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255: Scrooged It · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 2: And we're back with another festive life day episode. I'm
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  Speaker 2: claiming that one. Everybody else gets nitpicky over what holiday
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  Speaker 2: it is or what they want or they don't like.
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  Speaker 3: Festivus.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody hates that day.
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  Speaker 4: You take me higher than the lights up in this country.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what I do? Starship? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Jefferson. Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: You notice how Grace Slick quit that band before they
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  Speaker 4: the Star Wars special.
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  Speaker 2: Conveniently.
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  Speaker 4: It's like she knew, you know?
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  Speaker 2: She saw it coming. She was just like, I'm out
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  Speaker 2: of here, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Textbook slick maneuver.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man. Yeah, but she came back for
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  Speaker 2: We Built This City.
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  Speaker 10: I know.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. No.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think is more embarrassing? We Built This
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  Speaker 4: City on rock and roll or the Star Wars Christmas special?
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  Speaker 9: That's the one with the Wookiee family in it.
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  Speaker 14: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That was last year's holiday special.
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  Speaker 4: But Jefferson Starship was in that show.
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  Speaker 2: Starship. Jefferson no longer claimed them at that point.
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  Speaker 4: Were they Starship or were they Jefferson Starship?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. No, they were Jefferson Starship then, before
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  Speaker 2: they became Starship. And then she came back. None of
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  Speaker 2: this makes any sense. Yeah, I'm confused.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, Starship was in the Star Wars special. So
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  Speaker 4: which are they more embarrassed about?
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  Speaker 2: To me, when I listen to it now, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I recognized it quite so much years ago,
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  Speaker 2: but now when I hear we built this city... it's
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  Speaker 2: painful like it's so and do you know who wrote
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  Speaker 2: that like i didn't know that for years of hearing
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  Speaker 2: it i had no idea and now i question him
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  Speaker 2: as a songwriter because bernie toppen.
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  Speaker 4: I had a feeling yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But usually to me i felt like that was the
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  Speaker 2: low end of the scale like he was writing the
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  Speaker 2: good lyrics and elton just sort of showed up and
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  Speaker 2: played some music but No, it kind of ruined that
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  Speaker 2: whole scale. Well, you know, everyone has bad stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I love Paul McCartney. I hate his Christmas songs.
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  Speaker 2: They should be.
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  Speaker 1: I just like the way he would write about mythical,
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  Speaker 1: non-existent pop music that never existed. And he would write
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  Speaker 1: some elegy for something that didn't exist, like Crocodile Rock.
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck was that? Benny and the Jets? What
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  Speaker 1: is he talking about?
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's remembering something that didn't happen, kind of like
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  Speaker 4: you in movies from the 70s.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I found it charming. Those are my
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  Speaker 1: favorite songs of his. It's like, make something up and
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  Speaker 1: feel nostalgic for it.
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  Speaker 3: That's great.
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  Speaker 2: We're all in with that.
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  Speaker 4: It's like you in book reports when you were a kid.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, actually, I mean, I.
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  Speaker 3: This is like the foundation for your whole life.
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  Speaker 1: Bernie Taupin is my pen name.
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  Speaker 2: We need to talk about that one time. I built
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  Speaker 2: a city on rock and roll.
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  Speaker 15: I did.
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  Speaker 16: Call this episode fred rocks at the end i don't
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  Speaker 16: think you would feel separate embarrassment for those different things
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  Speaker 16: that you could measure against each other i think it's
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  Speaker 16: more like compound interests.
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  Speaker 4: It is kind of interesting though that they were directly
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  Speaker 4: related with the two kind of most cited embarrassing moments
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  Speaker 4: in pop history or culture or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about nomio and julie Because I still think
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  Speaker 2: that may be his greatest.
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  Speaker 4: Was Starship in that?
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  Speaker 2: Elton John? Not only did he record the soundtrack, he
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  Speaker 2: produced that film.
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  Speaker 14: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: He did? Elton John?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny. Deal with that. Take me to the pilot?
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  Speaker 2: Elton John did that? I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: As a topic, we should do what careers can survive.
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  Speaker 1: Because there are some things you just watch and you go,
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  Speaker 1: And people kept hiring them after that.
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  Speaker 17: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like dancing in the street.
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  Speaker 9: I tried to convince my boyfriend that we should dress
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  Speaker 9: up like Jagger and Boba Boy.
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  Speaker 2: And no one would get it. I don't care. I
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  Speaker 2: just want to live that fantasy. They might get both.
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  Speaker 4: That's interesting. Like, you're so untouchable that you can fail
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  Speaker 4: and still go on.
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  Speaker 15: Massively.
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  Speaker 2: Woman pants. Seatbelt. Weird.
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  Speaker 1: I remember when I watched the movie Candy, I thought,
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  Speaker 1: Marlon Brando. And people walked away from this.
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  Speaker 18: That actually ruined a lot of careers.
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  Speaker 2: Shouldn't it?
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, Richard Burton should have gone. Well, I guess he did.
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  Speaker 1: It was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Was Ringo Starr in that?
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  Speaker 19: He was.
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  Speaker 18: He played the Mexican gardener.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's funny.
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  Speaker 3: Naturally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, naturally. That's fine casting right there.
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  Speaker 1: That's high casting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: It's like Andy Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's.
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  Speaker 18: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: That should have broke a lot of stuff. That should
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  Speaker 2: have broke the country. The film system. The film industry.
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  Speaker 4: What year was that made?
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  Speaker 1: 1997.
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  Speaker 3: Something like that.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think it was earlier. I think it was earlier.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was earlier.
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  Speaker 2: Why is that so funny? Because it's true.
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  Speaker 3: Ironically, it's probably the same time the song was made
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  Speaker 3: about that. I think it's where I'm getting it mixed up.
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  Speaker 18: A lot of hedgehogs as a youth.
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  Speaker 1: No, seriously, that topic, what careers have survived, that's... My.
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  Speaker 9: Career is not going to survive this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I think that needs to happen. We will take note
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  Speaker 2: of that.
• 8:17
  Speaker 18: When are we going to do a show about the E.T.
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  Speaker 2: Pornography from Turkey? You're in charge of organizing. All right.
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  Speaker 2: You guys know about that one?
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  Speaker 20: No.
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  Speaker 1: No, but I assumed that it would be there.
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  Speaker 2: It's Turkish.
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  Speaker 9: I love anything from, like, that region.
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  Speaker 2: Or Russia. Like, anything is just so crazy. So crazy.
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  Speaker 9: So, like, it was this porn surface, and it was E.T., which, like,
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  Speaker 9: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Like, out of all the films in the 80s, to
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  Speaker 2: make a... Like Spielberg and E.T.? Right.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 18: To make a porn theme from, I just.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if his neck did that, you can only imagine
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  Speaker 4: what his other bits did.
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  Speaker 9: It was a woman, and she was dressed, and it
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  Speaker 9: looked like she was covered in baked feces as E.T.
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  Speaker 9: That's what you're looking for.
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  Speaker 2: I've only seen stills.
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  Speaker 9: I want so bad. She had that freaking finger, too,
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  Speaker 9: that little ouch thing.
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  Speaker 3: I just, man.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe I should find this. We should all watch
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  Speaker 2: it and talk about it.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You start working on that.
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  Speaker 15: All right. All right.
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  Speaker 4: Only from Atari.
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  Speaker 12: Made especially for systems from Atari.
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  Speaker 5: The video game that lets you help E.T.
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  Speaker 12: Get home.
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  Speaker 2: Just in time for Christmas.
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  Speaker 4: Happy Holidays from Atari.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was super pumped about Christmas until my
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  Speaker 3: dog ate, like, all those salt dough ornaments that I had, like,
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  Speaker 3: painstakingly made.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, the ones you posted?
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  Speaker 2: All of them.
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  Speaker 12: All of them?
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  Speaker 1: They must have been good.
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  Speaker 3: They were covered in glitter, so... Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I overheard that a minute ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. My entire kitchen floor was covered in puke. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: my entire kitchen floor was covered in dunk.
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  Speaker 18: The glittery puke.
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  Speaker 2: Glittery puke. Festive.
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  Speaker 1: You never get rid of the glitter.
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  Speaker 14: No.
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  Speaker 1: After your kids go through glitter years at school.
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  Speaker 3: They're like.
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  Speaker 1: projects, years later I'll be at work and a teamster
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  Speaker 1: tells me, you're wearing glitter on your hands. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I do that.
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  Speaker 2: Scrippers and kids, that's where you.
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  Speaker 3: Run into that. I mop the floor like two times
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  Speaker 3: a day just because she's always like, throwing up just
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  Speaker 3: a little bit here and there, or she'll pee on
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  Speaker 3: the floor or something and track it all over. So
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  Speaker 3: I hop the floor like three times a day, and
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  Speaker 3: there's still glitter on the floor. It's just stuck there forever.
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  Speaker 15: Jeez.
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  Speaker 3: It's horrible.
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  Speaker 1: You never get rid of glitter.
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  Speaker 3: You don't.
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  Speaker 12: It's true.
• 10:37
  Speaker 18: I was going to make a Mariah Carey joke, but
• 10:38
  Speaker 18: I just went nowhere.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: I think we all got it.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: Sometimes just saying there's a joke in there.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Everybody finishes it for you. It's cool.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: Everybody has their own timing.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: And then it becomes hilarious.
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  Speaker 19: Lollipop Bling from the Mariah Carey Fragrance Collection, Island Records,
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  Speaker 19: and Elizabeth Arden present the Mariah.
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  Speaker 4: Carey Christmas Spectacular.
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  Speaker 19: Now you are in for a wonderful treat this evening
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  Speaker 19: because she is here to sing her latest hit, Oh Santa. So,
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  Speaker 19: ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to introduce the incredible,
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  Speaker 19: the incomparable, Miss Mariah Carey!
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  Speaker 21: Oh, Santa's gonna come and make you mine this Christmas
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  Speaker 21: Santa's gonna come and make you mine, mine.
• 11:30
  Speaker 6: Oh, Santa's gonna come and make.
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  Speaker 21: You mine this Christmas Santa's gonna come and make you mine,
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  Speaker 21: mine Santa, if you give this letter, won't you help me?
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  Speaker 21: But you're elsewhere now And I don't know how Good
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  Speaker 21: that you do wanna sleep on Christmas Eve But it's
• 11:48
  Speaker 21: amazing Every time I see Christmas lights, I feel this
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  Speaker 21: blood inside.
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  Speaker 1: And I just can't take it.
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  Speaker 21: I saw them shopping last week and his new girl
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  Speaker 21: was so weak.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: And then I.
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  Speaker 21: Swore to myself, Santa's gonna come and make you mine
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  Speaker 21: this Christmas night.
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  Speaker 4: Santa's gonna come and.
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  Speaker 6: Make you mine this Christmas night.
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  Speaker 4: Christmas is full of holiday cheer.
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  Speaker 22: This holiday season, join Hercules on a mission to spread
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  Speaker 22: the spirit of Christmas and to save one boy from
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  Speaker 22: being added to Santa's permanent naughty list.
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  Speaker 4: May the curse of the gods be upon you.
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  Speaker 5: May the hatred of men persecute.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: You until you have paid for the blood of a thief.
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  Speaker 22: Fetch the spirit of Christmas and treat yourself to a
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  Speaker 22: real adventure in this heartfelt, fun-filled movie special.
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  Speaker 5: If you will join me in the conquest of the world,
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  Speaker 5: all mankind will recognize me as their queen and adore
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  Speaker 5: you as their one and only God. Love me, Hercules,
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  Speaker 5: and together we shall reign over.
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  Speaker 13: Men and gods.
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  Speaker 22: Hercules Saves Christmas Coming this holiday season.
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: Dave, I do not get superheroes.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't get you.
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: What don't you get?
• 13:15
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  Speaker 12: Then this started. Well, it's up to you. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 12: It's knock time.
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  Speaker 5: Greetings to Father, who works all year for the family
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  Speaker 5: and outdoes himself at this joyous season with lots of
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: surprises for everyone. Greetings to Mother, that miracle worker of
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: the home whose loving efforts seem sometimes like magic. And
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: greetings to little brother, usually a terror, but somehow since
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  Speaker 5: he visited Santa at the department store, he's not been
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  Speaker 5: himself at all. Greetings to sister, who was so busy
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: decorating the house with mistletoe and then seemed to forget
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  Speaker 5: it was there. Greetings to grandma, grandpa, and all your
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  Speaker 5: uncles and aunts. May you gather around the table for
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  Speaker 5: your Christmas feast in the joyous tradition. What we want
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  Speaker 5: good health, good times, and a very Merry Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: A high school girl's been murdered.
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  Speaker 13: Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Harrison's daughter is missing.
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  Speaker 3: And now at the house where she lives, the other
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: girls are getting obscene phone calls.
• 15:25
  Speaker 11: Looking for that moment when there's.
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  Speaker 3: Peace on earth, goodwill to men in the ghetto.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: In the ghetto. Merry Christmas.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I'm listening to Movie Meltdown because I'm John Saxon and
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I like to do that.
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: In the ghetto.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: It's time for Sofa Theater.
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  Speaker 19: Seven o'clock, psychos see Santa's workshop and only Lee Majors
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  Speaker 19: can stop them.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: In the night the reindeer die, be here.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: You can't show that commercial.
• 16:16
  Speaker 11: That thing looks like the Manson family Christmas special.
• 16:19
  Speaker 14: Think I'm way off base?
• 16:20
  Speaker 18: Yes, you're, well, you're dead off base, sir.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Frank Cross is more than the youngest network president in
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: television history.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Call security, have them change his locks, and toss.
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  Speaker 13: Him out of the building.
• 16:31
  Speaker 15: Oh, he's fired?
• 16:32
  Speaker 12: That's Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Call the county.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Stop his bonus.
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  Speaker 5: I'll watch you out.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: He's a thoughtful boss.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Thanks, boys. Get the nurse. A generous brother. What did
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  Speaker 2: he give you last year?
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 12: A show.
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  Speaker 1: A curtain.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I think you dropped something here.
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  Speaker 4: And a true humanitarian.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I can't get the antlers glued onto this little guy.
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  Speaker 4: We tried crazy glue. Maybe tried staples. But his life
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  Speaker 4: is about to change. That was a good one.
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  Speaker 5: You are going to be visited by three ghosts tomorrow
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  Speaker 5: at noon.
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  Speaker 4: Tomorrow's bad for me, Lou. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 4: the whole rest of.
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  Speaker 1: The week is a washout now.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Anyone who thinks he hates Christmas is wrong.
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  Speaker 6: Come back to Jersey, you moron!
• 17:23
  Speaker 21: It's ghosts he hates.
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  Speaker 12: I love that bit!
• 17:35
  Speaker 11: I'm the ghost of Christmas present.
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  Speaker 4: Bill Murray. Karen Allen.
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  Speaker 1: You sounded like you'd seen a ghost.
• 17:48
  Speaker 12: A ghost?
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  Speaker 4: John Forsythe. Bobcat Goldthwait.
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  Speaker 13: Hey!
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  Speaker 2: You going to see me or is this a shotgun
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  Speaker 2: in your pocket?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: You know this one?
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  Speaker 21: Everybody knows this one.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go now. Now does everybody know this one? Carol Kane.
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  Speaker 4: Robert Mitchum.
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  Speaker 2: I really care!
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  Speaker 4: David Johansson. Oh, I'm having the weirdest day! This holiday season,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: see Bill Murray get screwed. Hey, back off, big man.
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  Speaker 4: I may work with the chicks, but not with me.
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  Speaker 3: When I was a boy, I.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Never played with toys.
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  Speaker 10: Never had a friend, never laughed or cried much.
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  Speaker 18: And when I was a boy, my father was a man.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: With a strict and sturdy hand, no soft touch.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Make that money. Make that money.
• 18:51
  Speaker 18: Make that money run like honey on your tongue.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Gotta make that money.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Make that money.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Listen to some advertising before you're stung.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Now that I'm a man, every penny has been clad.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: I am.
• 19:08
  Speaker 11: Financially grand and I'm perfectly greedy.
• 19:19
  Speaker 18: Sentimental fools.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I make all your rules.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: I've got your cash, your jewels.
• 19:28
  Speaker 12: They're a whole mortgage to me. Make that money.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: Make that money. Make that money.
• 19:34
  Speaker 13: From the money on your tongue.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: Come make that money.
• 19:41
  Speaker 15: Make that money.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: Listen, sonny, learn to sing.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Before you're stoned.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I know cause he told me so.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Told me so and I believe.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: It But people, elves are living in it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: And if you ask them.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Why they believe in it, it's kind of like they
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: don't really, but they do because they think it's.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Nice to believe in stuff like that. It's called Santa Claus.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: You know, my completely mentally insane former roommate, he had
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: a thing like that, but I don't know if he
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: was serious or not. There was this really cool sewing
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: table in the garage, and he's like, I kind of
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: want to bring that inside, but I'm afraid I'm going
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: to wake up and there's going to be an evil
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: old lady hovering above my bed with needles for fingers.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I've seen that Japanese movie.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was dark and we were standing in the driveway,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm going to go look at it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: He's like, don't go in there. It's scary. And I
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: was like, I'm not afraid of anything. And a bat?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: The bat was.
• 20:48
  Speaker 23: Living in the garage and I didn't know this and
• 20:50
  Speaker 23: it flew and hit me in the head and I'm
• 20:53
  Speaker 23: like fuck fuck fuck I'm afraid of bats I'm afraid
• 20:56
  Speaker 23: of bats I'm afraid of bats so I like immediately
• 20:58
  Speaker 23: had to retract like what I just said about not
• 21:00
  Speaker 23: being afraid.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Of anything yeah the real apex of that story was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not afraid.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Of anything and then a bat you could have only
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: topped it with I'll be right back and then a
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: bat and then a bat a novel a novel And
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: then a Louisville Slugger came upside my head. And either way,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: it's not a good story.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, like, I was trying to tell my friend. Oh,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: she's sweet, but she's not very smart. And she was like,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: who hit you with a bat?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: And I was like, no.
• 21:30
  Speaker 13: Exactly.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: You're like, it's okay.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I took care of him. Don't you worry. Motherfuckers coming
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: at me with a bat. It's the last time.
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: Sometimes you have to slap them in the face just.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: To get their attention.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: All right. We are back into the sofa theater here.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And this week's over the air feature is Scrooged. The
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: year is 1988. The director, Richard Donner. The plot, according
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to IMDb. A cynically selfish TV executive gets haunted by
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: three spirits bearing lessons on Christmas Eve. Spoiler alert. You've
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: never seen this story, so we don't want to ruin
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: it for you. It's unfamiliar territory. You really just better
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: go watch the movie. All right. Where would you like
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: to begin with Scrooge?
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I just want to say, like, I love Bill Murray.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I think he's a fantastic actor. But Bill Murray trying
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: to play a mean person is just... It doesn't work.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't work. Not even a little bit. He's, like,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: trying to be a dick all the time. And it's just, like, you're...
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: You just... You just like laugh and walk away.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: You know what equally doesn't work is him trying to
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: play a reformed dick at the very end when he's
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: doing that big soliloquy for 20 minutes talking about the
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: miracle and all that.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Was it only 20 minutes?
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I mean the acting.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Well, you got the extended cut.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: His acting was just like so bad. It was like
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: so bad that it like hurt my feelings deep inside.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Deep.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: The special feelings that I have for Bill Murray.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Do you find him sexy?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: No.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: No, actually, except for once. I think it was last
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: year he did GQ magazine or some men's magazine, and
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: he looked adorable.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: But that's now. But back then.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: No.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, no.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I've always wondered if Bill Murray sort of represents a
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: double standard. He can be a movie star. He can
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: headline a movie. He can bring it in because he's funny.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: He's not sexy. No. With women comedians, it seems like
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: women have to be pretty and funny. They can't just
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: be funny, whereas men can be funny and still headline
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: a movie. Is that a double standard?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like, I mean, there's a lot of funny
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: women comedians that aren't sexy, so.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: But do they headline a movie? Like, can they be
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: the star?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Most women don't get to headline a movie.
• 23:45
  Speaker 18: Ellen DeGeneres and Mr.
• 23:46
  Speaker 15: Wrong.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, like.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: But I think Ellen is very pretty. I mean, like,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: we're talking Murray pretty.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I gotta tell you.
• 23:55
  Speaker 18: I think Bill Murray is sexy.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, alright.
• 23:57
  Speaker 18: And I didn't know he was sexy until later in life.
• 23:59
  Speaker 17: But I was actually having this conversation with my boyfriend
• 24:00
  Speaker 17: fairly recently where he asked, what is charisma? And I
• 24:03
  Speaker 17: was trying to explain what charisma is and how important
• 24:05
  Speaker 17: charisma is in sexual attraction. I think especially, well, with
• 24:10
  Speaker 17: both genders, but I think men can float on charisma
• 24:14
  Speaker 17: maybe more successfully than women in the entertainment industry.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Definitely in movies.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 24:19
  Speaker 17: And it wasn't until this movie where I was like,
• 24:21
  Speaker 17: holy shit, Bill Murray is charisma.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: That is charisma.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: But are there women who.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Can you think of someone who can float on charisma?
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Or do they have to be pretty?
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: Oh, I remember that lovely woman in Misery. She's slamming
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: that sledgehammer into that guy.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I was smitten.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: You consider that charisma. She did it so sexy.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Look how completely adorable Bill Murray is on the cover
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: of this magazine.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: I would slap him. You don't really seem to smile much.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Usually he's like smirking.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: How come Roseanne never did any movies?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, she did. They just weren't successful.
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: She put hairspray in a microwave and turned it on
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: and blew up a house.
• 25:05
  Speaker 15: What?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Was it She-Devil? Yeah, she was in She-Devil. That's the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: way I do it. I've never ever seen any of
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: her movies. Oh, wow. It's so adorable.
• 25:20
  Speaker 17: The other unfair double standard is that men become more attractive.
• 25:23
  Speaker 18: He's much more.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Attractive now than he ever was. He's become like a
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: silver fox.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I think that's for really successful men. But most ordinary
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: men have a period when they're a certain age where
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: they have charisma and they don't know why. And they
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: don't know where it goes. I've talked to a lot
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: of guys who went through this. It's like they go
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: through this period where for about a year, they're interesting
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to women. And women want to be around them. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: they're like, what the fuck?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I know several people.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: That's how I got this.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: And then it wore off. I'm still waiting.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Like the couple of maybe two or three times in
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: my life, when a woman has clearly tried to pick
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: me up, I was wearing the same shirt each time.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Same shirt.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: It's like a superstition, right?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And later I realized I had this red shirt, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: whenever I wore it the three times, and I told
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Lynn about it, and I've never seen that fucking shirt again.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I know I've mentioned this before,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: but the one time in my life that I was
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: hit on and checked out nonstop.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: You were wearing a red shirt?
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I was dressed like Pee Wee Herman.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: What? Well, there you go. Yeah, that works for me, too.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: After I lost the red shirt, I started going that way.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Was this the same time I saw you, or was
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: this another time you were dressed up like you?
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: It was the same time.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Because given you, it could be one of many times.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: You know, it was like your magic, it was the
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: equivalent of Frosty's hat. That was your red shirt.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: You put it on, and suddenly, happy birthday, I'm adorable.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I was telling my neighbor about that once, and he
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: was like, Actually, no, a woman's never tried to pick me.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: That's never happened to me. And I'm like, that's weird.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: You're a better looking guy than me.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: He's like, I know. Okay, that's the thing, Fred. If
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you are at a certain, if.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I think as a guy, if you are at a certain,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: you know, attractiveness level, you don't go through your... Charismatic period.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: You know, you're just always coasting on your good looks.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Which is most Hollywood stars, you know?
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: But, you know, that's like the pretty people. They never
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: have to deal with that. But, you know, guys down
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: in the trenches like me, it's like, oh, I'm feeling
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: my month of charisma coming on.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've got to take advantage of this.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I don't really care about attractive guys that much, but
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: like funny guys on the other hand?
• 28:00
  Speaker 17: Mm-hmm.
• 28:01
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I agree.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: And angsty guys.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Angsty guys that hate women.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Angsty sexuals.
• 28:07
  Speaker 18: That write, like, hundreds of books and don't publish them.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Somebody on a government list somewhere is what you're saying.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And hate you too.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: So anyway, but Murray.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I find that irresistible.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: See, I think this is a very, like, interesting period
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: in bill murray's career like he has this weird span
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and if you look at his old roles he's he's
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: he's just doing the bill murray thing yeah and like
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: he's he does it and it's just there's a time
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: specific comedic little points and he does it when it's
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: right and this is that period right in the middle
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: there where he first well he did there is the
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: weird razor's edge thing which we almost need to come
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: back to because that's like almost in its own universe
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: But then it's like, this is the point where he
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: started kind of, and I heard he actually like took
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: a break and went like to Europe and started like
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: studying acting and like legitimately tried to take himself seriously
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: as an actor and not just, you know, be goofy
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: like he did, you know, SNL style. So this may
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: be around that time because this is like that dividing line.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I feel like it was like this. And then when
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: he gets.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: To Ghostbusters 2.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Not the one I'm thinking of.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Groundhog's Day. When he gets to Groundhog's Day. There's a
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: lot of range in Groundhog's Day. I mean, it's because
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: it fits the story. That's pretty amazing.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: He's still doing his thing. He is.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And he finds a way. I think that I think
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: it's in this too. And I think that's just the
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: way I took it. And you guys seem to have
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: a very different take on it. Well, I feel like
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: he's he's this is possibly one of the most Bill
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Murray movies ever.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Every line in it feels like he ad-libbed it. Like,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: everything he says feels like it's him. Yeah.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: It just felt like he was just making shit up
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: and just, like, coming.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And shooting in front of him. Which he kind of does.
• 30:00
  Speaker 12: Which really, yeah.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I kind of think it was interesting that Bobcat was
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: in this, too, because there was that time, like you said,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: where Bill Murray wasn't playing characters. He was just playing
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Bill Murray. But Bobcat was also just playing Bob, Bobcat,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: in every movie.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Because he wanted to.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: And Murray kind of went to different places with his acting,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: and Bobcat didn't.
• 30:18
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Although I think Bobcat's really interesting now. I was strangely.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Attracted to Bobcat in this movie. Bobcat never meant to
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: do that. He just got painted in that corner.
• 30:27
  Speaker 17: Right.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: And he couldn't break it out.
• 30:30
  Speaker 17: I think his movie's actually filled with dudes that are
• 30:32
  Speaker 17: not attractive conventionally but are amazingly charismatic. And I think
• 30:35
  Speaker 17: Buster Poindexter is like the epitome of that. And I
• 30:39
  Speaker 17: also was thinking watching that that like, oh, Tom Waits
• 30:41
  Speaker 17: could have played that role too.
• 30:42
  Speaker 18: Like, I wonder how many different people they withdrew.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Before they landed on the movie. Sam Kenison was supposed
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to play that part.
• 30:47
  Speaker 15: Really?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Sam Kinison.
• 30:49
  Speaker 18: An unattractive but charismatic man who got along with ladies.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: He would not have got along with Bobcat. They didn't
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: like each other because they both got confused with each
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: other a lot.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I confused them.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was Bobcat, although I also Google
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Sam Kinison as a backup. But there was an SNL
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: short video about how they got into comedy. I think
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: it was Bobcat, and it was really a nice little film,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: but I can't find it now. It was about being
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: on the speech team in high school, and he had
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: his set speeches. He was the king of the speech team,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and he was like, imagine a world without zinc.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Pretty scary, isn't it?
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: And then some new kid comes to school, and she
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: gets up and talks about growing up in the ghetto
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: with her mama, and he's like, I can't talk. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: can't go up and talk about zinc now.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: What am I going to do?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And so he just gets up and starts talking about
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: his family and stuff, and that's how he got into comedy.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was Bobcat, but I can't find
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the video anywhere.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, I've always, not anymore, but when I was
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: a kid, for some reason up until the time I
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: was like eight years old, I could not tell the
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: difference between Bill Murray and Jim Belushi. I don't know why.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know why. There's like, I know there's like
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: no similarities, but like, Oh.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: That's like the Paxton Pullman failure.
• 32:16
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: That's when you can't tell Bill Paxton.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I don't get that either. Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I don't get that. It's a condition that affects many Americans.
• 32:27
  Speaker 18: I can't tell Bill Pullman from Jeff Daniels.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Well, see, that's another one. Yeah. Uh, That one is...
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's actually in the manual disorders yet.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: It's a new fundraiser we're starting.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: You know, this was actually the first time I ever
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: saw this movie. It's a whole different perspective.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: It's amazing how quickly something dates.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And, like, I was.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: I completely forgot about the concept of the solid gold dancers.
• 32:57
  Speaker 18: But you were happy to be reminded.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: In a weird way.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: And the thing is, I remember they were a big deal,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: but I can't remember why. Was it because of their
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: outfits or were they actually really good dancers?
• 33:08
  Speaker 18: I think it was the whole package.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I think it was the solid gold.
• 33:12
  Speaker 14: Sometimes.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: And there were.
• 33:13
  Speaker 18: Only three channels on the television.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you could see the nipples, too.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I was kind of wanting Madam to pop up, you know,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: but she didn't. The little Madam puppet. Remember her? You
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: don't remember her?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: You are having flashbacks now. On Solid Gold? Yeah, on
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Solid Gold.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: There was a guy who did a puppet who looked
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: like Lady Elaine Fairchild from Mr.
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: Rogers.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: And she was this sassy, brassy, old lady puppet. And
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: she was kind of the equivalent of Triumph, the insult
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: comedy dog, only in the 80s on Solid Gold. Kids,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: go to YouTube. Solid Gold, madam. This is your homework tonight, Lucy.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: This needs to happen. I need to see weird.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Punch and Judy puppets.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: It's totally, exactly, a Punch and Judy puppet. And she
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: had a big red nose.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Does anyone watch Game of Thrones?
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, have you ever noticed how much King Joffrey looks
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: like the puppet lady from Mr.
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: Rogers?
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Lady Elaine Fitzgerald. Lady Elaine.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: He looks just like Lady Elaine.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: It grabs me insane. No one else agrees with me.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: And I always thought Lady Elaine was a ruthless tyrant
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: on that show.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: So I totally get it.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Did anybody ever see when REM appeared on Sesame Street?
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they had a puppet standing in for the
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: girl from B-52s.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who had her hair.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: And shiny happy.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: This is scary. That's her. Show Lucy.
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: This is scary.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Lucy. Remember her?
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I do remember her.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I do remember her.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Show the microphone so people can hear.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Bravissimo, Paul.
• 34:50
  Speaker 19: What a beautiful song.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you, madam.
• 34:51
  Speaker 21: You know it should have won an Academy Award.
• 34:54
  Speaker 14: It did win an Academy Award in 1976.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: 1976?
• 34:57
  Speaker 19: I missed it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: Must have been in a coma that year.
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: Well, I have the Oscar at home to prove it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: A little guy there.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, I envy you, Paul.
• 35:07
  Speaker 17: I really do.
• 35:09
  Speaker 12: It was nice to be a winner, you know?
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 35:11
  Speaker 19: But I need an Oscar more than you do.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: No.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: I'd love to have a little naked man right next
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: to my bed every night. Well, what time do I
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: show up at your place? Walk away?
• 35:21
  Speaker 12: Ooh, I wonder what the neighbors would think.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: I don't care what they think.
• 35:25
  Speaker 12: We'll pull the shades.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, forget it.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: If I'm going to have Paul Williams in my bedroom,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: I want everyone to know about it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: She was the puppet who would do wisecracking antics in
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: between the songs. She looks like Phyllis Diller.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: She's supposed to look like Phyllis Diller. Is it Phyllis Diller?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Did Phyllis Diller voice her?
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: But like in between the songs and the dancers dancing,
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: the madam would do wise cracking comments about the topical
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: things of the day.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: The Phyllis Diller you're thinking of was just an actress
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: playing her.
• 35:57
  Speaker 18: I'm really just vexed by this.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: She's holding up a picture of Lady Lane Fairchild and
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Solid Gold's Madam, and they look like separated at birth.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: That's what people do. It's just they use resemblances that
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: people are familiar with. And so that's why so many
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: new actors and actresses look like the old actors and actresses.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: It's part of the process.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Is that why every country singer is tiny and blonde now?
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Because it's just a non-ending sequence of tiny blonde country singers.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: It's amazing.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: They're probably just breeding them on an island somewhere. Like,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 36:43
  Speaker 9: They're actually grafts of Dolly Parton's breast.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Grafts?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Grafts, like grafting skin.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, I get it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Okay. Clooning her.
• 36:51
  Speaker 20: Oh.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I was thinking of a car.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I thought you meant, like with arrows
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: and formula off to the side.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: You can see it reaches a high here and then
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: it sort of descends again.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: But, you know, I was also excited. There were two
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: times I saw a tab soda can.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Twice.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Twice.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: It's a nice thing, man.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I loved tab when I was a kid. I saw
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the tab. I also saw a bottle of Prosecco, I think,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: in the opening scene.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: See, you were talking about how quickly it dates, and
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I think I was going the other way. Like, I
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: hadn't seen this in years, and I'm watching it, and
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like... They were so far ahead of the curve
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: on what they're making fun of on television. You mean
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: like the reality show? Like, it was frightening. I was
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: just like, this was our Bob Goulet's Cajun. I want
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: to see Bob Goulet's Cajun Christmas. I want to see it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: His marketing of their stupid shows is like what's on
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: most of the time now. I'm like, that's real now.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: They're ahead of the curve.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Also, the name of the channel, IBC, isn't that Root Beer?
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Was that... Meant to be a joke, or was it
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: just a coincidence?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I don't think they would have purposefully gone that way.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's great. Because if they had, they would have
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: gone A and W.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I figured they were doing like NBC, IBM, and just
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: sort of jammed them together. Corporate network thing.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: I thought they should have gone with IBS. That would
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: have been really funny. I thought they should have.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Gone with TAB.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I missed everything in the 80s. I didn't like go
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: on the TV or go to movies. I think I
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: saw two movies in the 80s. And so a lot
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: of it is like really strange to me.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Well, this is like later 80s. It's not pure 80s.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like after Ghostbusters and stuff. And I
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: found myself, and I guess I do this a lot now,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: just Trying to place faces in the movie. Immediately I saw, oh,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: that's the guy from the New York Dolls who became
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Buster Poindexter, and that's kind of cool. And I didn't realize,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and you wouldn't think to watch this movie when you
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: see that guy, that it would make a bass player
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: jump out a window, but it did. The bass player
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: from the New York Dolls, when he saw the movie,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: jumped out a window. There's been a lot of bitterness
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: with Buster, who wasn't Buster back then. David. Yeah, David.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And then Cain, Arthur Cain, the bass player, he wasn't
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: doing anything. His career was sort of over and he
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: was really frustrated. And when he saw that movie, it
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: just like, and he jumped out a window, and it
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: messed up the way he talked. Just like, you know, Rocky.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Timmy Rocky.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Is this a real story? It's a real story.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: There's a movie about it called New York Doll. Are
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you sure.
• 39:50
  Speaker 18: A ghost didn't just come and hang him out of
• 39:51
  Speaker 18: a window?
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: No, he popped out.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: It happens.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I saw it one time in a movie.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: When I was watching that movie, I kept thinking that
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Johnny Knoxville looks like a more attractive version of Buster Poindexter.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Slightly. Kind of.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Well, did he clean up his teeth or something? Because
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: that was... That disturbed me. But yeah, there's a documentary
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: about the bass player, because I think there ought to
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: be a documentary just about tragic bass players.
• 40:21
  Speaker 17: I think there should be one about tragic saxophonists, but
• 40:23
  Speaker 17: that's a whole other conversation we can have.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: And later, Morrissey was a fan of the New York Dolls,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: so he got them back together to play in London,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: and I think two days later, Cain... felt like he
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: got the flu and it turned out he had leukemia
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and he died the next day.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: What?
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:45
  Speaker 18: I guess if you're going to die of leukemia, that's
• 40:46
  Speaker 18: kind of the way to go.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah. Um, but yeah, there's a documentary about
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: it called New York doll.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I'll have to look into that.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I was interested in it because I remembered Buster Poindexter
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's that guy. That's so
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: clever just to like do something totally different.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Um, See, his career.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: All these people in that movie, I kept going, that's C.W.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Moss from Bonnie and Clyde.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, that was amazing.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: That was crazy.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Everybody's in there.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: You're bringing up something. Whenever we were watching the movie
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: and we were watching the credits, there's a credit I
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: had never seen before. And it said, celebrity lookalikes provided
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: by Ron Smith's celebrity lookalikes. I was like, who are
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: the lookalikes in this movie?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Bill Murray?
• 41:36
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Maybe.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Was that the real Bill Murray?
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't know Bill Murray was like... I didn't know...
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: They were like the bald.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Ones or something.
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: They've always been in his stuff. It's funny that this one,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: they're all family.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Were they his real brothers? I didn't even know there's
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: a business that provides celebrity lookalikes.
• 41:59
  Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: The brother.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Well, Brian Dolmary's been in everything. Joel, it is Joel, right? Yeah.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: He's in Moving Violations. That's my only real connect.
• 42:10
  Speaker 18: He's the one in Mad Men, right?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: He may be.
• 42:12
  Speaker 18: Yes.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: He's sort of the failed copywriter.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I think he was on like a sitcom in the 90s.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: But other than that, like he's the one that just
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: sort of like every once in a while turns up.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: But Brian's in like tons of stuff. He's just not Bill.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: So it's like. He just gets character roles, you know, constantly.
• 42:31
  Speaker 18: There's a funny, oh, sorry, go ahead.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I was just going to say, Joel Murray, he's the
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: guy in the movie where he and that teenage girl
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: go on the shooting rampage.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: That's Bobcats.
• 42:40
  Speaker 18: Which is a Bobcat Goldthwait movie.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: It's all coming together. He's come back, like, again, I'm
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: seeing him a little more in later years, but yeah, like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: he went for a stretch where, like, that's his first
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: movie and then it kind of disappeared and he would
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: turn up in Bill Murray stuff every once in a while, like,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Just because he asked him to, I guess. But yeah,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: it seems like he's the one that would go for
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: long stretches before.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: There's a funny.
• 43:04
  Speaker 17: I heard Kelly Lynch tell a story in some interview
• 43:08
  Speaker 17: where she was saying that I guess her husband is
• 43:10
  Speaker 17: friends with the Murray brothers, who she calls Bill Murray and.
• 43:13
  Speaker 18: His idiot brothers.
• 43:14
  Speaker 17: And she said that I guess every time that they
• 43:17
  Speaker 17: would see Roadhouse on television... That one of the Murray brothers,
• 43:21
  Speaker 17: whoever was available to make the phone call at the time,
• 43:23
  Speaker 17: would call up her husband and say, your wife is
• 43:26
  Speaker 17: on TV right now doing it with Patrick Swayze. And
• 43:31
  Speaker 17: no matter what time of the night it was, the
• 43:33
  Speaker 17: phone would ring and there would be one of the.
• 43:35
  Speaker 18: Idiot Murray brothers right now. Kelly's doing it with Patrick Swayze.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's kind of awesome. And if I had Kelly's
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: husband's number, I would probably do it now. I would.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: That's kind of awesome.
• 43:52
  Speaker 17: It might be different in a post-Swasey world.
• 43:54
  Speaker 18: They probably stopped.
• 43:55
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Out of respect. Now it's just like legendary. Do you
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: know what she's doing?
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: It!
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: With Patrick Swasey!
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Like, that's impressive. With ghosts! Nobody gets to say that anymore.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's an impressive thing.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I also didn't realize that Robert Mitchum was Preston.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: And who's the actor who looks like sort of a
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Kmart David Bowie?
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Who's that guy?
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: I didn't understand why he was a bad guy.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Which one are you talking about? John Glover? No.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: You're talking about the guy who was brought in to
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: help out, who was the up-and-comer blonde guy. I don't
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: understand why he was supposed to be a bad guy.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Because he's a douche.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: But he was getting things done and people liked him.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Why is he the bad guy?
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: No, look, here's the thing. What Bill Murray was doing
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: was commercial. But what he was doing was commercial. You
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: see what I'm saying?
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's Artisan versus Walmart.
• 44:53
  Speaker 13: Right, yeah.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: But I think that might have been a thing in
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: the 80s, wasn't it? Like all the blonde frat kids,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: the rich kids, they were always the enemy.
• 45:00
  Speaker 18: Yeah, if you had that hair, you were.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: and he gave birth to Lex Luthor so keep that.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: In mind and he was in that video thing with
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Mick Jagger.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: He was dressed really weird then tails.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: You know one of my favorite things about this movie
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: is when they're like I guess it's like a gym
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: thing and it says cross something that you nail people to.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: That's his office that's his office I mean that was
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: just awesome I think it's that kind of stuff. I
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: think that, again, talking about just their TV shows, but
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: also just his approach that fear sells media. I'm like,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: oh my god, that's gotten so much worse than.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: He could even imagine. That's cable news now.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: He was just blatantly stating that. That's interesting to look
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: at now.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: I gotta say, my favorite line wasn't by Murray, it
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: was the Who was the president of the company?
• 46:00
  Speaker 22: Who was that?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Mission?
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Like, he's talking about how they need to
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: have TV for animals.
• 46:06
  Speaker 18: See, that too.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: And he said, you know how Kojak would always suck
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: on a sucker, you know?
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe we can.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: Have a show with a detective who dangles a string
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: around a lot, you know?
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I'm listening to that part, and I'm like, that's funny,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: but I'm like, it's almost sad because I'm like, this
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: was in a pre-internet world. In the post-internet world, all
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: we do is look at little cats chasing danglings. I'm like,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: how much worse has it gotten now?
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Not only is.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: There programming for cats, but we've become the ones that
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: watch cats. I don't know. It's so many levels of sad.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: The cats are pawing at the TV, and he's like,
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: nailed it!
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: The other day at work, I heard a guy finish
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: what he was eating, and he was like, pushed his
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: bowl away and he goes crushed it and i have
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: not been able to stop saying crushed it since then
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: and i'm like embarrassed for myself mostly for that guy
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: but like also very embarrassed that his weirdness rubbed off
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: on me because i don't need any more weirdness but yeah.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: So now i get that you heard a guy finish
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: his food.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: She just loiters around waiting for people.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: To finish their food. Well, I was standing right there.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: I saw the guy finish his food and he crushed it.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: He was talking to me. I mean, I wasn't just
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: like eating.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Like you could podcast a guy finishing his food.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: If we could, we would.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: There used to be this really, really handsome guy that
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: would come into work.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Had no charisma, right?
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Not really.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: See, he didn't eat it. He's handsome.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but his name is Sean, and he's
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: like the loudest eater ever, so I started calling him
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Slurpee Sean behind his back.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Hope you're not listening, Sean.
• 47:50
  Speaker 18: But you are very handsome.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: No charisma.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on.
• 47:55
  Speaker 13: Hi.
• 47:58
  Speaker 18: I'm sorry to just.
• 48:00
  Speaker 24: Well, I didn't get your message until this morning, and
• 48:02
  Speaker 24: I tried to call, but they said that you.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Weren't in yet, and then I tried to call back,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: and they said that you were busy, so I just.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: God, you look different.
• 48:13
  Speaker 14: Well, it's been a while.
• 48:16
  Speaker 13: It's your hair.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: I've never seen it so short. It makes you look
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: sort of grown up.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Is she going to be all right?
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. She's a real pro.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: She's very professional.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: What about you?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: You sounded like you'd seen a ghost.
• 48:34
  Speaker 17: A ghost?
• 48:36
  Speaker 12: You mean the phone call last night?
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I came across your number, and I just had to
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: call you immediately.
• 48:43
  Speaker 20: I know you, Lumpy.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I know that voice.
• 48:45
  Speaker 18: That was the frightened Lumpy I heard.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Excuse me, Lumpy.
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: Around these parts, most people call me Mr.
• 48:51
  Speaker 12: Cross.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: I'll admit, I've only seen two Karen Allen movies.
• 48:54
  Speaker 18: Oh, that was going to be my next topic.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, three if you count the Crystal Skull.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: No, if you count that other actress, who she is.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Does she always play... The girl from the past who
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: got away and was perfect.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Is that her thing? And she can work it, because
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: you know what? She's adorable. I don't know. I'm a
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: sucker for Karen Allen. She's so damn adorable.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: But is that really her thing?
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: It seems to be. I mean, she's been in a
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: lot of other stuff, but I don't know that she
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: always gets to be that.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: It's the freckles, isn't it?
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: She's not that in Animal House.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: It might be the smile. There's something about her smile.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: But I confuse her with that girl who was in Superman.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: margot kidder yeah she is not when she first came
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: up because my boyfriend was like who is that and
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: i was like well.
• 49:46
  Speaker 17: It's either the girl from superman or it's karen allen
• 49:49
  Speaker 17: and we'll find out soon enough.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I feel like karen ellen never like caught on the
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: way she probably should have like she's in several like
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: huge movies and like it's not that she's not a
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: really good actress like did you ever see her in
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: the glass menagerie no they filmed that version and it's
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: like her and like Malkovich is in it like it's
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: an amazing cast and it's this really good version and
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: like that kind of went by and I'm like okay
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: so she's doing dramatic work she's doing these blockbusters and
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: then just kind of disappeared until that cursed crystal skull.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Wasn't she the number two choice for Princess Leia I
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I feel like I read that somewhere everybody tried out
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: for those roles more than likely she was in there
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: somewhere I.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Don't know I couldn't have seen that so they Got
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: the zombie thing going 20 years too soon.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Cutting edge.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: That's cutting edge.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: I love the scene where the mouse pushes the golf
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: ball out of the back of his head.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: While we're on the mice thing, that may be my
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: favorite line in the movie. Have you tried staples? I
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: don't know. I think he's pretty convincing as a dick
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: right there.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't remember ever seeing anyone in
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: a movie... manhandling children the way he does.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: He physically picks them up and shakes them. Have you
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: seen Iron Man 3?
• 51:10
  Speaker 17: No.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: He's addicted to.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: That kid the whole time too. But again, Robert Downey Jr.,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: he can pull that off.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: This is like a little kid. He's picking them up
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: and shaking them. I don't think you can do that.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: PETA gets in the way or something.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: PETA.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Kid PETA gets in there and stops them.
• 51:26
  Speaker 11: PETA.
• 51:27
  Speaker 25: No.
• 51:28
  Speaker 12: PETA?
• 51:28
  Speaker 15: PETA.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: PETA. I don't know.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: PETA.
• 51:33
  Speaker 15: PETA.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Has everybody seen that $ 5 bill that you can draw
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: on in a way that Lincoln becomes Bill Murray?
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: No.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're supposed to deface legal tenure.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Once you see it, you can't unsee it because there
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: is a resemblance. Like, if you watch Bill Murray's mouth,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: sometimes he sort of misregistered. He sort of pouts to
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the side a little bit, and he gets that lower
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: lip droop to one side that Lincoln has. And also,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: he and Lincoln were both a little rough-faced, and they
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: have those, like, angular cheekbones. And so, yeah, if you
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: just Google Bill Murray $ 5 bill... There are several versions,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: but one is really good.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Now I have to do this.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: I think the best known one, they knew they did
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: a good job, and they wrote Bill fucking Murray.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Next to it.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: And that's the one that comes up the most. But
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: all the way through it, I'm sort of watching him
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: with that in mind, and every now and then he'll
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: do that Lincoln lip thing.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 52:36
  Speaker 18: That's amazing.
• 52:38
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Show it to the microphone.
• 52:40
  Speaker 17: So everyone at home can hear it.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been the picture podcast.
• 52:45
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: And see, that is actually a video.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: And that's part of his, why he's so much more
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: successful than his brothers is he has what's called cachet. Which,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: if you look it up in the dictionary, it's like
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: having a greenish tint or generally the look of money.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: And it comes from Bill Murray resembling... lincoln i think
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: um but yeah that that's been going around for a
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: while bill murray on the five dollar bill.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: He's got something because it doesn't i mean it doesn't
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: make sense why he hits so much more than others
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: and it's all like that air that he has like
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: he just can kind of deliver just about anything.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: And the way he carries himself it works.
• 53:34
  Speaker 17: And i have a theory too um i'm gonna totally
• 53:37
  Speaker 17: mangle this but there's a great clark gable quote and
• 53:40
  Speaker 17: i can't remember exactly what it is the gist of
• 53:42
  Speaker 17: it is i know that life is great and people
• 53:44
  Speaker 17: know that i know life is great and that's why
• 53:46
  Speaker 17: they watch me he was like i'm not the most
• 53:48
  Speaker 17: talented i'm not the most this but i know life
• 53:50
  Speaker 17: is great and they like that And I think that's.
• 53:52
  Speaker 18: Kind of the Bill Murray thing. Like, the dude's just
• 53:54
  Speaker 18: having fun.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: He does have fun.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Positive attitude.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: You can tell.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Well, and he's always in control of everything, which was
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: true of, like, the older stars. Like, he kind of
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: does have that, like, Clark Gable, Cary Grant. Like, all
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: those guys just kind of came in and did their
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: own thing, and, like, they didn't even stick to the
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: script half the time. They were just like, whatever, I'm
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: the star of this movie. And, like, it's kind of
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: true of this, like, of all of his movies, especially
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: as he gets bigger. Like, He comes into stuff later,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: and it's just like, there is no script anymore. Like,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: he just does, and this feels like that first one, really,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: where it's just like, everything is Bill Murray.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, the guy who wrote the movie was
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: really unhappy with it and swore that he wrote a
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: better movie. He was that guy, you know, from SNL
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: who used to do, like, the least loved children's stories. Like,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: The Little Engine That Died. You remember he used to
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: wear sunglasses or mirrored glasses and he was sort of
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: the skinny guy. No, Michael Donahue or something. But he
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: did a lot of really black humor and I think
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: he was on the show twice. He left for a while.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: He did that Mr.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: Mike thing.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he swore they wrote a much better movie.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: And of course, when you start into a movie based
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: on Christmas Carol, you have no idea where it's going
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: or what's going to happen.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, all bets are off. Why are people always... No, no,
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: go on, go on.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Nothing. Go ahead.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: You sounded so enthusiastic.
• 55:32
  Speaker 17: Well, I just found out that the co-writer is Mitch Glazer,
• 55:34
  Speaker 17: who is actually Kelly Lynch's husband.
• 55:36
  Speaker 18: So that is the one.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Dude, let's call him right now.
• 55:38
  Speaker 17: More interestingly, he was married to Wendy Malick when the
• 55:41
  Speaker 17: movie was made. If everybody noticed Wendy Malick popping up
• 55:43
  Speaker 17: in there.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 55:45
  Speaker 18: As you were.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: No, I was just.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: It's always funny how in these movies, people are forcibly,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: against their will, made to realize the true meaning of Christmas.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: And I always wondered... Does this happen with other religions?
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Are you forcibly made to realize the true meaning of Hanukkah?
• 56:02
  Speaker 20: Yes.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Is there a ghost of Kwanzaa past that comes around
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: and makes you know the real meaning?
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Could be.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Well, there was an Onion story last week that an
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: extremist Buddhist cell was going to unleash tranquility on the U.S.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: It's not funny. Don't joke about that, man.
• 56:23
  Speaker 18: Is it a gas?
• 56:23
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: We can't handle tranquility here. Don't joke about that.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: I just like that Bill Murray, like, if you think
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: about most comedians, they kind of fizzle out. You know, like,
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Eddie Murphy was huge. And then, even Steve Martin, who
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: I love. Like, I love Steve Martin. His career is shit.
• 56:43
  Speaker 25: Yeah.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: His career is total shit now. He turned a corner
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: and he started.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Just taking roles, and you can tell a big difference
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: most of those jobs.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: That never really happened with Bill Murray.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: It kind of went the other way.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Bill Murray was always classy from the beginning, and he
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: was classy not because he tried to act classy. He
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: would do the most classless things on the show. But
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I always had a problem with Chevy Chase. Chevy Chase
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: never really made me laugh.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: I do love his.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: See, I don't.
• 57:15
  Speaker 18: It's because he's broken inside, as we now know.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: What do you mean?
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know this.
• 57:19
  Speaker 17: He wrote an autobiography where he talked about his mom
• 57:22
  Speaker 17: who abused him, and there was a.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Whole big thing about him.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: That's not funny.
• 57:26
  Speaker 18: Tears of a clown, kind of.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: I think every comedian ever, or pretty much anybody who's
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: ever produced anything worthwhile, has had some type of horrible life. Normal,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: well-adjusted people... Don't, like, just make awesome things, usually. Like,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but it's just.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Well, there's no.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: We're not dedicated enough. And that's why I knew Tina
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Fey was lying when she said she had been a
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: mean girl. And I'm like, no, you weren't. You were that.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: smart girl she said she was a mean girl she
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: was Janice Ian and that's why she wrote.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: That she was the girl that hung around with the
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: mean girl I.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: Think she's created this I think she's created this kooky
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: wacky persona which is not true it's just something that
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: she and she's really that have.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: You read her autobiography though? no I mean, she was mean, but, like,
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: it was, like, a pretentious, like, I'm smarter than you mean.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not the mean girl.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: It wasn't, like, a popular, like, oh, my God, I'm
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: so funny.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Mean girls were pretty much how Jenny did.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I'm better than all the rest of them.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Like, on 30 Rock, when it flashes back to, like,
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Liz Lemon as a teenager, that's pretty much just how
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Tina Fey was. Like, that's just her.
• 58:43
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: But the mean girls I knew, they weren't funny or
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: witty because they didn't have to be.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Anything they did.
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: They didn't have to try, and they wouldn't either.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: But they did have a few other girls who would
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: hang around with them who were actually funny and had
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: to try.
• 59:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: But they were not, they were one of being girls
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: yeah I'm.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: The Chevy chase it's funny that you mentioned him because
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: in watching this I started trying to again because I
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: started looking at like the fact that Bill Murray ends
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: up in this movie at this point in his career
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: and I started trying to put other people in I'm
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: like if he didn't do it they were gonna make
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: this movie they would have cast somebody else and I'm
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: like Chevy was kind of at that same point in
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: his career and And I'm like, he could not pull
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: this off. It's a very specific type of charisma you
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: need to make this role work. And then I started
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: casting it like, okay, when they remake it six more times,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: when they do it now, I'm like, they're going to
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: give it to Jim Carrey, which they kind of did
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: for the weird motion capture thing. But I'm like, I
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: can see him trying to do the same thing, and
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: it still doesn't work.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: And he can even do drama.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: But I think he gets so caught up in his
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: slapsticky nonsense that, like, he can't commit enough on most
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: of the things, and I think it would overshadow. There's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: just so many people I kept coming up with, and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: none of them could have made it work like, I mean, again,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: it's kind of the Bill Murray show.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like, on to Jim Carrey, but, like,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: his heyday has lasted for a really fucking long time, like.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Which one? Jim Carrey?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Jim Carrey.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Well, he just found a way to make it money.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: He cashed in on it and kept doing it for
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: a lot longer than he probably needed to.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: He's one of the other people that I think will
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: just eventually transition into being like a... Very respected.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I wish he would. He's got it in him. He
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: can do it.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: His serious movies are the best movies.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he can do it. He gets so caught up. Well,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: he's not going to do it now since he's signed
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: on to do Dumb and Dumber 2.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Yay!
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: I was just trying to come up with other people
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: and it's like there's so many that just couldn't pull
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: this off.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I think somebody like Malkovich could have done it. How
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: somebody who's not really a comedy guy could have.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: See, that's the thing. And I think that's why this
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: ends up working. Because I think this is the point
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: where Bill Murray starts taking that other approach. And I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: feel like... I don't know.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I don't really feel like it works. I'm going to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: have to say I don't think it works.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Again, I think he's just getting into it. I think
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: it doesn't really fully come together until you hit something
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: like Groundhog Day.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: But I think.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: You can see it working here. I think there are
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: moments where he pulls it off and you do see, okay,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: he's doing something else and he's doing something he didn't
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: have to do. That's like a different type of approach.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think there were a couple of them.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: There's like the, I mean, the moments with Claire are
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: always kind of like that. Like he'll go back and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: forth from being his normal jerky self to like, you
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: can actually see that there's a real person there. But even, like,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: the end when he's at the future and he's looking
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: at her, there's, like, a real regret there when he
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: realizes he's the catalyst that, like, can lead people down
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: the wrong road and, like, make them, you know, as
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: unhappy and sad as his life was.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: A catalyst, you say? What is a catalyst?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Wait, what is that?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: You're flashing back to another holiday episode. That moment is
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: burned into my brain where he says somebody is a catalyst.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: What is a catalyst, you ask? Well, this is another
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: flashback moment.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: I love that movie, but I don't remember that part
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 24: You never know how or when we will meet a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 24: person who will become a catalyst.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Or who will lead us to one?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 15: What is a catalyst?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 24: Well, in this case, a catalyst is a person that
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 24: will bring about changes.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: They could be good or bad.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: But there will be changes.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 24: You can meet one almost anywhere in your everyday life.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 24: In a supermarket, drugstore, anywhere. Even riding down the Florida Turnpike.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: I just loved his little philosophical, and he's smoking and red-faced,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: and he's explaining the world to the audience of Thanksgiving.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: It was Blood Feast, but whatever.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: It's just lovely that there's a philosopher on hand while
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: we're watching this movie.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, for Blood Feast.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah. Yeah, Blood Freak said I didn't love that much.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: Thanks Killing is gold, though.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Or Blood Freak. I can't think of two of them.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Blood Freak. Blood Freak. Yeah.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: One of those.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 15: Something.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: How much did VCRs cost in 1988? Why was that?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: They were still pricey. Yeah, they were a lot.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't know if that's just funny, too.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 18: But it was a top-of-the-line pioneer.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Pioneer. So much product placement in this movie. Put out
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: some good stuff.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: Because it's like now even giving someone like a Blu-ray player,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: that's probably just like, 100 or something.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: I bet even at that point they were probably a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: good 500 or more.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just giving everybody towels. And that's when they win.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: It's a really great gift.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: And his little assistant, I was fascinated.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 18: Alfre Woodard.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, God, I know her so well. I
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: know her face. And I was thinking, well, she looks
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: a little like Angela Bassett, but Angela Bassett is tall
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: and she does the sexy ingenue thing. And then I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: realized it was my kid's third grade teacher, Miss Winstead.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: That's where I knew her from. My kid's third grade
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: teacher was Angela Bassett?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also saw her in Homicide and a
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff. She's been in a lot of stuff,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: so her face is just omnipresent.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: At the end of the movie when the little boy talks,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: I was watching it with my best friend and I
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: started crying a little bit and she did too. We
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: realized how fucking stupid it was to cry at that moment.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Who saw that coming?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: I teared up and she was making fun of me
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: but she.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Was tearing up too.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: That wasn't even worthy of it.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: I won't call you out because I'm a sap. And
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: it wasn't even the kid. It was mostly just the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Murray breakdown, which you guys didn't even like. But I'm
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: just like, there's so much in that that I feel
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: like is legit. And I think some of it is
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: his performance, and I think some of it is just me,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: that I'm the old curmudgeon at this point. And I'm
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: watching him have this breakthrough. I don't know. It was
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: like a weird moment that I'm like, I don't hate
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: that last 15 minutes. I feel like it's actually... works
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: in a weird way and you almost have to have
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: it to have the rest of this work.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Well you know that stuff really is important to bill
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: murray he's talked about remembering people who like he worked
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: at a golf course or something and country club and
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: he just remembered when people were nice and they didn't
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: have to be and what people were just assholes and
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: it was important thing to him but uh when the
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: kids spoke what it made me think of was uh
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: uh dustin hoffman the story about his first acting role.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: He played Tiny Tim in the high school play, and
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: some of the older kids talked him in, or dared
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: him to say, God bless.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 12: Us all, God damn it.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: And he did, and he was suspended from school.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 15: Wow.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: That was the beginning of his career.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 12: That's pretty great.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: God bless us all, God damn it.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: That's a great story.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: I can't you to have said that, because that would
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: be pretty bad.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: That would have been adorable.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think that wrap up really works.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: And I think it's because it's just, it is like
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: a weird honest moment that like you get this guy
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: that's putting on this like show the whole time. Like
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: everything that he does. And I think that's why you
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: were saying like you don't buy him being mean because
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: everything feels like he's so overdoing it to mask whatever
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: the hell is really going on with him. And I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: think it comes through. even when he's like over, he's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: almost seems like he's overacting. It's not, if you know
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Bill Murray, it's just what he does, but it seems
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: like there's so much of what he's doing. That's like
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: covering up that. It's almost like, I think he's, that's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: at the point where I feel like he's actually being
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: a pretty good actor because it's almost a layered thing.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Like you, if you watch it on the surface, he's
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: doing this really cheesy over the top performance, but there's
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: moments when it feels like he's doing it. Even within
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: the character, he's doing it on purpose to cover up
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: the fact that he's he's really uncomfortable about what's going
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: on or he's like trying to deal with something and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: has no way to do it other than to just
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: be a dick and like I don't I think this
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: is what again that turning point where I feel like
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: he started doing that and I think there's moments when
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: it really works well.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: Just for the record you left me you had to
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: go somewhere and get your head together or something well
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 8: baby my head is just fine check it out.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 12: It's right here where it belongs.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: What's the point? It's lonely at the top. It's not
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: lonely at the top. Oh, maybe around my birthday and
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: that sunset.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: I never had a couple of weekends that would have
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: raised hell with even a really normal person.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: But that's me.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: I'm a widow of business.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: That's my life.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I've chosen it.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: At least I work someplace that you can find when
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: you're looking for it.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, here we are now.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: When I want a wife.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy one!
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: And she's gonna be devoted to me!
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: To my wants and my needs! Not like you! Let's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: face it, you're treated me like dirt. Oh, Lord, another
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: wild and woolly one.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Honey, you look frozen.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 18: Yeah, no, well, I agree.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, of course, Brian.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: We agree with you, Brian.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 18: And I kind of wish that I'd been in the
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 18: theater so I could have sang along. Because my boyfriend
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 18: was asleep at that point. And I was like, I'll
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 18: sing both sides.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Because you're a real woman. You know what I'm talking about.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that part.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: No, the real women.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Here's one that, like, in this... I remember even, like,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: years ago when I saw it. Like, everybody else feels
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: like they're pretty consistent within the silly story. But, like...
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: And then as I watched it this time, I was like,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: it's not just this movie.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: I realized.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Always.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Is it just me, or does it feel like Carol
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Kane's in another movie? In every movie she's in. Like,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: I don't dislike her. She's funny. But she always feels
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: like she's in a different movie than everybody else in
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: the movie. I feel like, I don't know, I really
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: feel like that in this one. Like, she just seems
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: a little different in her delivery than everybody else. Like, she's,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's the.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: I would say it feels like she's on a variety show.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Which, again, maybe is why I don't hate her. Like,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: I think she is entertaining.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like when Harvey Korman turns up in
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: the Star Wars special.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: It's like, who's that guy?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: He's funny, but.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Something's off here, and I don't know what it is.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: But then I started thinking the other scene like that
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: that she's super well-known for is, like, Princess Bride.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: I always felt like both of them are in a
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: different movie. I'm like, everybody in that movie, like, takes
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: themselves pretty seriously. Like, that's sort of the joke of
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: it is that everybody's very... deadpan and very like serious
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: in the way they deliver these storybook you know lines
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: and then those two come in like some sort of
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: crazy slapstick movie that's going on for five minutes and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: deliver these weird modernized jokes and like all this other
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: stuff and then like disappear and have fun storming the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: castle and like like what movie was that part out
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: of and I'm like I think she's just like that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: like I started thinking of other roles I'm like she's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: just always in her own little world I think.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: I never really think I just If I see her,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: I just know what it's going to be like. She
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: kind of has.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: That one thing.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: She can only do one thing.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: She didn't start that way because you go back like
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: her weird horror roots. She's just a normal actress. It's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: like she gets more and more cheesy as she goes on.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: So I guess maybe it's just that was her road
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: or maybe she was doing improv or something and that
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: became her thing i'm.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Not familiar with her horrific past you just know her
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: from oh there's carol kane.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: When a stranger calls i think is the one she's
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: in and she's the babysitter and it's just normal straight
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: kind of cheesy horror role but yeah she doesn't ham
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: it up like she later does in just about.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Every Then there was Buddy Hackett.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: And then the fine acting skills of Buddy Hackett. Coupled
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: with Jamie Farr. How can you go wrong? Mary Lou Retton.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one point when I thought somebody said
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Lebanese or Scrooge because I remembered Klinger was always supposed
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: to be Lebanese.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there were sea urchins bothering him. What
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: do you want?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: And then I kept it. Was it the same set
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: as that great moment when Cher came out and sang Oh,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: holy night, that Paul Schaefer.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Has been doing everything.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, and that was Paul Schaefer.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: You saw who he was playing with, right? Again, a
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: little of everybody thrown in. I'm like, so he just
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: passed by Miles Davis on the street, telling him for change.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other guy.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't surprise me. I mean, Paul Schaefer was
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: connected to SNL, so that one made sense. But I'm like,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: do you just know Miles Davis? How did that come together?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: The street musicians.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I didn't pick up on that.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's Miles Davis.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 18: It wasn't a Miles Davis impersonator? That's not who the impersonation.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think so. I think that was Ben.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know who the impersonator was.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, they had so many real people in this,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you would need impersonators.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: It was a Bill Murray impersonator.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 18: I don't know.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe it was, I don't know, who was being impersonated.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't see anybody.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: That was definitely a major.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: It was just a credit, you know. Was there a W.C.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Moss impersonator?
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: It was Santa Claus. It was Santa Claus impersonator.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: They couldn't really get William J. Pollard to confirm. They
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: were like, eh, he's got a lot of other weird
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: guy roles. I don't think he can do it.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Did you know there was a song about him?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: There's a song about everybody.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Pollard for Precedent.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: It was in 68, but it used some tape of...
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Kennedy in the background and people felt that it was
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: tasteless after Kennedy was assassinated. Because there was that guy
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: who lived in Louisville who had been like the king
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: of impersonating Kennedy. What was his name? Mater? He changed
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: his name because his whole career was built on Kennedy impersonations.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: He impersonated the whole kid.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: How'd that work out for him?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Vaughn Mader.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 15: Oh.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Vaughn Mader.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 18: Wait, is that that first family record?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 18: That guy's from Louisville?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Well, he wasn't from Louisville, but he wound up living
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: in Louisville after his career was assassinated. He was doing great,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, ooh, you can't do that.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: But he never really made fun of them. It was
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: really nice, but people thought it was funny. And he
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: tried to get together another act after that, but he
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: couldn't do anything else as well. And he said himself,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: like you could feel the audience trying to help him.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: And he wound up playing honky-tonk piano around Louisville and
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: used a different name.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: And I knew people who knew him.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: From just, you know, hanging around in Louisville.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: So do you think when people do Kennedy impersonations today,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: are they impersonating Kennedy or are they impersonating his impersonation?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny you say that because a
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: lot of impersonations take on a life of their own.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: And people in comedy steal them from each other. Like
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: the guy who did Ed Sullivan impersonations. It didn't sound
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: at all like Ed Sullivan, but it became a thing
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: that everybody did. And everybody did it that way, even though.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: Well, actually, Carlin was like, the key to your Ed
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Sullivan impersonation was to just have the most outlandish acts.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: You know, like, now next, the Bronze Age.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: And everybody would do that really big shoe.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: And it's like, he never said that.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: Sort of like Captain Kirk never said, beat me up,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: but that became essential to your Captain Kirk impersonation. That's interesting.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: How did that come about? Does anybody know? I mean,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: that's probably a whole other episode, but... Like the beat
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: me up Scotty thing, like.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Play it again, Sam?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: It's probably the memory.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: It's probably the memory cheating. You know, like you saw
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: it whenever you were a kid and you misremember and
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: you fill in the blanks.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: But it became like a culturally.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 26: yeah we're culturally ignorant is the problem it's like one
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 26: person imitates it on a sketch show and it takes
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 26: on a life of its own you think that that's
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 26: what it was in.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 18: You know yeah we don't need no stinking badges.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah huh.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah and things get telescoped too like um people create
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: their own uh well, well, you know, like how the
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: teaser for a movie might have stuff that isn't in
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: the movie. People create their own teasers for reality and they,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: you know, they think that would have been cool. They
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: should have done it that way. Um, but yeah, uh,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: the story was just, uh, to finish the story on
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Vaughn Mader, I can't remember his other name. It was
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Abbott something. He went by another name later, but, uh,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: the story was that, uh, when, um, When Kennedy was assassinated, oh,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: who's the comedian? I can't think of, you know, Hoffman
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: played him, looked exactly like him. Lenny Bruce. Lenny Bruce.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: When he came out that day for his set, he said,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: poor Von Mater.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 17: Yeah, if you go to any thrift store right now
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 17: in the city of Louisville or any city across America,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 17: there'll be at least two copies of that First Family album.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: I ran into it all the time.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: My mom has an album called The First Family Rides Again.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: It was the sequel.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have that. Somebody gave it to me who's
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: a friend of his. It's kind of funny.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 18: I never wanted to shell out the 50 cents.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never... Somebody dropped it off at my door.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Like somebody I knew online, I dropped off a present
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: at her house and she dropped off something at my house.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: But the weird thing is, did the Kennedys have their
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: own accent? I've never heard anybody else have that accent.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: And that's why I'm wondering if people today, when they
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: imitate Kennedy, they're imitating the imitators. It's like, did Ronald
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: Reagan ever, did he really say well as much as...
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: as the impersonators make it out.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, Ted Kennedy still had that accent.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 18: Ted Kennedy carried it on.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: They become a caricature.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: Like you were saying, it takes a life of its own.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I think, though, I'm going to... have to say Reagan
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: really did.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think he referenced mommy quite as much in
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: the speeches as comedians did.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 18: As Rich Little did.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: Who's that?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: Never heard of him.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: He should have been at Scrooge. They had everyone else there.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: What I didn't notice until this time... It was like how... Like, again,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: it almost feels like... And this would be weird, I guess,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: because I don't know that... It'd be different if it
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: was somebody that's, like, hardcore into it. But I don't
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: know that Richard Donner's all that into Looney Tunes. But
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: this had such a, like, Looney Tunes vibe to it
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: that I didn't really remember. But watching him, like... I'm
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: not getting it.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 12: What do you mean?
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Well, he shoots him and he drinks a glass of
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: water and the water shoots out. Like, these are all
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: just bits from Looney Tunes.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: It's funny you say that because I always thought that about...
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Lethal Weapon, which he also directed.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's more of a Three Stooges, I guess.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Or it's almost more Warner Brothers. Which one?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, Lethal Weapon.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's all from that family.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Classic cartoon quality.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: But I mean, this, even like you've got your guy
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: running around chasing him with a shotgun. He even makes
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: the Hello Rabbit reference.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: And then when he comes back, he kisses him on
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: the mouth, like Bugs Bunny used to do for no
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: good reason to everybody. So I'm like, so much of this,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: like even the karaoke. I'm sure you had this for reasons.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: She's like smacking people in the face with a toaster
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: like it's Tom and Jerry. I'm like, there's so much
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: of this.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: She did try to poke him in the eye and
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: he blocked it.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's so.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 18: There's the falling off the building.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: So Looney Tunes. I don't know. And I didn't remember
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: it being that. But yeah, it's felt. If it was
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: like Joe Dante. He loves Looney Tunes. You can see
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: that in his movies.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, who's not influenced by Looney Tunes in their
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: daily life?
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: I think so. This one was just so blatant. I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: was just like, wow, this is kind of like a
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: live action cartoon.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to keep it from being blatant.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to like. let the looney tunes subtly
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: seep out oh it comes out but yeah it actually
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: does much of your life no really like i had
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: this completely insane roommate once a couple months ago sorry
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: to say once only one i mean only once but
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: uh uh we would like have these circular i don't
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: i'm not like an arguer like i put i'm pretty
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: laid back we'd argue constantly we'd have these circular arguments
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: and he was like so good at like manipulate like
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: at manipulating and like i guess i just got tired
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: and gave up but it would be like.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: Am not r2 r2 am not wait which one was
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: that it was.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: Like that it was like that all the time i
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: was like this is some fucking looney tunes stockholm syndrome
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: get out of my house yeah yeah i mean like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: i don't know like uh he recently had a falling
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: out with uh this other girl that i'm friends with
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: because you know i met her through him And, you know,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: we were talking about it, and she's like, you know,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: he paints this really sad story about his life, and
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: you feel so sorry for him because he's like, oh,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: my girlfriend cheated on me. I don't have a place
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: to live. And, you know, and you just, like, it
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: starts with pity, and then it becomes, like, disgust, and
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: then moves on to fear because he's, like, completely unstable.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: You know, like, she's, like, maybe in the process of
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: getting a restraining order against him because he was, like,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: threatening her. I'm glad he never did that with me
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: because I would probably just have him killed.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Don't get that hammer guy.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 13: No, he's dead.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: He needs ghosts to visit him.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: But anyway, that.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: Was like a Looney Tunes kind of thing.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: There's not anybody that I don't like.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: I don't have any enemies, really.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: I've had people like boyfriends and... friends and people I
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: know say or do really mean things that I just
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: like forgive them. But this guy, like if I see him,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: I'll be nice to him. But like my immediate goal
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: is to get far, far, far the fuck away from
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: this guy.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Like there's just really what you want to do.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: You mentioned forgiveness because I was watching this movie and
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking about how there's this unspoken theme
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: of forgiveness in so many Christmas movies and stories. And they've,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: they've done things like on SNL, Like they did the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: It's a Wonderful Life lost footage.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: I really like that one, by the way.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: And beat the guy in the wheelchair who stole the money.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, everybody's got money and it's all good,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: but let's go kick his ass. And then they also
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: did one with a Christmas carol. And I think it was,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: was it Glenn Close who played, was it Bob Cratchit?
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: wallace but they're having dinner christmas dinner it's like oh
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: he mistreats you for years and oh now he buys
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: you a goose so it's all good yeah i guess
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: so yeah that's fine okay all right we're gonna have
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: christmas no i can't let it go i can't and
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: i always felt that way about like uh rudolph too
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: it's like oh and now they all love him well
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: fuck them.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: Oh you need me to help you now.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Santa doesn't even have like like any like sensitivity training
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: or anything for them it's just like oh it's all
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: good now he has a what if he didn't have
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: a magic.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: Fucking nose that's cause Santa was a dick to him
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: too yeah but there in a lot of Christmas stories
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: there's this unspoken thing and I remember somebody I didn't
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: like the movie.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Magnolia I didn't really enjoy it at all But somebody
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: was explaining it to me, and he said, it's all
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: these linked stories about forgiveness, and these characters all had
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: this thing. And I thought, wow, that's really insightful. But
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel it, and I don't like it.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be extremely cynical, but what do
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: you do when you want someone's forgiveness, typically? What has
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: our society taught us to do for people when you
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: want to apologize? You buy them something. Maybe it's tied
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: to that in some sad way.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: It could be. I understood the thing for me in
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: the movie The Last Picture Show. It seemed like everybody
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: forgave each other because there just wasn't anybody else around.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Because what are you going to do? Okay, you hate
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: your best friend now, but you don't have a spare
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: best friend.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: You don't have another. I think a lot of people's
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: lives are like that.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: A little while passes and then Cloris Leachman has to go, God,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: you're such a All right, you know. And it's funny,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: because of the celebrity look-alike thing, the kid from the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: last picture show wound up being a George Bush impersonator.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Isn't that weird?
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 15: What?
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: That's where his career went. The kid from the last
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: picture show, you know, Jeff Bridges and that kid, whoever
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: he was, and his actual brother played the retarded kid
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: who always swept the street in that little town. But
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: he wound up being a George Bush impersonator.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: Texas.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Probably for the company. Listed in the credits.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: It's so crazy how small the world is.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: If you think about it. And that's why you have
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: to forgive people. There's nobody else around.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 18: And God bless us, God damn it.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: Unless they steal your nook and then you never have
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: to forgive them again.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: That's a whole little side story there. We'll leave that alone.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: Is that, you mean like your little spot where you sit?
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: No, I mean like my electronic nook book.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Those people.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: Those people.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Different set of people.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: Like, because if you go, you get in your little
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: spot and somebody else is there, you're like, you can
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: let that go.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would let that go.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: That happens a lot in college. Yeah, your little spot.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: And you go there and one day somebody's in your spot.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: And they're like, this is my spot. Yeah. You know, yeah,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: at work there's people who have like their table that
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: they set at every day. And it's like other people
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: sit there at other times and it's also their table.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: So they're like, oh, you've got our table. They're like,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: this is our table. And it's just like hilarious.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's great.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: It's just so funny to watch it play out.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: You see them coming in the door, and you're like, oh, yeah.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: Usually I'm like, someone got your table, but it's also
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: their table, so I don't know what to do. You're
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: just going to have to sit somewhere.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Else and deal.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: With it.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: And a bar is really fun.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: We should all whisper now. that thing on on podcasts
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: when people get to a really intense part of the
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: story whispering.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: We're really loud speaking as someone who edits it really
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: loud or we sound far away from the microphones i
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: can't find an in-between.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: I wonder how that would happen.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine a bunch of trouble man anyway This
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: movie also hits in a weird point where I kind of,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I knew it. I have his album from
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: this time period. This was the point when Danny Elfman
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: scored everything.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: Everything.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: That's what we said when the movie started. We're like,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: is that Danny Elfman?
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: But I kind of forgot that. But I remember, like,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: I got that first Dark End. theater album that he
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: did and i was like i forgot he did like
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: every movie like he's known for all the tim burton
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: stuff but like at that same time he was doing
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: all this other stuff and like some of it is
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: very similar to his daniel and then he'll do one's
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: that are totally different like and he doesn't really do
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: that stuff much anymore not that he gets any notice
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: for but like you can look at this period of
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: time and like he's doing stuff that sounds totally different
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: and he does the score for midnight run did you
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: realize that i know you like midnight run yeah i
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: do the score is done by danny elfman it's kind
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: of jazzy and it doesn't fit him at all like
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: it's very weird But then I forgot he was also, like,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: this is the point where he started picking up all
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: this TV work. Like, he does the theme song for
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: The Simpsons. Now we just know it as The Simpsons, but, like,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: there was a point when he was just some new
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: composer guy, and they're handing him TV shows, and.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: I can't even remember what the song for The Simpsons is,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: and I mean, like.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: The Simpsons.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, I know it's in my brain, like.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, I grew up watching The Simpsons. It's been
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: on for 30 fucking years.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Sing the theme for that girl. Anybody?
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: I can, but.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Anybody know the theme for that girl?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: She can turn the world on.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: No, that's the other girl.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's the other one?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: That's Mary Tyler Moore.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, goddammit.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 20: Whatever.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: They both had flippy hair.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: You can't do it, and I think the reason why
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: is when you try to access it, you get blocked
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: by Batman. That girl. You just can't think of it.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: If you don't throw your hat up in the air,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: this doesn't come to a close. It's completely unmemorable.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Nobody can think of that tune. The other day I
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: heard a tune and I thought, what the fuck is that?
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: And it turned out it was the Waltons theme.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Thanksgiving, Segway.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: There's a famous blooper from Audrey E. Bowes that my
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: mother made me look up where the little old granny
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: lady on the Waltons is bringing this big tureen of
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: soup or something to the table. And she's saying, be
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: thankful you have something to eat because there are people
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: out there who don't have anything. And then she trips
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: and spills soup. Yeah, it's a famous blooper.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: So in the show she didn't spill it, but in
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: real life she did.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: I think they did it over. I think they probably
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: did it over.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: There's a call for other takes. That might be one.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, my aunt was really into the Waltons, but
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: it just made me hungry, so I never really liked
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: to watch it. Westerns?
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: And pioneer type people.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: Western movies and Little House on the Prairie and Walton.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: They made me really hungry. I don't know why.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: It's strange.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 12: I don't understand.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Gilligan's Island always made me hungry.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: It's just for coconut pie.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: Coconut cream pies.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: Sounded really good. Coconut cream pie would hit the spot.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: Where do you get those?
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: You need a Marianne. Yeah. I'm still working on that.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah oh man.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know but i still feel like that that
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: score kind of works like in its own weird way
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: like it's just different enough from his tim burton stuff
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: but it's so identifiable like i don't know he just
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: needs to and i think he has a little bit
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: but his human voice synthesizing thing like it just got
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: beat to death in this period so it's kind of
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: hard for him i mean it is his signature thing
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: now but It would be great for him to not
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: work with that anymore.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: I've never heard the band he was in. Is that
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: any good?
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: The Oingo Boingo.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: Is it any good? I'm honestly asking.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know any of their stuff.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: You do.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 18: You know at least one of their songs.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: What's that?
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 18: You know a song called Weird Science.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: That song? Okay.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: That's them?
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: That's why I never heard it.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: Well, it's no Dead Man's Party. Dead Man's Party is awesome.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: Seriously, I have no idea what they sound like.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 12: But now I do.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 18: I mean, that's not really representative.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's what they want to be implemented.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, is that an outlier?
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: That's just their downstream success.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: Here's something crazy to bring full circle. Danny Elfman's brother
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: is married to Jenna Elfman. And Jenna Elfman was on
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: Dharma and Greg with Bill Murray's brother. Boom.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, he was on that.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: No, no, what's the thing when you finish eating?
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: Crushed it. There you go. At what point does Kevin
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: Bacon get involved in this?
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 15: Oh, no.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: That's six degrees of.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: Joel Murray.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Who was the actress that was married to his brother?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: Because she's familiar. She's done other stuff.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, the lady that was on... Wasn't she married to
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: Tom Cruise.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: At one point?
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: You're thinking of... What's her name?
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 13: No.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: I mean in the movie Screwed.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. She was married to Tom Cruise,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't she?
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: No, that was Mimi Rogers.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: Mimi Rogers is a different person.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: Do they look alike or something?
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 15: No.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: No, they're not.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: Which one was on Just Shoot Me? That's Wendy Malick.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know what she was on, but I know she.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Was on Dream On, which was horrible, by the way.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen either of those, but.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: I know her voice. No, don't watch it.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: It's bad.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: That's where Showtime original programming started, and if it would
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: have kept on that road, we wouldn't have any good
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: television now.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: And there was a blonde on the couch who looked
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: really familiar, too.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: The one in the boardroom?
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: She was always in the middle.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: But in the boardroom at the meeting?
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: No, at his brother's.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, that chick.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know any of those.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: But the blonde that was in the boardroom, the older one,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: is married to Robert Zemeckis.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: Or at least was at that point. I don't know
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: if they're still together. Because she was in several of
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: his movies and projects and stuff over the years. He
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: actually used her a good amount. She is an actress,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I think that was the only reason I
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: knew who she was is because she turned up in
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of Robert Zemeckis stuff and seemed to have
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: something going on with Bill Murray. There was only about
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: two scenes, but both times they acted kind of weird.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: I was like, I think that's one of those, like,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: he just seems to kind of, in his rich moments,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: he seems like he just kind of gets his women.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: That seems like that's one of the ones that's on
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: board with him just because he's powerful. It's my theory.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 15: Huh.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: I love the scene where the guy was like, women
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: adored me. He's like, adored you? You paid for the women.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: Again, that's delivery that only, like, adored you. Like, his
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: take on that is like, nobody can pull that off.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: It's a Bill Murray thing.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: Crushed it.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: Crushed it.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 15: All right.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: You crushed it.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, this is full circle in a weird way.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: This month, these Christmassy themed episodes are our anniversary slash birthday.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: This is how we started the show.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: Happy birthday.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: As Frosty the Snowman says.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday! Why don't you kids have some freaking pants on? So,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to acknowledge it's the passing of a
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: year and we're even more awesome than we ever were.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: And it was a weird tie-in because the very first
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: episode I also went out with the outro of Scrooge.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: So his interactive audience, it actually must have stuck with
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: me even then because, or well before that, because I
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: did like that finale, but I love that, that closing
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: with the, not only the interacting within the cast as
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: they're all singing along, but him interacting with the audience
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: sitting in the theater is kind of amazing. It's one
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: of those, like again, Bill Murray things that he can
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: even break the fourth wall and you don't really question it.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: You're just like, that's Bill Murray. He can do whatever
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: he wants, but yeah, I don't know. I thought that
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: was an interesting tie into this episode. We've, we've come
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: full circle as we enter into, I don't know, the
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: 50th year, however long we've been doing this. We're entering
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: into the 6th year of this show.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: Is that dog years or human years?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: Feels like dog years. What's that pizza you're trying to get?
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: If it were dog years, wouldn't it just be less
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: than a year? I can't do math right now.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: We'd just be getting started.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, we are.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: We're just starting. We have so many years.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Ahead of us.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: I'm just hanging myself off this microphone cord.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 15: Kidding.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: Totally kidding.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 15: Maybe.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 13: Oh, Lord.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Have you covered what you need to on Scrooged? What
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: were your issues with it you just didn't buy? I
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: don't know. You guys seem like you weren't as thrilled
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: with it as I was.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: I like the movie, but like I said, I just
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: don't buy Bill Burry as a main person.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: It just didn't work. Well, it's just because he's too
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: damn funny.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: I know, but his acting just seemed terrible. Like, the
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: acting just seemed terrible because he wasn't crushing it.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: I think he's, like I said, he's on his way.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: He's on the road to crushing it. Lost in translation,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: crushing it.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: I think i don't think it took him that long
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: to crush.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: No but i mean that that was when he kind
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: of hit that like mainstream acceptance that people finally went
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: oh i guess he's not just a silly actor like
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: he was doing it along the way and got better
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: and better but that's kind of that turning point and
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: ever since then he can turn up in really serious
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: stuff and nobody really questions it anymore like he he
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: needed to hit that point before everybody went oh no
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: he's a serious actor but i don't know i think
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: he was slowly moving.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: Up the problem for me was it had a kind
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: of exuberance about the medium that the thing for me
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: it's like early matisse that's what i would say about
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: it It's like early Matisse because Matisse said, like when
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: he looked back at his early paintings, he said, when
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: I made them, I was excited, but now I'm calm.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: And I just think the, the spoofiness about like jokes
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: about what's on TV. It's like, there's a kind of exuberance.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: I just don't have the energy for it anymore. You know,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: it's just, I have, uh, I.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 27: I mean, I can barely watch movies.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, it was okay. But it just didn't
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: have whatever dose of heroin I.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: Need to keep me really engaged.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: That sounds like you're.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: Personally falling through.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 14: You need to.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: Get your popcorn and your heroin.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I just didn't, you know, it's a
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: retelling of A Christmas Carol. And, you know, it's very 80s,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: and I miss that decade, and I'm never going to
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: get it back. I mean, you know, the pop culture.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: It lives on in video.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what went.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: On during that decade. You need to get you one
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: of them Pioneer.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: VCRs and start watching.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: My daughter calls us out because she'll say, you know,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: she can recognize in fashion that something is so 80s,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: and we have no idea. You know, we'll just look
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: at it. I don't know what leg warmers serve.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you what 90s fashion looked like.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It kind of has a thing.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: I was just like too there.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: You're blind to it because you've seen it so much.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: You were immersed in it.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: My unfinished paintings, I like to hang up around me
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: so I don't have to look at them anymore. They're
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: just right there, so it doesn't feel like a gaping
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: wound that needs to be dressed. Yeah, that's it. It's
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: like the 80s... It's kind of an 80s movie. It's
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: kind of spoofy comedy, which I don't do a lot.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: And it has a kind of exuberance that I'm just
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: not excited about anymore.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's as spoofy. I mean, outside
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: of the TV stuff.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 14: I.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: Think that's what, I mean, it's ridiculous in its own way,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: but I think it, I don't know, it sort of
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: creates that little.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: Somewhere in that movie, a guy was tied up in
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: a chair, and a guy said on the phone, he
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: can't come to the phone now, he's tied up.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: That seems pretty straightforward.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to rest my case, man.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: I think the only thing that, I was noticing this
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: time is how much I, like again, everybody always complains
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: about remakes. I'm like, but nobody minds that they do
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: a Christmas Carol 400 times.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, they were making fun of that because that's
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: what they were doing.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: On the show.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: It wasn't a straight remake.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: Every other year they do another version of a Christmas Carol.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: That's what I liked about this is I think it
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: does it differently. It finds a way to tell that
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: same story and hit the same beats that you have
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: to to make it a retelling of it. But it
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: doesn't do it in the most boring way possible, which
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: is what most of them do.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: One thing about the movie that I think disappointed me
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: was the movie within the movie, the Christmas Carol version
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 4: that they were doing on TV, which was supposed to
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: be the most exciting thing ever to watch. The only thing,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: they had the Solid Gold Dancers, they had Mary Lou
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: Retton as Tiny Tim, but other than that, it was
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: bog standard Christmas Carol.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: Pretty much.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: They didn't, They should have done more crazy things, you know,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: but they didn't. They kept it very traditional, and I
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: wish it would have been more.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: Like his InVision.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his version of it was pretty ridiculous.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: Michael Bay does Scarlet.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: They couldn't get, like, an Evel Knievel impersonator to just
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: jump over the thing on a motorcycle.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: It was coming to that.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: That was cut out in the editing process.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: But again, full circle, that's kind of what they're doing
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: this year. I mean, you have seen the ads for
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: their live redone version of Sound of Music, right? With
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: a popular pop star. I mean, we're making fun of stuff,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: but I'm like, it's on TV this Christmas season.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: Are you going to watch it?
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: Probably.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: It looks pretty great.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch Flowers in the Attic. Are
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: they making that to a film? No, it's a Lifetime
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: movie that they're going to make.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 15: Of course!
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 14: Yes!
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: But it actually looks really good, though. I'm totally going
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: to watch it.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 10: No, no.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: They made that into a movie.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: It was in the movies. Yeah, it's been. It's got
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: Christy Swanson.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: I missed that. But they're doing a really high quality
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: one for television. I want to say it's Lifetime, but
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: I might be wrong. Because it looks really good. It
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: doesn't look like a Lifetime special.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 18: But it should be on Lifetime.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: It's perfect.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: I know. Lifetime quality.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: My wife's telephone ringtone Always makes me feel like, and
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: now back to our Lifetime movie. And so it punctuates
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: my life. And I feel like I should be a
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: mean husband or something. Just to play out the fantasy.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: You feel like you're not coming through for her. I mean,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: she's setting her life up to be a cool Lifetime movie.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: Be more verbally abusive, Fred. Give her what she wants.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and your kids are all well-adjusted and normal. What
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: are you doing wrong?
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: That's a genetic anomaly.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: What is wrong with this family? Maybe that's what's wrong
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: with this family. You're just too damn right.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: This episode's so powerful it could tear a family apart.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: I think so. Well, we're all bundling up to head
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: back out into the cold of the winter holiday season.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: So I think we should wrap this up. We've been
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: here for about six hours, I think. That's how it
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: usually goes because they don't shut up.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 23: Brian.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: It's hard to get us to focus.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: Brian, happy birthday and well done.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday. Seven years, yeah. 77 years or whatever.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: You do good.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: You make the movies live for me. You make me
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: watch them. And you'll enjoy every damn minute of it.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 12: He beats me if I don't watch it.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: Shut up. Otherwise, I know that does it. We will
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: for listening. Happy Life Day or holiday of your choice.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: Think of your fellow man Land in.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 20: The helping hand Put a.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 6: Little love in your heart You'll see it's getting late Oh,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 6: please don't.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 11: Hesitate Put a little love in your heart And the
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 11: world will be a better place And.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 6: The world will.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: Be a better place for you.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 11: And me You just wait To.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 6: See Another day goes by And still the children cry
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 6: Put a little love in your heart.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: You want the world to know.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 20: We won't let hatred go Put a little love in
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 20: your heart.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 25: And the world will be a better place And the
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 25: world will be a better place For you and me.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: You just wait and see.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 25: I hope when you decide kindness will be your guide
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 25: put a little.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 12: Love in your.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 20: Heart We'll be a better place for the world We'll
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 20: be a better place for.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 13: You and me You just wait and see Put a
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 13: little love in your heart Put a little love now
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 13: Put a little love in your heart All.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: You got to do.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 6: Is just now Put a little love.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: .
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 6: .
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: .
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: .
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 6: .
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 4: .
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 12: A little.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 6: Little, little bit of love in your heart, yeah. A
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 6: little bit of love in your heart. A little bit
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 6: of love. A little bit of love. A little bit
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 6: of love in your heart.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: A great, great piece of love in your heart, yeah.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 15: This is a really great little movie.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: And it was Jane Wagner's.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 18: So does this tie into E.T.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: Porn in any way?
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's exactly where it's going.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: Did you wipe it down when you got it, at least?
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: In fact, added to it a little bit. I wanted
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: it marinated.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: That's the best way to go about it. When I
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: got it, and then again today, because some of the
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: rugs I get are just kind of full of dust.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: But it's ancient dust. It's the dust of Nebuchadnezzar.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: There you go. There you go. I knew exactly where
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: that was.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: Finally, I get a chance to work in that Christmas reference.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: You're a complete mess. I kind of like just making
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: stuff up.
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  Speaker 1: I watched the director's cut.
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  Speaker 3: You're about to get the Yoko cut on it.
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  Speaker 18: There's going to be an inflatable guy in it and
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  Speaker 18: a duck penis.
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  Speaker 2: I think we've seen enough of it.
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  Speaker 11: I know.
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  Speaker 2: It's a scary road.
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  Speaker 3: I only watch movies with inflatable men and duck penises.
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  Speaker 2: It's a short list.
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  Speaker 4: Do it for Lumpy.
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  Speaker 1: Lumpy, damn it.
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  Speaker 2: Do it for Lumpy.
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  Speaker 12: Talk hard!