. Like I saw an ad on
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube for men's like skin cream and it was
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  Speaker 1: like foundation and makeup. And it wasn't like you know
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was he was a straight guy and
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  Speaker 1: he had like a nail polish and and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is something about this is really wrong,
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  Speaker 1: Like this is really abnormal, right, And.
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  Speaker 2: It is because it's the Bapha met. It is the
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  Speaker 2: merging of male and female. And then you have Baha Met,
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  Speaker 2: which is the Satanic the people in.
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  Speaker 1: The chat, the trans Satanic trans god. These guys know
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  Speaker 1: who baa.
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  Speaker 2: It is exactly, and that's where we're going. And if
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  Speaker 2: you read Rachel Wilson's book Occult Feminism, it's great. And
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  Speaker 2: it has always been that somebody's at my door, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna ignore that. That's my living room welcome. So that
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  Speaker 2: is feminism has always been rooted in that people You'll
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  Speaker 2: hear women and men all the time be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I think feminism has just gone too far with third
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  Speaker 2: wave and fourth wave feminism. In Milicook, it was a
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  Speaker 2: whole title wave and the first wave was bad to
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  Speaker 2: who you're just indoctrinated to think it wasn't. So Also,
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  Speaker 2: to further answer the question about what's my channel about, well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to get anybody demonetized or pull their
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  Speaker 2: channel down, but you know, around nineteen twenty, I think
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  Speaker 2: we made a real big mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I think I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And like that's another thing about your channel that I
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  Speaker 1: find fascinating because well, I mean, obviously I agree with it,
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  Speaker 1: but very few people it takes a lot of courage
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  Speaker 1: to go there, right, and I mean I've we've done
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  Speaker 1: it here. But I think that this is the reason
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  Speaker 1: why everybody goes well, I think the first wave, well
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  Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties, well, patriarch he did exist at
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  Speaker 1: this point in time, right or whatever. And still there
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  Speaker 1: are people that have that cope and it's like you're
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  Speaker 1: not going to make any change at all until you
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  Speaker 1: start recognizing the lie we're living in is very old,
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  Speaker 1: and it goes all the way back, right.
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  Speaker 2: Well true, Oh my gosh, that's so true. People don't
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  Speaker 2: realize how far back it goes, but of course it does,
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  Speaker 2: because that's how they get you. They do little changes,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit out of time, a little bit out
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  Speaker 2: of time. It's the camel's nose in the tent. It's
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  Speaker 2: that whole thing where the camel's noses in the tent.
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  Speaker 2: You're okay, it's all right, that's his nose. Before you
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  Speaker 2: know it, holding camel's in your tent and you're like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: this is the problem. You're like, no, the problem is
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  Speaker 2: when he stuck his nose in, and that was all
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  Speaker 2: the way along. And it's not anti woman, it is not.
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  Speaker 2: I get accused of hating women, and I don't. I
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  Speaker 2: happen to be one, And it's not internal misogyny or
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  Speaker 2: what have you. I just think that we all have
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: our roles, and I think they if anybody hates women,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: it's them, because I'm the one saying let's be who
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: we are.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Let's well, you can't hate one sex and not have
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: that impact the other sex.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Anyways, exactly exactly. M you have to understand that we're all,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: you know, best suited for something. And I happen to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: think that the woman's real role, what we were intended for,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: is a wonderful and beautiful thing. It's the people who
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: say you shouldn't do that role that rolls beneath you.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: They're the ones that have the problem with women because
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: they have the problem with the women's role. They're the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: ones that think it's beneath the man because they're the
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: ones that want to be men. They're the ones that
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: want to compete with men and be men. And I'm like, well,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: if you want to be men, you obviously don't value women.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, although there is something weird about that because they don't.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: They don't really They say they want to be men,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: but they don't really know what it is to be
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a man. They only see what they think are benefits,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: like oh, yeah, for example, you know, they glorify men
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: who come back from war and get a bunch of medals,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: for example, and they'll say, oh, women should be in
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the military, because I also think that they should be
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: getting medals. But what they don't It's like they don't
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: realize that most of those men come back in boxes.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, and men are not looking forward to
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: doing that, like you know, it's it's always like.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: The end result. They want what they think the glory is.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: They have no idea the cost, They have no idea.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: They can't imagine they want to be. You know, we
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: can't forget the firefighters in southern California just a little
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: bit back. I'm like, it looks firefighter Barbie to.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Me is, oh, yeah, for sure, it's cosplay.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And all the female cops that are, you know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: getting disarmed accidentally mistaking their their you know, taser for
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the other one. You're like, excuse me, that is not
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I don't need to go and try to be in
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: those roles that where men are better suited to prove
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that I'm good enough because I'm a woman and I'm
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: going to be a woman, and that's the thing. And
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: these women just completely ignore what we're suited for. They
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: want to say they're strong and independent, and I say, oh, yeah,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: well you're not strong enough be loyal, are you. You're
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: not strong enough to actually submit to your husband's authority
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and trust him. That takes strength. It's a quiet strength.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: It's a very different strength. Than going off to war.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: But how doubt when your husband's in the military, you
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: don't mess around while he's gone. How about you don't
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: alienate the children and move while he's overseas? Love that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you know, we're clearly we're not strong enough to not
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: file for divorce seventy percent of the time or eighty
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: or ninety percent of the time, depending on the statistic.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a rumble, ran, I'm gonna read out
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: really quick. Thank you to oh I see he gave
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: us a dollar and said I will check this out later.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: But here's a small rumbling dono, So thank you for that. Okay,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So back to the stuff you've been doing on your channel.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: So how would you describe your audience? Are they mostly men?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I assume they are. Do you have any women in there?
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Do you get any feedback from women?
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Especially recently? Now it's not a lot, but recently we've
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: had some women comment. I started doing some lives and
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I think, for whatever reason, that's reaching out to women more.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I think it broadens the audience something. But we have
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: a few women, and I think if women are commenting,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: there must be a few more. Women are getting more
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and more curious and supportive of a woman's traditional role.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I think than they have been in decades. I don't
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: have my hopes up for a turnaround. I think we're
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: too far gone for that, and I definitely don't. I
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: still don't think it's safe for men to date, marry
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: anything like that. I don't think it's safe, but I
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: know that there are still men out there who are
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: held bent on doing it. But the women are starting
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: to question what they've been told. And honestly, let's face it,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: there's more of this on TikTok. There's more of this
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: on other social media platforms also. Sorry to go on
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a little mini, but the men are speaking up gen
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Z men. There are a lot of gen Z men
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: who are absolutely based and they don't want these three
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: H fours. They're not having it there And on shows
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: like the Whatever Podcasts and other shows like that, men
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: are speaking up about look, I don't want to check
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: with a high body count, okay, And women are hearing it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: And even though they'll say, I don't need to please man,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah, that's not true. That is not women's nature.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: We tend to do what it is we think, well,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: we'll get attention from men. What men will like, that's
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: what we do, and the women are paying attention now
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and they're realizing, oh, everybody thinks that's gross. So I
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: don't want to be that, especially the you know, I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: think the fifteen sixteen seventeen year olds, the ones that
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: aren't ruined yet, they're looking and paying attention and they're like, well,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: somebody like Ballerina bart Ballerina Barbie, that.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Is Vallerina Ranch Mallerina is that I do Ana farms farm.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Like her, getting like millions of followers whom are paying
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: attention to that. And I don't think it's the best thing,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: like oh, she's got all these followers, but that is
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: how you get to women's brains, and they start.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I was just going to say, women are more susceptible
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: to peer pressure passively, right, So they see the tide
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: going a certain way, they're more likely to go along
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: with it. And it's not even really a logical decision,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: like they're not thinking it through and saying, oh, well
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: this makes sense because it's right. It's like, oh, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: don't want to be in the out group. Oh what,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: oh no, hold on a second, I'm getting a notice
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: about my zoom call, potentially ending am I in the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: wrong account. It's super weird. Yeah, in ten minutes, so
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: we'll we'll go and then I'll just call you right
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: back at that happened. So okay, So yeah, I'm sorry
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I was logged in Honeybadger radio account. But it looks like,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: let me just tell Alison that she needs to like
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: pay the bill. Oh god, I just somebody at your door.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Not anymore?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, all right, all right, okay, So
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I just I just told her to pay that bill.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: So women, I tell you, Okay, but yeah, you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: speaking of what's going on with your channel and women
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that are starting to listen, I know that everybody else
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: has seen this. I don't know if you've seen this,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: but this like after the last election, it was but
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: while that was going on leading up to that, the
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: mainstream media was panicking because they were looking at data
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: that suggested that gen Z men were are not going
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it's not even that they were going far right, they're
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: were moderately moderately right, but that the women were going
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: far far left. Yes, And obviously this last election was
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: essentially men versus women. That was how it was framed
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that was the way that they did it, right, So, yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I think, well, first of all, it was very interesting
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: politically socially, and you did you had that, you had
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the women definitely going harder to the left. I mean
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: they had uh, you know, I don't want to I'm
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: trying not to demonetize your channel, but they had a
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: clinic like a mobile clinic at the We're.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Not yeah, yeah, we don't monetize these, okay.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: So they had an abortion like a little abortion trailer
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: at the Democratic National Convention.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, and that's.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: An advertisement and it sort of propaganda's women that are like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: if you're a strong and independant, you'll do this, And
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: so women were pulled to the left and all the lies.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not a big trumper, it's not like I'm pro Trump,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: but it's just the lies they told about him, that
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: he was a rapist and all this other and so
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: women thought it was it was pro woman to rebel
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: against him and go left. And the men were like,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: that's just a bunch of nonsense that they made up,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: and they were definitely more awake. And so it was
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: it was masculinity. Masculinity won the day, and you could
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: see the split, especially in gen Z. But also and
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I and I made this prediction. I'm glad I did
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: it all my channels, but there's proof I said it.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: So I said, when men start to reject leftism outright
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: and feminism outright and you know, hose and all that whole.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Thing, the women are going to say, well, if I
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: want a man and I want a family one day,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I've better get on board. So some of those women
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: stayed to the right or went to the right. You
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: still have these to the left. However, much like first
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: wave feminism at the turn of the nineteenth and twentieth century,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: those women are not real lookers. A lot of times,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: they're the ones that are not going to be able
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: to get the highest caliber of man at all. And
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I think they resent that. And I think you see
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: that today in some of these bull ring buzzed hair,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: danger hair, yeah yeah, red right.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Colors like a poisoned frog.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah sure, Big Red from the Red Pill, Yeah, oh.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, the Big Red probably the greatest advocate for what
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: we do, ever, because her behavior made like our content possible.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: So thank you Big Red.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Now, all of you who were Big Red and everybody
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: knew who I was talking about. And I think the
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: examples we have today actually, if people juxtapose them, they're
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: way worse today. I mean, you know, big red almost
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: seems mild.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Think about it. They just because they're just angrier and angrier.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: And at this point we're kind of like, okay, go
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: have your tantrum, bye. And they hate that. The thing
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: they hate the most is being ignored, and the men
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: are ignoring them. They're ignoring them, and so these cream
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: louder and dye their hair more colors and tattoo their
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: faces and all the rest of it. In the matter
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: like whatever, I'll just be over here. The men realize
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: today I don't have to pick one of you. I
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: don't have to, whereas in like nineteen fifty to, for example,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the men thought, well, I gotta have a woman. I
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: gotta do the right thing. I'm supposed to have a wife.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: And in this day and age, the men are like, no,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I don't. And so the women, the women are not
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: going to get away with behaving the way they behave
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: and treating men the way they treat them and still
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: get what they want. They're not And that's why they're
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: so mad, and they're trying to say that we're all
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Andrew Tate, you know, and we're not. I think he
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: might be a sigh up kind of a you know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: controlled opposition to make people think that that's who we are.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: He certainly is convenient to the mainstream media like he represents.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: He's almost like a cartoon character, you.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Know, a comic book character. He's doctor Redpill or something.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, exactly. We're like, that's not really what
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: it is. Nice try trying to make us all seem
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: like we're you know, pro pickup artists and pro men
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: having fifty million women and cheating right and left. Like,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: that's not men. That's not who men are. That's not
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: their hearts overall, that's not what they want. But that's
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: very inconvenient for the mainstream and the powers that be.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: It's very inconvenient for us to talk about who men
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: really are and what a man's heart really is, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: that's what they're hiding. Yeah, want men to be these
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: predators and stuff like that, and it's just not true.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Are there bad men? Yeah, but there are way more
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: good men, wait less, and we need the good men
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: or else we're going to be overrun with the other
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and we're starting to do that, especially across Europe. Mm.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I I've always maintained that I think that
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the reason why this political thing shook out the way
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: it did is that leftism generally is feminine in its
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: like approach to you know, security and making sure that
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: everybody's taken care of, even if it's unrealistic, and the
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: rightism is more masculine. It's more like that, you know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: want to do what I want to do, and I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: think that men tend towards that. I remember I had
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: a talk with a libertary. This is like the saddest
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: thing because he's got never got a chance in hell
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: of getting elected, but he was a libertarian man running
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: for Prime Minister of Canada. Is why I'm saying it's ridiculous.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: And his name is Tim Moowen, and I've talked to
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: him on a few times and I tried to explain
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: this to him because I was trying to get him
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to see that libertarianism is impossible because women will never
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: vote for that because they're they're they're they believe that,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody should be taking care of everybody, right,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: So this this is the way it's going to turn out.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: And what happened in this last election was men in
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: droves finally said enough that that's what it was, because
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: it was mostly men and not just white men. Of
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the media wants you to think that it was mostly
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Latino men and a large number of black men and
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: other men, because it was the men that said, we're
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: tired of getting treated like garbage by by you people
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you know, considered it enemy and and you're reaching into
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: our pockets and you're taking our money and redistributing it
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: to women, right because the women are the net benefactors
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: of tax tax dollars. So they basically made a statement,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: and that's why things turn out that way. And look
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: for there are people in the chat that are saying that,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you know, all sites are feminists. Obviously that's true, but
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: like there are people in the Republican Party that are
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: still feminists. Is what what you would how you would
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: look at it? Oh my god, absolutely, and they say
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: they're not.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Those women actually are the most dangerous.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: M mean, yew the closet the closeted feminists right and there,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and there are men on that side too. But when
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I talk about the right I'm not talking about Republicans.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about people with Yes, I'm talking about the ideology.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: And if you if you adopt feminist views, then that
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: is by its very nature leftists. Like, that's what it is,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: even if you claim to be something else, because ultimately,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: what you are doing is saying what we should be
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: redistributing something to women. We should be putting women first,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: we should be spending tax dollars on women. Right, that's
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: not like, that's what I'm saying. So just to clarify that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Now the idea of leftism.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Uh oh oh, the meeting has ended. I gotta I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: gotta call you right back. Hold on, let me see
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: if I can create a new one and we'll start it. Sorry, guys,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: just a moment, Okay, I'm gonna invite her. Yeah, for
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: some reason, this was there should have been a payment made,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and I apologize for how it looks. I'm just going
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to send her the link again. She'll be right here.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I just as this is getting good, you know, all right,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: So let me just look at your comments while I'm
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: waiting for Aaron to get in. I just sent it
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to her again. I don't know why. It's like didn't
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: automatically like do the pay, but she didn't do this,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: So I men are picking alternatives like poorn Ai, et cetera,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: which is why you're going to see a lot more
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: attempts at censorship and banning all of them, and the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: both the left and the right will support it. Again,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I when you say the right, are you talking about
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Republicans because I'm on the right and I don't support it,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: So like, what where are you putting me? That's what
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I'm This is what I'm saying. Like this whole conversation
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: is just twisted because you're You're you. You really want
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: to be able to say nobody advocates for me while
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting here advocating for you. So like, I don't
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: see how that makes sense. All right, I just sent
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: it to her again. Let me see working on fixing
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: on my end. No, No, it's not you, it's not you,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: all right. Feminism is collective ist by definition, yes, obviously,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: And actually wignats who would be called like far right,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: they're collectivist too. They're leftists themselves. Mnemonics gives us five
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: dollars thank you and says everything they paint Andrew Tate
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: with is how women act, sleeping around, cheating, loose sexuality,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: loose sexually rather women coded. The worst they imagine of
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: men is just normal for women. Yeah, and well it's
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: only bad when men do it. When women do it,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: it's liberation, you see. So, uh, all right, I'm just
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: waiting for her to join sence her an invite. It
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: sucks that this happened, but it's not my fault. I
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: do my best, all right. You guys are arguing about
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: atheism in the chat. Look, you're not going to change
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: anybody's mind if you do that. Just decide what you
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: are and leave it at that. You don't have to
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: fight everybody war, Okay, art force. Oh, part of the
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: absurdity and folly or of atheist groups or atheist groups,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: it's trying to make atheism mean more than in what
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: it literally means. Karen was also guilty of this years ago. Yeah,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I mean Karen's kind of like let that go. She
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't really talk about that stuff anymore. In fact, I
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: think that it's probably like to me, the conversation about
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: atheism and theism, I'm not interested in having it because
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I think that it's just like kind of boring at
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: this point like there are still atheists looking to debate,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and the truth is is that the most prominent voices
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: in atheism are like the most cringe in terms of
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: their takes, like Sam Harris. Like the shit that Sam
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Harris has said is absolutely insane. So you know, just
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: waiting on Aaron. What was she say hasn't come through yet.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Let me just send it again. I think she didn't
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: see that I sent it, so I'll just send it again.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: She'll be back here. I'm gonna have to go a
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: little bit over the hour. That's okay with you guys,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: So she should be here in just a second. But like,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: this is Allison's fault. I'm just putting it out there.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: She's the worst thing about Honeybadger Radio. And damn, I
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: thought we moved to video ninja. Now everybody knows how
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: to use video ninja. Allison, you have to understand that
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: most of the people we have on Surprise eye chats
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: are like not tech savvy enough to run video ninja.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: The two flavors of people that want to control things
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: like AI to protect the groups they care about, the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: anti pron types on the left and right. And by
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: left and right, I'm talking about two different flavors of
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: anti porn. Well, then just say that there are people
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: who are against porn and they have different excuses for it.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, both of
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the sides you're talking about are protecting women, you know,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and they think male sexuality is disgusting. Like that's the same.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So I don't get the hold on. Did Aaron get
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: my message? I'm not going to do this right now, Alison,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you just got to like figure it out. Waiting on
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Aaron to get back. All right, great, Indoors says, I
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: remember Carl made a video about how feminism is a cult. Well,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: obviously it is. Trying to hold on. Okay, she's coming.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Oh here she is. Okay, just a moment, there you are.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Oh but I kind of hear you, but I don't
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: see you yet.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Oh whoops. Okay, okay again, you can go.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: To the camera down the video and yeah, there you go. Okay, good.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: It was. It was a whole different thing anyway.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: What oh, well, thanks for being patient with me.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I guess Alison thought for some reason that I was
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: using a different service for my fireside chat guests and
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I and I said, no, Zoom is the easiest thing
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: for people to use because I have something else, but
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: it's more complex and I don't use it. So anyway,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: welcome back. What were we talking about?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Uh, this meeting has been upgraded.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, Alison just now. Alison just paid for it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: So oh okay, we were talking about politics. Hey yeah, leftism, leftism.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: You can't have leftism without feminism and you can see them.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Are you crazy? That's nuts. I have no idea I
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: could have swarm what Okay, No finish saying that because
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I want to add some I'm want to ask you
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: something after that that's related to go ahead.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: You can see that with like the Bolshevik Revolution, and
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: you can see that one of the first things they
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: did was implement no fault divorce, yes, and remove marriage
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: and stuff from the church to the state. And people
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: don't often realize that that's feminism. That's giving women a
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: different type of power that opens to leftism because like
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: you said, that's how women want to run things. So
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: as soon as you give them the power, they're going
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: to try to run things like it's a kindergarten classroom.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: You can't do that. Everybody gets a cracker and juice. Timmy,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: carry your cracker, you know what I mean. And you're like,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: that's just not reality. So that's exactly what you said.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Well, then how is it possible that there are MRAs
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: that are leftists? Do they just not know that they're
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: basically rolling a boulder uphill that's going to roll back down.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, okay, let me probly.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: People who advocate for men's issues. Yeah, and they've been
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: doing it. They could be doing it for a long time.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: They could have just started whatever, but they want to
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: keep it completely separate from the let's say, you know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: from the dynamic of the political itself. So it's like,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I just want to do this, but I don't want
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: to deal with this right, And my thing is you
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: have to deal with it because they're related. Like, there's
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: nothing about what we do that isn't political. Absolutely, It's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: very nature now.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Everything is political. Everything is and people tend to think
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: of politics is like when you go and vote. No,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: it's how everything is run. It's how we all interact,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and so you can't have one thing not affect the other.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: And what I would say to MRAs who are leftists,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I will be generous to them and say, well, everybody
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: is somewhere along the journey and this is just something
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: they haven't realized yet because it is just a truth
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: and just it just can't you just can't. You can't
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: be a leftist and fight for men because leftism to
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: exist tears men down because what you do is you
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: remove men's authority and you put the state there. And
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: that's what. So this is the whole thing. Well, I
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: don't believe in the patriarchy, blah blah blah. Well, then
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: you don't believe in men, because that is in my opinion,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: You've got God, man, woman, child, and those are our rules.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm secure enough to know that that doesn't mean
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I'm worth any less. I think there are some women
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: and some men that don't think of women in that
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: high our regard, so they can't accept where we are.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: But patriarchy is not oppression. There's never been a time
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: where the patriarchy has actually oppressed anyone. There are bad
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: people ginghis Khan was not the patriarchy. He was a
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: bad guy who wanted to, you know, seize power. That's
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: not the patriarchy. The patriarchy protects, the patriarchy takes care,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: but in order to destroy men, and you know why,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: about who they are and how they are. You have
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to defame the patriarchy. And everyone's got a misconception in
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: my opinion, about what the patriarchy is.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: In my way, I think that No. I think that's
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: on purpose because when today, if a person hears the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: word patriarchy, they immediately go to the feminist definition, the
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: feminist interpretation of it, and not something that was basically
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: a system that just worked for most of our most
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: of our time on this earth.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: It's basically daddy's in charge. Daddy loves us. Like if
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: you look at the microcosm, is the nuclear family. That's
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: the father, the mother, the children. And if women, here's
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: the thing. If you get women thinking about, oh, the patriarchy,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: it's not going to work. You try to convince them
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: the patriarchy is benevolent, it'll never work. But if you
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: can get them as long as they don't have serious
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: daddy and she's like, oh, you've abandoned me or whatever.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: If you get them thinking about their dad or their grandpa,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: and you think, yeah, grandpa, he loves us, he's good
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: to us. He wouldn't he wouldn't let anybody hurt us.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: When we were little kids. That's the patriarchy. That's the patriarchy.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: That's theer cosm of what the macro is. And you
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: have to personalize this for women, it's the way we think.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: We think micro and that's why whenever you watch any
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: kind of you know, discussion with some of these women there,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: they personalize it all the time, like, oh, I don't
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: do that, and I know Susie over there doesn't do that.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's not about you. But that's how we think.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: So in order to reach them, we have to go
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: there and go, hey, but what about your brother? But
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: what about your dad? And then they can go oh,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: and then you branch out from there and pretty soon
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: they go, wait a second, have I been lied to
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: about who men are? Because if you think about it,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, the husbands back in the day were just
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: beating their wives and they come home and just and
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: that's what women think. They're like, oh, we need to
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: have a divorce because this is what will happen if
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: we don't. Like that is not who men are? What
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: are you talking about? They never never like that? Are
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: there like a handful yeah, but that's not overwhelmingly what
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: it was. And if you start to think, think about
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: your dad, think about your grandpa, think about your great grandpa.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Was that going on? Was grandma? You know, I'll complain
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: No, exactly. Yeah, you'd have to basically assume because like
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: the way that the narrative works is that women today
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: think that men have every generation before the one they're
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: in was terrible for women. So you'd have to think
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: that your mom was going through it, and your grandma
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: was going through it even worse, and your great grandma
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: was even worse, and it just doesn't add up if
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: you take a moment to think about it.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Right, it's all about our history nineteen eighty four. He
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: who controls the past controls the present. He who controls
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: the present controls the future.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: That's where Yes, and so you have speaking of stories
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty four. So you've been more recently doing
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: a Yes, they're live streams where you read fairy tales
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: or maybe your video.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I actually did it live this past Sunday. I actually did.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I've started to do more lives because they've become braver.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it started out we read some old like
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Paul Harvey stuff from the radio. I read, Oh my gosh,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I'm forgetting who who it was by, but an old
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: poem from maybe the nineteenth century. And then I thought,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: you know, all this stuff about Disney, this was back
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: when they were in the works with their horrible snow
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: White months when and I started to think about how
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Disney has these fairy tales and women have this like
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: princess mentality that they deserve this and happily ever after
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: and stuff, how a lot it came from us, especially
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: my generations are Ella, Sleeping, Beauty, snow White. And I thought,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: you know, I know the Grim Brothers original fairy tales
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: are very different. I've heard that, but have I read it. No?
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: So I thought, I actually have an old book. It's
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: right there. I have an old Grim Brother's fairy tale
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: book that I came across when I was, you know,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: getting second hand furniture. It was there in a thought,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: and I read the Real Cinderella. And what I learned
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: from the Real Cinderella is that the ugly Stepsisters they
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: were ugly in the Disney one, right, they weren't ugly,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: and Grim Brothers they were beautiful, but they were not
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: virtuous or not desirable, which is very, very different when
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: you think about it because in this day and age,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: we don't talk about virtue or anything like that, and
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: we certainly don't say you're only beautiful if you're virtuous,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: and if you're not virtuous, you're ugly and undesirable. So
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the step sisters were actually very pretty, but the prince
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: wasn't interested in them because of their character.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Right, So they were ugly people in inside, right they were.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: They had ugly personalities. Maybe they were entitled. They were
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: just like difficult.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: They were mean, they were lazy, they were all these things.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: And I and I thought to myself from the perspective
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: of okay, well, what if when I was younger and
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: all these other little other women, when they were little girls,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: what if that's the story we had seen that if
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: you're not virtuous, you're not desirable. Mm hmm. How would
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: we have grown up differently? We would have said, I
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: don't want to I don't want to be like those
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: step sisters. And and the way we looked at it
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: when we were little is I don't want to be
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: like those stepsisters, They're ugly. I want to be pretty
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: like Cinderella. Well what if they were all pretty, but
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Cinderella was virtuous? That would have given us a different
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: desire about who we're going to be, and that would
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: have changed so much. So after I read that, I thought,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: all right, guys, I think we know what we have
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: to do. We're going through this whole book. And then
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: what happened was there is a man. I'm going to
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: give him a shout out. There is a man in
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: my chat all the time, and he's been there like
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: since the beginning when I started in twenty twenty. His
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: name of Rojas Carlson. He lives in Norway anyway. He
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: knows the fairy tales and he can read them in German.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: And he said, that's not the same as my book.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: That's not the same as my book. My book refers
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: to God. My book refers to God in different tales.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: And I said, hold on a second, this is nineteen
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: thirty something. I need their original.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I'm only the book. The book you have is from
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: nineteen thirty. Yes, the old book.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I got an old book. Now. Another guy, another guy
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: on my channel, sent me the it's a public it's
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: a newer publication, but it is the ones from eighteen
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: twelve and eighteen fifteen, and they refer to God. They
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: refer to piousness. They refer to virtue constantly, and women
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: it is like it is like warnings from ment mother
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: in laws, which is who are the other ones? You
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: had to watch out for? So much truth that if
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: little if if little boys were taught these things, y'all
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: would have grown up knowing what to look for. You
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: would not have grown up thinking that we're sugar and
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: spice and all things nice, and we would have grown
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: up requiring more of our character and understanding that that's
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: what's if we want to be beautiful. Every little girl
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: and woman wants to be beautiful. And who decides if
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: a woman is beautiful or not? Who sucks y'all do?
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm? So yeah, and uh, you know, it's it's
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: interesting you brought that up because we did for a
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: little while. We were also reading Old Grim's fairy tales
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: as well, and I got the the the most authentic
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: and oldest versions I could get my hands on on Amazon,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: and we were looking at the stories. I still have
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the file on my computer. Was interesting because you know,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: I knew that they made that they were religious in tone,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: because it was the like when you're looking at Yeah,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the Brother's Grim, when you're looking at the any fairy
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: tales from that time, they were going to have some
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: either some religious or pagan influence in it, but usually
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: it was religious. It was usually Christian, yes, and yeah,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: like we read and I kept I saw it over
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: and over in them and that because there had to
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: be you know, virtues, They're either they're either going to
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: come out as as Christian or Hellenic or something.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting that you mentioned that because what got
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: me interested in going through those fairy tales was I
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: watched the I knew that the new snow White was
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: coming out, and I knew Bates on the interviews that
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: the it was going to be completely different than the original.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: So I watched the original snow White, the very first full,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: you know, feature length Disney movie, and I paid very
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: close attention to what they did in that and and
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: that movie came out in like the thirties, that thirty seven, I.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Believe, that's right, got it.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: But so like even then, it was probably a little
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: bit more modernized compared to what it was originally, how
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: it was writtinly written, Yes it Yeah, so you can
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: see because if okay, so did you how long has
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: it been since you saw the original animated snow White
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: But that was my favorite one, So I know it
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: pretty well. I'm like worried if you refer to something
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: that I won't but I know it pretty.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: No, No, like what one of the things that that
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: is in it? So what what is it about? What?
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: How do they present snow White as a character that
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: made her an appealing protagonist in the story, Like what
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: was it about her that made her great? Do you
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: do you remember?
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Are you talking about the way she looked or the
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: way she behaved? No?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: No, no, not the way she looked, mean, obviously she
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: was pretty, but like the way, yeah, her behavior, her actions,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: her responses to things, that kind of stuff.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: She was. She was gentle. She was she served the
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: dwarves in exchange for them housing her. She she didn't
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: obey them very well because she listened to the queen,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: like she opened the door for the queen. But I
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: don't remember in the movie if the dwarf said, don't
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: open the door for anybody.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that exactly either. I think they were
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: worried for her, but she was really innocent and didn't know.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, she was very innocent, So like
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: that sweet.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing about it that stood out for me
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: was basically what you said, Like she was her virtues
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: were her charity, her good nature, So like, no matter
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: how hard her life was, she was grateful.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: She wasn't Yeah, she wasn't complaining.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: No, even when she was like a slave to the
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: queen and she was just like cleaning around. She sang songs.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: She made the most of it. And when she found
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: the dwarves and and she said, I have to do
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: this for them in exchange for this, right, So like
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: there was an idea of being of service and of
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: course the dwarfs it and her feminine She basically brought
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: a feminine touch to the dwarves experience. So it was
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: basically like, yeah, it was basically like what essentially what
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: it was trying to do was say, okay, what are
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: feminine virtues that we can show, right, and how do
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: we express it. It's not her fighting battles, it's not
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: her leading a revolution. You know, all this like goofy
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: stuff that we see now this girl Boss stuff is
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: none of that. But it was really impactful.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: It really was, and it was a very good example
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: of the feminine and the masculine coming together with the
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: dwarves represent they worked really hard. You know, they dug
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: in the mines all day and you know, well.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: That's why the place was a mess because by the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: time they were done, they were bushed. So they go
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: right to sleep, so like their house fell into you know,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: a bit of disrepair.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Of course, of yes, and they you know, they couldn't
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: really take It's not that met or mess. Men are
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: very organized and clean, but they are exhausted. And I mean,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: imagine coming home from the mine. It's gonna be it's
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: gonna be dirty. And she brought, like you said, feminine.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: It was more than just clean. It was peaceful. Yeah,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: And she was kind to them. She didn't resent them
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: for being dirty. She didn't nag them. She was grateful
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: through all of the hardships, the things that aren't fair.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: She was grateful through everything. She was grateful to the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: huntsman who came to take her heart out. She didn't
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: sit there and oh my god, I can't believe that
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: evil queen and you go there, you cut her heart out.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: She never sought revenge on the queen. She didn't say,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: guess work.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Well, she didn't even know the queen had poisoned her. No,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: it was completely clueless about that.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: You knew that the queen sent the huntsman to the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: heart out. She knew that. He never said to the dwarves,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: guess what the queen did, Let's go get her. She
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: never said that. She never expected that of them.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think you ever expected anything from them. She
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: was grateful to them for giving her the opportunity to
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: have a place to stay.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And one more thing too, is I thought this
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: this scene really jumped out at me. She prayed for
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: the dwarves, like there's a whole And the thing is
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: is that in nineteen thirty seven, if you saw something
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: like that, you wouldn't think anything of it because that
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: was so normal. But today you're like, oh shit, like
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: it's a good pardon my friend. She prayed for the dwarves.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: And what I wanted to bring it to. The reason
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: why I bring this up is that the when I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: say that we have lived under a feminist paradigm for
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: longer than anyone has been alive or their parents, like
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: this is very, very old, and so most people don't
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: know they're in that they're operating within that paradigm. You
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: can look at the evolution of these Disney movies as
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: a sort of like a microcosm of an example. So
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: you had the snow White movie, which was their first
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: feature film, nineteen thirty seven. World War Two hadn't even
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: started yet. This is how old it is, right, And
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: they had like subtle Christian themes. And then it moves
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: as more films come out, they move further and further
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: away from the grim fairy tales in little steps. And
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that Walt Disney himself knew he
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: was doing that. I don't think he did. I think
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: that they were operating. I mean, I don't know, I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm thinking they're operating within the paradigm.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: But people people in the chat are going to be saying,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: thirty three through your third degree, Mason, I.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Don't know, I don't know. I don't know much about
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: that's about Walt Disney in that regard. But but I
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: will say that the you know, people will say that
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: it is only in this recent spate of Disney movie
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: He's where they've jumped the shark. And what I'm trying
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: to tell you is that this has very this has
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: been going on for much longer. And one of the
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: things I bring up is the Little Mermaid. But all
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: of the stuff from the Silver Age, like the sort
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: of renaissance of Disney, Little Mermaid, Sleeping Beauty and all that,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: they were all progressive, like very progressive, right, Like Bell
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: was like smarter than everybody in town. She thought they
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: were all bumpkins and didn't want to be there anymore.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: And yet Gaston is the guy we're supposed to hate
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: because you know what.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, like reminds me of Titanic.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hel what we're gonna say about Titanic?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Oh that Rose is the villain?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, Titanic.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like cal he was. That was her fiance,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: and he was supposed to be so bad and we're
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: all supposed to hate him, but there's nothing wrong with
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: him at all. Yeah, he was the stand up guy.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: She was the one that was the problem. And I'm
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: just sort of saying, you know, we're supposed to hate
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Gaston and he was a little egotistical, I suppose, but.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Well, and what but what was Gaston symbolically though? Too? See,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I think that they were trying to say something about
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: toxic masculinity that's right, and because what what everything is?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Like He's got the best song in the movie, by
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the way, the best song is the gas on song.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: But all of the things, yeah, all the things that
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: he loves are all things that men do. They just exaggerated, right,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: like eating four dozen eggs because he wants to be big,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: and we're supposed to find that shameful, like you know,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: guys are supposed to like be fit and there's nothing
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: wrong with eggs, Like, you know, that's so funny.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I never thought about those lyrics. It reminds me how
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: they're trying to say that guys like working out nowadays
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: or whatever.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Is like right wing. Yeah, see some thing, yes, yes,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Gaston is that, like like what does he like to do?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: He likes to hunt. How do you know? Because he
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: decorates everything with antlers, so like you know, it's it's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: all in there and he is essentially And here's another
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: thing too that people don't may not have caught. Gaston's
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: voice is intentionally operatic because older like stories like for example,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: do you ever hear of an old cartoon called Mighty Mouse?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: And he would say, here I come to save the day.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: The way that he sang that like everybody would sing
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: their lyrics. It was kind of operatic. Gaston's voice was
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: based on that. It was like this kind of stereotypical,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: square jawed heroic character from like the turn of the century,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like the villain ties a lady to the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: railroad tracks and the guy shows up and saves her.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: That's the way he talks. That's what Gaston is based on.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: So it was an attack on masculinity, like every single facet.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: And because I don't know if there is a guest
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: on the original Beating the Beast story, I haven't like
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: looked into it yet.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Well, we did read a story here recently a few
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: weeks ago. God it escaping me the name of it.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: But then men in the chat we're saying, this is
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: like beating the beast. This reminds me of beating the Beast.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if what it was based on,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: and I can't believe I can't remember what the name
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: of it was, but yeah, wow, I'm.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: And here's another thing too, is that in the original, Yeah,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: the original, the original lesson of beating the Beast, it's
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: supposed to be. I'm pretty sure that Bell or whoever
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: the main female protagonist is in the story is supposed
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: to learn to be less shallow and see past like
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: it's it's her growth, right, But in the movie that's
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: not really what happens.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: We have to simplify. The Beast has to become.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: To Yes, she tames him in a way, right, yes, right,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: And this is like I think that that's I don't
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: think that's supposed to be no story.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: No, it's like because obviously Gaston was toxic masculinity, so
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: the Beast is kind of that too, uh, and so
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: she's got to tame him. But you know, I'm not
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: a fan of Jordan Peterson, especially not anymore, but beck
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: when I thought he was different, he said something to
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: men about you need to learn to be a monster,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: and and.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: No, that's true. It have it under control. Yeah, that's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: the thing like.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: That inside of you, and it's not something to take away.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: I think part of that's why men need fathers so much,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: and why a mother cannot bring a boy into manhood
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: because we don't understand all of that because we don't
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: have it, you know what I mean, we don't have
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: that capacity for violence like that. We just don't. And
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: I remember Myron from Fresh and fit and he does
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of other things. He said something that blew
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: my mind. He said, women don't understand violence, and I went,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: that's such a simple statement. But he's right because we can't,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: so we don't know and stuff like that, so we
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: do think it's all bad. You can't society like that.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, though, when when men and women get violent,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: it looked really different. And what I mean is, I'm
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: not saying that it's different because men are stronger. I
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: think that men, like let's say two men get into
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: a fight, okay, at a bar or something, usually go
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: into one of them submits like it's not like I'm
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: going to kill this man with my bare hands. It's
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: like I'm going to It's like it's like bucks, you know,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: like butting heads to see who's the who wins, and
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: then the other one submits and that's the end of it. Well,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: when women get into fights, it's like they're trying to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: do permanent damage to each other. And I think it's
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: because they there is there isn't the same kind of
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: social I don't know, like constraints on that. So women
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: go in like they're trying to finish them off. That's
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: why I think, you know, we don't. Nobody wants to
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: talk about it. But that's why lesbian relationships have like
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: the highest rates of domestic violence.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: That's right. You know, we don't have the boundaries on it.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: We don't have proper boundaries on violence the way men do.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: We don't learn that growing up. And it's sort of
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: like a it's in desperation and it's all emotion, So
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: there are boundaries. It's all emotion. And as long as
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: that rage is going, fight still on. And actually I
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: was at a baby shower the other day and the
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: people are very Christian, very conservative. We prayed before the
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: shower started. It was it was it was nice. I
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: like them be a little more, but you know, and
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: the mother was telling me, and she's like in her sixties.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: She was not the mother of the baby, the mother
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: of the lady who's having the baby. Anyway, she said
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: to me, she was watching two boys and one is
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: very uh like, if something happens, he goes and runs
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: to mommy. The other one and these are like ones
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: eight like two years old, the other like they're little, right,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: So one like runs to mommy if anything goes down.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: The other one kind of is not a bully, but
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: more that way domineering. And the lady said, I just
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: let him work it out, and I, you know, I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: didn't let the little one run to me, and I
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: didn't do anything. And what happened was the little sort
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: of we'll call him the the wimpier one, right, the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: more passive one, learned to stand up for himself, and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: the other one learned to back off and have respect.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Because the one who knew I can't run to mommy,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: he stood up for himself. And the one that was
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: more like a bully said, oh crap. I said to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: the woman, I said, wow, you just gave them such
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: a lesson. I said, you just saved a whole problem.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: When they're fourteen years old and they don't know where
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: the boundary is. Those are who the dangerous meant the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: ones that don't learn.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: That absolutely, like when you look at the low impulse
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: control that happens where this is what I'm saying, like
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: this is learned from you know, from your father mostly
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: so like the well the Carmelo Anthony incident, Okay, this
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: is this is a product of a man who is
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: thinking like a woman, so he goes for the fatal
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: blow right, because like, why is it that women start
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: more wars when they're put in positions of power? Why
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: does a queen start more wars? Because they don't see
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: the costs? Right, they're not the ones. It's not just
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: that politicians don't go to war, obviously they don't, although
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of politicians are veterans. But it's that they
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: don't know what the cost is, so they just do.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: They just use force. Right. This is why they're okay
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: with sadism as well, because they're like, well, I'm just
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: gonna get the resources and redistribute them. But what does
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: that mean. Well, it means pointing guns at people who
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: make money. But I don't know what that looks like.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna do it. And so like when
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: you get this is the thing fatherlessness is creating. It's
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: exacerbating this problem. It's making it to where like boys
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: and girls have lower impulse control. It comes out in boys,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: it comes out with more violence that is more unrestrained,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: that is less measured, that is less you know, like controlled,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: because it's but the strength and power are still there,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: but they have the emotions of a woman. And then
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: with the girls, it comes out in you know violence
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: as well, where they're like ripping hr e t o
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: other's hair out, but try to disfigure the other person,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: essentially destroying their value. And also they're over sex. Then
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: they they get they have babies younger, and they're you know,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: teenage moms and all that, and and what do we
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: do with that? When women do that, We subsidize them.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: We just give them money and let tell them to
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: raise their kids. And then we blame men for not
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: being around.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Right, we reward it and we blame the men and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: no matter what, because it can't be the woman's fault.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: And it's like, well, if you really loved women, you'd
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: hold them accountable, you'd treat them like they could control themselves,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: you'd treat them like they have some agency. But when
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: we excuse everything and we don't require anything of them,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: you're insulting them. Yeah, this is why this whole feminism thing.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Feminism hates women at the end of the day. It
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't look like that on its face, but it does.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Are we happier? No? Are we doing better? No? And
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: it's gonna get worse. There's gonna be so many women
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: dying alone, childless relationshipless.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Crying, in their cars on TikTok.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely crying in their cars, drinking way too much wine,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: you know, because one of the things we are not
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: the best at is seeing. Like you said, like we
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: don't pay the cost for a lot of stuff, at
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: least we haven't in the past, so we make decisions
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: not thinking about what the end cost is. We are
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: so spoiled in that way. And I also think that
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: we're not good at it. We're really just not good at,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: you know, seeing having foresight. It's not our thing. We
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: are better designed to see the moment when the baby
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: cries right now, you know, someone sick right now, not future.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Men are to be good at the planning and the
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: future and the foresight. They're very good at it. It's amazing.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: It's almost like God made us to be complimentary. And
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: when we're doing what we're supposed to do, when women
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: act like women, and we're not right now, because we're
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: told that that's not good enough. We need to be
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: more like men. And that's what feminism says, and that
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: is anti woman.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Yes it is. We're running out of time, but I
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: want to ask a couple more questions, and again, I
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: want to thank you for taking the time to come on.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: And anybody who wants to send any questions to Aaron
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: just go to feed thebatgel dot com force slash just
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: the tip to send us a message through the discord,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: or you can send a super chat or rumble rant
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: and I'll be sure to read it. But we are
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: you know this is your last call for that. So
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: have you gotten any hate on your channel? And if so,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: where not a lot?
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Actually in the beginning, I got chameleon, grifter, all those things.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, from the men.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: What I told them was I understand why you think that,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to tell you anything different because
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: you should. You should not trust me. I am female.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't just trust me because I say so. And
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: what I told them was check back in a year,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: two years, ten years, I will still be here. I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: will still be saying the same things, and hopefully I'm
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: even more evolved. And that man I spoke about a
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: little earlier, Rojas, he did just that. He saw me
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: in the beginning. He said, eh, she's a chameleon, she's
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: a grifter. Forget it. But he checked back in and
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: now he's there in every video. And so that was
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: the beginning. Now that it's growing a bit more. And
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: I've noticed after I've done the last couple of lives, which,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: like I said, it's new for me to do it. Live.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Had a couple women haters. Just read a comment this
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: morning talking about you're just jealous because my mom had
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: me when she was forty.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: What I know, what is that in reference? Is there
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: context to that?
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Like tends to me saying like women should you know,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: be having babies, oh a younger, Yeah, when we're younger,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: and we should all have babies, et cetera, et cetera. Right,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: that's my opinion. And she just said I was jealous, and.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, that doesn't make sense ever.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Think of trying to make an argument, oh that we can't.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: So it's things like that. It's just little things like
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: that you have internal misogyny. And I'm like, all right,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: well prove it. Well.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about that is that like if
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: she had if her mother had her when she was forty,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: he might have some issues genetic issues, and if she doesn't,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: she should probably be extremely grateful that that she lucked
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: out on that.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my brain went a little darker. I thought, I
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: wondered if syndrome baby she aborted before she had you.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's maybe I thought.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I like, well, good for her, but
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: that was irresponsible and and way to pick out. You know,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: they always pick out the extreme example to.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Make Yeah, there anecdote trumps your data jealous I know somebody,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. So, uh, what's next for you? Do
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: you have any new formats, topics or projects you're working on.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I am trying to do more lives. That's that's
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: my goal is to do more live content, hopefully to
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: do more interviews like this, to try to you know,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: spread the message a little more, just because I have
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: such a unique perspective where I'm Christian, but I'm anti marriage.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Not anti marriage, but anti anti it's right by the
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: state and in this current climate, with the laws the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: way they are, even if you're not government married, it's
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: still very difficult and with the culture of women just
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: like I'm not happy, so whatever, you know what I mean.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: So I think it's a unique perspective that I think
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: it needs to be out there and I think that
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not trying to get too big
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: for my birches, but I think that I can reach
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: some women who are reachable. I think it's very much
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: like the Matrix the movie. I think some people just
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: can't be woken up.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not for sure, you can't.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of reaching them. And I think
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: I think I'm developing how to do that because as
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: I was there, I was pre red pill at one time,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: and now I'm so I know how I got here,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: and I would like the opportunity to bring other women
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: along because it's gonna take the women to turn back
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: any of this that we can turn back. We are
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: we were the catalyst for making this get bad to
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: where it is, and so the men can't fix it.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Nobody listens to men. Y'all are toxic and this, that
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: and the other. The only people people, the only people
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: that are listened to is women. So we're it's up
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: to us to defend the men because they've been silenced.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: So I turned to reach as many women as possible
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: to bring these things to light. That's kind of my goal.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for, you know, new and new ways to
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's interesting you brought that up because I've
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: talked about this concept comes out of Maoism. It's called
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: black categories, and men have been put into a black category.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: That means that just the mere mention or the understanding
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: that a perspective is coming from someone who is male,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: and people are programmed to automatically turn their brains off,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: especially if that man is advocating or speaking out for men.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: So with that in mind, do you think that there
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: is an advantage to being a woman when you're having
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: this conversation.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Absolutely all day long, because as soon as the man
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: starts up, immediately he's all these things in their mind.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: It like triggers something like somebody who's been hypnotized. And
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: for example, the other day I was at physical excuse me,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: physical therapy and she asked me what you got going
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: on this week? And I told her, told her I
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: was going to interview with you. I told her what
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: a honeybatger was. And a lot of these people have never,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: like your normies, have never heard of men's rights. They
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: don't even know men need rights like they've been taught. Yeah,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: you know all the blowney And I gave her examples.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: I said, like how the family court system always favors
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: the women. And I said this, I said, because you
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: know you can say men are trash, can't say women
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: are trash. Can't say that. And she was like, like,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: I saw it in her head. So I'm dropping these
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: little pearls of wisdom wherever I can go that. I
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: think it'll just get in their brains a little bit
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: and they'll go, yeah, next time they hear, and they
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: will if they're a woman. The next time they hear
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: somebody disparage men say something like that, their brain's going
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: to go, oh, yeah, that's really not okay, because we
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: wouldn't want it the other way around.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I find more success with men. Women will they
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear what I have to say. But
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: if but if men ask me what I do and
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: I tell them a little bit about it, almost no,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: not even almost every single man I've spoken to has
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: a story. Yes, Oh I know a guy I went
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: through this, Like, I went.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: To a.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Funeral service for my oldest friend. He passed away. He
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: was he had albinism, and so I know him since
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: I was like three years old, four years old, so
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: forever he died and I went to his funeral because
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: when if you have albinism, it comes with lots of
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: complications and they usually don't live that long like he
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: made it to, like his in his early fifties. But
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: I went there and I saw a bunch of my
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: old buddies from high school. And I hadn't seen these
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: guys in years. And we sit down and we're talking,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm like getting the Hey, what have you guys
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: been up to? Like more than half of them are
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: like divorced or separated, and I'm like oh. And then
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: they asked me, so what do you do? And I'm like, well,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: talk about men's issues and like, oh, really, like what
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: old divorce, child custody, child support, you know, alimony, like
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: all these issues with marriage. And they were like, only
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: one guy that of those friends is still with his wife.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, hold on that, like
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: No, what's his life like? Is he living happy wife?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: No, he seems to eat.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: I think that Well, I don't really know. I didn't
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: like go into it too deep. But you've got three children,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: he's been married for twenty years. It could simply be
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: he's just doing everything he's told so he doesn't tap
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: on any eggshells. I don't know the story. I didn't
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: want to get into it too much, but My point
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: is is that when I think that you're right about that,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: I think that women in the space, and there's been
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of women talking about this stuff that have
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: like overnight, just blown up like one hundred thousand subscribers,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: et cetera. And I think you're going places. But what
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: I appreciate about your work is that you're willing to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: say the things that even those women are not willing
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: to say. Okay, I'm not naming any names, but I
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: think you guys know I know xactly.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm not going to do things I know
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: what to do where I can just get views. I
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: know exactly the type of videos to make where I
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: just get lots of views, sit there and react to
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: TikTok and be like this is that dating is today,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: This is not what men want. Blah blah blah, like
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: over and over and over again. But okay, let's get
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: down to it. Let's really talk about everything. Like you said, leftism, history, culture, everything.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: I cannot just contain it here. And I will not
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: just do things because of the likes or the views
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: or this and that. I want to do something that's
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: actually meaningful. Yeah, you know, I want to have something
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: that really matters. And so you know, subs have slown
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: down a little bit for me lately. And you know,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: when that happens, you start to go, well, am I
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: not doing it right? Or am I not? And I said, no,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: you're just not getting the easy stuff. You're not getting
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: the low hanging fruit because that's not as far from
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Eden is. And I won't compromise it. I won't stop
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: talking about God because obviously that's gonna limit. Some people
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: are gonna be like, oh and click it off, and
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: that's fine, it's not for you. I guess not yet.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I totally.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: Am Yeah, No, that's great. Okay, last question, I'm just
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: checking to see if there's any super childs or super chats.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: I don't see anything yet, but I don't want to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: miss anything in case something got under the radar. Okay,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: So since starting to since you started doing this, in
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: what way, if any, do you feel you change the most?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: That's a great question. How have I changed the most?
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: I have become obsessed with the truth, and the more
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: I do it, the hungrier I am for the truth
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: in everything. And I have noticed that everything points to
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: that no matter what you're doing, no matter what you're
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: searching for. If you're searching for the truth, it presents itself,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: if that makes sense, and it grabs hold of you
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: and you can't you can't look back, and so I don't.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that was like the answer you're
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: looking for. I personally I have I'll just get real personal.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: Having the ms and being so restricted physically, I have
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: had problems understanding what my meaning and purpose is in life,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: like what is it even for? And I've had very
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: dark times, very dark times where I've thought, well, maybe
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: I should take the permanent ticket out. And I think
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: I'm actually grateful for those times now because I know
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: that men are facing those times and where it's not
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: as bad, like I'm not wondering where my children are.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: My children don't hate me or this that or the
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: other rendered homeless because of you know, child support or whatever.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: But I've been in that very dark place and now
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not. And I want to help give that to
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: others if I can. And so I tell the men,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: you know, always remember that you don't get your value
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: from what women think of you. And so that has
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: fed purpose to me, and that is a change in
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: my life that is beyond words. So that's how I've
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: changed the most, is that this has given my life
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: purpose and meaning that it really never had before.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm really glad you stuck it out. And
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: I assume that it's you know, like my priest would say,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: whenever something bad happens to us, whenever we suffer, we
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: he says, it's it's not it's suffering is God's mercy,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: so that we like because it's it could be a
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: lot worse.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: Christ. Huh, suffering draws us closer to Christ.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that it's humility that that we
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: need the most right now. This is part of like
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: one of our biggest struggles is everyone, uh is struggling
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: with their human their pride, and and that like the
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: ability to say I was wrong is like the hardest thing.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: So with that said, I'm going to wrap it up there.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Erin. I hope you had fun on the show.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, maybe maybe you'll come back on sometime.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Let me know whatever. This was fantastic.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Okay, cool, thank you, thank you for coming on,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: and thank you guys for watching the fireside Chat. I
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: look forward to seeing your comments and I want to
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: thank Aaron from Far from Eden from coming on the show.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's lots of, like I said before, women
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: in the space talking about these things, but they're not
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: going as far as people like us or Far from
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: Eden does. You know a lot of them are just
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: doing what's easy, right, what make some money, We'll get
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: some clicks, and then they'll also engage in what I
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: call containment of the status quo, you know, like, hey,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: we need a little bit of feminism, you know, and
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's all I got to go, right,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: so get rid of it. Yeah, it's all we gotta go.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: And the only way is if women take that step.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: That's what it needs, that's what it requires. So we
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: need we need women to do it. That's right. We
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: need women to be a part of that. So anyway,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: thanks guys for coming on the show. We'll definitely have
• 1:31:51
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