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Eric Weddle on what needs to get better for Utah after the bye, Bye week's in college vs the NFL, How are the Chargers this bad (?) + mor... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: Against the Chicago Blackhawks. We'll be talking about it a
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  Speaker 2: lot as the season progresses. I put a poll question
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  Speaker 2: up about who do you think, starting from today, who
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  Speaker 2: wins a league championship first, Utah football. And I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: about NCAA football championship, the big one, right? Utah football,
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  Speaker 2: Utah jazz, Utah mammoth, or the as yet twinkle in
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  Speaker 2: the Miller family. I major league baseball team that we
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  Speaker 2: think is coming to the state of Utah. Eventually these
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  Speaker 2: are lofty goals. Who wins one first? Right now we're
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  Speaker 2: talking Utah football. We're talking NFL football and we're bringing
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  Speaker 2: in the best guy to do it on both fronts.
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  Speaker 2: That of course is the Utah football legend, the super
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  Speaker 2: bowl champion, the head coach of the Rancho Bernardo Broncos,
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  Speaker 2: Eric Weddle.
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  Speaker 3: What's up legend.
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  Speaker 4: What is the word? Are we, are we living good?
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  Speaker 4: Are we being great?
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  Speaker 3: Always.
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  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful day here in salt Lake city.
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  Speaker 3: Perfect temperature, blue skies, hockey tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, a bi-week for Utah football, which if
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  Speaker 2: I'm being honest, I don't love, right? We get into
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  Speaker 2: this rhythm for the season and then you're like, ah, crap,
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  Speaker 2: there's no game this week. But I guess, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we'll spend it watching general conference instead or something.
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  Speaker 3: As a player, how did you approach bi-weeks? Did you
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  Speaker 3: enjoy bi-weeks?
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  Speaker 2: Is it something that you didn't like because it got
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  Speaker 2: you out of that rhythm I just mentioned? What's your
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  Speaker 2: thought on the bi-week as a player?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, shoot. Like bi-week during college was like a normal week.
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  Speaker 4: So I think, I think back in the day we
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  Speaker 4: get like, we got like Friday, Saturday, Sunday off, but
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  Speaker 4: it was like a work week. And then for the
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  Speaker 4: guys that didn't get a play or young guys, like
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  Speaker 4: you were, it was like scrimmage every day. which was good.
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  Speaker 4: Like you gotta, you gotta get the work in and develop.
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  Speaker 4: And then in the NFL, it was awesome because it
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  Speaker 4: was like, we're, we're barely, we're, we're just recovering from our,
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  Speaker 4: from the bodies and getting, getting healthy and kind of
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  Speaker 4: getting recharged. So I always look forward to it. Cause
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  Speaker 4: then it gave me an opportunity to go like go
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  Speaker 4: somewhere on the weekend, go to a game. Like a
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  Speaker 4: lot of times I'd come out, come back to see
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  Speaker 4: the Utah game and, or go home. We were Baltimore though.
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  Speaker 4: That weekend was always a time that we come back
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  Speaker 4: to California. So I enjoyed it. And I think it
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  Speaker 4: was always much needed for the body. And then for
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  Speaker 4: just to recharge.
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  Speaker 2: This Utah football team, we we've been talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of for the bi-week, if you can change something,
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  Speaker 2: if you can alter something, you can adjust something, you
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  Speaker 2: can fix something.
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  Speaker 3: In the bi-week, what would it be?
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I want to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: everybody knows I'm talking, we're being real nitpicky here.
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  Speaker 3: Cause this is a good team. This is a four
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  Speaker 3: and O team.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to reinvent the wheel here, but if
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  Speaker 2: there's something you have seen or have not seen from
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  Speaker 2: this team, Eric, that you want to coming out of
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  Speaker 2: the bi-week, what Morgan Scali calls you and says, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: what do I need to fix before we get back
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  Speaker 2: to action against Kansas? Is there something on the top
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  Speaker 2: of your mind?
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  Speaker 4: Wow. Uh, you know, after four weeks, there's always, like
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  Speaker 4: you said, little things to work on. And I, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm not really in tune with like, you know, how
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  Speaker 4: efficient are we on third downs, red zone offense, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the efficiency on first and second town creating big plays.
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  Speaker 4: I know that that's going around of, how many times
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  Speaker 4: we're throwing deeper and then completing. So it's really looking
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  Speaker 4: at like the big picture and overall, you know, team-wise, culture-wise,
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  Speaker 4: maybe doing something fun with them. I would probably do
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  Speaker 4: something of that nature. But off the top of my head, honestly,
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  Speaker 4: it would just be the techniques and fundamentals and the
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  Speaker 4: little details of just playing football. So I would most
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  Speaker 4: likely just focus on being tackling better, blocking better, being
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  Speaker 4: more fundamentally sound on what we're being asked to do,
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  Speaker 4: like almost going back to the basics of each position
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  Speaker 4: group and really honing in on those coaching points and
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  Speaker 4: less on scheme work. You know, the scheme is worked
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  Speaker 4: out for the coaches getting ready for next week's game
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  Speaker 4: and adding different wrinkles in and understanding where we need
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  Speaker 4: to get better at So that would be just from
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  Speaker 4: a coach's perspective now is more emphasizing the little details
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  Speaker 4: and the techniques and fundamentals that the boys are being
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  Speaker 4: asked to do.
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  Speaker 2: I've been complaining really since week one about the defensive
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  Speaker 2: ends having a hard time finishing.
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  Speaker 3: They're getting there. They're pressuring. They're hurrying.
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  Speaker 2: They're getting some hits. But we're still waiting for defensive
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  Speaker 2: ends to be productive defensively. and to generate sacks. And
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  Speaker 2: I've asked you some version of this question, probably 50
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  Speaker 2: times in the past, but playing in the backend, playing
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  Speaker 2: defensive back and, you know, knowing when a quarterback has
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  Speaker 2: to throw off schedule or when a quarterback has to
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  Speaker 2: throw on the run because he's flushed out of the
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  Speaker 2: pocket or whatever, how crucial to what you do on
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  Speaker 2: the backend is that pass rush, especially if you can
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  Speaker 2: get it with four guys with your base rush.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's huge. And I think the game is a
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  Speaker 4: little bit different in that aspect of how you call
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  Speaker 4: certain situations like third and long, you know, third and
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  Speaker 4: medium per se. Like, you know, in the NFL, the
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  Speaker 4: ball is going to come out with it. You just
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  Speaker 4: have an internal clock. Because one, these quarterbacks don't want
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  Speaker 4: to get hit to the coordinators. Don't want to get
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  Speaker 4: their quarterbacks hit three, your quarterback goes down, your season's done.
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  Speaker 4: So there's so much riding on that position where in college,
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  Speaker 4: it's just, you get these athletes and you get these
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  Speaker 4: guys that can run around and make guys miss. And that's,
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  Speaker 4: it's just like a different kind of mindset. And you
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  Speaker 4: have to be a little bit more understanding, like those things,
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  Speaker 4: the ball's not always going to come out. Like it's,
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  Speaker 4: quarterbacks are so regimented to hit that third, third, to
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  Speaker 4: hit that third stop, third step. And if it's not there,
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  Speaker 4: you get one hitch and then the ball's out, right? Like,
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  Speaker 4: and you really train yourself and the routes and everything
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  Speaker 4: goes with it. So the defender, you're, you're, you have
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  Speaker 4: an internal clock and you're really eliminate and anticipate and
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  Speaker 4: really like jumping routes, knowing the timing of where you're
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  Speaker 4: at on the field and the timing of the play.
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  Speaker 4: So you have to be wary of that as a
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  Speaker 4: defensive back. and in college is much different. Like third downs,
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  Speaker 4: you play coverage. And a lot of times, like we're
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  Speaker 4: not getting there because of the, you know, we, you
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  Speaker 4: don't necessarily have those edge rushers that are the elite
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  Speaker 4: of the lead that if you leave them one-on-one, they're
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  Speaker 4: probably going to win. So for our, for our defensive end,
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  Speaker 4: you just gotta keep working on like facts come in
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  Speaker 4: bunches and any time the coverage with it and then
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  Speaker 4: the pressure package. So I don't know. I think it's,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's something that, you know, when you bring
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  Speaker 4: that up, I think it's something that they could work on,
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  Speaker 4: and I think it's something that they'll get better at.
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  Speaker 3: Again, I'm being real nitpicky here.
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  Speaker 2: If you have to manufacture your pressure with, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a blitzing linebacker or you've got to creep a corner
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  Speaker 2: in to come off the edge or whatever else, and
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  Speaker 2: that shows on film, and now an opposing offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 2: is able to, you know, predict that or is able to,
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  Speaker 2: to try to work with his quarterback to recognize it
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  Speaker 2: and say, all right, you're going to throw into that
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  Speaker 2: empty space that is being created by the blitzer. You
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacked the defense so many times to, to counter move
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  Speaker 2: the counter move, right? So how effective can you be
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  Speaker 2: comparatively if you have to manufacture pressure other ways and
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  Speaker 2: make sure that you don't leave those, those gaps, those
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  Speaker 2: vacancies that, a good offensive coordinator, a good quarterback, are
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  Speaker 2: going to recognize or are going to exploit?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's tying in the disguise and the
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  Speaker 4: movement with the brush, with the blitz, and then understanding, like,
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  Speaker 4: you don't just blitz to blitz, right? So if you're
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  Speaker 4: trying to manipulate, one, the ID and manipulate the rules
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  Speaker 4: of pass pro, right? Like, you can... by your front
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  Speaker 4: and by your alignment of your linebackers who are mugged
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  Speaker 4: up in there or in line in the B gap
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  Speaker 4: or on the edge, you can basically determine how they're
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  Speaker 4: going to, how they're going to block you from the
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  Speaker 4: offense perspective. Are they going to go three man zone
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  Speaker 4: and man ID the other way with the back? Are
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  Speaker 4: they going to go four man side? Are they going
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  Speaker 4: to go full slide with the Y and the H
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  Speaker 4: coming back? Like you can know that. So then you
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  Speaker 4: build your pressure package off of that. So you're going
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  Speaker 4: to get free runners, right? Like, If you're blitzing just
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  Speaker 4: a blitz, which in most cases they're not, like they
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  Speaker 4: do this work, but in most cases you want to
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  Speaker 4: make sure that you're building your pressure package so you're
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  Speaker 4: getting to the quarterback. Because if not, then you might
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  Speaker 4: as well play coverage and then deal with it then
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  Speaker 4: cause now you got an extra guy or maybe you
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  Speaker 4: have two extra guys. And then on top of that,
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  Speaker 4: you can also add in Sims where, you know, we
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  Speaker 4: got linebackers that are freaking good. So building in simulated
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  Speaker 4: rushes where you could play there, you know, five under
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  Speaker 4: two D you could play, you could play a normal
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  Speaker 4: four into three D because you can roll coverage where
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  Speaker 4: the corner is now playing a cloud. and then roll
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  Speaker 4: the safeties over the top, like different things like that,
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  Speaker 4: where you're blitzing a linebacker, but dropping an end. And
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  Speaker 4: now you're getting one-on-one with the back, which in the league,
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  Speaker 4: if you get one-on-one with the back, that's a hundred
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  Speaker 4: percent win for the defense, because that linebacker is going
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  Speaker 4: to beast that running back every time. So then adding
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  Speaker 4: those types of things in the word, now you're still
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  Speaker 4: having seven guys in coverage, but you're now getting a rush.
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  Speaker 4: You're getting a one-on-one with the back, which is, which
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  Speaker 4: is always a great opportunity for the defense.
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  Speaker 2: Eric Weddle is our guest here talking all things Utah
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  Speaker 2: football for now on the Sean O'Connell Show. How many
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  Speaker 2: times in your career did you have an interception taken
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  Speaker 2: away from you by a replay by a referee saying
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't a catch? We saw that happen to Rabbit
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  Speaker 2: Evans this last week, and it was egregious. I thought
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  Speaker 2: that the replay was going to correct it, and then
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  Speaker 2: it didn't correct it. And look, he did a great
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  Speaker 2: job of just continuing to play and continuing to excel
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  Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I'm petty, man.
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  Speaker 2: I would be finding that referee's address. I'd be like,
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  Speaker 2: I needed that interception. Why did you do this to me?
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  Speaker 2: How many times has that happened to you in your career?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, man. Over a replay or.
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  Speaker 2: Well, just where you're like, that was a pick and
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  Speaker 2: they didn't give you credit for the pick.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I've had numerous where they gave you a
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  Speaker 4: bogus holding call or... a PI call that never happened.
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  Speaker 4: That wasn't for me. It was like another player during
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  Speaker 4: the play. So I've had, I've had a few of those.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Did that, it didn't that happen when you had like
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  Speaker 2: a game ceiling pick in a, in a year in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 2: And it was like, you guys were either going to
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  Speaker 2: make the playoffs or not based on that game ceiling pick.
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  Speaker 3: And they took it away from you.
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  Speaker 4: Speaker 3 6th and then three plays later, they went
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  Speaker 4: 40 yard touchdown and our season was done.
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  Speaker 3: Terrible.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that play so distinctly because it was a
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  Speaker 2: phantom defensive hold or it.
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  Speaker 4: Was just standing at 10 yards and the receiver ran
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  Speaker 4: through them and they both fell and they called them
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  Speaker 4: a whole holding. I was like, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like, just like, just like the one in
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  Speaker 4: the Rams game. I mean, the same, same, like how
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  Speaker 4: just in my, in my thought process of it all,
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  Speaker 4: like rest, rest of a hard-knock job. My, my issue is,
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  Speaker 4: is why not the judge, the side judge that was
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  Speaker 4: in front of the play who sees it clearly not
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  Speaker 4: meet with that rep and say, all right, what'd you see?
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  Speaker 4: Here's what I saw. I don't think it was PI.
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  Speaker 4: Let's pick it up. Right. Like the back judge obviously
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  Speaker 4: threw it and maybe he saw whatever he saw, but
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  Speaker 4: is clear as day. So in rabbit's case, like I, the,
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  Speaker 4: the announcers were saying, this is a pig. They don't
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  Speaker 4: get a call. And then of course the Fox, whoever
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  Speaker 4: the old ref is that just comes on there, gets
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  Speaker 4: paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to come on for
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  Speaker 4: 20 seconds. I need to get that job.
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  Speaker 2: .
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  Speaker 3: .
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  Speaker 4: And half the
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  Speaker 4: time you're just siding with the rest because you're an
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  Speaker 4: old breath.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: And so, yeah, that was, there've been some, definitely some
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  Speaker 4: calls out there so far this season. You're just like, well,
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  Speaker 4: especially at the NFL, like, you don't know if you're
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  Speaker 4: Patrick or Holmes and you get touched with a pinky,
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  Speaker 4: you're getting a rough in the pastor every time, even
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  Speaker 4: though the dude does exactly what the textbook says of
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  Speaker 4: hitting hands up, falling off and still get it where
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  Speaker 4: it's like, Where are we going? Do we want to
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  Speaker 4: make this game unwatchable? Because sometimes it is.
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  Speaker 2: As a defensive player, you were in the league for
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  Speaker 2: the near two decades of when a lot of this
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  Speaker 2: stuff was really being put into place to favor quarterback play,
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  Speaker 2: to explode offensive numbers and things like that. And you
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  Speaker 2: hear guys, defensive players especially, say like, hey, are we
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  Speaker 2: still playing football?
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  Speaker 3: What am I allowed to do? What am I not
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  Speaker 3: allowed to do?
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  Speaker 2: How big a part of the discussion is that in
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  Speaker 2: your film room, in your locker room, when you're going
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  Speaker 2: up against especially the Chiefs or especially when it was
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  Speaker 2: Tom Brady or whatever, when you feel like these are
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  Speaker 2: the players the league is going to protect, we have
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  Speaker 2: to alter the way we play against them. Is it
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  Speaker 2: something that actually goes into a game plan?
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  Speaker 4: Actually, it does. How to tackle... how to tackle certain guys. What,
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  Speaker 4: what are the rules? Like we, we have days where
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  Speaker 4: we have the rules officials come in, they explain the rules.
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  Speaker 4: Then we get in these, like not arguments, but we're just,
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  Speaker 4: and they're, they're like, in most cases, the restaurant on
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  Speaker 4: our side. So it's just like, Hey, this is, this
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  Speaker 4: is what we're being told. This is how we have
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  Speaker 4: to call it. Uh, this is how you have to
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  Speaker 4: do it. And like, so it's a good back and
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  Speaker 4: forth conversation. The day to day, it's like, it's like, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: do I agree with, what SC did after the play
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  Speaker 4: of with the Dante Moore. Of course not. Like I don't,
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  Speaker 4: I would, the kid would be kicked off my team
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  Speaker 4: if they act like that. Right. And I don't, you know,
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  Speaker 4: get into specifics. Maybe it was other things, but the
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  Speaker 4: way you acted, but really the play of is not
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  Speaker 4: a dirty play. And it's not like an egregious, like
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  Speaker 4: the dude is already committed to tackling Dante Moore. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: Dante Moore, you need to slide earlier. Yeah. Right. You
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  Speaker 4: need to slide earlier or like real court, like not
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  Speaker 4: real quarterbacks or players, but if quarterbacks just started going
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  Speaker 4: first and actually like understand how to take hits and
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  Speaker 4: run the football, you're not going to get hurt. How
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  Speaker 4: many times have we seen that exact case? or their
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  Speaker 4: head hits the ground because they're sliding, like, quit sliding.
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  Speaker 4: Or if you're going to slide, slide five yards early
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  Speaker 4: so you're not going to get your head knocked off
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  Speaker 4: because these dudes are coming, and we're not– we cannot
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  Speaker 4: stop in that situation. Like, the only way to be
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  Speaker 4: able to stop is you're a safety like I was,
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  Speaker 4: and I knew these guys were going to slide, right?
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  Speaker 4: But linebackers aren't thinking like that. Like, and they don't
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  Speaker 4: have enough time and space to really gauge the runner
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  Speaker 4: and gauge when he's going to start to lighten up.
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  Speaker 4: You can feel it as a tackler. These other guys,
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  Speaker 4: it's too much. You're just chancing it. Unfortunately, he got hurt,
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  Speaker 4: but to say that guy was a dirty hit, that's
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  Speaker 4: just people not knowing ever played football.
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  Speaker 2: Is it time to accept the fact that Jim Harbaugh
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  Speaker 2: is not a great NFL coach?
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  Speaker 3: He might not be a great college coach either.
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  Speaker 2: He's good at the weird sign stealing and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: But the Chargers are off to a disastrous start. High
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  Speaker 2: expectations this year. His welcome wore out in San Francisco
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  Speaker 2: after not too long. Is it time to just accept
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  Speaker 2: the fact that maybe the NFL is not where Jim
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  Speaker 2: Harbaugh needs to be coaching?
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  Speaker 4: It's just, it's pretty interesting. I don't really have really
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  Speaker 4: a pinpoint answer why. The only thing that history has
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  Speaker 4: told us as he has good turnarounds. And then over
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  Speaker 4: time it, it putters out and then he leaves or
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  Speaker 4: he loses. And so I don't know, like I've talked
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: to a few guys and they all, they all like them.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: They think he's a little corny at times, but they like,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: they think he's real. I think he's genuine. I think
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: he's like, that's just, that's just Jim Harbaugh. Like he
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: just does just weird things, but I don't know why
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: they are so bad. I don't think they've, it's kind
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: of been known over the years. Like they've missed on
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: some guys on the perimeter. Herbert makes a lot of
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: these guys better than what they are. The offensive line
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: has been in influx. Like when you have your two
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: first round guys hurt or not playing last year. And
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: then this year there, I don't know. I haven't really
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: watched many games to this really like say what the
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: issues are, but to be all in three and looking
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: at that schedule and potentially being all in nine, like
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: you're not going to be favored in the next, six games.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know how they recover. And then what do
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: they do moving forward? It's just, it's just, it's just unfortunate,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: but I don't, man, it shouldn't, it shouldn't be happening, honestly.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: But when you got like first round picks that can't
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: catch the ball and they should have never been picked.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I think that was Telesco's last year. Like that was
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: one of many blown draft picks. that sets you back,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: and then how do they keep trotting that guy out
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: on the field? When you think about their perimeter athlete players,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: who's going to go win some one-on-ones for you? If
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: you're relying on Ladd McConkie, that's pretty good as a
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: third guy, but not as a number one in the NFL.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Ladd McConkie catching strays here on the Sean O'Connell show.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Poor guy. He'll love to see it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, who's the, who's another guy that John,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the Jenkins, Jenkins, the first TCU guy is awful. I've
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: already said that. I don't even know who else they have. Right.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Like who, who else is their players? Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: They, they don't.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you, when you're talking about weapons, weapons
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: on the edge and by the way, everybody's on the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: injury report right now, which may or may not be normal.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: You're, you're, you're in a bad spot right now. If
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: you're a charger fan and.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: And listen, I root for all small white receivers. Like
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: there's not a lot, all, a lot of us. So
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: it's not anything against them. It says you're, we need
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: you as a number three. We don't need you as
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: a number one.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: .
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: .
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  Speaker 4: .
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  Speaker 2: .
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: We're talking about playoffs, not a game.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, her.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Little shout out to her members for all you in
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: the listener that don't know. All I can say is this.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they're legit or not. I just
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: love when you see a guy who has the factor
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: culture togetherness team, like what Kubiak has done there. Like,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: you can just see it. You see guys that play
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: hard for certain coaches, and you get up there and you, like,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: hear them speak. It's like, oh, this guy knows what
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: he's doing. You could say the same thing about Bob
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Chesney at UCLA, right? Like, look what he's done. He's
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: transformed UCLA back to being a respectable program in four games.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: you know, really six months of being on the job.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: It's just like some coaches have it. So I appreciate that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Are they going to be like playoff team? I don't know. Like, well, that'll,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: that'll work itself out. But man, it's awesome to see
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: like a team playing together, connected, united. Like you can
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: say the same thing about Morgan. Like Morgan's a great coach.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Morgan is top notch, right. Of knowing the game. But
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: what I think is his best quality is he is
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: a igniter. He brings others with him. He has a
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: vision and a culture, and he unites people, right? He
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: brings people together. And it shows, right? And we've talked
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: about this in the offseason. He just has that it factor.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: So you can go down the line of guys that
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: have it and don't. So are the Raiders for real
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: right now? They're for real? So the answer is yes.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Eric Weddle for another minute or two here on the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell show, talking all things football.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I got to ask you this.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: If you Morgan Scali had, there's a UFC event in
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake city this weekend and Morgan Scali had a
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: former NFL player. He was a great at South Florida
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: or Florida international. He's the all time leading tackler from
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Florida international. Tried it in the NFL. Didn't work out
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: for him in the NFL. He's an undefeated MMA fighter now.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: You have to have one of your former teammates, college
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: or pro, win a UFC fight for you. It can't
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: be me because I think I'm the only former teammate
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: of yours who actually did win a UFC fight. But
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: it's somebody who hasn't actually ended up fighting. If you've
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: got to pick one of those guys to go win
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: you a fight, who are you picking?
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Well... you kind of think of like, all right, who's
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: a lot of these guys can fight, but can they
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: really fight? That's up in the air. And you think
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: of like just some nasty tough dudes, but that in UFC,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: like that doesn't matter.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Like the first thing that pops in my mind is
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Tony Jefferson. Cause he grew up boxing and, or Tom Zbikowski, uh.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: That's one of those guys is the answer. Zbikowski had
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: some pro boxing matches.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. He had plenty of professional bouts and then went
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: the pro route after he was done playing. So I
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: don't think it really like matured like he would have
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: if he just would have not played NFL. But I
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: think one of those two would give us the best
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: shot of making a respectable fight for more than a
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: minute or two.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would go with Zbikowski.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: He finished his professional boxing career 8-0.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: With five knockouts. And he had over 100 amateur bouts.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he knows how to take a punch. His face
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: is calloused a little bit. Not like UFC, but he
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: knows a little bit of what that world is. And so,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: you know, he would probably be a guy.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Teach him how to defend a takedown, and he's probably
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: going to win. That's a good shout. That's a good
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: call by you. All right, who is it this week?
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: You got Del Norte for your Rancho Bernardo Broncos.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: How much do we hate Del Norte?
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Well, it's going to be a great game. We don't
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: hate anybody.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: We like us that are supporting you, not you. You're classy.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: We don't, we don't, we dislike, we don't hate. Yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Like this is going to be, it's going to be
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: a great game at our place. We, you know, we're
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: all black and you need to make blackout game. So
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: a lot of fun stuff, a lot, a lot will
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: be riding on it. As the season goes on league,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: this is a league game. and playoffs will be, will
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: be big for this. And so, and a little birdie
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: told me that a Utah coach is going to come
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: down and, and check out gauge this week. So it's
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: pretty cool to have a coach come down and be
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: on their bi-week. They could be anywhere. So we don't
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: take that lightly. Wow.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I like that. That's good.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: That's good to hear. The Del Norte night Hawks, by
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the way. They are four and one to four and
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: one team square enough. It'll be a big one at
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Rancho Bernardo. A good luck with that. Tell whoever that
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: mysterious Utah coaches, tell them that we said hello and
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: we'll chat again next week.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you, my guy.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: You got it. I'll, I'll unveil who it is next
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: week's show. Perfect.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: That's wonderful.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Speaker 0 7, you got it. Love you, bro.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Love you, dude.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: That's Eric Weddle. The Utah football legend by week for Utah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: We talked about this. It is a big, big, big
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: recruiting week. The coaches get out on the road. They
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: show up to these guys, hometowns, they show up at
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: their games.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: It would be.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Amazing if they said the assistant off safety.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Hey, well, Gherky here.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: What?
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: I'm here to check out your son. He's a safety, right?
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Why are you here?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: He might be playing quarterback and safety, but what could
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: he be as a guard?
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: I think we can confidently say it's not going to
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: put 150 more pounds on him here. Now here's a
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: real question, right? Who do you want to send?
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: If you're, if you're wanting to maximize gauge Weddell, coming
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to the university of Utah.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And this is, this applies to every recruit that Utah
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: is talking to and talking about, but he's the one,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: he is the jewel of the class of the 28
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: class that people want to see.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: So who would you actually send now?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: The low hanging fruit answer is, well, you go Morgan
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Scali because he's the head coach and it's the most
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: meaningful thing. If the head coach shows up, right. But
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: That's old hat for gauge. Weddle gauge has no Morgan
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: literally since he was born. He's been around Morgan, no
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: exaggeration a hundred times. So I think that he probably
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: already has a good sense of, do I like Morgan?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Can I play for Morgan?
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Do I want to be around like I don't think
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Morgan is a question in Gage Weddle's mind. This is,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: by the way, I don't have insider knowledge on this.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: This is not information coming from any Weddle person. I'm
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: playing hypotheticals here. Colton Swan knows Gage through the recruiting process.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: He'd be And obviously the defensive coordinator is a big wig.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: He's your, he's your defensive coordinator.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: If you're, if you're trying to really like send the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: message to the kid and have it communicated like this,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be your coach. I'm going to be
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the guy. Or do you send his position coach? Do
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you send coach Odom who also coached dad?
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Like, there's an obvious connection there, but there's been a
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: lot fewer rendezvous over the lifetime of this young player.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: So that's someone he doesn't actually know. Do you surrender for,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: do you, for me, do you.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Send the guy who can talk his way into or
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: out of any room?
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Sharif Shaw.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: We're thinking of the exact same person. I'm like, and,
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: and that's not, not a position coach, but he's a
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: position coach adjacent. He's the cornerbacks coach. He can certainly
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: give him information as to how they plan on using
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: him as a DB.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: And by the way, who's to say that gauge doesn't
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: end up playing corner ever.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Right.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Like his dad did. His dad played boundary. His dad
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: played nickel.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: His dad played safety punter quarterback in the wildcat formations, right?
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Like that's the vision for gauge is that they not
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: to be reductive, but they want them to be just
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: like Eric was. He's that versatile and athlete. He's an
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: incredible football player.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: So who do you send?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: If you're just like, I want, I want you to
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: get to know everybody. I want you to know the
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: whole family vibe here and okay. Brechterfield go out there.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know why you don't send If
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: that's what we're talking about here, let's get to know everybody. Okay.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: When Eric comes on next week, he's going to say, yeah,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Morgan Scali was at the game.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I think that's probably what he's going to say. Cause
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: that's like, that's like the big.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Feature, but also like the head coach doesn't have to,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: he's not the safeties coach anymore. He's not the defensive
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: coordinator anymore. He doesn't have to go on these, these
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: recruiting trips.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Well, and he also like, That's not in, that's not
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: a question in my opinion. That's not a question in
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the mind of Weddle the younger. Could I play for
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Morgan Scali? He knows he could play for Morgan Scali.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: He knows he gets along with Morgan Scali. He knows
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: his dad gets along with Morgan Scali. He knows his
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: mom gets along with Morgan Scali. He knows that he
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: likes the Morgan Scali culture. I would maybe be more
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: curious because I'm getting like, it's coming down to it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I think that he's probably going to commit before his
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: senior year.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: I wondered if he was going to commit on Eric
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Weddle day, the Arkansas game, but that didn't happen.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Well, the right thing to do is to not because
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: let his dad have his own day. But I think that,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: you know, they're probably not going to want to draw
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: this process out all that much longer. And there's other
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: teams make like Cal made a really strong push. They
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: went and visited a Cal made Cal made a really
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: strong push. BYU is making an incredibly strong push. Uh,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Georgia is making a big push. Ohio State wants him, right?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: So how do you beat that out? You have to
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: be able to sit down and you have to be
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: able to have the conversations about what it's actually going
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: to look like.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Do you actually get along with me?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Are you and I actually on the same page as
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: your defensive coordinator, as your position coach, as a guy? Like,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be Morgan, but you know what?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Why not send all of them if you really want
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the dude? Yeah, send maybe Morgan, Odom. and Sharif saw
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Shaw and they go like, they go from the game
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: to a rodeo.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: And Colton's one Colton Swan does like make it like
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: he's just like schedules.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: He enters a calf roping event in California.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: If I can, if I can rope this calf or
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I can wrestle this steer you're committing tomorrow deal.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Colton sounds like a guy that would say rassle. He
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: seems like that kind of guy.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: He is that kind of guy. He's that kind of guy.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: We're way over time.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Or Swanee as your guy. Who's the offensive lineman who
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: called in?
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Shout out.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: Weber State.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: David Hale.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: David Hale. As Dave Hale likes to call him, Swanee.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Shout out to you, Dave. Shout out to Hale. I
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: hope you're listening again today.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: And everyone down here in Weber State South.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 32:37
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• 32:39
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• 32:40
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