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AEW Highlights and Dynamite Preview - Homecoming! · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday night. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with
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aw fan of I'm your host, Kelson. We've got Dynamite from Daily's Place
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and looking anybody has ever watched any of the historical Dytamites rampages from Daily's Place.
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One thing's for short, it's gonna happen tomorrow night. Two things are
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for sure that's gonna happen tomorrow night. One is that Sting for sure is
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going to wrestle tomorrow night and retire at Revolution two. There's a very good
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chance we're going to see a debut or a return or some kind of listed
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a story that we didn't see coming. Well, we're going to talk about
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that later. Before we get to that, I do have something that I
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wanted to share with the community. After die, we do a podcast called
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All Lait Talk, and for the first time in a really long time,
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we're taking it to open mic. So join us for All Lead Talk right
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after Dynamite, right here on the discord. We'll put the link and everything
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in the description for this podcast video or whatever you're watching this on or listening
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to this on. Join us tomorrow night, right after Dynamite and let's just
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have some fun. Let's just open up the mic and let's talk aw with
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aw fans. That's what this aw fan hub is all about. So let's
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get started. I'm here with Sleazy C and our brand new member of our
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podcast team, Alex. And guess what I'm gonna throw Alex right at the
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fire, Sleezy. What do you think? What do you think? Yeah?
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I can tell by boys. Let's see. Let's see how good Alex
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is. Alex couple things, a couple of things wanted to talk about it,
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So talk about it. Let's get this going. Let's get this show
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on the road. First thing that I'm really intrigued about has been the the
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meeting between the Acclaimed and Bullet Club Gold. I know on Dynamite last week
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we saw Bullet Club Gold get interrupted or sorry the other way. The Kingdom,
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the Undisputed Kingdom in Adam Cole. They got interrupted by Bullet Club Gold.
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Jay White. He was out to get revenge for the attack of the
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Devil and his goons from a few weeks prior or months prior, and they
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he brought out the ass Boys, who we hadn't seen for a while because
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of the Continental Classic with Jay White. They made their way to the ring
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to fight with the Undisputed Kingdom and the numbers Game caught up to the Bullet
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Club Gold. Ward Low and the to the Undisputed Kingdom were beating them down
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and then the Acclaimed made their triumphant return, who we hadn't seen them since
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they were beaten by the Devil and his goons and Anthony Bowens was thrown through
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that glass window. So yeah, they came out. They made the save
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for Bullet Club. The Undisputed Kingdom was outside of the ring. The Acclaimed
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and Bullet Club Gold were all in the ring together. The crowds started chanting
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for Scissor Scissor Yes, and it was an awesome moment. And then the
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heel Bullet Club Gold just kind of looked at the Acclaim and left the ring.
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Yeah, yeah, and I thought that was an awesome moment. Yeah,
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it was an awesome moment. But do you think there's a future with
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that? And so why why do you think there may be a future with
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a team with Bullet Club Gold and he Acclaimed? Well, I think yeah,
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we saw on collision kind of the continuation of that and Anthony Bowen's in
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a backstage segment basically said to the Bullet Club Gold, Jay White and the
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Ass Boys, He said, you know, there's factions are a big part
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of aw and having people behind you is a big way to get ahead,
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so you know, maybe we should join forces. And Jay White seemed to
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kind of scoff at it. But Austin Gunn was like, said to Renee
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afterwards, He's like, you know, maybe that was a yeah, yeah,
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and yeah. I mean these two groups they have a lot of history
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and I didn't think of that when when it first happened on Dynamite, but
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there's a lot of history between you know, the Acclaimed and Bullet Club Gold.
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So Alex, yeah, we had Bullet Club Gold and the Acclaimed out
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there, and you know what, it does make a little bit of sense
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because they do have one thing in common. Juice Robinson is not there because
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of an injury, and Daddy Ass is kind of not there because he's basically
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on the road to retirement. He he's not interested in traveling anymore. He
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doesn't want to be that guy that spends time away from his family, you
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know, and his home life. It's fortunate there his two sons, but
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it would be neat if him and his sons kind of got back together for
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a run here, because honestly, I don't see Daddy Ass being with the
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company two years from now. You're at least not in the in the in
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the active rig presence in championship matches where I do see Austin and Colton being
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in there. You know, do you kind of agree with that? Yeah?
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No, absolutely, Yeah, I don't. I see Daddy Ass having
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you know, a good year left. And I think he does want to
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be there with his son and I think he's proud of them and wants to
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be there with him, but also probably not too close, like he wants
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to let them do their own thing. He'd his shot. Yeah, he
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doesn't want to live vicariously through his sons, and I think that's one of
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the points why he's with the Acclaimed is because he would have overshadowed his sons
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in every way, shape or form. Another thing. I just think that
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Bullet Club Gold has been a bit stagnant in terms of you know, they
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they haven't reached that next level that I do think they can because I think
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everybody in Bullo Club Gold is great and I think the Acclaimed after winning the
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Trios titles, They've just kind of been meandering and not doing a whole lot.
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So I think putting these two groups together, in my opinion, is
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just potentially unlocks so much more for both these groups. And I could see
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them being like the biggest stable in aew if they put them together, just
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because everyone in that group is so much fun. They say crazy things like
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Max Caster with his raps, Juice Robinson with his ad libs. I just
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think there's so much potential with that parent right, Yeah, I mean,
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would you agree to bulla club Gold is missing Juice Robinson's presence right now.
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Absolutely, He's a huge part of what makes them fun. I think Jay
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White's kind of dry just on his own. Yeah, I mean, he's
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not meant to be He's meant to be the leader, I guess and the
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mouthpiece in a serious tone for the group, whereas Austin and Colton and especially
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Jus Robinson are meant to be the entertainers, where that's not not the role,
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I guess is the best way to put it at Jay Whites in Yeah,
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but I feel like he has that in him, Like if there's instances
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you can watch on YouTube where he's doing like press conferences with for Wressell Kingdom
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or for like New Japan, where there's no filter and they just say whatever
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they want. And he's pretty crazy and pretty funny and just as out there
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as Juce Robinson is. But you haven't really seen that side of him in
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ae W and he has been kind of you know, generics maybe not the
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right word, but pretty pretty, you know, straight laced. Yeah,
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So I have to say something here is that I'm very proud of myself because
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I actually called Juice Robinson by his name, which I don't normally do.
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No. I I came up with the dick daved like as soon as he
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debuted, as soon as Juice debuted in AW, and I never call him
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Juice Robinson anymore. I have Nick David, Juice Robinson, Muppet, Jesus
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muppet. Okay, when you look at him, you would look like if
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Rover and Jesus had a baby, it would look like Juice Robinson. So
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that's just the reason. I just have to bring that up because I'm because
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people that have listened to this podcast before and are like, what is he
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talking? What is Kelson talking about Juice? Who? Oh yeah, muppet
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Jesus, that guy. Yeah, I mean I've even put Muppet Jesus in
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our videos and stuff like that, so you know, it's just he's Muppet
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Jesus to me, and that's that. And I'm going to keep saying it
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till it catches on. Muppet Jesus. Yeah, I don't want to say
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some of the nicknames that I have for wrestlers in case it did catch on
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and then they heard about it and came after me, because well, look
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at it this way. If you came, if I wait for the Muppet
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Jesus a w branded T shirt, and I'm gonna make I'm gonna say,
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look, this is looking listen to our podcasts. I dubbed him up at
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Jesus back in July of last year or June of twenty twenty three. I
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deserve a take on this. You give me one cent for every ten churchs
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you sell, and I'll take my ten dollars and I'll leave. And I'm
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imagining, I'm imagining someone puts together like a photoshop picture of Rover with like
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Jesus's hair and robes. I would do it, do that for you,
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Yeah, I would do it. Anyway, Let's move on. You know
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what I'm gonna I'm gonna throw it the Sleazy for his one of his segments
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here, Sleazy because you had something that you wanted to talk about, So
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let's have you talk about it and we'll talk about it. Yeah. So
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there's something really important that people tend to not talk about in the world of
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AW and that's the importance of indie reps. Here's the deal. Some of
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these wrestlers they just get signed with no indie reps. I've made I've put
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together a list here of all the wrestlers who I believe right now they need
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more indie reps. So the first one and the most necessary, number one
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priority for indie reps is Parker Boortdoa, the former law the former member of
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the totally successful faction of Trustbusters. He has he was only in the WWA
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for like five seconds, then he was in AW. He's been nowhere else.
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He needs those reps desperately, especially after the last match he had where
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it sounded like he injured himself, he injured his tag partner and almost injured
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the people who they were facing. Uh. Now, I'm just gonna go
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down the list here a bit fastcause you know, we can't talk about this
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for eight hours. Hook, Nick Wayne Abdon, Kiera Hogan, Layla Hirsch
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and and one of aw's newest signs. And this might be a bit controversial,
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but I think Mariah May needs more indie reps. I know, she
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had that crazy run in stardom where I check age match, she had ninety
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nine matches in stardom. But just because you had ninety nine matches in one
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company, that does not mean you're ready. Okay, get you got to
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get out there with more indie companies. You know, travel around, see
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see what works, see what doesn't. You know. So those are the
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people who I believe need the indie reps right now at the moment, and
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then they can come back to TV and then they'll be a lot better than
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they are now. That was kind of surprise that you said. Hook.
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Yeah, speaking speaking of which, I feel like I need to explain what
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is the moment? Why is indie reps so important? First off, it
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gets you the thing you need the most ring experience. If you're on like
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let's say you're signed to AW free example for a real quick example, you're
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signed to AW, but they're not putting you on television I mean, at
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least in AAW you have the opportunity to at least go to some and go
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to indie shows whenever you want, with few exceptions, because it deals with
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whatever, and the fact of the matter is you need to take advantage of
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that time to get those indie reps in and improve your ring work. Maybe
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face against like let's say you're a regular brawler wrestler or whatever. Take the
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chance to work with some lu cha doors, take a chance to work with
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some technical wrestlers. Take a chance to maybe go to All Japan Pro Wrestling
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and wrestle against guys over there. You know, being able to get out
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in the indies and wrestle plenty of wrestlers with plenty of different styles will teach
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you what you need to know in the ring. And more importantly, it'll
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because like here's the other thing, AW right now has had a bit of
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a problem with injuries, and having more experience in the ring with all those
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styles, given how diverse the AW roster is, will definitely help decrease the
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amount of injuries. It's not gonna permanently stop them, because of course,
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it's it's a business, you know, wrestling injuries happen all the time.
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Yeah, but that kind of wrestling experience is needed now. The other thing
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is, you know, you might be able to learn how to tell a
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good story to the point where you'll be able to get up into the car
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or maybe find a good place where you are. You know, just indies
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help raise your stock unless you're in the WWE. But other than that,
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you know, in these can can help raise your stock. Like let's say
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you had a really good run with the CMML CML Mexican National Heavyweight Championship,
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which, by the way, is the oldest championship in the history of professional
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wrestling, like the oldest active one, older than NWA nineteen thirty three.
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So anyway, the fact of the matter is like, let's say you had
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a crazy run with that. With that, everyone went, whoa, that
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is so cool? In awc's that, I'm like, you know what,
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this guy's been working pretty hard. Sign him and then you get and then
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you get all that opportunity and stuff. But that doesn't mean to stop going
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to the indies as soon as you get aw Yeah, I'm do you go
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to indie shows, Alex? I mean, what do you think about this?
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It's been a while since I've been to an indie show. I have
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been watching. I signed up for Fight Plus they had a boxing day deal,
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so I have been watching some more GCW and MLW. Yeah, I
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definitely agree with some of the names you listed, Like abd On, I
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think it's pretty apparent that she could get some more reps under her belt.
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Same with Layla Hirsh a couple of names that like Nick Wayne, I find
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that a little surprising because he's like an indie darling in my mind, and
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he's had years and years of indie reps. I feel like, like since
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he's been old enough to legally wrestle, So I find that a little surprising.
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And I'd be surprised if he's not actively on the indie So maybe he's
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taking a break, I guess. Yeah. The other name that comes to
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mind when you're talking about indie reps is Jade Cargill, And I know she's
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not with the company anymore, but that's somebody who you like, who stands
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out as someone that really would have benefited from indie reps. And I think
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now that she's gone to the other company that they they feel like she needs
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more time in the oven. Yeah, I mean that's one of the problems,
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especially with the women's division, that I think Tony Kahn has run into
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is that he was using AWTV as indie reps for his wrestlers. Let's face
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it, I totally agree with what s Leasy about abad On. You can
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also say the same thing. Not currently maybe, but they could have used
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it when they had the opportunity to use it. Anna j Julia Hart know
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there. You know, I think Julia Harden especially is has reached the point
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where she's a a a good professional wrestler right now. I mean, she
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can hold her own. Added j. I doesn't. I don't think Anna
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Jay gets the credit for how good she is. Kiera Hogan there's another one
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that's definitely used. You know, uh when Kiera Hogan's on when she did
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her r OH run, I mean she was really good at r o H.
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But you know, then she comes to AW she gets jobbed out.
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Kind of a weird thing because Athena is the same way she's doing fantastics.
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She's a champion, she's she's busted up chops all over AW. She comes
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to all over r o H. She comes to AW and she gets beat.
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Let's just face it, aw AW uses Athena as Kennon fodder. I
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think I feel like Athena is going to be treated better next time she comes
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up, because yeah, she's made herself undeniable and ring of honor, and
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I think all the fans realize that. And when she does show up again
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on actual AW proper, you're gonna get treated a lot better for sure.
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Okay, moving right along, Sleazy, there was another topic that you wanted
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to talk about. Yes, I want to talk about the current state of
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commentary. You know, as we enter Aw's I believe fifth year, you
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know it's good to maybe take a bit of stock at the current state of
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the commentary because commentary, you know, it's a very important part of the
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show, and if you don't have good commentary, then you're not really gonna
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either get excited for what's going on or you might not even understand what's going
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on. So first, I want to review the current commentators. And I'm
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specifically talking like people who are consistently on the table, So no Mark Henry,
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no Ian Roccobby or whatever he's down Bomby. I'm specifically talking collision rampage
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in Dynamite. First off, Jr. He's I'm gonna be honest, he's
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being kind of non existent un commentary. Oh yeah, it's JR. For
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a few seconds, and then he doesn't really seem to add much anymore.
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I Mean, the dude's seventy two's and he's on the He has to be
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on the tail end Man second off ex Caliber. He is essential to the
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AEW experience. Okay, when I think of AW commentary, one of the
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first people I think of is Excalibur Man. He is the play by play
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guy, especially way back during that specific All Out twenty twenty two, or
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at least the build up to it, when he had to do the you
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know, play by play trying to say all the matches for that pay review.
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He literally lost his breath halfway through. But it was a valiant effort
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just to try and you know, play by play all the matches that are
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going to be happening on All Out, you know. So for a play
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by play guy to nearly get through all the matches before losing your bread,
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especially in the experience he has, that's pretty impressive. He sounded like he
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was about to give himself an aneurysm. You know, he just he would
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not take a breath. He was just he was running on fumes. Put
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it that way. Yeah, but it was admirable how he tried. So,
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now here's this guy who's carrying commentary right now. It's Tats. It
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is clearly tas. His voice is just you know, it's it's clearly heard.
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He's always trying to, you know, be a professional about things now,
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even with you know, the certain biases to a certain belt. But
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anyway, other than that, you know, he's very analytical and keeps the
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whole table together. He is carrying the booth right now. Then we have
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Tony Schiavanni. He's pretty much the work course of everything. You know,
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he's there, he's you know, we see him as a bit of a
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punching bag. But except for the times where he's like, all right,
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listen up, you pricks, you know, but other than that, you
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know, he's pretty much the workhorse of aw. I love Tony Schavanni,
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but I also hate him on commentary and that like a lot of the things
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he says are just He's often saying, oh, that's the first time I've
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seen that, and then it's something I've seen like a week ago or two
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weeks ago, and I know he was on commentary. It's like, I
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feel like almost ninety percent of the things that Tony Schiavanni says is like,
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I'm just my jaws on the floor, like what is this guy talking about?
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But I love him and he is just like in the woven into the
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fabric of aew and special shout out to when he's in the ring doing those
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in ring interviews and the person's inevitably mean to him and the way that his
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body just kind of like ring, which is pretty good. Yeah, I
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will finish your list, all right. So the final on my list is
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Kevin Kelly. He's just quiet and all. Honestly, I'm not saying that's
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a bad thing. You know, quiet commentators, you know, as long
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as they're with the right mix of commentators, can be a good thing.
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You know, they're they're they're quiet, but you know they also say stuff,
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and you know you always need the guy who's quiet but also says stuff
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in a commentary table like in Aw's company. Right now, So that's the
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list. Now what I need to talk about is the future. Here's you,
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miss Nigel. Did you mention Nigel Mcgainno, No, he didn't mention
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Nigel. Oh he's the number one with a silver bullet. Oh well,
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okay, look before things get a bit off the rails with that, I
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need to mention the other point of commentary that I needed to bring up tonight.
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It's the future of AW commentary. Let's face the facts, okay.
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Ian is their youngest commentator at age thirty six, Tony Shavani is sixty six,
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Jim Ross is seventy two, Kevin Kelly is fifty six. So you
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know, it's it's quite clear, you know, you need to start prepping
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potential new guys to maybe you'll come in and you know, start speaking on
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the speaking on the booth too. And there are plenty of candidates as we've
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seen last week during Dynamite, like Eddie Kingston and Matt Minard and you know,
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but even before this when AW Dark and Dark Elevation Worthing, Paul White
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and Matt Minard were burning it down on commentary, everybody loved it. I
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know, I want the ones to love that. They were great together.
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They just had they had a report. It just could be beat. Yeah
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exactly. You know, so I think right now AW definitely needs to start
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preparing future commentators on the commentary table is it's very important, especially given what
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I just said about those ages man, especially Jim Ross. I mean,
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it's not like he's gonna be gone from aw entirely, as he still has
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plenty of the bring to the business in general. But the fact of the
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matter is, you know, in terms of the commentary booth, there's gonna
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be a time where he has to take a swig of barbecue saw us lay
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down the hat and loop off into the Cowboys sunset and be like bard Well
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sleazy. Based on what you said, you're the gist that I get of
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it is you think the TAZ is the MVP of the the commentary team right
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now? Yes, I honestly think he's the MVP carrying right now. That's
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that's not to say that everybody else sucks, you know, He's just he's
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just carrying the booth and bringing it and bringing it to New Heights this year
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and in the tail ends of last year too. Alex, who do you
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think is the MVP right now of the of the commentary team. Yeah,
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for me, it's it's definitely been Nigel McGinnis. I just think he's like
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found himself as the heel commentator. I love all his bits with like worshiping
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Christian Cage. He's just been so much fun and clam digger Brian Danielson.
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All yeah, that's great, never never missing an opportunity to put Brian Danielson
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down. I love it. Yeah. I mean, here's my opinion.
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When you look at somebody like Excalibur and Tony Shavani, I could also throw
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Taz into that mix as well. The one thing that they give you is
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consistency. They're gonna have their off nights, sure, but more often than
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not, they're on their game and they're good. I don't feel like Nigel
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has that yet, but he's getting there. Kevin Kelly left his commentary duties
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for n JPW a few months back, and somebody on the aw fan hub
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subreddit started a pretty interesting conversation saying, shout out to Kevin Kelly for the
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work he's been doing. That's helped him a lot leaving NJPW because he's been
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doing a lot better. He could talk about the wrestlers with more knowledge now.
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Because he's not traveling eighteen hours every week back and forth to do these
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different shows, he's able to study the product. He is more knowledgeable now
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about the wrestlers and the product that's being sold into the ring. In the
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ring, he's actually gotten a lot more funny. And I really do think
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having the third man on collision, Tony Shavanni on collision, has helped Kevin
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Kelly a lot because Shavanni has been able to shoulder a lot at the load
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that Kevin Kelly just couldn't do, you know. And that's fine. I
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mean, I prefer a three man team because the dynamic between Kevin Kelly,
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Tony Shavanni and Nigel are is working right now. Where Kevin Kelly and Nigel
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didn't work. Ian Ricabonni was better, you know. But Ian Ricabonni he
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doesn't want to do all that traveling. So yeah, I tho's what it
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is. My favorite was, Yeah, Ian Ricabonni and Nigel. I just
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thought that was spectacular. But yeah, I think I think everybody would say
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that they especially at the beginning collision. Ian Rickabonni was the man. He
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was. He just did a fantastic job. As I alluded to earlier in
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the podcast, we are having Dynamite from Daily's place this week, and if
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you've looked at the history of Daily's place. We've had so much going on
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at this particular venue. FTR, I believe was debuted at Daily's places.
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FTR debuted at Daily's place. Sting debuted at Daily's place, and I want
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to I mean, we're talking and the man that dynamite is being produced for
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as a tribute to tomorrow night in memory of the Exalted One, mister Brodie
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Lee, Rest in peace, Rest in peace, brother, miss you a
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lot. There's a really good video on YouTube right now, produced by All
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EAT Wrestling, so you can see it on the All Eat Wrestling YouTube channel,
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and it's like over an hour, and it's like an hour and forty
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nine minutes long, and it's basically, well it's not basically it is a
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retrospect of AW at Daily's place. And it's definitely worth the watch because you
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look at some of the most important things that have happened in AAW have happened
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at Daily's place. Like I said, returns, debuts, just stories,
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literal stories have happened at Daily's place. So that brings us to this.
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I have the match card up on the screen, fellows, so you can
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look at it, and there are a few matches on here that don't look
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like they're special at face value, but when you dig a deeper dive into
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it, there is some kind of really interesting Daily Place esque value to these
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matches. Does anybody see anything in these matches that stands out to you right
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away? Or do you want me to point one out? The one thing
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that stands out to me is that men's four way match. Yeah, and
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I did see it mentioned on Reddit, so I think that's what put the
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idea in my head. It's not entirely original, but you see Preston Vance
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in the Yeah, yes, and he one thing I know about Preston Vance,
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and I'm sure we all know, is that he's very closely tied with
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Minus one, Brodie Lee's son, and that match it does look like who
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would have put all these guys together. I don't know if it was Tony
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Kahan, maybe it was booked by Minus one. It was definitely Tony Kahn,
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but I think he edited mine. Maybe he went the negative one and
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asked him like, who do you want to see in this match? And
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I feel like those four guys Edge Orange Cassidy sort of Adam Copeland, Orange
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Cassidy, Dustin Rhodes Preston vanced. I feel like those four guys were put
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together by by a negative one. I mean, at first I was gonna
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say, wait, you do know that Preston Advance isn't in the dark order
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anymore? Right, But then you meant from an IRL perspective, I was
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like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So
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anyway in terms of me, you know, probable unpredictability within the card,
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I mean, I'm gonna have to go with the Klonio and Hangman thing.
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It's like, what the Heck's going on there? As the BCC versus Hangman
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Adam Page thing being rekindled, or is it just further descent into this new
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story arc of Hangman where he's just crazy and wants to beat the crap out
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of everyone always missing as an exploding barbed wire death match to fix it.
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You know. So the fact of the matter is what the heck is?
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Where the heck is his storyline going to be going from here before the match,
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during the match, after the match, you know? But yeah,
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yeah, but this whole card, you know, it does present aw continuing
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to blur the lines of where people are in their islands of their story pockets
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and instead, it's just all one island and everyone's beating the crap out of
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each other, and I love it. Well, I want to revisit the
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eight man tag match because there's a couple of things that people have been pointing
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out on social media that is very true. We're talking about a show that
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is meant as a I wouldn't say a tribute, but it is a memory
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of the Exalted One, mister Brodie Lee. And if you look at this
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card, there's no Dark Order members on this card. I was just about
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to say so, but then you have a former Dark Order member who is
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a member of l FI currently who have not been on the screen at all,
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you know, But you have a former Dark Order member in this eight
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man tag match, and he's kind of like one of these things doesn't belong
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here because Preston Advance is a heel and he's on the team with three of
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the strongest babyfaces, pure babyfaces in aw's Men divisions right now. So here's
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my spicy prediction is that we're going to see Dark Order during this match.
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We're going to see Negative One during this match, and I think you're gonna
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see an emotional moment between prest Advance and Negative One. And my spicy prediction
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of this match is that before before Preston Vance goes to the back and goes
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into the locker room, he's going to do two things. He's gonna hug
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and apologize to Negative One, and before he goes to the back, he
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will be wearing his mask again. And the Dark Order is going to be
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complete and they're going to start seting Belign another storyline for new members of the
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Dark Order to come in, because you can't talk about Daily's place in AW,
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especially the early days of AAW without talking about Dark Order. Yes,
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and have a have a show and memory of Presst Advance without Dark Order involvement
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is preposterous to even consider. So I'm very in that prediction. I am
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very confident and most that most of my prediction is going to come true.
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Do you guys have any thoughts of things? Yes? So do you think
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that Preston V is going to continue to be a member of the Dark Order
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after that? I think that the storyline is going to point in that direction.
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Now, whether it comes true or not is well, let's face it,
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Preston Advance was doing very well with Dark Order when they was allowed to
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do something. He's not really done anything with LFI, and he kind of
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looks like an outsider with LFI where he looks like he belongs in Dark Order
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and Negative One. He's you know, he's getting up there at age what
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is he thirteen? Now? You know he's going to start getting involved a
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little bit more as time goes on. I mean, he's not traveling with
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them every week, but he's going to show up, you know, from
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time to time. And this is a perfect time to bring Preston Vance back
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into the Dark Order. And I honestly believe that that's going to happen.
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Mm hmm, yeah. I know, like Russia is injured and so he's
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going to be off TV for a while. And agree that Preston Dvance doesn't
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really fit in LFI. It's kind of like a square peg in a round
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hole. So yeah, I do like that idea. And Stu Grayson he's
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been MIA, so maybe that's an opportunity for him to show up again.
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I like it. I'm I would be happy if what you predicted happened.
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All right. So then there's another match that a lot of people are talking
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about on social media. That's the Women's eight Women Tag Match. Look at
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this and tell me that this is not intriguing. You've got thunder Rosa,
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Chris Statlander, Willow Nightingale, and Anna j of all people, kind of
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similar to similar to prest Advance. Anna Jay is kind of the odd woman
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out in there. She's been a heel, but here she is on the
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babyface team. And then you got Julia Hart, Sky Blue and Ruby Soho.
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Now keep in mind a couple of things. Did we or did we
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not see Anna Jay kind of paling around elbow to elbow with Sorea for a
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few weeks there until Harley Cameron stepped in. We did, And don't forget
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with the you're gonna probably see Harley Cameron with the heel team on this one.
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Obviously, hope Stokely Hathway has been involved or trying to get involved in
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the storyline with Chris Statlander. So I think you'll see Stokely Hathway for sure
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tomorrow night. Maybe there's gonna be a rift between Statlander and Willow Nightingale.
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There's we know that we've seen it that it looks like Sire is about the
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backstab Ruby Soho. So that's another angle that you're looking there's so much going
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on here that Lander lost her title to Julia Hall Art the TBS title to
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Julia Hart, who did not pin stat Lander. You have two former women's
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World champions, Soireya and thunder Rosa in this match, I fully expect.
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I mean, there's so many things that could happen after the badge or even
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during the match. Yeah sorry, Jelo Parker, Angelo Parker appearance or one
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of my wife's personal favorite angles going on right now. Yeah, well,
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everybody loves a good romance, and you know, you know, so between
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this Angela Parker, Ruby so and Samy Guvara and Chris Jericho, the romance
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is in the air because, let's face it, the romance between MGF and
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Adam Cole is over now why rest in peace? But anyway, here's the
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thing, I mean, not only just looking at the combatants in the match,
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there's so many things that make sense to happen. You could have Tony
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Storm come out and confront Soirea and Ruby Soho for the obvious to portrayal that's
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going on there with Harley Cameron and whatnot. Thunder Ross probably ticked off at
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at Tony Storm because remember Tony Storm won the tournament to win the end at
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the time, the interim Women's World Championship that thunder Rosa never lost. So
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we can go the whole I am the real Women's World champion thing. We
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can go that route. I don't know, I don't well, it'd be
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a pink X but you know, but it's the kind of storyline that Tony
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Khan probably would want to go go do because he just told me, right.
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And and then you've got Diana Parozzo, who I would see all this
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and say, no, I'm calling out Tony's you know, and you know,
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Chris Statler's out there and she's saying I'm a world championship contender as well,
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and will Nightingale probably say what about me? But I'm the former TBS
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championship. You just had the ohen you know kind of thing. So I
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think you can see a rift between Dan Lander and uh Willow developed last Tomorrow
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night. And then of course you have every opportunity if Mercedes Monett is going
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to come out, Daily's place is the place that it's going to happen at,
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because that's what Tony Kahan does. So there in this match alone,
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there is it's a convoluted mess. And don't forget Mariah Bay will probably be
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out there with Tony Storm, so there can be I mean, you're looking,
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there's eight women in this match, four on each team, but there's
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literally sixteen women in this match. It seems like because it's doubled. Yeah,
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you know what I mean, it's there's so much potential. I'm not
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saying that every one of these storylines by far, I'm not saying every one
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of these storylines is going to pan out. But what I am saying is
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that there is a potential to do so much with the women's division tomorrow night.
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It's preposterous. Yeah, yeah, I love that. And I can
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just imagine in my head, you know, all these things happening, chaos
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in the ring, and then Mercedes Monet's music hits and she comes out and
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everyone's just like Wow. There's people that are excited by about Mercedes Monet,
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and there's people that are not excited about Mercedes Bonett. I'm not excited.
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Well, you know, she's a big star. It's a big deal.
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You know, Mercedes Monet, she is probably one of the two or three
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women in the world who are most responsible for what women's wrestling is today.
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That's a fair statement. Yeah, and I think that that means something and
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it would be a big deal if she goes up. There's a few matches
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on this card that they've kind of make sense. They kind of don't look
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at like Sabbi Gavar and Ricky Starks. Who benefits from winning this match and
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who who shouldn't can't afford to lose this match. I don't think either of
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them benefit or lose anything by winning or losing this match. This is just
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a match. I don't think it really matters because they're still gonna be Semi
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Gavar and Ricky Starks. Again, this may be a match that has some
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connotations to it. We've already took you know, Claudio casting you Only in
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Hangman Adam Paige. That's a fairly random match with something that's going to happen
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there Claudio and casting only versus Adam Paige. That match, to me feels
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like Adam Page getting a win before he loses this we're of Strickland. That's
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what I see that as. But I could be wrong. It could go
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differently, but I feel like definitely out In Page is gonna win that.
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Then you have the what appears to be the main event, which is stacking
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Darby Ellen against Kenoski Takeshta at Powerhouse Hobbs. But it's merit. I don't
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see this as a main event match, you know, but because it's daily
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place, it may be a main event match. Look, you know,
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here's the thing about this card. To me, You've got some really big
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names in this card. What about you, guys? Is there anything that
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stands out in this card that you're looking forward to the most or something that
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you're like, I'm not really looking forward to this that much. Well,
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I mean, if I'm being completely honest, I mean nothing is jumping down
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at me per se. But you know, I mean it is interesting throughout
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the entirety of the card, and you know, it's an interesting Dynamite that
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I'm gonna catch this Wednesday night on Dynamite, right, And I'm I'm excited
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for Ricky Starks versus Sammy Guvara. I think that's an exciting matchup. Well,
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I think they're two young aw Originals who are up and comers, and
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you know, Ricky Starks I'd like to see him go over, but I
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don't know. I think it's gonna just be an exciting, fun match.
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Well, that's fair enough. And then the Kenoski Takeshta and Powerhouse Hobbs versus
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Stinging Darby Allen. I think that match to me, just to get that
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follow up from Dynamite, that like amazing match between Takeshta and Darby Allen.
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Just to see them in the ring again is gonna be awesome. And I
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guess unfortunately Stinging Darby Allen have to win just because thing never loses. But
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yeah, I think it'll be a good match just for in ring action.
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I don't know about the story coming out of it, but I'm excited for
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that as well. Do you think going into Revolution that they're going to plant
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the seed of doubt on that and go ahead and give him his first loss
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heading into that? Do you think his shoulders are going to be on the
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map for a one two three at any time before a Revolution? No?
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I don't think so. Now what about you, Sleezy, No, No,
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I think it's better if this story is being came in undefeated and left
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undefeated. I think that's fair enough. And then we have Samoa Joe coming
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out, you know, and we'll hear from Samoa Joe, So we have
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no anything on that. Yeah, yeah, I guess they could be leading
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to him talking about Hook or maybe setting up a new feud for the next
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pay per view. I don't know. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see
45:52
where they're going with that story, you know, what's interesting to be And
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it goes back to what Sleezy said earlier. We saw a Hook call out
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Saboa Joe for a AW Men's World Championship title, you know match, and
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yet then Sleazy says that Hook can use some indie reps. So Sleazy,
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are you saying there that you're kind of like me and looking at the Hook
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and Samoa Joe prospective match with a what kind of attitude? It's not with
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the what kind of attitude? It's more of a oh god, Hook needs
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indie reps. He's not ready kind of outlook, you know, because I
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mean, don't get me wrong, he has the FTW Championship, but the
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fact of the matter is he still needs those damn reps and he's not ready.
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If AW is planning on Hook versus Saboa Joe for revolution, is that
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a smart move or a bad move? And that is not the correct move
46:57
to do. All right, What about you, Alex, what you think
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of that? To me, that's that's like a dynam My main match.
47:05
That's not a pay per view match. I really hope they don't, right,
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I agree with you. I mean, I have nothing against Hook,
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you know, but he's not a main eventor yet. If you're gonna have
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Samoa Joe be a viable world champion, you gotta put him with main eventors
47:22
Adam Copland. You know, it is a good face to face him,
47:27
even Darby Allen, if you want to go that route. And that's actually,
47:30
yeah, you bring that up. That's kind of one a thought that's
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been in my brain because this is the big thing revolution pay per view and
47:40
having that main event was Sting in Darby Allen's corner after whatever Sting matches earlier
47:47
in the night, and Darby Allen winning the title off Samoa Joe and they
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have history too, that could be like an awesome moment things mentorship like realized.
47:59
I have a funny suspicion. I have a strong suspicion that we're gonna
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be enlightened tomorrow night with several things that maybe some of us didn't even see
48:09
coming. Because it's looking at this card. It just it. It's an
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odd card, and I don't mean that in a bad way. I'm just
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like, looking at Preston Vance on on the baby Face team and Anna j
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on a Babyface team, I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see Preston Vance
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and Anna Jay rejoined the Dark Order tomorrow. All right, then, Well
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for Sleazy C and for Alex, this has been Ignition with aw fan Hub.
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Good Night, everybody,