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EP 121: Sports News Redo (Audio Is Definitely fixed) · Sports Allegedly

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  Speaker 1: And coming to you live from Tonnay's basement apartment, where
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  Speaker 1: we are going to redo episode one twenty one due
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  Speaker 1: to uh someone's drunkenness and audio glitch in the system
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  Speaker 1: in sports allegedly.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. Who was that crazy guest? Who is
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  Speaker 2: his drunkenness? Thanks for joining us on this fourth day
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  Speaker 2: of June to five.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but he's spent on me and his
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  Speaker 3: hands were all in my face.
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  Speaker 2: Who talks with their hands these days? No, thanks for
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  Speaker 2: joining us. Appreciate you listen, Appreciate anybody listens. Actually, we
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  Speaker 2: just love to have a good time talk some sports
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  Speaker 2: and we've got.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit. We do this because it's a passion.
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  Speaker 2: It is. It's not to make you know, we made
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  Speaker 2: seven cents last year, month or year, so no, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's just fun. It's our way of talking it
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  Speaker 2: out with each other rather than talking it out with
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  Speaker 2: just each other. So you know, we we have to
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  Speaker 2: we have to give our spots, our props, our love,
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  Speaker 2: our hate, our cussing.
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  Speaker 4: We end up with a lot of our love.
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  Speaker 3: We end up with a lot of text messages and
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  Speaker 3: text message change the change, change all the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that is a fact.
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  Speaker 5: Person get rid of people sports alleged late to night
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  Speaker 5: on this fourth it's one of those sports times a
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  Speaker 5: year that we love, love, love, except except a bit
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  Speaker 5: of mourning.
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  Speaker 3: And in the last episode, we we did go over
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  Speaker 3: the the the Akahoma City Thunder because that night they
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  Speaker 3: had just clinched.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we stayed up late, fired off.
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  Speaker 3: Of late yeah, fired up the podlet, and we had
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  Speaker 3: went through the last three games of the Thunder before winning.
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  Speaker 3: Uh So, I don't think there's any need to talk
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  Speaker 3: thunder tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Squeeze me.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly what we're gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Talk is bigger, the bigger, The bigger news story is
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  Speaker 3: you know, Pacers and the Knicks, especially the Knicks firing
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  Speaker 3: their coach after rebuilding the team. And we'll listen to
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  Speaker 3: some stuff later about Thibodeau and him being fired.
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  Speaker 2: Now, so as we kind of try to do at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of the show, we'll kind of highlight we're gonak,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonn talk little hockey because it's obviously Stanley Cup.
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  Speaker 2: It's into the second three to two, so it's a
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  Speaker 2: close game, Panthers leading Oilers. We just finished that. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna do a short pod tonight to finish up that. Also,
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  Speaker 2: Women's UH World Series started tonight. Currently, Sean, you got
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  Speaker 2: that pulled up, it's one nothing.
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  Speaker 4: I think right.
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  Speaker 2: Had a horrible, horrible, horrible obstruction call in that game
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  Speaker 2: did benefit Texas Tech later scored a run off a
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  Speaker 2: hit in that inning. So currently right now looks like
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  Speaker 2: one to nothing. Okay, ye get that.
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  Speaker 3: I had had to do a camera too far.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, obviously we're gonna talk about obviously we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 2: about the thunder and uh, we'll close that out. But
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  Speaker 2: Sean did mention an interesting coaching fire tonight. A lot of.
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  Speaker 4: Bottom at bottom of the six nut bottom six.
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  Speaker 3: Naja Kennedy could have should have came to Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if she wins it herself, didn't matter
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  Speaker 2: where she went.
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  Speaker 3: So well she she finally so listening I was listening
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  Speaker 3: to it on the radio whenever you lost to Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 3: And the announcer said that they finally slayed the dragon.
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  Speaker 3: Well they didn't slay the dragon. Well, they just they
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  Speaker 3: they finally just beat Oklahoma had already had one loss.
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  Speaker 2: They made a comment to about and defeating the dynasty
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  Speaker 2: or some baloney like that.
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  Speaker 3: Right, but you oh it's one one now there we
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  Speaker 3: go Texas scores and that it was two to one
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  Speaker 3: and the ball game's over probably too she said that
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  Speaker 3: earlier when it was one.
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  Speaker 4: I thought so.
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  Speaker 3: So the the the thing was is that that you know, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you had finally slay Texas Tech and Naja Kennedy. You
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  Speaker 3: finally slayed the dragon. They owe your dragon. And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, well, they didn't because they didn't beat them twice.
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  Speaker 3: They only beat him once. Oh, you had lost earlier
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  Speaker 3: to Texas the day before, and they when when I
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  Speaker 3: woke up for that game, it was tied two to
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  Speaker 3: two and then ends up being four to two when
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  Speaker 3: I get to work.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I'm sure this has benefited ou in the past.
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  Speaker 2: And but Patty Gasso did come out and say, you know, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we shouldn't be doing double headers to go into the
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  Speaker 2: championship series.
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  Speaker 3: Two days later.
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  Speaker 2: You know, why are they just rest them start the
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  Speaker 2: series Thursday Friday Saturday rather than Wednesday Thursday Friday.
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  Speaker 4: You could rest do a game the next day and
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  Speaker 4: then just wait, an.
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  Speaker 3: Does doesn't the Baseball World Series? Don't they do that?
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  Speaker 3: It's tough, don't I don't know. College do they have
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  Speaker 3: a little time rest there before they get.
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  Speaker 2: To think Gas and oh you and oh you coaches
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  Speaker 2: or college coaches and Gas are the only ones that
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  Speaker 2: really know those rules. I don't even know if you
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  Speaker 2: could talk to a pretty good baseball fan and go,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's gonna go this way, and this is
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  Speaker 2: how they bracken them here, you know, because they.
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  Speaker 3: Go to the super regional. It sounds like it changes.
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  Speaker 2: They go to super regionals now then they go to
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  Speaker 2: Omaha and that's the fire.
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  Speaker 3: But it seems like it seems like the way that
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  Speaker 3: college softball college baseball are set up, it seems to
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  Speaker 3: change year to year. You know what I mean? Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's it's not always the same, not softball.
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  Speaker 2: They've tried to they've done that doubleheader before and I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying and I'm hey, it's probably benefited oh you, no
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  Speaker 2: doubt in the past. I'm not saying it has it
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not bitching about it this year hurting us
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't win game one. But it's also it's.
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  Speaker 2: Probably more of a it's probably more of a negative
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  Speaker 2: for the team that comes in undefeated Tech or Texas
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  Speaker 2: and this goes with they just happen to win game one.
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  Speaker 3: This this also goes into effect with the professional sports.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you got a team playing seven games, and
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  Speaker 3: you got another team that goes four and out or
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  Speaker 3: three or five and out, and they get there, so
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  Speaker 3: they have all this rest and.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about you're talking about series like hockey, basketball. Well, see,
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  Speaker 2: to me, that's their own fault. This setup is a
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  Speaker 2: little different because it requires even if you are undefeated
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  Speaker 2: or just one loss, you still or if you're undefeated,
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  Speaker 2: you had the you had the benefit so resting early,
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  Speaker 2: but you still got to play a double header.
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  Speaker 3: Right. So you look at the White Sox when they
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  Speaker 3: won they won the World Series. They had beat every
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  Speaker 3: team up until they got.
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  Speaker 2: And still play baseball. I hear these days kind of well.
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  Speaker 3: They're getting better. At least they're not Colorado, which I
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  Speaker 3: do like Colorado. Uh, they had won every series and
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  Speaker 3: had this rest, and then they got to the Angels.
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  Speaker 3: And the Angels had came off a game seven and
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  Speaker 3: immediately turn around, but they're playing again and they losed
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  Speaker 3: one game. They lost one game that that whole playoffs
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  Speaker 3: and that was too that was to the Angels. We
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  Speaker 3: just came on a tournament.
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  Speaker 2: But the difference in that though.
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  Speaker 3: To being cooled off and you know, rest versus differ
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  Speaker 3: in that they took care of business.
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  Speaker 2: Texas and Texas Tech took care of business and went
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  Speaker 2: undefeated through the first rounds of the playoffs and still
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  Speaker 2: was faced with a double head, which.
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  Speaker 3: Was still quite surprising for Tennessee. Who does have the
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  Speaker 3: best picture or a legend best picture I think is
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  Speaker 3: the best picture.
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  Speaker 2: But they did, they did, They did pick up Tennessee's
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  Speaker 2: pitchers being one of the best. Nause I still think
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  Speaker 2: was the best.
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  Speaker 3: Nause is the best because she can she can do it.
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  Speaker 3: The other girl was just fast, Like they kept measuring
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  Speaker 3: all her all of her pitches and they were all
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  Speaker 3: like seventy five, seventy six, which is fine, but you
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  Speaker 3: gotta have you gotta have, you gotta variation and you're pitching.
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  Speaker 3: You can't just be pitching the same well pickings.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, you look at Sam for Ou, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how many games did she have to pitch?
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's the one well she.
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  Speaker 3: Ended up coming in. Uh what name did we win
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  Speaker 3: that she ended up having to come in? They let
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  Speaker 3: the girl starting pitcher lasted what two innings, three innings,
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  Speaker 3: and then Landry ended up having to come in and
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  Speaker 3: finish out the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes, in one of those games.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she had to finish, but she just did. Now.
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  Speaker 4: The one thing about that though, was.
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  Speaker 2: Just a little negativity, justative about softball. I really I'm
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  Speaker 2: surprised we haven't had more homegrown pitching talent in the
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  Speaker 2: past couple of years. I want to know, Kelly Maxwell
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  Speaker 2: saved her reer last year, sam let us, she was
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  Speaker 2: our ace this year.
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  Speaker 4: She's a portal. And I understand.
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  Speaker 3: Softball and softball you have one main pitcher and then
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  Speaker 3: there's the.
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  Speaker 2: Rest, yes for your team, but could you imagine having
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  Speaker 2: like oh you did kind of. I mean, obviously was
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  Speaker 2: a recruit and they've had other ones before that. And
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  Speaker 2: she left for the right reasons.
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  Speaker 3: She had her title, she wanted to go home too,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, she just wanted to go home.
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  Speaker 4: But like I said, she left for the right reasons.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not discounting her for that, but I'm saying it
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  Speaker 2: seems like the last two years I really would have
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  Speaker 2: liked a little bit that are recruiting for the pitching
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  Speaker 2: now to say that current staff coming in and That
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  Speaker 2: was the point about Tech and the commentators of whoever
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  Speaker 2: saying they've stepped on the dynasty or whatever dynasty joke.
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  Speaker 2: That was number one overall player is an outfielder. She's
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  Speaker 2: coming in Kai minor, Alyssa Parker. He's the number one pitcher,
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  Speaker 2: number over two, Lexi McDaniel, number one infield. She's number
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  Speaker 2: three over five, I mean, hold on, Kenda Wells, number
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  Speaker 2: one catcher, she's fifth overall. This is this coming class
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  Speaker 2: Berkeley Zac. She's a four star, she's five, the number
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  Speaker 2: five pitcher, thirteen overall. This is when I say overall,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't State, it's Nation and Sophia Boardy fifth pitcher
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  Speaker 2: and she's eleven overall. Now they all won't pan out.
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  Speaker 3: What I got to say about this dynasty issue is, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you still made it to the finals.
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  Speaker 2: It's nuts. It's no.
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  Speaker 5: One.
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  Speaker 3: So there is no exactly You.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't step on anything, you didn't crush anything. You just
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  Speaker 2: want a game. And that's what softball is. How many
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  Speaker 2: of those games has oh you won over the years,
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  Speaker 2: even in their title run that you kind of think
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  Speaker 2: and I thought they're down, they're not gonna make it boom.
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  Speaker 4: It's like it just happened.
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  Speaker 2: They want it, They just didn't put it together and
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  Speaker 2: they were close. They tied it up late, and they
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  Speaker 2: just they're timely. Like I said, timely hitting.
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  Speaker 3: Missed these last few podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: You know it really is is your timely hitting. And
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  Speaker 2: softball is so important. Have a stud pitcher if you
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  Speaker 2: got to even better. Timely hitting is.
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  Speaker 3: So intense in baseball as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, but baseball is such a longer
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  Speaker 2: drawn out process. Fields, bigger bases, wider, more pitchers come in.
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  Speaker 2: You got a stud or two stud pitcher and you've
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  Speaker 2: got timely hitting. You will.
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  Speaker 3: They were like, is no relievers in college baseball? Everybody
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  Speaker 3: was a starter. You didn't become a reliever until you
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  Speaker 3: went to the MLB.
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  Speaker 4: That's correct. They've changed that up.
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  Speaker 3: They've changed that now and now you have relievers that
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, what's wrong with you guys?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think there's anything wrong, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: But what I think it is is I think that
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  Speaker 2: these pitchers find these niches that just sometimes mentally, it's
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  Speaker 2: not only just physically, sometimes it's mentally. You just come in,
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  Speaker 2: name a guy, he starts, maybe his emotions or too
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  Speaker 2: much gives up early.
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  Speaker 4: He's toast. That happens. You name a guy that's down
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  Speaker 4: five or up by one.
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  Speaker 2: He's up by one, he's down by five, he just pitches.
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  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of that's mental. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: never been a pitcher. I can't tell you that. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just looking from the outside end. I think a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that's mental. I don't think it's so much as
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  Speaker 2: more as physical now of an injury.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and we all know about how mental baseball is
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  Speaker 3: because we've all seen Bull Durham. That is true, the greatest,
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  Speaker 3: one of the greatest baseball movies, probably the greatest baseball
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  Speaker 3: movie of all time.
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  Speaker 2: So you falls after four years five peet didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: Was no surprise, and I will admit they made it
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  Speaker 2: farther than I thought they would.
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  Speaker 3: We weren't beat by the same team twice.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's it's That's what I'm saying. There should be
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  Speaker 2: no disappointment on that Patty Gasso. I heard she was
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  Speaker 2: like sixty three and three against her.
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  Speaker 3: Assistance. Let me tell me only and the only person
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  Speaker 3: that's beat he is the guy in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe at that point, let me make a prediction. Now,
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  Speaker 2: they win it next year, and I think they win it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I know you get one hundred dollars, so.
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  Speaker 4: Off the loss.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to bet that, but I mean it
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  Speaker 2: was obvious. It was a friendly wager. You know, we don't.
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  Speaker 2: You did, Oklahoma still doesn't do I legal betting, So
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  Speaker 2: it was a friendly It was one hundred ice cream
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  Speaker 2: cones or something. That's what we'll call it. I want
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  Speaker 2: a hundred ice.
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  Speaker 3: Cream one hundred you know who I actually was. It's
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  Speaker 3: a hundred casino tokenness.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's ice cream cones because that's game link to you.
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  Speaker 2: But that's legal gambling.
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  Speaker 3: You can get talking.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, GV, let's get this sports betting going.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, he's too busy poop in his pants, all right, so.
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  Speaker 2: But no, let's play.
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  Speaker 4: Let's play the We'll go to clip of Patty real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Close.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully you guys can hear this. We'll play it real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Should be.
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  Speaker 2: Watch what happens when I turned this on for years?
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  Speaker 2: Mosquito's ruined my tried finish.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm not paying for YouTube TV. Twenty four minutes.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, Well I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I can go back and see how long this one? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: this is a minute fifth thank you, but this is
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  Speaker 3: after the legendary ron you were talking about the one
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  Speaker 3: that I have one.
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  Speaker 2: And no sound.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's not me.
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  Speaker 2: Well well, well let's just skip this clip since we're
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  Speaker 2: going to dead air now, can you not put the
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  Speaker 2: volume button?
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  Speaker 6: That I haven't felt this in a while, so no
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  Speaker 6: one's feeling so Championships.
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  Speaker 7: I know there'll be time to reflect, but this is
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  Speaker 7: one of those moments where you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Cry because it's over, but smile because of what happened.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I haven't felt this in a while, so no
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  Speaker 6: one's feeling sorry for me about that.
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  Speaker 8: I'm sure. I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard to talk about. I'm really excited for the future,
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  Speaker 6: but it's really really pumped for sid Sanders to have
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  Speaker 6: her best soop of when it was needed and to
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: finish that way. Tonight was a tough night for Sam Landry.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of emotions for her because of her connection
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  Speaker 6: to Louisiana and now they'm all at Texas Tech. So
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  Speaker 6: it's really proud of her because that could have really
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  Speaker 6: been a very tough situation and she made it. She
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  Speaker 6: handled it really really well.
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  Speaker 8: There was a lot of.
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  Speaker 6: Emotions going on for her, as you could have already heard.
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  Speaker 6: So it's just it's hard to lose. This was the
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  Speaker 6: most enjoyable season I've had in a long time, and
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  Speaker 6: says coaches really feel that everybody kind of jumped on
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  Speaker 6: board with us. They believed in what we were saying.
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  Speaker 6: They carried on the championship mindset. They grinded on the
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  Speaker 6: field every single day, and there's some future superstars on
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  Speaker 6: this team, and I'm really excited about that.
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  Speaker 8: But they had to grow through.
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  Speaker 6: Sid Sanders and some of these others that have been
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  Speaker 6: around Ella Parker. We're still going to be a young
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  Speaker 6: team next year, but their ability to believe has been
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  Speaker 6: unbelievable this season.
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  Speaker 2: There you go from Pettigasso and her closing some of
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  Speaker 2: her closing statements after the loss three two loss to
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  Speaker 2: Texas Tech. She's right, they're young still, They're going to
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  Speaker 2: be better next year and get some pitching in there,
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  Speaker 2: bring in some bring in some of this young talent.
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  Speaker 2: And oh, I think they're going to be very hungry
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  Speaker 2: next year. Oh yeah, the revenge, the taste of the
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: feet is going to be pretty pretty interesting. All right,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Let's move on. Let's check up on the hockey game
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  Speaker 2: right now, getting ready to start the third It looks like, yeah, we're.
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  Speaker 3: In the second intermission. Is that an update? Though?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: What are we still in the intermission? Okay, we're still insion? Okay,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: all right, so straight two.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Panthers over Oilers, and right now we're all rooted Oilers.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I do like the Panthers, and I rooted Panthers last year,
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  Speaker 3: but now I'm kind of rooting for the Oilers. I
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: want David and d and all those guys to finally
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: get theirs.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to this.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Let's get to the meat.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Let's get to the thunder, the thunder, Let's do it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's talk about the OKAC thunder. Well,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: did you pick it at the beginning of the year. No,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: we didn't. I'd love to go back and see who
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: we picked. I probably picked Boston, and I think it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I think it was Boston.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Denver was very popular. Now we talked about this on
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: previous Spot podcasts. When Okay See played Denver that matchup,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I thought, God, that is the worst matchup to have.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Anybody else on the West was fine. I had no
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: problem playing anybody, and.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: We went through we went through that and we went
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: from that loss that they endured, that bad loss to
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: they won the next game, what barely.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: In that home but then they they came back home.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they blew them out in the third
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: game or the fourth fifth. I didn't look for how
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: many how many?
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Anyway, I thought I thought that was the.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Well, that was the hardest. That was the hardest they
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: were going to have to play. It was Denver, Yes, yes,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: best team because because Minnesota didn't show up. And I'm sorry,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: but I was talking about Minnesota. That's what we talked about.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Oh no, no, yeah, no.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: So you know, the Nuggets come out at home, beat
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the Thunder that was game one, Thunder turn around and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: kill them and Nuggets win first game there, and you
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: start to get okay, this was this was a game
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: for Game four was critical, low scoring game Thunder one,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: but the most stressful game I've watched that whole year.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm well, I've got the text. But that whole series,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: that whole series was a tit for tat. It's you
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: win one, you lose one. You win one, you lose one.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: And it came down to Game seven and who was
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: going to win? Yes, And it was Oklahoma City, that
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: that had, that had the gas in the tank, that
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: had the the shooting was on, the rebounding was on,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: everything was on for him that night to get them
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: into that Western Conference final.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Talking about the last game of that one.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Of the Nuggets, Yeah, yeah, that was the you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: because like I said, the whole series was trade to win, lose, win,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: lose win.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When they came back home, I thought they'd win,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: but I didn't think they'd win by thirty I think
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it was thirty thirty two or thirty something like that.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Three just picked it up and then playing the Timberwolves.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: You know, the Timberwolves are a really good team, very athletic, built,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: really well. I think they're a little old in some
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: areas and then very young and others. Rudy Gobert's interesting player.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I liked him center wise.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they just I don't Yeah, me too.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: It was really great for them to make the fun
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: it is the Western Conference.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: That's two years in a row. Though they made the
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals. Life did that, Yes they.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Did, and they got beat up Budge yes, probably yes.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: And Denver's a bad match up for anybody. I mean,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Denver's the best team right now, Denver.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Weird team.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me tell you this. Denver beats the Pacers easy.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And I think everybody is buying into this, the thunder
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: high being really high. They're nine, they're almost ten point favorites.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I know everybody's talking. Everybody's talking about.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Some games undefense.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: But what do you put against Haliburton and and his
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: his tenacity, his one.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I think you got Dort Caruso that's going to team
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: up with them. Shockham is the one I wonder about.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: That's the guy that really makes a difference. Everybody is
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: going to focus on Halliburton, But is that sneaky just
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: death shooter because the Facers weren't just one. That's two
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: guys that's come over in those trades though, you know
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: from Toronto.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I said, but Halliburton wasn't just it's not.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Exactly huge, That's what I'm saying. He he cannot be overlooked.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I think, I say you, Oklahoma's coaching staff is superb.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: They're not stupid. They're gonna watch that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, look what dag Naught done in game six
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: or seven against uh Yoki. I think it was game seven.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: He put Caruso on him. The height difference is crazy,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: but that guy was in his face. Caruso needs to
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: be on the floor.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Listen. I really like Dort.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Dort's so bad offensively at times hot, he's hot and cold.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not pitching about love the guy. I mean, he
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: plays harder probably about anybody on that team. But the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: key to the series for me is Jay Williams. That guy,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: if he plays, he didn't have to score more than Shay.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: He just doesn't need to have these five for twenty nights.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: You know that everything I'm saying is Jigs versus Haliburton.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: That's that's what I'm seeing.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: You know, I think that's the national media, but I think.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: You even mean it's saying that nobody's talking about.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: But it's Williams.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: He's talking about the other guys. They're just talking about Haliburton.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: And Well and another thing. Stop the perimeter, Julla. You
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: know Nie Smith for for how for the Pacers he
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: can be a deadly three one game against that series,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I think he sawed thirty seven points. I was like,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I have to look this guy up. Who is this guy?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: And you've got to defend the perimeter defense better now?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I think where Oklahoma City has the advantages the interior.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: You've got Chet Hardenstein. Yeah, you've got the Yes, just
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: that that have came over and around and get the ball.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: But I really think it really comes down to Caruso
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: playing well on defense and Jalen Williams on offense. You
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: need those two guys. Now. You know I've bitched a
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: lot about Chet. Don't hey, Chet, don't dribble the ball
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a lot. Just take it down the middle and just
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: shoot the ball.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: You think we're going to see a lot of three
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: point shooting.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: In this and oh god, it's gonna be fast.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, unlike what we've seen with you the Celtics series
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: where they shot thirty some odd.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Minnesota shot fifty game one, but they beat us bad
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: when they shot twenty forty in game what three?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: That's saying, are we gonna see it? We gonna actually
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: see basketball? Are we going to see get the points?
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Don't worry about the three unless the three is there?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Depends you watch these two teams there. I think they're
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: a little bit identical, very identical. One thing about the
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Pacers though, is they like to run. They will move, move, move,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: So to the Thunder But here's the deal, Thunder, you
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: watch them, they'll set on a half court offense as well,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: so they they can slow it down, they can speed
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: it up. Thunder are all based on not all, but
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of their points, and you look at it
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: as turnover base their defense and how fast Pacers get
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: in they turn it over. What the gonna need to.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Come down to which team can play the pace well.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Or keep up with the other teams.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: But if you got the Thunder, Thunder gonna play fast,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: they can do both. And if the Pacers pacers up
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: throwing them down.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: No, I think it's opposite. I think the Pacers aren't
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: going to slow the game down because I think they can.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I think the Under can play a half court offense.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: You look at it, you set up, you slow down,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: you look out here, Shade drives grabs a foul.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Whatever. Watched him play in the half. Course, we've watched
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: the Pacers play half court.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: On not as much though they really like that, right, But.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: They did that against the Knicks. That's I think that's
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: how they beat. The next was was was getting that
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: the slow that slow down on.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I think how they beat keeping the ball, keeping the ball.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Burton's I think how they brunts and I think how.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: The first time listening, Shawn's got new names for everybody.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I don't really give.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: But no, I think the difference that's what I call.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I think the difference in the Knicks is their defense
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: ain't very good.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: That's the problem there. And Timms likes to play big defense.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: They're just really not that good that they're just not
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Their offense is set up really well. Brunson, I mean,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched a lot of Knicks basketball until this playoffs. Yeah,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and they I mean that Brunson is amazing. I mean,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: he doesn't get the love he probably should Towns. He's
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: hot and cold to me because of his defensive presence.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: The thing about that is they don't have the depth.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Think about Hartenstein on that team he left to come
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: to the Thunder. Think about him being on that team
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: against Indiana. That would have made a huge difference, just
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the interior. Well, because Kat turns the ball over. He's
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: not that good defensively, That's my point. He's offensively, he's
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: got them up and down numbers.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: But it would have made it would have made a difference,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: But I don't think.
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: It would have made that big but I think the
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: Pacers have a lot of a lot of I mean,
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: Halliburton's great, Siakam very good, and then their role players
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: they're also very good.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: The benches are deep, well.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean I was talking about five
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: or six.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Both teams have deep benches.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: But see, the Knicks didn't. And that was the difference.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: They just didn't have that talent much after six or so.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: That was what was And Tims did better in the
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: college team that didn't play they only played the five.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but Tims did the Hoosiers.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Was that no one recent what.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: They called what was it?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: It was the not the Buckeyes, it was the what
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: was that talent called Bedford?
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Hell?
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Was think about anybody.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: About I was talking about Yes, I was talking about
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: this this this past college a world championship. Oh don't
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: remember you had the team that came in and played
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: to five.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: But no, I just think that I think that that
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: was a big difference there, and I think that the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Pacers just kind of overworked them out random. They run
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the Knicks. Aren't that team they're playing the thunder Thunder
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: or that team. Twenty nine and one against the East
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: regular season obviously sixty eight and fourteen, number one seed.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: They were thirty six and I'm sorry, thirty five and
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: six at home. Uh Shay's MVP betting odds are crazy
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: for this game. It scares me a little bit because
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the Thunder really need to establish a good win game one.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Pacers come in and sneak a win. It's possible. I'm
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: not saying it is. It would be very concerning for
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the mentality of that team.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Pacers have taken down some big teams, the one that
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: take down Cleveland, and Cleveland was the number two team.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: In OLIM But I don't think Cleveland was that great.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they were the number two team in olivem
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: beyad they were. They were four wins behind them.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I thought that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I thought that Thunder had better series win.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: And then right, but but the but they beat.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: In the first series.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Why am I missing them? Damn it?
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: The Lakers?
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: It was Golden State?
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Who is to play in right after that?
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: No?
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: The why are we missing that?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Hold on, I'm sorry there, I do. I do Grizzlies.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, move with John Morant, But that guy's in so
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: much trouble with guns and his dad.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: And we did sweep him.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: But you know, two point win, six point win.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Win. Yeah, there were big wins in there, they've been
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: some of the.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Other ones at their place was lower.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. They need to get up. They
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: need to be too o. Going to Indiana, win game
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: three and it's over. Just finish it, Just be done.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: H oilers turned it up.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Here we go, thirteen minutes left. We're gonna finish up soon.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Anyway to finish the end of this.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: So, uh you got do you want to do the russo?
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, So real quick, we're talk about the Knicks
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: we brought up to Nixon. And you know, I'm Sean
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: is not as much as I am. I am huge.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I really think coaching. I think I think you're more
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: when it comes to coaching.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: How much they mean I don't know where.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: You know how much they mean just just in basketball.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, So basketball is the last, Well, I think it's
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: super important. Baseball, hockey, and.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And see, and I'm opposite. I think basketball is I
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: think baseball is the last. To be honest, I mean
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: they were a jersey. Like the players, they just rolled,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I mean their assistant coaches roll out lineups. I mean
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: sometimes it's good, but I mean some of the best coaches.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I mean Sparky Anderson, you'd say it was one of
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the best baseball coaches, probably right, Okay, but yeah, but
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: He was one of the best baseball coaches, even though
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: he only won one title.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: But he's had some bad years. But I think a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: lot of that is not really bad.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals coach Russo.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: No, I know you, yes, it's not. We're gonna listen
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: to Chris Russo made.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: What is his name?
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: He coached for your I could see him.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: He reminds me what he reminds me of my my
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: old counterpart stand.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, coach what sucks twice and then he went to
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: he went to Saint Louis and coached them and got
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: them all the titles.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: No. So, essentially, what I was going to start out
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: with saying is Sean's not as much into coaching as
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I love coaching. It's a passion of mine to watch
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: these time.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I'm into coaching on hockey and football. That's why you
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: have line changes, That's why you have the line setups
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: in hockey. That's why it pulling this goalie at two minutes. Bruso,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I have whatever I had Russo. Uh, I think that's
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: more important than you know basketball, because a lot of
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: basketball it's just you do setups and then the players
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: just do whatever they want to. Yeah, but you say that,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: but you have players shooting threes when you're like, why
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: are you shooting threes?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: There is a lot of that. But I think I.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Need you to score points and get the interior still points,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: two points, hold on every time we'll win a fucking gain.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Don't everybody shooting three point?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: But I think, don't you think overall when you get
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: those players together, I think coach is their biggest thing.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: And let's say any business manager or anything, they've got
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: to have this. No, not just that. It's like a
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: what is that word I'm looking for when everybody's got
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: on the same line, the same page. A culture, that's
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the big word. I don't like culture. It's a weird word,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: but it kind of means the same. You gotta be
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: on the same page. You all gotta be working, you all.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like the tug of war.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: You all got to be pulling the same rope at
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the same time together. Coaching is big on that. That's
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: half of it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: And they're NBA coaching. They do the majority of their
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: coaching and practice. That's important, but everybody else does everybody
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: else does theirs in practice as well. But then they
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: do it on the fields football and high you do
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: it more. Baseball, it's there they call sons, Hey, just
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: stay pitch this.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: That's a gut deal though baseball to me.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: But basketball you're coaching them.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got a time out right, You've got
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: to put a right reserve.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: In sports, that's all. That's an all le them.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: A bit of a time. But you've only but you're
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: dealing in some sports with you know, eleven on one
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: side versus five, and you've only got ten or twelve.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about there's five on the court at one time,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: and there's eleven on a football field.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
• 33:36
  Speaker 9: It's like, I know a five on three, but no,
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: but you you've got to come back fast and go
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: Wait a minute, I'm only dealing with what I don't
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: even know what a roster is now in basketball, fifteen
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: seventeen whatever, twenty people maybe even I don't think it's
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: that high, but we'll look it up.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: But anyway, five and then you got like six reserves.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: But you've got everybody making all this money then, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: you've got to work so much close. It's a closer
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: deal it now. Football you've got defense, offense. You've got
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: them kind of work special teams. No, but you've got
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: them working against each other, and they're kind of team
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: special teams.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: No, but you've got them separate coaches.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: They're all separate coaches. You have three.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: You're missing my point on that special teams means fucking
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: nothing in football. Team when it comes to beating each
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: other's ass, no defense does. No defense goes out and goes, hell, yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: we just beat the special teams in practice today.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Really, that's very many.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Special beat the defense on the field, very minimal, very menial.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: How many times have you seen it important?
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: You're kicking is I'm not saying it's important. You're missing
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: my point.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the nature, the mentality of team sports.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: You'll watch punters and kickers not even being practice.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, you want to talk about team sports. Basketball is
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: the least team sport.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: That's why I think coaching is more most important. That's
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: my point. You just men, they have to keep the
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: egos together because there's so few of them, it's not
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: as competitive nobody's been.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Nobody's been that great with a basketball coach since Phil Jackson.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: He was able to keep egos. It's kind of my
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: pat Riley ego. But we don't have those guys anymore.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: You can't keep the egos in check anymore.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying, but when you find one that
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: kind of does, and I think the Pacers has the
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: ultimate one. You know, Rick Carlisle gets no, no fucking credit.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: He got fired from the Dallas Mavericks. He won a championship.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: You know, just got fired.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: For me, we're gonna talk about That's that's my point, GJA.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: But Rick Carlisle just got fired, or didn't get fired,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: got fired from Dallas back in the day. He won
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: them a championship, and he quietly goes to a small
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: market team who's got a pretty badass general manager and
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: an owner that goes, hey, you do I trust you?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Who's the owner of the Indiana Pacers. You don't know him,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: that's my point. You don't know Dennisburg, No, you don't
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: know it Bird, No, you don't know John Burt. You
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: don't know him.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you don't cost I don't know him.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know anything people know.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying, but some owners of basketball team, Harry Dolan,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: you know him, he's the Knicks, the owner. You've heard
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: of him. He's a brick. Nope, we'll get to that
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: here in a minute too. But what I'm saying is.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: I don't even know who owns Oklahoma City.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Clay Bennett and some other people in Chicago.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: That's what I know.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: So my point is Jones. My point is he's a
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: quiet owner. He lets his people and management take care
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: That's always the best owners is the owners that quietly.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle goes, yeah, I'll take the Pacers job, and
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: everyone's like, why would you? Why would you take the Pacers?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Oh but you could. Rick could have had a better job.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: He could have said out another year and had the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: best job. But the guy quietly goes up there and
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: just coaches his ass off. And that's what good NBA
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: coaches do. And don't tell me that that. I'm just
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: saying it could be a factor in this series.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I think okay SE's talent out wigs and I think
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: dag Naught's a good coach. He's he's in tune with them,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: their brotherhood.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Did you watch that on him the other day? Were
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: you with me watching Diagnalton that he came up?
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he came up from the blue.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Was it here that we were watching? We were watching
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: his coaching history.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: But my point is when I all and I took
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: a long way around. When we get to this clip,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: and we're going to end this podcast after this clip,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: that Tom, Yeah, that Tom Thibodeau change the culture, if
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: you want to call it. That the Knicks hadn't been
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I think took Eastern Conference championship like twenty twenty five years.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: I think rust to talk about.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: And they fired him. They fired him, so unless he
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: come in and does something. But anyway, let's let's I'm
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: gonna give credit to Chris mad dough Russo off Serious Radio.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: What a great clip, uh he brings And I just
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: loved it. That's why I sent it to SHAWNA. Want
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: y'all listen to it. He hadn't heard it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: There's gonna be a advertisement.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Each as we talk about the advertisement, then you could
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: just like knock it out right again.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: It's gonna say in three to one, we'll turn the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: volume on of his corona too.
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: Hey, okay, number one.
• 38:24
  Speaker 10: What they did here to Thibaeau is a complete discription.
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: This guy took a.
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: Team to the conference final and because og And Towns
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: can't make a free throw, they lose that series. In Indiana,
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: they beat the world champs. He gets to a conference final.
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: They go back to back fifty wins for the first time.
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: Since ninety five.
• 38:42
  Speaker 10: They get to a conference final for the first time
• 38:44
  Speaker 10: in twenty five years, twenty five years. And this is
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: and you gave him a three year contact extension eight
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: months ago. And this is how you deserve this is
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: what this is how you.
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: Repay him by firing him. That is why.
• 38:57
  Speaker 10: Because mckel bridges didn't like him, Who cares about mca
• 39:00
  Speaker 10: bridges or Anthony te.
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: You know Brunson loved him, and you know heart loved him.
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: So the idea that the nick players that's something to
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: do with this is nonsense.
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: And I'll tell you right now, let's give the owner
• 39:08
  Speaker 10: grief here.
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: He's a lousy owner. He's been a lousy.
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: Owner for a long time. He's got an awful reputation.
• 39:15
  Speaker 10: You want to sit there, that's James Gold.
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: You want to sit there and blame everything on Leon Rose.
• 39:20
  Speaker 10: I think Leon Rose is too smart to have done
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: this by himself. He has deserved a benefit of the doubt.
• 39:25
  Speaker 10: Dolan is not so Dolan's hands to me, he was
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: in the exit meetings.
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: To me is all over this. Think about it.
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: The Knicks have had twelve head coaches in his tenure
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: as the owner of the team.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: Before Tibbs, they won one playoff series. One with Tibbs
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: they won five. So this is how a.
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: Good reward TIBs by throwing them out the door.
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: And who they bring it in? Pat Lotty's not coming here?
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: Who's coming?
• 39:51
  Speaker 10: What the kid from Cleveland and Worldwide West? The same
• 39:54
  Speaker 10: guy who wanted Louisvuo Tohio Ken Payne. How did that
• 39:56
  Speaker 10: work out at Louisville with Kenny Pan He won twelve
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: games to open fifty four before they.
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: Throw them out the door. So the idea that now we're.
• 40:03
  Speaker 10: Gonna let Worldwide West make the decision on who the
• 40:06
  Speaker 10: coach is or he has some say is a bunch
• 40:09
  Speaker 10: of nonsense.
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: This guy's a hell of a basketball coach. Hell of
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: a basketball.
• 40:13
  Speaker 10: Coach the Knicks over achieved to get to a conference final.
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: Indiana is a better team. Better team that the ball
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: does not bounce nine feet in the air and bounce
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: in in set of bouncing out, The Knicks would have
• 40:24
  Speaker 10: won that series.
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: Would you than that? Fire them? Here?
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: They did a celebration two weeks ago, seven thousand people
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: on Seventh.
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: Avenue when they beat the Celtics in.
• 40:33
  Speaker 10: Six games like they had won a world championship.
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: Five seven games, six games later. You throw him out
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: the door. Oh come on.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Now, remember and thank you for the clip Sean for
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Matt dog Grusso. Now remember that they signed a three
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: year extension for Thibodeaux about seven eight months ago, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you mentioned that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Listen, it's unless he done.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Unless there's some ship behind the scenes, and it happens
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: at times you need But yes, but it's possible there
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: was some ship that went down. Maybe there's something we
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: don't know. Final on the World.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Series Women's Real Series of Softball taxes two to one.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: That series is over.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Let's go see what they got that it's over. Now,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: go ahead and finish your Thibodeaux. We'll look.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: No, No, I just I just think it's it's important
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: to think about coaching. And I think you and Pat Jones,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and I've given him credit on this podcast before. He
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: always says, hey, and and we bring up the Solids. Still, Hey,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: we're going to fire someone to get better. And how'd
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: that take you? You get better?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: We really need to talk to you.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Both, Polini nine and three. You fire him to get better? No,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: it's not been good since now, Matt Role finally, but
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: it took ten twelve years.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because we hung out with what's his name's niece, Yes,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Florida Frank Solos and then Solich ended up going to
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Ohio and developed their drinking habit. Scott Frost was brought
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: in from uh UCF and he's back at UCF. I
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: I everything I heard about Scott Frost's years at Nebraska
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: was just all horrible. They said him and his assistant
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: coaches were just abusing the the golf team's automated s. Well, no,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: this is just this wasn't allegedly. This actually came out
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: by the podcast.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: It's allegedly, Okay, we are sports.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Allegedly and he had a bit of a drinking and
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: allegedly and and it it was a reality check for him. So, yeah,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: and how many coaches are you looking at it now? No,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I was looking at Frank Soultier's record at Nebraska. He's
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: fifty eight nineteen, nine and four, twelve and one and
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: eleven and two, seven and seven. That sucks. I lost
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the Independence ball. And then he went nine and three
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and did not coach in the bowl game because they
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: had already fired him after nine and three. They didn't like.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: They didn't like is his winning mediocrity? No?
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: No, So he goes to this Mia, Ohio Bobcats the
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Mid Amarian Conference his first year in two thousand and five.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: And no players. You know, it's all about the players
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: that you come in with.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Three years later he had a four and eight record,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: not good, and then after that he never had a
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: losing record. Now, let's remember during the mid two thousands
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: and later two thousands, is these teams were going for
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: by games. They were going to Yeah they're in state,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Ohio state. They were getting their ass kick. So let's
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: stop talking about these Mid American coaches not doing a
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: good enough job when you're setting them out to be
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: three or zero and three right before you get there.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of my point when I was talking
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: about Timodoo, that team is not that good. No, And
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I think Russo said it better. He said the paces
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: are better, and they are. And what's crazy, he's the
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: big market team's not spending money. What do you do it?
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: He said it better whenever he said, you're out celebrating
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: a six to seven game win over the Celtics and
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: you haven't even won the title.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Or even made it to the championship. I understand fans
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: if they make it to the champions championship. You know,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: if Pacers fans are celebrating right now and Thunder fans,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: how we're celebrating, that's great. You made it to the championship.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: That's huge. Not everybody does that. Now you're down to
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the final, it's one winner. I just you know.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: But anyway, a.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Lot of nine and four, seven and six, eight and five,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: eight and six, nine and four, nine and four, seven
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: and six, and then he's gone and that's okay, And
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: that's what happened whatever I mean. He had some alcohol issues.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: And I do have a fun fact though for you
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I read, yeah, it.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Was fun facts Smith coach team, by the way. Fun
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: fact his dungel appointment was he needs to floss more.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: He was talking about Allen Alex Caruso and his intense defense,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: which I think he's been I like, Hardenstein, don't get
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: me wrong, and he you know, he's our biggest free
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: agent pickup.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: And I'm still I'm still upset that Crusoe, but nobody's
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: our biggest. We left was traded out of Chicago and.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Won a championship at the Lakers. But Hardenstein isn't. Yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: he wanted to chance it was that Lakers champ.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Weird championship, but he also went with uh, he also
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: went with the heat.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: No, but he just won one. I think with he.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Was with.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Fun fact is we're talking about Alex Cruso.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: His dad was a player for Eddie Sutton, which is
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: just kind of funny how that intense defense his dad
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: played at Creighton when Eddie.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Was the head coach.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I thought that was a good thank you Dan. Somebody
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: on Twitter I saw that. I thought that was really cool.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: You've somebody I didn't know that. I don't remember his
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: last name, but I saw that, and I was like, Hey,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: that's really great that that's a really good statistic. But honestly,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: my pick Thunder and six, Jay Williams, Alex Crusoe two
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Stars of the Game.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Chit please, my friend, do.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: You want to put one hundred ice cream cones on
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: that one too?
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: How many one hundred ice cream cones? Like you're picking
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: the Pacers.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I'll take the Pacers, I'll take the I'll.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Take a hundred ice cream cones for and you're and
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Pacers and what just for fun?
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Oh it's seven seven?
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Are you gonna go like a okay? So when does
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: the Pacers I'm looking.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: At the Nuggets. I'm looking at at a.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Nuggets Okay, okay for the Thunder, sure, but when huh.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Like the Nugget series, it's gonna be game game.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, So when does the Pacers get there? They're winning? Okay,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: see what game because they need one? Well, at least
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: game I mean, I think you're gonna they're gonna win games.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: If the Pacers win, they're gonna win. How is the
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: same to.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: They don't do that? Yeah, so I'm gonna say at
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: least game too, and at least game six.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: So you're thinking that, well, that's a home game for them,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: So I'm giving you're giving them all the home games.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I'm saying they went all their home games.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: So that's three, and then you're what change game.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Well, either game game two?
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I could see that.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: That's the one that they that they take, but they
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: went all their home.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned about game one.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I've just got a weird feeling, and I think it's
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the it's the heat thunder from twenty twelve. It's the
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: last time we made it. It's true, and our team
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: was way better then. No, no, no back up, hold it,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: hold it. I thought I thought the talent there was better.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Talent there was great. The talent there was was was
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: what you would call it.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I really think our depth and our coaching is much
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: better now. I think the team as a whole is better,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: and our interior is better too.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: I think the team playing together now is better.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: No.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I mean they talk about listen to all the pundits
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: that used to make fun and I don't know, I
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: need to go back and look at all the people
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: that made fun of the thunder. You know when they
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: do that after the game and they put the owls
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: on the reporter and they're, oh, they're haven't too much
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: found that when there's somebody out there and I can't
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: remember what personality they think they are that's so famous,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: made a comment that said, well they're they're not gonna
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: win that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Here, I need to bring this up for you. You
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: railed on this during your drunken rage for the episode
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: that was ruined.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: And that was a legend, a drunken rage, and I
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: don't have a drunken razors.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Some lady. It was some lady that you said.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: You know Doris Burk's horn, that's what us.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: You got me. You were like, you didn't she No,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, just look at this picture.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: She's got this frumpy, upset look.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: I remember saying that.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: But anyway, No, I showed me the will give you
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: my opinion.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Look at her face, look at her eyes, Look at
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: look at the face she's making. Whatever picture you showed
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: me off a Twitter.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Hold on, I gotta I gotta get this one, because
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: now everyone knows that Doris burg had some sort of
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: love affair with the Timberwolves.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: And maybe she did, she really did.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe it was just negative.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe just negative thunder to begin with.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: But you watch that cast or that sports cast of hers,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: maybe turned her down. She brought the free throw merchant ut. Yeah,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: she mentioned that, and she didn't say it about him,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: but she mentioned it. Well, that's the reason why people
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: on Twitter call him that. I'm like, what, it's Dorisburg.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's trash. I mean, and I don't, I don't,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I don't care. I mean, listen, you know you want
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: to throw that ship out there next year, and that's great,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: but listen, everybody on Twitter's bitch about it. And it's
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: not just about Oklahoma City. She's just trash. She's not
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: ain't good and to be honest, and it's not because
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: she's a woman. So I don't want to hear that ship.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Don't even bring it up, don't even talk about it.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: She's not any good. She's two opinionated. If if you
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: are a sport, if you're a sportscaster, you're supposed.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: To be neutral. Yes, you're neutral. Now, you know, we
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: give Stephen A Smith and all those guys, they're a
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: building to do it, but they do it. They do it.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: He's he is, but he does he does his life bigger,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: but he does his thing about the Knicks and and
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: the cowboys and all that. But he does it on
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: his own time. He doesn't do it when he's opinionated.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: That's okay, that's what you want those guys. That's when
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: he does it. He doesn't do it while he's watching
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: the team, well, while he's you know, at the game
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: or you know all that, he's not doing it. Then
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: when he's supposed to be commentated, to be an independent commentator.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: But she's not.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: She's not.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: She has to be independent.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: And also also let's bring up that you uh said
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: numerous times ESPN hire us, we worked for chief.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: They can't. They can't. They can't afford us.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Now a k I'm kidding.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: You questioned them highly like what is wrong with Well,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: it's kind of weird because they're firing a lot of
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: good people and then they're giving big raises to these other.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: People and doors Bark works for them.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean alright, So, so Texas Tech loses
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: after being up one nothing, they lose to Texas. They
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: gave up the two runs in the sixth inning. So uh,
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: it looks like at Wood singled into left and Henry
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: and Scott scored. That's how they I was gonna look
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: at the box go to see if Kennedy was still
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: pitching for them.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: She is, she's going to pitch the next game.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I was just saying if they had
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: pulled her. Okay, yeah, she pitched the complete game.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Of course she's going to pitch the next game too.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: And they left Kevin and Texas and.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: If she wins, she's gonna pitch the game too. I mean,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: there's nobody else picture for Texas thing.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, I couldn't name any of the other pictures.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: You can't name any of the players either.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Uh, there's a good years as a is.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: You're looking at their book Langaliers.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I have seen Leers.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: I love there.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: The only words that well even read the book. The
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: book is way better.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: But the book is way better. But that's a really
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: great fan show. That's really Redone. That's a really great
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: vampire movie. It doesn't because it's a vamp. He's a vampire,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: but it needs to be Redone. It does.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: But I do like the k walking out and the head.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Let's say it is a customer, customers.
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: Protect what's important.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: To How do we do that started?
• 52:44
  Speaker 11: Let's go guy, I don't know how that started anyways,
• 52:48
  Speaker 11: it looks like, well we're anyway tomorrow, So timely hitting forward.
• 52:57
  Speaker 10: I was.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Stun up a bit just you started the other day.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: We started the episode with this rent.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I know, well she is.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen to me, she's a nobody that I don't.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: I don't and I really and I thought I thought
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: you would be lucky to Richard like me.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Richard Jefferson. Jefferson was her counterpart, and he's like, hey,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: that what you're saying doesn't even back up the stats.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: She keeps talking, Yes, okay, because I heard I heard something.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Richard Jefferson's not good either, But I liked him because
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: you know what, I give credit for him. I think
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: he's kind of boring. I like Reggie Miller better. Stan
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Van Gunn, he's really good. The T and T staff stuff,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, congratulations to them. No, hockey and basketball and
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: the basketball is done. They're done.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: So no, they're still together.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: No, it's over. Tn T. Basketball is done.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: No, I swear to god. They said they got their
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: contracts and they're they're No.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Basketball is not on tn T anymore.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Focus.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Their last their last session was the other night when
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: the Knicks and Pacers were done.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Sure, they said they were. They got the contracts two
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: days ago. Oh, they're transitioning to ESPN.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: All four of them. Yes, let's see. I bet they're
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: not final episode on T N T uh resources.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: We're predicting ESPU.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Uh go down because I think Kenny is not coming.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Not Kenny Ernie is he coming? Well good?
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Mhm.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe they're so.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Steven A. Smith. It looks like Stephen A. Smith and
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Pat McAfee might have had something to do with those
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: guys staying together and bring them. They probably took a pay.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it was. Some of the speculations.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: All of them are over. Is that what we're here?
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, is that for sure? I see here, here's
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: what we're hearing. I don't think it's official. I don't
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: think anything.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: There'll be extensive postgame show.
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: ESPN's goal is to let the postgame segment run as
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: long as it does.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Know on T and T same guys, Well, good, good,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: that's great, that's great.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: That's like I didn't know they I didn't know they
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: all made it over.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: It looks like so we are going to be back
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: next week. But it looks like Panthers and Edmund and
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: are going to go into overtime. We're gonna go check
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: that out.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: It's weird. Twenty seconds. We're gonna watch the end of
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: anything else.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I really had some research on Dorisburg, but I'm down
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: I don't want you to even I don't want you
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: to bring it up.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: I just I just want to tell you is not Thiodeau's.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Thibodau is not going to be a coach next year.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Get on media for a year, dude, and and have
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: someone appreciate.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: You just like Timmy.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: No, I mean it's it's good. And he was good
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: with the bulls too, dude. Derek Rose doesn't have an injury.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Think about that.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm well aware of that.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: I'm you hated him for a little bit, but well.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: I'm well aware of I'm well aware of the Dereck
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Rose injury and what could have been. It seems like
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Chicago has.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Also a quick fact about Chicago. Do you know they
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: did the coin flip with Dallas and got the twelfth
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: pick in Dallas or was it twelfth or thirteenth and
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Dallas got the twelfth It was they had a coin
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: and it.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Was Dallas in Chicago, and Dallas.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Won the number one pick. Drafted the pink pongk because
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: they got that number. Oh, it's kind of like OU
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: in two thousand. It's like they signed a deal with
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: the devil. Give us one. You got the Jordan run
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: and that was it. You're never gonna get it again.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Chicago will never, never ever.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what that Jordan run was six years?
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: It was guy got some juicies.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: What do you get how we made four?
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I think in one one?
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, he was the best.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: He was the best. He was.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: He was the best player he was in general.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: He was a Floria.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: But you know what's great about Chicago basketball, and I
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: still give them credit. Their teams are not very good.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: They kind of play into the playoffs well, but I
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: still think they practically lead every year. And I don't
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: know about this year, but they're always towards the top
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: of attendance, which is great for Chicago basketball.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Now people have going to the games. It's just the
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: problem is is that we're mediocre. We're middle of the road.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: We make the playoffs, but we only make the playoffs.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Isn't playing We're in June. Give us two about July, folks,
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: No August. We will do our football predictions that's coming up.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull all that information.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for football college in three to three.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: We're going to overtime for this game one of Stanley Cup.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: I hope to Game one tomorrow.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Is win proposals or college an NFL schedules what we're
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: gonna go.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up I'm probably kind of mumbling now,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: but I kind of wanted to talk about some over
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: under stuff. And by the way, thunder Thursday series are
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: a little different now. Thunders Thursday Game one seven thirty
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: our time Game two.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: It until Sunday.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing a Saturday Sunday, yes, and then we
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: skip two more days. We go Wednesday and Friday in
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: the Pacerville and then after Friday's game skips cleared on
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Monday and Thursday, June twenty June twenty second could.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Potentially be the last day.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll go back to that picture of the hundreds.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: What's that for a different story? Anyway, I thought I
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: was looking real quick. I thought it took a picture
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: of God. I really thought I did.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Of just memes and no, I just I things in
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: the yard. Somebody's that was.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: At the park.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know what he's doing. Here we go.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I just I wanted to bring this up and I
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: want you to ponder this as we get an NFL.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I paid quarterbacks in the NFL on a per year basis,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: not over year over years, just per year. Dak Prescott
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: number one, sixty million.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still riding that contract.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow fifty five million.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Josh, that's a new contract.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, it's I'm just going into the year. It's it's
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: per year. Jordan Love fifty five million. Trevor Lawrence fifty
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: five Mini. Your guy, Trevor Lawrence will be MVP and
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl quarterback and no time. Yes, no, it wasn't.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: It was you.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Oh I did if I did it. I did it.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Just a fuck with you. I don't like Trevor. Doesn't
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: like Trevor Lawrence in college.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Fifty three million. Oh yeah, Defense one on that brought
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: party fifty three million.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: That's the one super Bully three years.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think brought party makes the play of some
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: three years. Super Bowl in three years and Jared GoF
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: fifty three million starting center just quit. By the way,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: we're tired, really yep, yep, co. So I want to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: talk here's where I pulled, I founded, and where we're
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: at bat Okay, I just want to briefly bring this up,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: just to ponder, just to ponder our viewers, the listeners,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: and my co part or my co host here, cohort whatever,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: my co the two thousand this is according to FanDuel,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: So I'm giving them the credit. Twenty twenty five sec
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: wind totals there, No, just just just give me some guesses.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: I want to.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I want to go down the list, and there's three.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: The highest win totals is nine and a half. Can
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: you believe that?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: That's it? Really?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, they'll give me the three. It should be easy.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: We've got Georgia, Alabama, Texas.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Yep, that's it. That's okay. Now we got three at
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: eight and a half.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Mississippi State or Mississippi, uh huh.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: One surprised me on this one.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Auburn No, no.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: They're not in there yet. Florida no, oh, you.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: An eight and a half.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Eight and a half one.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Team's looks pretty good and I think they're pretty talented.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: They're kind of they make South Carolina, they kind of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: got a goofy coach. Are they giving the half no,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: come on, that's what I'm trying to figure out.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: We've got one team really did well, lost their quarterback,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: which that's why I think they're kind of being weird.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: He needed to get more money and they kicked him
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: off the team.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Oh Tennessee, Yeah, I forgot about Tennessee.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: I bet them on the under. I think I have
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: a look at their schedule. And then there's another one.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: It's got a goofy coach. It's always talented on defense, offenses,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: goofy at times. But I think their quarterback comes back.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: We haven't got into that searching yet for sake of guessing.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: Lsu okay, Oh, I keep I forgot about now myer.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: We got who's coming back?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: We got four at seven and five? One of them
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier, you no, No, two of them you mentioned, Yes,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: seven and five or seven and a half. I'm saying
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: seven and a half. I'm saying seven and a half wins.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: That's the over under. Yes, Carolina A and M and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Carolina you mentioned another one already got a quarterback. That's
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: it for Florida. Oh you transfer quarterback? Oh Auburn seven
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: seven and a half? Real? They put us hold on
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: just keep.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: Talking, and you're missing one. And this is a giggle.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: One thinks big twelve North Oh, Missouri.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Seven and five.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, now we got two six and five? Oh you
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: and Florida. Yes, those are the two teams. I think
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: is gonna surprise, to be honest, And a lot.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Of people do have the over people. A lot of
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: people do have ou at nine and a half.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: No, that's what they're thinking they're gonna win. I've got
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: an eight or nine wins, right, Okay, you got one
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: at five and a half.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Uh Louis. Look just Kentucky.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: No, they're at four and a half. Carolina, No, you
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: already mentioned.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Seven and a half.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: Oh there seven half, Yeah, you've.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: Got Okay, the Hogs are five and a half.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: By the so oh god, I forgot about Arkansas.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Now you mentioned Kentucky at four a half. And then
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: you got the two bottom feeders.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Ole miss and Mississippi State and.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: They're three and a half. And the team that's a
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: special private school that shouldn't even yes, four and a half.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: I don't understame way you don't like to heaven Tulsa,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: ok A, b Alabama?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, but I think they live in Nico Nico
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Nico Nico left Tennessee and win to Vandy.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Vandy had Pavalera.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, So I was looking at that list and I thought, well,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: if Oklahoma had legal sports fan which they don't because
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: the governor hates the Indians or whatever is going on there.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. That's what he calls them,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: just kidding, that's allegedly, and uh, what we can do
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: about this. We're losing millions and millions a month on
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: people going outside of Oklahoma or legally gambling, and we're
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: still still welcome.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: To spoils allegedly political podcast now, which is ridiculous.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: And I got one more fun fact for.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: You, love Well, you got to remember we lost We
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: lost money every time everybody went out of state to
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: get a tattoo, every time everybody went out of state
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: to get.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we finally figured it out that the beer thing
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: pisses me off to.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: So that's a show and gambling.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So I want you to name There's only
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: one person in the NBA history I want you to name,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: and this should be pretty easy for you. Rookie of
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: the Year m VP Michael Jordan, Finals m VP All
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Star v Coach.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Of the year.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Executive.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: Guess I love that stat That's pretty impressive.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael never became a coach or an executive.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Well, he was an executive and he sucked at it.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: He was He was an owner of two different teams.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: He was part owner with the Wizards, and then.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: Owners are executives.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Stop. He made a ship ton of money selling the Hornets,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: but they sucked whatever they are, Yes they did. But
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's just trash. He just he's you know,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: he makes good investments. He's just not smart on players.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: All right, Thank you all for joining us.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: Love this episode. Doris Burke, stay off ESPN.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Please.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Nobody knows Foma City likes you anymore. It's not because
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: of you. It's because it's a woman or anybody else.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: It's just because you're biased and nobody wants to buy you.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Just terrible at No, she's just buy it. Just terrible
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: at your.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Jump spies, you don't do it. Don't do it, alright, y'all.
• 1:06:13
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