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Aging Well With Cannabis The New Book From Dr Peter Grinspoon · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 2: This is Peter Grinspoon. Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to that energy. Doctor, My god, you're right on target.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a lot of it's the caffeine speaking.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, okay, since we're going to talk about caffeine
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  Speaker 1: right off the bat. Now, I gotta know, why is
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  Speaker 1: it that cannabis Does it make me feel the same
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  Speaker 1: way you're the doctor.
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  Speaker 2: I need to know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, cannabis is a complicated molecule of five hundred different
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  Speaker 3: chemicals in it, so wow. There are different types of cannabis,
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  Speaker 3: so some of them can make you feel wide awake,
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  Speaker 3: and some of them can make you feel sleepy and relaxed.
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  Speaker 1: I love the fact that you've got aging well with
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  Speaker 1: cannabis because we are in that age which I never
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  Speaker 1: thought we would ever do, get up here where we
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  Speaker 1: are when it comes to cannabis. I mean, it really
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  Speaker 1: is everywhere, and it's getting into everything that we're doing
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  Speaker 1: right now, and we need someone like you, doctor to
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  Speaker 1: really kind of set us straight.
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  Speaker 3: Well, people get older, they have trouble sleeping, aches and pains,
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  Speaker 3: they're anxious, and they're using cannabis and we just need
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  Speaker 3: to educate them how to use it safely and effectively.
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  Speaker 3: We can alleviate a lot of suffering with cannabis.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting you say that because we have tried to do
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  Speaker 1: that my wife and because she can't sleep at night,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, she's tired of the melatonin and she
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know what went wrong because I am
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  Speaker 1: not an expert. I've never done cannabis. And she takes
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  Speaker 1: one hit and says I'm done. And I said, whoa
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  Speaker 1: wait a second, you just spent a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: on the cannabis. What are you doing? And so, but
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  Speaker 1: why is it that people are so uneducated and yet dude,
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  Speaker 1: it's been around in the headlines, and we've been hippified
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  Speaker 1: all the way back to the sixties.
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  Speaker 2: Well technically it's been around for five thousand years, and
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  Speaker 2: things need to get.
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  Speaker 3: In early China, like twy five hundred yar people have
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  Speaker 3: been using it for medicine for a long time. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, the War on Drugs needed cannabis to be
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  Speaker 3: bad because they were trying to persecute drug users. They
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  Speaker 3: arrested for cannabis, more than twenty million people, mostly with
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  Speaker 3: black and brown skin, just for cannabis possession.
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  Speaker 2: It was an awful disaster, unethical.
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  Speaker 3: And now society's really swung back to where it used
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  Speaker 3: to be in this understanding that cannabis is a helpful medicine.
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  Speaker 3: It was a legal medicine in the early nineteen hundreds
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  Speaker 3: and doctors, most of them unfortunately, went along with the
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  Speaker 3: War on drugs and learned nothing helpful about cannabis. So
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  Speaker 3: now they're becoming more in favor of it, but they've
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  Speaker 3: never been educated on anything helpful about cannabis, so they
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  Speaker 3: don't know how to educate their patients and how to
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  Speaker 3: use cannabis safely and effectively. And that's why we need
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  Speaker 3: a book like mine. I mean, patients don't have a
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  Speaker 3: good resource.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I wish I would have had your book back
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  Speaker 1: in September of this past year, because that was when
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  Speaker 1: I discovered this thing called it was THHC in liquid form.
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  Speaker 1: It was infused, And I got to tell you something
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  Speaker 1: I know, and I know doctors are are they they
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  Speaker 1: They they're clinically they had they can't really support or
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  Speaker 1: they can't really say something. But I'm going to say it.
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  Speaker 1: I went from six to eight shots of one hundred
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  Speaker 1: proof vodka a day to now I don't do any
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  Speaker 1: because I do one shot of the infused cannabis. That's
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  Speaker 1: how much it changed my life, doctor, And that's why
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you today because I know
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  Speaker 1: how much my life has changed because of it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, congratulations. Second of all, I'm really
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  Speaker 3: happy to hear it. Third of all, that's not an
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  Speaker 3: uncommon story at all. Well, it helped, well, I've helped
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people off alcohol with cannabis. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: alcohol contributed to one hundred and seventy eight thousand deaths
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, and now we think it's carcinogenic
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  Speaker 3: and cannabis you know, you could use it in a
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  Speaker 3: more or less safe and healthy way, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: kill people, so it's definitely harm reduction, which is a
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  Speaker 3: big win at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: Demystifying medical cannabis because people go, oh, you're one of them.
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  Speaker 1: Huh stop, Well, I'm not one of them. Don't don't
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  Speaker 1: chastise me because I'm trying to find peace in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: body and soul. How can we just make it more
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  Speaker 1: open and less judgmental?
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  Speaker 3: Well, making it legal helps, Educating doctors helps, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: providing good neutral information. I mean, there are a lot
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  Speaker 3: of anti cannabis doctors and other people, law enforcement, they
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  Speaker 3: want to make money arresting people whatever. There are a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people that are so pro cannabis they think
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  Speaker 3: it cures everything. But we just need resources in the
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  Speaker 3: middle that give people like credible, digestible information. And the
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  Speaker 3: more people use cannabis, the less stigma there is.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, most people support medical marijuana.
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  Speaker 3: But ninety percent of people believe in the legal access
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  Speaker 3: to medical marijuana.
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  Speaker 2: So we are getting there.
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  Speaker 1: How is the future going to change? When it comes
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  Speaker 1: to one minute, you're on one minute we're not legal,
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  Speaker 1: then we're on, then we're not legal I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: feels like we're going through prohibition, and is that what
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  Speaker 1: the situation is here, is that we don't see this
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  Speaker 1: side of when prohibition finally just kind of fell apart.
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  Speaker 1: We just think that, oh, they just stopped one day.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it just stopped one day.
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  Speaker 3: Well, prohibition of alcohol was a disaster, and probition of
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  Speaker 3: cannabis is a disaster as well.
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  Speaker 2: We're winning.
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  Speaker 3: It's now legal in forty states for medical purposes and
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  Speaker 3: in twenty four soon probably New Hampshire and Pennsylvania twenty
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  Speaker 3: four right now for recreational use. More than half of
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  Speaker 3: the Americans live in a state where they could recreationally
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  Speaker 3: use cannabis.
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  Speaker 2: So we're getting there.
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  Speaker 3: But keep in mind that he may go a lot
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  Speaker 3: of money on prohibition, private prisons, all that nonsense. Tobacco
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  Speaker 3: and alcohol don't want them competition, The pharmaceutical companies don't
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  Speaker 3: want the competition. Nobody can make money from cannabis because
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  Speaker 3: people can just grow it in their backyard. So there
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  Speaker 3: are a lot of financial interests against legalizing. But we
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  Speaker 3: are getting there. Look at where we were twenty five
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  Speaker 3: years ago. It wasn't legal anywhere. Now, it's legal in
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  Speaker 3: forty states medically, so we're on the right path.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. We'll be right back with doctor
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  Speaker 1: Peter Grinspoon coming up next. Aging Well with Cannabis. That's
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  Speaker 1: the name of the book from doctor Peter Grinspoon. I
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  Speaker 1: guess what really really caught my attention and I kind
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  Speaker 1: of chuckled about it, is that it really does it
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  Speaker 1: works on the aging process? Is it because when the
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  Speaker 1: body is feeling better and greater, it can stay strong
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  Speaker 1: and keep moving forward, and it gives you reason to
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  Speaker 1: see the future and not just get settled in your past.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yes, number one, we need more research on this, yes,
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  Speaker 3: But number two, your natural cannabinoids tend to go down
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  Speaker 3: as you age, and there's some thought that we're sort
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  Speaker 3: of just restoring the natural tone of cannabis in your brain,
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  Speaker 3: so with natural cannabis receptors in our brain with external cannabis,
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  Speaker 3: so it can help some things in the aging process.
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  Speaker 2: But number three, aging means.
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  Speaker 3: To increase in symptoms. And the more you can control
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  Speaker 3: the symptoms like pain, anxiety, insomnia, depression, the more people
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  Speaker 3: can go out and enjoy their basic activities that keep
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  Speaker 3: them socialized.
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  Speaker 2: And happy.
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  Speaker 3: So cannabis can help people get into a positive feedback
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  Speaker 3: loop because it alleviates symptoms.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you talk about cannabis being science, help me in here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is this biology science? What kind of science
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  Speaker 1: are we talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Well, definitely biology science to see you know, it can
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  Speaker 3: be addictive.
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  Speaker 2: How to prevent that? Definitely?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, anything that causes euphoria and relaxation can
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  Speaker 3: be addictive. It's not as addictive as opiates, methamphetamine, cocaine, alcohol,
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  Speaker 3: or tobacco, but it can be addictive. So there's neuroscience research,
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  Speaker 3: and there's the pharmacological research, like what are the doses?
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  Speaker 2: How do we keep people? You know, if you kick
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  Speaker 2: too much, it feels awful.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever had the experience of
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  Speaker 3: taking too much cannabis, but it feels terrible.
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  Speaker 2: How do we give people the right dose? What are
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  Speaker 2: the right formulations? So there's research across the spectrum that
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  Speaker 2: we need to do.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, a lot of the research was prevented by the
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  Speaker 3: War on drugs because the government only funded studies to
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  Speaker 3: find harms with cannabis. So we're really behind the eight
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  Speaker 3: ball in terms of studying how to use cannabis beneficially,
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  Speaker 3: which is why the patients are so far ahead of
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  Speaker 3: the doctors, because they're just like experiencing in it and
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  Speaker 3: benefiting from it. And it's just a strange thing where
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  Speaker 3: the patients are ahead of the medical community and doctors
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  Speaker 3: need to be humble and open minded and listen to
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  Speaker 3: their patients. I mean, what a radical concept that doctors
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  Speaker 3: should actually listen to their patients about their experiences.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you one of the things that I love,
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  Speaker 1: and I want this book inside every one of these
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  Speaker 1: little places where we go to get our cannabis and
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  Speaker 1: these little stores. It needs to be in there because
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  Speaker 1: we need this kind of education and leadership because so
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  Speaker 1: many people are walking in there on educated they don't
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  Speaker 1: know what they're buying, and they're relying on a salesperson
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  Speaker 1: to give it to them. I want your book in
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  Speaker 1: there so that they can get the right stuff and
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  Speaker 1: get the right experience.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so do I this part of why I wrote it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the butt tenders who work behind the counter
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  Speaker 3: of the dispensaries are the nicest people in the world.
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  Speaker 3: If they're just not medically trained or educated. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: the advice tends to be like, Oh, you have a migraine.
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  Speaker 2: My cousin had a.
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  Speaker 3: Migraine at a Dead concert six years ago and took
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  Speaker 3: this type of cannabis, So why don't you try it?
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  Speaker 3: And I think we could do a lot better if
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  Speaker 3: the medical professionals.
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  Speaker 2: Could be advising patients.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, where can people go to find out more about you? Doctor?
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  Speaker 1: Because ten minutes with you is never going to be enough.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got the experience, you've got a book.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're going to be going out and speaking
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  Speaker 1: to or we need to know where you are.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's easy to find me.
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  Speaker 3: It's just my first name and my last name at
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  Speaker 3: www Dot Petergrinspoon dot com. And Grinspoon is grinlike smile,
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  Speaker 3: spoon like fork, g r I N S p O
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  Speaker 3: O N. So I'm easily findable and you can contact me.
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  Speaker 3: There's a contact button at www Dot Petergrinspoon dot com.
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  Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show anytime in
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  Speaker 1: the future. This is really right up my alley because
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  Speaker 1: I believe in educating all people, not only here in
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  Speaker 1: the States but around the world.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I am.
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  Speaker 3: Happy to I really enjoyed this conversation, as you might
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  Speaker 3: imagine this is one of my favorite topics.
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy to come on anytime.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
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  Speaker 2: Okay doctor, thank you so much. I hope you have
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  Speaker 2: an excellent day as well.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you