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Male Wellness Reimagined: Testosterone Therapy, Peptides, and Building Community in Reno · Healthy Happy Wise Wealthy

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Welcome to Healthy, Happy, Wise, Wealthy, the podcast where we take
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people who have lived through some fire and now want to take that light
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and help guide others. I am your host, Mary Meyer. I'm so glad
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you're here. I want you to step away from today feeling like
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you know some things about how to heal, about how
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to move forward, about how to create the life that you want
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to live. Let's get started.
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Welcome back, everyone. We are at game Day Men's Health in South
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Reno with Michael Hataway, the owner. And this is
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actually our very first in person
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podcast. So thank you for being kind of the
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dummy to get us rolling. Yay me.
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Of course. I'm kidding. So I know Michael pretty well. We are in a
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networking group. The very first episode that we did was with Jaclyn. She was
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on that site, the Missing link network, which is how I know Michael.
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So you have been an entrepreneur for pretty
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much your whole career? Yeah, yeah, most of my
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life, actually. I mean, I've had intermittent jobs here and there.
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I grew up, you know, working a lot of blue collar stuff. But
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yeah, my introduction into entrepreneurship was kind of
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by accident. I wanted a Nintendo. I was 10.
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The Nintendo had come out, I wanted one. And
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we didn't have the money for that back then. So my mom was like, hey,
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well, if you make the money for half of it,
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I'll pay for the other half. And I was just like, well,
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you know, in my head I'm like, how do I make money? I'm 10, you
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know. So she, her idea was to drive me around
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to neighbors and her friends houses to do yard work, mow
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lawns, rake leaves, stuff like that. So
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that was kind of my introduction. I raised half the money.
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And didn't tell her. You didn't tell her? Didn't tell her.
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Because in my head As a 10 year old, I was like,
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well, if she pays for half of it, then she gets to tell me
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when I can and can't play it. So I never told
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her that I raised half the money and I just kept doing yard work until
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I raised all the money to buy it myself. And
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that's also when I discovered taxes,
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you know, So I didn't, I didn't have all the money at 10 because it
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was $99 at the time. And then
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plus tax. So I had $100, I'm gonna buy it. And then there
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was like 13 or $14 worth of tax that my mom had to
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pay for, but it was too late because it was in my hands, you know,
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and I was like just pay for the taxes. And she still got to tell
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me when I. When you could play it, could play. It and when I couldn't
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play it. She probably could have told you anyway, even if you had bought the
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whole thing. Yeah. But in my 10 year old mind, you know that in retrospect
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now, mind, yeah. I was going to have control. But
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that's. But that's where entrepreneurship started. That's so cool. Go mom. Yeah,
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go mom. Exactly. Yeah. She's taught me all about checking account, all that kind
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of stuff. She kind of educated me on money. So I love that a little
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bit. So then like right away you started
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off helping businesses grow their sales, is that.
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Well, after that, I mean, I did some,
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some other like landscaping stuff and whatnot. I owned a little small
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business in college, a buddy of mine, and I did. Helped pay
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for school, kind of helped get me through college,
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barely. And then after that I went into
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consulting. It was through a small firm up in Egan,
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Minnesota. And we were, it was a mixture. I don't know if
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we weren't employees. We were contracted in, that's how we were
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paid was $10.99. So we all, each of us, it
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was a very, very small group of us, each of us kind of had our
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own company, I guess, and we did consulting all
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across the US with health clubs. And then I
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got into, you know, after years of doing that, I got into the ownership side
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of health clubs and then I grew that to
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trying to remember, I don't know, 25ish health clubs
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that I owned over a span of about maybe 15 years or
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so. That's a lot. Yeah. And also got into a nutrition
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franchise, did some other consulting stuff on the side.
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And let me think. Then Covid
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hit, kind of put a stop to everything. And I did some
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consulting after Covid and then got into
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this, not too long afterwards, found this actually just kind of fell in my
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lap. An old connection from the fitness industry. Okay. Kind of
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gave me a call and was like, hey, what are you doing these days? It's
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like just some like consulting. What's going on? And he told me about this.
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Absolutely loved it. It was kind of the next evolutionary step for me
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because I was in health and wellness, so to speak, on the fitness side of
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things. Which is a much simpler operation, by the way,
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than a clinic, because this is, than a clinic, because this is medical. So this
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is a whole other animal. But went
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from, yeah, from that to this, which was like,
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in my head, it was like, that's the next Step. You know, I'm taking a
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step up. I'm getting into the medical side of health and wellness,
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and, yeah, it's been amazing since. I love it. Well, that fits you. The health
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and wellness, because you are always out doing
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snowboarding and biking and trout fishing and camping
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and hiking and backpacking. And backpacking and triathlons and.
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Yeah, I just. I do it all. Very, very active person. I always have
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been. I'm sure there have been some
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lazy parts of my life where I wasn't quite as active, but,
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you know, I mean, in one way or another, since I was a kid, I've
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been extremely active. Started out in sports. I've been a dedicated
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gym worker outer guy since I was. Is that
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the technical. Yeah, that is. That's the medical term. That's the medical term.
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Gym worker outer guy. Yeah, that's the medical term. So I learned that when I
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got into this. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So
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commercial. That's a great gym worker outer guy. Yep. I'm gonna use that
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in my next one. Thank you. Good. Excellent. Excellent. So,
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yeah, I've been active my entire life, so, yeah. This kind of
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also fits into
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the longevity of staying active throughout your
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life. I mean, keeping your hormone levels in check
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and optimize helps you feel younger. Helps you
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in just many ways as you continue to
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age, you know, in years. Lapse
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around the sun. Lapse around the sun. But this
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helps keep you. Keep you young. It's kind of a.
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Kind of a fountain of youth, so to speak, a little bit.
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So I want to hear all about it, but I have one more question on
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entrepreneurship. Yes. So you have bought into
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franchises? Yep, Yep. I've always. I mean, most of
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what I've done has been in franchises. I mean, when I was younger, before I
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got into franchising, I did other stuff that was just, you know, my own
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or my friend of mine and, you know, whatever I was doing before. But
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yeah, franchises I've liked because it's. That's plug and play,
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you know, I mean, they've got everything set up, so it's less effort
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from start. You know, idea, start,
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build, open, and then go through a bunch of trial and
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error after you open because you thought you had some things figured
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out or you thought you had the right systems in place. Whereas a franchise typically
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has put in the legwork because they have to have proof of
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concept before they open. Right. Or not before
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they open, before they franchise, they have to have proof of concept. So they go
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through a lot of. A majority of the trial and error. There's always going to
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be some as the franchise grows and as things continue to move forward,
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there's always going to be some trial and error. But they put in a lot
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of the time, a lot of the effort to get past a lot of that
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to have a system for you that's all packaged up in a box. You open
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it up, you plug it in and you play. So plug and play nice
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and they save you a lot of time, energy
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and money. Of course, there's always
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an argument to that. People will say, yeah, but you're paying franchise
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fees. Well, yeah, but I also gained back a lot
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of time that I didn't have to spend putting this concept together
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that to me I can always make more money. I can't make more time.
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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me to do it like that for
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sure. So we are here, if you're watching on YouTube, we're here at game
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day Men's health. And you can see that it is
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a man cave environment. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah. That was the, a big part of the
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concept. The guy that created it wanted it to feel
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less like a medical clinic and more of like
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kind of like a man cave or guys hangout spot. So
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he, you know, they, they worked with a crew I think
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too. I don't know the details of the back end of the story
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but you know, they, they built it to be more comfortable,
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more inviting for men and less intimidating. Like when
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you walk into a medical, nobody likes going to the doctor. People don't want to
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go into the dentist. They don't want to go to the doctor, they don't go
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anywhere that's clinic y feel. And you walk in and
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there's scrubs and everything. We still wear scrubs, but they're a little more
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fashion oriented to the decor of the place.
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And so yeah, I just kind of take that clinical look
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and clinical feel out of it. Make it more comfortable. Yeah. And men, I
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don't think in general, men probably are less apt to go to the doctor than
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women. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Men,
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generally speaking, men are very much,
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very much less health
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aware. They'll go to the gym and they'll work out,
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but that is not health.
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That is a part of health. But they don't do regular
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checkups. They don't want to do labs, they don't do blood work. They don't want
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to go get their hormone levels checked. Although now that the information
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is out there on this and you know, it's all over the place now. So
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People, it's. It's front of mind. People hear TRT all the time.
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You can Google or do any search engine. Not promoting
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Google. You can do any search
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engine and you know, and type in symptoms. Like if you're. As you're aging
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and if guys have any type of symptoms,
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whatever it may be, and they can type it in and something will tie it,
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hey, maybe it's low testosterone. So low t trt,
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you know, which is just testosterone replacement therapy. Those terms are very
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common and they're becoming even more common. So the knowledge is
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out there. You can't really get around it just by
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even typing in your symptoms. Hey, this isn't happening. I can't lose
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this body fat. I can't build this lean muscle. You like
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my typing here? I do. I really like your typing. I feel like it's a
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very good imagery of typing. I can't figure out.
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I like it a lot. So testosterone replacement therapy is a big
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cornerstone of what you do here. Yes.
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Yeah. So we specialize in two things.
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Testosterone replacement therapy and then permanent solution ED
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treatments for men. Now we can
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prescribe the pills, you know, that you take every day or that you take when
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you want to perform. But that's just an ongoing,
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temporary solution that over time, as you age, may not work
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as well because it becomes more of a blood flow. Can become more of
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a blood flow issue. So we have more permanent solutions for that.
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So those are the two things we specialize in. But we also have
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a pretty large peptide menu. If you don't know
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what peptides are. Yes, explain peptides. I just got that question earlier
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today. So peptides are.
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So there's an amino acid, which is the single unit in
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a protein chain. A protein chain is 50amino acids or
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longer. So there's a gap between a single amino
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acid and a 50 chain protein. And that's where
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peptides fall in. They're all in here. So they're shorter chain
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protein molecules or proteins that have kind of
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more specific functions in the body. So if you. Depending on what
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your goals are, we probably have a peptide for that.
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So there's peptides for all kinds of things, from cognitive to
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building muscle to building large muscle, lean muscle, burning body fat,
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sexual performance, mood enhancement. I mean, there's
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peptides for all kinds of stuff. Wow. This is not really an
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area that I had heard a lot about until I met you. So to
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me it was new. But you're like, no, everybody knows about this except for Mary.
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Everybody knows about this. Everybody knows about this except For Mary. So this is not
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the first time I've heard that. Yeah. Erika in fact, tells me all
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the time that I am so far down the line of knowledge of how much
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I've learned. No, I'm just kidding.
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Yeah. So peptides. And so sometimes women come in for
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peptides too. Like they can come in. Yep. Yes.
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Actually, yeah, we have female clients come in for peptides. We also do the
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GLP1s, which are kind of like the weight loss drugs like
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Semaglutide, Tirzepatide, Retatrutide.
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The trade names are like Ozempic and Manjaro. And
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I think one of them is called Wegovy or something like that. I don't remember
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the trade names all that well, but we also do those. So we have
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female clients that come in for GLP1s.
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We're offering hair restoration soon.
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I haven't started putting that out there yet because I wanted to be patient zero,
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you know, see what the results were. Patient zero on hair. Patient zero on
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hair restoration. I'd like to keep the hair.
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Keeping hair is a nice thing. Yeah, I think so. If it's possible. If it's
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possible, yeah. So so far it's working. I have a lot of,
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like, if I were to just let the little short ones come in, I would
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have like a Mohawk. Like, there's a lot of new growth all through here. Like
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they're all about an inch to an inch and a half long. What are
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you doing? What is it with the hair loss or hair growth? It's PRP
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injections, platelet rich plasma. So we do a blood draw, we spin it
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down. We have centrifuges in the lab. We spin it down, we can
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inject it into the scalp. We can also use copper peptide
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mixture with that. A copper peptide mixture with it?
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Yeah, to help with
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hair regrowth as well. So there's other peptides that can be
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used and we also have access to like finasteride,
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minoxidil and all the other. Keep
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your hair chemicals or whatever. Chemicals.
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Medications. Medications, yeah. And neither
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one of us are medical people. But you know
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this because you own the place and you've learned all the
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stuff. Well, the irony is I actually went to university for
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medical. I started out in medical school and then wound up
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in the world of business and marketing and promotions and entrepreneurship,
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which is the. I majored in everything. That's the one thing I didn't major in.
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And that's what I wound up doing. And so it's just interesting that things have
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come back full circle to where I'm now back into something medical, which is
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what I originally started out wanting to do. Yeah. Yeah. That's
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awesome. Yeah. So having guys come here because this
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isn't also, you don't take insurance. So there's reasons for
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that, lots of reasons for that. Insurance is a nightmare to deal with, first
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and foremost. And secondly, they deny,
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like testosterone replacement therapy through an insurance company is extremely difficult.
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I mean, I'm sure there's people that have figured out the
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loopholes and how to get around that. But you're still dealing with
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insurance companies that you know will try to skimp on paying
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you or lower the rates or change the rates or you know that
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they're going to pay you. So
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we just stay away from it. I mean, everything
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that I know about insurance, especially speaking to a lot of the guys that have
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come in that have tried to go through their insurance, they've all been denied. I
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mean, that's why they come to us. They're like, well, you know, I tried doing
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this to my insurance and they just keep denying me because they will.
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I'm sure that's frustrating too. Like you're trying to take care of it and then
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it's trying to. Yeah, trying to do something. And maybe it's
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not preemptive because you can't really prescribe testosterone until your levels are
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low, but you're trying to recoup and you
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know, fix an issue that you're having
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hormonally. And your insurance company's like, yeah, you're fine, you're not getting
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that. So they will continue to
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get you to do blood work once a month for just months
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on end and then just continue to deny you because you're not below
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a certain number that they say is
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treatable. And that number is usually extremely low.
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And sometimes they'll still deny you based on what your age is. I mean, so
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insurance company, they're just a nightmare to work with on both ends, like
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on the back end for us and for the patient. So
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we're more around convenience. You come in, you
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know, you get a quick blood draw, we take your samples, we spin
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them down in the in house lab. While your samples
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are being spun down, you start your medical chart with a provider in the back
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office. The door shuts, very private conversation.
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One of the M.A.s will call in the numbers and as long as everything
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looks good, we can prescribe on the spot and give you your first injection before
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you leave. So in about a 45 minute window of
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time, you have come in, done Blood work, gotten your labs and gotten
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your first dose of testosterone, and you're on your way to feeling better.
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And testosterone or hormonal optimization
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with insurance, it can take months and
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sometimes up to two years of them just consistently
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fighting and trying to deny you. And a
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majority of the time, they will not cover you. Yeah,
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that would be very frustrating, and I'm sure it is. Most men
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would find it very helpful just to just get it done. And it's something checked
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off your list and you're not. Yeah, it's not being dragged up forever and ever
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and ever, so. Well, it goes back to my comment earlier. You can.
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You can make more money. You can't really make more time. So,
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you know, getting in and getting things done quickly and
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efficiently, you know, in 45 minutes, as
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opposed to nine months, a year, a year and a half, whatever your
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insurance company. And that's given that they evade, eventually approve
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you. Yeah, it's. It's in. At
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least in my head, it's worth it to skimp out on the
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insurance. Come in, get it done, get going. Yeah,
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well, and this, you know, the whole issue of this isn't exactly family friendly in
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case anyone wants to pop off real fast, but, you
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know, it's like, you know, men's plumbing. Right. So it's. It's a. It's a.
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It's this thing that guys probably aren't going to want to talk about
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to anyone, you know, so to have a place that they can come and I'm
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sure there's some shame around it or they don't feel comfortable with it or they
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want to keep it private or whatever that might be.
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Yeah, that's a big part of why this is a
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men's health clinic. And, you
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know. Yeah, there's definitely a lot of men that want to keep it private. They
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don't. They're not
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accustomed to talking about these things or they're just shy about it or whatever. And
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then you have the other guys that will just blast everybody with everything, which is
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awesome, you know, because it's just fun to talk to those guys. But.
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Yeah, so this does kind of. You're
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not a man walking into a clinic with whatever issue you may have,
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surrounded by women and kids and whoever else
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is in there. And you're in there for what you consider to be a very
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private matter. If anything, you'll come in. There's other guys here.
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And you know what? They probably are in here. They could be in here for
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the same issue as you. So this does
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give it a more Comfortable
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atmosphere for men, especially men, you know, that want
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to remain very private about what's going on.
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And I think it probably takes away some of the shame, too. Let's just talk
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about it, you know, like, this is a thing that happens. So it's like, you
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know, it's not a comfortable thing to talk about. Women have things that we don't
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want to talk about either, that we're going through. So I'm assuming you're talking about
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E.D. Yeah. Yeah. So, yes, most
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men do not want to talk about that, because, let's face it, that's where.
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That's what most men, I think a majority of men attach their.
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Their manhood to is, you know, not having that issue.
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So when that starts to go away or when that issue starts to happen, there
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is a loss of sense of self, and there is a shame
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to it, and there is an embarrassment, and there I don't want to
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talk about, like, how can I? And so there's, you know, searching online to do
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things privately and everything. And that makes a lot of sense.
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But this, our Game Day here,
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does do exactly that. It keeps things very private. It's not going to be
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a crowded office, and even if it is, you know, we have plenty of
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chairs you can sit in as you're waiting. You're not forced to have a
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conversation out in the open about what's going on. You go into a
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back room, the door is shut. In a sound block, no one can hear what's
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going on. You're talking with a medical professional. We deal with this stuff on a
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daily basis, so there's no shame talking to any of us.
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So, yeah, it's. It's interesting because I'll have long conversations
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on the phone with guys when they call in about all of this, and even
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on the phone, they're a little timid to kind of talk about these things. They
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open up as the conversation goes on, and they're like, all right,
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yeah, I'm ready. I'm coming in on, you know, whatever day it may be. I'm
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coming in Tuesday at 12. And then they just never show up
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because there's such a shame and embarrassment around it. And it's like,
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it is so much more common of an issue
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than they realize. Like, there are so many men that
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have the same situation that may be even worse than your situation.
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And statistically speaking, across, you know, the span of men,
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it's. It's not that uncommon. Yeah, well, I think men in
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general, too, they don't want to necessarily talk about anything. Yeah. You
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know, that's a serious matter. So to have a place where they can come and
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talk about something that's, you know, also, this isn't always
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serious. There's a lot of jokes that can be made, and we make. I'm just
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being. Now I'm really being silly, but go for it. You know, Michael and I
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will crack jokes about it, and he will, when he talks about it, some crack
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jokes about it, because, you know, we can crack jokes, but at the same
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time, if you're dealing with it, it's not funny. So crack jokes
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to yourself and lighten up a little bit. And it's just
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something that is part of humanity that people go through, men
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go through. It's interesting from a marketing perspective, too,
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with. Right. Because I've helped you market, so I know that part of it
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well. Because you like, you know, our idea and talking
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with my marketing team, our idea was like, hey, you know, maybe if we use
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some humor and kind of lighten the mood surrounding it, people will feel
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more comfortable. And. Yeah, no, I just. It's. I don't know.
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There's. There's probably some men that. That works with,
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and there's other men that. That doesn't work with, and there's some men that are
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like, I don't know about this, and maybe I should. So it's just, you know,
23:44
because everybody's different. There's no one size fits all. And that's another reason we're
23:48
concierge medicine, is we
23:51
cater treatment to the individual based on what their labs are.
23:55
We check labs frequently throughout. Especially through your first year. We want to
23:59
make sure everything is looking good. Nothing's being negatively affected, so.
24:04
And everything is a case by case basis. Like what I started
24:07
t this year. I'm 47, about to
24:11
be 48 in a month. It's okay. You're gonna get over it. Yeah.
24:15
You'll get through it. Yep, yep, I'll be fine. But I
24:19
started T this year because my levels were low enough
24:22
to treat. So I was like, all right, let's do this. And
24:26
I am on a completely different dosing regimen than most
24:30
of our guys because of how my body
24:35
metabolizes or reacts to the testosterone. So I'm on
24:38
a different dose. So everybody can be a little different. It's not a one
24:42
size fits all. And that's part of the concierge. You know, get ahold of us
24:46
when you. When you need. We pay close attention. We adjust things,
24:49
titrate up or down your dosing to make sure that your body is
24:53
running optimally on whatever dose
24:57
that does that for you. And a lot of this is for energy. It's just
25:00
like stamina energy, vitality, that kind of thing. Yeah, stamina,
25:03
energy. I mean, not necessarily E.D., so just, you know, just to
25:07
kind of have the levels correct and then you're going to feel. Although it can
25:10
enhance performance there regardless. I mean, even if
25:14
you're someone that doesn't think you have E,D,, maybe just over time,
25:18
you just don't notice the difference. And then you get on testosterone, you're
25:22
like, oh, yeah, I forgot that it performs that well.
25:26
So there's that. But yeah, I mean, it's energy. It's
25:29
maintaining lean muscle, building lean muscle.
25:33
Not like bodybuilding type.
25:37
We don't overdose people on testosterone.
25:41
Our goal is optimization. We're not looking to
25:45
overdose people because I've had quite a few
25:48
guys ask, well, am I going to get angry? Am I going to roid
25:52
rage? And I'm like, no, that's not what we're doing here. Let's do Hulk stuff.
25:56
Yeah, that's like. I'm like, that is not what we do. We do
25:59
not overdose testosterone. Wouldn't that be a fun
26:03
movie idea, is to just have Hulk just burst out of Game
26:07
Day? I don't know. I don't know how
26:10
positive of a message that would be. Come to our clinic,
26:14
you'll get big and dumb, you know? Yeah, so. So it's opposite of that.
26:18
Yeah. These are just jokes, right?
26:21
Yeah, so I. Yeah, so I've had that
26:25
conversation with quite a few men about, like, no, that's not what we
26:29
do. What you may notice is your mood may improve. Like,
26:33
you'll just feel better because anxiety and depression are two big
26:36
symptoms that can happen with low testosterone moodiness. You know, as
26:40
you're going through manopause, you can be very
26:44
moody. So you're just moods all over the place. You're angry and
26:47
cranky and grumpy and this can actually elevate your
26:51
mood and things don't bother you as much. You're just like, yeah, I'm good.
26:56
So you're in a better mood, your energy levels up.
26:59
And tell us about manopause. Manopause? Yeah.
27:04
You basically all, it's only one men. Instead of
27:07
menopause, which is multiple, not men. Yes, multiple, not men, which
27:11
is. I don't know why it's not called women. Women. Women-apause yeah, and
27:15
then just men-apause for the men, but apparently. I don't know,
27:19
someone. No one asked us. Someone in the naming,
27:22
even asked her opinion, even a little bit, which is their fault. Yeah,
27:26
yeah, that's. That's true. And it's not my fault, so. Not your fault. So manopause.
27:30
Manopause is basically the same thing.
27:34
Okay. I am not going to equate the two. I'm not going to say that
27:38
they're the same thing. At their core level, they
27:42
are, because you're going through hormonal changes. But women,
27:46
I think, have a much tougher time with menopause. But men
27:50
do go through something similar. It's like menopause light kind of,
27:53
but you're still going through mood changes, your weight gain and
27:57
muscle loss, and, you know, sexual function
28:01
can diminish. There's a lot of things that can happen as
28:04
you're going through that. I mean, you basically go through two
28:08
puberties in your lifetime. The first is when you're a teenager and your
28:11
hormone levels are coming in and spiking. And the
28:15
second one is later in life as they're a little more gradually
28:19
diminishing. So you're. And you'll go through a phase where it affects you
28:22
more. Like a period during that time where it affects you a little more and
28:26
you feel it more. That's generally when men start to come in, when they really
28:30
start to feel it and they don't understand what's happening. They're like, I don't know
28:33
what's going on. I just don't feel like myself. I have no energy. I don't
28:36
enjoy the things I used to enjoy. I don't have the motivation to go, you
28:40
know, cycling or mountain bike or whatever it is they like to do. I don't
28:43
have to go play Frisbee, golf, whatever your sport is. I don't have the
28:46
motivation to go out. And when I do, I don't really enjoy it as much
28:49
as I used to. So, you know, a lack of life
28:53
fulfillment or life enjoyment can be a big thing that brings people in.
28:57
Sexual dysfunction can bring people in. You know, the
29:00
moodiness. Some guys, wives bring them in, like,
29:04
fix him. You know. Yeah, because they're
29:08
grumpy and they're moody and they don't realize it. So. So some guys.
29:12
Wives. Or wives bring them in because they're like, they're.
29:15
Well, because grizzly bears right now. Yeah, because they're. Yeah, they're grumpy and they're
29:19
big. You know, they're big angry bears. And so their wives will.
29:23
We've had guys that. Their wives bring them in, come with them,
29:27
because they're like, yeah, something's up with him. Fix him. Or I've had
29:31
the wives call in because I take, you know, quite a lot of the calls
29:34
on certain days, and I've spoken with a lot of the wives, and they're like,
29:38
I want my husband to come see you guys. I'm like, yeah, let's schedule it
29:40
up. Does he know that you're scheduling it? So I
29:44
feel like that's such a thing with wives scheduling for their husbands. Yeah, that's a
29:47
thing. Yeah, that's a real thing. Yeah. Yeah. So,
29:51
yeah, there's multiple reasons that. That men come in.
29:55
They may notice the changes themselves, do a little googling or
29:59
binging or whatever. Other chatgpting and figure out that it's
30:02
low testosterone. And so they come
30:06
in on their own or it could be the wives. So. Yeah. And
30:10
sometimes you guys do vitamin therapies also? We do. We do have
30:14
vitamin therapies. The most popular ones. Kind of B12.
30:17
Men aren't really all that into vitamins that I've discovered, or
30:21
maybe we're just not. Maybe we're just not pushing them enough. But,
30:25
yeah, we have tons of vitamins and vitamin therapies
30:28
we can do. But B12 seems to be the most requested from
30:32
men. I feel like that's the most Known. If your B12
30:36
gets up, then you have more energy and that kind of thing. That's a good
30:40
mood enhancer. Energy. Yeah. And it also helps with
30:43
immune system. Awesome. As we're coming into the fall and flu season.
30:47
Guys, guys, come on. Get your B12. Get your
30:51
B12s in here. That's awesome. Well, thanks for joining
30:55
us today, and I hope that you do more
30:58
active group stuff. This might be a good time
31:02
to ask the audience, do you think Michael should
31:06
lead some bicycling, mountain
31:10
cycling? Bicycling, Bicycling, mountain cycling.
31:13
I don't. What is it? What do you call it? I want to put
31:17
together some activity groups for Game
31:21
Day Men's Health. What a great idea. One of them will be for
31:24
cycling, road biking. One of them gravel biking. We can do gravel
31:28
biking. My personal favorite, mountain biking. I'm going to put together a mountain biking
31:31
riding group, a running group, a snowboarding group, a
31:35
skiing group, a hiking group, backpack. Just any.
31:39
Because I do all of these things. I'm like, well, there's. I know there's. This
31:42
is an outdoor enthusiast area. So
31:46
I want to put together these groups for men that are coming in and,
31:50
you know, not only are they getting their testosterone levels up, but now they'll
31:54
have a group to relate to. They can hang out with guys that are interested
31:57
in the same things they're interested in. As they're feeling better and as they're becoming
32:01
more active again. They can do their favorite
32:04
activities with guys that are like minded.
32:08
So what's the difference between gravel cycling and mountain
32:12
or road? Like, I've never heard. I've heard mountain
32:17
and road. So road cycling. Everybody knows road cycling. I
32:21
mean, Tour de France, Lance Armstrong, I'm dating myself
32:24
here. I don't even know who's popular right now in
32:28
road cycling. I don't know either. Gravel biking is
32:33
in between mountain biking and road
32:36
biking. So you can ride on the road, but
32:40
you can also go off road. But you probably don't want
32:44
to go as rugged a terrain as you can do
32:47
on a mountain bike because most gravel bikes are like a road bike
32:51
with just bigger, fatter, knobbier tires, a little bit more sturdy of a frame.
32:55
Okay, but they look like a road bike, but they have
32:58
thicker tires. Wider, thicker, wider
33:02
tires, and they'll be a little knobby for, you know, off piste. That's
33:06
snowboarding or skiing off the road. Okay.
33:10
Whereas a mountain bike, you'll have, you know, a hard tail with
33:13
front forks, or you'll have full suspension. And those are
33:17
really sturdy frames. And they have big, you
33:21
know, much larger tires. Knobby. You can get 2.5s on there and,
33:25
you know, fly down, like go climb a mountain and then fly down the most
33:29
rugged. You know, you can do big jumps because you have full
33:32
suspension. So you'll absorb. And mountain biking is my
33:36
favorite. I mean, I love it all. But I will be honest, gravel
33:40
biking is my least favorite because it just beats the hell out of you
33:43
when you get off road because you don't have any suspension.
33:48
It's still fun, though. But if I were personally to rank them.
33:51
Mountain biking, road biking, gravel biking. All right, good.
33:56
Thanks for sharing that because I did not know, but they all sound fun.
33:59
Mary. Probably nothing I'll do, but, you know, everyone knows that. Everyone
34:03
knows that. Again, I'm the last on the. On the food chain.
34:06
Yeah. So I think we should ask the listeners
34:10
to rank which ones they would enjoy most if they would
34:13
enjoy road biking, mountain biking, skiing,
34:16
snowboarding, hiking, hiking, running, backpacking. Running,
34:20
backpacking. If you did all of the groups and you were running all these
34:23
groups, you can't run them all. But which, which would be your favorite to start
34:27
with? Where should we start? When I say we, I mean
34:31
Michael, because I'm not going to have anything to do with all of this. Well,
34:33
I mean, we could start with probably cycle,
34:37
just regular cycling, road riding, just
34:41
because that's the easiest
34:44
accessible. Okay. So we, you know, I could just say,
34:48
hey, everybody, meet up at the clinic at 5pm or
34:51
whatever and bring your bike. Yeah. We
34:55
all hop on and we, you know, go, go out and go climb McCarran for
34:59
the warm up or whatever level,
35:03
you know, riding group it is. Go, you know, ride around. But that would
35:06
probably be the easiest to start up. Mountain biking is more destination,
35:10
you know, meet me at the trailhead of whatever in Mount Rose wilderness or
35:14
over in, you know, south or wherever it may be. So road bike
35:18
that either that or running. Those two would be the easiest
35:22
to start up because they're the simplest. I love this
35:25
especially for men because women I think are probably a little bit better at getting
35:29
together and, and organizing and. Well, just getting together.
35:32
Yeah. And chatting and then we talk about all the stuff we don't want,
35:36
we don't like. Yeah. But men are not very good at that and that's probably
35:39
would be very therapeutic for you all. Yeah. You feel good. You come to Game
35:43
Day,, you feel good, then you go out, you do your, your cycle group and
35:46
then you have, you have guys and then you can chat about stuff.
35:50
Yeah. Whatever that stuff is that they're chatting. I will not
35:53
serve anyone beer out of the clinic when we're done. I won't do
35:57
that. Okay. Absolutely not. We wouldn't. You would not do
36:01
that. That would not be a thing you do. No.
36:05
Okay. Well, thank you. Appreciate you doing this. Appreciate you doing it
36:09
live in person too. So thank you. Not live.
36:13
We're not live. Thank you for doing this. I guess live and in person. To
36:16
me I just put the words together and they. It doesn't. It means nothing to
36:19
get in person. Yeah. All right. Michael
36:23
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