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Prison Was His Rock Bottom. Real Estate Was His Comeback. ($97K First Deal) ft. Terrance Wilson · Motion and Success

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look back at it and you say it's like, you know, I was one of the black sheep sort of family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was getting disciplined, but I went getting a little bit, I think needed, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like on Mother's Day and that day, I got in the car, you know, with the guys, they was already on dumb stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They go rock the store and I'm in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I've never been in trouble, so it was like, I can't do it, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not, I knew you had nothing to do with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But being there, being around the wrong people, you are now principal to this charge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It calls me scholarship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And potentially the opportunity to go to the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've ever been in a situation where you ever went to prison, this is a guy that has went through adversity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was able to take that turn that into a mindset.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's making him so strong in his own determination to win once I went to prison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when things started changing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: five years and rehabilitate my life, my mind, my reading books, this is books and I would do that every day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thank God for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I literally, when I came from prison, I had goals in my mouth, I'm investing my money and I'm gonna make $50,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank God, well, I first deal with making $97,000.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: leaving yourself no matter what you're going through, I don't overcame prison, I don't overcame, I mean losing my daughter, tragic and God still got me here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, y'all, so welcome back to another episode of Motion In Success.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, guys, my name is Cody Brown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got my calls from me today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's IO and bro, we're back with another amazing episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I am excited for this episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason why I'm excited for this episode is because we get the chance to interview a gentleman That has went through a lot of different things in his life and still was able to take that pain and literally turn it into Shave in so you guys are in for a treat You guys are gonna start getting some information on how you be able to start investing into the real estate game If you ever been in a situation where you ever went to prison, this is a guy that has went through adversity He was able to take that
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[SPEAKER_01]: and turn it into a profit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Turn that into a mindset that's making him so strong in his own determination to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that way you guys can go out there and do the same for yourself today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So without further ado, I would like to introduce our guest for today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Terrence, Terrence, go ahead and introduce yourself, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll go ahead and get started from there, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, everyone, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My name is Terrence Wilson, and I'm from Lake on the Florida, grew up in Washington Park.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They call it the projects, but I'm glad to be here today, man, and I've got some great things to talk about, go into debt with my life changing from the childhood to adult to now, to being able to help others get through their situations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it, man, glad to be here today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for coming through for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do want to jump into the back story like you know how was life growing up You know you said that you you're coming from Florida, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sir How was life growing up in like a that's like a small town a little bit Where's the big seated Pope County Pope County's big what lake on Florida is right there in the middle of it So it's really pretty big so it's like the largest third I want to say the third
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[SPEAKER_02]: County in the state of Florida is pretty big so it's pretty big and I bet it's small town I bet so definitely want to actually like I was life growing up you know What are some things that you know you got into You know young good dog hood Whether it was playing sports whatever it may be what are some things that you know you was engaging to us like a and you're free is
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it's my, in my youth for years, I think growing up and watching the park, we always did play football sports, but you also had to fight to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was one of the things coming up in, you had to be tough, because they were gonna pick on you or you're just gonna get, you know, ran over a bully.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what I wanted to say is just growing up, my childhood, my mother, mother of four kids, I was the baby, I was the son, I was the baby boy of all of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my father, you know, he was on drugs, crack cocaine, man, and actually affected it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a part of that, but truthfully, man, doing that time growing up, not knowing what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sometimes it likes getting cut off, and we, you know, the government assistance and food stamps, that's what we was brought up on, that's all I knew.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, it was like, man, like, okay, I'm just going through the motions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But always wanted to be where I'm a father, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I would be in the midst of where he going in and the holes and he would tell me not to be up there but I'm in the call with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was just like a childhood of growing up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say it wasn't always good, but it wasn't as bad because growing up with two parents in the household, but my mother did the best she could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, she worked out a tiny times day nursing, so she did the best she could, but everything for us like childhood coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it was rough no so I mean for us like playing football I was good at playing football in basketball we used to go down to like this summer camp sender and the boys and girls club and always playing sports so I think that was keeping me out of the streets of around the things that was born on in the projects yeah yeah yeah so seeing like seeing your dad you know as a young child like
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's supposed to be somebody who you look up to as like a role model, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So seeing him like how, seeing him like you said in a car for, well, type of people like, what does, like, what's the thought's going through your head?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, as a kid, seeing all that stuff like, did you think like, yo?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to make, I want to follow that fast path.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be like, some people view it a different way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people be like, yo, this is something that I want to do when I get old at two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be, you know, I want to be the dope boy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be a pimple, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to say, like, what was going through your head?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, or did you really like, nah, this can't be me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the times I would get around him, I wasn't caring about what was going on because I was always saying, I'm going to make it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was one of the things and the things that was keeping me to like go on to play football With no support like nobody coming to the games literally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm MVP like I'm getting MVP's playing football I'm getting I'm I'm I'm that dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's like the coaches They will come and get me take me away from that environment
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like one of my coaches coach walker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never forget him like he likes hate, say he's my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he had a family kids and he treated me like he was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it wasn't no different like if I can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He won't some shoes that go by me some shoes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it would it would it would hold man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but I think God for him and today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just by looking back and it's like, man, I came a long ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just by him coming to get me on Friday nights, football, we going to play, we going to watch dread nights, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So those things like that, I think I look back after you say my life, I respect that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just can't, you know, it's like, dang, like, you good, you don't have a support,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I was one of the black sheep sort of family, you know, like I was getting discipline, but I went getting a love and I think I, you know, need it, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So me touching on this spot, man, like, for the first time, like, man, I think all, for just as a child who are growing up and having those type of people around to show me something different, then the drugs and the
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know in your mind as a kid, you're not able to get the shoes, you're not able to get the things that you want to get and be fresh at school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to wear these little hemadion clothes, but I mean, my mama did the best she could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She kept me clean, you know, it was just that support needed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't want to say that my parents was just my mother just was a strong person that was going through the situation she was going through.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like, you know, I definitely like that was a great story, you know, because a lot of times it's like, when we do get older, we tend to look back and like, you see where some of your peers, your colleagues, where they have gone and you like damn, like this person really saved my life, like, because that could have been me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He really did, man, because he would take me, he would take me, first day out to school Friday, well, Friday at the school, you're coming get me, and I'm like, I'm going away from
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to football more, we're going to...
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we look at that fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We doing look at things and it just will play up major role in my life at practice, you know, I'm going against whoever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care, you got, you got to show me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just a competitor thing I had in me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, from football, I went to basketball and started playing with the Lincoln fire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was one of the programs that really changed my life to as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to this day, I still have a relationship with those coaches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've seen something in me that I didn't see in myself and then also to I mean, you know Growing up in your day you even mentioned that you as an all-American football player You know you had all the big scholarships lined up and all the big colleges coming up to to scout you out You know, how is that like you know growing up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always wanted to, you know, play for the you man, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was one of the things I just loved of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And from as a freshman, I started, well, I played as a freshman on varsity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never played JB.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I automatically, I'm going, I said in front of the coach, some of time come.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're in spring, practice, coach like, coach counseling like Wilson, what you want to play?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm playing varsity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, yeah, I don't I'm not going down now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's nothing for me I want to go up the voicity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So all right Next thing, no, I'm scrapped up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was competing another another kid He was already in the 10th grade so who's competing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know as a freshman and I ended up starting like four games at the end of the season like three or four games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that experience along and we was undefeated 99 who went to the championship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was exposed, I was being exposed to something great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Always compete in but more so they had tests overnight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a period of like all those things that it means like weight class like lifting weight speed probabilities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's how they based they was like like you would score points off of that based on for your agility, speed, lifting and I always say man you gotta be the ultimate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the biggest that's the top dollars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I like one point did you realize because you know it from this story up to this point it sounded like you're going you're going to lead yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what point did you realize like, yo, whether the league wasn't for me, whether you know your plans change like I what point was that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it drastically happened, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, it was like on Mother's Day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know forget, every time, like, I know I was the one that's gonna make it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, man, I gotta help my mother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first thing was a kid that was by the mom of my house, by the, you know, putting them in a better position and that my mother would never work again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that day, I got in the car, you know, with the guys, with the guys, hanging with the wrong people, the guys,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, they was already on dumb stuff, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like so for me, getting in there and knowing that, they couldn't go rock this though, like, they couldn't rock this though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm gonna get caught with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even think just like, hey, I'm in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At that moment, it didn't, it's just like, happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They go rock the store.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I've never been in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Never been in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was my first charge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, I can't do this, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you have nothing to do with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But being there, being around the wrong people, you are now a principal to this charge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got to take it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and that was like, I didn't even realize it was in real life like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's happening to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a senior year, there's my senior, like this spring training, like we, all the coach, all the coaches from all over coming down and seeing me in a few more kids that was playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when that happened, I was just like, man, like my everything went down the train, eat immediately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody that was around me disappeared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the coaches that was still in my life was really checking on me the ones that was, I spoke about earlier, the fall in the lake on fire, all the turns from a griff like, those, dumb right there was to my glue, I said, you can get through it, you know we made, you know you made those bad decisions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you have to live with them and it was eating me up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it was telling me down because I was dumb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, I know I was going to make it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I always told myself, I wasn't going to be like everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or I just got to get to that, that D1, that Miami, and that just it broke me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of breakdown like the details behind that was in like one place, one time, it was like, you know, like these was like your friends, homies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, like, you got caught up in the situation, just for, like, you know, being there with them, like, what, like, kind of like, what, and then you don't have to go too much in detail, but like, what went down, that got you in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: By me being there in the car, like, if I know them, they was going to rob a store, I wouldn't even be there in that car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I happen to be in the car and they just seem to go in the store.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what I mean, and got, got in the car, drove off, and next day, you know, police come.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at that moment, I don't like, oh, it's not like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we had nothing, we jumped out the car, I jumped out run, I get away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This, I don't know how I got away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I understand, like, it was just, I even ran through a lake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a me one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I ran through a lake, like, just to get me into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you, I mean, this is, at this point, man, I don't know how I got away, but I got away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the gate was high.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I hit the gate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's a late right hill, so it can be alligators right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can be whatever, but I was scared as the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just, I'm telling man, and it was like dang, like really what happened?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I got away once I got away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was crazy, you know what I mean, but then they come back down and you know my mom and say, hey, if you got nothing to do with it, you know, go, go, you know, not knowing the real process of making sure you have a role, you making sure those things in place before you even go down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then not a tearigation of this and that and that, just not knowing, and not happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it hit those people, it did a lot, when it went out, I was embarrassed, you know, I was more like let down, like I let down my family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just all for being around the wrong people, being around, I mean, I wasn't from the wrong, nobody ain't trying to hurt nobody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but being in the wrong place, it cost me scholarship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And potentially the opportunity to go to the NFL, correct me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because all the Americans did that, that, that, that, that title in that, that position ain't ain't, ain't some you just, you know, you just call anybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's crazy too, because it's like nowadays it's like, you know, it's certain like, especially in our community now, I'm seeing people embrace like, the star athletes, like they go in the ticket.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, he can't be in certain places, like, nowadays they kind of making sure like, you know, they don't get involved in things that could like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, affect whether they scholarship, whether it's them going to the league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of people nowadays, they kind of like protecting, protecting them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like that's what they definitely should do with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, your friends, especially like now, we can't have a man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm saying it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then after a situation like that, now you go into like, interrogation rooms and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's where you know, now people might think like, you know, the street mindset like now I got to be loyal to these people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the end of the day, it's like, hey, these my friends, I ain't do nothing, I ain't robin nobody, I ain't pull a gun out of nobody, but you know, still having a stick to that cold, you know, that's another side of it too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: After a situation like that, like, how did that change your whole mindset?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, people who keep around you, how was your relationship with those type of friends?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, was he done deal?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was done, but they wasn't really my friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just knew of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like I was hanging there with Dave or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like, hey, let me get a ride here.
20:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna do it to a ride and then we'll come back.
21:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
21:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But that was, and that was, I mean, I'm like, well,
21:06
[SPEAKER_00]: when it happened it just it just told me all of it really just like it wasn't like you weren't we hanging every day and I know y'all for me.
21:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I know y'all do sexual stuff.
21:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I know y'all go wrong.
21:17
[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't have that in my mind.
21:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
21:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just going to go in there and do that.
21:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, they did.
21:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So after like that entire situation, how do you like what is the thing you went through?
21:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you like to say, you know, my scholarship is that's pretty much a deal.
21:36
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you do after that?
21:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I'm gonna tell you, they told my couldn't go to school, right?
21:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like you, you're gonna have to go to a build, not going to bad school.
21:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So bad school means you, you can't play football until this case pretty much overwip.
21:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But just because it's a high profile case, you got to go here and when I get there I'm like I don't even want to go to school.
22:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm more embarrassed than anything like that.
22:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I went from here to here.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't went from the top and to like, not that it was like, I still had reach.
22:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I still had an opportunity too.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not go to those schools but go to a like a junior college or something like that and which I did try that But I think the mental was the mindset being that my dad was I you know Just not having not even trying to blame anybody because I take full accountability for my actions today Like I know I shouldn't have been with these guys right I know
22:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just certain people you just know you don't know you just know you don't need to be riding these guys So it wasn't my parents fault it was my fault it was everything on me But to happen when it happened everybody, you know just stop doing the things that normally would check on and do which was okay
22:57
[SPEAKER_00]: My mentor really like I'm gonna make it anyways.
23:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a steal like I'm gonna make it no matter what and That's what I went to bad school.
23:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They told me I told I ain't want to go but they say in order for me to get My stuff together and get back into the transition of going back to school.
23:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to come to school I got to show up.
23:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so then now
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: quad GPA drops, everything around it, you know, just by you getting in trouble going to a bad school, they're not able to meet the requirements of those core classes that you already was in.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't hold it.
23:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's basically like nothing.
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You're doing two plus two, and that's like really.
23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But when I got back, speed it up, okay, a couple months I was there, that I deal a lot, I mean to come back to school.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And I never forget this when I came back to school, was playing against a kid that was Russian.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Russian dude is huge.
23:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I'm right.
23:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, he was already like, it's gotten kid named Tariya's god bless today, passed away, but he was that dude.
24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And nobody couldn't stop him.
24:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, when they allowed me to come back, I was like, oh, he ain't even gonna get over 50 yards.
24:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, this is exactly what I said.
24:13
[SPEAKER_00]: That was like, just come back to me.
24:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he was running it up, he was running it up.
24:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But we ended up coming back playing the idea and played that game because I came back on the Thursday.
24:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So that means they ain't practiced anything.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So they weren't going to allow me to play.
24:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But that Thursday come when I get there, it was like 20 coaches lined up.
24:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody looking everybody excited because it seems in there, I'm just like, whoa, everybody like, what's the third step?
24:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the third step, Pat Rodder, because Friday we do Pat on Friday, but it was the third step.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So all the coaches in the line up, Tennessee, Miami, Kentucky, I'm talking about over 20 some schools.
24:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And they only wanted a few people.
25:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And when they said 10, it's all like, oh,
25:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I got some hope here.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
25:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm back like, and that was the cake that that's how I feel.
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: like that.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really back.
25:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really feeling to make, you know, a big change got in trouble.
25:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And I still had an opportunity to go.
25:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we go out and you know, they're going to run to talk and stuff like that.
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And my coach really kept a secret.
25:27
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he kept it too.
25:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to allow you to do it.
25:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to, I'm not going to do it.
25:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that.
25:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It happened to you.
25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But you, you know, you got to be a young man now to the.
25:39
[SPEAKER_00]: talk for yourself and things work out, it's going to work out.
25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So after that whole situation, you ended up doing time and then I had got on probation.
25:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I got on probation in order for me to go here in a sign.
25:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, you know what I'm going to get on probation and whatever it's on my record, I don't care.
25:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But I was able to get off of that during the high school year.
26:04
[SPEAKER_00]: doing that season, but I was able to play football again, fighting in the charges.
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
26:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So, make a long story short.
26:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, I'll get on top of me and get on up probation and go to school, go to probation, get on probation at the end.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean, you'd be good and off, but I ended up not getting a scholarship because I had to end up
26:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to pass the test before, but it wasn't really like, hey, you make a 17, which I had on 2.8, 2.9 called GPA, so it wasn't high high, but it was just enough, yeah, it was just enough to get me, and I mean, I wasn't, I'm just, it was just like, it was just like,
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, when I got from that bad school, my cousin paid drop.
26:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And that drop, I had to score higher on the test, and I couldn't pass the test because of just a little bit.
27:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I did good when it didn't have it's out in the school because you can have it's out in the school or to do that.
27:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right.
27:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also, I do want to jump into the real estate side of things too, as far as I want it.
27:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to cut this part out.
27:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to put it too far into the story and then you jump into the real estate aspect as well.
27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to forget the part.
27:33
[SPEAKER_01]: when we talk about your daughter, Kai, I feel like that's definitely important part, and then we're gonna talk about the real estate after there.
27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so yeah.
27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So even with this here, we ain't got to go so long into it.
27:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we can jump into a whole new situation because whatever y'all want to do, okay?
27:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It's because I know it can be, it can go in the story.
27:54
[SPEAKER_00]: It's because the story too, but even then when I got in trouble, boom, I lost the scholarship, I had an offer opportunity to come back.
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: to school.
28:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And so then now I cut out that extra stuff on the court and fight in the case versus you know what I mean so we could do it like that.
28:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's not right.
28:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I just was about to actually that too.
28:14
[SPEAKER_02]: So you had a second chance it sounded like like you had a second chance to basically follow that dream of you know making it to the league.
28:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So
28:28
[SPEAKER_02]: after, you know, the sky was there, they saw you play, they liked the way you play.
28:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what happened after that?
28:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, just by me coming back to school, like I said, I went through the bad school, yeah, it came back when I came back here.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: They still was like, it was like 20 coaches.
28:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was lined up.
28:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, dang, I still got hope.
28:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a little hope piece that it was dotted, it died, down inside of me.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like, okay, go in until you take the test and take the test.
28:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to take the test and then I ended up getting past the test.
29:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So I ended up going to Juco.
29:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Juco.
29:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
29:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So get up to Juco.
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you get a scholarship going to that school?
29:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because Juco is like a partial scholarship, so like that.
29:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just had to play the last division one.
29:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not division one.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Just play old season, get your grades up and then transfer.
29:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I was wearing this shirt and was the defense coordinator for Miami, and I was having communications with him.
29:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know what I mean?
29:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it still had hope, but then when I get up there, it didn't work out as planned.
29:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I then just want to solve speeding up.
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave me an opportunity, but it wasn't an opportunity like they wasn't giving me the reps as a start-out as a person that's been playing And it's hard for you to sit on the bench and knowing that you better than that you know that too good and knowing that every time you get in you're going to show up
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: because I didn't know no half speed.
30:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Ain't no jogger with me, when we line up, it's head up, it's gonna, I'm gonna bust you or you're gonna bust me.
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean, like, I got the embarrass you, it's that's how I got to be, like, and I always tell kids that all the time, listen, competing is a great thing.
30:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if it's your boy or anything.
30:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna bust you.
30:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You better scrap up, you know what I'm saying?
30:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So I took that ass like, you know, just being a leader.
30:27
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think being a leader, you got to show it in a sample.
30:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the first one.
30:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And I always got to be able to get up front, show the drills every time.
30:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So being not, they had the expectation of doing the same thing.
30:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
30:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And before we, before we move on, I want to ask you to, like, what should take on them?
30:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Because nowadays it's like,
30:44
[SPEAKER_02]: college athletes is making money now, like this, you come in, you could be making six figures your first year.
30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Me now.
30:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they're doing.
30:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's good.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I really think it's, it's a great thing, but it also can be a bad thing because then now,
31:03
[SPEAKER_00]: They are not really working for exactly how hard it needs to be and you know just getting I think things should be you know in place like scrubs to do this to get this Do the you know to me, but when they give it all to them like that it's I don't I get you know They should get paid because they they make it money off of them as well exactly
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think they should just be lining up correctly.
31:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Might be creating them an LLC, getting them the right people in their circle when they dealing with those millions of dollars so getting into real estate, getting it to, you know, maybe start so anything like that to build your portfolio when you making this money instead of blowing it.
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: That used to always be a thing like even when I was this cool bro like they used to have us right essays Do you think a college athlete should they get paid or should they not get paid or might let's not think I should go They should get paid bro like they they playing in big ass stadiums and you know It's that was the people showing up for their game days.
32:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, so some people too no matter how good they are like for some reason like
32:11
[SPEAKER_02]: they might not just make it to the league, like it's just competitors that competitive sometimes, but you have to make yourself a decent bag with them four years.
32:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, I want to ask you to, when did you transition into the real estate space after all?
32:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything that went on, you realize college, proes is not at any more.
32:28
[SPEAKER_02]: When did you transition into the real estate?
32:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, how'd you come across that?
32:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I always wanted to be in real estate, you know, just growing up as a young entrepreneur, I think, when I got in trouble, you know, just getting, well, when I got in, that didn't work out.
32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: The football didn't work out.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Then I had to come back to figure it out.
32:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I started hustling, started selling drugs, you know what I mean?
32:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, doing the things that I, you know,
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Quick cast right.
32:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate it.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It just was the experience that I had to go through and End up on the prison once I went to prison.
33:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when they started
33:07
[SPEAKER_00]: change it for me.
33:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
33:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just couldn't.
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: When I jumped into real estate, it was me coming from prison, you know, meeting my partner, meeting one of my friends that I was, you know, friends with at the time.
33:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And she turned me on to a heartman and a lender.
33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they were to do a deal together.
33:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So that transpired like that, like, it was just like, you know what?
33:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to do something.
33:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to build houses up.
33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Being in that real estate and that's what transpired.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what got me up to today right to the day But when we started up just right around man.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a part of my fiance We was just right around and she's seen the sign and she told me she had a heart on the lender So she was like I didn't know nothing about a heart on the lender all I was like well how did they buy the houses?
33:57
[SPEAKER_00]: but she plugged me in with the guy and we found the deal.
34:01
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like two for one deal.
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like 60 by $1,000.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So at the time, we only had a brain like 10% down to the U.
34:09
[SPEAKER_01]: To the closing table.
34:11
[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what I'm saying?
34:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like,
34:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Well that's a good deal.
34:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it and we was able to do it and you know start that process like that for us using the hard money lender we ended up remodeling the house.
34:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a wooden house and it was a blockhouse.
34:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I always tell the story like man the track the thing was I thought I was a G.C.
34:32
[SPEAKER_00]: You know I was on it so excited about getting a real estate and your first deal and it's like man you know what
34:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I can go ahead do this I can do this but you can't you got it you want to be able to start with the G.C.
34:45
[SPEAKER_00]: a general contractor because not having a general contractor in place you're going to mess up you're going to lose money So look so like when it came when it came to you getting that first property
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you had the hard money lender, you had to come with the 10% down.
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: How did you find the 10%?
35:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the money that I saved up through the Kawash.
35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a mobile detent of business that I was making money in.
35:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I had probably about at the time I had like four, I had a total of six vans, but at the time I had maybe about four vans, I had a Kawash, I had things going on, so I was pretty much making money.
35:23
[SPEAKER_00]: you know legit.
35:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I was everything.
35:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I was more like, you know what?
35:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm legit and I think God for it.
35:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I literally, when I came from prison, I had goals in my mind.
35:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I had all those things.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to that out.
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, man, I'm honest with you.
35:38
[SPEAKER_00]: But no, man.
35:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was able to go in prison, then five years every ability to take my life, my mind.
35:46
[SPEAKER_00]: read read read read I want to say reeducate reeducate myself I read in books this is books and I would do that every day because I knew I knew that five years it's seeing long but it wasn't really long
36:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, for me, I was going to college.
36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Being around life or being around people, that's not coming home.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I was able to really sit down and play chess with these type of players and see them and me.
36:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I could have been dead or doing life in the streets.
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't been raw before.
36:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So it turns you into that mind.
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It turns you into that, I got to have them.
36:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
36:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And thank God,
36:28
[SPEAKER_00]: it just didn't happen that way, but through that, you know, being in that, that I want to say environment in the streets, it wasn't right.
36:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So for me to take that and it's like, you know what, I'm gonna do the right thing, and that's why I started a mobile detailing business, you know what I'm saying?
36:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it started too.
36:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So I used that money to invest in the real estate.
36:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good, that's good, so like when you was operating the mobile detailing business you were operating like with contracts and stuff?
36:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I would go out to it, man.
37:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I would flood the city.
37:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I was so excited about it because it was a challenge.
37:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like a person say, now I don't want to call watch the day, but next week, if I see you again, I would actually, and that's what will happen.
37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But I was go out to man, I get into like chamber of commerce.
37:17
[SPEAKER_00]: the major leagues, big people, you know, that's more like with all the businesses inside of that state or that county, they are entering to it like a, it's more like a net ricken environment.
37:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I was exposed to that, that's when I was able to meet the right people to get the contracts to know when to bid on it or when to go down in place, you know, put your offer in.
37:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So were you doing like government contracts?
37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't doing a government, I was doing the school board contracts, I had buses.
37:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing a lot from Orlando, and then I was doing contracts with ARVs, not ARVs, but those big, how I want to say, man.
38:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You know the the chart of RV chart of RV RVs.
38:06
[SPEAKER_00]: RVs.
38:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah RVs.
38:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about ARVs, but ARVs.
38:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm thinking of some of ARVs is after repair at the bad news.
38:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking about that.
38:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
38:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I was starting to do and I was I would get nose contracts.
38:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to like big companies like Coca-Cola trucks.
38:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You know trucking.
38:26
[SPEAKER_00]: There's all the 18-wheelers.
38:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I would get contracts landed there.
38:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I go away and then 18-wheelers that truck stops and I start you know setting things up Passing out so then by me hiring a extra no hiring my younger guys of people that wanted to work.
38:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I would be able to load up
38:43
[SPEAKER_00]: three or four people in the van and we go out and knock out by 20 to 30 cars at this location and just networking and then it up yeah.
38:53
[SPEAKER_02]: But you didn't want to like so you didn't want to scale that like when did you really want to say that you didn't want to do that no one you write that full-time real estate.
39:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I'm gonna tell you, man, I still wanna, that's the part of me that when I had lost my daughter that tragic and it was just like, I still wanna do it because my comfort's meant it's not even a comfort's yet.
39:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And real estate is something that's a long-term game where you can invest in.
39:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But for me to get back into really what I want, like, you know what I mean with the car watcher or teaching, teaching people how to scale that car watchers, or create, you know, something that can help car watch the software or anything like that.
39:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So every day I wake up, you know what I mean?
39:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I try to ask God to give me the vision because sometimes you can go off of your own.
39:45
[SPEAKER_00]: vision and it may not align with what he wants to do but what my story has been doing and people being calling me for help and call watches are a service of self-service place like businesses like they've been calling me like hey man I see your story you know I got to call watch I'm having problems I'm like you know what you really want me to do
40:11
[SPEAKER_01]: because real estate is the long-term game.
40:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Investing in long-term, but right now it's like, how can I impact the people in the world?
40:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And Kawash, because it was like...
40:23
[SPEAKER_00]: the beginning of my life start and changing from prison and the way my cousin when my cousin honed me the money and he set me down and spoke like and believed them in like because I got to you and even got to do nothing illegal anything but I just like by me having him it really helped me and say my life because not just because I see him like I talk about I see myself
40:52
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
40:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They was get it right at a sentence you know or how does it go like they say like
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is out the prison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this is out the prison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I came home from prison, I ain't got no money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mind you, you're coming home from prison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You ain't got nothing but a driver in a go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
41:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause then now you got kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got, you know, your family and stuff like that.
41:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So what I would do is, I'm gonna tell you, like I say, I went in, what, what transpired for me to get into, call watchin'.
41:23
[SPEAKER_00]: One of my friends, now he was in the city, he was talking, but he had his business.
41:30
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, man, I'll run a circle around you.
41:32
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm like, oh, okay, let me come on.
41:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I come and come get me on your busy day, you know what I mean?
41:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know what I mean?
41:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We always compete and so it was like, come get me on your busy day.
41:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
41:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So Friday come, he loaded up.
41:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He got probably about 20 cars, 15 to 20 cars.
41:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I handle that, that's nothing.
41:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So we get out watching cars.
41:55
[SPEAKER_00]: He's taking on a field of tri- I say, come pick on a field of tri- you know what I mean?
41:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And you ain't got to pay me, I'm okay.
42:01
[SPEAKER_00]: But when I got out there, it was a difference.
42:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, this is easy to do.
42:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I can do this, nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like the work, you know, this is just, that's what I can do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not tripping by that, I was in prison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was walking down in a peanut butter sandwich for free.
42:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And you and ditches and you and I'm talking about, you see snakes that stop my mood, I'm mood, I need you snake, this is a snake bag.
42:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is something in your mind.
42:28
[SPEAKER_00]: If I can do it in prison, working for free, I can come out here and go 10 times harder.
42:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And work, because you got to work at this, it's everything is about, when prison was teaching me, work at this, you get up in the morning and go get it, okay, go get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: however you want to go get it go do it if you don't do it you don't get you don't eat you don't work you don't get money so for me doing those things and getting out watching cars it was nothing for me to do you did mention that you lost your daughter by the way
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in that whole gossess of, you know, from the back story of being an all-American football player, spending time at prison, and you know, starting off the business, and then unfortunately, you know, you lose your daughter like, what was that whole situation about and how did it happen for you?
43:21
[SPEAKER_00]: man it was on a day you know just a regular day you know going to work prepare you know preparing to get the day started and we had storms going there was a hurricane season and man when I tell you the hurricane you know came through didn't really damage nothing but not power I get a call and when I get a call not knowing what was it my mother said
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey Terras, what have you done?
43:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
43:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Detectors all around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They looking for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And no one able to get to.
43:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm waiting like I think tempo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, my mom ain't doing them, but my mom's like, I ain't feeling to go down, you know?
44:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But she was like, well, all right.
44:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going back to work and working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not knowing what is happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when she called me again, she was like, parents, like, you just lost her daughter.
44:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know how to take it.
44:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like, huh?
44:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what do you mean?
44:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, was she fighting for like, is she fighting for like, she died?
44:34
[SPEAKER_00]: She, you know, so it was like, my mind just like, blanked out, but just like, I can't be true.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I get the to the halls and I see everything and so then it's like, for me, it's breaking it's like, wow, like, you know, I just set them.
44:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, my mother was like, whatever I could do to help you.
44:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm here for you, so I'm like, for my mom like, you know what I mean?
45:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, not the question God will why happen, but it was more like,
45:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It just broke me.
45:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It just crushed me.
45:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it's, I still, every day.
45:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's a, it's a, I think, all, when I'm at now to be able to talk about it because when it happened and, you know, the funerary, everything like that, it took, man, it was a while, like, the long ride to the funerary home, I mean, to the larry side, it took forever.
45:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, when was it gonna get there?
45:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and I was just floating in,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the pauses was like, don't beat yourself up this night, you know, you know, just stay praying and staying fast and just, you know, but it really was a deep, it really broke me to the point where I didn't even want to visit the site or do anything.
46:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I was running.
46:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I could truthfully say I was running from it.
46:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to a church, and when I went to the church, they were talking about, you know, David and Galileo.
46:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And when they went, when they went to talk about that, I was just like, Lord, it's time for me to, because I wanted to get over with, because it was like a, no matter how much money I was making, no matter what I was doing, I was empty inside.
46:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I went, it went nothing that was alive for me.
46:30
[SPEAKER_00]: But thank God for my partner who I was with at the time when it happened.
46:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I was able to cope with it.
46:43
[SPEAKER_00]: basically by being around and being, you know, active in the business, they're making money, but I was chasing, I was running.
46:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just running front of the pain of just facing it, heading home.
46:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And when I was able to do that, like last year, I want to say about last year, I was able to go to the gravesite.
47:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I was able to go to the gravesite.
47:07
[SPEAKER_00]: like really like ask off of forgiveness, you know what I mean?
47:10
[SPEAKER_00]: It took me that long.
47:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And the wind was blowing everything was about that day.
47:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It was about, it was just different, you know what I mean?
47:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It was about tree, the oak trees, you know trees blowing.
47:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was more peaceful than anything.
47:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like thinking, God, like Lord, I think it, like no matter what Lord, I'm still here.
47:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Like my mind wasn't there, but I was able to
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[SPEAKER_00]: literally helped my partner build like a seven-figure business because I seen the good and hurt we was both on to an nurse and I was like hey you could make $1,000 a day that's what I was doing at day you know what I mean $2,000 $2,000 I may have a good they I may make $2,000 $3 but for me to be able to go out there make money
48:02
[SPEAKER_00]: and still come back and pour into her and the different ways to see that.
48:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I was more excited about her, so it says to anything like, okay, and she started that program.
48:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to touch her and like how did your daughter in the past kind of you said it was a hurricane season all that stuff.
48:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, see, uh, my, my, uh, my ex was actually together at the time we separated once we separated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, it was, uh, hurricane come, she left for, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: any time when hurricane is caught, I hate that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those things don't like it because it plays back into what transpired and I don't want to never hear those things of family member doing that because it's the accident and you know, she passed.
48:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, it wasn't nothing we flew out of Miami and I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: they could, they couldn't pop it out of her.
49:09
[SPEAKER_00]: She was, you know, she was young.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, being a baby, I think she was like five years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she was like five, six years old, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He kind of called it, um, yeah, I forgot it's another word for, I think, because like a silent killer, like kind of like, um, covering the outside, like poisoning, like this.
49:32
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's the word.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's why they kind of got their alarms going off,
49:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those things that you might not see.
49:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you might see the smoke.
49:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't hear the smell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's inhaling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those gas, those, anything like that, you can smell it, but you can't see it, but it's in the air.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anything, that's why they got the smoke detectors and not that have the carbon dioxide where it will alert if something that's going on.
50:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, that's it.
50:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely a touching story, you know?
50:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, definitely like like literally when I went through that phase it was just like I was out of it I was out of even with the the the car wash I had the guys I lost it's like I lost Interesting I lost like just not like I wanted to give up with it I didn't want to give up like the car wash and everything like that and it happened during COVID season
50:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But it didn't happen.
50:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying, like, for me, with the car washing everything like that, doing COVID season hit, which the business pick up, you know what I'm saying?
50:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we had a lot of things that could protect the germs and all that.
50:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was on point to do, but I think I just was out of it, like, you know what, I want to get away.
50:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to get away to another city and, you know, I don't always wanted, I always wanted to move out of Atlanta because I had a mobile detailing business.
51:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a van already done, and my cousin was already running it.
51:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like riding with everything that I had going on, like, you know what?
51:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take Ryder son to Atlanta.
51:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up investing in the van before I even get down here.
51:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So I flew down here, get him set up.
51:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's running, you know what I'm like, you know what I'm planning he sees in this, you know, and that is very big.
51:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So I know it's going to be a big company one day.
51:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, he was running for a while and doing good, you know, who was working at that was actually looking for a a car wash as well.
51:42
[SPEAKER_00]: That didn't work out.
51:44
[SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part, I just was seeing myself around new people, good people, and I always heard great things about Atlanta.
51:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So when we started visiting,
51:53
[SPEAKER_00]: going to the network and events, that's when I started seeing, I'm seeing the lambs, I'm seeing all of these, and I'm like, well, I'm from the had, he's called Nick, I'm from the, that's just how I work.
52:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling him this is just like, I seen it like, man, we've been it because I didn't have no pride of
52:10
[SPEAKER_00]: asking you for, do you need a car, it wasn't nothing, I don't care, whoever you was, I was going to ask you, and I was sending them like, you know what, that's when I went down to New York spot, and he had all, it was a new one of his events that worked in events, so I was like, oh man, I'm gonna kill it up here.
52:29
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's, that's, that's what I ain't going to like, it's good.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I'm saying?
53:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that was it.
53:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so, so did you end up packing up the, the car wash the detailing business?
54:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't pack it up.
54:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't stop it.
54:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, or you slowed it down, because when we moved out here, once I moved out here, it was like, let's figure it out.
54:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
54:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
54:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she was,
54:19
[SPEAKER_00]: everything that she was doing until this point.
54:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was just like, ugh, late.
54:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to get back into it, like, because every time I was just tell myself, it's like,
54:33
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're going to do it, you know you're going to be the biggest, you know you, that's just that voice inside of you like never quits like what's what you're waiting on.
54:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
54:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
54:43
[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned something too.
54:44
[SPEAKER_02]: That was key.
54:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You said, you know, you around that, I'm used going through all that stuff.
54:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You had a good partner.
54:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that was able, that she was kind of able to turn to.
54:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, even helping you find a hard money lending and things like that.
54:59
[SPEAKER_02]: So like,
55:01
[SPEAKER_02]: What is something like, especially on like going through a lot of things like that, like how important is it to have like a good partner in your corner?
55:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Or even like a girl or like a girl that you're, you know, you're committed to who you could kind of go out there and hustle together at the same thing, like I got the same job.
55:20
[SPEAKER_00]: that is, that's a keeper.
55:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you get a girl that want to get in the trenches with you, when you ain't, when you down, and that's a keeper.
55:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the most important thing because when the relationship is, it can be eye, it can be the ego on the man, and it's like, I don't, I'm gonna do me, I gotta get me because then, now you gotta think, how is gonna affect you?
55:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Both of us yeah, so somebody has to be the I want to say the one that's more like
55:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna step back and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be in a lot of my, you know what I mean?
55:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it has to be like that reciprocated, but the thing about it is when you have a partner like that that has a drive and you know she's, I mean, I'm pushing it like I see hey, you can do spa parties, she do the spa parties.
56:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I go to speaking to her like, hey, you can go make a thousand dollars a day.
56:19
[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't believe it.
56:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I started doing the things when I tell you, put her in a blazer.
56:26
[SPEAKER_00]: She wasn't exposed to that.
56:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So for me, I know by me who I am as a person, I know I was gonna expose her to those things.
56:36
[SPEAKER_00]: By she's thinking of blazer, like, I don't, that's for grum almost, that's for, you know what I mean?
56:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't wanna wear that, no, let's do it.
56:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we literally sitting in bed.
56:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like the things I seen that she's just what she was in a bad relationship.
56:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I know all about it.
56:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was just like, I don't want that
56:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Either I'm gonna be all in or it's just let it go like what I told just let it go because the most important thing is having a partner is y'all reciprocating those things speaking life into one another and not just be selfish and you get on and you feel bad like name you ain't pointed to me
57:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And then even too, you know, like you're doing business with your partner in, you know, soon to be wife at this point, like you got, like you already crushing in the real estate.
57:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And right now, we're in you guys' place, like, what was the process like to go out there and find this deal?
57:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So that way you guys can secure this opportunity to make more money.
57:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You start bringing more money into the household.
57:39
[SPEAKER_00]: As an entrepreneur and as an investor, you want to be able to grow your money.
57:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Your money work for you, not that you put in all the hours to work for the money, you got to start setting up things long, you know, three to five years, you know what I mean?
57:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And investing.
57:58
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it takes.
58:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Now a lot of times I know we will told it happened overnight.
58:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't it doesn't happen overnight You got to go through the rough stages.
58:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to go through the losses that you thought that you lost.
58:10
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a lesson It was a you know like Learning those things in business it takes time to grow you got to get around the right people and put your your business
58:23
[SPEAKER_00]: make it visible for the people to come in.
58:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So investing in this space here is definitely a great thing.
58:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the thing about it too, you guys are more like you do the service for the people.
58:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you guys go out there, help set up events, help run the events.
58:40
[SPEAKER_01]: But now you got your own venue at this point where people could come rented out, they could come use the spot, they could come
58:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And now that's more opportunities for you guys to grow like what was because I even know like for you guys what was some of like the the biggest challenges on on on getting your first deal like Securing your first commercial unit so that way I could start going
59:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I could tell you, man, like, we took a hit.
59:09
[SPEAKER_00]: We took a loss.
59:10
[SPEAKER_00]: We lost probably about $40,000 in the deal one time that tried to start to get a vent space coming out of the first day, they've been actually not his own on the door.
59:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So we was out of, we, so in her, you know, for me, it was a testing thing for me to as well because when you lose $40,000, now that is just no for us.
59:32
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
59:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to be mindful for me and my family that I don't make the wrong mistake.
59:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't do the things that would cause me to go back to prison.
59:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So you got to fight it and you got to fight it from a lawyer's perspective.
59:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to put those things in place So when you're as an entrepreneur investor you must have your ducks in the row have your lawyers everything is that's gonna protect you because one false move now I go back and hurt if I was to you know me do things like that now I put her in the bad situation her brand
1:00:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have to think for just not to for us.
1:00:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
1:00:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And I can be trans-parented those moments was coming back to me as a street guy coming up as an instant I'm but you got to go you got to you know to me.
1:00:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to go pray I had to pray man All right, I ain't gonna just hold you tell you that it didn't cross my mind to go up there and But for what because either either
1:00:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a slow, slow situation, you know what I'm saying?
1:00:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause then now guns or anything get involved, it's crazy.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to think that moment when that happens.
1:00:52
[SPEAKER_00]: So it would help me as a person.
1:00:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So it kind of, it kind of reminded me of cause you know,
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, especially when you lose money or you see yourself having a bad deal, it kind of reminded a situation like right now with Poo Shasty, he realized he was in a bad deal, and he went and tried to force you know, which man is on it, but now he's in a lost lost situation, still to him, still, now he's in jail too, so
1:01:25
[SPEAKER_02]: The fact you had that, that level of like, you know, maturity, and it's just to be like, to be like, nah, I ain't gonna do that.
1:01:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't gonna do it.
1:01:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to.
1:01:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't tell you, I wouldn't be, I'll be lying to you until you, that thought process didn't.
1:01:39
[SPEAKER_00]: like you solve for like those that's the enemy you like you need to go how long that you know what I'm saying yeah I wanted it I was talking to him peacefully I I did you know it kind of got out of I say you know what I ain't gonna dress it no more because it will go now
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So you got to be, you got to have a second troll, man.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I was learning all of those things in prison, dealing with different inmates, you know, correction officers.
1:02:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So in that process of to up to the day, I know that it played a major role in my life, coming out of prison, treating the people where I nod, that's just now, it's a difference.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the fact.
1:02:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And then like, what do you think you probably went wrong?
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[SPEAKER_01]: In that $40,000 real estate do, what was the biggest mistake you probably, not sure they have done?
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Not vet it that person out, you got a vet that person out, you got to actually do your research.
1:02:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It makes sound good when it's me and you talking and hey, I own this building, and you thinking it's got trustworthy, you know, you got a nice whip, you know, he's robbing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and really novel back and down, and it's, you know, for me, I had to take that, like, that was a lesson that you've that you're, you know, that whoever you doing, doing business with, that amount, and make sure that, you know, you got to paperwork, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to jump it before you wrap to, I didn't want to actually look a bit, you know, just about the, you know, the real estate experience, like, what is something like, like, what would you say is that you're most profitable deal, and what went into that also, what is something that you know you're working on now?
1:03:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.
1:03:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, uh, man, like I say on first ball to deal, it was a wooden house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We end up 10 out of wood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you turn on a wood, it's, it's, uh, you know, you got, uh, termites, you got the old wood, damages, and everything.
1:03:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So we've thinking to put about $30,000 to get it back up and running.
1:03:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So we can get the rental, we can rent it out.
1:04:01
[SPEAKER_00]: We wasn't even thinking to sell automatic.
1:04:04
[SPEAKER_00]: We was just thinking to get in some cash flow going in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, sell it in probably a year or two, let the value goes up, that could go up.
1:04:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But I tore it down the wood, they stopped the project because it was turned by damaged.
1:04:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So we ended up not mind you just by having a good friend of mine, he was a real estate, he was already invested.
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, team man, you know you the messed up, right?
1:04:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, yeah, because I did the things that like not being a G.C.
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You not able to make that decision.
1:04:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking already, no cause I know I hang up John Raw, not a doodles, things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now it's I need a GC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He like to you know you to messed up, man I'm like man, so they stopped the project once they stopped the project He stopped it.
1:04:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the city stopped the county stopped it.
1:04:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They came in because they you know the guy came in seeing it He stopped the project when he stopped the project all day
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So, my, you, we got two for one deal.
1:05:08
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a brick house over here.
1:05:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And that, we could put like 5,000 in, put a little tile, put some paint on it, and put a tending inside.
1:05:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But this one here had a completely stop.
1:05:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And when I tell you, we ran out of money.
1:05:23
[SPEAKER_00]: We ran out of money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we was like, what we gonna, what happened was the hard money lender on us more money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to finish the project.
1:05:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So now we have forced the sale.
1:05:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we got a sale like when we finished rehabbing it up we're going to sell get out of this hard money lend a deal because it's only a intros only loan.
1:05:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So intros only loan that means you're on the page.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The intros you ain't paying going towards the principal.
1:05:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Until you pay it all at one time, you got to pay it like, okay, it's 65,000 put the 10 in, you know, it's 10% that was 65.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, you know, give a take with the closing calls, probably about 73,700, 400 bucks, okay.
1:06:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So we all in, but then once we started rehabbing the place, we ran out of money.
1:06:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I was running out, the department of London, long does more money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what are you doing in a situation where you midway through a project?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You run out of money?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You ain't got nowhere to turn, you ain't got nowhere, no more money to pull from, like, how do you still manage to pull out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the green, at least breaking even for some like that.
1:06:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I would tell someone, you know, running into that problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will never run into that problem anymore because I know how to go get lines, I credit, you know, for the banks to leverage.
1:06:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
1:06:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the, you know, one of the first projects.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I had to learn from that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would tell anybody you can go get lines of credit from, you know, Navy federal, you use your personal side, but you can PG it, be a person to guarantee it, where you can pull from your business.
1:07:08
[SPEAKER_00]: and not alone, so separate, and not go to a few banks like Chase or PNF in capital.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, those credit unions just build relationships.
1:07:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're able to go get the lives of credit to go purchase a deal, meaning liquid they the cards.
1:07:27
[SPEAKER_00]: You would liquid that the cards put money off the cards to go buy this deal.
1:07:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So now I would never get in that situation ever again.
1:07:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And even like even, you know, back to that situation, if you had like a general contract that do you think you probably would have saved more money than the end of course to you.
1:07:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
1:07:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
1:07:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
1:07:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Most important that I teach everybody how to let's make sure you got to G.C.
1:07:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You got your general contractor and you got an inspection.
1:07:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get an inspection on a house before you even purchased it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you got your GCN place, that means he's going to give you a scope of work.
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_00]: What all going to need to be rehab in side of this place and how much is going to cost in the materials.
1:08:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So basically he'll give you an estimate of, okay, we can do it in about $25 to $30,000.
1:08:16
[SPEAKER_00]: now you know exactly what you're going to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would tell anybody get G.C.
1:08:22
[SPEAKER_00]: walk the premises once you walk it make sure you check now you can't check the electric or the plumbing because there's no electric there or you may get one of those disgrace properties where the electric has been torn up.
1:08:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Not on the 10, somebody broke into it, stole all the copper-wise, so you don't even have no electric.
1:08:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so that's looking to average probably about 70, maybe five to $7,000, it depends on how big it's the square footage.
1:08:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And then too, like, I feel like, you know, of course, if you get into GC, like a lot of times you, you know, we didn't interview so many people that's doing it, let's say, we didn't hurt all the crazy stories.
1:09:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how do you find the right general contractor that you know you can trust and actually work with?
1:09:10
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of times, like I tell people, you can go on better business bureau.
1:09:14
[SPEAKER_00]: BBBB.com, you can go on better business bureau and you can Google wherever state you in.
1:09:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You can be able to pull up eight, they got like eight pluses, eight pluses where they got credibility at, where you'd be able to vet those, you know, contract is out.
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of times you don't know, you just going off of the trust of showing up, but I was always tell people like, don't pay them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: all your money.
1:09:38
[SPEAKER_01]: All your money.
1:09:39
[SPEAKER_00]: These pay I'm 10 to 15% different phases.
1:09:43
[SPEAKER_00]: As you go, they finish you pay them.
1:09:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't just give them the money because they can run off with their money.
1:09:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
1:09:50
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good point.
1:09:51
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, this was a really good one.
1:09:53
[SPEAKER_02]: This is definitely a whole other game.
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_01]: One last thing before we wrap, how do you find the property though, like to go out there and start investing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, a lot of times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For example, this one is a great one.
1:10:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm gonna tell you, I've went on loop net to find the commercial bit, any commercial space or anything like that loop net.com.
1:10:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But for as like houses, the scratch properties, I would tell anybody to go on investor level.
1:10:18
[SPEAKER_00]: invest investor lift.
1:10:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you got investor lift.
1:10:21
[SPEAKER_00]: You got prop screen Those two I always play off of but once you get in an ecosystem where you call in these you know These people that has wholesale deals they'll be start they'll start sending you out deals every day
1:10:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can go on investor left.
1:10:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I was because it's a disgrace property all over.
1:10:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Once you find a deal, you just send an inquiry saying, hey, I'm interested in this deal, get on the phone, and give them more, you know, give them a few questions like asking what's wrong with it before you even walk it.
1:10:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
1:10:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And then what's like the top states and cities usually like to invest in?
1:10:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, right now we we're investing in Florida and Georgia.
1:11:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we moved out here.
1:11:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So now we're looking for land building, you know, more like acres and so on.
1:11:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So then I can be able to go in and be a 20 to 40 units.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're in that process now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After this commercial space, we got this commercial space up and running.
1:11:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's on the list now.
1:11:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know what?
1:11:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the fixing flips which is good, I love it, you know, that's what I teach people to get a few fixing flips up under your belt.
1:11:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
1:11:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you could take that money, go get your, get your big belt and set it, get some build and stuff.
1:11:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But build that cash flow up, get the experience up under your because it's not easy just saying, hey, I'm investing my money and then I'm gonna make $50,000.
1:11:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank God.
1:11:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I first did, we made $97,000.
1:11:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.
1:11:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the game changer for me just being like never did it and so for me to do it and make a 97,000 out of profit it changed the game like, oh, I'm never, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's for real like we sold that one sold a wooden house and then we kept the block so now we got it's free and clear and we make it like 200 hours a month still.
1:12:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Steer this right in $200.
1:12:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's passive income coming in on top of that 97,000 most and that house was worth like $165.75.
1:12:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So who was the sell that deal up?
1:12:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but we can leverage it instead of selling it with leverage.
1:12:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.
1:12:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And then like what's some of the big goals that you're working on right now?
1:12:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to help people right now.
1:12:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just wanting my goal is to help families, change people lives and get them to the point where either they're financial free or they just, you know, at peace, they got a couple of deals, and they make a money.
1:12:55
[SPEAKER_00]: That's good, that's good.
1:12:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And like last thing I did when I actually two was like first space, like because you mentioned commercial first space,
1:13:05
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, what are some areas that you guys are looking at cash flowing, like what's the math going into this?
1:13:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Because events, people love to host events, meet-ups, doing photo shoots, business, headshots.
1:13:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So looking to, as a cash collar, I would say, because it has to turn over, it has to make sense.
1:13:30
[SPEAKER_00]: investing in a commercial space, it has to make sense.
1:13:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And doing it the right way.
1:13:37
[SPEAKER_00]: See, we, you know, not going in with the plan.
1:13:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, second, like, you know, you're going to, you don't have that plan, right?
1:13:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think just giving up people,
1:13:52
[SPEAKER_00]: place to come and network safe, you know, is in and out.
1:13:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And just looking at it as a cash guy, looking at it to turn over some good money.
1:14:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I mean average at least 20 to 30,000 dollars.
1:14:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And what areas like, like, is it, do you, because I know you guys do, like,
1:14:10
[SPEAKER_01]: when it comes to venues, you guys rent by the hour.
1:14:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, are you guys gonna do like church on some days where church comes through running out?
1:14:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoever wanna come in, it's for the community.
1:14:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So we don't have any target.
1:14:26
[SPEAKER_00]: We're targeting entrepreneurs, automatic.
1:14:28
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, entrepreneurs for show, right?
1:14:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But if somebody outside an entrepreneurship wanna come in and rent a space, we can, we, you know, it's an option.
1:14:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, so I think just you know, just it's being you know, we have it once we're really lunch You know, just like it's gonna be a great thing Yeah, I do have one last question before you wrap What's the market in look like for for a place like this like when you come to it renting out event space?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The market is always, because build is always commercial space is always big.
1:15:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would tell anybody, I mean, if you can invest in a commercial space, it's definitely
1:15:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.
1:15:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I think real estate is like, you know what I mean?
1:15:15
[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm doing with the fixing flips is nothing different.
1:15:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just commercial.
1:15:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right.
1:15:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Different things coding, you know, permits that need to be pulled when open up a space.
1:15:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
1:15:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think for what I do, how I'm teaching people how to find the deals, get funding, using hard money lenders.
1:15:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And when I say hard money lenders, that means a private lender where the documents they need is a cash flow, meaning bank statements through to six months.
1:15:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't even have to have a good credit score.
1:15:50
[SPEAKER_00]: They look at it, but I mean any way from 10 to 15, any way from 10 to 20% down on any deal.
1:15:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're lonely, you're money, they quicker because if you had to go through the banks, you got to need the statement, you got to need the two years, two years tax returns, you got to need everything, you know, but hard money, Leonard, they'll take the risk.
1:16:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And most of them, they, they buy the deal, it's about the deal that they purchasing.
1:16:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So if it's like, for me, I would say the, I would do like 70% rule, you know, where you're able to
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[SPEAKER_00]: ARV times, just say for instance, if it was $200,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you would times that by 70%, 70% is $200,000.
1:16:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's what, $140, correct?
1:16:38
[SPEAKER_00]: That's $140,000, sure.
1:16:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just saying, I've just done something almost $200,000, 70% of that, that's 140.
1:16:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And you would deduct the scope of work.
1:16:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that will be your bottom number where you'll be able to purchase that deal.
1:16:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So you will be, you'll be under either you're going to be under or over.
1:16:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
1:17:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It's no, because then you can look at it.
1:17:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in between, because you can look at a deal with the emotions you can get like, I won't, it's deal, but if the numbers aren't right, the hard money Lenders aren't going to even cut the check.
1:17:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So you gotta do your due diligence when you're looking for those with that property, do your due diligence, and make sure you know your numbers before you even buy the deal, or even place it on the contract, because you gotta put your earnings money down.
1:17:29
[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't want to waste no money, make sure you got your G.C.
1:17:32
[SPEAKER_00]: your general contractor, and you have an inspection on that property before you even place it on the earnings money on the contract.
1:17:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's good stuff, that's good stuff.
1:17:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And he last found the words that you like to leave with the audience, bro.
1:17:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I just want to say, man, trust in God, man, trust in the most hot, I mean that.
1:17:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody else can tell you different, but trust in God.
1:17:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just the things that I, I ain't going to say, wish I would have earned, but knowing now, listen, listen, be a listener.
1:18:11
[SPEAKER_00]: you know it's okay to listen to the right people yeah if you don't want to trade places with that person that's doing bad don't take advice for them don't tell your dreams to a person that you know you want to kill your dreams and tell it to somebody that that support that support it and push you and just keep God first man I think God is for me is the most important thing because without God I'm not
1:18:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good stuff.
1:18:40
[SPEAKER_01]: How can the people find you by the way?
1:18:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You can go on Instagram, Mr. Fine to flip and as well as my Facebook Terrence Wilson.
1:18:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
1:18:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Fine to flip as well and all platforms.
1:18:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have it, y'all?
1:18:56
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a good one.
1:18:58
[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of the ones where I definitely feel like it was 100% organic and you gave a fantastic story and definitely, you know, just appreciate you for
1:19:11
[SPEAKER_02]: being real, bro.
1:19:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Being real.
1:19:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.
1:19:14
[SPEAKER_00]: When I see y'all, I love that.
1:19:16
[SPEAKER_00]: When it's like, even when I first met y'all, it's inspiring to me to see y'all, man.
1:19:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you, like, it's like good.
1:19:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, dang, like, that's good, man.
1:19:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And when I see the motion in the sense, I'm like, that's dope.
1:19:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think just most important, man.
1:19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Be you.
1:19:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Be true to yourself, man.
1:19:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You know?
1:19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't be around here doing things bad and expecting something good going to happen.
1:19:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do it.
1:19:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be bad or you're going to be good.
1:19:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't describe it to the fans.
1:19:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
1:19:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Either you're going to serve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You deserve one.
1:19:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Two guys.
1:19:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to serve one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the end of me and, you know, so God, if you're doing right, only good things gonna happen.
1:20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
1:20:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so I encourage everybody, man, leaving yourself no matter what, no matter what you're going through.
1:20:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't overcame prison, I didn't overcame, I mean losing my daughter, tragic, like, and God still got me here.
1:20:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think, I think God, I'm grateful, got a family, you know, and just, you know, supporting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get stuff, y'all.
1:20:29
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