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What's going on with Ketel Marte? MVP PCA walks off White Sox, Padres officially have new owners · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to do today, a lot krats
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Speaker 1: polar braun Heye. Something that happened yesterday during the show.
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Speaker 1: The Padres officially have new owners, and that happened. We've
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Speaker 1: been talking about it for a while, Kratz, but it's
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Speaker 1: now official, so they get to do whatever they want
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Speaker 1: starting yesterday. Approved by the rest of the frat.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not unanimously, too, almost said anonymously. Unanimously they all
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Speaker 2: agreed to accept them in, even though some were like
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Speaker 2: three point nine million, billion, damn, I said, billion billion,
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Speaker 2: three point nine billion dollars. Good for them, first majority
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Speaker 2: black owner in baseball. I love it and many Machado
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Speaker 2: even said many. Minchada was like, I can't wait to
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Speaker 2: see what a what a owner with Latin heritage is
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Speaker 2: going to do with a baseball team, especially in that area.
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Speaker 3: So there's a lot to be excited about about this. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The names are Jose Feliciano and his wife Kwanza Jones KP.
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Speaker 1: They have indicated that they are going to try to
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Speaker 1: keep the fun times rolling in San Diego, but add
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Speaker 1: a title to the mix. Not just the sellout crowds,
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Speaker 1: the investing back in the team, the whole deal They've
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Speaker 1: done a lot of that with the last group.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't expect anything to change immediately.
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Speaker 4: There's not much they can do at this given time,
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Speaker 4: post trade deadline, you know, the uncertainty of baseball next year.
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Speaker 4: But they obviously invested a ton of money into buying
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Speaker 4: this team, and the Padres draw extremely well. I think
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Speaker 4: the last thing they need to do to kind of
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Speaker 4: solidify potentially their legacy in San Diego purchasing this team
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Speaker 4: is bringing home a championship. And it feels like you
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Speaker 4: spend that much on the team either. It feels like
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Speaker 4: they're a group that's going to go that extra mile
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Speaker 4: to potent should go out and try to acquire players
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Speaker 4: and truly try to win San Diego because they have
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Speaker 4: an incredible fan base. It's one of the best stadiums
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Speaker 4: in baseball. There's not much that needs to be done
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Speaker 4: with the actual you know, Petco Park, it's beautiful, the
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Speaker 4: playing surface, you know everything about the stadium. It's now
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Speaker 4: about trying to bring a championship back, and it feels
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Speaker 4: like they got the right people to do it.
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Speaker 1: Yep, We'll see what they do, and now let's charge
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Speaker 1: the damn mound let's charge about. I mean, PCA have
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Speaker 1: a game to start and to finish with Dingers, just
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Speaker 1: an all around incredible performance and kp this series is
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Speaker 1: on fire. This is the series that's taking over the
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Speaker 1: beginning of the week with the White Sox and the
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Speaker 1: Cubs back and forth affair. Yet the ben and Tendee
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Speaker 1: homer late, but ultimately PCA does the trick. We're going
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Speaker 1: to get into some of the nitty gritty here, but
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Speaker 1: first overall, how cool is this from someone who recently
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Speaker 1: played with the White Sox during darker times.
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Speaker 4: No, it's great, you know, and obviously you got to
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Speaker 4: give a ton of credit to Will Benable what he's
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Speaker 4: able to do with that group of guys to get
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Speaker 4: them not only to win, but get them to believe
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Speaker 4: that they're, you know, a young group of guys that
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Speaker 4: can go out and accomplish great things. And man, if
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Speaker 4: you would have asked me this a year and a
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Speaker 4: half ago when I was there in spring training with
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Speaker 4: them and then ultimately the start of the season, I
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Speaker 4: would have thought you were crazy that they would be
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Speaker 4: playing a cross town rivalry game in first place in
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Speaker 4: their division against a team that's kind of ran away
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Speaker 4: with that first wildcard spot. That's now put themselves in
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Speaker 4: a position to they're within striking this into the Brewers.
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Speaker 4: But to have a meaningful matchup in Chicago this late
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Speaker 4: into the season, I would have I would not have
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Speaker 4: bet money on it from where, from where that organization
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Speaker 4: was at a year and a half ago when I
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Speaker 4: was part of it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, PCA definitely locked up the n O m VP,
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Speaker 2: not Otani MVP, like he's definitely the best player.
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Speaker 3: That's not show.
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Speaker 2: Helo Tani hit two dangers too. Yes, I get it,
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Speaker 2: he's still behind him. But to have a game where
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Speaker 2: whether they know whether the young players and we even
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Speaker 2: asked yesterday the Socks Machine, We asked them if you
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Speaker 2: know if people know about the North Side South Side
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Speaker 2: rivalry in the locker rooms, and it was kind of.
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Speaker 3: Like, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Even if they don't know it, they know they're two
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Speaker 2: good teams on the field. And for PCA to lead
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Speaker 2: off and to walk it off shows that he knows
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Speaker 2: exactly what the situation means and he's able to step
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Speaker 2: up and get the job done at a time of
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Speaker 2: year when last year he was fading. He seems yes,
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Speaker 2: I get it, he had a little bit of a
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Speaker 2: tough stretch recently, but he seems to be getting stronger
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Speaker 2: and all the stuff they did earlier in the year
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Speaker 2: are is paying off. That it's as staying there with
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Speaker 2: his thirty thirty season.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, not to mention, you know, him fading, but it's
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Speaker 4: very ironic. Guess today I just had to TV on,
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Speaker 4: you know, the earlier game was on, I believe it
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Speaker 4: was the Cardinals and read and then it was just
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Speaker 4: showing like ballpark cam and sure enough PCA was out
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Speaker 4: there early hitting off a t on the field. Then
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Speaker 4: John Maylee was slipping to him. So there's a young
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Speaker 4: player who obviously has so much talent, but I don't
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Speaker 4: think he liked the way the season ended for him
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Speaker 4: last year, kind of fading a little bit. The fact
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Speaker 4: that he's out there continuing to work, you know, and
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Speaker 4: I'm not a huge War guy. I think there's some
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Speaker 4: validity in it because you know, it does tell you
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Speaker 4: some things. But the fact that he's leading all position
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Speaker 4: players in war at a point two, a full point
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Speaker 4: above Otani, this guy's a complete player. I mean, look
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Speaker 4: at these offensive numbers and we're not even talking about
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Speaker 4: arguably the best defender regardless of position in the major leagues.
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Speaker 4: It's really fitting that he would go out lead off,
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Speaker 4: home run, walk off homer. Otani would keep himself kind
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Speaker 4: of in that race that conversation by hitting two home
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Speaker 4: runs yesterday. But you know, without Otanni pitching right now
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Speaker 4: and missing a significant amount of time, Pca is my
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Speaker 4: MVP right now. It's incredible what he's been able to do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, coming up big in clutch moments. Let's go through
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Speaker 1: that moment. Okay, from a managerial perspective, Kratz, you dealt
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Speaker 1: with this all the time, where you're trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out what to do in these scenarios. Let's roll back
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Speaker 1: to back tweets to explain what happened in extras. Here's
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Speaker 1: Scott Murkin, who covers the team, wrote, Will Venable on
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Speaker 1: thinking about walking Pca in the tenth when you had
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Speaker 1: first base open. Quote, No, that's not an option there
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Speaker 1: with Saya Suzuki behind him, that puts us in a
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Speaker 1: tough spot. Not a thought. I mean, think about all
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Speaker 1: the options, that's not one we're going to make there, Okay,
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Speaker 1: And he actually further mentioned to the media how they
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Speaker 1: would have considered putting Suzuki on first with the empty
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Speaker 1: first base. Now here's Jesse Rodgers talking about the difference
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Speaker 1: between the two relievers on the mound. He said, with
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Speaker 1: a base open, Jacob Webb drops a curve strike, gives
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Speaker 1: him nothing else to hit. This is more walks him
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Speaker 1: on the next four pitches. If he chases, great, If not,
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Speaker 1: move on next inning. Same scenario bottom ten. It's taking Smith,
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Speaker 1: the rookie barely in the big league so far right,
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Speaker 1: big time stuff sneaks a fastball by PCA at two oh.
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Speaker 1: That gets his attention. Also in Bolden, Smith thinking he's
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Speaker 1: back in the AB. Then he goes nearly middle middle
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Speaker 1: with a slider PCA danger. So Rogers said, should have
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Speaker 1: walked him at two oh. If not to start the
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Speaker 1: AB the two best hitters on each team treated differently.
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Speaker 1: Ek your thoughts disagree?
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Speaker 2: I couldn't disagree more. Jesse, you do not walk. You
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Speaker 2: don't walk PCA in that situation. Say this as Zuki's
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Speaker 2: hammering lefties. That is the Now do you hang on
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Speaker 2: middle middle or do you sit there and say, you know,
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Speaker 2: what is the adjustment. We can talk about pitch selection
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Speaker 2: all the time. I didn't throw the pitch. I didn't
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Speaker 2: call the pitch. I can't sit here, excuse me and
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Speaker 2: and do a you don't water cooler, water cooler judgment
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Speaker 2: of what they should have done. No, in my opinion,
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Speaker 2: you are going after PCA there walking Suzuki just like
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Speaker 2: they said, and then trying to get the next one. Now,
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Speaker 2: if you go after PCA, it doesn't mean well you
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Speaker 2: can't walk him. No, It's kind of like one of
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Speaker 2: those things. How aggressive is he? Does he want to
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Speaker 2: get does he want to get the job done? And
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Speaker 2: once you blow him away? To me, maybe you waste
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm obviously going to defer to Crassy in
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Speaker 4: terms of hitch selection and things like that. But you know,
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Speaker 4: obviously he showed signs of coming out of that slump
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Speaker 4: a little bit. Obviously lean off the game with home run.
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Speaker 4: He had three hits in the game. But you got
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Speaker 4: to go with the left on left matchup right there,
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Speaker 4: and you look at kind of his recent struggles. He
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Speaker 4: was hitting one to eleven, one seventy three, three thirty
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Speaker 4: three over his last games. You know, it's a tough
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Speaker 4: call as a manager, But I do agree with Kratzy
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Speaker 4: right there, some of it was more about pitch selection.
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Speaker 4: I don't think you give him the automatic free pass
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Speaker 4: right there. For as great as PCA is and has been,
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Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you have to play off a guy's
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Speaker 4: emotions in that situation and you try to get some
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Speaker 4: chase there. And I know he did a good job
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Speaker 4: getting to own that count. But blowing a fastball by
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Speaker 4: him right there and then immediately going back to the
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Speaker 4: slider is probably the bigger question that needs to be answered,
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Speaker 4: whether not do you pitch him or not pitched him there,
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Speaker 4: especially with Tazuki how he's been raking, especially left handed pitching.
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Speaker 4: Right there, that's the guy you got to go after.
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Speaker 4: Nobody wants to hang a pitch in a situation like that,
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Speaker 4: or no one wants to hang a pitch in general.
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Speaker 4: But I think it's more about the pitch selection as
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Speaker 4: opposed to do you pitch him or not?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he'd definitely see what what.
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Speaker 2: You know based on the result, Based on the pitch before,
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Speaker 2: I would say he was probably sitting soft. He is
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Speaker 2: an MVP candidate you don't get to too well and
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Speaker 2: go probably getting a heater and then he got blown away. No,
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Speaker 2: he was probably sitting soft, thought it was going to
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Speaker 2: be a slider and he was going to get the
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Speaker 2: job done on the pitch before. So maybe maybe poor
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Speaker 2: pitch selection, but it's only poor pitch selection if he
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Speaker 2: hits a walk off bingner.
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Speaker 1: Did either of you guys see sam Antanaci's hit by pitch?
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Speaker 1: Did you guys see when he was hit by.
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Speaker 3: A pitch again? Do you mean every game?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, basically this was twenty three I think ties the
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Speaker 1: franchise record. I mean, the elbow definitely has the shakes
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Speaker 1: a little bit sometimes, So just curious if there's anything
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Speaker 1: you can do to try and prevent that. Besides, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you're not going to stop pitching inside to a player,
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Speaker 1: but if he's doing this and getting away with it,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it'll probably become more of a topic during
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Speaker 1: the playoffs.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I will say because of recent with
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Speaker 4: kind of the Zach Wheeler conversation, maybe the new thing
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Speaker 4: is you're gonna put him on a list, You're gonna
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Speaker 4: notify umpires when you go into a series, like, hey,
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Speaker 4: he has a history of doing this. I think that's
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Speaker 4: the only thing you could really do at this point,
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Speaker 4: getting hit by a pitch is a skill. First of all,
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Speaker 4: you gotta be borderline insane to be a guy who
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Speaker 4: wants to get hit by pitches that often, because regardless
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Speaker 4: of what people say, yes it does hurt, and yes
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Speaker 4: we wear a lot of body armor now, but you
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Speaker 4: can't be afraid to throw this guy inside. You know,
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Speaker 4: it's kind of the risk reward you're you're dealing with.
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Speaker 4: But when a guy is kind of blatantly, kind of
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Speaker 4: getting out there and intentionally trying to get hit, it
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Speaker 4: isn't the rule book that you're supposed to make an
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Speaker 4: attempt to get out of the way. So I guess
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Speaker 4: that's the only thing you could do now, is you
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Speaker 4: put him on that Zach Wheeler list?
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Speaker 3: Is it?
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Speaker 2: Is it in the Is it in the rule book
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Speaker 2: that you have to make an attempt to get out
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Speaker 2: of the way or is that just like a high
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Speaker 2: school umpire telling you that's what the rule is?
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Speaker 4: Fair point? I don't I don't really know. I guess
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Speaker 4: I could look at it up. Maybe that's just that rule.
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Speaker 2: You have to make an attempt to get out of
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Speaker 2: the way of a pitch.
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Speaker 1: So well, tell me, Kratz. So, how was the line.
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Speaker 1: Can you just go like this over the plate and
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Speaker 1: him for the ball over the plate? You can, But
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Speaker 1: he does go over the plate.
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Speaker 2: No, he doesn't if he goes over the plate, check it.
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Speaker 2: Are we going to see a Sam Antonaci hit by
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Speaker 2: pitch that they go like this? Because I watch it
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Speaker 2: in college umpires. There was a kid on my son's team.
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Speaker 2: He broke the record for his college for hit by
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Speaker 2: pitches with like fifteen games to go in the season,
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Speaker 2: and he actually got called strike three for leaning over
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Speaker 2: the plate and getting hit sam Antonaxi's not doing that.
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Speaker 2: He's not leaning over the plate. Is he towing the line? Yes,
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Speaker 2: But to actually lean over the plate and get hit, No,
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Speaker 2: that's not allowed.
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Speaker 3: This isn't This isn't cricket.
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Speaker 2: But there's no rule that says the only rule is
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Speaker 2: you have to be in the box. And there's no
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Speaker 2: rule that says, to my knowledge that you actually have
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Speaker 2: to get out of the way of it, that you
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Speaker 2: have to make an attempt to get out of the way,
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Speaker 2: which does not preclude you can't get in the way
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Speaker 2: of the ball.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll let the real experts handle this in
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Speaker 1: the comments section when they look after we post this video.
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Speaker 1: Two more quick things. One for the Cubs, they did
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Speaker 1: lose a couple players. Edward Cabrera came back, didn't look
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Speaker 1: good the other day, blister back to the shelf. Sounds
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Speaker 1: like when he returns he'll be a reliever. We mentioned
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Speaker 1: that they think that the longer he's pitching, that's when
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Speaker 1: the problem is becoming a thing. Dansby Swanson grade two oblique,
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Speaker 1: so usually it's four to six weeks. They're thinking it's
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Speaker 1: going to be closer to four. That still puts us
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Speaker 1: pretty well into September. But in mid September, right, it's
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Speaker 1: not the end of the season. He still should have
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Speaker 1: himself at least a week, if not more, to get
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Speaker 1: himself comfortable. Again, he's a veteran, too concerned. But you
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Speaker 1: guys know the obliques better than I do.
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Speaker 4: I'm very concerned about an oblique because there's no kind
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Speaker 4: of linear path to how long that takes. And a
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Speaker 4: grade two obviously a grade above a grade one, so
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Speaker 4: a little bit longer healing time. Yeah, you just never
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Speaker 4: know how certain people react to it. It has a lot
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Speaker 4: to do with your swing mechanics and and you know
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Speaker 4: the amount of torque that you put on it. But
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Speaker 4: you know, regardless if he's hitting or not, and he
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Speaker 4: has been hitting better of recent and he has an
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Speaker 4: act for coming up with big hits like hit. What
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Speaker 4: he does defensively kind of being that leader of the
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Speaker 4: defense is just so invaluable to this team. It's really
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Speaker 4: tough shoes to fill. And you talk about, yes, he
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Speaker 4: hits ninth in their lineup, and you look at the
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Speaker 4: offensive numbers and they don't jump off the page. But
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Speaker 4: the stability that Dansby brings to that team, the comfort
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Speaker 4: that he brings to his pitching staff knowing anything hit
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Speaker 4: pretty much on the ground. With all the defensive infielders
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Speaker 4: of the Cubs, it's definitely a big blow for them.
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Speaker 1: Readicrats technically against the rules to lean into a pitch
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Speaker 1: or intentionally let yourself get hit. In baseball, according to
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Speaker 1: rule five oh five B two, a batter is only
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Speaker 1: awarded first base after being hit by a pitch if
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Speaker 1: they make an attempt to avoid the baseball or if
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Speaker 1: they had absolutely no chance to get out of the way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got the same rule I was looking at as.
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Speaker 1: Opposed to dude last night. I'm just saying, and obviously,
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Speaker 1: you know some of them, he really gets hit and
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Speaker 1: I'm not going after him. I'm just saying, like last night,
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Speaker 1: like very clearly you look and it's boop, it's not boop.
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Speaker 1: It's not even just stay still, it's out, not in,
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Speaker 1: not straight out during the pitch coming in. That's intentional.
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Speaker 4: It's a skill though. It's definitely a skill like he
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Speaker 4: he he has the First of all, you have to
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Speaker 4: have the willingness to want to do it, and then
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Speaker 4: there's a skill to it. And there's a very gray
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Speaker 4: area between what you're talking about it like boop, but
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Speaker 4: then also like a slight turn would potentially, you know,
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Speaker 4: according to the rules, you're making an attempt, right, So
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Speaker 4: definitely an interesting thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a balk is whenever and a ball whenever
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Speaker 2: you deceive the runner. I'm just saying, if we're reading
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Speaker 2: the rule book, I'm just saying.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, then screw all the rules. No more rules.
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Speaker 3: No, there's very black and white rules.
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Speaker 1: It might come up in the playoffs if he gets.
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Speaker 3: Hit by really will Brandon Geyer.
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Speaker 1: Exactly? Great?
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Speaker 3: How that worked out pretty good? Yeah? Good?
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Speaker 1: Good for his OBP. He made it in the bigs
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Speaker 1: for a while. Okay, last thing, too. There were some
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Speaker 1: gnarly fights, so those occurred. The one dude, uh you know,
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Speaker 1: Tony tank Top a lot of a lot of punches thrown,
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Speaker 1: didn't seem like a lot of damage, but all good.
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Speaker 1: Weird that they let him do that for a while,
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Speaker 1: and PCA actually mentioned how he was like there was
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Speaker 1: some battles going on the out in the outfield bleachers,
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Speaker 1: but also said like, we don't condone that. And for
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Speaker 1: break here, Spencer Nusband does a great job covering the Nationals.
20:04
Speaker 1: He also does our District Territory show, and the article
20:07
Speaker 1: is about his representation and mentioning how he's a little
20:10
Speaker 1: bit uneasy moving to second base from shortstop. His agent,
20:14
Speaker 1: Mike Sanders of Rock Nation, said he was not thrilled
20:16
Speaker 1: about the decision, but his priorities to win games, be
20:19
Speaker 1: a team first player, blah blah blah. But he's always
20:21
Speaker 1: viewed himself as a shortstop short and long term. He
20:24
Speaker 1: would love to have the off season under this front
20:26
Speaker 1: office to be able to work on that, and believes
20:28
Speaker 1: he can be a very good shortstop. So I said,
20:32
Speaker 1: feedback the staff has been given. I don't think we
20:34
Speaker 1: have a full evaluation yet of how good he can
20:37
Speaker 1: truly be there. So thoughts like Kratz, you're smiling a
20:41
Speaker 1: little bit? Does this mean pushback? I don't know if
20:44
Speaker 1: the organization is going to listen here much. What's going
20:46
Speaker 1: to happen here.
20:47
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what the organization.
20:49
Speaker 2: I mean, He's going to think what he thinks and
20:50
Speaker 2: the organization is going to do what they want to do.
20:52
Speaker 2: The difference is twenty five million for the highest paid
20:56
Speaker 2: second baseman on a five year deal Jose al Tuve
20:59
Speaker 2: and thirty four point one million for Francisco Indoor on
21:03
Speaker 2: a ten year deal worth three hundred and forty one million.
21:06
Speaker 2: That's the pushback that is fair to say for cj Abrams.
21:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I immediately went to a guy like Marcus Simeon,
21:15
Speaker 4: who you know, kind of finished pre free agency as
21:19
Speaker 4: a short stop and then signed as a second basement.
21:21
Speaker 4: And then you just obviously you talked about the dollar
21:23
Speaker 4: amounts right there. So obviously an agent's not going to
21:26
Speaker 4: be too happy with, you know, changing positions because it
21:29
Speaker 4: means dollar and cents. Especially the type of year cj
21:32
Speaker 4: Abram is having offensively and you know, base running wise,
21:36
Speaker 4: there's obviously questions about his ability to stay at shortstop
21:40
Speaker 4: long term, but I understand where they're coming from.
21:46
Speaker 3: KP. I was sitting in the four to.
21:48
Speaker 2: Twenty five section perfectly looking down the first baseline. I
21:52
Speaker 2: saw that ball was fair last night at the Phillies
21:56
Speaker 2: Marlins game. The beauty of it. I get to see
21:59
Speaker 2: the super high level view of it. And he would
22:02
Speaker 2: have been on third because Harper was playing Sonoha over
22:06
Speaker 2: and right center, and I think it was out of
22:09
Speaker 2: Lopez I'm not one hundred percent sure what a score.
22:13
Speaker 2: Did you see what the umpires deemed to be correct
22:17
Speaker 2: or incorrect?
22:19
Speaker 4: Well, I think incorrect. But I have a very interesting
22:22
Speaker 4: take on this because when we start losing common sense
22:25
Speaker 4: and the game's going more technologically sound, I think there
22:29
Speaker 4: was a way that technology could be used. And I
22:31
Speaker 4: don't know exactly what that looks like, but everything Clay
22:34
Speaker 4: McCole is saying, considering the outfield positioning, the size lead,
22:38
Speaker 4: no one's holding him on first base auto Lopez can
22:41
Speaker 4: run a little bit. I definitely think they got the
22:42
Speaker 4: call wrong. I mean, clearly they got the call wrong,
22:44
Speaker 4: fair or foul, But where the runners should have been place,
22:48
Speaker 4: I think they got wrong as well.
22:49
Speaker 3: Don't we have so much? Don't we have so much?
22:51
Speaker 3: Like math?
22:52
Speaker 2: Oh, this guy was running at twenty seven point six
22:56
Speaker 2: miles per hour. The ball was hit one hundred and
22:59
Speaker 2: two feet away from Bryce Harper. For him to be
23:01
Speaker 2: able to get over to that ball, he has to
23:04
Speaker 2: run twenty nine miles per hour, which he's never done,
23:06
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like all things that if
23:08
Speaker 2: they want to do this with the numbers, they could
23:11
Speaker 2: easily do it.
23:12
Speaker 3: It's an easy math problem with my eyes.
23:16
Speaker 2: Not a chance they get the runner out at home,
23:19
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure if it was Ato Lopez or not,
23:21
Speaker 2: but not a chance. Harper was in a pull shift
23:25
Speaker 2: like six feet to the pull side of right field.
23:31
Speaker 1: Hey, we're back and we're talking about katel Marte. What
23:34
Speaker 1: the heck happened. We're about to get a lot of
23:35
Speaker 1: insight from Nick Pokoro, but we want to hear from
23:38
Speaker 1: Tory Lavello first. So if you were snoozing late last night,
23:42
Speaker 1: katel Marte ends up not showing to the park and
23:45
Speaker 1: they put him on the restricted list. Now we're hearing
23:47
Speaker 1: that he might be getting an MRI on his knee.
23:49
Speaker 1: We'll clear all that up after we play this sound
23:52
Speaker 1: from his manager.
23:54
Speaker 5: All I know is that he's dealing with a personal issue.
23:57
Speaker 5: We're trying to figure that out. And you know, he
24:01
Speaker 5: didn't he didn't show up today and he was put
24:03
Speaker 5: on the restricted list. That's as much as I know
24:05
Speaker 5: right now. I'm sure in time will start to uncover
24:08
Speaker 5: and ravel some some information. But yeah, I knew that
24:13
Speaker 5: there was something going on today when when I met
24:15
Speaker 5: with you guys, But I still believe he was going
24:18
Speaker 5: to be here and interest didn't show up.
24:24
Speaker 1: D backs beat writer for the Arizona Republic, Nick mcoora,
24:26
Speaker 1: joining us right now. Nick, this is a weird one.
24:29
Speaker 1: But you've covered to tell Marte not being there before.
24:32
Speaker 1: Tell us what's going on in this particular situation as
24:35
Speaker 1: it develops, really heading right into our show.
24:39
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't have you know, clear answers for you.
24:43
Speaker 6: I'm afraid he didn't show up last night. They were
24:46
Speaker 6: telling us that, you know, he told them it was
24:49
Speaker 6: a personal issue, and then today we find out he's
24:52
Speaker 6: going to get tests on his knee. Both can be true, right,
24:56
Speaker 6: I mean he could have been dealing with knee problems.
24:58
Speaker 6: I mean he missed a game in Atlanta over the
25:00
Speaker 6: weekend because of this. This left knee soren as he had,
25:04
Speaker 6: and he could also have something going on personally. I
25:07
Speaker 6: guess there's a chance they're connected as well. I don't
25:10
Speaker 6: know what what we what we know from before the game,
25:13
Speaker 6: Tory Leavello was dealing with a lot of balls in
25:16
Speaker 6: the air. Uh Nolan Arenado had like an intercostal thing
25:20
Speaker 6: he was he was sorting through trying to figure out if.
25:23
Speaker 3: He was going to be available.
25:24
Speaker 6: Katel had been expected to be the designated hitter, and
25:30
Speaker 6: Tory mentioned that he was going to reach out to
25:33
Speaker 6: Katl and see about playing second base. They hadn't had
25:36
Speaker 6: those conversations yet at the time that he was speaking
25:39
Speaker 6: with us. I guess for obvious reasons. Now we know
25:41
Speaker 6: he was wasn't at the ballpark yet, So I don't
25:45
Speaker 6: know did did did? Katel pushed back on, you know,
25:50
Speaker 6: Tory saying we need you to play second base instead
25:52
Speaker 6: of d H today, And.
25:53
Speaker 3: I really have no idea.
25:55
Speaker 6: We're still we're still trying to figure out exactly what
25:59
Speaker 6: all went down yesterday and why could Tell never showed
26:02
Speaker 6: up at the ballpark because I mean, if it's if
26:04
Speaker 6: it's an injury, you go to the ballpark to get treatment, right,
26:07
Speaker 6: I mean that's the way it should go down. You
26:10
Speaker 6: should you need to go to work, That's the way it.
26:12
Speaker 4: Goes Yeah, definitely very interesting. I have my thoughts. I'm
26:16
Speaker 4: not here to share those thoughts, but I was in
26:18
Speaker 4: Atlanta over the weekend and this team looks like a
26:21
Speaker 4: legitimate playoff team. Bad timing with all this. How's the
26:25
Speaker 4: team going to kind of deal with these distractions? Or
26:27
Speaker 4: is this something It's not the first time Cotel's kind
26:30
Speaker 4: of been in the news for things like this. Is
26:32
Speaker 4: this something that this group's just kind of accustomed to
26:34
Speaker 4: dealing with.
26:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the thing we're all going to be watching closely.
26:39
Speaker 3: I think.
26:40
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, a couple of years ago, he didn't play
26:44
Speaker 6: in a game down the stretch. They wound up missing
26:47
Speaker 6: the playoffs. They kind of collapsed in the final week
26:49
Speaker 6: of the season, lost out in a tiebreaker last night.
26:53
Speaker 6: It was a really messy game. You kind of have
26:56
Speaker 6: to assume that some of that was a distraction from
27:00
Speaker 6: everything that happened before the game. But yeah, I mean,
27:03
Speaker 6: this is a team that kind of felt like it
27:04
Speaker 6: was starting to get roll and it was just in
27:06
Speaker 6: such good position.
27:08
Speaker 3: Maybe they still are.
27:09
Speaker 6: Maybe that was just one game and the starting pitcher
27:12
Speaker 6: and you know, Mitch Bratt and Zach Letel did not
27:15
Speaker 6: pitch well, and that's really all it was. We'll see
27:19
Speaker 6: as these coming weeks unfold if this is something that's
27:21
Speaker 6: going to you know, linger with them.
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Speaker 2: Earlier in the year, Tory Levello came to tell Marte's
28:30
Speaker 2: defense almost that he's a good teammate. You probably can
28:34
Speaker 2: remember exactly what he said, but was there kind of
28:38
Speaker 2: a mounting like constant questions about you know, what happened
28:43
Speaker 2: to the All Star break last year?
28:45
Speaker 3: Earlier in the season, was.
28:47
Speaker 2: It mounting and then it quieted down, and now obviously
28:51
Speaker 2: this situation blows it back up.
28:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he certainly everything that happened last year happened.
28:59
Speaker 6: I think they had mostly moved on from that. He
29:03
Speaker 6: missed a game against the Dodgers. He I think he
29:06
Speaker 6: felt like he needed a day off. A Tani was
29:08
Speaker 6: on the mound and and he took the day off then,
29:11
Speaker 6: and there was a report that people in the organization
29:15
Speaker 6: were still you know, we're again bothered by the fact
29:18
Speaker 6: that he took this day off. I didn't get that
29:22
Speaker 6: sense this year compared to last year. I got the
29:26
Speaker 6: sense this year that that Tory was was kind of
29:29
Speaker 6: speaking on behalf of most people in the organization that
29:31
Speaker 6: Kattel had been doing a pretty good job of posting
29:33
Speaker 6: this year. And you know, the way they were reacting
29:37
Speaker 6: or the way that that tweet kind of depicted it
29:40
Speaker 6: or report depicted it, you know, really wasn't wasn't accurate.
29:46
Speaker 6: But look, I mean, here we are now it's a
29:49
Speaker 6: third straight year where you know, he has kind of
29:52
Speaker 6: found himself in the spotlight for you know, not playing.
29:58
Speaker 6: And look, we got it. We got to see what's
30:00
Speaker 6: going on with him from the personal side. If there's
30:03
Speaker 6: a legitimate personal issue, we all need to like back
30:07
Speaker 6: up a bit and and keep that in mind. But
30:10
Speaker 6: I think, I think probably the reason that it's turning
30:13
Speaker 6: into a thing now is just that you kind of
30:15
Speaker 6: don't get the benefit of the doubt, benefit of the
30:18
Speaker 6: doubt when it's just happened time and time again.
30:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is he like? You're year around the team,
30:24
Speaker 4: what's he like day to day?
30:26
Speaker 3: To cover?
30:28
Speaker 6: He mostly keeps to himself, I would say, I mean,
30:31
Speaker 6: there's a there's a group of guys that that he's
30:34
Speaker 6: that he's interacting with on a regular basis. But I don't,
30:38
Speaker 6: you know, as far as is he a clubhouse problem
30:42
Speaker 6: or I don't think that's the case. I don't think
30:45
Speaker 6: he's especially close with all that many guys in the room.
30:48
Speaker 6: I think he's another guy that that another guy you're
30:52
Speaker 6: on the team with. It's a guy that has a
30:54
Speaker 6: cubicle in your in your office, you know, just a
30:56
Speaker 6: guy you work with. That's that's kind of the way
30:58
Speaker 6: I I've I've kind of seen it.
31:02
Speaker 2: So what so what do we take? What do we
31:06
Speaker 2: glean from all of these situations? And I appreciate that
31:08
Speaker 2: you're not trying to jump ahead and you know, write
31:11
Speaker 2: a salacious story about something you don't know anything about.
31:15
Speaker 2: Do we glean the fact that they were maybe looking
31:17
Speaker 2: to trade him before he hit his no trade clause?
31:19
Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden it is solidified. He
31:23
Speaker 2: has ten five rights and has a full no trade clause.
31:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
31:29
Speaker 6: It's it's kind of a question of where, you know,
31:31
Speaker 6: where do they go from here with him? I don't
31:34
Speaker 6: know that they that they have too many choices, right,
31:36
Speaker 6: I mean, I think he's locked up for another five years.
31:41
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's and look, let's also realize as
31:46
Speaker 6: frustrating as some of the stuff is, when Kattel plays,
31:50
Speaker 6: he's usually a very good player. Like, this is a
31:52
Speaker 6: guy that has helped them win baseball games a lot
31:56
Speaker 6: over the you know, nine ten years he's been in
31:59
Speaker 6: this organization. So like having him on your team isn't
32:03
Speaker 6: the worst outcome. But I don't know that they have
32:06
Speaker 6: much choice right now, right. I mean, they did look
32:08
Speaker 6: into moving him they last winter, they didn't get an
32:11
Speaker 6: offer that they felt was good enough. And now he
32:15
Speaker 6: has ten five rights, and I mean, like, who's gonna
32:19
Speaker 6: take him on right now? With what he's owed, and
32:22
Speaker 6: it's not a crazy amount, but like it's you know,
32:26
Speaker 6: tens of I don't know what it is, eighty million
32:28
Speaker 6: dollars or something going forward, maybe more than that. Like
32:33
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to pay that down quite a bit
32:35
Speaker 6: for a team to want to take on the risk
32:37
Speaker 6: probably that they see with him for this, for a
32:40
Speaker 6: guy that has this this kind of track record. So
32:44
Speaker 6: I feel like they're just going to have to make
32:46
Speaker 6: two and make the best of it with him.
32:50
Speaker 4: It seems like the Cubs is kind of sorry Cratzy.
32:52
Speaker 4: It seems like they have kind of separated themselves from
32:57
Speaker 4: the Pact and the wild Card. Then you look at
32:59
Speaker 4: the Diamondback, the Padres, the Phillies, they've been playing, they've
33:03
Speaker 4: been recently playing better baseball. What kind of gives you
33:06
Speaker 4: optimism about this team that they could be a wildcard team?
33:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, they just got Michael Soroka back, Brandon
33:16
Speaker 6: Fott is really rolling, Eduardo Rodriguez is having a great season.
33:19
Speaker 6: Corbyn Burns is on the on the rehab trail too,
33:22
Speaker 6: and they're hoping to get him back in a few weeks.
33:25
Speaker 6: The bullpen has been very good. And then I think
33:28
Speaker 6: offensively you know, it's just kind of become a lineup
33:31
Speaker 6: that they still struggle with guys in the scoring position,
33:34
Speaker 6: but they've kind of been doing just enough to win
33:37
Speaker 6: games and they don't beat themselves. You know, this is
33:39
Speaker 6: a team that plays good defense, goes first to third
33:42
Speaker 6: every chance, you know, all that stuff. They they bunt,
33:45
Speaker 6: they do the little things. So it's a good team.
33:48
Speaker 6: They've been playing really good baseball now for you know,
33:51
Speaker 6: the better part of five six weeks. So it's gonna
33:54
Speaker 6: be really interesting to see how, you know, the events
33:56
Speaker 6: here in Boston are going to factor into how things
33:59
Speaker 6: go moving forward.
34:01
Speaker 2: Nick, I'm going to go back to your statement of
34:04
Speaker 2: the fact that I don't know who would want him.
34:07
Speaker 2: Jazz Chisholm's going to be probably the best second baseman
34:10
Speaker 2: available in free agency, and if he's available in free
34:14
Speaker 2: agency and he has any suitors, with the act and
34:18
Speaker 2: stuff that he does, I have a hard time believing
34:21
Speaker 2: your statement that teams would not want.
34:24
Speaker 6: To tell Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not I'm
34:27
Speaker 6: just saying I don't think anybody's going to be looking
34:29
Speaker 6: to give up the kind of package that the Diamondbacks
34:31
Speaker 6: are going to want.
34:32
Speaker 3: To get back. If if they're going.
34:35
Speaker 6: To be trading him, I agree with you, yes, for sure.
34:38
Speaker 6: I mean he's too good to just give him away.
34:40
Speaker 6: If they wanted to give him away, someone would take him.
34:42
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. Okay, I had to get down there.
34:47
Speaker 1: Sorry, I had no no that that's fair. And last
34:51
Speaker 1: one here, and then let's go back to the Diamondbacks
34:52
Speaker 1: as a whole, because yeah, there's some guys I want
34:54
Speaker 1: to hear about coming back, like Justin Martinez, and then
34:56
Speaker 1: even you know, timetables for a guy like Corbyn Burns.
35:01
Speaker 1: How does Tory Lavello handle this if he's not able
35:05
Speaker 1: to share much right at some point? I mean, Nick,
35:08
Speaker 1: you're at the park, right, You're going to keep asking
35:09
Speaker 1: questions until we get answers. That's your job, right. So
35:13
Speaker 1: Tory's saying he's fine, right, he's physically fine, and then
35:17
Speaker 1: today it's he's getting an MRI on the knee. So
35:19
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was a thing brought up recently.
35:21
Speaker 1: He's on the restricted list, he's not on the injured list.
35:24
Speaker 6: Yeah, the the physically fine thing, I don't know if
35:29
Speaker 6: this was if this was clear yesterday, But like when
35:32
Speaker 6: a when a guy doesn't show up to the ballpark
35:35
Speaker 6: and you're asking, is everything okay? Like like, what's what's
35:39
Speaker 6: going on? And their answer is, lo, look, he's fine,
35:41
Speaker 6: he's fine, He's physically fine.
35:42
Speaker 3: Like that.
35:43
Speaker 6: I think that's what what you know, everybody's worried about
35:45
Speaker 6: a person's well being, right, So when they said physically fine,
35:48
Speaker 6: I think that's the way, at least I interpreted it.
35:51
Speaker 6: That's the way I was asking the question. So I'm
35:53
Speaker 6: not sure that like it that that him having a
35:56
Speaker 6: knee thing is necessarily a contradiction there. But yeah, I
36:02
Speaker 6: don't know, I don't I think Tori's probably choosing his
36:06
Speaker 6: words carefully because he hadn't really had a conversation with
36:08
Speaker 6: Katel yet. I don't know if Phil have had one
36:12
Speaker 6: by the time we talked to him in a couple
36:13
Speaker 6: hours here today, we'll see.
36:17
Speaker 1: And it sounded like, you know, he tried to reach
36:19
Speaker 1: out but wasn't giving him much. One more sorry on
36:21
Speaker 1: this or do we know? Is he going back to
36:24
Speaker 1: Arizona tape get the testing done? Okay? So there's another one.
36:27
Speaker 1: I mean, you've covered ball for a long time. You're
36:29
Speaker 1: awesome at doing this. I love following you know, your
36:32
Speaker 1: work on the Diamondbacks. Nolan Ernando had to get an
36:35
Speaker 1: MEMORAI didn't need, and there's MRIs at every ballpark. Why
36:37
Speaker 1: do you have to fly home for that?
36:39
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I guess there's question they weren't.
36:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
36:41
Speaker 6: I guess they're just telling him. This just tells us
36:44
Speaker 6: that they weren't planning on playing him here in these
36:46
Speaker 6: next couple of days.
36:46
Speaker 3: Anyway.
36:47
Speaker 6: I mean, okay, whatever, whatever the personal issues are, maybe
36:50
Speaker 6: he's still sorting through those that these can be, like,
36:53
Speaker 6: you know, independent of each other.
36:55
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's get to the team. So Justin
37:00
Speaker 1: Martinez is back, Jordan Lawler is back, Corbyn Burns, Timetable,
37:04
Speaker 1: anybody else that we're missing that we should think about.
37:06
Speaker 1: These are some talented names that could make a difference
37:08
Speaker 1: down the stretch.
37:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, Lordescuriel Junior. I'm trying to think we've had so many.
37:18
Speaker 6: Ryan Thompson's banged up and on the injured list, Dre Jamison,
37:22
Speaker 6: Tommy Troy. Yeah, They've They've got some guys that haven't
37:25
Speaker 6: been entirely shut down. And Ryan Nelson is another one
37:28
Speaker 6: that's that's trying to get back. Although there's questions as
37:31
Speaker 6: to whether he's going to be built up enough even
37:34
Speaker 6: if he does make it back to where he could start.
37:36
Speaker 6: But maybe it's a guy that that pitches in, you know,
37:39
Speaker 6: in the bullpen, gives him some bulk innings.
37:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
37:42
Speaker 6: I mean, they they didn't do much at the trade deadline.
37:45
Speaker 6: They didn't do as much as they would have liked,
37:47
Speaker 6: that's for sure. But I think they also knew that
37:50
Speaker 6: they were going to have a lot of guys coming
37:52
Speaker 6: back that we're going to have a chance to make
37:53
Speaker 6: an impact on this team. And yeah, some of them are.
37:57
Speaker 6: Some of them are here right now, and some of
37:59
Speaker 6: them aren't too far way.
38:01
Speaker 2: Is there a case where these guys haven't been around
38:06
Speaker 2: and just like you said, this team has gotten more
38:10
Speaker 2: with they've won more games, they started to play better.
38:13
Speaker 2: Is there a case where one of those guys that
38:16
Speaker 2: you're talking about maybe doesn't quite fit into what's happening here?
38:20
Speaker 3: Yeah?
38:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I actually I omitted Zach Allen and
38:24
Speaker 6: all right, I would think that's that's another that's the
38:27
Speaker 6: guy that could fit into that that exact description.
38:29
Speaker 4: Guryel as well.
38:30
Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, they they they still have
38:35
Speaker 6: Max Kepler and and Lars Newbar on this roster. Walschmit's
38:39
Speaker 6: been playing great. Lawler has been very good.
38:41
Speaker 1: One healthy.
38:43
Speaker 6: I think there's ways to fit guys in, especially you
38:46
Speaker 6: know when you get the extra spot in September. But yeah,
38:51
Speaker 6: you you start kind of playing the numbers game, especially
38:54
Speaker 6: on the pitching side, and you kind of wonder how
38:56
Speaker 6: these pieces are all gonna fit, that's for sure.
39:00
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little Sea geek right now and some
39:03
Speaker 1: returns to the field in the mound. Carlos Rddan returns
39:07
Speaker 1: tonight for the Yankees might be a ticket you want
39:09
Speaker 1: to grab. If you want to see Zach Wheeler pitch
39:12
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, that could be a ticket that you want
39:14
Speaker 1: to grab. Or Robbie Ray for the Padres against Zach Thornton,
39:18
Speaker 1: who's been pitching well for the Mets. Mariners Brewers has
39:21
Speaker 1: some juice to it. What else do we like or
39:23
Speaker 1: do you like some of the ones I mentioned?
39:24
Speaker 4: Well, give me a good seat at the Phillies game
39:28
Speaker 4: tonight because Zack Wheeler's on my list, and I want
39:30
Speaker 4: to be close enough where I could keep an eye
39:32
Speaker 4: and make sure he keeps that toe on the rubber.
39:34
Speaker 4: That's all I want. And I know Sea geek can
39:37
Speaker 4: help me find a seat where I can just look right,
39:40
Speaker 4: super close up, and I want to be able to
39:42
Speaker 4: see the mound because you know, this guy's been cheating
39:45
Speaker 4: for a long time, and I want to make sure
39:47
Speaker 4: that he stays within the rules of the game.
39:49
Speaker 2: You know, clip that clip that Zach Wheeler's been cheating
39:55
Speaker 2: for a long time, says.
39:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I've been pitching the same way whole career,
40:00
Speaker 4: and boy, he has he and it's ridiculous to me,
40:03
Speaker 4: you know. And and you know, I'm pointing a little
40:06
Speaker 4: fun at my own team, the team that I follow,
40:08
Speaker 4: the Blue Jays, because they were the team that kind
40:10
Speaker 4: of called him out on it. But it's crazy. It's
40:13
Speaker 4: crazy because you know, we all try to gain an
40:15
Speaker 4: edge from time to time a little bit too. But
40:17
Speaker 4: he has been pitching that way for a long time.
40:19
Speaker 4: This guy's not This guy is too good. He doesn't
40:21
Speaker 4: need to cheat the game. That's basically what I'm saying.
40:23
Speaker 4: He doesn't need to cheat any game, and he's.
40:25
Speaker 7: Going to He's going off the side of the rubber,
40:28
Speaker 7: not to get away from where I'm picking my seats,
40:30
Speaker 7: but man, oh man, like he's going off the side
40:33
Speaker 7: of the rubber Popkins, relax like your lefties.
40:37
Speaker 2: Your lefties are going to struggle against Zach Wheeler. You
40:40
Speaker 2: know why because he's been like a top five or
40:43
Speaker 2: he's been a top three cy Young finisher like five times.
40:46
Speaker 3: That's why they're going to struggle.
40:47
Speaker 2: It's not like he's like getting a foot closer to
40:49
Speaker 2: the rubber like a Randy Wolf for a or a
40:52
Speaker 2: Michael Swimmer or you know guys who used to cheat
40:55
Speaker 2: the system that Carter Cats used to jump at him.
41:02
Speaker 1: He's on a league list.
41:03
Speaker 2: After he the league the All Star Game, he gets
41:08
Speaker 2: on the list.
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41:13
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41:30
Speaker 1: What changed with Edwardo Rodriguez this year? I know he's
41:32
Speaker 1: had success in the past, but some a blame has
41:37
Speaker 1: been placed on slow starts and even bad seasons for players.
41:41
Speaker 1: Regarding the WBC, I feel like that was a jumping
41:44
Speaker 1: off point for you.
41:45
Speaker 3: The opposite.
41:46
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was the opposite. I it sort of
41:50
Speaker 6: sounded like maybe his time throwing to Salvador Perez might
41:55
Speaker 6: have might have made a big difference. You know, he's
41:58
Speaker 6: he's kind of changed his pitch mix a little bit.
42:01
Speaker 6: I know, he's using his change up a lot more.
42:05
Speaker 6: Maybe he just, I don't know, needed to kind of
42:08
Speaker 6: kind of have someone a different voice, kind of talking
42:10
Speaker 6: through different ways to attack guys. We saw it in
42:14
Speaker 6: that start against Team USA in March, and it just
42:17
Speaker 6: felt like it's kind of rolled right through into the season.
42:21
Speaker 6: And like you said, I mean, this is a guy
42:22
Speaker 6: that's been a successful big league pitcher. Other than the
42:25
Speaker 6: last couple of years. It's always seemed to me, at
42:28
Speaker 6: least like when he's healthy, he's been good, right and
42:31
Speaker 6: these last couple of years just that hasn't been the case.
42:34
Speaker 6: And he's you know, even when he even when he's
42:37
Speaker 6: had a couple of bad outings here and there recently,
42:39
Speaker 6: he bounces back with a really good one the next time.
42:43
Speaker 3: He's having a heck of a year.
42:45
Speaker 6: It truly came out of nowhere. I mean, I was
42:48
Speaker 6: asking questions probably around this time last year about you know,
42:53
Speaker 6: is this guy gonna gonna last on his contract? Is
42:56
Speaker 6: this a guy they're going to have to just cut
42:58
Speaker 6: loose because it's just gone so poorly, And and now
43:02
Speaker 6: you're you're looking at it and you're you're real glad
43:04
Speaker 6: you have him, have him locked in for another year
43:06
Speaker 6: next year.
43:08
Speaker 2: Is there team MVP somebody that has no idea that
43:13
Speaker 2: other than Diamondbacks fans is having a really good season
43:16
Speaker 2: in Gabrielle Moreno, Yeah, that was.
43:18
Speaker 6: Exactly the name I figured you were going. Yeah, he's
43:21
Speaker 6: been unbelievable.
43:22
Speaker 3: Man.
43:23
Speaker 6: The the way that he swung that We've seen it
43:26
Speaker 6: in stretches in the past for sure, but the I mean,
43:29
Speaker 6: it's just been like two months just relentless, like tough
43:32
Speaker 6: at thats line, drives to all fields, occasional power.
43:37
Speaker 3: He's been terrific.
43:38
Speaker 6: And we again like we we knew it's in there,
43:41
Speaker 6: you know, the way he was talked about as a
43:43
Speaker 6: as a prospect coming up. If this isn't like a surprise,
43:47
Speaker 6: but I just think it's probably a combination of things, Like,
43:51
Speaker 6: you know, he's had trouble staying healthy in the past,
43:54
Speaker 6: and then just look at catchers man. I mean it
43:56
Speaker 6: takes it often takes catchers a hundred styles of the
44:00
Speaker 6: bats in the big leagues because they have so much
44:02
Speaker 6: on their plate to really fully develop on the offensive side.
44:07
Speaker 6: And I think we're starting to see that with Gabby.
44:10
Speaker 3: Nick.
44:11
Speaker 1: This was great, thanks for jumping on with us. Really
44:13
Speaker 1: good info and you know, fans looking for answers here
44:16
Speaker 1: on the KTEL stuff. I think at least learned a
44:18
Speaker 1: little bit more of the backstory and we'll see what
44:19
Speaker 1: happens from here on out. But you can follow Nick
44:21
Speaker 1: at nick pie co Ro on Twitter x and then
44:25
Speaker 1: also you can follow him in the Arizona Republic all
44:28
Speaker 1: his articles there. Appreciate you, Nick, good talking to you.
44:30
Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, thanks for having me.
44:32
Speaker 1: I'm just browsing around some other happenings for me. Yesterday,
44:35
Speaker 1: Ellie de la Cruz his first career walk off. I
44:37
Speaker 1: was actually surprised he had not had a walk off before.
44:40
Speaker 1: That was after Dane Meyers hit a tying pitch hit
44:42
Speaker 1: home run. You know, that's in Red's Cardinals. We'll start
44:45
Speaker 1: to pay a little less attention to some of the
44:46
Speaker 1: teams that are not really in his Cardinals aren't out out,
44:50
Speaker 1: but for the Reds, they fell off. As for the
44:54
Speaker 1: ALE wildcard, guys, here's where we're at. Three teams tied
44:57
Speaker 1: for the third spot, sixty one and sixty four. Yes,
45:00
Speaker 1: with this deep into the season and there are three
45:02
Speaker 1: teams three games under dinner time for that spot. Plus
45:05
Speaker 1: KP seven teams are within two games of each other
45:07
Speaker 1: in that little race.
45:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the only thing, it's crazy. There's a
45:13
Speaker 4: lot of great players in the game that just don't
45:16
Speaker 4: have walkoff hits, and there's some players that were just
45:18
Speaker 4: very mediocre that have a ton. It's just the opportunity
45:21
Speaker 4: has to present itself, and to be honest, it doesn't
45:24
Speaker 4: present itself as and as you think. But congrats to him.
45:28
Speaker 4: And in terms of the AL East or not the
45:30
Speaker 4: AL East, the American League wildcard spot, I really truly
45:34
Speaker 4: believe this is gonna come down to the final day
45:37
Speaker 4: of the season. There's gonna be multiple scenarios. I could
45:39
Speaker 4: even see a scenario and I don't know how all
45:42
Speaker 4: the tie breakers work outside of your division stuff, but
45:44
Speaker 4: I could even see a scenario where there's a one
45:46
Speaker 4: game playoff of one to sixty three because none of
45:49
Speaker 4: these teams in this kind of cluster in the middle
45:53
Speaker 4: of really shown the ability to separate themselves. You know,
45:56
Speaker 4: we just talked about Baltimore what they've been able to
45:58
Speaker 4: do offensively. They've been turning around. Toronto's been pitching great,
46:02
Speaker 4: They've been getting timely hitting. You know. Detroit kind of
46:04
Speaker 4: went on their run as it sustainable. Texas just can't
46:07
Speaker 4: really get out of its own way, you know. And
46:09
Speaker 4: you just never could really count out the Guardians. And
46:11
Speaker 4: then sure enough Seattle Mariners. If you would ask me
46:15
Speaker 4: a week ago, I thought they had no shot. But
46:16
Speaker 4: here they come.
46:19
Speaker 3: I scored on one of KP's walk off there.
46:26
Speaker 1: Hey, some returns from the il Mike call Garcia Vinie
46:30
Speaker 1: pas Quentino. That's two of their what top four ish
46:34
Speaker 1: hitters coming back for the Royals. They're not in it,
46:37
Speaker 1: but just saying their back rows about a rough season.
46:40
Speaker 3: KP.
46:40
Speaker 1: They never really in this thing. They fell out quick, no, and.
46:44
Speaker 4: You look on paper, this is a team that's probably
46:46
Speaker 4: one of the most disappointing teams of the year. I
46:49
Speaker 4: felt like they were going to be a playoff team.
46:51
Speaker 4: But they do have a factor in the playoff race
46:55
Speaker 4: in the American League. I know they still especially within
46:57
Speaker 4: their division. This team getting healthy can definitely it's gonna
47:02
Speaker 4: be tough competition for anyone who has to play him
47:04
Speaker 4: down the stretch. I know they're not playing for much,
47:06
Speaker 4: but you know, win healthy. They got a great lineup
47:09
Speaker 4: and good pitching.
47:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, they kept Waka and Lugo Chras. They didn't trade
47:14
Speaker 1: them away. They want them both for next year. They
47:16
Speaker 1: lost Reagan's early on this season too, but they wanted
47:19
Speaker 1: to make sure that they got the betteran innings lined
47:21
Speaker 1: up for next year. You want to take advantage of
47:23
Speaker 1: Bobby Wood Junior's prime.
47:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's got quite a bit of prime
47:28
Speaker 2: left to go. He's he's got MVP season. I don't
47:30
Speaker 2: think it's panic at the disco. I love what the
47:33
Speaker 2: Royals have done in the sense that they're pushing in
47:37
Speaker 2: They want to get a new stadium, so they're pushing.
47:39
Speaker 2: You know, this roster is built to win. But when
47:41
Speaker 2: you lose. One hundred RBIs from Vinnie Pasmentino. When you
47:45
Speaker 2: lose I was just looking up what Michel did last year,
47:49
Speaker 2: like forty to thirty nine doubles, sixteen homers, eight hundred
47:54
Speaker 2: ops in his breakout year Gold Glove. That's tough that's
47:58
Speaker 2: tough when you just can't You can't replace Cole Reagan's
48:01
Speaker 2: was a top three cy young guy like you can't
48:03
Speaker 2: replace it. So they need these last few months to
48:06
Speaker 2: build to next year.
48:10
Speaker 1: Hey, one more game to recap from last night. Patre
48:13
Speaker 1: has been playing some pretty good ball lately, but KP
48:15
Speaker 1: it had to make you smile, and they just kept
48:17
Speaker 1: testing Carson Benge and this team runs really aggressively, but
48:20
Speaker 1: you're looking at them beating up on Nolan McLean and
48:23
Speaker 1: they just can't figure it out on the bases or
48:24
Speaker 1: they're getting gunned down and then they couldn't score, so
48:27
Speaker 1: they actually lost two to one.
48:29
Speaker 4: Well, maybe that's why they kept sending guys is because
48:33
Speaker 4: they knew it's tough to score off McLean and it's
48:35
Speaker 4: also really difficult to throw out runners at home plate.
48:38
Speaker 4: So I think you've got to give a lot of
48:39
Speaker 4: credit to the defense of the New York Mets and
48:42
Speaker 4: making strong, accurate throws. But there also is this element
48:46
Speaker 4: of adapting throughout the game as a third base coach.
48:49
Speaker 4: When it's happening multiple times and they've proven to you
48:52
Speaker 4: that day they got good arm and very accurate that day.
48:56
Speaker 4: Sometimes you got to hold them up a little bit too.
48:59
Speaker 2: He did held up Xander the technically a fourth victim.
49:03
Speaker 2: The first victim was at the plate, but he held
49:05
Speaker 2: up Xander. He was standing like this, and Xander just
49:09
Speaker 2: went on by. And I forget who the first person
49:12
Speaker 2: was that got thrown out. Terrible route, oh, Jake Cruminworth,
49:17
Speaker 2: terrible route around the base. Shouldn't have sent him, I
49:20
Speaker 2: get it. But I think the one throw from Carson
49:22
Speaker 2: Bingch was like one hundred and three or something, one
49:24
Speaker 2: hundred and two point three something.
49:26
Speaker 3: Crazy.
49:28
Speaker 1: Walker Buehler was pissed about it or something. He was
49:31
Speaker 1: pissed about something, and you know fans were going crazy
49:33
Speaker 1: after him. He's pissing the dugout Walker Buler gets pissed
49:36
Speaker 1: all the time. Do you think that he was like
49:37
Speaker 1: crossing the line. I couldn't tell. Is he yelling at
49:39
Speaker 1: somebody or is he just yelling at general?
49:43
Speaker 4: I didn't see it personally. I mean, I know Walker
49:45
Speaker 4: from my time with the Dodgers. He's just very competitive.
49:48
Speaker 4: He probably was reacting the same way we're reacting to now.
49:51
Speaker 4: He was like, hey, make an adjustment, Like he's rolling
49:53
Speaker 4: guys out. He wants to win. He wants to get
49:55
Speaker 4: back to the postseason. This is a big part of
49:58
Speaker 4: and maybe there's some selfishness in it with Walker because
50:01
Speaker 4: he's a guy who turned down a lot of money,
50:03
Speaker 4: hasn't been able to kind of recoup that. He's having
50:05
Speaker 4: a great year, and what better time to really shine
50:08
Speaker 4: is getting back to the postseason. So I mean, all
50:10
Speaker 4: these kind of factors could come in, but more than anything,
50:12
Speaker 4: he's just a really competitive guy. Probably wants to win.
50:16
Speaker 4: He's on the mound, wants to run support. So I
50:18
Speaker 4: didn't see it firsthand, but just knowing him, I imagine
50:21
Speaker 4: that's probably what's going through his brain.
50:24
Speaker 2: Competitor, that's it. Competitors yell. There was a ground ball
50:29
Speaker 2: to write field. I should say this that neither the
50:32
Speaker 2: first basement or the second baseman do for and it
50:36
Speaker 2: would have kept the ball in the infield. It was
50:38
Speaker 2: like everybody reached for it and nobody gets it, and
50:41
Speaker 2: it was like, ah, what we got to knock that down.
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Speaker 1: Trey Mancini, who was a great story in his major
52:20
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52:22
Speaker 1: into the bigs this season, thirty four years old, eight seasons,
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Speaker 4: Yeah right, you know, he was in Baltimore when I
52:44
Speaker 4: came up. He got off to a great start in
52:46
Speaker 4: his career. Everything he's overcoming his career obviously, someone has
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Speaker 4: to do with cancer, especially at a young age, you know,
52:52
Speaker 4: living his dream of being a major League baseball player.
52:55
Speaker 4: To be able to overcome that, be able to come
52:57
Speaker 4: back and get an opportunity to play in the Major league.
53:00
Speaker 4: Incredible story, very inspiring for a lot of people, old, young.
53:05
Speaker 4: You know what he's been able to do in his career,
53:09
Speaker 4: and good for him. You know, I know it didn't
53:11
Speaker 4: last very long and he actually was putting up some
53:12
Speaker 4: pretty good numbers with the Angels when he got back
53:15
Speaker 4: to the big leagues this year. But you know, a
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Speaker 4: chance to come back get some hits in the big
53:20
Speaker 4: leagues again after everything he was able to go through.
53:23
Speaker 4: No shame hanging them up. Wonderful career. You know, whether
53:27
Speaker 4: you play one day in the big leagues or you
53:29
Speaker 4: play one hundred years in the major leagues, it's an
53:31
Speaker 4: accomplishment to get there, and to get there kind of
53:33
Speaker 4: twice in his career. Congrats on a great career.
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Speaker 1: Hey, The tarps off phenomenon has taken over the entire
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Speaker 1: season in many outfields and many unfortunate situations where you know,
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Speaker 1: a girlfriend goes to the park and then she's like,
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Speaker 1: where did my boyfriend go? And he has his shirt
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Speaker 1: off in the outfield. So this is positive development. Kratz
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Speaker 1: as we had some creativity here last night in Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 1: They formed a Pittsburgh Peak or a Pirates pee in
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Speaker 1: the outfield and left.
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Speaker 3: That is creative.
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Speaker 2: I was at the Phillies game last night, started to
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Speaker 2: rain and the tarps off crew started to get bigger
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Speaker 2: and bigger, not in my section, but across the way,
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Speaker 2: breaking news. Philly's security shut it down. I have seen
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Speaker 2: the tarp crew, the tarps off crew shut down before
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Speaker 2: in a stadium, but they tried it. I know some
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Speaker 2: of the boys on my team wanted to head over there,
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Speaker 2: but they never made it over.
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Speaker 1: That would be a tarp's on situation. Okay, let's finish
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Speaker 1: with this. We got a couple of minutes to go,
54:38
Speaker 1: and Brandon Fodd is pitching on Wednesday, so we won't
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Speaker 1: have time to talk about him on Wednesday show. He'll
54:42
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Speaker 9: You know, I spoke to Tory about it, and the
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Speaker 9: way he described it was, you know, well, first Jeremy
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Speaker 9: Blisch and Brian Kaplan, oh and do the other coaches,
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Speaker 9: They kind of create a game plan of what they
55:17
Speaker 9: want a picture to work on. Sometimes they have very
55:20
Speaker 9: specific things. Sometimes they're not really sure and they just
55:23
Speaker 9: you know, want the guy to go down and figure
55:25
Speaker 9: it out. But in Brandon's case, they had some thoughts
55:27
Speaker 9: and specific things that they wanted him to work on.
55:31
Speaker 9: But you know, when Brandon went down there, you know,
55:34
Speaker 9: first and foremost he was working with guys that had
55:37
Speaker 9: worked before, worked with before. He worked with Doug Drabek
55:40
Speaker 9: and Jeff Bagenaro as he was coming up through the system.
55:43
Speaker 9: So there's a familiality there. And you know, what Brandon
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Speaker 9: told me was that he really, you know, knows that
55:50
Speaker 9: Dreybik knows his stuff, right. He's the old school guy,
55:54
Speaker 9: you know, former Major league pitcher from way back, very
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Speaker 9: knowledgeable and so just socking up his knowledge and Jeff
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Speaker 9: Bagenaro's kind of more new school and helping him with
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Speaker 9: you know, the analytics side of pitch movement and design
56:09
Speaker 9: and so forth. So the two of them make a
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Speaker 9: really good pairing, and between that and the chemistry that
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Speaker 9: Brandon already had with them, they were able to get
56:19
Speaker 9: right into it and dive in. They made a few tweaks,
56:22
Speaker 9: and we know about you know, not putt in the
56:24
Speaker 9: hands above the head. I think they were moved to
56:26
Speaker 9: the other side of the rubber. There probably were a
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Speaker 9: couple other things, but it was mostly about getting Brandon
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Speaker 9: back in the comfort zone of doing what he does best,
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Speaker 9: which was get back in the zone. There's also some
56:38
Speaker 9: adjustments to the pitch arsenal in sequencing and what they're
56:43
Speaker 9: using more against right e's and lefties. They made a
56:46
Speaker 9: few changes there. So putting all of that together, you know,
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Speaker 9: it just really helped. So, you know, Jeff Bagenaro and
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Speaker 9: Doug Dreybeck, they deserve a lot of credit for helping
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Speaker 9: him both in executing the plan that was passed from
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Speaker 9: the major league staff as well as you know, working
57:03
Speaker 9: together with Brandon to fine tune it. But ultimately it's
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Speaker 9: Brandon fought to have the humility to go down there
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Speaker 9: to make the changes and come back not only better
57:14
Speaker 9: than ever, but you know, come back cy young quality.
57:17
Speaker 9: This is amazing stuff.
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