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# 101: Joseph Zamd / Military Life, Finding God, Health and Wellness · Come Together with Ephraim Herschmann

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  Welcome to another episode of come Together
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  and we're live dude. Welcome brother.
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  Let's have a this. So the only thing that I like to
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  clarify, especially with my with my Jewish buddies and guests, is
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  that if we're gonna, the show is not specifically for Jews.
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  So if we're gonna explain, I'm happy to talk about Jewish
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  concepts, but to explain them in a way that anyone listening
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  could understand, of course. But dude, welcome, man.
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  Tell me a little about yourself. Introduce yourself.
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  Who are you? My name is Joseph Zand.
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  I was born in Venezuela. I came to the United States when
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  I was about nine years old, nice to Fort Lauderdale, western
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  Florida. And that's pretty much where I
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  grew up all the way up until high school.
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  And that's when I started getting interested in the
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  military life because in high school I was in ROTC and I was,
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  you know, always into like the military movies, you know, Rambo
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  and all that cool stuff. So that got my drive to go into
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  the military. And from there, from ROTCI was a
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  really good swimmer. So in the Navy, they recruit
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  really good swimmers, high athletes for them to go to boot
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  camp, to go to different special operations programs, right?
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  And I was one of them that happened to go into the rescue
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  swimmer program out of high. School for the Navy.
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  For the Navy, yeah, Sweet. Yes.
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  So that's that happened in 2009 when I graduated.
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  So I'm going to start from there.
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  Pretty much my timeline. Wait, so before you do real
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  quickly, can you, do you remember a lot about Venezuela
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  or do you go back often? I can talk a little bit about
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  it. I don't remember that much just
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  because I didn't go back only once when I was 13.
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  OK, so very vague little memories of certain moments,
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  gotcha. But.
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  It wasn't like. But it's not something that I
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  can, you know, vividly tell you. This sure, sure, sure.
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  Yeah, of. Course.
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  But I did go back. Everything looked very
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  different. I was a lot older and that's
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  when the conditions in Venezuela were not looking good at all and
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  I kind of just went to my cousin's house.
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  Long story short, I never went back after that.
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  Really. You were done with that.
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  I'm Venezuelan. I love Venezuela, but I'm, I
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  consider myself an American. I'm a proud American.
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  Good for you. I am very patriotic.
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  Yeah. That's why I love the Navy.
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  I love the military and I love what the military does for human
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  beings, you know, for, for the mind.
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  You can obviously, you know, there's, there's the good and
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  the bad. And a lot of people can talk bad
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  about the military, but I like to look at it the, the aspect of
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  the mindset of what that does to a human being.
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  Yeah. And I believe every male should
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  serve in the military. You think so?
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  Absolutely awesome. Absolutely.
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  Just because there's a lot of characteristics and different
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  things that need to be built that if you don't have either a
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  very straight household or a good role model as a father or
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  somebody like that, then you will not be able to, you know,
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  get those discipline mindset and, you know, do do the things
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  even if you don't feel like doing it.
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  Those things that are useful in life that nobody really tells
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  you until you got to figure it out, you know.
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  Yeah. So that's why I think the
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  military is key for all, for all males specifically, just to
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  toughen everybody up. So I knew that from the
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  beginning and I decided to join the military.
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  It wasn't easy. Were you scared to do it?
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  I wasn't. My parents were.
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  You weren't because you were in high school and Rift and you're
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  like, I'm not, I'm not afraid of anything.
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  There, and I wasn't a big guy, I was actually one of the smaller
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  guys, which actually motivated me to be the big guy.
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  Were you always a dog? I was always a swimmer, though.
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  I was always a swimmer. Yes, I was always a swimmer.
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  Cool. So that helped me, you know, in
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  getting my foot in the door. And I got really into
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  bodybuilding in the military, you know, getting jacked and
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  everything that that's when I was 17.
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  But let me go back to when I was signing up.
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  My parents were not happy when we were talking about I was
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  scared. High school.
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  High school, you were in Weston, Fort Lauderdale area.
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  Yes, in Cypress Bay High School. OK, Cypress Bay High School.
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  Is that where Guy was? Yes, Guy Levy was there.
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  We actually so actually we the same age we.
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  What's that? Are you the same age?
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  Yes, we should be. Maybe he's a little bit older
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  just because I think I was the younger in the in our class, we
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  were class of 09. I actually graduated in 08 and I
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  went early into the military, which is the part of the story I
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  was telling. You, Yes.
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  Let's go Yes. So my parents were the ones that
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  were scared. I wasn't.
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  I was very No Fear. I want to do this, this, I
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  looked like this is the I want to do what those guys are doing,
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  you know, in the movies and everything.
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  So I knew what I wanted to do. My parents didn't.
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  So I had to convince my parents that this was the right idea.
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  I had 17 years old. My grandfather, may he rest in
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  peace. He was very, very military
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  style, very military mindset. And was he a veteran?
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  He was not a veteran. He always wanted to be, but he
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  loved all everything that had to do with military.
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  Sure. Gotcha.
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  So he was the one that talked to my mom and convinced her to be
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  like, listen, this is actually good for him and he should do
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  this. So Long story short, I signed
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  up, got shipped out when I was 17.
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  I graduated in O 8. So I was supposed to graduate in
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  O 9. So why everybody was going to
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  prom and going to grad bash or whatever they call it?
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  Sure. I was in boot camp in Chicago,
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  IL Great Lakes misses, you know Great Lakes freezing cold
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  weather. Yeah.
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  What time of year was this? This was in March I think.
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  I shipped out March 5th, which March 5th in Chicago is still
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  cold and it's the Windy City, and up in Great Lakes it was
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  even colder and I'm coming from Florida.
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  Yeah, dude, I'm 160 lbs wet. I'm a small kid, you know what I
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  mean? Like 17 years old.
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  Everybody in the military is at least 25262830 years old.
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  Everybody's older than me. And there was only me and
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  another guy that was 17, another guy was 20 and everybody else
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  was over 21. So I wasn't even legal to even
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  drink. Did they, Did people respect you
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  for joining or? Yes, of course, because they
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  were like they didn't. Look, you like you're a kid, No.
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  No, they were like, this kid's 17, he's here.
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  He could be partying in, you know, with his friends in high
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  school, you know? Yeah, he joined a different
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  path. So I did get a lot of respect in
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  that aspect. In other aspects, it was kind
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  of, you know, I had to grow up really fast because I have to be
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  around, you know, 30 year olds pretty much for the most part.
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  So my 17 year old mind had to, you know, mature quickly and
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  kind of just adapt to my environment, which I've always
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  been very good at adapting to my environment.
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  And I think I've, I've been that before the military and after
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  the military. Now I'm even better with
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  adapting to my environment. So I I try to make sure that I
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  put myself in the right environments so I adapt
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  properly. Sure, because that's going to go
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  to the next part of the story. Yeah.
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  Where when I got out of the Navy, I did five years.
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  Some yeah, military so let's. I want to I want to dive I want
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  to dive into the military in particular those five years You
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  got your cigar and take your time.
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  One of the things that I was thinking a lot about recently is
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  is really just like we're going to live in a world very soon.
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  Our kids are going to live in a world very soon where we're
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  going to get things very quickly very easily with very little
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  effort and I think that discipline is going to be one of
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  the few commodities that's going to be really, really worthwhile.
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  You know, and something that's really, really.
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  Yeah. And, you know, and so like, it's
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  more important for me to teach my kids to be disciplined than
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  it is to teach one particular topic that they can pick up and
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  learn anyway. Absolutely.
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  You know, and I know that myself, I always thought I was
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  bad at, you know, science and math and stuff like that.
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  I always thought I was, I was not good at school.
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  And it just turns out that I just like to learn differently.
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  And now that I figured out how I learned, I love learning.
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  I'm never I never stopped, dude. So if I could, if I could teach
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  my SO, I don't have to teach my kids the particulars.
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  I have to teach them the driving factors exactly the.
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  The of what's going to be needed, right?
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  The groundwork? Exactly.
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  Gotcha. So, so, so you're 17, you're in
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  the military until for five years, until you're 22.
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  Almost 22 because I was. I got in when I was just just
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  turned 17. And how often are you going
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  home? What's your life like?
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  Are you? Are you happy to be away?
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  My life like was I was living on base.
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  I've never got shipped overseas. My my status in the Navy.
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  I was kind of lucky. Let's say I was attached to a
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  helicopter squadron that was doing search and rescue, HSN 40
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  or whatever. That's, that's what it's called,
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  Helicopter Anti Maritime Squadron.
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  And they just did stuff around the, the Bay pretty much
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  offshore, pretty much a training command.
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  And I didn't have to go on deployment.
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  I didn't have to do anything. So I pretty much got lucky.
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  So people say, oh, you're not a real sailor because I wasn't on
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  an aircraft carrier. I wasn't on a frigate or a
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  destroyer, you know? What do you say to that?
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  That's different. There's different.
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  Everybody in the military does different things in every
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  position in the military, job is essential.
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  So even the Yeoman, which is a secretary, he's still essential
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  in the operation. So not only is it the Navy SEAL,
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  but it goes all the way to the to the paper, the paper pusher,
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  let's call it. Yeah.
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  So everybody's essential. And I think that going back to
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  the discipline thing, every job also required X amount of
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  discipline in the military, and they expect you to have a
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  certain level of standard. Right.
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  No matter whether you're going to be deployed or not, it
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  doesn't make a difference. This is how you're going to live
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  in this, how you're going to this, who you're going to be
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  while you're while you're with us.
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  Yes. So I was living on base.
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  I didn't really like it. So I'm where was.
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  Base where were you? Base was Mayport, Florida.
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  OK, so you're back so. I was in Pensacola, FL for
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  aircrew school. OK, that was that was tough,
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  but. I enjoyed it, tough about it.
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  Just the the adapting to it was 2 a day workouts right off the
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  bat, but it was just not 2A day workouts because in boot camp we
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  were doing it, but these two A day workouts were like 2-3 hour
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  workouts like we were getting B. Cardio.
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  Push ups, pull ups, just over and just wear and tear, running
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  in the sand, just complete just getting beat, beat up.
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  Wow, You know, wow. But the point of that they do
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  that is pretty much to wean out the weak.
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  Yeah, obviously. And to make sure that if you
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  that you really want to be there, a lot of people quit and
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  that you don't you don't have a mindset to quit.
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  Because if you have a mindset to quit when things, which is the
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  fan, yeah, that person that quit is going to quit 'cause he's
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  going to get scared and running. High and he's going to cause
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  other people to get hurt or. Die exactly so.
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  I did. A lot of people quit that when
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  you were. For sure, for really for sure.
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  Was it shaming it or was it just like at?
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  All there was no shame, shaming, quitting.
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  A lot of people quit, but mainly it's in the beginning.
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  You're real pro with. This.
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  And that's Cuban. Yeah, right.
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  Yeah. Cigars has to be burning fully,
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  you know. Full circle, of course.
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  Yeah, I had a friend, I had AI had a buddy tell me that
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  apparently the best way to light it is either with that lighter,
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  the torch that you're using, not the lighter that I use.
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  Yeah, no, you got to use this and it has to look at.
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  Or a piece of like or a piece of wood, like a thin piece of wood,
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  you'll have that or a match or whatever.
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  Yeah, a lot of that cigars that buy are wrapped in little ones
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  of those, so you could just take it and.
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  Lighter, and this is a What kind of cigars is this?
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  Honestly, I don't remember. There's a great cigar shop on
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  Jonathan. Is packed tight.
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  La Roma de Cuba. I love Cohiba, this is my that's
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  my jam. Good.
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  Well, enjoy, man. Thank you.
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  So, yeah, so you're on base and you're in Florida.
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  You're near Pensacola by the Panhandle.
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  That was aircrew school. Then we go to, then I get
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  stationed in this helicopter squadron.
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  I got to Fast forward because the story is very long.
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  Then I'm in Mayport, Florida. When I get to Mayport, FL,
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  that's when I'm in that command that it's, I'm not getting
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  shipped anywhere. So my my military career got
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  kind of stagnant, which that's what when that happens, it tends
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  to die, let's say the. Military career.
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  Yeah, because you're not getting the action, the constant
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  deployment, which is, is the hard work, but it's also the the
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  excitement. Yeah, it sucks.
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  Hopefully excitement, it's what you're there for.
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  So I kind of felt like I was like, kind of like, you know,
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  I'm always on shore duty and. There's early 2010, there's like
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  2. 1010, 2011 around right around there.
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  Gotcha. OK.
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  Got it. During the obstration, yes, a
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  lot of Middle East, a lot of Middle East action happening.
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  There was a lot. There was Afghanistan was full
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  of people going right now. It was yeah, 2009.
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  It was full of people in Afghanistan, right.
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  So luckily I didn't get shipped out.
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  I was on shore duty. I finished off my time there.
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  I didn't realist. I didn't get the excitement
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  that, that, you know, the best part of it, of the deployment.
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  And I, I don't know, I was young at the time and I kind of just,
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  I was like, all right, let me just go back to my life and just
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  live my life like because I when I'm 17 and I didn't, you know,
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  I'm not already like. You have a chance to be a kid.
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  Exactly. You want to be a kid, then I'm
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  like, I skipped a step, but now it's like, all right, let me
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  finish my time off. So I finish my time off, and
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  then I come back down here to South Florida, which is where my
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  parents live, which is where I was raised.
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  Yeah, sure. And then when I come back,
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  that's when obviously, I come back to Miami.
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  Now I'm over 21. Yeah.
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  I have some money because I have some money from the military,
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  you know. So I started party.
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  OK. And they?
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  A little too much. Started partying a little too
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  much, you know, space nightclub or going to different, you know,
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  in Miami, the whole Miami life. I did that for a.
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  Little bit. And I got tired of it.
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  I did it, you know, for a while. I did it for a good time.
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  You did it for a couple. Years.
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  A couple years, yeah. Fast forward and I didn't really
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  get more than worth the partying and I kind of got sick and tired
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  of it, you know, I got into training, I got into personal
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  training. I was working at 24 hours was.
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  There anything else that you're interested in along the way that
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  you thought you could pursue in your life or you always into?
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  So, but I did that later. I didn't do when I got in the
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  military, I didn't. So I eventually went to a flight
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  school to be a pilot. Get out of here.
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  Yeah, but I didn't continue to be a airline pilot.
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  Yes, that's right. I just got, I went all the way
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  to private pilot. Yeah.
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  And I didn't continue and then? Expensive as hell.
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  It is very expensive. The military only covers a
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  percentage, and I have to pay the flight hours, the gasoline,
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  everything. Yeah, that's right.
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  About $300.00 an hour. Yeah.
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  And you need a minimum of 30-40 hours to, you know, on the
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  books. Yeah.
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  So do the math. Yeah.
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  So I was paying that out of pocket.
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  I'm fight. Fast forward a part of the
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  story, because this was later. This wasn't right after the
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  military. Builder, I'm just hearing about
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  your excitement. Yeah, yeah, sure.
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  Your passions. Yeah, yeah.
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  So. Was it like flying a plane?
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  Scary. Is it?
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  Yeah, because you're on one of these little rinky planes that.
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  Yes, that's why it's scary because if I was in a nice, you
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  know, G6 or something that's pretty much the flies by itself.
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  Yeah, it would not be scary. Why was it scary?
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  Because it's one of those ringy dinky planes, engine prop.
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  I was flying a Piper Cherokee Archer, which is a a low wing
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  aircraft doesn't have it on top of the wing, which is like a
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  Cessna 130, which is it's, let's say it's a little bit easier to
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  fly, but they're pretty much both learner planes.
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  I tell you why I was scary. It was it was scary because on
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  my first solo, it was in Perry Airport.
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  North Perry Airport is right here on University and Pines.
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  OK. Yeah, sure.
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  You're right, and that's where usually all these little planes
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  fly. At I noticed them there.
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  Yeah, sure. You.
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  Know. Because you get those.
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  Banner planes, yes, they fly out of there, right.
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  So that's people usually pick to either be a Banner Pilot to get
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  more hours or whatever. Do they get paid to do that?
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  They do. They do very little.
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  Right. Just to make I'm sure it's just
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  expenses. It covers the expenses of
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  getting the flight out there. They're not having to pay out of
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  pocket, correct and. Then they get the experience,
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  they're happy to plan, a lot of fun, and then they get paid and
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  they don't have to go out of pocket for it.
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  That's a cool gig. That's a lot of fun.
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  Do you ever do that? So I didn't do that.
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  I just went all the way to the private pilot.
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  I didn't continue. I ran out of money to keep
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  funding the flying in this, of course.
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  And I was still, you know, kind of like I didn't I didn't, I
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  didn't know if I wanted to do that as like my as my career, as
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  my hobby, as my real, you know, passion or whatever.
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  Yeah. So I stopped doing that.
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  I was partying and doing the Miami thing for a while off the
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  Derek wasn't religious, wasn't you know, this was your family.
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  Religious or no? So my family's always been
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  observant, OK? We weren't always.
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  We weren't Frome, but we were just, you know, we always did
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  the holidays always, you know, celebrate Shabbat.
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  Yeah. But we know we, we weren't fully
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  shomer shops. OK, I gotcha.
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  Like how I am today. I could say that.
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  Sure. You know.
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  Yeah. But we still, we know we were
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  Jews. We were the best we can, you
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  know, whatever. Sure.
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  Sure. And then later, you know, after
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  I get off the path and then I pretty much do a bunch of stuff
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  off the table, you know, partying.
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  When you're doing this stuff, are you doing it because you're
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  just having fun and you don't care?
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  Kind of good question because that brings when I got out of
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  the military, I didn't know, but I kept searching for something.
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  I was missing the military and I couldn't.
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  Missing the structure. I was missing the structure.
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  Yeah. So this is important that you
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  brought that, that topic back because that goes back to how we
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  started the whole discipline thing.
• 17:46
  Sure. So I was missing the structure
• 17:48
  of the military. Why?
• 17:49
  Because you took me out of the environment where we were just
• 17:51
  talking about too. So you Take Me Out of that
• 17:53
  environment. Eventually, over time, the brain
• 17:55
  you get, you soften up. Yeah.
• 17:56
  So all those disciplines, you start keeping less and less just
• 18:00
  like you keep so much Shabbat. Eventually you start keeping
• 18:02
  less and less when people become too, too religious.
• 18:04
  Yeah. All of a sudden they're.
• 18:05
  Corruptional. Yeah, you see them become super
• 18:08
  religious and all of a sudden then they're in a year and a
• 18:10
  half later because they did too much.
• 18:12
  You know what I mean? So I was out of the environment
• 18:16
  in the the lack of structure. I really affect me.
• 18:20
  So that's why I kind of like went to the partying and all
• 18:23
  this to the point that I was disciplined in my partying.
• 18:26
  Yeah, which they say sometimes like the worst, like, you know,
• 18:29
  the person that's like with bad habits or addicts is the
• 18:32
  disciplined person because he's disciplined in his bad habit and
• 18:35
  he's disciplined in his in his addiction.
• 18:37
  Let's say I could hear. I could hear.
• 18:38
  That I could relate to that a little.
• 18:40
  Bit so it's so discipline can work for you or it can work
• 18:43
  against you. So my discipline that I had with
• 18:45
  instilled within me since I wasn't.
• 18:47
  You't getting something less healthy.
• 18:49
  Pause it. I would just redirect something
• 18:51
  less healthy, which was the party.
• 18:52
  So every Thursday, Friday, Saturday, I was at space
• 18:55
  nightclub, nocturnal, all these clubs I can name off the top of
• 18:58
  my head. Wow.
• 18:59
  But you know, just doing the Miami the.
• 19:00
  Raves, all that fun stuff. I'm sure you weren't thinking
• 19:03
  about that while you were doing it.
• 19:04
  While you're doing it, you're like, let's just have a good.
• 19:05
  Time. Oh yeah, Now I'm telling you now
• 19:07
  in third person. Yeah, 4th.
• 19:09
  Yeah, now I'm. I'm like, Joseph, you did that.
• 19:11
  That's crazy, you know what I mean?
• 19:13
  But at least I lived it. I got it out of my sister.
• 19:15
  Sure, sure, sure. You know.
• 19:16
  I think it's a good thing to do, by the way.
• 19:18
  It is. It is.
• 19:19
  I really do. And I don't even think, I think
• 19:20
  like, and you know, like there's even like that Jewish concept or
• 19:24
  the Torah concepts of like, if it helps you like the idea of
• 19:29
  like, almost like we called teshuva, which is like
• 19:31
  returning. Which is what I'm doing now
• 19:33
  pretty much. Right, which we all should be
• 19:34
  hopefully be doing right all the time because we're always
• 19:37
  deviating from, you know, almost like what our authentic self and
• 19:41
  our true, you know, spiritual self really desires.
• 19:45
  We're always deviating. So we always have to return.
• 19:47
  That's why, you know, it's it's based on that, but a lot of
• 19:51
  times we say that even the even the the mistakes or you know,
• 19:55
  quote UN quote mistakes or sins or whatever that you did, if it
• 19:58
  was all part of leading you back to where you become, those turn
• 20:02
  into positive things. Exactly.
• 20:04
  And it's because you would never be able to get to where you are
• 20:07
  now without. Whiten had gone.
• 20:09
  I hadn't hadn't walked without that.
• 20:11
  All those experiences, all those parting nights because.
• 20:14
  Sometimes I'm like Hashem, why, like why did I, why did it have
• 20:18
  to go through? So that's why shit, you know,
• 20:21
  and then sometimes you're like, well, this person looked like
• 20:23
  they went so easy. This person that because, you
• 20:25
  know, we know we don't see from the outside.
• 20:26
  We don't see what really is going on.
• 20:27
  Everybody's has their own stories going in through their
• 20:29
  own tribulation. That's why that's how our mind
• 20:31
  likes the things, you know? That's just how we're programmed
• 20:33
  you. Know because you compare.
• 20:34
  We're comparative. We're very comparative, very
• 20:36
  comparative, right, Right. So I get out of the environment,
• 20:40
  back to the story. Was there a tangible point in
• 20:42
  time where you said there's enough, I'm not doing this
• 20:43
  anymore? Yes, because I did it so, so
• 20:46
  much every week and four days a week.
• 20:48
  So sometimes so intense, like I'm the most intense person when
• 20:54
  it comes to the things like when I like and when I start to do
• 20:56
  something, I go in all the way. I'm zero to 100.
• 20:59
  Yeah, so party, party. I did it so much to the point
• 21:02
  that I would be at parties, pool parties, everything, whatever,
• 21:07
  VIP and I look around and I'm like, I'm not even having fun
• 21:11
  anymore. That's what you say to yourself.
• 21:12
  You notice. That and and like and I could be
• 21:15
  OK, I would need more drugs, more alcohol, but still it
• 21:19
  wouldn't do it. Right.
• 21:21
  So I'm like the drugs aren't doing it, the alcohol is not
• 21:25
  doing it. And when I start to look around,
• 21:28
  are the people around me the best people that they want the
• 21:31
  best for me, or are they around me because of what I can
• 21:34
  provide, you know, of, of whatever, you know, in that
• 21:37
  moment, you know, so that's when things started to click.
• 21:41
  And that's what I think also, I say to myself, like I had late
• 21:44
  frontal low development because I feel like a lot of things,
• 21:48
  it's like even though I was very mature since I was 17, I did all
• 21:51
  this stuff, there was a lot of parts about the big picture of
• 21:55
  life that still hadn't. You know, lined up with you.
• 21:58
  Lined up and folded. I had a lot of stuff and a lot
• 22:01
  of stuff about things, but I still didn't didn't have the big
• 22:05
  picture that I still see now. And of course in 5-10 years I'm
• 22:08
  going to have a bigger picture than the Joseph that is today.
• 22:10
  Of course, keep building on it and we keep saying, oh wow, if I
• 22:13
  would have done this and this and that.
• 22:15
  Just like I'm telling you that the reason why I did all that
• 22:18
  part is because the lack of structure from going from so
• 22:20
  much structure to no structure. I just completely went all over
• 22:24
  the place and I realized that I'm the type of person that
• 22:26
  needs to have structure. And that's why I also like like
• 22:31
  I came back to Judaism, I came back to structured.
• 22:35
  How did that happen? Through all of these times that
• 22:38
  I've, you know that I've explained different moments,
• 22:41
  just different things that happened.
• 22:42
  Is there anyone that you you reached out to?
• 22:45
  Was there a particular rabbi or particular person, literally?
• 22:48
  He was literally himself, literally spoke to me literally.
• 22:52
  And I started going to Habad of Weston about 2020.
• 22:56
  Yeah, COVID with my dad. My dad always, always goes every
• 23:00
  morning saw her really. He's a, he's always part of the
• 23:03
  the mignon, very important member of the of the community
• 23:06
  over there. Very nice.
• 23:09
  And I started going with him and I started liking it.
• 23:12
  I made a no. I made a friend.
• 23:14
  I made another friend. So you didn't have anyone like
• 23:16
  pushing you or telling you to go ahead and do this, you know?
• 23:18
  There's nothing, nothing that is so unique, yes, nothing, not
• 23:22
  even my parent unique. My parents actually look at me
• 23:24
  and they're and they they see me completely different.
• 23:26
  Like now I'm even more from than them.
• 23:29
  You know what I mean? So, and and you know, it's just
• 23:31
  like I went from 1 Joseph to another Joseph, but I did all.
• 23:35
  Do you believe in God the whole time?
• 23:36
  Absolutely no 100 it. Was just a question as to how,
• 23:39
  how, how, how, what you were gonna do, how much you were
• 23:42
  going to devote yourself to particular things.
• 23:44
  I just, I was the type that it's like I know I believe in God and
• 23:48
  God's always with me and I and I was super confident in my faith
• 23:52
  and I didn't, I didn't have the knowledge that I have now about
• 23:56
  what prayer means and all the structure.
• 23:59
  You know what I mean? To you?
• 24:00
  What does prayer mean to you? It's the it's the moment that I
• 24:03
  connect with a sham that I can actually feel like the whole
• 24:07
  world stops. And in that moment, nothing
• 24:11
  matters and it aligns my thoughts.
• 24:14
  It aligns just my just we call my shockers.
• 24:16
  You get everything, everything is In Sync and and I'm just like
• 24:21
  in a, in a transcendent state and that everything I can just
• 24:25
  my intuition is better. My decision making is better.
• 24:29
  Everything which goes to, you know, praying first thing in the
• 24:32
  morning, it lines up your brain. You're priming your brain for
• 24:35
  the rest of the day. Thousand first thing in the
• 24:38
  morning. Never thought about that timing
• 24:39
  your brain that's like. That's right.
• 24:41
  That's right. You're priming.
• 24:42
  Working out. When you work out first thing in
• 24:44
  the morning, what are you priming?
• 24:45
  You're priming your discipline. By the way, it's true as I love.
• 24:49
  Jogging at 5:00 in the morning. Jacking.
• 24:51
  Day with the dog. 5:00 AM Club people that work out at 4:30,
• 24:55
  they could easily work out at 8:00 AM.
• 24:57
  Some people don't have to do the rest of the day, you know what I
• 25:00
  mean, But they why do they get up at 4:30?
• 25:03
  Why do the people make fun? Oh, why is Ashton Hall waking
• 25:06
  about 3:30 in the morning for we're going discipline?
• 25:08
  It's it's because what what that's doing?
• 25:10
  It's not what what the action of the we're going to the gym and
• 25:13
  no, it's what it's doing to your brain subconsciously that you're
• 25:16
  a type of person that can control their emotions.
• 25:19
  Beautiful that can do. Do whatever you tell your body
• 25:24
  to do. Your body is not telling you.
• 25:26
  What to? That's why I love running, by
• 25:28
  the way. I love running.
• 25:30
  I love running. It's because I'm constantly
• 25:32
  telling that voice in my head, shut up.
• 25:35
  You're not done, you're not done.
• 25:36
  Keep going, keep going. You know, you got this, you got
• 25:39
  this, you've done this before, you'll do it again.
• 25:41
  You know, this is hard. This is hot, this sucks, this is
• 25:44
  fun. You're going to you're going to
• 25:45
  keep on doing this and and like, there's two voices.
• 25:48
  There really are two voices and you have to.
• 25:52
  I feel at least my my own experience is that the more you
• 25:56
  can give the different voices different amount of value.
• 25:59
  Let's bring a little bit of Tanya into this.
• 26:02
  Let's do it. Tanya is a Can you want to
• 26:04
  explain what Tanya is? So Tanya is is pretty much the
• 26:08
  Habad Bible, let's call it without, you know, of course.
• 26:14
  So it was written by the altar Rebbe, of course.
• 26:16
  OK, who is the 1st? The Baba.
• 26:18
  Who is the 1st? The Baba Traba, Yes.
• 26:20
  And the Baba. Tanya explains that you have
• 26:25
  your godly soul and your animalistic soul, your godly
• 26:28
  soul's on your right, your animalistic soul's on your left.
• 26:31
  And we have to try to do everything possible so that our
• 26:34
  godly soul overflows into the left ventricle of our heart so
• 26:39
  we could kind of control our animalistic soul.
• 26:42
  We're not trying to remove it because we still need it because
• 26:45
  it's still a part of us, because if we didn't need it, Hashem
• 26:47
  wouldn't have given us both of these.
• 26:50
  You know, we say our bodies still need it.
• 26:53
  That's what for you. So we can have our free will, so
• 26:55
  we can have everything that we need to.
• 26:56
  We can be human beings when we were created to function.
• 27:00
  So timing is very important to this because it goes back to the
• 27:03
  two voices in your head. And you can look at you can, you
• 27:06
  can use that example. The good voice is the godly
• 27:08
  voice and the bad voice is the animalistic voice.
• 27:12
  So logic is up here in the mind, right?
• 27:15
  And if you follow your heart, you're following your emotions.
• 27:19
  One of the. Foundations of of Judaism is
• 27:21
  Shema when you say don't chase after your heart and don't chase
• 27:27
  after your eyes you know those are those are emotional those
• 27:31
  are instinctual and reflexive be thoughtful be.
• 27:35
  A human being. A human being, not a man, not a
• 27:38
  Bahama. That's right.
• 27:39
  Wow, wow. So if that's the case, do you,
• 27:44
  I, I think I've been thinking a lot about this in the last bunch
• 27:47
  of months, maybe last year or so, but do you think that the
• 27:53
  techno technological development that we're you know.
• 27:57
  Like AI? AI and stuff.
• 27:59
  But which I've been using ChatGPT, I love it.
• 28:01
  And you tell it, hey, do this and this and this and do that
• 28:04
  and then and then you say, no, I didn't like that.
• 28:06
  Erase this and do this and it'll change everything for you later
• 28:09
  to your personal assistant. Oh yeah, it's incredible.
• 28:11
  But it is scary because, for example, I'm scrolling through
• 28:14
  videos, I see 100 foot Anaconda on the Amazonian River and
• 28:19
  they're this guy's flying out of a helicopter.
• 28:21
  I send it to my cousin and it's like, oh, the for the sighting
• 28:24
  of the biggest Anaconda in the world.
• 28:26
  And the video looks it was real, it was AI, it was fake,
• 28:30
  obviously. Yeah.
• 28:30
  I mean when Anaconda the size of like 100 foot like there's.
• 28:33
  Big Anaconda we're getting, we're getting to really weird.
• 28:36
  Points. But it looks so real.
• 28:38
  That's the scary part. So imagine if more and more
• 28:41
  footage comes out different things.
• 28:43
  What are you going to tell your kid?
• 28:44
  Oh, is this is not what are they believing what they're seeing,
• 28:47
  you know, so now, obviously not even now with the access that a
• 28:51
  child has to the Internet is. Forget about that 10 years from
• 28:55
  now. Think.
• 28:56
  About how much? Because how fast we're moving,
• 28:58
  we're not going. To even know what reality is in
• 29:00
  10 years. Because AI.
• 29:02
  Is so. Already within us and it's
• 29:05
  already doing so much stuff automatically, like losing jobs
• 29:08
  of a lot of people, that eventually a lot of people we're
• 29:11
  going to have to pivot, are going to have to pivot of what
• 29:13
  they do. Their careers.
• 29:14
  A lot of careers will be obsolete.
• 29:16
  Yeah, completely obsolete. And what are we left with?
• 29:19
  And you're going to be and you're going to be left with
• 29:20
  certain things that I guarantee you people might not listen and
• 29:24
  like like hearing this, but it's going to turn into kind of like
• 29:27
  the government, you know, creating these, you know,
• 29:29
  socialist type of jobs for people to kind of just, you
• 29:32
  know, have. And then you'll have the really
• 29:34
  rich and then you'll have the really poor.
• 29:36
  And then the middle class will be kind of gone because you
• 29:39
  either. You think so?
• 29:40
  Yes, because the way it's moving, it's either right now
• 29:43
  like either you're like doing all this stuff, you know, you're
• 29:47
  with social media, your YouTube, you're doing all this making
• 29:50
  money with, you know, with affiliate marketing and this big
• 29:53
  boom with the Amazon drop shipping you.
• 29:55
  Know what I think the difference is going to be?
• 29:57
  I don't think it's going to be a question of wealth or not.
• 30:01
  I think that we're going to become so wealthy that
• 30:03
  everyone's going to be taken care of.
• 30:04
  You think everybody's going to be rich?
• 30:06
  Here's what I think. I think everyone.
• 30:08
  I think everything accounted for.
• 30:11
  Yeah, I hope so. Listen, I hope every, for
• 30:13
  example, I hope that we'll accumulate enough wealth and
• 30:16
  resources and commodities that people will at least have house
• 30:21
  and food provided for and probably medicine probably,
• 30:25
  right? Because those are all AI.
• 30:26
  It's essentially essentially, you know, we can find a way to
• 30:29
  pretty much make that, you know, free for everyone, right?
• 30:33
  The question I think that's going to separate the quote UN
• 30:35
  quote upper class from the quote UN quote lower class is going to
• 30:38
  be how autonomous of a human being are you going to be?
• 30:44
  Are you the type of being human being that's going to live a
• 30:46
  life where you choose what you're going to do and take
• 30:49
  action and choose to go through challenges and struggle?
• 30:52
  Talking about exactly. Or are you going to be the human
• 30:55
  being that is very comfortable and OK with sitting on their
• 30:58
  couch watching Netflix, taking checks and watching the
• 31:01
  consuming? You're going to be either a
• 31:03
  creator or a consumer. You're going to be either
• 31:05
  autonomous or you're going to be a couch potato.
• 31:08
  And I think that's what's going to separate in the future.
• 31:11
  I don't think so. I don't think it's it's going to
• 31:12
  be something as and you can almost say it's quote UN quote
• 31:15
  trivial to say like money, because what's like we talk
• 31:18
  about like fighting over like resources.
• 31:21
  We're fighting over what houses we all look around you.
• 31:23
  We all have houses, you know, Like you know.
• 31:25
  Like, like, there's a lot of people falling behind.
• 31:29
  In terms of what in? Terms of growth.
• 31:32
  Right. But what's growth?
• 31:34
  Growth would. Be just just intellectually.
• 31:39
  Intellectually, people. People that are not keeping up
• 31:42
  with the computers and all this technology, yes, like.
• 31:46
  That's what's going. To be my parents, they tell me,
• 31:48
  how do you do this in the computer?
• 31:49
  How do we, how do we do this for this?
• 31:50
  And unfortunately, like a lot of businesses, like if you're in
• 31:54
  your new, your 50s, sixties, 70s, and you ran your business a
• 31:57
  certain way and it always worked, that might not be the
• 32:00
  way it's going to continue to work.
• 32:01
  Because now you have these young 20 year olds, yeah, that are
• 32:05
  pushing at social media all this.
• 32:07
  And they're pretty much taking the majority of, you know.
• 32:10
  But do you think that like, I think for example, that our
• 32:13
  parents generation is probably going to be the last generation
• 32:16
  that has the pleasure of enjoying the world as it is like
• 32:20
  this and like they can retire and like kind of like ride off
• 32:23
  into the sunset of like what this world was like that they're
• 32:26
  used to. And but I don't think that we're
• 32:28
  going to have the same luxury. I think that you and I are
• 32:31
  probably in the next 30-40 years from now, we're going to
• 32:34
  experience a lot of change and we're going to have to do a lot
• 32:37
  of we're going to be really lit on our toes.
• 32:39
  We're going to have to be able to adjust and move.
• 32:42
  And learn very quickly. Adapting.
• 32:44
  Very much adapt. Have to be adaptive because I
• 32:48
  think that that is going to make that is going to separate
• 32:53
  different. Classes, which is why I'm
• 32:54
  telling you, I've been using AI. I didn't want to fall into
• 32:56
  ChatGPT. I didn't want to do all this.
• 32:58
  I don't I don't want to, but I because I'm realizing that if I
• 33:02
  don't get on it, it's going to leave.
• 33:04
  And the people that are using it and the people are getting way
• 33:06
  more ahead, getting way more productive in their, you know,
• 33:09
  in their type, in their work that they're getting done
• 33:11
  because they pretty much have an assistant.
• 33:13
  For free automatically. Here's one example.
• 33:15
  Here's one example that I that I just implemented right, my dad,
• 33:19
  the last couple. So generally speaking, so I use
• 33:21
  sales primarily for my income, right.
• 33:26
  It's I have a base plus Commission on.
• 33:28
  I work with my dad family business, sell medical equipment
• 33:31
  and. My dad did that for a while.
• 33:33
  Oh, yeah, and it's, it's it's. Pairs and stuff like that.
• 33:36
  So we do the actual like machines, like ultrasounds and
• 33:39
  patient monitors and Dexos and stuff like that.
• 33:41
  Right. By the way, I want a DEXA.
• 33:42
  Dexa I hook you up? That's that's primarily why I
• 33:54
  sell to now because the insurance rebates are minuscule,
• 33:58
  but the body fat composition, whole body composition is out of
• 34:03
  pocket. So that's really the only way.
• 34:05
  Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
• 34:06
  And those in body motion machines.
• 34:08
  They no, no, no, they suck, dude.
• 34:10
  We'll talk about that at another time.
• 34:11
  Yeah, so so, but you know, so one thing I do to I I don't, I
• 34:16
  hate cold calling. I hate the feeling of bothering
• 34:18
  someone and judge like. If I don't see the number and I
• 34:20
  don't have it saved. You don't pick up.
• 34:22
  I'm not picking up. So what I do is I run and
• 34:24
  protect. Me after and I'm like hey Joe da
• 34:26
  da da da da and then that's. What I do, so I'll do emails,
• 34:29
  I'll do emails and stuff, right? But you know, So what I do was I
• 34:33
  run Google advertisements, so when doctors search ultrasound
• 34:37
  machines or Dexas. I pop up because your SEO, you
• 34:40
  have all that set up. So it's like.
• 34:42
  You know, So what happens is they call me now, it's not a
• 34:46
  cold lead now it's someone that's initiating with me that
• 34:50
  it shows they're interested in something.
• 34:51
  And so I'm happy now. You guys are paying top dollar
• 34:53
  to be able to. Be correct off of that, correct?
• 34:55
  Yes, correct, correct. It's not cheap, but it's it's,
• 34:58
  it's, it's part of the. It's worth it, yeah.
• 35:00
  Now is it pay per click or is OK, OK, it is.
• 35:03
  That's good. Because if it's just you're
• 35:04
  paying money and no one. Take it pay per click you see.
• 35:06
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They break everything down
• 35:08
  really, really well. But, and recently last couple of
• 35:11
  weeks and it always takes changing up because you know,
• 35:16
  the campaigns, oh, you know, Google's always changing their
• 35:18
  formula. You always need to just change
• 35:20
  up the wording in the campaigns that you're doing.
• 35:22
  In the last couple of weeks, I haven't been able to figure out
• 35:24
  a really good one and it's been slower for work, right?
• 35:28
  My dad called me up and goes, listen, man, like we got to
• 35:30
  figure something out. We got to get, we got to get
• 35:32
  some traction. So I went to ChatGPT.
• 35:34
  I was like, I'm so stupid for not doing this right.
• 35:36
  I said, give me 50 OBGYN centers because we have a lot of 3D40
• 35:42
  ultrasound machines. Got three babies in 3D40.
• 35:45
  I'm like give me a list of 50 e-mail addresses around the
• 35:48
  country of OBGYN practices right?
• 35:52
  Boom, 30 seconds later that would it take me?
• 35:55
  Forever, because usually it doesn't pop up that yes.
• 35:59
  My time of my life and I would have been miserable and banging
• 36:01
  my head against the wall and I'm like, I'm Googling businesses
• 36:04
  and trying to find their e-mail addresses and are they?
• 36:06
  Interested. Where are they?
• 36:08
  Got me in seconds and I am a freaking idiot if I don't take
• 36:12
  advantage of that. That's what I'm saying.
• 36:13
  That's exactly I realize that. So when I when I realized couple
• 36:17
  and I put I got on it maybe like less than a year ago, I started
• 36:20
  using it. It's because it's what I were
• 36:22
  just saying. If we don't get on that train,
• 36:25
  it'll leave us behind to the point that we'll, we'll feel
• 36:29
  like we're like, you know what I mean?
• 36:30
  Like we're indigenous. We're indigenous people.
• 36:32
  And we don't know how to navigate, you know, you know,
• 36:34
  the, the Internet and the computer.
• 36:36
  Like we need to get on top of that.
• 36:37
  Yeah. So I'm doing that for the
• 36:39
  podcast too now. Like, you know what?
• 36:40
  I want to talk to an investigative journalist.
• 36:42
  Give me 30 investigative journalist that, that, that
• 36:44
  that, that, you know that talk about XY and Z topics.
• 36:47
  Boom, done. No, I love it dude it.
• 36:50
  Is and by the way, I until I figured that out, I've been
• 36:55
  spending probably 15 hours a week or 20 hours a week
• 37:00
  researching people and trying to find interesting people.
• 37:03
  I just cut that time in. In not even.
• 37:07
  Right. And now the question of what?
• 37:08
  Time No wait. So then I just got an ad for
• 37:12
  this bot that calls 1800 phone numbers per minute.
• 37:16
  No way some crazy number. So you're of course you need.
• 37:20
  It's all spam. Right, no pops on.
• 37:23
  People's phone is spam. What do you think the turn
• 37:25
  around rate on? What do you think the success
• 37:26
  rate on those 1800 people? Are then I don't I don't know I
• 37:29
  don't know because I I just know I saw yeah though yeah of
• 37:32
  course, but you would have to have a lead database obviously
• 37:35
  of you know what whatever 10,000 emails yeah or 10,000 phone
• 37:39
  numbers and then this bot calls it out or sends text messages
• 37:43
  out yes hey, this is such. A touch you listen to other
• 37:46
  podcasts or. Yeah, of course.
• 37:47
  What's my favorite or Mosey extra Mosey?
• 37:51
  OK. And this guy great, you know,
• 37:52
  OK, the Nick Bear podcast, you know, Nick, go one more.
• 37:57
  No like a runner. Army Ranger.
• 38:00
  One of the biggest guys on YouTube love.
• 38:03
  Sean Ryan, do you like Sean? Ryan, Sean Ryan, I was just
• 38:05
  watching today. Which one?
• 38:08
  Tim Tebow. And then the other one with the
• 38:10
  guy that was undercover for all cases.
• 38:13
  Yeah. So how was that?
• 38:14
  I was. I didn't finish it.
• 38:15
  I didn't finish. It good how?
• 38:17
  Far I was I literally if I open up my YouTube, I think it'll pop
• 38:20
  up. Look, look, that's so.
• 38:21
  Funny, I just. Started dude CIAFBIAI like 11
• 38:25
  minutes in, yeah. Dude, I want that's that one.
• 38:27
  I thought that's all great. I think that he I probably
• 38:30
  listen to one out of every like between 5 and 10 episodes.
• 38:33
  His Shawn Ryan is the GOAT when it comes to getting the right
• 38:37
  people in front of that seat. You know what I mean?
• 38:39
  Like so. Oh, yeah.
• 38:40
  Like he's he's can get people that talented.
• 38:42
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, because he was loving.
• 38:44
  He's only cute. See you like CIA.
• 38:47
  You know, he's he's got he's got a good resume.
• 38:50
  You know he knows the right people.
• 38:52
  So what I was trying to, So what I was getting at earlier full
• 38:55
  circle and then we'll continue talking about a little bit more
• 38:58
  about your life because I'm really excited about that.
• 39:00
  But one of the things I was thinking about and talking about
• 39:03
  was what if, you know, our notion of Mashiach or the
• 39:11
  Messiah or whatever it is, What do we say?
• 39:14
  Like we talk all the time about like the days where we're not
• 39:17
  tempted with our like animal side, the days that we give
• 39:20
  clarity, like as to what are like what the right thing to do
• 39:22
  is. What if that is us like wedding
• 39:25
  out our consciousness from our bodies and like, what if like if
• 39:30
  we're like, you know, like where, where technology is going
• 39:33
  with AI, with quantum computing, with like all the groundbreaking
• 39:36
  things that are feel like happening every 5 minutes of
• 39:38
  every day. Yeah, every week.
• 39:39
  Every. Every day.
• 39:39
  Every day you're reading these crazy articles.
• 39:42
  Now the markets booming, yeah. It's like the world is just, the
• 39:45
  world is just moving at a pace that we can't keep track of.
• 39:48
  But I'm not like the way I like to think about these things.
• 39:52
  I'm very really, I've been religious my whole life.
• 39:54
  I've been observing my whole life, but one of the things I
• 39:57
  think about is that when you think about these Bible stories,
• 40:00
  you think about these scenarios, these, you know, the leaving
• 40:05
  Egypt and you leave it by splitting the sea and receiving
• 40:07
  the Torah and everything like that.
• 40:09
  And you're like, well, OK, so it's happening to a small group
• 40:13
  of people. What's everyone else on the
• 40:14
  planet hearing? What's everyone else think?
• 40:16
  Is everyone like that's a conspiracy theory.
• 40:18
  Does everyone think like like what's like, what's everyone's
• 40:21
  reaction? Like what's action in and what
• 40:23
  if? What's happening now?
• 40:26
  Are, are these signs of something really great
• 40:29
  happening? And it's a question of whether
• 40:31
  or not we're willing to see it or not.
• 40:32
  Yes. Because like when the Jews were
• 40:34
  leaving Egypt, I'm sure that a lot of people didn't want to see
• 40:37
  it the way it was. That's what that's what a Malik
• 40:39
  represents. You know, Malik represents and
• 40:41
  you know, those are the people that that were, that were told
• 40:43
  to, to snuff out and to kill and to eradicate their, this
• 40:48
  philosophy, this perspective of skepticism and hate and, and you
• 40:53
  know, big deal that nothing's meaningful, nothing's valuable
• 40:56
  in your life and nothing's valuable in the world and
• 40:58
  everything is chaos and random. And we're supposed to snuff that
• 41:01
  out and insist that it's important, right?
• 41:04
  And like, how do we not know that that's what's happening,
• 41:06
  right? Now, yeah, I I think it you,
• 41:08
  you're on something there. I think, I think we are on that
• 41:12
  and it and it won't be something like we're thinking it's going
• 41:15
  to be. It's not, that's right, right.
• 41:17
  And you know that, you know, there's a famous Midrash,
• 41:20
  there's a famous, you know, you know, there's, so there's the
• 41:24
  written law, there's oral law, of course, of course.
• 41:26
  And, and you know, there's a commentary, the oral commentary
• 41:31
  on the, on the Torah. And one of the things they talk
• 41:34
  about is that 3/4 of the Jews didn't leave Egypt.
• 41:37
  Right they stayed. Right they stayed.
• 41:38
  They could not. Bring themselves to adapt and to
• 41:41
  change their environment. You know 3/4 of that and 600,000
• 41:46
  left which shows how many of that you know 600,000 men
• 41:48
  between the age of 18 and 20 and 20.
• 41:50
  And 50 maybe or 50I? Mean something like that, I
• 41:53
  don't know, 18 and 50 was just say and then since they a couple
• 41:56
  million people right left, 3/4 of them were dead.
• 42:00
  That means that something's going to be happening where most
• 42:03
  Jews or most people are not going to be able to accept
• 42:06
  reality for what it is. And we have to keep and, and we
• 42:09
  have to keep our minds open to like what what the future is
• 42:12
  going to be and like that it's going to be something unfamiliar
• 42:15
  and strange. We can look at it.
• 42:18
  I mean, let's let's talk about COVID.
• 42:21
  Let's talk about it. What do you think?
• 42:22
  COVID, it was this. I mean, it left everybody, you
• 42:26
  know. That shattered the world.
• 42:28
  That shattered the world. And then now we hear about, oh,
• 42:30
  it was fake, it was this, it was that.
• 42:32
  It wasn't really fake. It wasn't fake.
• 42:34
  It was a real. It was a real.
• 42:35
  Thing but unless. He made by men.
• 42:37
  Right. But when they say it was fake,
• 42:38
  it was they made this big commotion of all the distancing,
• 42:42
  all these rules that were not really made-up, made-up because
• 42:45
  they didn't really have information on this disease.
• 42:48
  Yeah. So, you know, you could say 6
• 42:50
  feet, not 6 feet. Don't cough.
• 42:51
  In front of the face. No mad, no mad, whatever it is.
• 42:54
  But yeah, Mask it's a, you know, whatever people were wearing
• 42:57
  masks inside their car, driving like self people were still are
• 43:01
  like, you know, actually thank God for COVID.
• 43:07
  Because tell. Me that if it wasn't because of
• 43:09
  COVID I wouldn't be here today first.
• 43:12
  Of all, why? It's just because COVID gave me
• 43:16
  the the structure to come and find the gym that I'm at now
• 43:21
  with one of my trainer. Partners OK so let's go back to
• 43:24
  let's go back to bodybuild so OK so now that was a great
• 43:27
  philosophical conversation a lot of fun we now so now we talked
• 43:30
  about military partying this whole philosophical conversation
• 43:35
  and now you're and now when you're starting to become more
• 43:40
  observant I guess you know more religious and.
• 43:43
  Which is like 2020, so about five years ago.
• 43:47
  Wait, OK, so you were in the army told about 2013?
• 43:50
  Navy in the Navy. In the Navy rather till about
• 43:52
  2013. Yeah.
• 43:53
  And then for like for like 7 years. 6-7 years you're
• 43:58
  partying. Seven years.
• 43:59
  And at this point, were you working out were?
• 44:01
  You I was working with you big, were you?
• 44:03
  I was big. You were getting.
• 44:04
  Big testosterone I was. Big I was.
• 44:06
  Yeah, were. You afraid to take?
• 44:08
  Testosterone. No, I was not.
• 44:09
  I was not an afraid kid. No.
• 44:11
  And now I have respect, because now you know I know better.
• 44:14
  OK, so so where you so so how'd that get started?
• 44:16
  Because I just wanted the muscle.
• 44:18
  I wanted this so I took the you. Just want to be huge.
• 44:20
  Creatine, the protein shake. I did it all, you know.
• 44:22
  OK. And I achieved the physique that
• 44:24
  I wanted. Did you?
• 44:25
  I did, I did. I just was never content because
• 44:29
  I became obsessed with like this body dysmorphia that I didn't
• 44:33
  think I was enough and I was shred.
• 44:34
  By the way. And I was freaking 21567 percent
• 44:39
  body fat, ready to compete. Everything.
• 44:43
  Guy Levy, he'll talk. He was my coach for a while in
• 44:45
  bodybuilding. OK, Yeah.
• 44:47
  But I never got on stage. Really.
• 44:50
  Why? Because I couldn't.
• 44:52
  I'll tell you this right now, I didn't think I was ready the
• 44:56
  whole time and I look back at. The picture already.
• 44:59
  We talked about, he obviously said yes and we were talking
• 45:01
  with he he had another guy who was training at the time, Colin
• 45:05
  Robinson, I think his name was. He won and everything.
• 45:08
  He competed and I should have competed at the same time when
• 45:10
  he was competing, but I was. Tabia diet, right?
• 45:15
  I was on the so I don't. He got me off of it.
• 45:16
  No, I think I don't. Remember he told, he told me
• 45:18
  that he got, he, he, he, he, he told me he didn't like the top
• 45:21
  of your diet. No, I think he put me on like
• 45:23
  ground Turkey or ground beef or something.
• 45:24
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember.
• 45:26
  OK, but Long story short, I was. The point is that I got into the
• 45:29
  bodybuilding thing. The bodybuilding thing, I was
• 45:31
  very successful in achieving the physique I wanted.
• 45:35
  I never thought it was enough. So I wanted more and I was big.
• 45:38
  I was like literally just, I was taking testosterone a bunch.
• 45:41
  So I was very muscular, very ripped, but I still didn't think
• 45:45
  I was ripped enough or big enough.
• 45:47
  So that created some type of like mental.
• 45:49
  Where did they come from? Come from my own snow come from
• 45:53
  comes from my OCD from my from from the military, let's call it
• 45:57
  the military gave me gives me this like OCD of everything has
• 46:00
  to be perfect. So I didn't see and perfect
• 46:03
  doesn't exist. We're not perfect.
• 46:05
  We'll never be perfect. But I'm trying to look like I
• 46:09
  would say Mr. Olympia magazine. I want to look like that.
• 46:13
  Not going to look like Mr. Olympia because Mr. Olympia, he
• 46:16
  looks like that the specific time when he's dehydrated, when
• 46:19
  everything, all the points, all the stars align and everything
• 46:21
  is perfect in that specific moment on stage with the right
• 46:25
  lighting with the tan. And then they take that picture
• 46:28
  that you see and you're comparing yourself to.
• 46:30
  So, Long story short, it's pretty.
• 46:33
  Unhealthy. No, no, I said.
• 46:34
  The whole process sounds pretty healthy.
• 46:36
  It's very hunchy. So you, you, you're doing all
• 46:38
  the healthy stuff, the eating healthy, the working out, but
• 46:41
  you're also. Mentally, it's not.
• 46:42
  You're doing, you're being unhealthy mentally because
• 46:44
  you're creating this like psychosis or something.
• 46:46
  So interesting. To a point that I'm there.
• 46:48
  Happened a lot to a lot of bodybuilders.
• 46:50
  Yes, yes, to a point that I wasn't enjoying life.
• 46:52
  Everything was so restricted and you know, and I still wasn't
• 46:55
  happy with the result to the point that I just, you know, I
• 46:58
  stopped the bodybuilding. Obviously I was still into
• 47:00
  fitness and still, you know, working and everything.
• 47:03
  But the bodybuilding, you know, you take a break a day.
• 47:05
  Tupperware. No way you.
• 47:08
  Know what I mean? What was that like?
• 47:09
  What are 8 meals a day like? What do you eat?
• 47:12
  It was literally salmon, ground beef, boiled hard boiled eggs,
• 47:16
  protein shakes, more protein bars.
• 47:19
  All protein, no carbs. No, no, no, no, no.
• 47:21
  Of course, sweet potato. I was eating a bunch of Oh yeah,
• 47:23
  yeah. So what's your diet?
• 47:25
  Like 4000? I would think I was eating like
• 47:27
  4100 calories at that point. And are you burning those
• 47:30
  calories off? Are you in order to be able to
• 47:33
  gain mass? My skin on my stomach was
• 47:35
  literally like, like thin, like, like paper.
• 47:37
  Like, really? Yeah, it was literally because
• 47:40
  from literally you're working. I was working out 2-3 hours a
• 47:43
  day. And what do you when you're
• 47:44
  working out 2-3 hours a day, you're hitting ultra specific
• 47:48
  areas? Right, a lot of isolation, but I
• 47:50
  was at a point that I literally just, I would go and just work
• 47:53
  out. Just hey, all right, let me hit
• 47:55
  buys and tries and just go until failure, pretty much.
• 47:59
  But I I would recover so quickly, you know?
• 48:01
  Yeah. When you're on when you're on
• 48:02
  TRT, you're recovering twice as fast.
• 48:04
  You know what I mean? Testosterone.
• 48:06
  Yeah. You're on TRT, you're recovering
• 48:07
  twice as fast. I'm calling TRT.
• 48:09
  It wasn't through a doctor. It wasn't a proper TRT.
• 48:12
  Yeah, You know, treatment. I'm trying to, you know, make it
• 48:15
  sound nice. This as a kid, I'm doing this as
• 48:16
  a kid I would get I would get the testosterone from like how?
• 48:19
  Do you connect with the guy again?
• 48:22
  How did it happen? USI the gym in Weston, OK?
• 48:25
  Me and Guy, we, we were neighbors growing up, OK,
• 48:29
  Literally we lived in the same subdivision of the neighborhood,
• 48:32
  not even in the same neighborhood, but in the same
• 48:34
  subdivision of the neighborhood. We were going in the bus, in the
• 48:36
  same bus and everything, and we connected because he was, I
• 48:41
  think at the time, training people from USI, the gym.
• 48:46
  He wasn't working there as a coach, I think, or maybe he was.
• 48:49
  He was doing his own coaching, his own thing, but he was
• 48:52
  working at that gym, Monster, he was coaching.
• 48:53
  Bodybuilding in MMA. Yes, I think he had.
• 48:57
  The company was called SD Physiques or something like
• 49:01
  that. Yeah.
• 49:02
  Guy correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, I think it was SD
• 49:05
  physique, yeah. I went to.
• 49:09
  I got adjusted from him earlier this week.
• 49:11
  I need to go. I have.
• 49:12
  Dude and you check out the facility, dude, I go to jiu
• 49:17
  jitsu there probably three times a week now.
• 49:19
  Two times a week now. Well, he rented a space in this
• 49:23
  big gym and they get NFL combine players, UFC fighters, and then
• 49:30
  the there's there's a jiu jitsu, boxing, kickboxing and MMA
• 49:35
  classes that all happened in that area too.
• 49:38
  And so he introduced me to the coach, and about a month ago I
• 49:42
  started going, oh wow, dude, it's my favorite thing in the
• 49:44
  world. It's so cool.
• 49:45
  Dude, what you were describing about like nothing else is there
• 49:48
  when I'm when I'm when we're rolling jiu jitsu.
• 49:51
  I had a baby two weeks ago. I do not even know that baby
• 49:55
  exists while I'm rolling. Dude, my wife exists.
• 50:00
  It's like there is nothing. You know why?
• 50:03
  Well. Ukrainian.
• 50:04
  You know why? You know why?
• 50:06
  Why? Because you have to be present.
• 50:08
  You know why? Because you're in fight or
• 50:09
  flight. Yeah, you have to be present.
• 50:12
  And we live our everyday, and I'm adjusting, dude, I feel
• 50:14
  automatic in the same room. People get up at the same time.
• 50:17
  We'd go to the kitchen, we'd grab the same cup, make the same
• 50:20
  cup of coffee. We're living on autopilot.
• 50:22
  Yeah, some things change within our day, but for the most part,
• 50:25
  you'd grab it, go into the, you know, the car you drive to
• 50:28
  school, drop the same thing. So.
• 50:30
  But when I, when I do it and I'm like, it's interesting because I
• 50:35
  started doing it because I'm a wimp.
• 50:37
  Like I, I, I, I my biggest, my biggest flaw as a human being is
• 50:40
  that I'm afraid is that I don't have enough confidence myself to
• 50:43
  handle the unknown. I don't feel like I could handle
• 50:46
  it right. Even though I, I know
• 50:48
  intellectually I probably can. Most of the time I don't feel
• 50:52
  that way. Like my brain and my and and how
• 50:54
  I feel. Do not line up.
• 50:55
  Gotcha. No, no, I understand.
• 50:57
  And this has been so beneficial because when I started, when I
• 51:01
  started training, I started rolling.
• 51:04
  I would give up, but what I was I.
• 51:05
  Call them crotch sniffers. Yeah, that's me, dude.
• 51:08
  And I was thinking, dude, I had too many crotches in my face,
• 51:11
  that's what. Jorge Masvidal would say the
• 51:13
  Jorge Masvidal. No, you know how her Masvidal is
• 51:17
  the the fighter. He's from Miami.
• 51:19
  He would fight with Kimbo, slice the backyard fights.
• 51:21
  Dude I started following fighting a year ago.
• 51:24
  So he was in the UFC when oh I I love.
• 51:26
  I look him up. I love dude.
• 51:28
  Yeah. What do you think over this past
• 51:30
  this past fight? Of Bilal Muhammad.
• 51:33
  Muhammad Yeah. I'm not even going to say
• 51:35
  anything because we're alive. He.
• 51:38
  Lost. I'm just going to say that do.
• 51:39
  You think he's a good fighter? Do you think Bilal is a good
• 51:41
  fighter? No, he's boring.
• 51:42
  He doesn't finish any fights. He can't even finish his
• 51:44
  girlfriend probably. And yes, no, actually his
• 51:48
  actually his most his fight, his most exciting fight was this
• 51:52
  last one and he lost. Yeah, imagine.
• 51:55
  And I'm not here just talking shit, but he just so I like
• 51:59
  fighters that are going to give you more action like a Charles
• 52:02
  Aleveda. Or by the way, oh, there's not
• 52:04
  going to last. I don't think he's going to last
• 52:06
  a round against the poirier. I don't know.
• 52:09
  The Poirier is going to be more in a round.
• 52:11
  Because the four years younger Temporia is hungrier and he's
• 52:14
  just such a piece. But, and I love to.
• 52:18
  For running, dude. RIA has a facility, hyperbaric
• 52:22
  chamber, all the red light therapy, eyes, everything you
• 52:26
  can name this. Guy does.
• 52:27
  How do you know that? Because he has this whole thing
• 52:30
  on YouTube and. Dude dude I'm so sad that he's
• 52:35
  not fighting Islam yet but. Islam walked away.
• 52:37
  He vacated you think you. Think that Islam is afraid of
• 52:39
  him. I don't, I'm not going to use
• 52:41
  the word afraid because I don't think no fighter.
• 52:44
  I don't think no, no fighter that's in the UFC, you could say
• 52:47
  that they're afraid of a fighter because you wouldn't be a
• 52:49
  fighter if you're afraid of a fighter.
• 52:50
  You wouldn't be. But you are.
• 52:52
  You, you might have a little respect for somebody and you
• 52:55
  might be a little intimidated, but it's just looks like if
• 52:57
  you're a shark diver, you're not scared of sharks.
• 53:00
  Yeah, You know what I mean? There's sharks that are more
• 53:03
  scary than others but you jump in the water with.
• 53:05
  Olivera. I love Olivera, dude, I think.
• 53:08
  I don't think he's. So complete everything.
• 53:11
  He jumps, clearly he stands up. If you want to stand up the
• 53:14
  whole time, he'll stand up with you.
• 53:15
  The whole yeah. But then there's guys that want
• 53:17
  to hug the entire time because they know on the feet they can't
• 53:20
  win, so then they're going to go straight for the takedown.
• 53:23
  Do you grab? The leg do you?
• 53:24
  Anything. No, but I, one of my really good
• 53:26
  friends is Sydney Outlaw. He fought for Bellator MMA.
• 53:29
  No way. Yes.
• 53:30
  And I trained him for a while. I trained him for one of his
• 53:32
  fights. He.
• 53:32
  Physically tell like. No, so we do strength training.
• 53:35
  I don't do the fight training, but I do the strength training.
• 53:37
  So I do strength for him for a while.
• 53:39
  Really. Yeah, I was a strength training
• 53:40
  coach for a while. Right now he's training out of
• 53:43
  Killcliff, which is where Jack, Dylan, Malena and all these
• 53:47
  other fighters go training Killcliff.
• 53:49
  There's it's out of Deer. It's like Deerfield.
• 53:51
  Or oh dude, I just thought Michael Chandler fought out of.
• 53:53
  Deer. Yeah, killed all of them.
• 53:54
  Fight out of kills. Yeah, he fights.
• 53:56
  He's really good friend of mine. Yeah.
• 53:57
  I think I'm going to see him this week and we're going to go
• 53:58
  swimming. This week, dude.
• 54:00
  OK, cool. That'll be an interview right
• 54:03
  there to grab. It dude, I'm not going to say
• 54:06
  anything but. I think you said that out later.
• 54:11
  We'll trade, we'll trade, we'll trade for a DEXA dude.
• 54:15
  So. Oh, man.
• 54:17
  So yeah. So anyway, I think that.
• 54:21
  So one of the things I noticed that when I started rolling was
• 54:24
  that I would roll. I would see what they would do
• 54:28
  to me. I'd ask them what they would do
• 54:30
  again slowly so I could understand what was happening.
• 54:32
  And how do I say what do I, what do I, what do I, what would you
• 54:35
  do if you're in my shoes? This whole.
• 54:36
  Time, right to get out of it, yeah.
• 54:37
  Or what, what, what are you doing when I'm doing this, that
• 54:41
  this is right or wrong? And now when I'm rolling after a
• 54:45
  month and you know, I mean, obviously it's a lifetime to go
• 54:48
  after a month, I'm just like I'm when I'm fighting, I'm not or
• 54:52
  when I'm rolling, I'm not rolling just blindly, just like,
• 54:55
  let's see what's happening. I know I have like, oh, I know
• 54:59
  what my arms, my arm, my arms are supposed to be tucked.
• 55:01
  I don't want to get into my arms.
• 55:02
  I know my neck, my chin is you're.
• 55:03
  Aware you're creating awareness. Correct.
• 55:05
  And and and I'm not flighting. I'm fighting like my like my I
• 55:09
  in the moment. The moment slows down and I say
• 55:12
  OK. Right, everybody, You're not
• 55:14
  flighting. You're not right?
• 55:15
  Panic. Scared.
• 55:16
  Correct. That's what I that that was my.
• 55:19
  That is my. For the heart racing super fast
• 55:21
  when you're at that moment that's my default that's that's
• 55:24
  but that's everybody's that's not doing the still the top
• 55:26
  fighters, you know in their highest level their heart rate,
• 55:30
  you know still skyrockets every now and then.
• 55:32
  It's it's normal because I asked my friend that he's like, yeah,
• 55:34
  it's still, you know, it just happens.
• 55:35
  It just happens. It's part of it.
• 55:37
  But you learn to know it's normal, right?
• 55:39
  Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 55:40
  It's like I'm feeling this way, the whole perspective, but I
• 55:43
  it's OK, but it's OK that I feel this way.
• 55:45
  Now. Let me just figure out my
• 55:48
  situation and then make a decision and act upon.
• 55:51
  And I remember at the time that I started, I was having another
• 55:55
  little bit of rough patch with work.
• 55:57
  And the way that I was approaching, sure, please.
• 55:59
  The way that I was approaching it also here, the way that I was
• 56:03
  approaching it, I wrote that earlier.
• 56:05
  The way that I approached it was is I lost my trade of thought.
• 56:10
  Now the way that I approached it is when I have an issue my
• 56:17
  issue, my response would be this is bad who can I go to rectify
• 56:22
  it? Who can I go to to rectify it
• 56:25
  not what can I do to fix the problem.
• 56:27
  And after I started training, I started thinking about things
• 56:31
  not as who can fix my problem for.
• 56:35
  Me. How can I?
• 56:35
  What can I do? Yes, to maneuver my way out of
• 56:38
  this? And I think that that's really
• 56:41
  what the ultimate value is, is that it gives you.
• 56:44
  Again, there's two things that are really important.
• 56:47
  There's discipline and there's autonomy and license and like
• 56:50
  the feeling. That actually brings the
• 56:51
  confidence, which is what we were absolutely we all all.
• 56:55
  Beginning all. The and I don't feel how
• 56:56
  confident you are. You are because everybody, Oh
• 56:58
  yeah, I'm super. There's still lapses and moments
• 57:02
  where we lack a certain confidence and we have to be
• 57:05
  like, oh, we got to bring it back.
• 57:06
  You know what I mean? Yeah, it's it's very normal.
• 57:09
  That's why priming is great in in all aspects.
• 57:11
  Timing is so yeah, so can you. Why don't you just explain
• 57:13
  priming just in case anyone doesn't know.
• 57:15
  What that is Priming. So priming is pretty much doing
• 57:18
  something before an activity or something just to get you ready
• 57:22
  for it. For example, a great way of
• 57:24
  priming is an ice bath. Interesting.
• 57:26
  Why to an ice bath? Why?
• 57:28
  Because when you jump into that ice bath, your whole body goes
• 57:32
  into shock. Your vagus nerve activates
• 57:35
  completely. What's your vagus nerve?
• 57:36
  What your vagus nerve is right here located in and it pretty
• 57:39
  much controls your your, your, all your hormones and your whole
• 57:43
  entire body. And it's activated or shut down
• 57:45
  when you happen. So, and it actually completely
• 57:48
  activates it. OK, yes.
• 57:50
  So when it activates it, you're it's like you're awake again.
• 57:53
  So when you come out of the the ice bath, you're extra awake.
• 57:56
  You're extra awake. So, yeah, interesting.
• 57:58
  So now you go sit at a meeting and you're going to kill that
• 58:01
  sales call because you're everything.
• 58:03
  You're thoughts, you're not guessing words, you're not
• 58:05
  missing, you know, moments and lapse of judgement in your
• 58:07
  memory because your brain is so fired up because you literally
• 58:11
  took it from zero to 100. You didn't jump in the warm
• 58:13
  water and then turn it cold. No, you jumped into freezing
• 58:15
  cold water and your body hung. Out in it, yeah.
• 58:18
  What the hell just happened? Not only mentally but physically
• 58:22
  inside what's happening? Think about it like a machine
• 58:25
  starts to pump in a bunch of like water.
• 58:26
  This It's trying to make you warm so you can freeze to death.
• 58:29
  So out of my son it starts working overtime to try to keep
• 58:32
  you warm so you don't freeze. So interesting.
• 58:34
  So internally, a bunch of stuff that we can't even describe
• 58:36
  what's actually happening inside of.
• 58:38
  Us, but it's making us way better.
• 58:39
  But it's making us way better. So that's a way of priming.
• 58:41
  Another way of priming is first thing in the morning, doing
• 58:44
  something is getting you properly in your mindset to
• 58:48
  tackle whatever they're after you're going to do.
• 58:51
  There's a way of doing things called habit stacking, which I
• 58:54
  read from a book called Atomic Habits.
• 58:58
  Atomic Habits. Thank you very much.
• 59:00
  Yes, yes, yes, stacking. And it's exactly this.
• 59:04
  Prime yourself first thing in the morning, then to do
• 59:06
  something that you needed, you know, let's say drop off the kid
• 59:09
  at school. And then from there put
• 59:11
  something after that activity that you normally wouldn't go
• 59:14
  do. But since you're already out and
• 59:16
  about, yeah, might as well go to the gym afterwards.
• 59:18
  Yeah. Don't go home.
• 59:20
  Yeah. No, no, no.
• 59:21
  So stack that habit on top of the other.
• 59:22
  So you're already taking your kids to school.
• 59:24
  That's no effort that you're going to take your kids to
• 59:26
  school because you're not. You're not.
• 59:27
  You're going to not stop taking your kids to school.
• 59:29
  You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 59:29
  So. So what?
• 59:30
  So combined responsibility with with your own kind of sense of
• 59:35
  going out there and doing your own thing.
• 59:36
  Right. So that's a way of priming to as
• 59:38
  well. You know you're getting ready
• 59:39
  for the next thing. So things don't, but we could
• 59:42
  be. Primed for different things too.
• 59:43
  Absolutely. I know that, for example, by the
• 59:45
  way, huge I'm hopefully I'm speaking, I'm meeting up with
• 59:48
  early early next week someone that specializes in porn
• 59:52
  addiction and and sexual health, right.
• 59:55
  Wow, porn addiction is a massive issue especially.
• 59:58
  Nowadays is. True.
• 1:00:00
  And more than before, right back in my day, we're back in my day,
• 1:00:03
  we had my, my friend's dad when we were little kids, a Playboy
• 1:00:08
  magazine that could steal from, you know, the, the guest
• 1:00:11
  bathroom or something. And, and it wasn't even like
• 1:00:13
  fully naked, you know what I mean?
• 1:00:18
  Now these kids are like, it's crazy.
• 1:00:20
  I don't even want to name it, you know what I mean?
• 1:00:22
  Disastrous what they're seeing out there.
• 1:00:23
  Right. But we're so, but we're prone to
• 1:00:25
  it because I know for myself even that especially when I was
• 1:00:27
  younger, but even till today, right?
• 1:00:30
  If you're scrolling on Instagram, you're scrolling on
• 1:00:32
  Twitter, something will prime you to dive in subconsciously,
• 1:00:37
  correct? Like.
• 1:00:38
  A bunch of people going to the gym nowadays.
• 1:00:40
  Why? Because everything, everybody
• 1:00:42
  with all those videos of the gym workout videos during.
• 1:00:45
  I'm you for whatever. When you go to Vegas, what's the
• 1:00:47
  first thing when you step off the plane in casino?
• 1:00:50
  Casino, first thing you see slots.
• 1:00:52
  First thing, win slots. 777. Get you ready, get you ready to
• 1:00:58
  gamble because we are going to get you in that mindset.
• 1:01:01
  You are going. To rhyming you correct, But if
• 1:01:04
  we can use this priming to our advantage, correct Or something
• 1:01:07
  positive? Right, so these are tools.
• 1:01:09
  Tools are either good or bad. And the way that you use them is
• 1:01:13
  going to make the is make all the difference in the world.
• 1:01:14
  So you, so you were bodybuilding and and and then you're too hard
• 1:01:20
  on yourself. You decide to stop.
• 1:01:21
  I got too, yeah, I got too obsessive compulsive just and
• 1:01:25
  this is. 2020. Yeah, this was before that.
• 1:01:28
  This was before when I stopped by building bodybuilding.
• 1:01:30
  It was a little bit before 2020. I.
• 1:01:32
  Want to see a picture of what you were looking like when you
• 1:01:34
  were bodybuilding? If I start scrolling now to find
• 1:01:36
  a picture. No, no, find it another time,
• 1:01:38
  send me another time. I want to see.
• 1:01:40
  I, I was big, big and, and not just big bulky, like I was
• 1:01:43
  ripped and I had a good physique.
• 1:01:45
  You can ask, you can ask. I had a good physique like I
• 1:01:47
  could have, I could have made it, you know, at least I have BB
• 1:01:49
  pro at the time do. You have the beard at the time.
• 1:01:51
  No, I didn't. I had a little bit of beard.
• 1:01:53
  I always had a little bit of beard, but not like this.
• 1:01:55
  This this is great by the way. This is when I started.
• 1:01:58
  This is 2020 to now and I'd never cut it after.
• 1:02:02
  You didn't. You didn't.
• 1:02:03
  Try a bit here and there, but for the most part it hasn't been
• 1:02:05
  cut. It looks, it looks great.
• 1:02:07
  It looks great. Yeah.
• 1:02:09
  Because you know, why I, I, there's certain people whose
• 1:02:13
  beards grow down and, you know, clean and people, certain
• 1:02:19
  people, my beard goes out like, almost like it's like poofy, you
• 1:02:25
  know, out instead of down and. Right.
• 1:02:27
  No, mine was terrible. Dude, I.
• 1:02:30
  Have to keep it like this because otherwise it's a mess.
• 1:02:32
  No at. First mine went out.
• 1:02:33
  Oh, did it, yeah. But after it's this is this is
• 1:02:36
  years of my beard. This is five years of beard like
• 1:02:39
  this crazy long time, you know. How attached you to your beard?
• 1:02:42
  Oh my, this is my whole identity, my whole if I, if I
• 1:02:45
  didn't have my beard, it was like, you know, I mean, I think
• 1:02:47
  you're off for my beard every day.
• 1:02:48
  Literally. Some people can't grow beard.
• 1:02:50
  Some people. Dude, you know I was 22.
• 1:02:52
  Emo has Vishalam and they don't. You lose all your hair, so you
• 1:02:55
  got to be thankful of you know what you have, you know?
• 1:02:58
  So you quit that and did you know, did you have a we at that
• 1:03:02
  point? Were you not sure what you do
• 1:03:03
  with your life? What are you going to do?
• 1:03:05
  Like, you know. I was always a trainer.
• 1:03:07
  I was always into fitness. I was always in that fitness
• 1:03:09
  world. I worked at every brand name.
• 1:03:12
  Jim, you can name me and I'll tell you I worked there.
• 1:03:14
  I worked at La Fitness. I worked at 24 Hour Fitness.
• 1:03:17
  I worked at You Fit Are. They good places.
• 1:03:20
  All good places. Yeah, they're the great places.
• 1:03:22
  I'm not down in them. They're they're the typical, you
• 1:03:25
  know, starting gym when you're a brand new trainer with a, you
• 1:03:29
  know, a certificate, you go to Lily Fitness, they hire.
• 1:03:32
  You get a rich mom that comes in, they want to see not.
• 1:03:34
  Even nightly fitness nowadays is not even the rich mom that comes
• 1:03:37
  in like now the people that that really want my brother goes
• 1:03:40
  there. They don't go train at these
• 1:03:41
  places and I'm not trying to down no problem.
• 1:03:43
  Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
• 1:03:44
  They they go try and find private gym studios like the one
• 1:03:47
  I have now. OK.
• 1:03:48
  I'll see if your own gym. Not my own gym.
• 1:03:50
  I, I share this space with another trainer, his name is Dan
• 1:03:53
  Palacios. He has kinetic training, the
• 1:03:56
  best kinetic training. Kinetic training is his brand
• 1:03:59
  that it's just, you know, your kinetic, your whole body is a
• 1:04:01
  kinetic chain. So it's pretty much like a full
• 1:04:04
  body training stuff. But that's the name that he went
• 1:04:06
  kinetic training to the kinetic training facility.
• 1:04:08
  That's his brand, that's his name, and he's been super
• 1:04:12
  helpful from the beginning to share the space with me and his
• 1:04:16
  equipment and everything. So I want to give him a big
• 1:04:18
  shout out to that. Awesome.
• 1:04:19
  Yeah. And that's where we've been for
• 1:04:21
  five years now. And so that's so.
• 1:04:23
  You started this five years ago. Yeah, we both did.
• 1:04:26
  When in this farm, in this outdoor location, it was very
• 1:04:30
  COVID. I'm riding my bike.
• 1:04:33
  Dan has his workout trailer set up in the grass in this farm on
• 1:04:38
  Davie by Western High School. And I ride my bike inside the
• 1:04:42
  gym. I inside the farm and I see
• 1:04:44
  workout equipment on the floor. I'm like, what is this?
• 1:04:46
  You know, so my gym was closed at the time because it was COVID
• 1:04:50
  and, and I was not working out. I was working out at home, you
• 1:04:55
  know, doing body weight, you know, stuff and like 25 LB
• 1:04:58
  dumbbells that I had in COVID and that's literally what I was
• 1:05:00
  living off. So Long story short, I meet Dan
• 1:05:05
  at this farm. He has his workout trailer.
• 1:05:08
  He's like, you're a trainer. I'm a trainer.
• 1:05:10
  He's like, oh, I'm like, oh, can I work out here?
• 1:05:12
  He's like, yeah, sure, you can work out here.
• 1:05:13
  Long as he was still training some of his clients.
• 1:05:16
  Long story short, I started training with him there with his
• 1:05:19
  workout trailer. The guy that owns the property,
• 1:05:21
  he's like, oh, you guys are pretty serious.
• 1:05:23
  I'm going to, you know, I'm going to build a structure back
• 1:05:25
  there. I'm going to turn, you know, you
• 1:05:26
  guys can use it back, you know, So we turn that into a gym now,
• 1:05:31
  Gym and outdoor. Gym.
• 1:05:33
  Really. Dan does affiliate marketing
• 1:05:35
  with different brands, so he's gotten a lot of different
• 1:05:38
  equipment that you don't see in regular gyms.
• 1:05:41
  OK, for example like what? Just different equipment that's
• 1:05:44
  not your typical. Like what?
• 1:05:46
  What is it? What's the what's what's he
• 1:05:48
  trying to accomplish with this new equipment?
• 1:05:50
  If someone. Just different modalities.
• 1:05:51
  It's just different tools to do like ABS different tools to you
• 1:05:54
  know, do chest presses, do overhead presses, just different
• 1:05:57
  things that you normally. Would have been feeling
• 1:05:58
  different. Is it that you got a different
• 1:06:00
  workout and that's more effective?
• 1:06:01
  Yeah, because you have 10 different grips to do pull ups,
• 1:06:04
  right. You have three different things
• 1:06:05
  to do this, you know, I mean just different that you're not
• 1:06:07
  going to find a Nelly fitness or a conventional gym, you know, so
• 1:06:10
  that's pretty cool. It's it's outdoors and that was
• 1:06:13
  a big thing because it was COVID, everything was shut down
• 1:06:16
  and this is a private property outdoors and it was not
• 1:06:20
  regulated by like, you know, the anybody to come and like shut
• 1:06:23
  you down because of COVID mask whatever.
• 1:06:26
  So we got away through all that for the only place that was.
• 1:06:28
  Open. Amazing.
• 1:06:29
  So you have a lot of people sign.
• 1:06:31
  Up. I had a lot of people sign up.
• 1:06:32
  So this brings me back to me saying, well, how we started
• 1:06:35
  this, Thank God for COVID, because if it wasn't for COVID,
• 1:06:38
  we wouldn't be in the gym where we're at today and I wouldn't
• 1:06:41
  have met Dan and I wouldn't have done everything.
• 1:06:43
  And it didn't just everything wouldn't have fell into place
• 1:06:46
  like it did, you know? So for some people, I heard that
• 1:06:50
  it was really bad. They lost family members and I'm
• 1:06:52
  sorry for that. COVID, you know it was COVID by.
• 1:06:54
  The way you lost friends, you lost.
• 1:06:56
  For a lot of people it was the best because they, you know, did
• 1:07:00
  the business that they always wanted to do when they couldn't
• 1:07:03
  do. And all of a sudden they, they
• 1:07:04
  made it happen. You know, they, they, they
• 1:07:06
  chased that entrepreneurship in the endeavour or whatever.
• 1:07:09
  So there was a lot of positive that came out of.
• 1:07:11
  I think so too, by the way. I think, I think it was a little
• 1:07:16
  bit of a glimpse into the future, like a short term
• 1:07:18
  glimpse into the future where we could see a world in which being
• 1:07:24
  present, like literally being in office is irrelevant.
• 1:07:27
  And that people could be productive on their own time in
• 1:07:30
  their own way. Or people could be a giant waste
• 1:07:33
  of space. And like you realize that they
• 1:07:36
  really do absolutely nothing like with their, with their
• 1:07:39
  time, with their job, with their, you know, with their
• 1:07:41
  responsibilities and that they aren't really necessary at all.
• 1:07:44
  And I think that like it goes one way or the other.
• 1:07:46
  Like people are either really, really awesome and become, you
• 1:07:50
  know, really entrepreneurial like you said, or.
• 1:07:52
  Or the opposite you're taking. Two meetings a day.
• 1:07:55
  We're joining the Zoom because you have to and your camera's.
• 1:07:57
  Off right and you're on your boxers, right?
• 1:08:00
  You know, boxers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:02
  Hang on. I'm going to take a quick
• 1:08:03
  bathroom break one second and we're back.
• 1:08:07
  Welcome back. Yes.
• 1:08:09
  So we're just talking about how we skipped over a bunch of
• 1:08:12
  stuff, but that's OK, that always happens.
• 1:08:14
  And then. Yeah, just because if I go in
• 1:08:15
  detail with every story about every part of them, you know by.
• 1:08:18
  The way we'll also do I'm sure we'll do another episode I I
• 1:08:20
  found that we. Could definitely do another one,
• 1:08:22
  you know, and if we want to go in specific, maybe if some of
• 1:08:26
  the audience wants to know a specific stuff, you know first.
• 1:08:29
  Of all, I want to know specific stuff in general, but I also
• 1:08:32
  noticed that I like getting group episodes together too,
• 1:08:35
  like 3 or 4 people. So you know what?
• 1:08:37
  We can actually bring my good friend.
• 1:08:41
  You met him, Jack. He goes to show with me.
• 1:08:45
  He walks with me. You've seen him when I'm
• 1:08:46
  glasses. Yeah, he goes on.
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  Window washing with art, right? Yes, yeah.
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  With Aaron, Yeah, yeah. That's right.
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  Yeah. Sweet, sweet kid.
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  He's your buddy. Is that not it here?
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  So yes, we're we're pretty much family so.
• 1:09:01
  You're pretty much family. Yeah, I see you guys hanging out
• 1:09:04
  together. All the time.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not related though.
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  Not blood, but we are. You're brothers.
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  We're pretty much brothers, yeah.
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  You're brothers. I wanted to ask you a couple of
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  things, your thoughts or opinions on a couple of things.
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  Israel does a similar process that what you did in terms of
• 1:09:30
  kids graduate high school is a mandatory draft.
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  Yes, that's why I love that Israel does that.
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  But Israel has to do that because if not, we wouldn't have
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  people to defend Israel because if anybody, you know what I
• 1:09:40
  mean? Yeah, if it was optional, you
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  think people would be no, right. So that's, I mean, yes, you do
• 1:09:45
  have the patriotic that yes, I'm going to die for Israel, but
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  there's a lot of people that wouldn't.
• 1:09:49
  Yeah, sure. And unfortunately it has to be
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  mandatory. So regardless if they do it for
• 1:09:53
  discipline or not discipline, if you do it because we got to
• 1:09:55
  protect Israel, no matter. What do you think?
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  It's better for kids to go to the Army 7, let's say 18 to 21
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  and then go to college or go to college after high school.
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  That's a good question. And then, and then, and then 21
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  to 24 do the army because. Let me pause Real.
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  Quick, Yeah, sure. This is a question because I
• 1:10:16
  could tell you that the the sooner that computer is
• 1:10:19
  programmed, the better. But I could also tell you look
• 1:10:22
  what happened to me when I got out, right?
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  That's very young. That's what I was asking.
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  And that computer, this pro unprogrammed real quick in the
• 1:10:30
  wrong environment because I still skipped the step of the
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  partying and all that part of the life that is.
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  So that's why I had to pause, because it's very.
• 1:10:38
  Important. So what do you think?
• 1:10:41
  It goes back to. Or do you think there's?
• 1:10:43
  Someone life purpose goes back to our life purpose.
• 1:10:46
  Do you think the people she wants to say I choose to go to
• 1:10:50
  the Army before or after college and like give them the choice to
• 1:10:53
  do one or the other? As long as you can sign it and
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  then you're actually going to sign it.
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  Correct. Correct.
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  Meaning you, you become. That here, you could do that
• 1:10:59
  here and become an officer, which is what I should have
• 1:11:02
  done. OK, can you explain how that
• 1:11:03
  works? My my cousin, he's an officer in
• 1:11:06
  the Navy and he actually flies F eighteens.
• 1:11:08
  Cool, really. Yeah, out of aircraft carriers,
• 1:11:10
  dude, he's the next person to. Hook up too.
• 1:11:13
  Yeah, yeah. A picture and everything.
• 1:11:14
  He's a beast. He's a beast.
• 1:11:15
  OK. So he went to the Naval Academy
• 1:11:20
  and then went to went into the service.
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  So when you go Naval Academy, you get a degree.
• 1:11:27
  You get a degree, Yeah. And what was his degree in your
• 1:11:29
  cousin I? Don't know if it was aeronautics
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  or something though, but OK, cool.
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  Yeah. The point is he.
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  Yeah. But he went to college first.
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  Thing he did, actually, he just got accepted.
• 1:11:38
  Top Gun. Get out of here.
• 1:11:40
  Yeah. What?
• 1:11:41
  Yeah. That's a real thing.
• 1:11:43
  Yeah, it's a real thing. It's not just a movie.
• 1:11:45
  It's not just a movie. Top Gun is a real thing.
• 1:11:47
  It's a real thing, but I'm not going to say anything else
• 1:11:48
  because everything else would be confidential but.
• 1:11:50
  OK, wait, what? What?
• 1:11:51
  What do they do? Can you talk about?
• 1:11:53
  You talk about it's literally the Top Gun of the Navy.
• 1:11:56
  It's they're the ones that are literally take carrying out
• 1:11:59
  those positions. They can't think about anything.
• 1:12:02
  Else, yeah, but I mean that's there's more.
• 1:12:04
  What do you. I really don't know.
• 1:12:06
  What do you think about confidentiality after being in
• 1:12:08
  the Army? Do you think it's bullshit or do
• 1:12:09
  you think that it's? I think there's certain there's
• 1:12:12
  there's some certain level of respect like this.
• 1:12:14
  Thank you. Certain level of respect, OK,
• 1:12:18
  the people that, oh, I got out and now I'm going to say
• 1:12:20
  everything because I think that's a way of treason.
• 1:12:23
  I think you'll have a moral responsibility, absolutely.
• 1:12:25
  What do you think of someone like Ed?
• 1:12:26
  Snowden Now if it's something that was that you saw that was
• 1:12:29
  bad going in there, right that that they're they're high still
• 1:12:32
  blowing right with that's different.
• 1:12:34
  That's different. Yeah, you think so?
• 1:12:36
  I don't know, I just still don't think I'm not.
• 1:12:39
  You know, Ed Snowden is, I'm sure.
• 1:12:41
  What do you mean? Ed Snowden.
• 1:12:43
  No, what it's. Not Ed Snowden is a guy that he
• 1:12:47
  works for the NSA and he found out that NSA was illegally
• 1:12:52
  spotting spying on American citizens.
• 1:12:54
  And so NSA, NSA is a national surveillance surveillance
• 1:12:59
  agency, Security Agency. You know Ed Snowden is Edward
• 1:13:03
  Snowden. And his names I.
• 1:13:06
  Mean dude, I'm going to send you.
• 1:13:07
  I'm going to send you some articles about him.
• 1:13:08
  He's on Rogan's podcast. Tell me about a a Hasidic
• 1:13:11
  rapper's name. And I mean, yeah, yeah, but.
• 1:13:13
  He but, but so but he he found out the government, that the
• 1:13:16
  government, the American government was illegal, was
• 1:13:18
  illegally spying on the citizens and he leaked that information
• 1:13:24
  to a couple of journalists. Was that on shot, Ryan?
• 1:13:26
  No, that was on shot. Right.
• 1:13:27
  No, he's on Rogan though. I think he was on Rogan twice.
• 1:13:29
  OK, yeah, dude. OK, got the years and and he's
• 1:13:34
  considered a quote UN quote traitor, right?
• 1:13:36
  Because he was giving out confidential information to
• 1:13:39
  journalists. After he got.
• 1:13:41
  But in the information that he was giving over was that the
• 1:13:45
  government was doing illegal things to its own people.
• 1:13:47
  And he ended up and and and he ended up having to run to I want
• 1:13:53
  to stick with Scott. Thank you.
• 1:13:54
  He ended up running to You have more, you have one.
• 1:14:00
  He ended up running to, I think Japan and Russia.
• 1:14:03
  And he lives in Russia full time now, but he wants to come back
• 1:14:05
  to the states, you know, but he, he quote, UN quote, betrayed the
• 1:14:11
  government because he found that the government was doing illegal
• 1:14:13
  things to the to the citizens. That's different.
• 1:14:17
  That's different if, you know, if because it's doing something
• 1:14:20
  bad to the citizen, then, you know, you're trying to
• 1:14:22
  uncomfort, like when you're just coming out and you're saying a
• 1:14:24
  bunch of things that you shouldn't be saying about, you
• 1:14:26
  know, maybe missions that were top secret that, you know, you
• 1:14:30
  shouldn't be saying. Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 1:14:31
  You went in there and you did something that you shouldn't
• 1:14:33
  have done. Yeah.
• 1:14:34
  I showed my high school class the movie Argo.
• 1:14:36
  You ever watched that movie? I think so.
• 1:14:38
  Now Argo is who's the guy that's always with Matt Damon, Ben
• 1:14:41
  Affleck and Ben Affleck plays. It's based, it's based on a true
• 1:14:45
  story from 1980 when when the American embassy was taking the
• 1:14:49
  people in the in the embassy were taking hostage and Iran.
• 1:14:52
  Yes, yes, yes, yes. And the CIA had to come in and,
• 1:14:55
  and, and there were six people that that escaped embassy and
• 1:14:59
  were living in, in Iran, you know, undercover and the, and
• 1:15:02
  the CIA had to come in and get them out.
• 1:15:03
  Right. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:04
  And the end of the movie was you won an award.
• 1:15:07
  Congratulations. Everything is confidential.
• 1:15:09
  No one's a lot to know about what you did, you know?
• 1:15:11
  And and he's like, so you give me your awards, take away the
• 1:15:14
  award. He's like, if you think we do
• 1:15:16
  our jobs for awards, no, you're not in the right industry.
• 1:15:18
  You know that you're choosing the wrong job.
• 1:15:21
  But I, I, I think I tend to agree with you.
• 1:15:24
  I think I tend to agree that giving away information just for
• 1:15:29
  the sake of giving away information is stupid.
• 1:15:33
  Very. But when you got whistleblowers
• 1:15:35
  for shit like Epstein and you know, you got, you got stuff
• 1:15:39
  like the government spying on people and stuff like that, you
• 1:15:42
  know, like that's a different level of whistleblowing that I
• 1:15:45
  don't think. The government, of course, has
• 1:15:47
  its own little agenda and has its own thing.
• 1:15:49
  And when we say the government, we're.
• 1:15:50
  Talking about this group of like.
• 1:15:52
  But there's there's an illegally and there is something
• 1:15:55
  underground and believe it or not, you want to say I'm lying
• 1:15:58
  there. There's things that do exist,
• 1:16:01
  and. I think the question that people
• 1:16:03
  generally have is to what extent it exists and to how and to how
• 1:16:06
  much does it have, correct? Like is it a bunch of like, I
• 1:16:10
  think the biggest concern is that people tend to think of
• 1:16:13
  these things. Is there a bunch of evil people
• 1:16:14
  like that are bald and like in a lair, like, you know, like, oh,
• 1:16:17
  what are you going to do to like kill human?
• 1:16:19
  People. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:20
  Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
• 1:16:24
  So that's and then so, so do you think that the draft, what do
• 1:16:30
  you think? What would you think of America
• 1:16:31
  Had a mentor? A draft?
• 1:16:33
  I would love it. You'd love it.
• 1:16:34
  People would hate me for saying this.
• 1:16:36
  I would love it. By the way, I.
• 1:16:38
  Hope it does. I hope it happens so everybody
• 1:16:40
  can literally just harden up. Everybody's too soft.
• 1:16:43
  This new generation, so soft, so, so soft.
• 1:16:47
  People need to harden up. These the youth, all the youth,
• 1:16:51
  they want everything yesterday, no discipline, no nothing.
• 1:16:54
  And literally just I think it should be mandatory.
• 1:16:57
  And then that way it'll also make people more patriotic of
• 1:17:01
  their country of what they live. This self hating American thing.
• 1:17:04
  Like you see all the time, like burning flags doing this all
• 1:17:08
  this like, why are you here then if you're, if you're doing all
• 1:17:11
  this stuff like get out just yeah, it's I can easily buy your
• 1:17:14
  ticket right now if it sucks so bad.
• 1:17:17
  So how about you, you know, build some some love and
• 1:17:20
  patriotism through the hardship of the people that fought their
• 1:17:24
  lives for this country have gone through.
• 1:17:28
  Then then maybe they would have some respect for this country.
• 1:17:31
  So there's two responses I have to that.
• 1:17:34
  One of them is positive and one of them is negative, right?
• 1:17:37
  Because on one hand, I agree with you.
• 1:17:40
  On one hand, I think that it would be very, I think that
• 1:17:43
  people take things for granted that are easy to take for
• 1:17:46
  granted. And I think that having to work
• 1:17:48
  for something creates takes away from that sense of just taking
• 1:17:52
  it as you know, for face value and just assuming that that's
• 1:17:55
  what it is and that it's actually built on the actual
• 1:17:59
  hard work of a lot of people, right?
• 1:18:01
  On the other hand, I also think that just because you work hard
• 1:18:11
  and you're sacrificing for your country doesn't necessarily make
• 1:18:15
  you right about everything. And I think that people like to
• 1:18:17
  play that card. We're like, oh, you know, I for
• 1:18:19
  example, I had a teacher. This is obviously a totally
• 1:18:23
  different example, but I think you could, we'll be able to draw
• 1:18:25
  the parallels. I did.
• 1:18:26
  You know, there's a big problem in the Modern Orthodox Jewish
• 1:18:29
  community where the Mon Orthodoxy typically only lasts
• 1:18:34
  about a generation. I went to, I went to Yeshiva
• 1:18:36
  high school. Yeah.
• 1:18:37
  And I went to Yeshiva in Israel, went to Binghamton, Upstate New
• 1:18:40
  York College and I noticed that my high school class where it's
• 1:18:44
  private tuition, 25,000 to $30,000 a year per kid, right.
• 1:18:49
  And some of my friends had four or five, you know, siblings,
• 1:18:52
  yeah, 6 and yeah, yeah, you know, and, and, and the parents
• 1:18:55
  had to had to pay $150,000 of just tuition.
• 1:18:57
  Before you talk about the mortgage, before you talk about
• 1:18:59
  taxes, post your. Food.
• 1:19:01
  Anything like that, right. And, and, you know, and, and the
• 1:19:05
  teachers in the, in this Jewish world make fifty $60,000.
• 1:19:09
  And I noticed that in my class of about 160 kids when I was
• 1:19:13
  graduating that were, you know, presumably from religious
• 1:19:15
  families, I'd say about 80% were religious families, presumably
• 1:19:24
  about, I would say by the time we about, you know, three years
• 1:19:27
  out of out of high school, maybe 7, I'd say maybe 50% of the
• 1:19:31
  class was not observant anymore, which I think is indicative of
• 1:19:36
  the education, right? Meaning if you were taught the
• 1:19:39
  right things, if you wait, wait. Wait, so this was what grade to
• 1:19:42
  what grade this? 9th to 12th grade is.
• 1:19:44
  High to grade to. 12th, right? By the time you graduated,
• 1:19:48
  you're 1718 years old. By the time you're 21, I would
• 1:19:52
  say over 50% of the grade is no longer right, of 160 kids,
• 1:19:56
  right? And I was pointing that out to a
• 1:19:58
  teacher of mine that I had after I'd graduated, when I wanted to
• 1:20:02
  talk to you about how I want, why I wanted to go into
• 1:20:03
  education. And I and I said that something
• 1:20:07
  has to change about the education system.
• 1:20:09
  That obviously kids don't feel like they're getting the proper
• 1:20:12
  education and that that's why it's not, it's not giving them
• 1:20:16
  the proper foundation. It's inspiring enough, right?
• 1:20:18
  Right. It's inspiring enough, so I'm
• 1:20:20
  not going to do it right. So his response to me was, hey,
• 1:20:24
  man, you know, obviously on those words, hey, man, you know,
• 1:20:29
  you don't know what it's like working, you know?
• 1:20:35
  Yeah, working X amount of hours a week, getting paid X amount of
• 1:20:39
  dollars, no appreciation, everyone stepping on you and no
• 1:20:43
  one gives a shit. And you know, obviously none of
• 1:20:46
  this is verbatim, but this is general gist of what he's saying
• 1:20:47
  to me. And he goes and you don't have a
• 1:20:49
  right to criticize it because you're not doing the hard.
• 1:20:52
  Work. That's what I'm doing like that.
• 1:20:54
  He told me in not in a. Bad way.
• 1:20:56
  He told me in a much, in a much kinder way, but that's what he
• 1:20:59
  said, right? He said you don't have the right
• 1:21:01
  to criticize me because you're not making the sacrifice I'm
• 1:21:04
  making and you and you're not doing what I'm doing, so you
• 1:21:06
  can't comment on it. And I'm like, but I'm one of the
• 1:21:09
  recipients. I'm in the system, right?
• 1:21:12
  Like I, I, I'm, I'm one of the people that I could have gone
• 1:21:16
  either way and I got lucky that, you know, didn't go the right
• 1:21:19
  way. I did go the right way.
• 1:21:20
  I'm lucky I had right parents would support the right
• 1:21:22
  community, the right whatever. But it very easily could have
• 1:21:25
  gone 5050. It's still, you know, I mean,
• 1:21:26
  you never know, God forbid, you know, whatever.
• 1:21:28
  Yeah, a lot of times parents send their kids there hoping
• 1:21:32
  that the school's gonna make them the religious correct that
• 1:21:35
  that son that they want to have correct.
• 1:21:37
  And that's a big problem, too. That's a huge.
• 1:21:39
  Problem happy you said that, dude.
• 1:21:41
  I mean, how'd you how'd you realize that?
• 1:21:43
  When did you? Because everything starts from
• 1:21:46
  home. And you, you want your kid to be
• 1:21:49
  this, this big ribane, you know what I mean?
• 1:21:53
  And you yourself are not even 10% of that.
• 1:21:57
  So how do you expect your son to follow in your footsteps?
• 1:22:01
  And maybe you are this religious man, but maybe your approach to
• 1:22:05
  it is not making it in a way that he feels.
• 1:22:08
  So the so that's so that's exactly the comparison.
• 1:22:11
  I'm going to say, though, in response to your into your
• 1:22:15
  argument that everyone has to go to that, that everyone should go
• 1:22:17
  to the army or the people that don't go to the Army don't
• 1:22:18
  appreciate it. I think that you don't
• 1:22:20
  necessarily have like, there's still the value, like someone
• 1:22:24
  could still love America, still love the country.
• 1:22:27
  Without having to go right without.
• 1:22:28
  Having to do that and by the way, I don't like, I think that
• 1:22:32
  the weights that they carry are just different weights.
• 1:22:34
  I don't think that either 1 is more valuable than the next
• 1:22:38
  because they have to both provide perspective.
• 1:22:40
  I think one thing, for example, that I've really felt very
• 1:22:44
  strongly recently, right, is with this Israel Palestine, with
• 1:22:48
  Israel Gaza war, right, where obviously I've been, I've never
• 1:22:52
  not been on Israel's side my entire life, you know, of
• 1:22:54
  course. And then I've listened to this.
• 1:22:57
  I've listened to the voices and the people that have said like
• 1:23:01
  Israel has made a point and a lot of innocent people are dying
• 1:23:04
  at this point. And I will say it's really,
• 1:23:07
  really terrible that a lot of a lot of innocent people.
• 1:23:11
  I think it's not finished yet. And yes, a lot of finished and a
• 1:23:14
  lot of people have died, but we're not done.
• 1:23:17
  And and until the Hamas and all the people that want to be
• 1:23:21
  against us for for us being Jews, then we're going to
• 1:23:25
  continue to push back, right, Because if we don't push back,
• 1:23:28
  the difference is if we don't push back, we will get
• 1:23:32
  completely, you know, and that not happen has for Shalom.
• 1:23:35
  Of course that would not happen, because the sham will not let
• 1:23:37
  that happen. Right.
• 1:23:37
  I don't think so. That will never happen.
• 1:23:39
  But I think. That they're saying that it
• 1:23:40
  just, that's why I think it's, it's important.
• 1:23:43
  You know what I mean? It is important.
• 1:23:44
  I don't know. I think, I think it's important.
• 1:23:46
  I think that I think it's important to, to, I think it's
• 1:23:49
  the point that Hamas has gone. I think that they are the worst
• 1:23:53
  thing for everyone. I think that do you know that
• 1:23:57
  the, that the Palestinians and the Hevron Jewish community were
• 1:24:02
  extremely close for hundreds and hundreds of years, that they
• 1:24:07
  were like brothers to one another until like the mid 1920s
• 1:24:11
  and 30s. But like, yeah.
• 1:24:13
  And they were like very, very, very close, you know.
• 1:24:16
  And what happened was everyone props each other up.
• 1:24:19
  They did business together, they worked together.
• 1:24:22
  They, they went into investments together.
• 1:24:23
  They, they, they would support one another.
• 1:24:25
  They were living on the same St. as each other and they got along
• 1:24:28
  beautifully. Which which is how it used to be
• 1:24:30
  back. Right, right.
• 1:24:31
  I think that. Arabs and Jews lives together
• 1:24:33
  all the time, yeah. Yeah, by the way, my, my, and
• 1:24:35
  you know, my grandmother is my grandmother's from Yemen, My
• 1:24:37
  grandma, my, my, my, my dad started.
• 1:24:39
  The family Yemen. We're talking about the Hamas,
• 1:24:41
  right? Right.
• 1:24:41
  Exactly, exactly. That's the point.
• 1:24:43
  People get it. Twisted people, people do get it
• 1:24:45
  twisted. And because there's very little,
• 1:24:49
  there's very little discernment, there's very little nuance when
• 1:24:52
  it comes to this conversation, right?
• 1:24:55
  Unfortunately, I think, but I think that the point is that,
• 1:25:01
  you know, like I, as a Orthodox Jew that loves Israel, have
• 1:25:04
  lived, I've lived there for a year and a half.
• 1:25:06
  I've visited over over 1520 times in my life.
• 1:25:10
  You know, like I love the place. I'm going back in a month, you
• 1:25:13
  know, like I love the place. You know, I have one perspective
• 1:25:17
  as someone that's on the inside and then there's someone on the
• 1:25:20
  outside, right Has does not have my.
• 1:25:23
  Objective never been, by the way, correct.
• 1:25:26
  Does not know, and he's only observed right?
• 1:25:27
  Because you can only sometimes. But no one should not, you
• 1:25:32
  should not talk about Israel if you've never.
• 1:25:34
  Been so here's my argument against that.
• 1:25:36
  Sometimes you need to. Sometimes when you're in the
• 1:25:39
  inside, you can't see things the way that someone.
• 1:25:42
  Else because you're biased, let's say.
• 1:25:44
  Not even biased, let's say this right your own life.
• 1:25:47
  How many times did you give your friends advice that it's harder
• 1:25:50
  for you to follow than it is to give your friends advice?
• 1:25:52
  All the time. Because it's not your life,
• 1:25:53
  right? It's not you.
• 1:25:54
  Oh, you show a. Lot of place exactly.
• 1:25:56
  So there's and there are a lot of times where you rightfully
• 1:25:59
  can say, hey, man, I understand what you're saying, but you're
• 1:26:02
  not living my life. You're not considering all the
• 1:26:03
  aspects that are important, right.
• 1:26:05
  And then there are times where like your friends, even though
• 1:26:07
  he may not realize it is actually right, it's actually
• 1:26:09
  right. And you're like, even though you
• 1:26:12
  don't have a quote, UN quote right to say that.
• 1:26:14
  That's a good point. And like, I'd be an idiot if I
• 1:26:16
  didn't listen to you too, you know?
• 1:26:18
  So I think that what I'm trying to say is that there's a value
• 1:26:24
  to both. It doesn't mean that everything
• 1:26:27
  that either side says is 100% correct.
• 1:26:30
  But I think that there's always a little bit of value to being
• 1:26:33
  on the inside. And there's a lot of, and
• 1:26:34
  there's a little bit of value to being on the outside.
• 1:26:36
  And then the people should collaborate, right?
• 1:26:38
  You should say, like, you know, my mom will tell me, my wife
• 1:26:41
  will tell me when I'm working too hard.
• 1:26:43
  I'm beating myself up and I'm getting sick.
• 1:26:44
  And they're like, stop, you have to rest.
• 1:26:48
  They're not in my head about why I'm working hard.
• 1:26:50
  They're not. They don't know what the anxiety
• 1:26:52
  I feel about paying a mortgage and for my consideration and
• 1:26:55
  paying for bills. They don't know what that's
• 1:26:56
  like. But that doesn't mean that
• 1:26:58
  they're wrong either. You know, it's always say, oh,
• 1:27:01
  wait a minute. They're seeing it from another
• 1:27:02
  point of view. Correct.
• 1:27:03
  So, so, so even though, yeah, so I can't see it from their shoes
• 1:27:07
  and they can't see it from my shoes.
• 1:27:08
  But there is one like objective path where everything does line
• 1:27:11
  up. And that is, I'm working too
• 1:27:13
  hard. I need to take a break.
• 1:27:15
  You know, there is one path between a patriot that, that,
• 1:27:18
  that, that goes to the army and dedicates their life to the
• 1:27:21
  service and lays their life on the line for the country.
• 1:27:24
  And then the person that goes to university, that loves their
• 1:27:26
  country, that never live their life on the line but says, like,
• 1:27:30
  we, I think in the value of the true American spirit, we could
• 1:27:34
  do better. And we, you know, we, we, you
• 1:27:35
  know, we want American values or better values than this.
• 1:27:39
  And they're both looking at it from, again, from the inside and
• 1:27:42
  from the outside, right? But they could both have.
• 1:27:44
  That I think where they have that exactly.
• 1:27:45
  Yeah, Yeah, I get. I get what you mean.
• 1:27:47
  So I think that, you know, that's, that's a long wind,
• 1:27:49
  that's a long winded way. But I think that that I think
• 1:27:51
  that that point is really important.
• 1:27:52
  I don't think we have enough of that.
• 1:27:54
  I think because it's hard. It's really unpleasant.
• 1:27:56
  It's really difficult. Yeah, it's uncomfortable and
• 1:27:58
  it's hard, you know, especially like even with that personal
• 1:28:00
  thing with my, you know, where I'm working too hard, where I'll
• 1:28:02
  call my mom and my mom will hear my voice when I speak to her for
• 1:28:05
  a minute. If I answer the phone, I can say
• 1:28:07
  hello, like it's a long day, huh?
• 1:28:10
  And then, you know, there's times where I say hello, just
• 1:28:11
  think, oh, with that, you know, tell me what you tell me what
• 1:28:13
  you've done. Like, so you can just tell from
• 1:28:14
  that one word, you know, like what, what things are like, you
• 1:28:17
  know, but, but she's still on the outside.
• 1:28:19
  And so I, I give a lot of so, so a lot of times I have to force
• 1:28:23
  myself to like listen and say, sometimes when you're caught up
• 1:28:26
  in something, it's hard to see things clearly and let someone
• 1:28:30
  else from the outside come. In and tell.
• 1:28:31
  You what? It's like, Yeah, dude, I had
• 1:28:34
  some of the most painful and difficult moments, but the most
• 1:28:38
  valuable moments in my life came from where I had to force myself
• 1:28:42
  to make a decision from the outside perspective and not from
• 1:28:45
  the yeah, you have to. Would you break up with someone
• 1:28:47
  if it's in a bad relationship or do you have a job that you don't
• 1:28:50
  like? Or if you're if those logical
• 1:28:52
  decisions, these things, Yeah, where you can logicize just.
• 1:28:55
  Because if you use your emotions and you'll get stuck in it
• 1:28:59
  because your emotions will leave you in that.
• 1:29:01
  Oh, I this. Oh, but I missed that person.
• 1:29:03
  Oh, but I, you know, yeah. You need to step outside right?
• 1:29:06
  Then you step. Outside and you think logically.
• 1:29:08
  What would I tell, what would I tell my friend if I, if I was
• 1:29:11
  sitting across from you and you said to me, hey, I have this
• 1:29:13
  situation with my job, with my girlfriend, with my kids, and
• 1:29:17
  then I'll give you advice. Am I following that advice that
• 1:29:20
  I'll give you the answer's no. You got to be like what not man,
• 1:29:24
  what's going on? Are you are you not being honest
• 1:29:27
  with yourself? You know, that's really where
• 1:29:29
  the. And that's why it's like, you
• 1:29:31
  know, being a trainer, it's, it's important to, you know,
• 1:29:33
  practice. How many people do you train?
• 1:29:34
  How many people do you train at a time?
• 1:29:36
  At a time 1 ideally, sometimes 3 or 4 depending if the group
• 1:29:40
  session. I used to do the big group
• 1:29:41
  sessions in a gym called Fight Club, like the movie Fight Club
• 1:29:45
  back in in 20/20/19 before COVID hit.
• 1:29:49
  That's where the gym where I was at.
• 1:29:51
  Yeah, this Fight Club gym. It was so cool.
• 1:29:53
  What was the Lexing gym? Yeah, it was the old, like
• 1:29:56
  Raggedy, you know what I mean? Like like warehouse.
• 1:29:59
  What's? So cool.
• 1:30:01
  Yeah, with a big boxing ring in the middle.
• 1:30:03
  You know, you know, to throw a punch.
• 1:30:04
  Can you throw a punch? Yeah.
• 1:30:05
  Yeah, I could do my combinations.
• 1:30:06
  I would do boxing classes and everything.
• 1:30:08
  It was we had like 80 punching bags, heavy bags and I and I
• 1:30:12
  would be the one teaching the class with like a microphone and
• 1:30:14
  everything. Throw it.
• 1:30:15
  All right, 1236, you know, different combination.
• 1:30:17
  Have you got a fight before? I know I haven't like, fought,
• 1:30:19
  fought like. Have you gotten punched in the
• 1:30:21
  face before? But I have gotten punched in the
• 1:30:22
  face. I've punched in the face, so I.
• 1:30:24
  Like, can you tell me about either one of them?
• 1:30:25
  It was like getting punched. It was like punching someone in
• 1:30:28
  the face, getting. Punched.
• 1:30:29
  It was a big, you know, fight that broke out.
• 1:30:31
  Everybody started swinging and of course you got to
• 1:30:33
  participate. You jump in and and when someone
• 1:30:37
  hits you, do you feel it hit you in your cheek?
• 1:30:39
  It hit you in your ear? In your.
• 1:30:41
  Cheek stomach, because they just started it started happening
• 1:30:44
  really just and then you just start fighting back and next
• 1:30:47
  thing you know you. Feel anything or is the no you?
• 1:30:49
  Don't feel it. First couple blows.
• 1:30:51
  No, the first one you do feel, but after that first, that's it.
• 1:30:54
  That's it. Because you just turn into a
• 1:30:56
  gorilla, really. All one time I tell people I do
• 1:30:59
  regret one moment that it was in South Beach and I had a
• 1:31:03
  girlfriend at the time and she decided to to ask some guy, oh,
• 1:31:10
  can you take a picture of me? The guy's like what?
• 1:31:14
  I look like a photographer. So then she was the type that
• 1:31:18
  wasn't the best for me, obviously.
• 1:31:20
  And she was a bad influence. And she's like, oh, this guy.
• 1:31:24
  Like she hyped the situation worse than it was.
• 1:31:26
  OK, Can you believe this guy? He said, oh, I'm not a
• 1:31:28
  photographer. This.
• 1:31:31
  And then they, like, he insulted me.
• 1:31:32
  Like he just said, hey, I'm not taking the picture, you know,
• 1:31:34
  whatever, you know? Yeah.
• 1:31:36
  So I go, you know. Go away, you got all fired up.
• 1:31:39
  And then he's like when he throws a glass of water on the
• 1:31:45
  girl's face and then I go and start punching.
• 1:31:48
  No way. No.
• 1:31:50
  Kids drops, I run out. They got bouncers chasing me.
• 1:31:54
  What is it? What does it take when you, when
• 1:31:56
  you're throwing that first punch?
• 1:31:57
  Is your mind blank? Are you thinking?
• 1:32:00
  No, I knew. Exactly what I was doing and I
• 1:32:02
  was aiming exactly really, because I was pissed at the
• 1:32:05
  time, but because, you know, people can get you into the
• 1:32:08
  wrong space when you're young and you're tend to be in these
• 1:32:11
  relationships and girls tend to do that when you're in here in
• 1:32:14
  19/20/21, you know, seriously, they, they just see, oh, let me
• 1:32:18
  see how tough he, how much he'll fight for me.
• 1:32:20
  You know what I mean? It's that, you know, whatever.
• 1:32:22
  Wow. So I think I, and I fell for it
• 1:32:24
  and I ended up, you know, but it could have been, it could ended
• 1:32:27
  up worse, could ended up getting arrested.
• 1:32:28
  It could ended up, you know, hurting that kid really bad, you
• 1:32:31
  know, who knows, You know, did. It hurt your hand to punch him.
• 1:32:33
  No, I didn't feel anything later.
• 1:32:35
  I just. Really I.
• 1:32:36
  Don't know. I had bouncers chasing me and
• 1:32:38
  then the bouncers I'm after I ^2 up to one of the bouncers after.
• 1:32:41
  I ran like 10 blocks in South Beach and then one guy was in
• 1:32:45
  the parking lot that. Far I feel like they just give
• 1:32:47
  up and like. Because the so that's what I'm
• 1:32:49
  like, why are you still chasing me?
• 1:32:51
  And then a guy in the parking lot's like, he can't touch you.
• 1:32:53
  He's just a bouncer. He started recording.
• 1:32:55
  And then I'm like, why are you saying he's like, because the
• 1:32:57
  guy that you punch, he's unconscious and we're going to
• 1:32:59
  have to answer to the police when they get there.
• 1:33:01
  No like what? The fuck just happened?
• 1:33:04
  Wow. So I'm running.
• 1:33:06
  I don't have my stuff. I don't have anything.
• 1:33:08
  The people that I was with left and stayed in the club.
• 1:33:11
  I remembered where I parked the car and I ran to the to the
• 1:33:14
  parking garage and I literally waited by the car.
• 1:33:17
  And then eventually the people I was with went to the car and I
• 1:33:19
  was able to get in the car. Wow.
• 1:33:21
  But just crazy stuff that was through the gap of those seven
• 1:33:24
  years of the crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:33:26
  That's that's one of those moments, Yeah.
• 1:33:29
  Yeah, I've never had that, dude. I've never had anything like
• 1:33:32
  that, you know? I do have.
• 1:33:34
  I got stabbed one time in the back of my hamstring.
• 1:33:37
  What? Yeah, when I was in the Navy, in
• 1:33:39
  a bar fight, actually. What not stabbed?
• 1:33:41
  Yes, yes. But that, that was stupid.
• 1:33:44
  It wasn't even my fight. Again, I go in, everybody starts
• 1:33:48
  swinging. You're in a bar.
• 1:33:49
  You're in a bar in the Navy. In Florida, somebody.
• 1:33:52
  Somebody's gets up, one of the cups falls on the floor and then
• 1:33:57
  I hear it and I'm like, oh, something's about to go down
• 1:33:59
  over there when I see it's one of my buddies.
• 1:34:00
  He's one of my, we have like different brack mates in the
• 1:34:03
  Navy. There's four people inside of
• 1:34:05
  the the room that you share and then you have two people per
• 1:34:08
  rack. So he's one of the the people
• 1:34:10
  that share their rack in the same room.
• 1:34:12
  And I see him and he's going going back and forth with some.
• 1:34:15
  So we're the we're the Navy guys.
• 1:34:16
  We called normal people civilians.
• 1:34:19
  Yeah. He's going back and forth to the
• 1:34:20
  civilian normal that would have caused.
• 1:34:22
  It happened a lot. Yeah.
• 1:34:23
  It all happens all the time. And then next thing you know,
• 1:34:25
  they start swinging. And then I go over there and
• 1:34:27
  then I start going. And it turned out that those
• 1:34:30
  guys were involved with like some like, you know, gang or
• 1:34:32
  whatever, and some guy came out with a knife and stabbed the get
• 1:34:37
  out of here right there. The scar.
• 1:34:39
  I still have light. I'll show you.
• 1:34:42
  I literally have a literally a freaking scar in my hamstring.
• 1:34:47
  What was your reaction? What?
• 1:34:49
  Happened even when my reaction I I felt something go in but it
• 1:34:53
  was in and out quick. It was.
• 1:34:54
  Oh, he pulled in and pulled out. Yes, but it wasn't even with a
• 1:34:57
  knife, it was with a with a beer Bob because he started.
• 1:35:00
  With the beer. Yeah, because he started, he
• 1:35:02
  grabbed the beer, Bob. He broke it.
• 1:35:04
  Oh, and then he went under with the, with the, you know, when
• 1:35:06
  you break up, you know, under with the, with the.
• 1:35:10
  Holy crap. And then pop that not only did I
• 1:35:13
  that you got the whole leg was bleeding the next day the the
• 1:35:17
  command found out. So when the command finds out,
• 1:35:21
  then you go Captain's mask, the whole thing.
• 1:35:23
  You got to go in front of the the whole thing, explain what
• 1:35:26
  happened, and I even got in trouble.
• 1:35:28
  You got in trouble. Yeah, because when they find out
• 1:35:30
  what happens off base, then they realize, you know, hey, we're
• 1:35:34
  going to do something about it and they punish you.
• 1:35:35
  So you get, you know, kind of slap on the wrist, but you get a
• 1:35:41
  half month's pay times 2 and it just goes downhill from there.
• 1:35:44
  What is it? Half month's pay.
• 1:35:45
  Yeah, you they take away your pay really for like 2 months.
• 1:35:49
  They just not, not your full pay.
• 1:35:51
  So half of it. So let's say you make 3 grand a
• 1:35:53
  month, they pay you 1500 for two months.
• 1:35:56
  That's terrible. Your punishment.
• 1:35:57
  That's terrible. But how you know how you going
• 1:35:59
  to live on that? You're living on.
• 1:36:01
  I mean, you live on base. Oh, you live on base, you know.
• 1:36:04
  I mean, you go to, you go to the cafeteria, which is called the
• 1:36:06
  galley, you know? Wow, you think you think
• 1:36:10
  everyone should do the army? I think.
• 1:36:13
  Every man should do the army. Like you, like you said, not
• 1:36:15
  everybody needs it. There's a lot of people that
• 1:36:17
  don't, that didn't go to it, that are patriotic, that are
• 1:36:21
  smart, that have little lot, but there's there's a lot that
• 1:36:23
  don't. So what I'm saying with
• 1:36:26
  everybody should go is that since you can't pick out the
• 1:36:28
  ones that already don't, they already do, you might as well
• 1:36:31
  just make everybody. Yeah, just you know what I mean.
• 1:36:33
  The other thing I. Think would also be great is,
• 1:36:35
  you know, Israel. Maybe not make it 4 years, but
• 1:36:37
  make it 2. Yeah, or like Shiro, me, you
• 1:36:41
  know that is. What is that?
• 1:36:42
  Shiro me is is what a lot of Israelis do instead of Army
• 1:36:46
  Service, where it's community service.
• 1:36:49
  So it's teaching, it's working in orphanages, orphanages, it's
• 1:36:53
  working, you know, it's working with students that are that,
• 1:36:56
  that, that are that are that are new to the country and teaching
• 1:36:59
  them the language and what you. I think what I think one of the
• 1:37:04
  part of the argument is that when you just go from like high
• 1:37:08
  school to college and you don't really and you go to your 22
• 1:37:12
  years old without any kind of real experience with what how
• 1:37:15
  the world actually works. It's not in your best benefit,
• 1:37:18
  no. And even if you took a year or
• 1:37:20
  two in between that, those two points in between 18 and 23 or
• 1:37:26
  22 and you took and you took a year and you worked and you
• 1:37:30
  spent the year in Indiana or Denver or Michigan.
• 1:37:34
  Right, right. Just, you know.
• 1:37:35
  Florida, yeah. And you're, and you're doing
• 1:37:37
  community service, you're getting paid and you're getting,
• 1:37:39
  you know, credits you're getting whatever it is.
• 1:37:41
  You're either getting paid, you're getting credits, you're
• 1:37:42
  getting something for your degree, and you're learning
• 1:37:45
  about what it's like to be a teacher in the Bronx.
• 1:37:48
  You're learning what it's like to work in an orphanage in Ohio
• 1:37:52
  and see what it's like in these communities and that could
• 1:37:55
  really change peoples lives. For sure.
• 1:38:00
  All right, dude. Well, let's I think it was.
• 1:38:02
  Audible. Yeah, yeah, let's call him
• 1:38:04
  because I'm, I got to go home. Dude, it's so much fun having
• 1:38:07
  you here man. Hopefully we'll do this again.
• 1:38:09
  6:30 in the morning I got to get up.
• 1:38:10
  Hopefully, yeah, hopefully we'll do this again.
• 1:38:12
  Maybe we'll do a Group A Group 1 next time.
• 1:38:14
  Yeah, a little Group One actually.
• 1:38:16
  It'll be a lot of fun. All right, dude, thank you so
• 1:38:17
  much for doing this. I'll send you.
• 1:38:18
  I'll bring, I'll bring Jack and then maybe a guest, special
• 1:38:21
  guest. I'm excited, dude.
• 1:38:24
  OK, we'll talk man. Bye everyone.